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What went wrong, /a/?
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>>100494788
she didn't die in episode 1
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JINGLE BELLS.
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I want to cum inside Kriem.
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They didn't elect Satomi.
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Sunrise
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They made the second season
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>>100494849
This.

Imagine how different this series would have been if she just fucking rolled over and died.
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>>100495116
It was planned right at the start.
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You watched Valverape.
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>>100494849
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>>100495180
Haruto wouldn't die.
Saki x Haruto confirmed.
Jewbro wouldn't die.
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Akira didn't get to kill Q-vier
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Haruto and LElf lied to her and withheld information from her, so she couldn't make better decisions. Given the information she had, eh decision to give Haruto and LElf was reasonable to save the school.
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S2 was shit, that's what happened. As soon as it stopped being about highschoolers doing stupid shit and fighting space nazis and tried to tell an actual dramatic story, it stopped being fun.
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>>100495335
I've seen that comment before. Many times actually. Are you simply copying and pasting?
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>>100495419
It could be that multiple people share that opinion.

>Are you simply copying and pasting?
Why don't you check the archives, smart ass?
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>>100495180
The students would have believed in Moses and died in episode 4.
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>>100496714
Wouldn't Akira be streaming the transmission of Moses and soldiers (or rather ARUS abandoning Module 77) by then? I mean, the reason she didn't is because Shoko barged in and her xenophobic/hikkik tendencies kicked in. If everything in Module 77 can be streamed via Wired, the mindless people who believes anything posted in the internet would be appalled by Moses.
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She tried to make important decisions in a Sunrise show while having a vagina.
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>>100496899
You are trying to excuse her mistakes.
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>>100497266
And you are defending shit writing.
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>>100496714

L-Elf would have done something, actually without Shoko around he probably would have been able to get Haruto to agree to the contract earlier.
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>>100497586
Haruto would never agree to work with him if Shoko had died. He'd hold him entirely responsible for her death and nothing would ever change his mind.
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RIP Jewbro.
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>>100497862

He'd probably just throw him out an airlock and get somebody else to pilot then.
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>>100497956
Just like he did all the other times Haruto refused to cooperate and fucked up the plans.
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>>100497998
That was after he made a contract with Haruto.
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>>100497998

Talking about if he could never get Haruto to agree to work with him if Shoko had really died. If he were that bull headed and as a result risked their viability I could see him offing him. He would have manipulated him somehow though.
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Shoko x L-Elf forever
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>>100497266
The problem was not what she did, but the zero effort put into the execution of it.

What she needed was the writers to take a bit of time to develop and resolve the drama properly. But of course that didn't happen because there were more important things to cover, like Q-Vier's undeservedly long death, 20 minutes of L-Elf pounding Haruto on the moon, and a wedding no one asked for or cared about.
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>>100501362

I think in the end she would have been better off remaining as an inspiration motivation girl if they weren't planning on really doing much with her. Nanami would have been better off in her PM role.
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r8p
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>>100501983
They did not need a PM, just a representative because they were never a proper nation.
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>>100494788
Sakifags
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Between Shoko and Aniplex probably pulling the plug on the VVV project before the 2nd cour which made them rewrite it to shit in order to end it.

Not even the amazing Soundtrack that was selling really well saved it from its ultimate shitfilled demise.

Poor Saki.
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>>100502507
It was always supposed to be a two cour anime.
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>>100494849
This.
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>>100502720
>This again
Obviously it was but the way the first cour was going it was going to end at 24 with enough ambiguity for additional features. Instead, we get a clusterfuck of a rushed ending to try and tie up any loose ends.
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>>100503151
>to try and tie up any loose ends

But that's not what happened.
Most of the epilogue was vague.
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>>100501983

Most characters would have been better off if their blunders never happened. The problem with Shoko is everything from her owning up to her mistake, to atoning, to even a simple apology was done entirely offscreen. No attempt was made to bring her back in the good graces of the audience and then they had to gall to claim 'she's a hard character to write for' as if they even tried.
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>>100494788
Original Sunrise series are always shit after a break.
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>>100494849
This.

Satomi would win the election, do actual good things for the Module instead of "YAY SCHOOL FESTIVAL YOLO". With help of L-Elf notes and planning, +40% students would still be alive.
After a couple of "I must do this for Shoko!" in the begining, Haruto would be forced to move on, with her out of the way to bother him and depress him for being a bakemono he would still be alive.
Jewbro's shipping would stop, he would live.
Saki would have a better chance with Haruto.
Akira would still be in her hole but Satomi-onii-chan would be the one to get her out.

What else did she cause?
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>>100507816
Nice fanfiction.
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>>100507816
She also caused the Magius to crash on Earth and blew up the moon.
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I had a dream about VVV last night actually.
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>>100494849
I think it definitely would've been interesting if she'd died in episode 1 and we got to know her through Haruto's accounts.
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>>100494788
>What went wrong, /a/?
For one thing, Haruto was the protagonist.
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>surrounded by dead bakemonos
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>>100508914
Don't talk shit about Haruto, he was innocent in all this
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>>100509369
He was. But VVV would have been better off without him.
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>>100509369
He was the cause of everything bad that happened to both him and his friends.
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>>100509529
You mean, Shoko. Haruto resorted to being beta when it was revealed she was alive. If she stayed dead, we would get the shadow!Haruto.

>>100509572
Shoko gave all her deathflags to other people.
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>>100509745
Then get rid of Shoko too, I don't really mind, but Haruto wouldn't have been improved with just a dead Shoko. He needed to be rewritten from scratch or altogether scrapped.
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>>100509745
Please explain how Haruto is beta.
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>>100510214
He only used his Rapevalve seduction technique once.
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>>100509745
I never understood this logic. If you have to kill a good character to make a shit character not shit, why not just kill the shit character?

Also, Haruto would still be screaming about MUH CURSE even without Shoko. Even louder than ever.
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>>100510309
What Haruto do : Saving people.
Whay you do : Shitposting on /a/
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>>100510309
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>>100510471
>If you have to kill a good character
Stopped reading.
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>>100510594
Eight words in a row must be out of your league.
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>>100510669
Like good taste is out of yours.
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>>100494788
L-11, a vastly more interesting character, was only a plot device.
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>>100511043
The plot devices were Lieselotte and S2 Shoko. L-Elf was one of the few actually developed characters.
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>>100502418
Be glad we exist.
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>>100511043

Are you retarded? L-Elf was probably one of the handful characters with his own backstory flashbacks (more than one), storyarc and character development which actually accomplished shit and drove the plot too.

Haruto didn't even get a fucking backstory, only shitty shattering memories, muh cave scene, and infodump. Poor guy was always in L-Elf's shadow.
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>>100511144
>actually developed characters.
Are you for real? For 3/4 of S2 we were wondering where was his development, and when it came it was hilariously bad. The homodachi scene was just horribly played and that was supposed to be his development.
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>>100494849
Then they would have never declared independence and everyone would have died ep 5
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>>100511896
He said Shoko dies, not L-elf.
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>>100511944

Even with her alive her plan failed swiftly after she proposed it, Dorssia didn't give a fuck.



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