I've been watching Hunter x Hunter's 2011 anime and something's been bugging me. Does Gon ever kill anything? There's been this trend with shounen manga since the '90s where the MCs are pure hearted saints and all the dirty work is done by others to keep their virgin souls pure. Naruto, Luffy, Ichigo haven't killed shit when it mattered.
But Togashi was different, he's always had the reputation of being old school and ruthless. I'm surprised he went soft with Gon just like the rest.
I can assure you that Gon slays bitches Greed Island arc and onward.
He mercilessly beat down and crushed a Chimera Ant, twice
Well, Gon is currently flipping the fuck out in the current arc and is about to do something that is pretty sinister.
Wait for it. It's gonna happen soon and it will be glorious. He was simply too weak compared to his enemies until now and he also had no real reason to.
dont forget that gon also let someone get killed in front of him just to pass the hunter exam
>Does Gon ever kill anything?
Oh yes. Oh my yes. It happens in about 17 episodes.
Killing non-humans doesn't really count for anything, it's decidedly more acceptable when it's not something directly relatable to people.
Yusuke and Ichigo killed non-humans all the bloody time, and Gon's kills are only Chimera Ants. Hell, the first (and only) time Yusuke ever killed a human, it was entirely by accident and he got super butthurt about it.
Neterou loses to the king, uses a last ditch resort (the rose), which poisons the King & Komugi.
The king dies in her arms.
Gon transforms and slaps Pitous shit after learning Kite is already dead. (Kite comes back as an Ant.)
The entire Gon rage thing was forced and poorly written. Just an excuse to power up.
Well, Gon's actually kind of mentally fucked up. If you're his friend, he'll protect you and help you out. If you help him out, he'll let you go, even if you're a mass murderer. But if you're not anyone he cares about, he doesn't really care if you die or not, it's not his concern to interfere when a stranger is about to be killed in front of him.
So while currently you're at the eps where Gon hasn't killed anything (yet), his inaction on killing isn't because of a saintly heart at all.
Eventually, you will come to realize that Gon is alarmingly sociopathic and Killua has more of a moral center than he does.
It just takes a while for this to become obvious.
I thought it was awesome because his normal Nen is ho-hum. Enhanced punches, slashes and a distance energy ball, how original.
It's more like he's so innocent he hasn't matured yet, and doing it wrong could have some serious consequences when he's an adult. That's why Killua goes out of his way to kill others so Gon won't see or hear the violence if he doesn't have to.
Killua was too weak to do anything for Kite, and was likewise too weak to stop Pitou. None of the Hunters stood a chance against the King + guards, not even Netero. The whole event conspired against Gon to turn him into a monster.
>The entire Gon rage thing was forced and poorly written.
It has been known for quite some time that there was something off about Gon. Why is it forced when he starts going wild after being pushed to his mental limit?
>so innocent he hasn't matured yet
That's just what Killua believes. He idolizes Gon when in fact, Gon's deal was that he's extremely curious and selfish, not innocent.
Gon broke when Neferpitou cut off Kite's arm. From then on, he's been little more than a timebomb,
Wait who did he let die in front of him? Been a while since I saw anything prior to greed island. He is obviously psycho but I dont remember any indication of that before greed island.
Hisoka's victim in the Hunter Exam. Gon had been observing them purposely for the sake of getting Hisoka's badge during the bloodbath.
>Killua kills Jones
>Everyone else horrified
>Gon is amazed
What >>100508875 said is spot on. He did sort of grow up in the wild too along with the fact Mito runs a bar. No matter how peaceful a community, something had to have happened there frequently.
How do you say it?
Hunter vs Hunter?
Hunter ex Hunter?
>Hunter x Hunter
Though I always read it as Hunter x Hunter when I look at it.
>everyone talking about how Gon turns insane in the CA arc
>no one seems to remember when this motherfucking kid sacrificed one of his arms just to beat the big bad in Greed Island
Granted he healed it brand new at the end of the arc, but Gon didn't know that and let the guy blow up his fucking arm just to win. Hell you can see it even earlier that Gon hides his sociopathtic side with his childlike innocence in the Hunter Exam when he was going to let Hanzo stab him and break his arm because he was to stubborn to admit defeat.
Greed Island wasn't that memorable, but yeah, Gon is nuts and always will be.
Damn it, I always said Hunter vs Hunter. That little "x" is there just for decoration?
He actually didn't sacrifice his arm to do that.
He sacrificed it just to see if he could beat the guy his own way instead of relying on the plan.
I'd say that Killua to a certain degree is more moral than Gon because he is capable of noticing the evil in certain actions like in his assassin work and back when the auction guy was telling them about the types of tricks. Gon is more pure like an animal and doesn't attach the notion of good or evil to things but just learns anything that might be useful
But people even write Hunter x hunter. it doesn't make sense.
How is that any less insane though?
It's not, it's even more insane. That's why I corrected you.
He had a perfectly good plan and decided that he wasn't gonna grow if he just followed other people's plans instead of making his own. And he's right.
But thinking that, and DOING it are two completely different things.
The x isn't just for decoration. But it's ignored when spoken.
Killua kills people all the time though
>doesn't attach the notion of good or evil to things
I forget how many people bring this up in the series, but I feel as though Togashi was planning to introduce Gyro to Gon and have Gon try and actually help him despite others claiming him to be "bad" or something. Come to think of it, I wonder if Gon would even care if someone was raped in front of him since murder is just a "whatever" kind of deal.
How did Killua know it was his Granddad's attack (he even knew the name of it) when he hasn't been home since learning nen?
You don't need to learn nen to know certain attacks you know.
But we already know he shapes his nen into dragons from his fight with chrollo, it was essentially the same thing but on a larger scale.
A better question is why is Killua the only one in the family who didn't know about nen when he apparently has the most potential? Even his younger brothers/sisters whatever the fuck they are know about nen.
My main beef is why Killua wasn't taught nen when Kalluto and Alluka/Nanika have fully developed abilities and they're much younger. I can see why Illumi wouldn't tell him since he'd figure out a way to counter his manipulation. Just imagine him taking the Exam with Godspeed and his other skills.
Killua probably ran away from home before anyone could teach him about Nen.
I thought the same, Killua not knowing nen is a massive plot hole
his older brother got overprotective
But Kalluto is 10 and Killua was 12 at the start. Also, as kids, he saw what Alluka/Nanika could do. It just doesn't make any sense. The only member I could see not knowing nen would be Milluki since he hasn't left home since he was 10 and if it weren't for the auction, would still be there.
I figured it was so his physical abilities would be allowed to grow to their peak before he got to use nen, making him even stronger as he was relying on his own strength for longer.
However, that decision likely came about after Killua didn't enter the 200th floor, he was probably meant to learn nen that way.
Illumi made the right choice. Remember how h nearly died in a pool of his own blood because he went overboard? Or even how he'd have sacrificed himself for Gon when facing Nobunaga? He'd have died a long time ago if Illumi didn't plant that needle in his head and held him back.
Best big brother.
Super powers are not the same as Nen.
Killua had assassination techniques before he knew about Nen, Kurapika had his eyes too. It just wasn't clarified that most of the powers are a use of Nen, just like how in One Piece nobody knew Mantra was a form of Haki during Skypiea (they didn't even know what Haki was).
Which episode is this? That's some pretty ridiculous foreshadowing.
I think it started back when Gon and Killua met. Killua was taken aback by Gon's reaction to his family name and history. Then there was Zephile who was suprised and possibly worried that Gon didn't care about him doing dishonest things. If you want to see foreshadowing, just re-watch Heaven's Arena. It's pretty heavy there.
Everyone calls him spoiled so there's a chance that Killua just got lazy. The others seem to actually care about their mom and what Silva thinks, so I'm sure any of the others would have stayed.
i'm nearing the end of season 2. everyone always recommended it but the titular character always turned me off, looked even more kiddy-ish than narushit. but it's actually pretty good.
so far i just have one question: there's lots of hisokaxgon and killua shota porn, right?
Not much of it's scanned compared to what's out there, far more Killua and Gon stuff compared to HisoGon. There's also a surprising amount of Killua being raped by fish.
Alluka/Nanika ware likely born with that ability.
Certain people know how to use nen with out training after all.
Slowpoke here but isn't that Bisky, Morel, and Knuckle in the background?
Wasn't this the shot Madhouse always intro'd the show in during the Hunter exam? If so, mind blown
The one to the left of bisuke is the prison warden, if you mean the guy on the far left, don't know who that is but it's not Knuckle.
Here, see for yourself. Though most of the Hisogon is on pixiv apparently. I'm considering buying and scanning doujins from an upcoming convention. http://willeke4439.livejournal.com/280324.html
Also, my supervisor at work had the same attitude as you. Now we talk about Pitou's gender and traps instead of me doing work. I recommend recommending this series to everyone you know.
Oh and hte middle one on that picture is a shop, it's actually Kite in the proper one.