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>Thinking Homura is pragmatic enough to kill someone against all evidence to the contrary
She closes her eyes and turns away when aiming for Mami's leg. Yeah, that's a Mind of Steel alright.
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>>100518758
>get rekt in the last thread
>prunes
>make new thread
Now what do you expect is going to happen?
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>>100518840
Maybe someone will show up who can refute the claims that are being made instead of resorting to personal attacks.
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>>100519067
There's nothing to refute. Your claim is completely ridiculous and has no basis.
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>>100519067
Fuck that, MadoHomu thread.
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>>100519192
I like it
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>>100519344
Why can't the be together?
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>>100518758
>doing so in her deluded state, not in her fully conscious one.
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>>100519143
What, that Homura is neither pragmatic nor immoral? That given the opportunity to take action, she chooses to stand back every time and watch indecisively as the girls destroy themselves? That her icy facade crumbles whenever she sees Madoka, that her detached outlook is simply that of a sore loser who pretends that they haven't given up?
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why does this show have such an awful fanbase?
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>>100519437
>fanbase
>good
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>>100519428
The only case where she was actually in a position to take out someone who she had a reason to take out was Sayaka, and she showed no sign of backing out from having to make that choice.
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>>100519437
Fanbases are usually as good/bad as their respective haters.
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>>100519437
Still couldn't be compared to the NGE fanbase circa the end of the 20th century.
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I just came back from watching the movie.
The fuck is wrong with Homura. I usually support the most human character, but she became too fucked up to be likeable.
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>>100519579
>showed no sign of backing out from having to make that choice.
She was bluffing as usual. I find it laughable that you think someone with timestop and a hammerspace full of guns and bombs would have a hard time killing someone she wanted dead.
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>>100519804
That's fine, she doesn't want to be liked.
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>>100519804
Just facade, she still doing the best one could ever do, she played the bad guy before in previous timelines too.
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>>100518758
I still remember the argument about this months ago.
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>>100519804
That's something I actually wanted to see in the series, I think repeating her fuck up in saving madoka time after time took its toll in her.
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>>100519257
what terrible, terrible art
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>>100519883
She showed no sign of backing out from having to make that choice. There is nothing you can say that will change that, you are just speculating on what would have happened if Kyouko hadn't shown up. There is no evidence that she was bluffing.
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>pragmatic
>Confronts Mami directly, and backs down every time when Mami sees through her while making a dejected face
All she has to do is kill Mami before she ever makes contact with Madoka. Hell, right here Mami shows her back to Homura. It would be a cakewalk for Homura to end her life right here, but we don't even see her consider it.
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>>100518758
...I thought this was obvious?
Homura, for all her issues, is not a killer. The only person she was ever able to kill was Madoka, and that's haunted her since.
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>>100520223
There's a difference between being pragmatic and being an unabashed murderer. The only surefire way to kill Mami is to attack her when she's completely unaware, like an assassin. There's no way Homura has that in her. Also, killing Mami wouldn't really serve much of a purpose, since QB would hound Madoka for a contract anyway, and then Kyouko would show up, making Sayaka's issues worse, which only makes Madoka more likely to contract.
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>>100520223
Poor Homura, she's the one who tries to reason with Mami countless times, and Mami's response is always hostile.
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>>100518758
at least she can hold her liqour
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>>100520561
>implying that's not Sayaka's normal behavior
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>>100520393
Life has always been hostile to Mami, it can't be helped.
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>>100520223
In the end, Homura doesn't want to kill any of them. They were all comrades and Mami was a Senpai to her just as she was for everyone else.

Homu just refined her goals after failing to not helping anyone else and focusing only on Madoka.
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>>100520353
Right, being pragmatic is all about doing practical things like acting suspicious so that literally no one trusts you and trying the same things over and over when they didn't work the first dozen times. No, a practical approach would be to experiment with the timelines and test variables.
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>>100520772
I'm really not interested in arguing whether all of Homura's actions are pragmatic or not, I just think she seriously intended to kill Sayaka in episode 8.

Also, Homura's kind of dumb.
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>>100520816
We'll never know, will we?
Killing Sayaka certainly isn't in line with her character, but maybe that was the moment where she was prepared to shed the last of her hesitation.
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>>100520393
Mami extended a hand first and Homura always slaps it, then offers no actual explanation beyond the extremely aggressive "don't get in my way"

Homura easily has the worst people skills of any of the cast, including Kyubey.
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>>100520956
I think killing Sayaka is entirely in line with her character at that point. Recall that she already mercy-killed Madoka to prevent her from becoming a witch, and she didn't even really have to do that, she could have just run away to the next timeline. Killing Sayaka would essentially also be the same thing, since she was beyond saving otherwise, even if she didn't appreciate it.
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>Hint : TVA and Movie series are separated. Homu didn't try to kill Sayaka in the movie series.
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>>100521135
No.
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So what I'd like to know is why do Mami's rifles fire with such perfect accuracy?

It is known that the design and circular shape of the bullets caused them to bounce around in the chamber and reduce accuracy.

Her emotions may overcome the laws of entropy but I think her weapons should obey physics.
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>>100521135
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>>100520816
>Homura's kind of dumb.
No she's not.
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>>100521184

its fucking magic, also rifled barrels would make her own guns fairly accurate at the ranges she uses them at
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>>100521184
>I think her weapons should obey physics
And why the fuck would you think that?
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>>100520965
Mind supporting that claim? I don't recall Mami extending shit Homura's way except for the barrel end of a rifle.
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>>100521273
She'd disagree.
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>>100521184
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>>100521284

MAGIC ISN'T THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING
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>>100521363
That's true, sometimes the answer is AI YO
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>>100521363
In a Magical Girl show, it kind of is. Because as you may know, the genre is about girls who use magic.
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>>100521363

THE GUNS ARE LITERIALLY MADE OUT OF AND SHOOT MAGIC, THERE COULD BE COTTEN CANDY INSIDE EVERY ONE AND THEY WOULD STILL WORK HOW SHE WANTED THEM TO.
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>>100521314
She told her to back off because Homura was currently attacking her friend. Later, after beating Gertrude she offers Homura a grief seed and asks to start again. Homura refuses, then continues being aggressive, creepy, and mysterious.

In the movie Homura again starts attacking Mami's friend, then offers no explanation and attacks Mami.
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>>100521288
She makes guns from ribbons. She doesn't make better guns because she doesn't get how they work. It means her guns should work like normal ones.
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>>100521363
Magic solve everything
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>>100521454
They're still made of magic.
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How much do you think Mami weighs?
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>>100521438
>In the movie Homura again starts attacking Mami's friend, then offers no explanation and attacks Mami.
That's not true, she did try to explain.
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>>100521454
>She makes guns from ribbons.
You do realize that supports our argument not yours right?
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>>100521184
Well for one thing her bullets are apparently perfectly spherical. They're also made of magical ribbons.

Since the weapons themselves could be produced exactly the same each time and don't ever warp or wear since they're discarded and replaced after use that would eliminate some degree of randomness.
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>>100521433

Her guns are made of and shoot nonsense!

NONSENSE!
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>>100521532
130-140
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Before the movie I hated Sayaka, but now I want to
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>>100521543
She rambles for a bit then gives up on her own explanation, then again goes on being aggressive. She barely says much of anything before deciding that it would be easier to fight her way out (which it was not)
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Homura is evil I tell you

EVIL
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>>100521063
Well, there's substantial precedent for Homura's reaction for when she makes bluffs and gets called out on them.
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>>100521544
It means they actually replicate structure of real guns. They shouldn't work differently.
She can't just throw bullets in whatever direction she wants, she needs guns for that.
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>>100521689
What bluff did she make there?
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>>100521689
She backs down when it's the more prudent thing to do, yes, but she had no reason to do that with Sayaka.
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>>100521532
>you never walk with Mami-san an afternoon on the beach while holding hands.
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>>100521798
>you will never join Mami-san for tea on a rainy day
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Can we get some love for Mami-san in this thread?
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>>100522109
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>>100522109
I'm sorry, all of my love is currently allocated to Sayaka-chan.
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>>100522215
Damn, they weren't kidding when saying she really shines in the movie.
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>>100521184
Why are her bullets even circular anyways?
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>>100522244
Mami is better than Sayaka.
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point of madoka's plot: guys are assholes and girls should like other girls instead

that is the only thing i understood...i don't know know sayaka is in the plot otherwise
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She's just a little girl you sick fuck.
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>>100522176
>we will never see Candeloro animated
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>>100522272
Kyouko > *
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>>100521718
Her poker face is her bluff. She plays at being confident and condescending with the other girls but her facade doesn't work with Mami, whose smug grin says, "Yeah, I dare you to start shit."
>>100521748
What's prudent about letting Mami and QB expose the girls to the realm of magical girls? She nearly convinced them both to contract. That's Homura's ingenious practical approach, letting Kyubey brainwash the girls?
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>>100522244
She was the shining star of the movie for me.
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>>100522358
Then you have shit taste.
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>>100522305
i'd bet that we see Mami and Kyouko's witch forms in a sequel. they need a power-up from Homura to face Sayaka and Nagisa equally.
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>>100522358
Slut.
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>>100522326
>What's prudent about letting Mami and QB expose the girls to the realm of magical girls?
The alternative is fighting Mami directly. That would be a really bad idea. She wanted to stop QB before he came into contact with Madoka, but she failed. Then Getrud showing up at the worst possible moment meant that Mami came to save them.
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>>100522305
I really hope we will. She is very cute but kind of useless.
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>>100522406
If Mami is in control she can be quite helpful for creating more powerful muskets and other shit.
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>>100522404
>The alternative is fighting Mami directly. That would be a really bad idea.
No, it's not the alternative. That's what timestop is for. She wouldn't even need to fight Mami, she could just grab Kyubey and hightail it.
>She wanted to stop QB
She certainly does a shitty job of preventing anything when she has over a week to do it.
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>>100522381
This is not Kamen Rider, anon.
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>>100522516
There's millions on Kyubeys, silly.
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>>100522516
>No, it's not the alternative. That's what timestop is for. She wouldn't even need to fight Mami, she could just grab Kyubey and hightail it.
So what you're saying is that she's incompetent. I get that. Ideally she would have timestopped and grabbed QB before he got to Madoka, but she didn't. None of that has anything to do with her backing down when Mami confronts her.
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>>100522583
Why waste time stop like that? Grabbing Qb and taking him away would be useless as another one could just replace him.
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>>100522176
>set of 99 images
God dammit now I'm gonna have to save all of these
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>>100522723
Well that's really an argument for not bothering to chase him down in the first place.
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>>100521184
>>100521695
Bullets "bouncing around" in the chamber only happens if the bore is larger than the bullet which was required in early smoothbore muskets because they were muzzle loaded and thus needed to have enough extra space to push the bullet to the back, the breech. This problem was solved with rifling and breech reloading and allowed bullets to be larger than the bore diameter. When the propellant was ignited the explosion would heat up the bullet and "melt" it, pushing squeezing it through the smaller barrel's opening where it conforms to the shape of the inner barrel walls and gives it the spin. Now Mami's rifle is clearly muzzle loaded but since she spawns the ball inside I'm not going to question too hard how that works, maybe the breech is slightly larger.

Round bullets require a lower twist rate to stabilize because it's centre of gravity is in the exact middle instead of at the back like modern bullets are with their aerodynamic "sharp" tips (There is a reason arrows are front heavy instead of back heavy, the back will have more momentum thus try to move to the front and unstabilize it). Higher twist rate means lower velocity since it has more friction, so that's bad if you want more range/accuracy, fortunately Mami shouldn't need much. Finally, longer barrels increase velocity which in practice increases accuracy since more energy means less interference from the environment.

Flintlock is stupid though, at least use a percussion cap if you want to be an antique hipster.
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MADOKA A 8/10 show
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>>100522725
>2000+14
>Manually saving from pixiv
Don't tell me you manually save from gelbooru too.
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>>100522845
But I have to organize them...
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>>100522725
He has more of those.
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>>100522899
His set of Angel Mami are pretty cute.
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>>100522531
Or is it?
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>>100522969
I just got to those. My fucking heart.
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>>100522982
Fuck off.
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>>100522866
>Not automatically saving those 99 pictures to a single folder which has the tags in it's name.
Your only excuse would be if you were using Chrome... you aren't using Chrome, are you?
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>>100523050
But that's not organized at all.
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>>100523050
>absolutely disgusting.jpg
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>>100523099
I can take my time organizing them since it only took one click to download them all.
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>>100523160
If I'm gonna be moving them all around anyway I might as well just do it when I save them. More efficient.
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>>100523050
Part of the fun in collecting fanart is browsing yourself. Using an algorithm that saves everything for you eliminates that.
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>>100522982
Well, atleast the story set was viewed by a larger audience overall now.
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>>100523197
I still don't understand what Homura do there.
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>>100523269
>No the Gaim version
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>>100523258
Gothloli homu > all other homu
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>>100522982

this is an insult to kamen rider
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>>100523286
Wings are erogenous zones, duh.
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>>100523325
>implying there's more than one homu
Homu is Homu. There is only one Homu and that is Homu.
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>>100523325
Madokami x Homulilly best MadoHomu
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>>100523368
There are stages of Homu. As a man is defined by his experiences, so is Homu defined by the amount of suffering she's gone through.
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Just a reminder that Rebellion is not canon.
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>>100523325
Homu is not homu from a long homu, homu.
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>>100523443
Yeah and the series ended in deus ex machina. Also Homura is gay. Yeah, yeha. Fuck off.
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>>100523443
More canon than you, nerd.
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how is sayaka's story related to homura's story
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>>100518758
>Shielding her eyes from gore when she's soaked in her own blood
Why is Hommando so cute in Rebellion? She isn't even wide.
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>>100523440
Yes but she is still Homu. There is stages of Homu but there is still a single Homu. The multi-homu complex is real, but the single Homu reality is that there is but one true Homu who evolves.
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>>100523420
Moemura x Madoka > *
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>>100523528
Sayaka is the story of a girl who dies rather than compromising on her impossible ideal.

Homura is the story of a girl who fucks the universe rather than compromising on her impossible wish.
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>>100523528
They're both Faustian characters. They have more in common than they like to let on.
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>>100523666
>>100523675

that's a vague generalization...what consistent small plot details relates them?
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>>100523727
I don't know, where are you going with this?
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>>100523586
But Madoka likes cool Homura more.
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>>100523762

what I was asking you...
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>>100523579
It's simply an interesting mental exercise to contemplate the coincidence of multiple points in Homu phase space, or Homuspace. In practice, only one Homustate can be realized in real space at a given time.
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>>100523768
Counterargument: Madoka has a clear fetish for braids.
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>>100523817
You're the one who brought it up dude.
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>>100523888

why did you feel obligated to respond? don't reply if you can't back it up
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>>100523768
Nah, she likes having someone to save.
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>>100521532

Mami's a curvy girl but she's still pretty short. 115 sounds about right. Average for a girl her age, assuming American (might as well), is 105-115.
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When is movie 3 BDs supposed to release?
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>>100523923
You asked how they were related, I gave you an answer. Apparently you want something more specific, I'm just curious why.
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>>100523942
April 2nd.
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>>100523325

Getting a Senjougahara vibe from this
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best girl
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>>100524009

it was a very bad explanation and didn't help me understand
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>>100524206
I'm sorry. I don't think they're particularly related other than in some broad thematic ways.
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>>100523879
That's true. But then she said she wants to marry someone cool like her mom. Is Moemura just for fooling around with?
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>>100523879
Is this still that shitty gif I made with gifcam months ago? That's nostalgic.
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>>100523838
That's is indeed interesting, anon. To ponder the multi-Homuverse theory is not to say that there is more than 5 Hmus, but merely to say that multiple Homus exist within a single Homuverse. Eventually however, we'll have to tie our shoes. I agree with you and subscribe to multi-Homuspace Homutrol.
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>>100524117
What about this?
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>>100522982
>still posting this bait which lists differences as similarities
anon pls
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>>100524117
I get Senjougaraha vibes from everything involving Homura because Chiwa Saito can't change her voice and homura sounds just like Senjougaraha.
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>>100524421
>Chiwa Saito can't change her voice
I'm too tired for this.
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>>100524655
>her two biggest roles are identical
Yeah, okay.
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>>100524264
Homura is just the perfect girl for Madoka, I just think Madoka prefer the look of Moemura.
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>>100524264
>she said she wants to marry someone cool like her mom
Was that in the PSP game?
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>>100524655
To be fair, Akuma sounds alot like Senjougahara.
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>implying Homugolf isn't the superior attacking style
get gud scrubs
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>>100524801
http://wiki.puella-magi.net/100_Questions
>Do you have any marriage desires?
>Madoka: Would be nice if I can find a cool husband like [that resembles] my Mama...
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>>100524814
Homura always sounds like Senjougaraha. They just spoke differently. Now that Homura is talking smugly and refined, the only difference between their speaking/voices is gone.
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>>100524874
Oh, that. When are we going to get them for the other girls dammit?
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>>100524834
You are correct.
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>>100524874
>Madoka: Would be nice if I can find a cool husband like my Mama...
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>>100524909
I really want to see Mami get all embarrassment with all the questions about friends.
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>>100524834
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queen of /a/
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>>100524986
Her Mom is pretty cool, what's the problem?
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>>100525052
She is queen of no one. I do not recognize her rule.
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>>100525052
Homura is not the queen of /a/. She's certainly my queen though. My goddess, my lord and savoir.
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>>100525050
>my faggot madoka has this faggot look every time I come home
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Homura really is ultimate stalker now.
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>>100525183
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>>100524714
>>100524814
>Two roles out of over a hundred
Fuck off with the straw man, no one is contesting that Homura and Senjougahara sound alike.
However, to use this as a basis that Chiwa Saito can't change her voice is retarded. Why make a claim you clearly aren't knowledgeable enough to back up?
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>>100525052
she's a cunt, i refuse to kneel
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>>100525314
She choose her best voice (only voice she's truly good at) for her two biggest roles. That's the point.
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Megucas in HD, instead of shitty low res resizes. Maybe one day moot will be not jew enough to increase the file size limit
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>>100525480
I have some super ultra HD 4K mega resolution Meguca pictures that I can't post because filesize limit. Here's one that I resized. Still looks good too.
>>100525603
>>100525571
Where are these from?
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>>100525459
It's a terribly flawed point.
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>>100525480
A fine idea
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>>100525459
Please just say whether you are bait or new. It's too late for this silliness.
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>>100525640
Pixiv probably? Does Google show nothing?
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>>100525741
I meant to ask what collection they're from. Maybe and artbook or something. Most of the high-res meguca's here so far are from the Illustrated book, for example.
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>>100525655
Fuck bandwidth, Homu is the greatest.
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>>100525831
No idea, sorry.
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>>100525899
Don't sweat it, anon.
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>>100525640
iqdb and/or saucenao give the source.
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>>100524421
Do Moemura sound like Senjougahara?
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These were all originally over 3mb. Hopefully the difference is too small to notice.
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>>100526117
Half my Bowmura folder is too big for Moot to handle. I can't bear to downsize Homu though.
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This picture is scary.
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>>100526270
Homu is scary.
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>>100526319
Homu is Lich king
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>>100526319
She's kind of creepy. I love her.
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>>100526509
>yfw in the mango that blue thing is her eye ball
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Madoka is a wonderful girl. She's kind, loving, respectful, helpful, warm, and cute. Very endearing. If you have anything negative to say about her, you should reconsider.
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>>100527564
So she manages to be both a Mary sue and Shinji at the same time.
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>>100526319
She's too lovable to be scary.
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>>100527782
Looks like those 3 years in America were well spent.
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>>100527737
You shouldn't use terms you don't understand.
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>>100527901
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>>100527564
Very cute and fluffy. Would take home.
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>>100528254
Agreed, she's extremely cute. I'd love to take her home and take care of her too. Forever. What's your favorite thing about Madoka?
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>>100528469
Homura confirmed for browsing /a/.
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So, assuming Homura has done everything wrong, has /a/ come to a consensus on what Homura could have done with her time travel powers or wish to save Madoka?
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>>100528621
>assuming Homura has done everything wrong

Why would anyone assume that?
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I want to watch this in BD quality so bad. April 2nd when?
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>>100528621
I don't think that she did anything really wrong until she tore Madoka apart without her permission. Homura should have used the power of AI YO to ascend and then have a calm discussion with Madoka of how they could best reintegrate with their normal human lives, if at all.
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>>100528621
>starting with a flawed assumption
>not accepting our new devil-goddess

>>100528657
Depends if Homura resets the timeline again.
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>>100528653
Because she has to keep time travelling to fix her fuck ups. Her latest solution will be undone in the next movie by the looks of it too.
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>>100528657
>I want to watch this in BD quality so bad. April 2nd when?

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140402T00&p0=179&msg=Madoka+Rebellion+Release

of course the actual release probably won't be at 12 AM EST.
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>>100528706
Probably not completely undone. Just revised. So it's possible for Homura and Madoka to interact with the physical world but they won't be all-powerful.
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Kyouko is my favourite Meguca, but for some reason the one I want to fuck most is Madoka.
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>>100528776
pls no sexualizing the megucas
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>>100528587
You can actually spot Homu posting here when her posts are full of sever self loathing.
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>>100521695

Her muskets hit like tank cannons. They don't give a fuck about laws of physics.
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>>100529079
But how can you distinguish her posts full of severe self loathing from the rest of /a/?
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>>100529210
Homura's posts are especially easy to spot. She also samefags like a newshit.
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/100424319/#100453497
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>>100529350
>those replies
[homu love intensifies]
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>>100520012
Niqquer you what
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>>100529417
Homufags are extremely loyal and loving.
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what to do
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I thought this pairing was just tight yuri goggles. Then I saw the movie.

/u/ wins
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>>100529943
Run. Run far, far away.

Seriously though, the focus on the lips was weird. Since it was from Madoka's point of view, could it be indicating attraction?
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>>100530298
>handholding
>fingers clasped!

spoiler that shit!
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>>100529943
Follow her. What else?
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>>100530363
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>>100530363
It's just Shaftservice. Do away with your goggles.
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>>100530658
>HomuMado
>googles
I can only admit that Madoka was so fucking scary of Homura is their last scene.
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>>100531013
They do close ups of lips all the time. That's the point. It's not implying that Madoka wants to kiss Homura or anything like that.
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>>100531076
But do they focus much on the lips so much in Madoka? Especially since the last focus was the "AI YO!" scene, making this reminiscent of it.
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>>100531154
>But do they focus much on the lips so much in Madoka?
Yes. Especially in Rebellion though.
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>>100531243
They started to focus on lips after she captured Madokami. It represents AI YO.
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I just want to remind you Sayakafags that your waifu will spit in your face if you try to comfort her when she's sad. She's a bad person.
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>>100531933
So Madoka noticing Homura's lips = being aware of her AI YO on some level. Hence her uncomfortableness in that scene. Though she didn't dislike it, either; she's still wearing the red ribbons in the last scene.
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>>100520020
The theory goes that she expected Kyouko to show up, since she seems to not be surprised when Kyouko ties her up, but she is surprised when Mami does it.

Maybe she wanted Sayaka to take her seriously, and the only way for Sayaka to actually believe Homura might be doing this for something good(Madoka) is that she back her logic up with a real intent to kill.

Once she does that, Sayaka has to consider that there is something more to Homura(and then Kyouko) than she thought, instead of assuming they just want grief seeds, power, kill humans to benefit themselves etc.

Maybe you could argue that this action is partially responsible for Sayaka really opening up at the end to Kyouko.

It's not necessarily about faking or bluffing, just that she might have expected Kyouko to jump in. If she really only wanted to kill Sayaka, then she would have dropped that nade earlier and went to shoot her in a time stop.
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>>100532863
>replying to a 7 hour old post
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Was this thread about how Homura is a mentally fragile girl that took out God because she has a one track mind?
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>>100534150
Fucking cunt.
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Sayaka~
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>>100534065

It is called bumping a shit thread.
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>>100534378
Rape bait.
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>>100534500
hoi
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>>100534494
Better than making a new thread,
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>>100531933
Anon, they've been showing close ups of Homura's lips since episode one.
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Is it time?
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>>100532863
She was gonna kill her. Stop. Please. Jesus Christ.
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>>100534986
Yes
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>>100534986
Sayaka will never abandon Homura.
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>>100535146
>might as well cop a feel while I'm here
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>I thought...
>That you might be an illusion.
>A fake that someone had placed.
>Or else...
>Being able to meet again like this...
>No matter how you look at it, it would be strange.
>But I get it.
>You really are the real Sayaka.
>Being able to talk with you like this...
>Being doted upon once again.
>I'm truly happy!
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deal with it, bitch
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She is pragmatic though, it's just that there was no good reason to kill Mami when she could just maim her and get the info out of Bebe quickly. Bebe was her target, not Mami.

She was willing to kill Sayaka because she was about to become a witch so it was necessary. She even threw a grenade. Seeing as she killed fucking Madoka when it was necessary I don't think she'd have qualms about taking out any of the other girls...BUT ONLY WHEN IT'S NECESSARY.
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>>100534977
Back then you couldn't actually call it lip service though.
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>>100535299
>m-my eyes are up here, devil
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>>100532863
Probably reading a bit too much into it.

I think the intention of that scene is to show that murder does not go unanswered. Karma is coming back to hit Sayaka before she kills again.

Many just assumed she didn't kill on the train, which I think was the reason they removed the Homura scene from the movies. The intention was to show Homura killing a witch in the making, something that has begun cursing the world by killing, someone that can no longer be saved.

But some people assume it's Homura acting crazy and killing an innocent, which doesn't seem to be their intention. In the movies, they made Sayaka even more crazy sounding during her fight with Elsa Maria. They even replaced the sad song with one called "She is a witch!" to get the point across. Kept the train scene, removed the Homura threatening Sayaka scene.
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Why is Sayaka so perfect?

pic unrelated.
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>>100535363
Fun fact: Sayaka didn't kill anyone on the train!
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>>100535398
your words and your image don't match up
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>>100535398
Tis but a flesh wound.
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>>100535398
Y-yeah, she just made them bleeed a little.
They died on their own, I swear!
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>>100535424
Nothing I say or do ever makes any sense.

Anyway, Sayaka did nothing wrong.
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>>100535453
They actually fell on her sword. Nothing she did could stop them. She tried to render first aid, but it was too late.
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>>100535521
You're shitposting a little more blatently than usual.
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>>100535604
It's not really shitposting when she literally did not kill anyone in the canon anime nor the movie. To say she did would be a pretty terrible dishonor.
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>>100535647
see
>>100535365
>>100534378
>not shitposting
okay
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>>100535614
Get that sweaty tomboy off my goddess, please.
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>>100535647
Sayaka a shit. Therefore, all posts containing Sayaka are shitposts.
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>>100535604
Why are you still replying to him?
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>>100535716
Only >>100535365 can really be considered shitposting.

The other one was just a bump to try and attract conversation.

>>100535734
You a shit. Sayaka a fun. Therefore, all posts containing Sayaka are funposts.
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>>100535790
Being a big fat idiot who turns into a witch is no fun.
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>>100535733
The goddess is on her. She will ride her and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
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>>100535823
She's actually quite /fit/.

>>100535836
That doesn't look anything like Homura.
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Ready?
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>>100535922
no pls no
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swoosh
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>>100535922
Is Homura about to give Sayaka the John Cena move?
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>>100519804
People always forget that all of the events that take place before homura breaks out is pretty much just a dream and never actually happened.
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>>100536025
Hm? No, they happened. They just happened in a fake world, i.e. a magical holodeck. The important people (and also Nakazawa) there were real.
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>>100536025
>a dream with real people where they can die and everything is observed by space cats.
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>>100535922
>>100535964
>Sayaka's role in the new world
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>>100536025
What are you talking about? That all existed.
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>>100536119
>Sayaka's other role in the new world
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I am in love with Mami-san.
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>>100536954
Worst girl.

>>100536735
[sayaka rape intensifies]
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>>100536984
>Mami
>worse
I pity you
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>>100537052
Mami a sexy

Mami not a best.
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>>100537052
Me too
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>>100536954
She's too head strong
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What's with all this Sayaka/Homura bullshit?
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>>100537086
Mami is the best.
>>100537091
Go kill yourself, devil worshiper.
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>>100537201
Homura has sexual needs, and she doesn't want to hurt Madoka.
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>>100537201
The same thing that happens with your image, shit taste.
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>>100537201
Die.
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>>100537258
Sayaka belongs to Kyouko, you ass.

>>100537297
That goes double for you.
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>>100537201
It's just a crack ship that happens to be more interesting than the actual ship involving Sayaka.
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>>100537239
Devil worshiper master race.
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>>100537341
I can die so long as there's injustice in the world.
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>>100537341
Fuck off /u/
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>>100537372
Don't listen to him. Homufags aren't devil worshipers. We're Homuists.
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>>100537399
I'd have agreed with you until Rebellion.

Watch that and tell me it's just goggles.
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>>100537388
I can not die so long as there's injustice in the world.

Fucking shit.
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we all know the real best here
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>>100537341
Kyouko also belongs to Homu.
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>>100537438
>friends don't exist
Fuck off /u/.
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>>100537481
Did you not read my post?
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>>100537481
>friends can't ever want to fuck

>>100537420
Small-minded Mamifags will never understand.
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>>100537464
Best girls
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I ship Homu x Mumi
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>>100537597
MamiHomu is pretty fun and cute. I enjoy it. Hopefully it never gets any support in any future installments though. It's disrespectful to both characters.
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>>100537591
So pure, free from corruption and innocent.

It would be sad... if some fat bald man ruined them. No?
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>>100537754
It's just not happening.

>>100537794
Or perhaps an autistic time-traveling lesbian devil?
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>>100537832
>It's just not happening.
And it shouldn't. It should stay in doujin/fanart land forever. Kind of like KyoSaya but they went ahead and rolled with that anyway.
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>>100537794
It's a shame we didn't get any Kyuubey rape doujins this time.
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>>100537961
That was always happening, at least.
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>>100537597
Good boy.
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>>100538041
Sayaka never really cared about Kyoko though. That's why it feels so unnatural in Rebellion.
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>>100537961
KyoSaya was confirmed as possible friends before. They don't need to be lovers to indulge in some protected handholding.
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>>100538094

Sayaka probably cared about her after she got into yuri valhalla. Maybe she has the same look into past ability or something as madoka. Either way they became friends in the madokami timeline when sayaka died.
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We MamiHomu now. Best crack.
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>>100538185
>probably
>Maybe
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>>100538185
It would have helped to illustrate that in some way. As it stands, Sayaka suddenly likes Kyoko just because. Hopefully a spinoff will fill the gap in the future though.
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Why is my waifu so perfect? I fucking lover her more than all of you.
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>>100538303
The real villain and asshole is the violin playing dickhead and the green NTR slut. Sayaka got the short end of the stick despite her pure intentions.

She is not my favourite meguca but what happened to her was suffering. Then again what you expect from urobutcher.
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>>100538389
>The real villain and asshole is the violin playing dickhead and the green NTR slut. Sayaka got the short end of the stick despite her pure intentions.
>this is what Sayakafags believe
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>>100522982
Ryuki isn't original either
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>>100538389
Keep crying you soft bitch.
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>>100538389
Green Mugi told her she could ask him out first, but she didn't do it because "How can he love zombie?"

Sayaka is just an idiot who brings pain on herself.
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>>100538469
>>100538477
>>100538482
Maximum autism
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>>100538518
Where do you think we are?

This is /a/.
This is where we discuss and argue about anime, down to the smallest detail.

If you consider that autism, what are you even doing here?
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>>100537961
>Kind of like KyoSaya
Sayaka actually becoming her friend isn't as far fetched as some people make it out to be.
Kyouko's last line in episode 12 already hinted at them getting along better in the new world and if she actually had full memories of the other timelines after her dead it's not surprising that she opened up more to her in Fake Mitakihara.
Rebellion might have rushed it and left out the actual build up, but otherwise them being friends is fine.
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>Sayaka, I know you've loved Kyousuke for so long so you can go after him first.
Hitomi is a beautiful person.
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>>100538221
and?

>>100538287
i suppose it woulda been nice, i agree that it looks kinda sudden
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>>100538217
>Best crack
>Not MadoKyou
Anon pls.
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>>100538620
The problem is that Rebellion don't presented them as friends, it presents them as a yuri couple.
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>>100532863
>The theory goes

Stopped reading right there
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>>100538746
They are cute together but there is so little of them that I really don't care about that relationship.
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>>100538579
>Series already aired
>Writers already decided characters
>Sitting around on daily basis inventing theories
>Flaming anyone with a differing opinion

Diagnosis: Autism
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>>100538780
>Not pandering to the fanbase masses
It's like you don't want them to make money. HomuMado and KyouSaya were always the big flagships, it was inevitable that they would pander to those two ships in a continuation.
Besides it's still open enough to interpretation that butthurt fags can argue against it, so just ignore it if you dislike it that much.
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>>100539198
Well everyone knows it's for money. That doesn't mean people who want a coherent story have to like it though.
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>>100538780
>>100539198
Rebellion got like only 30 seconds of KyouSaya screentime together. You are talking bullshit.
HomuMado - yes.
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>>100538917
The rareness makes it even cuter.
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>>100539318
>the movie only has like 30 seconds that make no sense and is only there to pander to the fans! stop taking it so seriously!
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>>100518758
Better watch yourself with that edge.
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>>100539433
I'm not talking to stop take it seriously, you can enjoy whatever you like.
But Rebellion is mostly about Homura vs everyone and it's fact.
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>>100539550
I'd argue that the movie is almost as much about Sayaka as it is Homura. Sometimes, Sayaka even takes precedence.
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>>100539550
>But Rebellion is mostly about Homura vs everyone and it's fact.
That's not an excuse for how senseless the relationship of Sayaka and Kyouko was presented, dumb fuck.
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Homura needs to put some pants on
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>>100539318
Some people are just very vocally mad about the hand holding scene and blow it out of proportions.

>>100539291
Give Rebellion the fault for being a movie with not enough time then. It couldn't satisfyingly build up their new relationship and apparently the undertones were a bit too much for your comfort zone.
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>>100539585
I don't know what movie have you watched, but after Hitomi's nightmare it's all about Homura.
Yes, KyouSaya got their great moment started on 1:31:10, but it wasn't really important.
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>>100539811
Madoka needs that too.
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>>100539872
>apparently the undertones were a bit too much for your comfort zone.
Don't try to blame the people who point out narrative inconsistencies. They could have built up a more satisfying relationship if they really wanted to. They didn't because they knew people like you wouldn't care and would eat it up anyway.
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>>100539968
I don't know why SayaKyoufags think that kind of shit is ok only because it takes a few minutes of the movie.
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>>100540343
>minutes
Now it's clear that you haven't watched the movie at all and just shitpost here. It was like 30 seconds
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>Sayaka told that she feels guilty for leaving her only friend alone and Nagisa told she wants to eat Mami one more time.
>rest of the movie is about Homura
fuuuuuuuuuuck so much Sayakyou and Mamibebe pandering
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>>100540862
see >>100539433
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>>100540322
>They didn't because they knew people like you wouldn't care and would eat it up anyway.
I do care though, I'm pissed that them becoming actual friends didn't get enough screentime, but I'm not endlessly complaining about it.
It can't be helped, it was a movie and their story wasn't the focal point, so there wasn't enough time.
I'm just glad that they're shown to get along, which shuts up all the fags that were certain that they would be mortal enemies for all eternity.
So yeah, I admit that if I had to chose between nothing and the pandering we got, I'll chose the pandering, though I still would have liked a better build up.
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>>100518758
>Shoots herself in the head as a ploy to win the fight
If she doesn't have a mind of steel, she certainly has a massive pair of brass balls.
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I found it interesting in that whole fight scene the fact that Mami must have attached that ribbon to Homura's leg back before she stopped time for the first time in the apartment while they were drinking tea.

Even with her memories overwritten, Mami was still so suspicious of Homura that she had a timestop countermeasure in place even when they were casually sitting together and drinking tea.

What a bitch
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>>100541254
To be fair, Homura was acting differently than she normally does.
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>>100540862
What the fuck was even up with the name Bebe? Wasn't she called Charlotte in the tv series?
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>>100541254
Why wouldn't you attach a ribbon to all your allies? Imagine one of them is in trouble. You can just follow the ribbon to them.
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>>100541254
You don't tie ribbons to weird autists you make tea with?
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>>100541369
Compulsively tying ribbons to anyone that comes near you sounds like something an aspie would do. It's like playing with paperclips.
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>>100541435
Perhaps it's contagious and Mami was infected by Homura.
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>>100541321
Witches names are not specific.
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>>100541321
Rune names are never used in-universe. Bebe is called Witch of Sweets.
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>>100540322
Kyouko fought and died for Sayaka's sake, just like how Homura fought and (almost)died for Madoka's sake.

I don't think we need 12 episodes of slice of life friendship time to understand the implications here.
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>>100541435
So now we have two confirmed autistic megucas?
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>>100541519
Mami just can't handle someone more alpha than her.
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>>100541638
The complaint is that Sayaka never gave a shit about Kyoko. We're to assume they built a friendship offscreen though. It would just be nice to actually see it.
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>>100541638
>>100541705
Kyouko doesn't have memories about episode 9 anymore.
She just knows that Sayaka died in Madokami's world after they became friends.
They should make Rebellion prequel to understand all things correctly.
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>>100541898
A full prequel would be redundant. Maybe just a manga spinoff or something. Or maybe even nothing. The problems are so small that they aren't really obligated to address them, it would just be pretty cool if they did.
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>>100541519
Definite possibility.

Perhaps all of the girls are secretly suffering from their own mental disabilities and the whole Magical girl thing is just one big make-believe fantasy they play during recess.

Homura is the low-functioing autistic
Mami is the mild Aspergers (which explains why these 2 are always at odds)
Sayaka is a delusional chuuni. She's actually extremely overweight but fantasizes about having a nice body, which is why her outfit has an exposed midrift
Kyouko is a violent bipolar with kleptomania
and Madoka is just a mother-hen with a Jesus complex. She doesn't actually buy into her friend's fantasy, but nonetheless wants desperately to be included

Witches are adults and cool kids who bully them. Sayaka can't Kyosuke because her chuuni fantasies chase him off, so she tries to turn into a normalfag to win him back. The rest of the Downie Quintet won't leave her alone.

Homura's timeloops are just their excuse to contunously repeat their make-believe sessions that they got off of watching a kamen rider series, so that they never have to make up anything of their own.
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>>100541979
You're a bigger autist than Homu.
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>>100541979
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>>100541639
Autists unite.
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>>100542275
They should untie first.
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>>100542275
In tea cups.
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>>100522773
>percussion cap
my nigger-free-er.
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You HomuMami fans should read the Kirara Manga Time doujin.
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>>100522773
Reminder that the bullets are actually ribbons twisted into bullet shape and can be shot as ribbons or standard projectiles.

Shit gets pretty magical in there.
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why is she so sexual?
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>>100541979
This actually makes a lot of sense in the context of the show
>Homura transfers in from the special needs class
>doesn't know how to interact with people
>clings onto Madoka because mother-hen
>starts following her around town
>shows up when Mami, Sayaki and Madoka meet up behind the music store for make-believe time
>doesn't know how to ask to be included

Would also explain why Kyouko seems to always be away from home, avoids adults like the plague and first shows up by attacking Sayaka, only completely heelturn into Sayaka's bestest friendest ever after like 2 episodes. She's probably ditching therapy to go play with her 'friends'

Sayaka just lashes out because of her horrible self-esteem issues, magnified by the fact that she can't score her little crush.

I guess QB would probably just be a stray cat that they found while playing under a bridge or something and adopted. They pretend that it can talk but Homura always ends up hurting the poor thing because she doesn't know any better.
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>>100542355
In shopping.
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>>100542636
It's love!
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>>100542636
To seduce Madoka.
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Which kamen rider would the megucas be?
I think moemura would fit kamen rider den-o but the grizzled homura would be kamen rider kabuto because she's a mary sue.
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>>100542720
Mami is only a tiny bit taller than Homura. Not even a centimeter iirc. That picture is 10/10 otherwise.

In reading.
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>>100532863
>The theory
Yeah ok. So you basically admit you have no argument to his post.
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>>100543109
Maybe she's wearing heels?
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>>100543159
Plausible explanation.
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Mami a bully
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moot pls
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>>100543495
Homu a bully
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>>100543618
Homu bullying is better.
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>>100543109
>Mami buttrest
Where can I get one
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>>100543618
I rather watch them be lewd than bully each other.
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>>100543877
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>implying
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>>100541979
I always liked the theory that the show was an analogy for pedophilia and sex rings with QB as the big guy behind it all.

Mami was "rescued" after a terrible accident that killed her family and while she was assaulted she actually fell in love Stockholm Syndrome style.

Kyouko is someone who's family fell apart when the pedophilia was discovered and she became a bitter cynical person because of it.

Sayaka was lured in by Mami and when the truth of the matter is revealed to her she becomes so depressed that she kills herself.

Homura is a former victim who has gone on the offensive and tries to save the other girls.

Madoka is being stalked and propagated to and Homura is trying her hardest to save her.
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>>100544324
I always liked the theory that Kyuubey is a fucking asshole.
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>>100544324
Too forced. Doesn't really work.
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>>100544324
If you take out the word "pedophilia" you've pretty much described exactly what happens in the series
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>>100543109
In archery.
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>>100544745
In training Madoka.
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>>100528692
Homura is a vampire!
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>>100544891
In feeding Kyouko.
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Delicious HomuMami
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>>100545289
In beating Sayaka
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>>100545289
In attracting fans at school.
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>>100545788
Why did this motherfucker take a photo of his screen?
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>>100545788
Brown Sayaka ;_;
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>>100545805
In the new year.
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>>100545137
I like this.

is there any more meguca biting to be had?
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>>100546341
There's a little bit.
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>>100520561
Kyouko seems to be the only one keeping her shit together.
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>>100545936
>Brown Sayaka doesn't care about Murrica Madoka
So much shittaste.
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>>100544891
Best trio.
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>>100522323
This guy gets it. Kyouko a best.
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>>100549391
All of them are best, anon.
Though Koyuko is of course my personal number one.
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>>100545788
Wait, there is a fan fighting game?
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>>100551174
Looks like MUGEN.
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>>100549391
She's the cutest, but I love Homura the most.
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>>100551310
I must be fucking blind or sleep depraved that I didn't think about Mugen, thanks anon.
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>>100551540
I will never be able to look at this picture again without imagining Mumi shaking outside of the window.
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>>100549391
Maybe if she wasn't such a titanic bitch.
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>>100521798
>>100521859
I didn't think this would hit me so deep.
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>>100551719
That's not very nice anon
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>>100551719
Yeah, Mami really fucked up when she shot everyone.
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>>100551719
Mumi pls. Don't be unreasonable mean to your adorable kouhai.
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>>100551719
>wink-lighting
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>>100551980
I will never forget episode 10 and what it did to the threads. For 7 episodes everyone was whining for her to come back and then she did and pulled this shit.
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>>100551980
Wait was he talking about Mami?
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Why must I force myself to choose a best girl? Why can't I love all of them? Why must I adhere to my principles?

Choosing is so hard.
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>you will never have a high resolution version of this image to hang on your wall
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>>100552211
gib
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>>100552130
mami goes batshit and kills everyone to prevent them from becoming witches.
Still waifu though.
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>>100552130
Most likely.
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>>100552135
All of them are best girl, you can have your favorite or just love them all equally. It's all fine.
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>>100552135
It's okay, you can choose someone who isn't Homura. She's worthless anyway.
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>>100538303
Because of her girlfriend and best girl Kyouko.
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>>100552478
Homura pls
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>>100552478
Madoka needs to cuddle the self loathing out of Homu.
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>>100553327
Homura doesn't hate herself, she is just insane.
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>>100553757
What is she doing with her hands? What could be on her mind?
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>>100552452
But that's not right. Even though I want it to be right, it simply won't and never will. Even if they were all quintuplets, they wouldn't be equal. Only in theory is something equal.

But then again, they are fictional, so they could be equal. If only they were real and equal. ;_;
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>>100554057
She's CRAZY.
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>>100554057
The same thing as always.

Madoka.
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>>100554057
SHAFT's massive budget, probably. Homura has been corrupted by greed.
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>>100554181
What was on her mind before Madoka?

For that matter, can you imagine the time of living before the major religions, enlightenment, technology, revolutions, and culture?
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>>100553327
>>100553757
She actually hated herself, but only for not stopping Madoka from making a wish in 12th episode.
When Madoka saved her from witch-suicide in Rebellion, she decided not to "hesitate" anymore. Yeah, she is crazy.
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>>100554346
How are the first and second lines related?
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>>100554346
Probably how worthless she was.

And no, I can't. Not very well at least.
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>>100553757
She came up with minions that throw shit at her and call her a good for nothing. Some degree of self loathing is surely there.
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>>100554346
Surely she must have had some hobbies before she was in the hospital. Like reading? Something.
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>>100554666
Filling out her own school entry forms
Reading

What else can you do in a hospital bed?
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>>100554751
Wishing she wasn't in a hospital bed?
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>>100554751
Shitpost on 4chan?
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>>100554628
It's clara dolls, they are just playing around, you stupid idiot. And we saw they obey her without a problems.
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>>100554814
>>100523396
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>>100554819
They obey her subconscious desires. Like throwing tomatoes at her.
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>>100554819
So? Then they threw a tomato at her becasue she subconsciously wants them to throw them? Face it, she's loathing herself for her betrayal but still sees it as the only right choice.
That's why she rejected the other girls symbolically and calls herself a devil. That she's going nuts from all this and the stuff before doesn't help either.
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>>100545936
oh jeez I cant unsee murridoka's ribbons as McDonald's signs.
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>>100554473
Trying to think back to a time before madoka and how one thought and lived?
Trying to think back to a time before western civilization and how one thought and lived?
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>>100555141
As expected of Murridoka.
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>>100555141
AMERICA
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>>100554932
It more looks like they were throwing tomatoes at each other, one of them throwed tomato at Homura and started to run away. It was just childish play.
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>>100555249
Childish play from fragments of a traumatized little girl's soul.
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>>100555141
I'M LOVIN' IT!
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>>100555221
The times Before Madoka, huh.

Kindness probably didn't exist. Pure savagery everywhere.
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>>100555306
Clara dolls represent Homura's traits and are probably intellegent. But it doesn't mean she hates herself and wants doll to throw tomato at her. And other dolls were definitely throwing tomatoes at each other.
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>>100555872
Uh, have you read the Clara dolls' names? Or paid attention to the other imagery hinting that Homura is suicidal?
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>>100521532

I have yet to play this game.
;_;



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