>handing down the death penalty based on circumstantial evidence
What kind of post-apocalyptic hellhole is Japan?
Have you played Ace Attorney?
>What kind of post-apocalyptic hellhole is Japan?
The post-nuclear kind.
That is like Murrica, where black people are killed on the streets. Now switch black with wizards and street with courts and you have WB.
The kind that appearing to have an effective justice system is more important than actually having one. If the cops are having a hard time figuring out a murder, they just call it a suicide to keep their numbers up and look better.
Except in America you can't outright say that you're convicting based on circumstantial evidence.
In Japan, they don't need to pretend.
So that's why the judge didn't allow cosplay in the court.
So, is the president of the united states going to personally lead a campaign against a non-wizard for defending themselves against an enchanted wizard who had just bought ingredients to make powerful distortion potions who attacked him when he realized he was being watched from a football field's distance away?
>having a death sentence
What is this? 1888?
Guy makes terrorist threats using viruses to prove a point
Japan arrests AND gets confessions from multiple people
Guy keeps emailing them telling them they are fuckheads
Japan has a high confession rate because they basically torture you for days until you 'confess', and if you 'confess' you are automatically guilty.
Their crime rate is also 'low' because a lot of clear murders are treated as suicides, and a lot of crime is reported as accidental or not at all.
They are corrupt as fuck because "I REPORT DIS I SHAME FURMRY"
Japan will go full retard in a matter of years, pal. Ever heard of a little game series called Ace Attorney?
I never realized Ace Attorney was such an accurate portrayal.
Yeah and the fact that they rushed the court trial. They sure wanted to close case asap without caring about anything else.
>What kind of post-apocalyptic hellhole is Japan?
That kind that have a 95% conviction rate, because they will just keep you in a cell until you sign a confession.
Or rather put in 60 charges and hold you for the max time before you see a judge and the max time after you see a judge before your next charge is filed.
Japan never got the idea of British Common Law or even the pants on head retarded Continental Law. What they did was steal all the words from BCL and apply them to their classical feudal legal system, tricking people into thinking they had an unbiased and even slightly fair legal system.
Every minute the police have to waste in court is another minute they are not out on the streets, protecting the public by arresting more wizards!
Doesn't current japan let everyone free though? Like the concrete girl case or that one cannibal cook. Or are those just somewhat famous exceptions?
Japan is pretty much third world in terms of legal and societal development.
And by third world I mean "some AIDS-ridden shithole in africa or some desert country completely under the thumb of islamic extremists".
To be fair, we amerifats have a 90+% conviction rate... oh, wait.
Yeah, this pissed me off. They didn't even have much if any sakuga this ep, which is the fucking point of the show. If I wanted a retarded parody of Kafka I watch something else, I don't know what because I'd never watch it.
I forgot my point. Weak episode, I think it was.
I came for Cecil Sudou: Ace Attorney, not a 100% realistic depiction of the law.
So we all agree this should just be Ace Attorney with Wizards right
That scene with the dude yelling Objection?
That should be like, the entire show, back and forth.
With desk slamming and pointing.
Phoenix Wright: Arcane Attourney?
I wanted Law & Order: Magical Intent
>There will never be an Ace Attorney anime because Crapcom hates money
Ceciruuu Sudou: Arcane Attorney - Dual Diaboloids
There was a Movie, at least.
And Layton got some Animated Movies.
Man, I'd love a series though. It'd be like 90% inner monologues, but I wouldn't even give a shit.
Needs to be SHAFT or Ufotable.
>Crapcom hates money
Their DLC model suggests they're the jewest of jews. But their release of actual media shows that they are ultimately retarded.
>Their DLC model suggests they're the jewest of jews. But their release of actual media shows that they are ultimately retarded.
They and Toei should marry and have many lovely money grubbing tard babies.
I'm disappointed that they didn't force him to confess to knowing and murdering the deceased. How unrealistic can you get?
Seeing this dumb shit made me seriously consider dropping this.
I don't understand how good Umetsu is supposed to be.
Gave Galilei a watch, and that turned out retarded too. Is this a thing with his stuff? Just pants-on-head retarded plots?
Wizard Barristers is at least better than Galilei.
Yakusa connection. Totally different when you have a group of assholes backing you up.
Do people seriously think Ace Attorney represents the Japanese Legal System? That's just retarded. That being said it does have one of the highest if not the highest conviction rate of any country so yeah, if you get charged with anything you're kinda fucked.
>Do people seriously think Ace Attorney represents the Japanese Legal System?
No, I think it's set in the future, just like Wizard Barristers, and so the comparison isn't out of place.
Ace Attorney is HIGHLY exaggerated, but still representative of aspects within Japan's legal system.
It is set in the "future".
AA came out in 2001 and the cases are set somewhere around 2010-2012, I can't remember.
The translation could've changed the dates but I don't know why they'd do that
This happens all the time in the USA.
>What kind of post-apocalyptic hellhole is Japan?
Dude this is how japans legal system works.
90% of the convictions are from CONFESSIONS. Many confess to shit thy didnt do because of the social bullshit.
The first case of AA1 is in 2016.
The first game was set in 2016.
>Japan has a high confession rate because they basically torture you for days until you 'confess', and if you 'confess' you are automatically guilty.
>Their crime rate is also 'low' because a lot of clear murders are treated as suicides, and a lot of crime is reported as accidental or not at all.
>They are corrupt as fuck because "I REPORT DIS I SHAME FURMRY"
Yup japans legal system is a joke.
Never use stats on anything from japan. Nothing is trustworthy out of japan.
This plot was pretty dumb.
eh I was a bit off but it's been a while
That's how it works in the States too. Something like 90% of convictions are obtained via plea bargains. In the States, it's due to enormous prosecutorial discretion and our insanely immoral asset forfeiture laws.
>via plea bargains
that is not even close to the same fucking thing you moron.
i hear lean is magical.
There should be jail time for prosecutors if they knowingly misrepresent evidence.
no, anon, you were moron.
No, really. The prosecutors come to meet you, drop your sheet on the table and threaten you with life in prison for a felony and some misdemeanors. Then they tell you that the state has already put a lien on your bank accounts and seized your home and that the public defender failed the bar loses 80% of his cases.
You're going to have to give some citations for Japanese cops literally torturing people.
Laws for Minors there are lenient in the extreme.
Christ u know nothing about life at all. Any Legal system is designed to fuck up the life of the suspect/criminal. No prosecutor ever gets punished ever. Look at USA vs India IRL if you want to see a real power tripping prosecutor on the road to political stardom
a 90% conviction rate isn't a good thing. That just means whoever the police pick up is automatically guilty, and a society where the police can't be wrong is fucked.
>torture woman for weeks
>rape her over and over again
BOYS WILL BE BOYS!
I thinks its called isolation. Also sometimes Chineses suspects manage to fall over and stab themselves multiple times while in handcuffs etc
Where the fuck did I saw there were currently consequences for them? I said there should be.
Funny here in America, we tried out that death penalty cocktail on that one guy.
That's where you avoid being a dumb nigger and having a sheet to begin with and refuse to say anything without your lawyer present.
Sorry I mis read but anyway even in the land of my freedoms a great hacker was hounded to suicide for hacking a uni library
>That just means whoever the police pick up is automatically guilty
In Japan's case, it's actually because the authorities don't choose to prosecute unless they're sure they have a very strong case, mostly due to budget restrictions.
Also, if you've ever been on a jury you should know that circumstantial evidence is just as valid as direct evidence, it just usually takes more of it
Wow, like the guys in the US who manage to get a gun into the backseat of a cruiser, shoot themselves while handcuffed, then hide the gun after they've shot themselves in the head.
Like the handcuffed, tased men who get shot in the back because they're so dangerous. Or the mentally ill homeless men who are beaten to death, on camera, by pigs. Or the schizo kid who was shot in the chest by a cop while his backup held his arms; shooter said "We don't have time for this".
Fuck off with whatever trip you're on. Cops are scum, worldwide.
You ought to have expect something was up when you get sentenced to death without an appeal period.
Seriously, I hope they get sued all the way, how fucked up can you be?
Evidence is as good as the jury is stupid.
But if you shoot the nigga first, you can defend yourself with it. STAND YOUR GROUND SON.
>authorities don't choose to prosecute unless they're sure they have a very strong case
Real easy when you can torture a guy for 23 days and then try them twice for the same crime.
Japanese courts don't have a jury so it's up to the career judge to be swayed by circumstantial evidence. Also unlike the US, defendants go in with the presumption of guilt. So beyond a reasonable doubt has no meaning in the japanese regal system.
Pff I'm not the one that handed him the drink.
No, by "you" I meant "them." You know. Ohio or who the fuck ever is so eager to kill someone they fuck it up horribly and turn it into torture.
I'm saying that circumstantial evidence is valid in Common Law and jury systems, not just in Civil Law adjudication systems
They're ordinary people.
And one problem with ordinary people is that they have a tendency of throwing their wits out the window when the person who stands in the box claims to be an expert.
The legal system tried to create a fair trial for the suspect.
Although if you get convicted and sent to jail, you're fucked.
Circumstantial evidence is relevant if it builds up an argument on a relevant issue (all the evidence adds up to the point that he killed X) not just as proof of a fact (this evidence proves he did in fact kill X)
Read the replies to this post.
>presumption of guilt
Wow, I just lost a lot of respect for Japan.
"Japanese live long."
And then there is this:
'He didn't like the bank and is a wizard' was the circumstantial 'evidence, it wasn't stuff like finding a floorplan of the bank, a book on how to rob banks, he had a pair of wire-cutters on him at the time, had a known connection to the other robbers etc. that would constitute circumstantial evidence in any sort of sane court.
replace wizard with computer hacker. computer hackers get worse sentences than pedos and rapists. Cause the people in power fear them. They fear the Snowdens and shit because they don't know shit about computer.
amerifags discussing justice
>Police are allowed to detain suspects for a maximum 23 days without being charged after an arrest. After they are set free the police can re-arrest suspects keep them an additional 23 days each time they are re-arrested. Police use detainment, psychological pressure but not violence as a means of coercing confessions. Using torture to extract confessions has been outlawed since 1874, with the exception of "unavoidable cases."
>This burdening ratio, combined with Article 38’s evidence requirement over confessions, has apparently left some prosecutors feeling they have little choice but to engage in things like evidence tampering and coercion of false confessions to maintain high conviction rates.
>Japan is corrupt
>Japan has a 95% conviction rate
Welcome to civil law systems, incidentally used by most countries.
Japan really just took the shit parts of the American system; corruption, highest incarceration rate, etc; and the shit parts of various European systems; civil law style high conviction rates, etc.
Scandinavia and Aus/NZ are the only sane places.
>computer hackers get worse sentences than pedos and rapists
Not even slightly true.
>Detained suspects are kept in small holding cells known as daiyo kangoku (substitute prisons) with little exposure to the outside world. Suspects can be questioned at any time, for any length of time, without food , breaks or a lawyer. Suspects have said they been subjected to 12-hour interrogations in which they were handcuffed and tied to their chairs. A Japanese lawyers group have called the set up “a breeding ground of confession coercion and false accusations” where suspects are subject to a “type of interrogation” that “causes heavy mental suffering...and can be considered torture.”
> In one case twelve defendants accused of using beer and cash to buy votes were told they and their children would be fired from the jobs unless they confessed. One defendant was held for a total of 395 days. Another was so intimidated by the process he tried to drown himself. The 12 were acquitted even though six confessed, with the judge ruling they probably confessed “to please the investigators, as they desperately wanted to be released.”
Probably Anon is thinking China.
the Trayvon Martin case showed me how stupid the American legal system can be. At least Zimmerman got his not guilty. But holy shit, everyone on the prosecution committed blatant perjury and nobody gave a fuck.
Well not for long.
Daily Telegraph is on a 'tough on crime' campaign to introduce mandatory sentencing in response to street violence.
We've been bitching about our own system plenty, if you butthurt monkeys would bother to read the thread.
Let's ask his victims how they felt about that oh wait. If only the cocktail lasted longer...
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I remember being in a class once and we were having a debate about China.
As soon as the topic of crime came up, the Liberal people in the class started yammering in favor of the death penalty.
Can someone explain that whole ordeal to me? Not being an American my only accounts on it are South Park and Wikipedia, neither of which are particularly reliable.
>using revenge as an excuse to give authorities the power to torture
As primitive as it is stupid. Sasuga /pol/tards.
Be careful what you wish for.
dumb nigger in the wrong neighborhood fighting back mexican vigilante with a gun gets shot.
Jumpy Hispanic guy with a gun shot a black teenager that might or might not have threatened him. It exploded into a "white on black crime" shitstorm, even though the Zim Zam is clearly Hispanic.
Basically Zimmerman is an angry asshole who probably started shit with Trayvon, but there were no witnesses and he (Z) was getting his ass beat when he shot T, so the evidence supports self-defense.
But before all the facts came out the "liberals" (which I am one, so I consider them fakes) in the media started fabricating a narrative where the racist gun fanatic stalked and murdered an innocent little boy because he was black.
And if you don't know what the media is like when it wants to make one of its shitty narratives, go back and read the daily howler archives. US media is shit, total shit. Most of the time it isn't even liberal, despite what the conseritards say. Basically as bad as you could reasonably imagine.
Even though He probably wasn't guilty, George Zimmerman is clearly mentally unstable. Also, the reason there was a trial was because of the shitty handling of the murder scene by the police in the first place.
>not Special Wizards Unit
Fuck I hope those cg mechs don't show up too often. I just want investigations, trials, muggle cops and wizard criminals.
I didn't come here for mech fights.
>not Sorcerer's Victims Unit
Black teenager looking drugged passes by neighbor watch, he follows him as there were robberies in recent times. Trayvon outruns him but returns and attacks Zimmerman, bashing his head on concrete. Zim Zam shoots him, Trayvon dies. Police release him as it was a case of self defense. Blacks go crazy and Zimmerman is sent to trial. Unable to convict him and despite all the evidence, witnesses and focus on past the prosecution tried to pull they are still unable to get a guilty sentence because it was self defense and not a murder. Trayvon's parents get super rich, Zim Zam walks, /pol/ celebrates.
>George Zimmerman is clearly mentally unstable
The psychiatrists working on the case couldn't prove shit about Zimmerman.
>Jumpy Hispanic guy with a gun shot a black teenager that might or might not have threatened him.
It's actually pretty well established by both witnesses and his injuries that Trayvon was doing more than just threatening, he was actually assaulting Zimmerman when he got shot.
This is galilei donna of this season right?
Oh alright, I didn't follow the case closely since I'm from Europe. It's interesting to see though how riled up the black rights activists were even after the verdict.
Yeah, pretty much all the evidence suggests that Trayvon was on top of George when he was shot.
I'm European as well, but I followed it closely, even watched the trial. Anyways, it's not the black rights activists, it was everyone who was forcefed that Trayvon was victim of white on black discrimination. Rap songs were made, shirts were printed, I am Trayvon Martin paroles were shouted.
Yeah, the bullet entrance angle pretty much proves it.
God fuck that judge.
It was the Kony bullshit all over again. Someone starts with "b-but the children!" and thousands buy merchandise.
He has serious fucking anger issues.
Can't even compare what Trayvon had. Criminal record, constant fights in school and outside of it, robbery cases, drug abuse and was expelled from school on top of it.
Well Kony wasn't exactly innocent, but since he had lost the war by that time they started their videos and was in hiding from almost literally every goverment on earth I don't know what the hell they wanted out of that campaign.
>those glorious /pol/ threads during the trials and all the oc
One of the few good things to happen in that shithole
It was to save the oil in Africa, right. American special forces don't go nowhere (ie Syria) without oil
>bullet entrance angle pretty much proves
Do you even Kennedy?
How the fuck do you not get that? Even foreigners should get that.
Trayvon being a shit doesn't mean Zimmerman doesn't have issues, but then again a drunken altercation with an undercover policeman trying to stop his friend drinking in his youth and an ex-wife lying about being threatened with a gun don't point to much. I guess the November incident is a bit more damning but the gf has said the police got her statement wrong and wants the charges lifted so it's not that conclusive,
zimzam still had no right to shoot him
that trigger-happy spic went on to beat his wife after the trial and walk around with a shotgun in his trunk, he got arrested again or so I heard
Just explain it to me.
When a guys straddling you and beating you in the face you have every right to shoot them.
After the legal events Zimmerman probably has bank. Girlfiend/slut wants some money, Arguement entails cops get called etc.
Anyway more interesting sniper on a grassy knoll?
Specially if his black or sandnigger or a roid rager in Sydney
The angle the bullet entered his body suggests that trayvon was on top of zimmerman, which supports zims claim that he was being beaten on the ground
Fucking JFK? Explain JFK to you?
This is beyond spoonfeeding this is wiping retard ass.
Think about this. If the Zim Zam had be tried in a nip court, he probably would be on death row right now.
No, I like this system.
Fuck traitors and rapists, send them all to hell!
Not if he was Japanese having dealt with a filthy gajin. Hell if was a filthy gajin/korean/chinses comfort woman he could even rape her first
>death row in Japan
>for killing a nigger
But he wasn't, and he's free, which he should be.
He would be put to jail in Eastern European country as well, but that's only because the law considers self defense as a murder.
Can't even shoot the robber that broke into your home about to kill you because you'd be the guilty one.
Alright, this shit is too fucking /pol/. Last wizard barristers thread ever. If they don't bring back the sakuga shit's fucking dropped.
>because the law considers self defense as a murder
It's pretty much the same in Japan. Self defense isn't a guaranteed right like in the US. The judge can rule that you probably shouldn't be sentenced because it was self defense but there is no obligation.
So if her mom was sentenced to death why is she still alive? The other guy in episode 1 was executed on the spot.
Plot important characters get an appeals process. Check out their legal charter.
So let me get this straight. Japan has:
>conviction by circumstantial evidence
>conviction by confession, extracted by torture
>conviction by tampering with evidence
>one false accusation is enough to get you arrested
>presumption of guilt
>massive under-reporting of crimes
>lax laws for minors even in severe cases
>police not pursuing real criminals due to budgetary constraints(?)
Holy shit remind me never to get arrested if I ever visit that radioactive wasteland.
They contrast these serious looking character designs with a purple haired genki girl. They contrast SERIOUS COURT PROCEEDINGS with purple girl playing cop. It wants to be a series about barristers, yet the only good thing about it is the animation of the action sequences.
Worst anime this season? After Sonico.
Their whole charter makes me mad as fuck.
>Magic in the defense of social justice is allowed
/pol/ was right again!
Article 10 will get you free! Every single episode!
/pol/ isn't pro-torture you dumbfuck
>conviction by tampering with evidence
It happens but it's still illegal so it happens at a rate higher than most other first world countries but lower than third world.
He's thinking of the NSA whistleblowers before Snowden.
>liberals blatantly lie and misrepresent the facts
>oh they're just fake liberals
I think they mean social justice as in
>Defend the defenseless
>Help the ones in need. Like the victim of a car crash
He's talking about the reddit co-founder who killed himself.
>n July of 2005, when he was 21, Zimmerman was arrested after shoving an undercover alcohol-control agent while a friend of Zimmerman's was being arrested for underage drinking. The officer alleged that Zimmerman had said, "I don't care who you are," followed by a profanity, and had refused to leave the area after the officer had shown their badge.
So he shoved some cop while drunk... obviously mentally unstable. /sarc
>Stop making anime about things I don't like
But Sonico is the evangelion of the wake up girls genre.
>one cannibal cook
He had a rich daddy. It's the same everywhere in that regard.
One went around blowing up people and that one person is not the MC's mother.
>the pants on head retarded Continental Law
>conviction by circumstantial evidence
Everyone has that, do you people even know what circumstantial evidence is?
They also send you to jail for minor copyright infringement.
As if the MPAA (Jews) don't want that for everyone around the world
Compared to common law, civil law trials are a farce when a conviction is dependent solely on the whims of one person.
Trials are a farce when a conviction is dependent on the whims of some people they picked off the streets. Why not just turn over the guy to an angry mob instead of wasting taxes?
In common law you don't even know if what you are doing is illegal or not by simply looking at the legal code. Instead you have to know dozens of years worth of legal history and precedents.
I haven't watched this, but I read that MC is supposed to save her mom from the death sentence right? Maybe MC will end up confronting the system's shittiness. Around ep10 her mom is executed anyway, and the last episodes are about changing the law so nobody else is killed that way.
HS trolled you.
Quote from page 133:
"In preparing for courtroom testimony, witnesses are coached by their lawyers. Often, they are made to repeat the story over and over again, until they get it 'right'. Then, on the stand what they remember is the story they've been telling in the lawyer's office. The nuances have been shaded. Or it may no longer correspond, even in its major features, to what really happened. Conveniently, the witnesses may have forgotten that their memories were reprocessed."
>Maybe MC will end up confronting the system's shittiness
That might be asking for too much. This will probably be more like Legally Blonde.
So when will she get her tits out for her dickings. This is by the guy that made Mezzo Forte right
Yeah and Kite but he isn't the writer for this one.
So why do people think it's weird again that women never fight back in their porn when the legal system is completely shit?
Japan is such a shit society. But as long as they deliver loli hentai, it's all ok. If the recent Comic Megastore arrest leads to permanent increase of censorship, we should consider dropping another bomb, though.
Asia in general is much more brutal when it comes to this. They don't give a crap about human rights when it comes to criminals.
And it's a good thing. Rapists and murderers deserve all the shit they get.
Also, Japan has the lowest crime rates on the planet. When you commit a serious crime media are all over it and you are fucked.
> Like the concrete girl case
They were underage. Blame west for forcing these retarded laws on everyone. It's like that everywhere.
France fucked up this one. Extradition procedures were not completed properly. His lawyers jumped at it. That's why he's free.
>Also, Japan has the lowest crime rates on the planet.
We've discussed multiple times in this thread how those statistics are skewed by the classification of unsolved murders as suicides.
>When you commit a serious crime media are all over it and you are fucked.
Are you saying that's a good thing? What's why there's such a rampant amount of false convictions and lives being ruined even if you are innocent here in the west.
They are wizards. They are supposed to look different and crazier than normal people.
You realize that your idea of "justice" and "self-defense" gives all involved parties in a physical struggle the right to murder one another, right? About the "he was hitting him" part, not the home invasion part.
Liberalism doesn't have a "we get a free pass to lie" clause. Well, not officially, at least, anything a libtard says is still an obvious lie.
it's a retarded moe show with a side of legal work
Except anyone who makes real research on the subject disagree. Police makes mistakes and do retarded shit all around the world. Japan is no worse.
These articles about the horrible unreported crime in Japan are just bullshit.
>Jake Adelstein, who worked for 12 years on the crime beat of the Yomiuri Shimbun, believes crime stories are essentially a cheap and dependable alternative to other types of stories.
>“The Personal Privacy Laws have made investigative journalism very burdensome and expensive, and a flood of court decisions against the media in libel cases further put a damper on edgy articles,” says Adelstein. “Articles on crime fill the gaps, and mistakes can be blamed on the police. Thus, it’s safe and cheap. It’s economics at work.”
Conviction rate is so high in Japan because prosecution drops charges when they know they won't win. As opposed to USA where verdict is decided by a random mob and prosecutors turn the courtroom into circus.
I hope Japan doesn't consider it rape to open a door for somebody.
No, he wouldn't. I know of cases like that in Poland. You can kill people in self defense.
>Conviction rate is so high in Japan because prosecution drops charges when they know they won't win.
No, then they tamper with evidence.
>dat evil japanese legal system
766 people were sentenced to death in Japan since the end of WW2. 129 are on the death row now.
In 2013 in USA 39 inmates were executed. And 3,108 are on the death row.
Please stop being retarded /a/.
>implying the USA is not evil too
US legal jurisprudence is much more varied than that. From what I understand of the Japanese court and system, it's pretty uniform throughout the country. In the US, based on hierarchy and state vs federal level, you'll face with different legal threats. For example, if you get tried in a New York state court you don't have to contend with the death penalty but in a Texan court it's a serious possibility. So if you leave out the state which are killing factories:
I'm sure you'd have a better picture than Japan.
But I also agree with >>100595615
Just because the US is bad doesn't automatically negate Japan being a shit.
39 deaths a year x 50 years = 2000
The population of Japan is 1/3rd of the US
750 x 3 = roughly 2000
It ended 70 years ago, anon.
Oh my god you're right
Depents on the country, but usually it's not that simple.
At least the judge is a trained lawman, and not a Jury consisting basically of random idiots from the streets.
>police can hold you for a couple of weeks with no conviction or evidence
>highest conviction rate (hint: that's not a good thing)
>you are fucked
Unless you murder and cannibalize women, in which case you become a celebrity and write books while giving food reviews.
Even Africa is more civilized than Japan
He's free because France fucked up.
130 people on death row vs over 3000 people on death row.
In a lot of states being on death row is basically life in prison. Unless you did something really bad, most states won't execute you. This does not apply in Texas.
>And it's a good thing. Rapists and murderers deserve all the shit they get.
Why do they deserve "all they get", by which I assume you mean extreme punishment like death sentences or torture? Are there no exceptions?
I hate this unreflected arrogance and these uncompromising stances so much.
Also it ignore the inevitable innocents being accused.