>Can't reach upper buttons on vending machines
>Chairs conveniently available near her
Does she really have an IQ of 180?
A chair is for sitting, not putting your filthy feet on.
But I do think it is actually a matter of pride to her.
What if someone came while when was on the chair? No, Suzu would be too ashamed if that happened. She's too proud.
>locked in a room with no doors but a window just slightly out of reach
>won't use chair to reach the window because chairs are for sitting, not stepping on.
Means to an end, faggot.
If you give up just because of some moronic-idealistic thinking like that you don't deserve to have an IQ of 180.
>they think high IQ has anything to do with the actual cleverness
Sasuga /a/. Even /v/ is not as retarded.
This is exactly the sort of thing IQ tests are supposed to measure.
>vehicle player is in explodes for no fucking reason
>flip their shit
>calls game shitty
Go back to /v/, please.
>Does she really have an IQ of 180?
If I recall there's a quote about Death Note or Hyouka or something. Show about geniuses, written by idiots. Any intelligent character is doomed to be unconvincing unless the author is intelligent.
That quote is stupid, and was clearly written by someone stupid.
As a writer, you have two things your characters don't have: time and knowledge of the whole situation. Using those two things, you can create a believable intelligent character. You just need to avoid making them deduce things without any real basis (like they did in Death Note). Actually, this "trick" is what the whole mystery genre is based on.
I thought mystery was about letting the audience pat themselves on the back for sorting things out before the protagonist.
That should come naturally, unless they hide information from the reader while having the characters know about it.
Which is just shit writing.
On the opposite end, you have shit where the author flat out lies to the reader about events, which also prevents the reader from being able to figure it out.
Looking at you, Rewrite lucia route, which is also shit writing.
Intelligence and common sense do not always go hand in hand.
There are really only a few shows where the geniuses actually feel like geniuses. Of course, speaking mainly not about the mystery genre, but about SoL/romance/whatever else.
This is mainly not because the authors are too stupid, but because the authors have never had any contact with a real genius, so they couldn't possibly write one.
Suzu is okay, though.
Mystery is a competition between the author and the reader. The author tries to outsmart the readers with a trick. But it's a trick the detective is able to solve. The author needs time to design the trick, what clues are left behind, how the detective finds them, and how to tie them together. Unlike the detective, the author has all the time he needs to think about that, and already knows the answer, so you can say that the detective is smarter than the author. Good mystery novels are those that manage to trick the reader into a false culprit (or failing to find a culprit altogether), but don't rely on shitty tricks like lies, hidden information, and the like (in other words, they follow Knox's decalogue)
Actually I think the problem is that they rely on clichés. Like, reciting pi or solving huge equations just to prove how smart they are, but then they are stupid for anything else.
Goddamn, I am still angry how utterly did Hyouka fail that.
What is this?
The biggest cliche of them all being 100s on every test. But that's not the whole thing. A lot of people simply fail to write smart characters, not to speak about geniuses.
Because Oreki doesn't use reason and proofs, but imagination and probabilities. He explains it quite well with the counterfeit bill case. He just jumps to conclusions, throws away the ones less likely, and chooses the one that would satisfy Chitanda the most. Then, he's lucky. I wouldn't say there's a real competition there, because there's almost no evidence to work with in the first place. Unlike a detective that works with reason, I would say Oreki works with intuition.
I wish I was a tiny asian girl ;_;
Watching Hyouka for the mysteries was a mistake and I quickly learned to ignore them to concentrate on the rest. But I'm still mad at the movie arc. That was plainly insulting.
I am mainly angry at the movie arc. That managed to do every wrong thing you could do in a mystery novel.
The rest was bullshitting Chitanda, yeah; though I would have enjoyed seeing some of said bullshitting to actually prove wrong.
You know, there finally comes a moment where the Cromartie "he's smarter than us" image is incredibly relevant, but I didn't save it at the time.
I am deeply regretful.
Watching Hyouka for anything else was kind of pointless. Even the animation; I would have enjoyed it more if early Shaft adapted it. At least so I would have liked my superflat characters, each simply serving a set purpose.
Hyouka is clearly a character-driven show. The mysteries were a pretext to develop the characters and it shows.
In another scene where she was running home late for a TV show she wanted to watch, she considered taking a shortcut through a small alleyway, then decided against it upon realizing her size was the only reason she fit in the alley in the first place.
It's the same thing with this. Just a matter of pride.
Everybody is speaking of that development, but I saw next to none. Chitanda stayed the same annoying self, the secondary couple did... well, nothing worth noting, and Oreki had some development, but it amounted only to "getting closer to Chitanda" in the end. I guess I am just spoiled by actual good stories.
Oh, whatever, I don't feel like this conversation right now. Here, have a Suzu.
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