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Would he cheer for Shirou or Illyasviel?
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>>100539212

Shirou.
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Neither. He didn't want Shirou to become a magus and he hates Seiba, and he wouldn't like how Ilya went psycho.
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Maiya
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>>100539212
Depend on the route, he would murder HF Shirou without a second thought.
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>>100539212
For none. He's dead.
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would he be proud of his adoptive son?
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>>100539364

How so?
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>>100539364
try to.

Knowing the writing there'd be some sort of showdown.

essentially when he's in the park choosing between Mind of Steel & Sakura he's "killing off" what remained of Kiritsugu's dream
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>>100539385
Lives lost vs Lives Won. He's a Utilitarian

I mean he shot Ilya within the grail without hesitation
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>>100539587
not to mention his father, "mom," etc. to be fair though he knew that it was the grail and not his actual wife and kid
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>>100539382
No
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>>100539698
Yeah, but its all representative how he won't let anything [Read: Even Family] stand in the way of his ideals. even if they're flawed.

at least that's how I took it
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>Implying Kirei could even compete against HF Shirou

Nigga's a fucking servant.
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>>100539881
and for all that he accomplished nothing. Couldn't even KO his own nemesis.
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>>100539273
>he wouldn't like how Ilya went psycho.
Why, she became a murderous bitch just like her dad. Like father, like daughter. Should be proud.
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>>100540158
Except he actually felt remorse for the killings
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>>100539212

None, because he's a terrible father.
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>>100540205
Doesn't make him less of a murderous bitch.
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>>100540205

Nah, "muh ideals" too strong.
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>>100540300
He showed a lot of remorse after killing what's her face
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>>100539974
Sort of.. kid was losing his mind trying to do what archer could
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>>100540502
>what's her face
fast wheels?
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>>100539212
Neither. He'd stop both from even participating in the grail war.
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>>100539587
Because he knew its not her dumbshit.
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>>100539382
I don't think Kerry knew that Shirou was insane
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>>100540669
read
>>100539881

>>100540056
too busy trying to save at least one life (shirou), so he could feel it was all for something.
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I think he'd be pretty proud of Fate and UBW Shiro even if he didn't want him to be a magus
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>>100540821
>insane

I think all his problems stem from how dense he is and he's being a hero the only way he knows how
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Kiritsugu is sadness
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Kerry a shit
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>>100541245
Saber a shit
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>>100541087
Shirou a hero
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>>100542057
Shiki and Shirou buddy cop spinoff when
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>>100542824
yes pls
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>>100542824
next carnival phantasm
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>>100542057
Woah, when the fuck did they meet? Is this Carnival Phantasm?
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>>100540833
He would be proud of HF Shirou for actually doing something that he couldn't (save both the world AND his waifu).

But in the end, he would be proud of Fate Shirou as well for giving God the middle finger and breaking into Avalon while retaining his soul to be with his waifu.
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He would shoot shirou for turning into a guido
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>>100543001
Yes.

this particular scene is them deciding to date every single possible love interest at the same time
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>>100543001
No, it's UBW After. This is when Shirou meets Shiki before becoming Aacha.
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>>100543041
thanks
>>100543042
oh desire
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>>100543026
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>implying Shirou isn't gay
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>>100543002
maybe at the end game. But before that, Shirou lets several hundreds die so he could take care of his waifu.
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>>100539587
Dumbass, HF is what Kiritsugu always wished he could do. He honestly wished with all his heart to be able to pick his family in that moment at the end with the grail, but he was too much of a pragmatist and he knew it was the right choice otherwise, so he took the shot. After all if he had given in Angya would have been born and killed everyone, and it's not like that was the real Ilya anyway.

Kiritsugu just wanted his son to be happy, he didn't want hiim to follow his path here and make the same mistakes, if Shirou became Archer then he did make the same mistakes, but Kiritsugu accidentally left a small curse behind with his dying words. Not an actual curse mind you, it's just he thought Shirou was safe in those final moments, he believed Shirou would not make the same mistakes, so he uttered "I'm glad" and then silently passed on when Shirou said he would succeed him. Shirou took that to mean that he had to become a hero now at any cost, and thus he ended up making a few of the same mistakes as he devoted himself single-mindedly for an ideal while becoming devoid of joy as he was just a tool.

Heaven's Feel is what Kiritsugu wished he could have done but absolutely could never had made such a choice himself due to his nature, but he would be glad that Shirou found a normal happiness and managed to save Ilya in the end. Even if it was just his mother, Kiritsugu wished he could have chosen her rather than everyone else, but that's not how he works. Ever since he tried to spare Shirley and everyone was killed because of this he was mind-fucked into no longer hesitating in those situations a bit.
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>>100543122
He didn't know that Sakura was Shadow until at least day eleven near the very end.
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>>100543002
He also gave middle finger to alaya, gaia, the cycle of reincarnation, Ado Edem, ORT, Type Jupiter, Type Saturn, Crimson Moon, Archetype Earth, Type Pluto, Type Venus, Primate Murder, Original Roa, Angra Mainyu, Zelretch, Counter Guardian, Gilgamesh, Arcueid, Dark Sakura, Dark Saber, Lancelot, Saber, 5th Berserker, Roa Elesia, Dark Berserker, 4th Caster, 4th Lancer, 5th Lancer, 5th Caster, 4th Rider, 5th Rider, Nrvnqsr, Clairvoyant Fujino, Kurogiri, Archer, Kouma, 5th Assassin, 4th Assassin, Aoko, Barthomeloi, Kojirou, Ciel, "Ryougi Shiki", Soren Araya, Gun God (Black Barrel), Touko, El-Melloi, Night of Wallachia, Sion Tatari, Melty Blood Satsuki, R.Shiki, Akiha, Fujino, 18th Roa, SHIKI, Arba (potentially), Heaven’s Feel Shirou, Kiri, Nanaya, Reinforced Kuzuki, Sion, UBW Shirou, Waver, Bazett, Avenger, Rin, Kotomine, Zouken, Luvia, Kiritsugu, Irisviel, Maiya, Arba (usually), Leysritt, Tsukihime Satsuki, Lio, Avalon Shirou, Sakura, Ilya, Kariya, Len, Kirie, Caren, Meruka, The Dead, Possessed Corpse, Azaka, Misayo, Dragon Tooth Warrior, Fuji-nee, Fake Shiki, Shinji, Ryuunosuke, Tomoe, Gun God (unequipped), Hisui and Kohaku.
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>>100543311
Here's to hoping you copy/pasted that
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>>100543195
You're probably right.


On a side note I still think UBW Shirou might not be so bad in his eyes.

He followed Kiritsugu's dream, and while Archer felt it was wrong in a way similar to Kiritsugu. Shirou Idealized it with a beauty that it made that dream seem like a good thing.
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>>100543256
Went back and read that part over again

The reason he had to break away from his ideals and save Sakura was more "Sakura has a condition placed upon her where she has to actively and seriously fight in the grail war to live or else she's eaten alive by a worm on the inside, the worm is constantly eating away at her prana along with Rider, she must fight and fight to win to not be in constant pain, however if she fights people might get hurt, maybe Rider will set up Bloodfort and people will be injured in order to give Sakura mana, thus Shirou cannot take that chance and must take her out before innocent people just might be hurt since she is now a competitor, since despite being an innocent and being forced to fight she still might injure someone and that means she must die before that happens"

It's crazy that this is an idea that forces him to nearly abandon his ideals honestly. It had nothing to do with Shadow, it's just that Sakura was forced to fight earnestly in order to survive, in doing so "might" be forced to kill someone to live herself eventually, and thus it's better to take her out now. That's what Rin and Shirou killed Sakura over in Mind of Steel, the possibility that she could hurt someone as a competitor in the Grail War, and the chance that she could become Zouken's puppet. So Rin herself noted the main reason she was going to finish her was to lure out Zouken himself in order to put a stop to him, and to prevent any potential losses in town. It just seems like a very "They really aren't thinking this through" kind of moment.
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>>100543692
Kiritsugu would probably see Archer as a very sour note on the one thing he thought he did right in his life at the very end.
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>>100540590
>stop
By killing them, right?
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>>100543864
Of course. It's Kerry we are talking about.
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>>100544030
He doesn't needlessly kill come on fellas give him some credit
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>>100543733
Oh damn you're right.

Still by breaking Kiritsugu's ideal at this point he ends up with an incredible amount of people dead over one girl.
Kiritsugu's pragmatism MIGHT have something to say about that, though not something hateful.

I was going to go over UBW again, but I guess I should re-read HF too so I can re-read on those details.
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>>100544086
Yeah, right
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>>100540545
Probably Natale.
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>>100544086
>Oh hey bro I see that you're crippled and cant use magic, why dont we sign a soul pact that says you can't hurt me and also you have to forfeit the holy grail war.
>or you know I can kill your shitty fiance.
>alllright, coool I'm glad we're in agreement. TAKE THE SHOT MAYA

Honestly Kayneth got what he deserved
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>>100544358
Fast wheels was a pretty influential person and he still had command seals (not certain feel free to fact check) so could've formed another contract. Plus Kerry would've been crippled by the contract
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>>100543351
>Being this new

But yeah, Fate Shirou is badass. He found out the perfect way to avoid soul degradation.
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>>100545040
I always thought UBW shirou was cooler.

He fought servants using his own strength.

Mind you there were a lot of insane factors going into this but the kid FOUGHT SERVANTS.
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>>100545299
UBW Shirou is my favourite, but Fate Shirou did something no other person in the Nasuverse could except for Celestials.
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>>100545365
Fracis Drake sailed into Avalon once

She's renowned as the person who can make miracles into reality after all, so doing the impossible is something that can undeniably be realized.
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>>100545365
>>100543311

I dont get some of these...

Wasn't shirou mainly background except when he threw away avalon and projected excalibur?
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>>100545478
It's like you have no idea what actually happened
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>>100545478
It doesn't matter. The most important thing is that mai waifu should get a happy together forever ending with a character I self-insert into.
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>>100540056
>saved the world
>accomplished nothing

What
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>>100545629
He didn't save anything, only murdered the whole district including Shirou's parents with his incompetence.
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>>100545758
He prevented Gil/Kirei from acquiring the Grail. That basically amounts to saving the world.
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>>100545570
I meant during the fights, he was important during character development.

>>100545592
The shipping is strong but
A. Do you REALLY wanna self insert into some dense kid who had to be taught how to have a good time.

B. Saber's kind of plain dont you think? I mean I think its adorable when she drops the knight act in front of Shirou and she gets all cutesy and starts to blush. But her substance is really in the growth she experiences as Shirou's partner
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>>100545758
You realize the alternative to Kiritsugu winning was Kotomine winning, right?
Have you... thought that one out at all?
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>>100545629
>fought a war that ended with his wife and compadre dying
>ended with status quo + half a city being burned down
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>>100545758
He stopped Angya from being born

Anyone else would have just made the wish and killed far more in the end, he chose not to do so.
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>>100545838
>ended with status quo instead of Angra Manjew's adventures
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>>100545904
>implying that wouldn't be fun to watch
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>>100545828
Not the other guy, but I haven't played F/HA. Exactly how evil is Avenger?
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>>100545798
>>100545828
They intended to destroy it in front of Kerry. Would have been glorious.

>>100545895
Just like everyone in F/SN endings amirite
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>>100539364
Prior to the 4th Grail War, yes.

Post the 4th Grail War, if he was in the same condition physically as prior to it and was capable of such, maybe not.
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>>100541080
>I think all his problems stem from how dense he is
Shirou's problems come from Kerry. If Kerry never accidentally implanted MUST SAVE EVERYONE into Shirou's head or even didn't start the fire at all, Shirou would have been fine living with his parents.
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>>100545422
Her version of Avalon is not the same as Seibah's, so we don't know what happens there.

>>100545478
What
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>>100545926
It would amount to Gil and Kirei riding around Angra drinking wine and grinning like idiots while discussing pleasure (forgot the moon word they actually used).

I would watch it, yes.
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>>100545939
Not too evil, but that's because he took over Shirou and Shirou is a pretty swell guy. Angry Manjew, the unconscious plob, is pretty evil.
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>>100545812
>Do you REALLY wanna self insert into some dense kid who had to be taught how to have a good time.
Yes. It's for mai waifu, for the fuck's sake.
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>>100546084
Ahhhhh okay.
That explains the resemblance.

Ty.
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>>100546053
Fund it
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>>100545939
Almost zero percent evil

He was just a scapegoat for others to call evil as he was sacrificed by his village, and while he still hates humans he does love the world. He bears the name of All the Evils in the World because what he represented for people, the wish engraved upon him that he was sacrificed for which tainted the grail, but not for his own nature. He's something of a Wriath who has lost all sense of self long ago, but he chose to create the Ataraxia world to save Bazett on a whim of sorts due to another coincidence that happened a the same time.

The wish to kill all humans is just something given to him, it's his duty, but it holds no bearing towards him in a way as it's not his desire but the desire given to him by others. Still it's hard to say he's entirely nice in his ways, after all who would be after all he's been through.
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>>100545939
He's not really actively evil, more along the lines of "no morals, accepts anything". Only thing limiting him is that he's possessing Shirou(sort of) and Shirou won't LET him do evil in some cases.
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I want a Carnival Phantasm with the Fate/Zero cast.

Tohsaka & Shirou date night watched over in stealth by Kerry the Wingman and Tokomine the Cockblocker
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>>100546238
As a very special kind of wraith he only gains a sense of self when attached to something. Such as Iri, Sakura, or Shirou in various sections. His true self is something long since lost.
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>>100546017
And then Gilgamesh/Kirei would've won the Grail War, or Manjew/Sakura.
Ingenious.
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>>100546277
>Tokomine

I meant Tokiomi!

Though the Tokiomi + Kotomine team might do better working together
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>>100546277
You "Kerry the disapproving dad".
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>>100546277
Along with the Fate Extra and Apocrypha cast because I really want to see the Kotomine brothers interact and Anderson and Shakespeare conflict
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>>100546391
You mean*
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>>100546391
Hehe
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Do people view Shirou and Archer as separate characters or do they treat them the same? They're the same to me.
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>>100546435
I want a Nakata section.
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>>100546391
oh god i wish there were more
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>>100546277
Shouldn't the first bubble be "I" instead of "he"?
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>>100546537
Man, Fate/Zero sure was a sausage fest.
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>>100546537
Jesus christ this art, what's wrong with her head?

>>100546374
Jesus christ, why is his torso so short?
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>>100546519
Completely different.

UBW Shirou and hairdown-chillaxed-Archer are the closest. In his "natural state", Archer is True Neutral that is nothing like any of the Shirous.
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>>100546602
Only compared to F/SN
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>>100546277
>>100546391
Do you have the Family Reunion one with both Emiya and Shirou?

You know... those ones that never fail to make you cry.
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>>100546640
Try with "only compared to 80% anime"
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>>100546724
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>>100546724
Keep shitty fanfics elsewhere.
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>>100546519
Archer is an interesting character. He's Shirou who was forced by the world to become a Counter Guardian. His role was to go around killing people at key points in history to stop calamities from happening. So basically he was forced to be a Kiritsugu and become a machine for the greater good, which pains him greatly because he wanted to be a superhero who could save everyone.
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>>100546724
Something like this exists?


ooh I want the Kerry/Shirou Dad-Son feels!
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>>100546537
Waver is the cutest.
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>>100546099
>Yes. It's for mai waifu, for the fuck's sake.
Dunno if you're more disgusting or more idiotic
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>>100546780
Nah, not that one. That one with "You've grown tall"
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>>100546728
>Kiritsugu Emiya
>Having the hots for Saber
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>>100546724
Ah, now I found it.
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>>100546884
He's making more of a "Pffftahahah you look ridiculous!" face.
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Fin
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>>100540205
Sure he did
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>>100546808

Not just that too, but he was always too late due to the requirements for the world to interfere. People were already dying when he's allowed to be used
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>>100547010
Saved them. Thanks.
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>>100547033
Okay he doesn't against shitheads like Wheels but against his "mom" and wife
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>>100547033
You gotta get him smoking the cigarette, its not the order of things but I think it injects humor the situation.

>>100547010
needs color I can hardly tell whats going on
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>>100547033
I feel so sorry for him. He was really looking forward to that duel. We'll never get to see those other worlds or ghosts or traps put to use.

Fuck you Kerrytugu.
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>>100547160
Was F/Z your first Urobuchi story?
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>>100547144
Was I the only one who thought that was against Kiritsugu's way of doing things? If he really thought that the end justified the means, then he would have blown the thing with people inside to ensure that the target had no chance to escape.
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>>100546950
I say Kotomo does that face more
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>>100547272

Didn't he have the staff evacuate everyone?
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>>100547160
You have to understand Kayneth's flaw is his hubris.

He felt entitled to it because of his position as a mage.

Kerry is the perfect guy to take him down, because it goes against everything Kayneth believes about how the world works. Not to mention a 2-bit mage taking out a Master? He'd never dream of it
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>>100547257
No, I don't see why that means I can't pity or sympathize with other characters even though I know suffering is inevitable.
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>>100547136
>but against his "mom" and wife
Would his "mom" be the mage that raised him or that chick on the island that got herself killed? Which he then decided to blame on his dad
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>>100547272
Kerry is a Utilitarian not an Idiot.

If there's a way that he can prevent casualties he will.

I mean he's got the resources to
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>>100547272
He set of the fire alarm before he blew up the building and gave everyone time to evacuate

So they lived but lost their home, belongings and possible everything else
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>>100547380
You don't seem so sympathetic when it comes to Kiritsugu.
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>>100547364
>He felt entitled to it because of his position as a mage.
He was entitled to anything. He got to where he was by hard work and was promised a war with honourable duels to show who was the better man. It's not his fault that the three families are trolls and Kiritsugu is a dick.
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>>100547444
He is both.

And he is too dumb to prevent casualties most of the time.
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>>100547346
>>100547444
>>100547479

What I am saying is that it almost seems unlikely of him to make everyone evacuate instead of just blowing everything up.

For what Kerry knows, it might have been the alarm that got Waga Aru G the time/idea to prepare the mercury blob that saved his life.
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>>100547479
Nope.

It was a simple hotel the one who lost everything was director of this building
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>>100547589
Not that anon, but no wonder because Kiritsugu is not written in sympathetic way. Doesn't help that the most of other F/Z characters are.
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>>100547364
What really gets me about Kayneth is that even what happened in the hotel he busts into Kerry's mansion and STILL expects an honorable duel. And then even after that, expecting Kerry to legitimately follow through honestly on the contract.


I'm not sure if I find his naivety there endearing or disappointing.
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>>100547272
No, going back to the plane- he had to destroy everyone on the plane because they were ghouls. The people in the tower were innocent and he made his best effort to keep them out of harms way. I think this example speaks clearly about his priorities.
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>>100547589
Fate/Zero is a light novel about a man named Kiritsugu who goes out of his way to ruin the lives of others with out any ounce of pity for his victims. How is anyone supposed to feel sympathy for him?
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>>100547707
None of the characters in F/Z are particularly sympathetic as they all have huge flaws that make them unlikeable. Only team Rider is spared from this, and that's because Waver was Urobutcher's pet.
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>>100547700
What of the poor people forgot their wallets and passports?
>Worst vacation ever. First the hotel I lived in blows up where I forgot my passport and wallet, then my kids goes missing and then a giant fire starts that almost burned down the down and I got serious lung injuries
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>>100543068

I have seen this image nearly every day of my life for probably about 5 years now.

It still hasnt gotten old.
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>>100546564
There's this, but I haven't found a translation yet.
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>>100547821
>Kiritsugu
>ruin the lives of others

don't you mean Kirei Kotomine?
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>>100547621
Did you completely gloss over the part where Kerry himself questions whether it was a good idea to issue an evacuation warning prior to bombing the hotel?

In his own words, he was "getting soft".
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>>100547823
Are you implying that it's only possible to sympathize with flawless mary-sues?
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>>100547829
Oh God... that was funny

They need to make a short OVA about this
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>>100547919
Was that in LN? I didn't remember it, if so.
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>>100547934
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>>100548041
Well, that's a new one.
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>>100547909
At least Kotomine knew he was evil. He knew he was doing bad things and he did it for fun. Meanwhile Kiritsugu had managed to brainwash himself into believing he was a hero saving the world, when really all he did was fuck with other people and everything they loved. Did you miss his plan to snipe Waver? He was gonna do it, right in front of those old people who believed Waver was their grandson. That's not heroic, that's just fucking cold.
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>>100547931
No, just that most of the F/Z cast were unlikeable. Learn to read.
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>>100548291
Woah there bud
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>>100548365
He said most

Not all, but most
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>>100548238
Idealism only gets you so far. Characters like Kiritsugu and Emiya-Archer don't have the luxury of plot armor. They can't save everybody, so they just do what they can to secure net gains for humanity.
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>>100548291
>waver unlikable
>kotomineXgilgamesh broforce unlikable (
>kariya unlikable

Ryunnoske is probably the only overly edgy character I liked in anime simply because of his relationship with bluebeard
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>>100548238
Did you miss the part where Kid Kerry tried to be a superhero, and then everyone died?
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>>100548527
Not only as kid. Because he was too dumb to learn his lesson as a kid.
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>>100548527
Thats your standard origin for a superhero

You want to save everyone because everyone died
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>>100548518
>Kariya
>Likeable

Maybe if you sympathize with "nice guys" who become obsessed with women only do good things because they think it will get them pussy.
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>>100548365
It's like you didn't even read my first post nor that one.

>>100548518
I'll give you Kirei, and even that's very opinionated, but Gil? Nah.

>Kariya
Judging from /a/'s reaction, there is at least a 50% split on him.
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>>100548742
Lancer seems to be into this
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>>100548739
Reminds me of that dude who was honoured to paint this girl's toenails in public as she put it on FB and everyone had a laugh at his expense.
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>>100548518
Kirei and Gil made Fate/Zero for me.

Rider was all right, but I don't feel like lionizing him like some people do.
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Glen is best Fate/Zero
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>>100548742

>that Sakura to Rin switch

Even as a loli, Sakura was a slut
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>>100547612
Wheels thought nothing of hard work, he was all about blood lineage and stuff. If anything, Waver was the only non-psychopath in the war, he was just trying to prove himself.
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>>100540158
All of his killing is targeted. At the very worst he's a cold hearted killer.
Illya turns into a fucking sadist, which he would not be cool with.
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>>100550243
Waver and Rider are the only ones that can be cheered for with no second thoughts
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>>100550820
Agreed.
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Both. I want a little sister spinoff where Kiritsugu didn't die, and lives together with Illya and Shirou, and the latter two fall in love.
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>>100551518
>wanting to watch "but we're not blood-related" garbage.
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>>100551518
Oh come on man
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>>100551460
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>>100551518
Nah, faggot deserved to die.
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>>100539212

Which Emiya are we talking about?

Before or after his complete personality change?

Before: He would just win the damn grail himself
After: He would just win the damn grail himself then destroy it once and for all!
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>>100547272
Why would he "escape" his stronghold?
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>>100552539
There's no difference. Kiritsugu only sought to destroy it once he realized that the only "miracle" it could deliver was destroying everything, which violates his creed of sacrificing the few for the many. Throughout his life he stuck to this and accepted that his own happiness would never be a factor in his decision
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>>100548739
He did get raped by worms to help a little girl. So what if we was trying to replace tohsaka in kariya's eyes he was the biggest shitlord ever.
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>>100552722
If Kiritsugu knew a legitimate, airtight way of creating world peace, the Grail would have been able to grant his wish. But the only thing Kiritsugu knew was that "sacrifice the few to save the many". The Grail merely took that ideology to its logical extreme.
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sequel when
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>>100549772
How so?
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>>100544172
that's great. are there more of those?
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>>100547888
>Kiritsugu: Shirou, about that girl you brought over earlier...
>Shirou: Is something the matter with Saber?
>Kiritsugu: No it's just that, well, I don't want to tell you who you can date, but the thing is... I just think that Heroic Spirits are a bit...
>Shirou: What's the problem with them?
>Kiritsugu: They pretend that there are right and wrong ways of fighting, as if there is honor on the battlefield itself. What idiocy. War is hell itself. Because those fools have brought in unnecessary intentions, human nature has not advanced since the Stone Age!
>Shirou: Uh, Dad, you're acting different. It's scary.
>Kiritsugu: In the end, Shirou, Heroic Spirits are nothing but murderers who can take pride in such things as honor and glory.
>Kiritsugu: Uwaa! Actually, there are many kinds of Heroic Spirits! I- I was wrong Shirou! It's too rash to cast aside Heroic Spirits as a group!



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