Why does every single anime classroom look the fucking same? Not every classroom in Japan can have a wall dominated by large windows and the windows always being on the right side, right?
Dont forget the main protagonist always sits next to the window, typically all the way in the back.
I'm not japanese nor I did study in Japan, but my school had classes like that.
Because that's how it is.
>Not every classroom in Japan can have a wall dominated by large windows and the windows always being on the right side, right?
What's wrong with that? I don't see any reason why not.
Except for some elite private schools with unique buildings designed specifically for them.
Every single classroom I've ever been was like that.
you have 1 minute to find me a scene that shows an anime classroom that DOESNT have windows on the right side.
what kind of fucking hick towns did you guys grow up in? most classroms I've been in had no windows at all
It just means they've built their school buildings one classroom+corridor wide.
this is good
it's called efficient design. having a classroom set up like that allows for more natural light through out the day which saves on electricity and helps foster a much more enjoyable learning environment.
>had no windows at all
What kind of fucking hick towns WERE YOU IN?
That is not a classroom, that sounds like a concentration camp
Not everyone spent their childhood in a correctional facility.
I think you might have mistaken your prison for a classroom anon.
but what if the school was on the other side of the road? wouldn't the windows be on the LEFT? or is it like a mirror where left = right?
>being a nigger in the maximum security nigger daycare system
>american public education
>not glorified youth correctional facilities
because you've never seen a japanese school. most of them are in a "U" shape and actually do look sort of like that.
Now to think about it, I can remember a classroom where the windows were on the left side. Still the ratio is around 30 to 1.
all look pretty similar 2 me
Wait, I have never seen a classroom with the window on the left
but I have seen classes on both sides of the hallway, so I guess the teachers just like the window on the right
>It just means they've built their school buildings one classroom+corridor wide.
Wow you're a bright one.
It never occured to you that there could be another classroom on the other side of the corridor, but facing the opposite way?
It's not only in anime, movies have pretty much the same classroom. Maybe is a common school design.
The fucking concrete classrooms that do nothing but make school feel even more like a prison of knowledge. Almost as bad as the rooms that had the panel of six textbook sized windows, all of them yellowed and cracked. God I hate Ghost schools.
confirmed nips like the sun
With the exception of my middle school, with it having been built decades ago, every school I've ever been in or seen has been designed in almost the same exact way. Not necessarily on the right side, of course, but identical.
Anyways, it wouldn't be hard to always have the window on the right side in every classroom. It's just a question of which side you put the front on.
at least prisons can have windows
It is. The uniforms you see are for public schools. I studied in japan
you clearly dont understand the architectural aspects of using natural light and why those winddows are there.
I see some hotties there, nice.
>only 6 people (if even that) people in that class still lives
There is at least some variety here, as compared to the "typical" anime classroom, which is what OP tried and failed to get at. The reason for which is, of course, laziness and/or lack of creativity.
They are crazy, those Elevens!
why not? As long as you change the direction the desks face depending on what side of the building you are on, it's easily possibly.
Because those are your american and whatever other shitty country classroom. Jap classroom ALL look the same, with like 1% exception.
>most classroms I've been in had no windows at all
what? almost all classrooms i've been in had windows. from primary school to university.
only a few labs were located underground
i would date the class rep or the main love interest
What are you on about? That just looks like another normal japanese classroom.
shaft being shaft, even the classrooms look different
say what you want about their style, or the show, but at least it's fucking visually different
they wouldnt date you
THIS ISN'T LIKE MY ANIMES AT ALL
Uh, okay? Yes? I'm not sure how that nullifies anything I said. When I said "laziness/lack of creativity," I was referring to both anime/manga creators AND the school designers.
Using uniforms is more comfortable, inclusive and efficient than wearing street clothes
It is not that crazy
why is the last desk blocking the door
thats a fire hazard
Well that's rude, how do you know they wouldn't date him?
Well that was easy.
Are those large skylights in the roof providing natural, diffuse indirect lighting to multiple classrooms? Pretty nifty concept.
i see rikka
Every goddamn classroom I've been in had windows, even the labs in the basement had some tiny windows to make the air flow and give some light, I don't know where you went to school but it sounds like a goddamn prison.
Schools aren't supposed to be creative, they're supposed to be efficient.
So basically you want things to look fancy just for the sake of it? What a retard.
In England we didint have desks, just tables.
Aussiefag here, every classroom was like that when I was in highschool. MC seat is highly contested on the first day, it's usually where I claim my seat since the wall is really convenient to lean on and the window provides cool air for the crazy fucking hot weather we have.
I wanna live in the SHAFTverse.
Why fix what ain't broke, if you're an architect for public works?
And if you're creating a work of fiction based in the real world, why would you risk breaking the suspension of disbelief by having some sort of weird classroom design for no good reason other than "being unique"?
Doesn't Hachiman sit on the opposite side of the windows, and in the middle of the row?
tfw highschool is over
>counting SHAFT interior design
I want SHAFT to design my bathroom
>the windows always being on the right side
Isn't that so your right hand wouldn't cast a shadow on what you're writing?
Because you know, no one's left-handed in Japan.
In Yorkshire we didn't have tables, just planks on bricks, and slates to scratch on
>the wall is really convenient to lean on
Are you me ?
>no one's left-handed in Japan.
How is it more comfortable to wear an uniform than your everyday clothes? At the very least is still a hassle.
Japanese people are fucking smart to have picked where the teachers desk is because of that
What bothers me the most is how there's half a metre between EVERY student. There are no deskmates at all!
What are they, soldiers?
Japanese classrooms have 2 doors anyways
And it is not uncommon to have classmates sitting in front of the doors if the class is full
I wasn't giving a single fuck about Nisekoi and you just gave me a reason to watch it.
>no one's left-handed in Japan.
U WOT M80?
You were lucky to have bricks, we used to have to go to school in a field.
No it's because the building is often facing north-west for best lighting.
>missing the joke
I've seen Another few animes that had people blocking the door.
Not to mention that there's two doors for every classroom and often there's a few smaller passages under the walls, don't ask me why. Also
>sliding classroom doors
>everyone falling for the bait
youre gonna watch nisekoi for the interior design?
DECONSTRUCTION OF ANIME
My classes were exactly like that minus the sliding door in middle school here in Canada even Korean students from abroad said it was like that at home. Spring was always the best.
>sit by window nice big wave of air rushing through the windows
A field? You mean with grass?
Man, you guys had it good.
It's because they all use a standard design for the schools. I'm a civil engineer and since all public schools are built by the same government department they all have a standard design that they follow to help cut costs and make things easier
How can the window be on the left when it's always facing outwards from the school when you enter the room. hence it being on the right side.
>having glass supporting the weight of the whole floor
WHAT A BRILLIANT IDEA
There are interior rooms in buildings where windows aren't possible.
Still I can't imagine most classrooms not having windows.
do you need a degree in architecture to work at SHAFT or something
How is it a hassle?
There's a limit of how deep natural light can get through in a building, so much so that sustainable buildings have limits on how wide or far away can a space be because of it. Difuse lighting to illuminate classrooms in a warehouse style building wouldn't work.
They're using the steel frame to do that, or they may have beams hidden in the structure
Actually if you go back a couple of generations, you'll find that many western schools tried to 'cure' left-handedness and forced lefties to use their right hand to write with. Mind you, it's no more than they deserve, being the source of all evil in the world that they are. The word 'sinister' comes from the latin for left-handedness after all, and you can't argue with the Romans.
Pretty much every classroom I've been to had the windows at the right side (i.e. left to the students) and that's completely logical, since most peole are right handed. That way there are no irritating shadows when they have to write stuff.
I TOTALLY WANT TO GET CRUSHED IN A CLASSROOM LIKE THAT
Have you seen how old clothes that you wear a lot are more comfortable than new clothes?
And it is not a hassle, on the contrary you don't have to waste time choosing what to wear and stuff like that
You had school? You lucky bastard.
Uniforms aren't a hassle at all. Wake up, put on uniform, no deciding what to wear involved at all. They're a bit expensive but really having 2 copies of a uniform is cheaper than what you'd spend on street clothes if you wore them to school and you don't have to bother with dress codes or whatever.
I'm thankful that we wear uniforms here.
What, are you mad because he didn't use body parts to convey a sense of distance ?
>and you can't argue with the Romans.
That's mostly because they're all dead.
>LXI year of Her Majesty Elizabeth II's Queendom
>living in a colony
Lazy government officials as usual huh?
and girls in school uniforms are hot
Ooooh, so that's why the schools in my chinese cartoons are often built like this.
Yeah but look at all the aqueducts they left us, eh?
More like cost effective.
I remember teachers made us put desks together with other students in twos bad idea that was seeing as how everyone just sat next to their friends. Haha. Friends.
You don't know how convenient it is. No spending countless hours deciding what to wear. Just put your uniform on and you're good to go.
SHAFT should take up interior design.
>mfw you were raised in an asylum
however you lose a shit ton of heat through the windows, it is efficient in summer but impractical as fuck in Winter months especially in the land of the rising sun where it gets fucking cold
Why the fuck are all their uniforms different.
This is nothing like my animes.
>supporting strict monotony in an institution every living person must spend most of their week in for years, all for the sake of "efficiency"
You're the worst kinds of people. This is why the Japanese end up as soulless slaves.
Are you fucking serious dude. Like, adding a little color, or changing the number of windows, or adding a carpet or tiles with a slight design, or adding some notable classroom projects or banners or whatever on the wall... you take issue with that? I am not asking for Corvettes in the floor, I just wish that classroom designs in both Japan and anime would have even a smidgen of visual variety.
>Well too bad faggot! That's the way things are, so take it in the ass and don't point it out ever or have an opinion on it!
and the roads
Yes they are anon, yes they are.
Holyshit! So faggy hairs like in cartoons are allowed in jap schools.
I thought nips was suppose to be disiplinarians
and the recipe for wolf-nipple chips
Said soulless salves are creating the contents you get.
I rather be a soulless slave than an american retard.
That's how my schools were. When there was a window, it was a fourth the size of anime classroom windows. Hell, the classroom in general was half the size of anime classrooms.
>and girls in school uniforms are hot
Some. But not all of them, anon.
Not all of them at all...
>live in a SHAFT building
>you wear Kubo-brand attire
>your daughter wears authentic rustle
>your backyard landscaper is Ghibli-certified
Wouldn't transfer student and mysterious youth be the same?
and the sanitation
If desks are grouped by two, three or four you'll eventually make some friends or at least acquaintances.
Don't Jap schools make dyeing hair a punishable act?
OP, you should read some basics on story-writing, for starters chekov's gun on tvtropes.
If something has no relevance to the plot, then this object should not be in the movie. Same goes for designs of interiors - if the audience is used to classrooms with windows on the right side, and the classrom design is not relevant to the story, it would unnecessarily take away viewers attention to place windows on the left side.
this is one of the reasons why directors prefer designing everything by stereotypes instead of making a half-documentary or taking something from their memories.
Because of the amount of destruction that occurred during WW2, a lot of Japanese schools were rebuilt on the same model.
So, yes - in Japan, something like 80%+ of the schools look almost exactly the same.
Since when has this become acceptable?
A lot of Asians style their hair I notice it seems to be a common thing.
i'm pretty sure that's from some TV show
Shinning shoes, pressing pants, tying a tie, not to mention that you have to keep it cleaner since is your uniform and you'll wear it everyday, instead of just going to the closet, picking up the cleanest shirt and pants (or shorts), comfy casual shoes and off you go.
>waste time choosing what to wear and stuff like that
I'm not a woman
>you should read some basics on bad story-writing
Fixed? I mean, you can't honestly mean what you're say-
Uniforms are a crutch for plebs who can't into /fa/.
I wore a uniform at my school and never had to press my pants or shine my shoes.
And tying a tie takes like 20 seconds.
I've seen people say this is caduceus symbolism.
If I design an art museum I'll just steal ideas from SHAFT.
You mean have their parents spend hundreds of dollars on designer clothes so you can feel better than everyone else. That's not what school should be about.
le EBIC 4chan meme xD. Look at me, mom, I know all about 4chans culture, they hate tvtropes because it is full of feminists, so now I fit right in! Isnt't it great to have online friends? XDDD
Don't respond to bait, etc.
Holy shit that staircase, you can't even get to the third floor without jumping or going down and walking up again and the other floors aren't even accessible. Most inefficient.
And then get fired the moment you turn in your blueprint.
>No-one's left handed in Japan
>That Bassist whose dick and left fingers she wanted
>they hate tvtropes because it is full of feminists
Ignorant scrub. Look harder.
Why MC always being a huge faggot?
Why the fuck not? Look at all the cool school designs shaft does.
>transfer to new school
>am not assigned a seat next to the window, one row from the back
This is an outrage.
>Illuminated by the light like the chosen one
Yep, that's him.
>implying the third floor isn't a painting on the wall
>because it is full of feminists
I'm not supposed to tell you, but you are a NPC.
20 seconds that you could've spent eating your toast.
But it looks great
It's means you're not the MC anonI'm sorry
>transfer to new school
>am not assigned to the seat next to the love interest
Looking different to someone else isn't expressing your creativity, that requires actually creating something.
Not when you go to school.
Mohawks, shave sides, braids, cornrows, colored hair are not allowed.
basically, if your male you go shaved or crew cut or just a short hair that yours bangs isnt eye level
It isn't China.
Maybe you should have mentioned a credible source instead of a publicly editable website? Or not posted at all if you couldn't do that?
Another was the first Rikka
>not eating your toast on the way to school
I always preferred windows to the right
Because I always sit on the second-to-last seat on the right and having somewhere to look that's not the class is fun
Also in my country we use those right-handed desks that are fucking awful
I've actually been to Japan and inside various schools there, and I can tell you that yes, all classrooms in Japan look the same. Hell, even the college classrooms had the same design. I even found some lame TV show that explained all of the reasons why putting the window on the left side is infinitely superior to any other side. Japan takes this shit seriously.
>transfer to new school
>assigned seat next to the MC
>he starts talking to me
Might as well go gay for dicks.
>transfer student is introduced
>no one yells 'EEEEEEHHHHHHH?'
You guys should google "Michel Foucault" and realize how horrible and oppressive are SHAFT's schools
If you're that pushed for time just put your tie in your pocket and put it on after your done eating your toast on the way to school.
This looks almost exactly like my university.
And the girl on the top left looks like my mom
I thought crazy scenery was just a *monogatari thing, but apparently shaft does this to everything?
Does Araragi actually live in a really normal town?
B-but I can still be the MC's quirky but loveable comedy relief friend, right?
>going to school in a new building
>not going to a at least 200 year old building filled with history
shiggy diggy japs
Did you know his city actually has people in it too?
When Hanekawa saw her house burning in Neko Shiro, in fact the entire class was looking out the window!
Just spoonfeed it to us
I'd fuck your mom
This genuinely made me uncomfortable...
Nigga, buildings are machines for living in
Hidamari buildings were pretty normal.
But then again it was based off a manga.
>This looks almost exactly like my university.
It's time to stop watching Anime anon.
That is a horrifically impractical design and if I had to spend all the years of school having to go to the bottom to get up to the next floor I'd probably be up for murdering the fuck out of the architect who designed it.
>2000 + any year
Almost no-one is left-handed there, Mio is very surprised to see left-handed material in stores.
That's the fucking point, idiot.
Panopticon, a concept by bentham of a prison where everyone is observed 24/7 thanks to the design, SHAFT's school designs are often like that. Foucault expanded it to mean that society is a panopticon or some shit i forget it's been years since i studied that shit.
All i know is foucault was super into bondage.
danzig ist deutsch
I want to go to your fucking university.
Are you sure you wanna live that life anon, the pain of knowing that you're best buddy gets all the chicks while you're stuck as a comic relief who gets none?
>wanting to live inside a Soviet era tractor
Your taste may in fact, be shit.
>you have 1 minute to find me a scene that shows an anime classroom that DOESNT have windows on the right side.
>DOESNT have windows on the right side.
>windows on the right side
THE ENTIRE FUCKING THING IS WINDOWS MAN, OF COURSE THERE ARE WINDOWS ON THE RIGHT SIDE!!
Hey that was my role in high-school
It wasn't too bad at least I had friends
You could use it to separate the kids, like have underclassmen on the 1st and 3rd floors and upperclassmen on the 2nd and 4th floors.
I'm not sure why I'm trying to justify this.
They're glass curtain walls
That's basically my life now except I have a best buddy to eat lunch on the roof with.
So really, it's an improvement.
>Transfer to a new school
>It's during a reasonable time of the year.
The Rival of the MC looks like a fucking boss.
10/10 would help him bully MC
>Not going to wizard school
Fucking muggles I tell you what
Well, we build it with your money.
Thanks I guess.
>The students on the left are a mirror image of those on the right.
This is bothering me more than it should
That looks really off
What is a reasonable time of year to transfer?
Ha. Last time you said that, a war happened.
Americans are so cute, they can't possibly understand a mode of existence different from their own. It's like the whole fahrenheit thing, i had one idiot tell me that fahrenheit is better because it fits how the temperature 'feels', it only 'feels' that way because you're indoctrinated, fuck.
I didn't really like wearing a uniform but at least it's better than 'murikka where you have kids coming to school in rags.
H-how do they get inside? Does every one teleport into the classroom?
I don't know that a universe can handle that.
Hey, fuck you guys, brutalism is about as American as it gets!
Also when did /a/ become /a/rchitecture?
>fahrenheit is better because it fits how the temperature 'feels'
What the fuck
Something is amiss
>dem ugly fucking plants
>transfer to a new school
>no excited whispering
>don't lock eyes with MC
>go quietly to my seat after a tame introduction
>no one talks to me
>implying I'm american
The door is in the middle of the blackboard
Between years or right at the start, surely.
>at least it's better than 'murikka where you have kids coming to school in rags.
thank god i live in a civilized country
Pretty much all brutalists were pinkos, it's about as American as New York.
>stiffing for the sake of the poor
Stay number two rest of the world.
They're eternally in the classroom, there's no GETTING inside
Well, /3/ or /gd/ don't quite fit. and it is /a/
It makes sense considering that most americans haven't even left the county they were born in, they don't know anything else, so celcius seems confusing and illogical to them.
>Not being a class-rep, or at least vice class-rep
brutalism fucking rules and i will brutalize anyone who disagrees
>it's about as American as New York.
The statue of liberty and the empire state building would like a word with you, faggot
I'm sure of seen
>a transfer student this early in the year!?
more than once in my Chinese cartoons.
Well, shit was brand new. They had to put something there.
Truly the pinnacle of American architecture.
I was a class rep for a year in high school.
It was shitty, the class just straight-up didn't give a fuck. You asked them for complaints or things they wanted improved and they'd just shrug.
Take away the American City from America (New York most of all), and America is just a footnote as far as the world is concerned.
The only thing I had to do was ensuring that pre-holidays free days existed.
>'murikka where you have kids coming to school in rags
Did you visit Detroit?
The reason all the classrooms are the same is due to its concept of uniformity. It is a simple and affordable design that any school can copy. They make you wear uniforms and shit too to rip out your individualism.
They're fucking classrooms. There isn't much variety to them.
Did you get blamed for everything too, despite them not giving input at all? If so, I'd like to pat your shoulder or something
So a French-built statue and a larger copy of French buildings?
Every time I hear Detroit mentioned in films or something it's always a joke about how shitty it is.
Is it really that bad?
But Fahrenheit 451 sounds cooler than Celsius 232.77778.
This is how you effectively class-rep.
Kelvin 505 sounds pretty good.
It had a higher per-capita murder rate than the death rate of US soldiers in Iraq.
there were kids walking to school that didn't have fucking shoes
>Is it really that bad?
The entire city filed for bankruptcy
>Don't Jap schools
Any school that makes you wear a uniform forbids it. My high school was the same.
Mexicans have tougher feet from all that running across the border.
Maybe That's the joke
Well that explains it
Worse, Jap schools can force students with naturally blonde hair to dye it black for uniformity.
Jesus, that looks like fucking chernobyl
>Jane Cooper Elementary School, Spring 2008
>Jane Cooper Elementary School, Spring 2009
Jesus Christ. Is this a real place?
How terrible, uniforms suck anyway.
I had school uniform in school.
You get used to it fast and might see the upsides.
Only attentionwhores tend to not like it, since they are forbidden to dress/style them selfes like their kind.
Sage for blogging.
>hey make you wear uniforms and shit too to rip out your individualism
Thats not true, in fact it is quite the opposite. Shit makes you develop a stronger individuality
When you look the same as everybody else you really start to hold on to everything that makes you look different, both in your looks and personality, especially if you are a teenager
>naturally blonde hair
Something here doesn't add up.
Well, that's pretty damning. Poor Detroit.
Kelvin is the only logical temperature measure unit. Who the fuck needs the freezing and boiling point of water in everyday life?
>what is a foreign exchange program
>what are halfies
Pretty easy. Having the MC sit next to the window in the back allows for creators to put more focus on him alone (and possibly the dark foreboding sky in the window).
They also don't have to deal with drawing the whole class all the time, just draw him from the right side.
I'll give you a quick story:
>Cousin studied in Japan because of parents
>Had blonde hair
>School principal forced him to dye hair black because "muh uniformity"
people who consume cooked and refrigerated stuff?
Do you even Rankine?
I miss high school. Now I just browse /a/ all day.
I know a blonde chick who went through nip schools.
If you're left handed in an asian country they force you to write with your right hand.
True story. And they still do it.
It couldn't be helped.
what if there is only one classroom in all of japan
That's kinda hilarious, did they also make them tape their eyes back and show up in yellow face?
Most people who don't only eat junk food/have mommy cook for them
They shut down schools due to lack of population and they just leave all the shit there.
You and your halfsies
It defeats the purpose of uniforms. If you had anything in your hair that was fake, i.e. dye, excessive hairstyles, etc the dean had permission to give you a haircut right there. Male or female.
Wouldn't be surprised.
Anyone who's left handed should be forced to learn to write with their right hand. They're just causing trouble for everyone.
And mine too, but most of my female classmates dyed it anyways and a lot of my male classmates had long hair, myself included
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
bullshit. that would be racial discrimination. there are laws for that.
Looks like they improved it.
Its intent was to stop individualism in Japan, at least. Most hold onto the value of 'not being different' (old people, really).
>brutalism is about as American as it gets
You mean as soviet as it gets
>what are emergency escapes
That's why the windows are so fucking huge. So that people can fit through them easily in a hurry.
I'm pretty sure it's mandatory to have windows in american classrooms where possible, regardless of institutional level. Labs are an exception.
Did you never stop to think that maybe you're as bad as them? You sit here criticizing the ability of another society to understand your way of thinking while in the same sentence show the same complete lack of understanding to their way of thinking. I'm not even going to defend the ego-centric stubborn-headness of us American mules, but from here you're looking pretty hypocritical.
Celsius may be more technically accurate to scientific phenomena, but how much of the general public deals with such things on a daily basis? The Fahrenheit scale was adopted specifically because it better represents the range of temperatures which the average person experiences in their daily life. Only the extreme locations of human habitation go below 0 / above 100 on a regular basis. I'll agree that Celsius is the better system, and using anything but C/K in regards to science, technology and the like is unthinkable, but there is merit to the Fahrenheit system, and you're just as bad as the Americans if you completely ignore that fact.
Catholic school? These are fucking retarded. Did they teach you creationism?
My Architecture School building was a beautiful brutalist design, but midways the 00's it got remodeled into a bland building without any character.
Tthey fucking ruined it.
Only conservative old retards.
Most western style schools are based on the Prussian model which was designed to instill military discipline in children and suppress individualism. You can try and rationalize as helping individuality but it's simply not true.
You'd be surprised.
>implying those conservative retards don't run the school system
Le teenagers designed the classrooms, right?
I have to tell you creationism is not a thing in most of the world
I went to a catholic school and I learned all about evolution
>most classroms I've been in had no windows at all
>go to a ghetto styled school
>be proud of it
I'll never understand americans.
The fact that they have balcony in those classrooms seemed weird to me.
I got no problem with farenheit, I got a problem with the whole 'feels better' reasoning.
Younger generations don't give a fuck.
In the 80's they wore loose socks. Now they just say fuck it faggots.
You can't suspend 2/3 of your students.
Speaking of windows, my school had some, but they're so high up, I couldn't get an anime moment.
Those are transparent walls, not windows.
I'll keep it simple for you, europoor. A degree F is the smallest measure of temperature that humans can commonly differentiate. A degree C is larger than a degree F. You can have it be like 30 C and it can feel different, depending on if it's 30.4 or 29.7 or whatever. Therefore C is an inferior measurement system.
However, I do have a boner for uniforms and wish we had them. Being poor and wearing hand-me-downs is suffering.
>What are they, soldiers?
Funny you should say that, since the school uniforms are based on military uniforms
Bland architecture building, is that their way of pushing away prospective arch students?
The school might be too big for them to go out to eat and do shit outside so the balcony is there for them to chill out during the breaks.
It's a thing only in USA. No other country is that retarded.
>no basement-tier rooms underground
>no closed-off rooms that have no windows or natural lighting
>no shop classes way out in the back of the campus where everybody smokes and the badass manly teacher doesn't give a shit (unless it's auto shop, don't smoke in the garage you fucking dumbasses)
>they sell real food instead of having vending machines full of potato chips and Yoohoo
japanese schools are built uniformly, all the better to uniformly churn out worker drones
Catholics are not creationist.
You missed my original point entirely.
>if it's 30.4 or 29.7 or whatever
What kind of over sensitive skin do you have ? 30C is 30C.
Nevermind that, where did they get the budget to make a whole room for each club in the school?
I know. Even the BD version has that shit. Haven't checked the movies yet.
This, science is the way to understand god's creation.
Fucking retards should read up on Jesuits
Before the niggers moved in, it was fine. Nigs gon nig. Same reason New Orleans is a shithole, and Camden, and Newark.
>Lazy government officials as usual huh?
It's fair that every public school is built the same. It's so that the costs is the same, so no one is being disadvantaged. Or you end up with one school being clearly better or worse than others because of design changes.
>You sit here criticizing the ability of another society to understand your way of thinking while in the same sentence show the same complete lack of understanding to their way of thinking
I never said i don't understand them, in fact, i specifically pointed out that i do understand, you're a particularly cute example since you automatically assume i don't understand fahrenheit, i do, because i'm not retarded. it still sucks, though. 'freezing cold' should not be THIRTY.
>Celsius may be more technically accurate to scientific phenomena, but how much of the general public deals with such things on a daily basis?
every single fucking time they make a cup of tea or coffee, put something in the freezer, defrost something, put food in the microwave or oven or even run a fucking bath holy shit.
>The Fahrenheit scale was adopted specifically because it better represents the range of temperatures which the average person experiences in their daily life.
no it doesn't, you just believe this because you only know fahrenheit
>Only the extreme locations of human habitation go below 0 / above 100 on a regular basis.
i live in a far more temperate place than america and it goes below 0 every winter
>there is merit to the Fahrenheit system
there is not, it is literally a german fag's vanity project
>you're just as bad as the Americans
Of course it is meant for that, but it doesn't work at the level most people think it works
Back in the day when physical punishment was the norm it was easy to break a kid's self esteem and individuality, but nowadays teachers don't have a way to making it work
They just use classrooms that no one else is using I'm pretty sure, since it's after school...
>badass manly teacher doesn't give a shit
Are you 15?
Holy shit those places are cool.
I'd love to be a hobo there.
>I'll keep it simple for you, europoor.
>Being poor and wearing hand-me-downs is suffering.
> A degree F is the smallest measure of temperature that humans can commonly differentiate.
i wish i had a reaction image appropriate to how my face is right now
Hah, further proof that Americans are superior.
>Nevermind that, where did they get the budget to make a whole room for each club in the school?
Class rooms are used as club rooms when school is out.
Only big sports clubs have their own facilities in IRLJapan. And even those are not as impressive as anime would make you think.
Anime to begin with is one massive wishful thinking scenario. A scenario in which Japan remained an industrial superpower.
So then why keep the uniforms? At this point they're just holdovers from a already defunct system and don't accomplish anything a strict dress code wouldn't.
>i wish i had a reaction image appropriate to how my face is right now
Something like this, I imagine.
Many schools have lots of empty classrooms now.
>strict dress code
then why even fucking bother?
A dress code is infuriating bullshit for both students and teachers.
If the school sells the uniforms it gets them money
This is very Bioshock esque.
I doubt he's your mom.
A full potato sounds about right
Because using uniforms is more comfortable, inclusive and efficient than wearing street clothes
got any evidence to back up your shit-retarded claim? other than MOMMY SAID CELSIUS IS THE DEVIL
>Being poor and wearing hand-me-downs is suffering.
Goddammit america, you are so fucking funny sometimes.
>amerifats crawling out of the woodwork to defend a vain german scientist's ego because they only know one temperature system
If its anything like in my country (or at least my hometown), they're sold independently at places that specialize on uniforms.
>invisible drum solo
IMPERIAL MEASUREMENTS FOR IMPERIAL POWERS
NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER SURRENDER
WE'LL BEAT THE METRICS YET
>Many schools have lots of empty classrooms now.
They get closed down. Japanese don't like wasting money. You think someone with their efficiency fetish would leave a school open if it's half empty ? Hah.
They literally pack their shit and leave the school to crumble. It's quite a frequent thing from what I've heard.
That's entirely dependent on the uniform.
Compulsory purchasing should never be a source of funding for a school.
I think you're better off not bothering. The less hand holding you do the better.
>yfw you start watching anime on high school, tons of school life scenes everywhere, and realize that your school:
>has no clubs rooms
>actually, has no clubs at all
>classrooms are like half of that in the pic
>actually, most of the time classrooms and the school as whole holds more students than how fire-safety rules and space itself would allow
>everything is old
>actually, most of the stuff, from labs to computers to bathrooms, hardly works
>the school building itself is old and probably dangerous
>actually, in your city in another high school the ceiling of a classroom collapsed and killed off a student just few years ago
Why i had to live my high school life on the other side of the world, japan?
In small towns where there are no young people.
Large schools built for the baby boomers generations don't get closed down.
Don't they get a part of the money for giving sales to the stores?
Usually the uniforms can only be bought in one place
there has to be some kind of deal between the two
Yeah at my highschool you could get them elsewhere as well but right when you got into highschool they sold you some
You could refuse but then the principal would get in an argument with you even if you had the uniform because he was a dick
No one uses imperial aside from old english people, the correct term for retard-units is ''United States customary units".
Fun fact: they were last updated in the 1800s
>No twin tails
No wonder she did such a shitty job as class rep.
>You think someone with their efficiency fetish
As a german I can relate.
you started watching anime last season OP?
He should have done that in protest. And to get a few laughs.
That's what you'd think.
This is why you need to be smart. IB and AP classes had a lot of advantages when I was in High School.
>large spacious rooms, max 20 students per class
>clubs full of smart kids, nignogs went to loiter at McDicks after school so a lot of empty rooms for clubs
>extra library, art and computer supplies for smart classes
RIP in peace
You are pretty efficient, largely for yourself. (There are some countries around you that are more efficient or work harder, but you seem to have a good balance.)
Japan is pretty efficient for a few rich old men.
If by that you mean art deco, then yeah, it is
go drink the mercury in your outdated thermometer
who uses thermometers?
I'm sure there were some kickbacks to the schools to get their business and the school certainly liked to point you to a particular shop and not some of the cheaper ones. And there were also some people who flat out had the uniforms tailored you just needed to get the school emblem.
that sucks, but yeah, I also saw that happen if your uniform wasn't quite up to standard.
Dunno i figured if you care so much about getting temperature to the smallest degree you'd carry one around with you at all times.
Are we even talking about anime classrooms anymore?
We're trying to determine which anthropomorphized temperature system is best girl, Mr. Satan.
Celsius is so moe.
It's obvious Kelvin is the best.
I wonder if there is an anime about cute units of measurement doing cute things
I'm sure Japan will find a way.
They do this in Kansas too.
Kelvin is the absolute best.
>mfw I'm ambidextrous
Araragi's bathroom exists in a separate dimension connected to his house.
Kelvin-chan obviously. She is a bit of a wallflower, some even label her cold, but in the end everyone knows they can rely on her.
>actually, in your city in another high school the ceiling of a classroom collapsed and killed off a student just few years ago
Are you by chance German? That's what happened in my hometown.
This is bulgaria and romania,guys.
I imagine Fahrenheit being the boke
Celsius is the tsukkomi
and Kelvin is Celsius's cute imouto
funfact, i once studied in a public school that used to be a prison, however it was a good school(we are not america after all) with that i mean both the school system and the school building, windows everywhere
Brutalism is future-proof.
what do the runes on the board say?
Did they teach how to capitalize and punctuate?
Kevin is definitely Celsius' imouto. What of the other girls?
Kelvin, damn it.
The American public education system is based off of the American prisoner detention system.
They use the same buses, the buildings share the same layout, they share the same lunch room layout, originally had the SAME standards for food.
The government was trying to figure out the most efficient way to force millions of children to attend something they didn't want to attend and figured that running a prison and running a school was exactly the same thing.
Because all the people in charge of drawing the scenery and backgrounds went to the same school.
Danny Choo is a massive faggot.
Freedomland is truly the best.
Created the best atmosphere for those school shootings though.
Well, Fahrenheit, being the non-scientific outdated method that it is, always say things that sounds dumb and Celsius will always be correcting her
as a yurofag who attended an american-style international school i can say that the latter school system was way better
sage for blogshit
>fucking extra looked at the camera
Even concentration camps had windows
>No windows on any rooms, except ~6 of them that was in a smaller separate building, were never actually used for classes
>Those only had those shitty windows barely taller then your head all the way at the top of the damn room.
>Classes had 32 people stuffed into every damn class, that could fit 20 people at most comfortably
>Get to uni
>No windows again, but at least the rooms have proper seating,
>except in the fucking english departments room where they stick absurds amounts of people in a small as fuck room, using chairs that feel like they are designed for 10 year olds.
>My uni has FIVE consecutive english courses forced for every major
Clapistan needs to learn to fucking schooling.
Comparing nazism vs the american school system it's very obvious which one would lose.
All of you guys are filthy plebs. A true patrician uses the Rømer scale for temperature.
Which is why average Americans can't into science. Bare in mind that I'm not saying America has no scientist or they are bad. America has a lot of good scientists, what I am saying is that your system makes your average citizens ignorant to the world you might as well call them farm animals.
The Imperial system of measurement is more efficient for day-to-day activities.
One meter take 100 centimeters to fill. That is a difference of 1 to 100. Decimeters might be able to help there, but let's be honest... no one uses them.
There are 12 inches to a foot, and 3 feet to a yard, and one yard is a little less than a meter.
Most tables I have encountered can be measured in several feet. Very few tables I have encountered have been able to be measured in less than one meter.
Chairs are the same. You try using meters to measure a chair, and you will have a bad day.
Everything in your day to day life has to be measured in centimeters. Even when something is over 1 meter, most of everyone ignores the conversion of centimeter to meter. They still measure it in three digit centimeter values.
Centimeters are too small compared to their large meters for an efficient measuring system. You either have to work with an extremely small measure or an extremely big measure. There is no between.
Also, when was the lat time anyone had to measure in millimeters? They are so small.
Imperial is just easier to use with the small things in life. measuring things that appear every day without having to mess with triple digits all the time.
Miles and kilometers are are the only part where I prefer the metric system. When you deal with such distances, you cannot help but have extreme differences between the long and short measurements.
This is an oddly appropriate comparison.
Prisons are designed to give police easy access to the prisoners, and in event of a riot, they are forced to collect in certain choke points which make prime targets for prison guards to open fire with lethal force.
Using decimals to measure was so hard when I was 5 years old
Metric is used in science, in space exploration and in high precision machinery. Even in America.
Using Imperial is out of the question, it's horrible.
Sounds about right.
After my first year at my high school, they surrounded the entire school with fences, leaving only one large exit (Which was closed during the school).
Combine that with no windows FUCKING ANYWHERE, the entire thing being made of concrete, and the shitty food. Suddenly, you feel like you are in a fucking prison.
>One meter take 100 centimeters to fill.
what is the problem with that? People's heads are not exploding for having to use centimeters.
>Also, when was the lat time anyone had to measure in millimeters?
Everytime I need a bolt or a screw.
>What are centimeters?
This is so wrong it hurts.
You are a fucking moron
Signed, everyone with a brain.
Is that even legal?
at this point i'm not sure if it's the imperial system that made americlaps stupid, or the other way round
Education system determines how the next generation will look like. You American should be aware that being taught the more scientific way would make your children more acceptable towards science, not just accepting fairy tales like creationism. (Sounds familiar, eh?)
I love using decimals, but the choice to make centimeters so small was a really bad idea.
Decimeters should have been the standard instead of meters. A base of 10 between measurements is better than 100 and 1000.
Move a bit on the South.
No, not Switzerland, a bit further South.
>The Imperial system of measurement is more efficient for day-to-day activities.
Probably breaks some fire safety code, the school was rather large.
Not that this would stop them anyway.
must suck, living in teh ghetto
Where did you graduate?
Did you graduate?
student of the year all years
Meters are fine. the only problem is the kilo, the fact that it's called kilo it's evidence that one we got wrong.
Was in the middle of nowhere, mostly rednecks.
The area just started to be built up a decade or so ago, and there is only a relatively small ghetto that is split between three different schools, so no one school in the area has any issues with it.
So no, that had nothing to do with it.
Let me guess, they use the windows as doors?
I can remember a lot of classrooms like that from my old schools. It's the most efficient classroom design. Naturally the windows would not always be on the right side.
I don't se what's the problem, is not like you have to convert them like with feets and inches, just move the decimal sign an space and your'e done.
what the fuck am I reading?
That's generally how my school was, minus some of the fencing. It was built during the cold war so it was made to be a fallout shelter, hence the lack of windows and cell reception. Funny thing was the main part of the school was a 3 story high silo, so we always joked about it being used as a missile base.
Is this what americans actually believe?
The difference between the two allows for a larger frequency of errors between the meter and centimeter.
centimeters are 1/100 of a meter. A meter is huge in comparison to a single centimeter.
Converting the two off of paper is a nightmare
to hell if you need to distinguish the difference between 99 centimeters and 1 meter. The difference of 1%.
11 inches and 1 foot is a bigger, more significant difference that is easy to see.
Also, 12 is divisible by 12, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1.
This makes it more flexible with different ratios.
10 is divisible by 10, 5, 2, 1. After that you need to work with decimals for anything that isn't a half or a whole.
Not the non-stupid ones. I personally prefer metric to custom and will use it as much as possible in everything possible, and so do most of my friends.
They look like giant baby cribs in a nursery.
Was the architect trying to promote infantilism or something?
The general retard might thing it is alright because they can't be assed to learn a different (simpler) system then what is used everywhere around them.
Anyone remotely educated doesn't think it is a good system, but likely uses it anyway because there is not much of a choice here.
If I was an animator in Japan, for one anime I'd just make a classroom where the tables are in those big squares. Like, the ones in my school were basically two Japanese tables put together for two people to sit next to, then 2 or 3 of those would be put together to make a square or rectangle for either 4 or 6 people.
What would the reaction be from the Japanese if they saw a classroom like that? Would they not care or would they go full autistic about it?
Not in Japan there is
>Converting the two off of paper is a nightmare
I didn't know moving a decimal place over two is hard.
>to hell if you need to distinguish the difference between 99 centimeters and 1 meter.
99 centimeters = .99 meters
You retarded m8?
This has got to be a really bad "troll".
what errors? you just move the decimal point. in inches, feet, miles etc you actually have to do conversions.
On paper. However how do you plan on measuring in the first place?
One wrong slip of the finger could mean the difference between one and two meters. A difference that requires you to then convert to something like 199 centimeters.
You technically need to move the decimals two spaces to accommodate for the difference.
The decimeter needs to be used more. It is more efficient.
>I didn't know moving a decimal place over two is hard.
Yeah, on paper. I said off paper.
>99 centimeters = .99 meters
Yeah. How do you see that off of paper? One centimeter is too small to eye-ball.
You NEED a ruler to figure out how big something is with the metric system.
If the centimeter was larger, you could come up with a rough estimate as to how large something is. However, with smaller units of measure, the need for accuracy is that much higher.
>Yeah, on paper. I said off paper.
Do you have the IQ of a fucking rock?
I'm not even reading the rest of your post.
>Everything in your day to day life has to be measured in centimeters. Even when something is over 1 meter, most of everyone ignores the conversion of centimeter to meter. They still measure it in three digit centimeter values.
Decimal points, how do they work? 1200 mm = 120cm = 1.20m = "one meter twenty" (colloquially).
Also, don't they teach you powers of 10 and SI prefixes at school?
I don't understand what your saying anymore.
> One centimeter is too small to eye-ball
I do hope you don't have a driving license.
1) This is very bad b8
2) You are retarded
>One centimeter is too small to eye-ball.
>One wrong slip of the finger could mean the difference between one and two meters.
What ? Are you retarded ?
>One centimeter is too small to eye-ball.
You're better going to have your eye checked, might need glasses.
I mean, badly.
The average limit for human eye is a fraction of millimeter (a tenth iirc). If you have trouble discerning centimeters, you're half-blind.
The error between a meters and kilometers.
100 centimeters in a meter allows for too many opportunities to lose a centimeter here and there between when you start and stop measuring.
A meter stick is large and bulky, and no one carries them around.
Try measuring things with that all the time.
You will want to opt out for a decimeter stick for your day-to-day activities.
Oh hey Britain.
How does it feel to know that your country's infested with mudslimes, you have no real way of protecting yourself against niggers trying to steal yo shit, and that your country is our bitch on the international stage?
All you plebs not measuring by tatami.
They do not shut up
Unless you live in backwards western kansas
I think he was talking about the spelling.
Still pleb, but for a more pathetic reason.
I bow down to your world-class intellect.
Get a 99 centimeter stick and 1 meter stick, take a step back and look at both of them.
Yeah. Which one is the meter stick?
He should have used "football field" as the base unit.
What day to day activities do you do where you require high precision measurements but without the luxury of carrying a measuring tape?
Hey murica, how does it feel to be free but spied on by your own government?
>The error between a meters and kilometers.
>A meter stick is large and bulky, and no one carries them around.
And do you carry yard sticks around?
the longest one
>Yeah. Which one is the meter stick?
The evidently longer one.
I swear, every argument on /a/ about something having to do with math leads to this reaction image around the 500th reply.
my school building was shaped like a U, so corridor on the inside, and all the rooms on the outside, so it is possible bro
there are 30cm and 50cm rulers you know. the first matches a foot, but I like my 50cm ruler more.
No one can distinguish what a tenth of a millimeters looks like. You can see it, yes. However, you can't tell how big it is.
Looks more like architectural nudism. Everything is exposed.
Holy shit, this is amazing.
It felt kinda weird at first, but then I realized so long as I don't do anything stupid, nothing bad should happen to me.
Unless you talk about making a bomb and blowing up the statue of liberty on the phone or something, they're not gonna care.
>transfer to new school
>I don't recognize anyone
What the shit?
I'm dying, plese stop it.
Miesian for short.
I can't handle it either.
Oh my god, bait of this scale is illegal anon. ILLEGAL
That would be the right answer. Now have someone else prepare a set of three sticks. One is 101, one is 100, one is 99. You will only see two and that person selects at random.
Which one is the meter stick, or is the meter stick even present? The difference is just too small to tell.
IF the difference was 10% like from centimeter to decimeter, then it would be overly obvious which one is closest to the meter. However, a 1% difference between centimeter and meter is too large to accurately tell the difference of what is supposed to be the meter.
Danny choo is a world class cunt
But say one is 0.99 meters and the other is 1 meter and no one cares
Are you scared of numbers that have more than two digits?
So, are you telling me that you have shit sight and memory
>However, a 1% difference between centimeter and meter is too large to accurately tell the difference of what is supposed to be the meter.
Nah, you'd be able to tell if the difference is one or two centimeters, it's just evident, everyone has a vague idea of what a centimeter is supposed to be, at least enough to tell between one and two.
Why 30? Why 50?
Neither of those are valid individual units in metric.
The demimeter ruler?
The foot ruler in Imperial is one foot. A complete individual measure.
Brutalism is as American as vodka and knish.
Except the guy you're replying to, it seems.
All my life until high school I was in a private school and the uniform felt so natural, so comfy that I almost never used normal clothes in the week. I came home and stayed in the uniform for a good while.
Going to high school with normal clothes was annoying, because I had to buy new clothes since I didn't have alot before.
Oh yeah but adding 3/8 of an inch is a lot easier.
two 50s make one 100
but yeah, I never liked 30cm rulers
20cm ones are better
IF that is how you treat your brilliantly accurate measuring system, why even use it in the first place?
Most people have bad memory and do not associate accurate visual measurement to everything they look at.
Yes, when comparing something like 10 and 9 centimeters. I don't have a problem with that. It is when it enters the triple digits without any form of larger unit conversions.
Metric needs to use the decimeter more.
So you can chose which on is most useful depending on your needs
All I'm seeing in pic related is a toy elephant with its nose cut off. The eye is cute though.
I thought he was from New Jersey.
When you get below a centimeter or and inch, you need very accurate measuring devices to get the correct answer.
The problem I have with metric is between the centimeter and meter. It is just unnecessarily large.
You either work in three digits or single digits.
Because the brilliance is that it is so malleable. I can do whatever the fuck I want and it's still coherent.
Makes sense, because having double desks encourages them to chat during class, and no teacher would want that.
In my school we had double desks and some teachers just forcibly told certain(or all) students where to sit so they wouldn't be able to chat with their friends.
I've never been on good terms with any of my deskmates. We either ignored each other or were annoyed.
Why don't you just use decimals you fucking autist
Fuck metric and imperial systems.
Lest start using the Modulor.
to the imperial system guy.
Well, every bit of everyday shit in the states is in imperial, of course you are used to it, and it seems easier and more natural.
The thing is, as science is using the international systems (meters and stuff), the guys here just want to make sense of what you are saying.
Unless you are into technical drawing, or something with construction desing in it, you probably won't use a meter stick to measure anything, too big.
We have different sizes rules for the same reason you do.
And i need to get into advanced physics and termodynamics in order to explain why the international system is better. (it has to do with constants).
>The problem I have with metric is between the centimeter and meter. It is just unnecessarily large.
You're retarded and/or bait. If you're trolling 10/10 because you mad this whole thread very mad.
Seriously though, in real life getting 375 ml of water in a bottle is not a hassle nor is building a table that is a metre across and 1.5 metres wide
but anon that's a system of proportions not measurement
You'll call all three of them 1m sticks and be right, because you don't need such precision in daily life.
If you'll need it, you'll use measurement tools and see which is which.
You keep mentioning "three digits" but, Why would you measure in cm something that is 10, 100 or more meters?
You can, and that is the beauty of the system, but there is no reason to do it
how do you handle kg/g/mg
Everyone's so hot about it they're forgetting what only matters is anything realated to their waifu. So let's use pixels.
Other than the meter and decimeter metric system rulers, the rest don't follow any real reason other than they are divided by 10.
60 cm ruler and a 50 cm ruler. It... Is silly.
The metric system needs 10 different sizes of ruler while Imperial only needs 2.
But why learn two systems, one for everyday life and the other for science? Imperial doesn't work in the latter, while metric does in both. It's clear which one is superior.
I buy a 3kg bag of flour but 500 gram boxes of baking soda. If it's in between you use decimals so something that weighs 1200 grams would be labelled as 1.2 kg.
Decimals only work on paper. There is no magic decimal in real life.
>Metric needs to use the decimeter more
>The world must do as I say because I am too stupid to understand and I have a bad eyesight.
New level reached.
I want to try too, english has to use better verbal tenses, the grammar of most of the continuous form are reduntant and stupid, they aren't even used in day-to-day chats.
well, we are using a base 10 numerical system, it only follows to have a system divisible by 10.
>Implying numbers are real
>chairs that feel like they are designed for 10 year olds.
Stop being fat.
>english gen eds
I feel you. I just want it to be over, already. We have two english, 1 literature, public speaking, and a "writing intensive" which I'm taking philosophy for.
Why the fuck would you carry a 100cm ruler of you only measure things under 50cm, 60cm or any other cm.
Decimal a shit
Dozenal master race
That...actually sounds like a good idea
you call it silly I call it useful, I got a 15cm I can carry everywhere, some 30cm ones because thanks to your system, they're abundant, I got the 50cm that I actually use, and I got a t-square because arch school lied to me.
>the grammar of most of the continuous form are reduntant and stupid, they aren't even used in day-to-day chats.
When talking about relative time frames, they are
>/a/ - Waifus and measurements
>guys I like your building but I think it'll improve if we put some green in it
Well we were actually going for a light, etheric glass-
>yeah but it looks so clinical, I'm ordering some plants to finish it off
give it the log horizon treatment and have the entire structure overgrown by plants and it would be awesome
I have never used one of these with an inches scale.
Is it as shitty as it looks to use?
>Most classrooms I've been in had no windows at all
The only school I can think of that ever had "no window" was this shitty place with open classrooms that made everything echo clear across the building. But even then, they had a few windows around.
Sounds like you just live in a shitty area.
Looks like it could make a cool sword to hit your friends
Fractional inches are truly the worst. I mean it's not impossible and you get used to it eventually but figuring out how much 15cm + 1.25m is a lot easier than adding 2 and 3/8 inches to 3 feet 4 and 2/3 inches.
>And i need to get into advanced physics and termodynamics in order to explain why the international system is better. (it has to do with constants).
Those constants just have different values in other measurement systems, hell if you ever actually do 'advanced' physics you'll find yourself using MeV, u, au (both the electron mass and astronomical unit) and fractions of c as often as you use SI units.
Plus, fractional inches imply a thumb getting cut somehow.
Science and physics deals with exponents and of the like where decimals make perfect sense. In theory it should work fine in every day life, but it does not carry over without being extra clunky about it.
You have a small measurement and a large measurement with no stops in between.
Centimeter to meter is a large gap.
10 is divisible by 4 (10, 5, 2, 1) numbers, while 12 is divisible by 6 (12, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1) numbers.
I encounter things that fall into the 1/12 area of the Imperial system all the time.
Nothing in my life is ever conveniently half of 100. It is always a little off somewhere. Having to imagine 87 centimeters in one's head isn't exactly a reliable thing.
One foot is a large single unit, but it isn't so large that it must be chopped up into 100 smaller pieces. It only requires 12.
Life isn't filled with exponential growth that requires decimals. It is usually filled with adding and subtracting small measurements to see if something fits.
I'm just upset with the idea that the metric system doesn't use a 1/10 decimeter measure.
You go to someone and try to use decimeter, they look at you like you are insane. They then convert it to centimeters, adding another unnecessary digit.
On the ruler he showed it is far easier to measure 1/8ths of inches than it is to measure 1/4rters of cm.
Posting in a thread which will be screencapped.
One ruler to rule them all,
one ruler to find them all,
one ruler to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them
That ruler means nothing smartpie.
>I'm just upset with the idea that the metric system doesn't use a 1/10 decimeter measure.
That's what a centimeter is
The day i've left a thread talking about anime/japanese classrooms, with people comparing them to their high school building, and came back to find morons circlejerking about measure units.
There are things too stupid to be told, for everything else there's 4chan.
Eh, it doesn't feel that great. But atleast we don't go to jail for offending someone over the Internet
>Also, when was the lat time anyone had to measure in millimeters? They are so small.
and now everyone at /k/ is angry, thanks
It's an architects scale, not a "ruler".
Newsflash, we're spying on you too. No one is safe from the long tentaclely arm of the NSA, not even you bongers.
>There are things too stupid to be told, for everything else there's 4chan.
I think this warrants a board banner.
I phrased it incorrectly. I am upset that there is no decimeter (1/10 measure of a meter) used in common world measuring.
It's really the only reason why I still use imperial. I can tell someone "two feet" and they can draw it out very easily on paper within an error of 4 inches, but when I tell them 60 centimeters, there is at least a 10 centimeter error between people.
It is frustrating.
Decimeters are so much easier to visualize.
>Also, when was the lat time anyone had to measure in millimeters? They are so small.
The last time they had to measure your dick
Still that specific ruler means nothing.
At least it isn't our own government. Also, it throws the notion of you guys living in a Free country which, let's admit, all you guys ever talk about.
>Having to imagine 87 centimeters in one's head isn't exactly a reliable thing.
That's just because you're not used to it.
>Life isn't filled with exponential growth that requires decimals. It is usually filled with adding and subtracting small measurements to see if something fits.
Yeah and strait up addition and subtraction is just as easy when you're used to it. A recipe calling for 1 kg of flour and 60 grams of baking powder should weigh 1.06 kg on the scale. or 1060 grams depending on what mode you're in.
>I'm just upset with the idea that the metric system doesn't use a 1/10 decimeter measure.
That's because 10 cm is a pretty useless everyday measure. If it makes you feel better in a lot of european countries you order liquids by the decilitre.
You do realize that all of those have imperial measurement alternatives of .50, .30, & .22?
.50 caliber is 0.5 inch.
7.62mm is .30 caliber or 0.3 inch
But 4 inches is more than 10cm.
Exactly, it's a tool used by architects for drawing blueprints to exact scales. It isn't designed to be used to measure lengths.
Bet not even the US army uses imperial for rounds
Yeah, well atleast we can have guns even if they are trying to take ours away, only be arrested with actual charges, and we get a lawyer in our defense
but 4 inches are just slightly over 10cm, where is the fucking difference?
Besides, people used to metric system will have a smaller error using metric system compared if you want to force imperial system on them.
I thought decimals were too hard?
>your entire post chain
You know that 2 of those are rounds are quoted in imperial measurements right?
US military is fully metric so they can work with other NATO and ANZAC forces. Soldiers individually still use miles and the big machine guy is still colliqually called a 50 cal though obviously.
Fucking autosage, this thread is killing me.
>If it makes you feel better in a lot of european countries you order liquids by the decilitre.
It does. Thankyou for telling me.
Still, I wish there was SOMETHING that could be used to chop up the meter into something more useful. I haven't had to use yards all too often in Imperial, everything ending up in foot and inches regardless.
I would hate the Imperial system too if it meant I had to measure in inches all the time. centimeters are smaller than inches, so that makes it even worse.
Metric needs a foot. Metric needs a type of foot in between the meter and centimeter.
>we can have guns
Because that is so important
> only be arrested with actual charges
>we get a lawyer in our defense
The US army uses a mix. some artillery is still measured in imperial. The navy still uses "5 inch guns" and other "inch guns"
>Still, I wish there was SOMETHING that could be used to chop up the meter into something more useful.
Everyone just uses 3 digit cm or decimal pointed metres. Sorry man.
you want something close to feet because that's what you're used to, people who use metric don't feel the need to use decimeters the same way that you probably don't use yards that often either. If you think metric needs something between meter and cm, go use a decimeter, but like you said people are going to look at you funny because they don't find the cm-m system lacking.
there is decimeter. That this gets used so rarely should show you that a unit like that isn't as useful as you think it is
The decimal did not move.
Actually this is interesting. A 5 inch guns barrel bore is obviously 5 inches but officially (like on paper and what manufacturers get) it's 12.7 cm.
>Because that is so important
That actually is important. We got our rights by shooting your ancestors, remember?
Some of the guns are so old they are from pre-NATO times.
I hear people estimate to the nearest 10 centimeters all the time. How can the decimeter not be useful?
I obviously meant new ones getting manufactured now.
Almost no difference between saying "twenty centimeters" and "two decimeters".
I've never heard anyone actually doing that.
yeah, but they leave the unit as 'cm' which I have no problem with, saying decimeter is just awkward.
>But 4 inches is more than 10cm.
But one is a 4 and the other is a 10.
It goes to show just how small the centimeter is. People can't distinguish inches all too well without a visual aid. It gets even worse with centimeters which are smaller.
"One hundred twenty or thirty centimeters"
"Twelve or thirteen decimeters."
It sounds so much more compact...
"Meter twenty", you mongoloid retard.
>But one is a 4 and the other is a 10.
And, the point is what? The error is still larger with the imperial measure.
>about one hundred twenty centimeters
>about twelve decimeters
The first one is clearly better.
Where i live people usually say "it's 20/30/40/etc centimeters long" or "it's half a meter / a meter and a half" or "a meter twenty/thirty/etc".
Alternatively, if you need a simple, non-exact unit you can use your hand span (usually around 20-25 cm for a grown man)
One twenty cm.
Call me a mongoloid all you want. It is what i hear coming out of Europe and the rest of the world.
Centimeters in metric are treated the same as feet in Imperial.
Someone who is 6 feet tall is technically two yards. However, they still measure in feet and inches.
People are measured in centimeters the same way, along with a dozen and a half other every day objects that are more than a meter, but less than a lot of meters.
>mock Americans for using imperial in casual life
>use fucking hand spans when doing the same
A hand is 1/3 of a foot in Imperial. It is a technical term.
this post just shows that you are not used to the metric system, see >>100602628
no, people are measured in meters, usually like "one eighty" for 1.80m
cm are only used for kids smaller than a meter
Hence, this system is both useful in common situation and in science. Imperial is not. What's the problem with metric again?
well to be fair it is only used colloquially by farmers and artisans or older people, if they're just talking about say the length of a nightstand for example. If you need a slab of wood and you tell the guy you want it to be 3 hand spans long, he's gonna laugh at you and give you a shit cut.
I still prefer 18 decimeters.
so what if you're 1.85m?
suit yourself, you're gonna sound pretty weird when you use it though
Because it's closer to how your brain conceptualizes measurements.
Implying this thread isn't "Japanese classrooms" and "Autism".
Eighteen and a half decimeters if you must be that accurate. Or even 19 decimeters if you are rounding.
The whole point of rounding to the nearest decimeter is so you don't have to be accurate, yet uphold the general integrity of the measurement.
The metric system is supposed to have a decimeter. It's not my fault the Europeans don't want to follow their own system.
One eighty means 180, hence 'when you see an x-bawks three sixty you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away'.
It has no decimeter.
The difference between centimeter and meter is too large.
Why write three numbers when you can write two?
It saves a lot of computing, paper, and physical space in general.
What do Japanese classrooms have to do with anything?
I must have had the best fucking high school ever, then.
We had, like, 5 different sports fields, half-decent food, a giant-ass garage for certain courses, teachers of all ages, a theater for arts classes, a gym that could fit my house, all kinds of different clubs, tons of exits, seniors could go off-campus for lunch, students could choose their courses, and yet apparently it's still pretty low budget.
I don't know what happened during the planning process, but after this thread, I'm suddenly thankful.
Caribou, Maine, for the 3 who are curious.
>What do Japanese classrooms have to do with anything?
Well, on paper they were the argument of this thread.
one eighty is the same as one hundred eighty.
You accuse Americans of not using decimals, and yet you don't even use decimals.
"One point eight meters."
you don't just round 5cm, people are used to precision to the cm, that's why they don't use dm in the first place.
It couldn't have been a public school could it?
>eats candy bought by the hektogram
one eighty is obviously shorter to say, and if you're talking about the height of humans you don't even need to specify the unit. And I was not accusing americans of anything anyway.
Don't make this sound hotter than it needs to.
If anything, that is a language problem, not a math one
The "point" is implied by the context, so it is not necessary to use it in casual talk
5 centimeters are the same as 2 inches in Imperial.
When speaking of something in casual conversation that is about three feet in length, a rogue inch just isn't too pressing. However, if you Europeans are so bent on getting things down to the nearest centimeter, then that only proves just how stupid metic is.
The centimeter is smaller than an inch, and the inch is many times fairly negligible in every day life to begin with.
If you are not an engineer or a scientist, the decimeter is a very simple unit.
one eighty could mean anything. One foot means one foot. Instead of using something that could mean one hundred eighty of something, why not use 18 decimeters?
This is what happens. Leave Europeans to talk about numbers and they tell you math isn't important!
>being unable to deduce what's being said from context
Have you never spoken to a real person in your life?
Believe it or not, yes. We had students from about 3 towns, though.
on paper, but Japanese classrooms are too small to eyeball
Why are you assuming that I am european?
Also, we are not talking about math, we are talking about the social uses of something derived from it
In that case what this guy >>100603385 said.
look, you are a user of the imperial system and try to tell users of the metric system how they should use their system even though they are way more familiar with it than you are.
People here also keep telling you that your ideas how people would use it are actually wrong.
you missed the part that specified that the topic was the height of humans. The unit is obvious from the context.
I'm sure you have misunderstood what other people said more than once in your life because one thing sounded like something else.
I actually talk to many different kinds of people from many different places. Everyone talks differently, and I end up getting into issues where context is not enough. Thick accents and difference in culture are hell to get though.
For an international system, the way you Europeans use it makes me want to shoot myself. Too many times have I had people use shortened versions of words and terms in a group of multinationals and everyone got a completely different picture.