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Bittenfield General
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Bittenfields don't know bout my fleet formations.
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I don't really get what was the problem with hitting flagships.

They didn't remotely have enough ships to completely cover it in even one direction and even then the problem becomes that almost all ships break apart with one laser shot (no shields) and do little to stop the beam from continuing on.

The only problem I could imagine is, that they don't know where exactly the flagship is.
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>>100519990
They had shields but you don't actually see them until half way through the series and after that only a handful of times.
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>>100519867
get fukt m8

>>100519990

LoGH's space battles make no goddamn sense

I don't think anyone even thought to utilize the third dimension until around ~30 episodes in
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>>100519787
Is he an admiral?
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>>100520507

Looks like, I already forgot all of the promotions.

What was Yang's last rank?
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>>100520127
>LoGH's space battles make no goddamn sense

They're recreations of 18th century battles for the most part.
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>>100520573
Ya. Lots of riflemen all lined up shooting randomly at each other. Napoleonic more than anything.
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>>100520050

I always figured that the cannon fodder (aka any ship that didnt have a main/sub character on it) had no shields. They always talked about putting the heavily armored ships up front to protect the others.
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>>100519990

>I don't really get what was the problem with hitting flagships.

They had a really bad case of plot armor when it came to 'chivalry'. Many commanders, especially Reinhard and Wenli, would try to purposefully avoid flagships. For dozens of reasons including 1) Trying to force the commander to capitulate a surrender 2) to fulfill their own sense of 'honor' and 'pride' by winning the battle over another commander 3) Only utilizing the flagships when the plot permitted it.

The major issue however is that they're literally going into battles with 20,000-500,000 ships at a time. So the odds are technically in the favor that the one commander ship would survive. Especially since it would have 10x more armor, shielding and be farther behind the lines than most of the other ships. Not to mention if any other ships got anywhere near them, a bunch of other cruisers would literally kamikaze into enemy ships just to protect the commanders. Trying to go for a commander ship is like trying to go right for the enemy King in chess with a Pawn while its still surrounded by every other piece.

But despite all this, many commanders ships still did get killed. Nearly every time to their own incompetence. Again, a form of plot armor, as it always had to happen to show how one commander was superior to another or to move the plot along. Never as a 'random' act. In other words, it would be like if you were playing chess and someone stupidly moved all their pieces right into the middle of the board and left their king exposed in the back.

The thing that got me more confused in LoGH is how every fucking commander at one time or another wants to shoot themselves in the head. 'Oh I lost a battle, time for my turn to pull out a gun and kill myself'. I swear, these guys are all so eager to commit suicide....
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>>100520662
>Japan
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>>100520660
You see lasers being deflected off rank and file ships in one of the battles I think. Either way their shields didn't seem to be particularly effective only Muller's flagship seems to shrug off direct hits.
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>>100520662

But there were random flagships destroyed, the one I remember is one of Ashbey's commanders in Gaiden.
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>>100520662
>The thing that got me more confused in LoGH is how every fucking commander at one time or another wants to shoot themselves in the head.

Yeah I noticed this too. If you're gonna die anyway might as well go down with the ship and not pussy out.

>>100520127

Maybe they were worried about friendly fire.
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>>100520794

But was it ever a major commander? Like Mittermeyer or someone? Its always someone who isn't really as crucial to the story.
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>>100521018
Mittermeyer is far too skilled to put his fleet in such a position that he or his staff are in that much danger. Most of the pretty crucial officers are good at what they do, it's why they obtained the ranks they did, and that usually means not being outsmarted so hard that your flagship ends up on the front lines.
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>>100520662
>'Oh I lost a battle, time for my turn to pull out a gun and kill myself'.

Dying in the suffocating smoke-filled wreckage of your ship would be some scary shit man

See the movie version of Lapp's death
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>>100520662
Imagine: There are tens of thousands enemy ships at the distance of tens of thousands kilometers in front of you. You CANNOT be picky about which ship would you hit, you just spam your beams and hope they hit something.
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>>100519867
SEMICIRCLES
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>>100520662
>>100524193
>>100520768
The thing about logh is that it's set in a fictional universe.

There is no religion preaching "sanctity of life" mumbo jumbo. People in both sides lived under warmongers for over a century with propaganda constantly present in their media and everyday life. Of course the sting of defeat would be much more serious to the.
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>>100523565
I panicked when someone mistakenly reported that Beowulf was destroyed.
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>>100520662
Are you retarded? Both of Bittenfeld's admiral kills were pretty much random. The guy just no scoped Fischer and Merkatz while he rambled on about Oberstein probably.
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>>100527042
360 degree no scope too.
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>>100519990
The weapons are mentioned to have a maximum range and an optimal range. The flagships are of course located in the back of the fleet, excluding Bittenfield. Thus to get inside the effective range of a shielded flagship you'd have to blindly rush the enemy formation which, because of being a tactic prey to the good old semicircle, only works for Bittenfield. It worked on a couple of other occasions but I am trying to keep the explanation Bittenfield related.
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>>100519787
Wouldn't going at the speed they're going and ramming another ship destroy everything?
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>tfw no episodes about Schenkopf being a bad motherfucker

LoGH missed out on having cool land battles.
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>>100527537
Have you tried the gaiden episodes?
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>>100527650
Not yet. Do I get to see more Schenkopf-sama?
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>>100527684
One Hundred Billion Stars, One Hundred Billion Lights
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I dislike the Alliance and every aspect of them and every single person who was on their side besides Merkatz. Seeing rebel scum always cheers me up.
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>>100528450
>scum die*
I'm a retard.
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>>100528450
At least Poplan and Schenkopp are nice. von Kreuzer also mai waifu.
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Why didn't they make the exteriors of the ships reflective? Lasers would just reflect
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>>100529335
It's a real shame, honestly. I just can't find anyone in the Alliance as interesting as anyone in the Empire. Shit, I hated the Rebel Alliance in Star Wars.
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>>100529951
Most, if not all, admirals in Empire are memorable, while I only know name like Fischer after his death.

I blame Yang Wenli for keeping all spotlights for himself.
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>>100530066
I also forgot who Fishcer was. Also, that one black admiral on Heinessen who was a participant of the riots. And I did not care for Bucock's death. Yang's death left me unphased, and Julian's "absolute brilliance" pissed me off. Seriously, I would have loved to see him not live up to Yang's standard and fail miserably.
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Did anyone think Yang Wenli had some massive plot armor that rivals Goku until he gets assassinated out of nowhere

Yang never had the problem of subordinates disobeying orders. They always obeyed him like a hivemind and executed every order he gave. Reinhard's admirals were doing shit their own way left and right.

Reinhard's admirals would get in situations that led to their imminent defeat. Yet everytime Yang Wenli got into a situation just like theirs he either finds a way out or it was a trap planned by him

I don't get this shit
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>>100530271
>They always obeyed him like a hivemind and executed every order he gave.
And they always did it perfectly without failing. Reinhard's subordinates were fucking everything up
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>>100530271
That's one of the main reasons why I hate the Alliance. They're just too damn perfect. I don't give a shit if the space battles are stupid as shit, just make it so that both sides get fucked over by stupidity. It was just unbearable to see filthy rebel scum slaughtering upstanding citizens of the Empire, while shit didn't happen to them anywhere near enough times.
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>>100520557

He was a FPA figure on par with Heinessen
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>>100530271
Well, you have to write the plot in a way that makes Reinhard lose, but Reinhard is perfect, so in theory he shouldn't be able to lose.
The solution is putting the blame on his subordinates. That was pretty much the only way for the story writer.
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>>100530401
Reinhard pissed me off too by going into battles at a disadvantage

Like when he attacked that asteroid field in the middle of nowhere with that star letting off solar flares even though that place had no kind of strategic significance
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>>100530560
I was pissed off at that sort of stuff, too. What happened to those damn Directional Zephyr Particles? Why not just snuff them out with that? It's not like the show actually explains in what ways they can be used. If Kircheis was able to destroy the Artemis Necklace with them, why didn't anyone think of using it on Iserhlorn?
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He's not a general, he's an admiral.
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From what I understand is these ships have a faster forward thrust than backward thrust.

If you put the lasers on the rear of the ships instead of the front you would never be defeated
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>>100520662
>Trying to go for a commander ship is like trying to go right for the enemy King in chess with a Pawn while its still surrounded by every other piece

Checkmate
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>>100530773
He's not an admiral, he's my waifu.

(Husbando.)



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