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I'm bored of shonen, /r/ a truly brilliant seinen series that

-isn't aimed at otakus
-doesn't feature large eyed little girls
-doesn't have any blatant pedo fanservice
-actually has a well written story that never feels boring or pretentious
-rarely, if ever recycles character designs (no EVERYONE HAS THE SAME FACE bullshit)
-isn't aimed at a niche audience (like majhong players or developmentally stunted japanese businessmen)

So far I've read and liked Berserk. No former shonen series like Vinland Saga or JoJo plz; name stuff that started out in a seinen magazine and never changed.

Pic mostly related. I really like Kaiji but some of its metaphors are a bit silly and pretentious sometimes.
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lucky star
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Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
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>silly and pretentious
You're forcing me to sage a Kaiji thread.
9/10
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LUCKY SHIT
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Elfen Lied
One Piece
Neon Genesis Evangelion
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berserk=seinen
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Monster. Even though it kinda drags sometimes.
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>>10048183

T2 wants to have a word with you about -rarely, if ever recycles character designs (no EVERYONE HAS THE SAME FACE bullshit)
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>>10048183
Lucky Star
Potemayo
Hidamari Sketch
Minami-ke/Minami-ke Okawari
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>/r/ a truly brilliant seinen series that doesn't feature large eyed little girls

Good luck.
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Only the unintelligent differentiate between demographic.

Why not just ask for good anime under your preferences? You\'ll weed out 99% of shonen that way anyway. Or is it too much to ask that /a/ actually expands their knowledge beyond simple hivethoughts?
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>>10048195
For once, I agree.
The show will match your way of thinking.
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Eden.
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Read/watch anything by Urasawa if you haven't already. I'm talking Monster, 20th Century Boys, ect. It fits every one of your criteria.

PS. You are pretentious.
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>>10048203
what a coincidence, I'm actually watching that right now
>>10048207
Come on, I'm a Kaiji fan and I admit that Fukumoto comparing the human derby with EACH HUMAN'S METAPHORIC LONELY STRAIGHTFORWARD ROAD or whatever was a bit forced
>>10048244
>Only the unintelligent differentiate between demographic.
I know but I noticed a lot of "SAGE FOR SHONEN UNDERAGE B& GB2 GAIA" posts right now and I honestly wanted to see what those people could come up with.

I'll try Monster just to see what all the fuss is about.
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>>10048183
Are you looking for manga, anime, or both?
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Question about Monster: Which should I start with, mango or animu?
>>10048299
both, doesn't really matter
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Shit I was going to recomend Berserk and Monster before I read that far.
Try Hellsing. No lolis. Seras is occasionally cute but it's only as a joke, and she's an adult. It's not a serious show, but the story is decent. I mean, it's kind of a crazy premise, but it's well-executed.
While the character designs are distinctly different enough, it is kind of guilty of using the same expressions.
So it's like 80% of what you want. Try it anyway. Start with the OVA.
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>>10048318
they're exactly the same, depends on what you prefer
anime is just faster
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a Mushi-shi is fine too.
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>>10048318

Either. They are exactly the same.
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>>10048291
you're trying too hard
get out

-30/1
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>>10048382
Seen both, I'm the fag that keeps defending them here. Just forgot to namedrop then (plus I wasn't sure if they were really Seinen)
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>>10048291
Truly Brilliant:
Mindgame
Kemonozume
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>>10048327
>anime is just faster
I'll watch the animu then. Unless downloading a single episode takes 12963981723 years since anime fags are too busy seeding Naruto episodes and the latest episode of Magical Pretty Girl Moe Harem Nurse X
>>10048350
how exactly does that post constitute trolling

jesus christ, troll ratings are the true cancer that's killing /a/
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Thread sucks.
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>>10048382
Seen both, I'm the fag that keeps defending them here. Just forgot to namedrop them (plus I wasn't sure if they were really Seinen)
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>Magical Pretty Girl Moe Harem Nurse X

I LIKE that show.
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>>10048383
>Magical Pretty Girl Moe
the sad part is that it actually sounds like a name that would be used for an anime
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>>10048403
>defending them here
Defending them from what?
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MindGame
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>Only the unintelligent differentiate between demographic.

>You\'ll weed out 99% of shonen that way anyway.

i lol'd
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>>10048522
Bears
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>>10048522
Newfags falling for obvious trolls and people who seriously believe that Kemonozume is QUALITY
>>10048509
Seen it, loved it, had no idea it was seinen
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20th Century Boys.
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Oldboy
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Watch ping pong club.

No seriously... I can't describe it.
- It isn't aimed at otakus, because well it's before their time.
- no pedo fanservice.
- Guaranteed to not be boring or pretentious
- The characters are different enough...
- Its not really aimed at ping pong players... I don't know who they made this anime for...
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>>10048560
seconded
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Downloading episode 1 of Monster, I'll try >>10048554 and >>10048555 once I'm done
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>>10048560
Also it was only ever published in a seinen magazine.
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>>10048560
Watch it if you like STUDENTS DRIVING AROUND ON PANDA CARS
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>I'm bored of shonen, /r/ a truly brilliant seinen series that

>-isn't aimed at otakus

Stop watching anime.
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>>10048403
Well "Truly brilliant" is a small plateau. I could start naming other titles I guess, but it will pretty much be a downward slope.

Also, I guess I should stick to series, not movies.

Now and Then, Here and There
Mushishi
Mononoke (Not sure of the demographic here)

You've probably seen them.
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>>10048552

Do you care about demographics?
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>>10048543
SPOILERS Seinin is garbage too. You weed out 99% of anime when you ask for good things
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>>10048560
second that but it a little aimed at fans with some ashita no joe references.
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Now I know you're thinking "samurais? I'll pass" I thought the same too. However, Inoue is so amazing no words short of perfect can describe him read vagabond now!
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The drifting Classroom is always a good read for seinen fans.
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>>10048554
I saw the movie with my family. Sure it was a good movie, but maybe i shouldn't of sat in between my sisters.

great movie though... 4/4
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>>10048565
Couldn't get Mushishi due to slow torrents (FUCK YEAH 5 KB/S), kept hearing about Now and Then, Here and There and never tried it (I'll be sure to fix that), thought Mononoke was a bit too slow for my tastes judging by the first 3 eps
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There's simply nothing as brilliant and awesome and mature as Berserk in anime/manga. Everything else is too shonen, too stupid, too tame, too cute.
Monster is intelligent mature seinen and highly suspenseful (Death Note X 1000) but there's very little action.
Mushishi is intelligent and beautiful and serious but easy to understand, but you may find it preachy or slow.
Hellsing is extremely action packed and too gorey to be shonen, it's usually dark and sadistic, and the story doesn't resemble anything else, but it's about vampires and nazis and overpowered characters. Might be too crazy.
You might like Black Lagoon. Very good writing, definitly seinen, some crazy action, somewhat realistic setting and some very well-written arcs. But, it's highly political and confusing.

So there's nothing perfect but you should go for those.
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Sanctuary
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>>10048554
I really loved like the first half of Old Boy but it became incredibly stupid by the end.
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>>10048625
seconded
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>>10048638
Now and Then, Here and There isn't seinen, but it is very dark and also very good, Mushishi is good but not what you're looking for. Monster is the anime you want and Oldboy is the manga you want.
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>-doesn't feature large eyed little girls
>-doesn't have any blatant pedo fanservice
ur a faget
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>>10048671
>>Black Lagoon
>>Very good writing
>>highly political
>>confusing
OH WOW.
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Hiroki Endo Short Stories
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>>10048638
Mononoke works in arcs. Usually 2 episodes an arc. It's important not to marathon it. Like any other episodic show, you will get bored doing it like that.
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>>10048625
Vagabond is obviously genius since it's based on a classic story, and the artwork is fuckwin. I would second this.
Honestly, I gauruntee every Berserk fan is also a Vagabond fan.
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>>10048702
>Now and Then, Here and There isn't seinen
Yes it is. How can you possibly say this is aimed at children?
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List of shit I'm planning to try:

monster (episode 1's at 70%), 4 minutes left
20th century boys
oldboy
ping pong club
vagabond
sanctuary
mushishi
black lagoon
hellsing OVA (what's it called anyway?)
Now and Then, Here and There
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>>10048601
yes, but seinen still has something to say beyond "you're stronger if you have something to protect," "don't give up til the end," "friendship is great," etc. much more often than shonen does.

therefore it's not exactly "unintelligent" to prioritize seinen over shonen in a search if that's what you're looking for. that's why i was criticizing >>10048244.
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>>10048625
What they said. Vagabond is win but I would also I'd recommend Blue spring.
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>>10048717
You clearly just watched the first two episodes and gave up.
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>>10048793
Blue spring is six one shot mangas about deliquent high schoolers.
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I'll recommend the usual stuff:

Planetes (both anime and manga)
Monster (both too)
Mushishi
Mononoke
Samurai Champloo (not a masterpiece, but fairly entertaining)
Patlabor movies
Millenium Actress
Legend of the Galactic Heroes

Those should keep you entertained for a long while.
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>>10048777
Hellsing Ultimate, but it's less commonly known as that. There's also a 13 episode anime you might like if you don't like the OVA, it's pretty different, but most agree inferior. It's a lot less insane.
If you like the OVA then read the manga. I really wouldn't recommend the anime.
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>>10048792
I watched both seasons, and it's not political or consfusing in the slightest.
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>>10048780
>"you're stronger if you have something to protect," "don't give up til the end," "friendship is great,"
nice work summarizing the worst shonen cliches ever

I could easily claim all seinen is LOL PSEUDO INTELLECTUAL RELIGIOUS SHIT, BORING NONSENSICAL STORIES AND RAPE
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>>10048780
Astro Boy
Patlabor
Giant Robo
Ashita no Joe
Future Boy Conan
The Super Dimension Fortress Macross: Do You Remember Love?

What?
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>>10048183
This is the part where I jam my fingers into the OP's neck, strangle him by wrapping my fingers around his esophagus, and then smashing his head into a wall, still clutching the esophagus.

I've always wanted to see this done in a manga some where.
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>>10048816
I like Champloo but it's obviously shonen (the manga adaptation also ran in a shonen mag)
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>>10048821
Yeah they weren't stand around talking mafia politics 50% the time. You're right. The whole series is actually about a bunch of people running around beating people up for no reason.
There were plenty of times where I just did NOT follow what the hell was going on because it was so damed political, in terms of mafia politics. I'm sure other people would find it easy to follow if they like that sort of thing, but I don't.
It's a good series and I enjoyed it, regardless of not understanding a lot.
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I enjoy sports shounen Ashita no Joe and Slam Dunk are the most entertaining manga I have probably ever read. Also kinnikuman is always funny and pretty awesome sometimes. Shounen can be good ... if it's old.
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>>10048880
Champloo is as shonen as Cowboy Bebop, which means it's just not. The manga also bears zero resemblance to the anime, it might as well be a fangirl doujin.
It's a very great show, one of my favorites, but not what the OP is looking for. Too...well....
alright I guess I'd recomend it
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thanks for the shonen list cirno
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>>10048954
actually I'm the OP and I wouldn't mind something by the lines of Champloo. It's stylish, mostly unpretentious and entertaining.

and it's more shouneny than Bebop, that's for sure
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>>10048183

Maison Ikkoku. Go watch it.
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>>10048738
>Honestly, I gauruntee every Berserk fan is also a Vagabond fan.
From what I've seen, Vagabond seemed a lot more 'normal' and realistic than Berserk. I honestly couldn't picture something as over the top as the main character chopping off a huge, deformed monster's gigantic erect cock in Vagabond.
>>10049043
Added to my list hoping this isn't a troll reply
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>>10048995
there really isn't anything like champloo besides bebop
vagabond has the same samurai idea but it's much more serious
if you don't want serious you'll love hellsing
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>>10049093
>Maison Ikkoku (めぞん一刻, Mezon Ikkoku?) is a manga by Rumiko Takahashi
>Rumiko Takahashi
whoops looks like it really was a troll
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>>10049093

It's not a troll reply. Trust me.
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>>10049093
Yeah i know they're pretty different, but seriously they're the exact same fanbase. I've yet to meet a fan of berserk who isn't a fan of vagabond.
The biggest Berserk board on the internet even has a vagabond section, even though they have no other sections for other series.
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What's this (apparently godly epic) Hellsing OVA everyone's talking about
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>>10049114
Get the fuck out.
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Alright, watching episode 1 of Monster rite nao
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>>10049114
I don't care if you're just trolling. Get out. Maison Ikkoku is love.
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>>10049114

Ikkoku was her "good stuff". Try it.
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>>10049188
It also has a satisfactory ending, a trait worth noting when it comes to Takahashi.
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>>10049123
slowpoke.jpg
are you kidding? Seriously? Shit it's all I fucking talk about on /a/.
Pic related.

The only bad thing about it is there's only 4 1 hour long episodes out so far, and there will be 10, but they come out about 2ce a year *at best*. Reason being it's extremely high-budget and the people making it are being extremely careful about doing it right this time (because they failed with the anime.)
The anime is decent for the first half, but fails when it departs from the manga. It's still good, but not nearly good enough.

Oh and I forgot there is one kawaii catboy, but he gets brutally murdered for the lulz. Pic related.
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>>10049151
I'm so going to be here, please let us know what you think when you're done watching.
First episode is fuckwin.
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>>10049211
>Shit it's all I fucking talk about on /a/.
I just ignored Hellsing threads and never considered trying it. It always seemed like boring uneventful guro shit for obese goth faggots, but apparently it's actually awesome and doesn't take itself seriously so I might give it a try

Also, WHAT THE FUCK IS THE OVA CALLED? Doesn't it have some sort of subtitle to help torrent searching?
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>>10049228
I'm 2 episodes in, the visual style is brilliant. You can rarely find stuff this expressive and well animated in anime.
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>>10049244
It's Hellsing Ultimate.
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>>10049207

Very rarely do I actually agree with you, but you're definitely right in this case.
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>>10049123
It is not that crappy TV series. Other than that, I know nothing.
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>>10049244
I already said it's called Hellsing Ultimate, but nobody calls it that cause it sounds stupid.
It's not serious at all, it's fucking hilarious! Even when it's cute it's sadistic as hell. No, it's rarely serious. The manga gets kind of serious at about 9 volumes in, and it ends at 10 volumes, but by then it's all about character development so it's appropriate.
Admittedly, the all-comedy scenes are kind of annoying, but they're rare anyway. It's certainly not a goth or emo show despite it's vampire and guro stuff. It's the polar fucking opposite of Anne Rice.
Pic related. This is Hellsing.
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>>10049354
and search for Hellsing OVA, that's what it's called in torrent files.
The anime is awesome until halfway through, but not half as awesome as the OVA.
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I'll get the Hellsing OVA once I'm done with Monster. Halfway through episode 1, it's quite awesome so far.
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is this QUALITY
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>-isn't aimed at a niche audience (like majhong players o

So you pretend to be MATURE and have TASTE by slandering shounen, pedo, large eyed little girls stuff etc ... yet failing to enjoy the masterpiece that is Akagi.

Hint: it's not aimed towards mahjong players. I doubt most of /a/ knew shit about Mahjong the first time(s) they watched it through.
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>>10049567
I actually like tons of shonen, even a some series that /a/ trolls regularly. But whatever.
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>>10049567
>Hint: it's not aimed towards mahjong players.
then why does the manga run in a mahjong magazine?
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>>10049543

What? No. Thats not even a little QUALITY.
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>>10049543

Newfag.
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>>10049607
Then why does the anime .. OH WAIT IT DOESN'T.

Moron. Perhaps you should watch it before making such (irrelevant) statements.
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Zipang

No large eyes, only one woman and she's realisticlky ugly, AEGIS cruiser, WW2 and no real ending.
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>>10049610
>>10049616
the eye placement is kind of weird

then again, thanks to /a/'s influence I always find myself looking for small imperfections in animu frames and acting like they're massive flaws
>>10049626
I tried it, I just couldn't enjoy it due to the mahjong.
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>>10049691
I mean, iris placement
>>10049632
List, added, etc
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Blade of the Immortal.
/thread
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>>10049632
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> I tried it, I just couldn't enjoy it due to the mahjong.

What's the matter?
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>>10049761
read it, lern2 scroll up/use ctrl+f
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>>10049777
too NICHE for me
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anonymous chan stop saying "zawa" all the time
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Episode 1 of Monster was great. You'll rarely hear me saying this but, thanks for recommending it /a/
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>>10049991
Enjoy your 74 episode addiction. Totally worth it though.
But it's a very serious show, don't forget to check out the other recommended ones you might like just as well.
I love this thread, rarely do I actually share taste with people who ask for recommendations here.
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Oh hay guys
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>>10050085
I hated the whiny bitch prince. Otherwise really liked it. Very nice spear fights, though they were few and far between for a 26 ep series.
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>>10050085
I'm watching the OP. Lolling heartily at the engrish.
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It might not be Quite what you're looking for, but it's definitely something else, and is Actually good: Hajime no Ippo. *800 Chapters and still going strong has got to mean Something.*


Also Zetman.
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>>10050105

Prince wasn't so bad. Tanda was more meh.

Awesome anyway, if a little too long. God if it had an incredibile scenery every two minutes...
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Yakitate Japan

good comedy without moe
its about people making bread, but it's not aimed at that kind of people, because it's focused in the crazy bread designs and how people do exagerate reactions when eat it.(mostly the judges in the breads tournament, almos all the anime is in one or another tournament)
if you want to give it a try, watch ep 2, because ep 1 is a big flashback
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>>10050228
Also, were some of seirei no moribito's scenes rotoscoped? Some parts of the OP look too realistic and detailed for an anime, I'm sure there's a catch somewhere
>>10050258
Tried v1 of Zetman yesterday, it seemed worthwhile
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>>10050275
Seen it, it's a pretty amusing parody of shonen's tendency to make everyday activities seem EXTREEEME.

Though a manga actually aimed at bakers would be pretty funny.
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>>10050275

Certain arcs are also way too fucking long. The premise itself eventually wears thin and becomes dull IMO. It's still worth a shot though.
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>>10050694
This is /a/
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>>10050275

Yakitate is definitely aimed at otaku with all the references it has.
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>>10050704

What's your point?
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>>10050694
The latest volumes have HORRIBLE reactions. I'd read up to the latest arc and stop. The one with the loads of squares that you flip over, forgot the name. That's where shit starts getting really barmy.
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>>10048183

Gantz (Manga) fits all your description, but it isnt THAT good.

watch it faggot.
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>>10050728

I only watched the anime, but they called it the Yakitate 9 in it. I think it's like Yakitate 30 or something in the mango.

I personally gave up about halfway though the Y9 arc, although it really started to drag heavy during the Monaco arc.

It's worth giving a shot and continuing until you get bored of it, but there are better comedies, and it doesn't really fit the OP's criteria.
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>>10050744
>(Manga)
>watch it
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Blade of the Immortal.
/thread
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I have no idea what people see in Gantz. It's really just something like Naruto, but with mayhem, genocide and implied gang-rape added to make it seem "mature".
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>>10050822
Perhaps he's saying it's not worth reading, and just worth looking at the action. That wouldn't be too far off.
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>>10051197
If Naruto wasn't about children and had lots of gore with much less shounen cliches, I'd watch/read it.



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