Who would win between Saitama and Shenron Goku? My roommate is a die-hard DBZ fan, and is convinced that no one could ever beat Goku, but after getting into One Punch Man, it seems like Saitama would have an easy time of defeating him. What does /a/ think?
Nobody ever saw Saitama getting serious, but I have serious trouble believing he'll survive in outer space. So I'll say Goku, simply because he can annihilate the planet itself and let Saitama suffocate.
Goku will also fucking die due to lack of air and I don't think Goku teleport is multiversal.
I went and found this just for you! Power level arguments are so fucking stupid, any retard can make up a character with ultimate power. How about you compare something worth thinking about, like the actual qualities of the anime/manga?
You people seriously are so fucking dumb that you don't get the point of One Punch Man?
The point is that there's no stupid fucking power level X vs. Y garbage
One Punch Man wins IN ONE PUNCH
THERE'S NO DISCUSSION
Why the fuck did someone edit that?
I take it you haven't read the original webcomic.
This post might give some perspective:
"And no, Saitama has taken a lot more powerful attacks than from Genos [It hasnt appeared in the actual artwork manga though]. Saitama busts a blast meant to destroy Earth with a single punch that destroys the alien space ship. He later comments Saitama wasnt even trying.
And then later against Garou (who blitzed a guy who is FTL), Saitama fodderized him by getting just a "bit" serious, as he called it. This bit seriousness of his tore a large hole in Earth and pumelled Garou to space it seems (scan wasn't clear except Garou said he was thrown). "
A. Goku would never destroy the planet to defeat a foe.
B. Even though it hasn't been seen, Saitama could more than likely survive the vacuum of space, just based on what has been seen.
C. Goku can't survive in space either, and even if he were to attempt a teleportation, Saitama would just rush over and grab onto him to be teleported as well (being that he is faster than faster than light)
Also, this (without the insults).
Plus, I'll preemptively argue against Goku throwing him in space, because he probably wouldn't even be able to move Saitama.
Pretty sure Goku is the one character that absolutely would refuse to blow up Earth..
If you're agreeing with my post then why the fuck are you taking part in the discussion
I should also add the reference to this post:
http://forums.warofninja.com/15378/onepunch-man-vs-ss2-goku by a user named Low.
>i dont read the manga
Demon dude took many punches to kill.
Doesn't need to be. It's been shown he can roll around space no problem.
>kill the planet
Goku's character aside, he wouldn't need to. Even if Saitama could out-punch him, Goku has some powerful ass plot armor and the power level bullshit.
I meant the part about One Punch Man's power. I absolutely disagree with you being a shit head, though. If you are that bent out of shape towards the argument, just hit the hide button and move on with your life.
Besides that, unless Everything That Ever Was was on the line, Goku wouldn't pussy out of a fight like that by destroying a planet
You're joking right?
Didn't take many punches, just used many punches.
I guess powerman wasn't powerful enough...
X vs. Y arguments are shitty and belong on /b/ or in the power level threads that are specifically dedicated to that
>never heard of site
>posts are sensible and full of logic (including references)
>still complaining about reference
I think I should be asking if you are joking.
Same thing, nignog, Saitama punched the guy more than once, nullifying that point.
>your opinion =! actuality
You aren't going to get anywhere with that attitude.
>Goku vs Luffy threads
>it's a forum
What are you going to do, link gaia here next?
I dunno, we haven't seen the full extent of Saitama's power yet.
Everything he has done, Goku has also done or can do.
I want to say Saitama though.
Not at all. He can punch as many times as he likes. The point of one punch is that it only takes one. If we were to go that far, several of his fights would be nulled, being that he doesn't always go in for the attack right away.
>only been to ONE thread, from a google search
>in said thread, this factor, once again: posts are sensible and full of logic (including references
>instantly dismissing due to the rest of the site.
Do you also think all Muslims are extremists?
Wow, guys, come on, it's just a hobby...
>punch some guy many times
>keep punching him until he's weak
>punch him really hard
"that's the only punch that was needed"
Nigga, fuck you, one-punch equals one punch, not a bunch of punches and a better punch.
I think that everyone who regularly visits a forum called "war of ninjas" is an underage fuck who doesn't belong on /a/
That site is gaia-lite.
What, you expect me to go through an entire shitty forum just to confirm that it is indeed, another shitty forum, like all of them?
but saitama said himself that he was just playing around. The one time saitama got serious with his headbutt, demondude barely dodged and got his arm exploded.
Yes, because people never lie or taunt in fights.
I think what he was getting at is... it isn't fun to end it right away each time. Maybe he tones it down, gives the enemy some time to go through the motions of declaring how amazing they are?
Not saying that, in the slightest. Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass. I'm talking about one thread, and focusing on one post.
And I'm focusing on the fact that you visit a cancerous forum and you're probably the one who made the shitty thread. You don't just get to post shit like that on /a/ and not get called out for it. It's the same as if you tried to point out a post from narutoforums saying "oh this one post is good"
You are so far in denial. You either need to brush up on the facts before arguing further, or watch out for the crocodiles.
Iirc he hit the guy like he meant it a few times, and was amazed and in joy that the dude didn't die immediately. This means that the whole "he only needs one punch!" has no fucking ground because having a fight where he needed more than one punch completely destroyed that illusion.
Powerfags and powerthreads sucks, just look at the shitposts
>baseless assumption, out of nowhere
Oh no! He went there, everyone. He clearly still has all credibility.
>responding to that picture with this post, this late in the thread.
>Madfag who can't win his argument.
>INB4 I just got here
Why would you be on a "War of ninjas" forum unless you were a participant? You're the one who linked me there
I'm serious, it's literally exactly the same as linking narutoforums, why do you think that it's okay to do that?
Not the other guy, but using a shitty forum on-par with Gaia is basically a roundabout way of going "I am a huge faggot please shit on my face."
What part of clicked on link in google do you not understand?
Protip: It's the second link that I just so happened to find when I happened to search this before posting.
Intelligent, well-spoken individuals with amazing taste
I bet I could find a Gaia link through Google and link it, that doesn't make it any less retarded.
Now, you must be joking.
1/10; I replied
Look what else I found?
clearly I should post this on /a/, because /a/ loves forums and respects their posters
Not the point. You are all saying that just because most of the site is bad, even intelligible and informative posts are by consequence, bad. If this was the case, then virtually EVERY site would have to be dismissed, especially on /a/, being that the lot on here, just in this thread, have been doing a stand-up job of give the entire site a bad name. Therefore, we can stop arguing here, and dismiss everything you've said. Have fun digging your way out of this one. <3
yeah you're from gaia
>then virtually EVERY site would have to be dismissed
That would be the point. Why are you relying on some post from some forum you've never heard of to make your arguments for you?
>implying goku could beat someone that is canonically faster then light
goku loses to them infinite mass punches man.
Don't be such a hypocrite.
Anon has no integrity in any discussion in which shitflinging can happen, which also means each and every comment posted on here ever. Which means that the best way to tell that a thread might be a bad one is reporting and not posting on it.
Because of that, Anon can be the best or the worst poster on this board, I doubt people like you are even capable to even guess or asume the right things about these specific factors anymore.
Ahh whatever I guess. I have yet to see a thoughtful post on here made during this year, but that should be a rather uncommon thing to happen man.
This is because people on here are pretty much considered retards. Quite obvious if you ask me.
We are within them, so thats an issue that doesn't matter.
The only winning move you can do on here is to ignore such shit.
Nigger, I can kill a baby with one punch. BAM! Right in the head, crush the motherfucker's skull just like that.
That doesn't mean I'll always kill the baby with one punch. I can throw weaker punches to a baby's body, maybe break a few ribs before ending the fight with one punch.
Saitama is the same. He can kill anything with a serious punch, but sometimes he fools around a little to make his fights a litle more interesting
>who blitzed a guy who is FTL
Lightspeed Flash is not FTL, they just call him that because most people can't see him move.
Shut up and go away, this is real men talking about real issues. Go play with your gandums somewhere else.
Saitama is so overated he takes care of what's been thrown at him but what's been thrown at him isn't jack shit compared to some of the characters compared
Goku has a lot of tricks, but we have yet to see the ceiling of Saitama's strength.
Saitama is like Demonbane. He can't fight against good, he can only fight against evil.
This is like comparing a god and a naked monkey.
You people are retarded.
The point of OPM is: someone who can beat ANYONE effortlessly. It's not a a shounen like DB.
Put Saitama against anyone you want and he wins.
Analogy of the year, all years.
Sitama's limiter is broken, no? He's without limit. He can grow stronger for the rest of infinity. That's pretty much enough to end any other character, really.
Just telling you that you are wrong here.
Think about it and you will understand as I'm not your mom.
You're saying that like exploding a planet is the same as dispersing all its matter.
Goku might explode it, but that doesn't mean it does so with enough force to actually impede the rejoint of the debris, including air.
It depends on the punch though.
Sure he can puit enough poower into a single pucnh as to defeat anything in that one strike and nothing else before, but he doesn't because he might not want to kill them (not before asking what the fuck is going on at least). and why start with full strength if most things don't require it anyway?
Is his punch magic? If it is magic then it cannot be defeated in which case he could kill Goku if he managed to land a blow. On the other hand if he just happens to be really REALLY strong he will lose.
Spoilers, if you've only been reading Murata's version of OPM and not ONE's:
Boros is a parody on Dragon Ball style villains. And his ultimate attack was an energy blast that could destroy the planet. And Saitama punched that away and made it blow up in Boros' face.
First of all - is this real?
Secondly, how does Shenron Goku measure against Bills or Whis?
Goku needs to breathe too
And as we all know, naruto doesnt need to breathe in space.
Isn't OPM's ability to win with one punch?
Not simply defeat anyone by punching them once, just punch something -- anything -- and automatically win from that.
OPM is meant to win, all the time, because he is the protagonist of his series and thus has to win.
>people still don't get the Saitama vs Garou fight
for fuck's sake
Saitama was testing Garou to see how strong he actually was, and he didn't want to kill him because he knew he wasn't really a monster, and that he had the potential to continually get stronger and possibly even challenge him. That's why he dicked around and Garou was 'able' to take several hits
If Garou had really gone full monster like he almost did at the end Saitama would have just obliterated him and been done with it.
Sounds like Kenshiro.
The only person to have killed the fight.
Not really. So far in the webcomic, there hasn't been anyone that would surely survive from the contact of one of his "serious" punch, however there has been monsters that took on several weaks punches. Even though it basically leave them to pieces.
Scary thing about Saitama isn't that there's some magic rule in the universe that can make him win. He's just trained so insanely hard that he became stronger than eveyrone in the playground.
Since when are webcomics relevant to /a/?
Because the manga is a redraw of the Webcomic and it's neccesary to speak about the Webcomic because it's much further into the story and Saitama has done more things for points to the whole thread.
I think it had less to do with Saitama training really hard and more to do with his mindset during said training
He had a birth defect that makes him violently shit his pants whenever he loses a fight?
It's a japanese webcomic, so, a webmanga I guess ?
That's the point. From his perspective he trained to the point where the only options was madness, death or success.
I have no clue why people seem to think that the fucking theme of OPM matters in a debate.
I love how the whole point of ONE's works are basically "Fuck powerlevels", and OPM has inspired more powerlevel discussions than anything I've seen.
Which is who abnt at=
It depends whose manga they fight in.
Goku would win and if you disagree with me, you are wrong.
All manga is are better drawn webcomics, the webcomic and manga versions of one punch man are pretty much the same but with different draw quality.
yes it is. He said he could get home any time he wanted when he learned teleporting in space, he just didn't want to
Did you just make that up
And the point of DBZ is someone (well, multiple people sometimes) who can grow to overcome all obstacles in their way so they can eventually win. Goku might fail sometimes, but in the end he always succeeds.
So OPM might win the first fight but Goku would come back and win eventually.
Okay, you obviously didn't read the manga well then. Go back and read it again before you even TRY providing a counter-argument cause you'll realize that Saitama Playin Around Power is not even close to Saitama Serious.
Its just Goku. You're talking about after he absorbs the Dragonballs, gains infinite power/immortality and "leaves" right?
That iteration of Goku cannot lose to anything, so yeah.
Shiki is special tier on the power charts. Shiki can suffocate very easily though.
I think the picture is more referring to how shiki is something of an "original sin" when it comes to power debates, not so much about how strong he is. Powerman defeated demonbane after all
Saitama wins guys come on. Goku is so miniscule hes not even worth mentioning when it comes to powerlevels. Goku has died so many times already that alone shows that Goku is beatable by a lot of people. To those saying Goku has bs plot armor, hate to break it to you but the whole point of OPM is that Saitama is Omnipotent level in his universe. He ends everything with his "Serious Series" moves. You mention something about Goku blowing up planets when we all know Goku will NEVER do that cos hes a whiteknight fag who wont endanger human beings. Just so you know Saitama is more than capable of blowing up the planet himself.
That was also what Garou did, kinda.
Garou was kind of a sayan: he could grew to overcome all obstacles in his way so he could eventually win. Sure, he was evilz, but he was sayanz.
T'il he met Saitama, of course. Each sayan power-up merely elevates your limit, but you're still under your limit, and that is ultimately acotated by your potential.
Saitama's over his own potential.
Goku didnt win all the fights he lost. He had other people win it for him. Also Gokus died SO MANY TIMES please stop riding Gokus dick and grow up. I dont get why all these 90's kid have a boner over Goku being "the best"
To put it more specifically though: if there is something more resistant that plot armor, it is comedic armour.
> That cocksucking of Goku.
> Failing to realize Saitama can and has kicked Sayan's expies in his serie without breaking a drop of sweat.
saiyans by default are evil
saiyans in general get stronger as they're defeated, like you mention garou does
and goku pushes beyond his limits using tricks(transformations, ki techniques) that give him powerups
saitama has no concept of powerlevels anymore, he just punches things and they lose
that's how his universe works, complete mind-over-matter
> that's how his universe works, complete mind-over-matter
>he just punches things and they lose
How many chapters of OPM before it can become a two season anime? Shounen Jump already has it, so it can be too long now. Maybe by the end of the year?
>Nigger, I can kill a baby with one punch
Prove it, faggot.
Goku's best chance would be to grab Saitama, teleport somewhere dangerous (near the sun, somewhere in space, whatever) and immediately let go and teleport away before Saitama knows whats happening. Theres no way Goku would ever do that though, partially because its not really his style but mostly because he would always at least try fighting someone straight up.
Read the manga, he punches a bunch of people without killing them.
He also punched a fucking comet and giant bullets fired from a spaceship.
I'm not saying that Goku couldn't do that or even a fuckton more, but Saitama is the most powerful being in the universe and could, if he wanted, destroy anything with a single punch.
Even super man can beat goku.
Plot armour doesn't work outside of the multi verse the MC comes from.
But can Powerman defeat GER
I'm sorry, did you missed Battle of gods?
>Saitama is the most powerful being in the universe and could, if he wanted, destroy anything with a single punch.
That's the main problem with you shits. You assume a hell of a lot. We haven't seen anything greater than pre-SS Goku from Saitama, but you all assume much more.
That isn't how it works. You work off of what has been seen, not what you hope to be the case.
This is why he's in the little special box on the power level images. We don't know what he can fully do. For all we know, he might be the most powerful physical being ever conceived. Or he's on-par with early Vegeta.
No else answered this so I will.
Shenron Goku is clearly referring to after Goku randomly absorbs the Dragonballs at the end of GT while riding on Shenron to fuck knows where.