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'When I did Evangelion, there was as yet no such thing as moe' says Anno

>Student Questioner: What genres of anime do you dislike?

>Anno: Works that are specifically moe, and horror. I am no good with horror, or with haunted houses.

>Student Questioner: You said you dislike moe, but isn't Asuka moe?

>Anno: When I did the TV series, there was as yet no such thing as moe. I like Sailor Moon as well.

>Student Questioner: There's a viewpoint which holds Eva to be a criticism of otaku.

>Anno: I'm not criticizing. I'm considering. That might be putting my nose where it doesn't belong for some people.
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Yes, we already know Anno is a faggot.
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>bububut moe has always been around!
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>Asuka
>moe

kek
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>>100469450
What seperates moe from kawaii?
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>>100469496
>what genres do you dislike
>ones that are moe

Can I call him an idiot for saying moe is a genre now?
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>>100469590
She can be moe if you want her to be. I'm sure many consider Rei to be more moe, though. Whether or not something is moe is really up to the perception of the person watching.

Which is why I don't like moe being referred to as a genre or a tangible concept.
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>Taking the guy whose still milking the Eva franchise seriously at all
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>>Student Questioner: You said you dislike moe, but isn't Asuka moe?

Fucking faggot
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>>100469605

"Traditional" moe, or "Good" moe imo, is "Protective" moe. When you want to help a character, and protect them. Either usually wishing you were their friend, there to protect them.

Example: Key from "Key the Metal Idol" is moe in this way, because you want to protect her. Not fuck her.

Kaiji is moe to a degree, in that way as well, though it's a little more tongue in cheek there.

Little girl from Casshern Sins was a mix of traditional and modern moe, and worked well.
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buzzword
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>Anno: When I did the TV series, there was as yet no such thing as moe.

Is this him claiming that HE invented moe?

Get fucked Anno.
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>>100469620
He's basically a baka gaijin who somehow ended up in a japanese person's body.
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sexualized cuteness
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Gay is his favourite.
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>>100469708

Pretty much every normalfag who likes anime believes this too.
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>>100469709
Yes. Just to clarify, I've been calling him an idiot for various reasons already. I just wanted to make sure I'm not misinterpreting his comments here and I can add "thinks moe is a genre" to the list of reasons he's a retard.
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>>100469685
And when I want to protect and sexualize a character, how is that called?
Because more then often people want to stick their dick into moe.
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>all these people hating on anno
He's the hero anime deserves for telling the truth like it is.
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>>100469794

He talks so much shit about otaku and moe and yet he's still milking eva, he's a faggot.
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How old were you when you outgrew sexualized cuteness anime?
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fuck oh god I'm actually agreeing with him despite only on one point

fuck moe, literally killing anime
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>>100469708
No, he's saying the term wasn't popularized then.
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Call me when he'll be able to write four fucking hours of screenplay without somehow ending up deeper and deeper up his own ass
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>>100469605
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>>100469724
Yes, but Ikuhara will never accept his love.
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>>100469865
Saying moe is killing anime is like saying humans are killing humanity.
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>>100469929
Humans ARE killing humanity though.
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Oh look it's weekend /a/ where moe really means sexualized cuteness
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>>100469929
>humans are killing humanity.
implying not
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>>100469929
What?
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ITT: No citation needed, OP is the most trustworthy source.
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>>100469900
Is it wrong that I don't see nor feel any difference between the both?
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>>100469974

b-but his text is green
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Gen Urobuchi 'There was no moe in the 80s.'

>TP: You’re known for “darker” stories. What compels you to explore thus? What message are you hoping to convey?

>GU: I got into anime during the 80s. Back then, there was no moe. Just about everything was “dark”. I am just trying to bring old sense into new styles.
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>>100469450
So he doesn't like moe or horror.
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>>100469971
Trying to save anime by getting rid of moe would be like trying to save humanity by killing all humans.
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>>100469983
Left = what little girls like
Right = what grown men like
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>>100469781
It means you are a selfish pedophile.
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>>100469929
Are you fucking stupid?

Moe killing anime is like saying CoD is killing the vidya industry. A better comparison
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>>100469450
>Anno hates moe
>loves madoka
>loves strike bitches
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>>100469971
Moe IS anime, is what he is saying
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>>100470004

Gen is the only man that can save us from moe
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>>100470020
But I don't like lolis.
I like cute tomboys and want to stick my dick in them, but only when they're 15+
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>>100470025
This one is also true.
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>>100470047
That's silly.
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>>100470055

>meduka meguca
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"Moe anime is the best kind of anime" Nelson Mandela

"What kind of faggot likes mecha anime?" Abraham Lincoln

"Why am I not wearing pants?" Erich Hartmann

This interview never happened. Anno likes moe.
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>>100470012
No. Anime is not comprised entirely of moe. And I don't even thing it needs to be removed entirely; there just needs to be less focus on it and more variety.
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>Anno: When I did the TV series, there was as yet no such thing as moe.

lel
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>>100470115

http://togetter.com/li/580471

http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/15478/Hideaki-Anno-x-Kazuo-Koike-October-22-2013/
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>>100469865
Sorry, he actually likes moe/otaku anime.
>>100470037
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>>100470150
Have you watched the show or manga

It's more about comedy than character act kawaii
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>>100469781
I must be oldschool,I mostly want to put my dick into sexy characters (like Fujiko), the moe ones give me more daughteru feels than anything.
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>>100469685
People are still explaining this?

I feel like it's 2006 again. I do feel kinds old now.

Moe is just the result of when your heart opens up to something that reaches out to you, that panders and appeals to you and therefore binds you.

In other words, anything with moe is something that you may "love" and that includes even evil things depending on the overall demeanor of said character.

This specific kind of human behavior is seen often in an human relationship towards domesticated animals or "caged" animals like birds or smaler mammals. The overall non sexual desire to protect things that we like/love is hardwired in our behavior.
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>>100470014
Do you imply that hello kitty is only adored by little girls?
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'moe is more repugnant than watching porn' says Professors Kaichiro Morikawa of Meiji University

>'As far as society is concerned. today’s otaku taste for moe is more repugnant than watching porn. Eroticism is not the only motivation that informs their fascination with moe. They have a strong urge for what is unacceptable. Otaku who buy Weekly Dearest My Brother not only feel affection for toy figures, but also enjoy being the kind of people who “buy embarrassing, tasteless things.”
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>>100470373
Woah, that's a little hateful there.
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>>100469708
No, even he knows that KyoAni created moe with Lucky Star.
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>>100470373
He sounds mad.

How dare they like what is "unacceptable".
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>>100470373
>Otaku who buy Weekly Dearest My Brother not only feel affection for toy figures, but also enjoy being the kind of people who “buy embarrassing, tasteless things.”
So they're like hipsters? I believe it, just look at /a/.
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>>100470115
Reminds me of this.
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>>100470373
So are they insulting haremshit like oreimo or harmless SoL like non non biyori?
Seems like everything is being put under the moe umbrella nowadays.
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>>100470493
Oh you, /m/
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>>100470557
Anno truly is the master
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I have no problem with what is said there.
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>>100470499
Usually when they insult moe they insult haremshit, retards buying dakimakuras, figurines, etc.
Cute sol is good and for people with taste.
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I don't think he's saying moe is a genre, it looks more like he's saying he dislikes works that are created with the sole intent of inspiring that feeling of "moe" inside the viewer and nothing else.

It'd be pretty silly to deny that there isn't an ever-growing category of works that overwhelmingly fit this notion, even if those works can also be placed under the umbrella of other genres (such as slice of life, high school, romance, etc) and even if "moe" isn't necessarily the best name for that category.
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>>100469450
>Anno: When I did the TV series, there was as yet no such thing as moe.
He's a retard. It doesn't have to be known or to have a name to exist. It's like saying "In the Stone Age, there was no such thing as cancer - just evil spirits that made people die."
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>>100470393
Nah, these things are the mainstream understanding of what otaku are in japan, for japanese people obviously.

In the last 30 years in which otakus became a mainstream phaenomenon people are relentlessly harrasing them as being full of shit/retarded/tasteless/etc.

The only thing that is bullshit however:
>They have a strong urge for what is unacceptable.

Morikawa fails at 101 psychology. Reminds me of good old germans "FPS gamers are all serial killers" media overhype.
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>>100470373
Otaking Toshio Okada 'Otaku enjoy watching themselves becoming increasingly unacceptable'

>As a way of expanding on that, when otaku choose this orientation, they head in the direction of becoming more and more pathetic. At the same time, they enjoy watching themselves becoming increasingly unacceptable. If you think about it, in a very, very loose sense, this is wabi and sabi.

>I suspect this orientation is inherent in Japanese aesthetics. If you look for a Western equivalent, it would be Decadence, or the Baroque, though theirs is a tendency toward excessive decorativeness. I imagine such people think of themselves not in terms of “See what we’ve done. We’re amazing,” but more like, “See what we’ve done! How pathetic we are!”
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"I know more about otaku culture than Anno because I've been here 3 years" - most of /a/
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>'When I did Evangelion, there was as yet no such thing as moe'

Of course.

Because it was called Kawaii back then.
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>>100469916

;_;
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>>100470727
Pretty much, but it's cool to pretend to be super technical in attempt to feel smarter than Anno and other jaded old men.
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>>100470768
Anno didn't have YotsubaC as his mentor.
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>>100470763

Yeah, not anymore.

Even Japanese government is supporting otaku now.

NHK calls them "precious subculture" now.
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>>100470765
He's right, just look at /a/. It's not that they become unacceptable because of liking something but don't care, it's that they actively try to not be normals and the more unacceptable something is, the better.
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>>100470765
Welp, sounds like /a/.
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>>100470150
>IMPLYING LUM WAS MOE AND NOT FLAT SEXY
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>genres of anime
>horror
>moe

Oh Anno you're so silly.
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>>100470768
"I know more about otaku culture than Anno because I've been here 3 months and love K-On!" - half of this thread
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>>100470837
>>100470839
Are you guys supporting normalfags now?
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>>100470446
YOU GET MAD WHEN YOU KNOW THE DEPTHS OF OTAKOO CUKTURE
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makan on Moe
11:44:18 <bay|Ota|Yamakan> A: I think you are catagorizing me unfairly (described as working with moe)
11:44:36 <bay|Ota|Yamakan> I feel that whether its a robot show or any other show whether be it, TTGL or K-on, if you are into it, it's moe to you
11:44:40 <bay|Ota|Yamakan> If you like it, it's moe
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>>100470765
Wow, I just realized how edgy and pathetic this whole subculture is. And it really reminds me of /a/.
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>>100470918
Just look at /jp/
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>>100470760
There was no word "moe"/the term was not widespread.

You being a smartass doesn't make him a retard. Other things do.
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b-b-u-t i've been in /a/ for 1-1/2 years and watch subbed chinese cartoons. i'm otaku, really.
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>>100470904
Of course Keion is a masterpiece though.

>>100470908
Case in point, this reply.
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Moe as we know it was born with Ken Akamatsu. Don't you even dare getting back at me, you just cannot.
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>>100470938
>Everything I liked was moe and I didn't even know it.
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>>100470837

You are retarded.

If that was the case otaku anime would be far more extreme. With loli rape and bestiality and other shit because it's so extreme and unacceptable.
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>>100470904
But I started watching anime with K-On!.
/a/ said that makes me the biggest anime pro.
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>>100470908
The us vs. them mentality you're sporting is the very thing he's denouncing.
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>>100469450
>isn't Asuka moe?

W-what? Wouldn't Rei be the most moe?
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>>100470982
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE RISE AND FALL OF /l/ YOU DONT KNOW SHIT

BASICALLY MOETAKU IN THEIR CORE ARE THE WORST SCUM OF THE WORLD
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>>100471006
But they are. Quzilax and Fatalpulse are one of the most popular hentai authors.
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>>100471033
It's amazing how Anno's words are 2deep4otas
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>>100470127
but then why was NNB the 2013 AOTY? checkm8 faggots
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>>100471006
Otaku culture does not begin and end with anime. What you described here is what happens in the doujin area of things, is it not?
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>>100471006
You seem to be implying that for normals that isn't extreme.

Though of course, if we want extreme we could always make this a 2chan thread.
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>“See what we’ve done! How pathetic we are!”

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-01-14/top-five-light-novels-ranked-by-title-length
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>>100470884
Why can't anime into horror?
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>>100469450
>Student Questioner: There's a viewpoint which holds Eva to be a criticism of otaku.

>Anno: I'm not criticizing. I'm considering. That might be putting my nose where it doesn't belong for some people

Tumblrfags told.
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>>100470765
>Otaku enjoy watching themselves becoming increasingly unacceptable

This guy is full of shit.

The most popular otaku anime reach the mainstream. EVA, Madoka, Gundam, K-On, Haruhi.

They all reached japanese mainstream and are recognizable by normalfags. Madoka won a shitload of mainstream awards.
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>>100471044
But Asuka is the damaged tsundere girl who you want to protect with your dick
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>>100471033
>>100470990
I dont see how your status in real life is relevant to any chinese cartoon discussion. It wasn't a crusde against normals, it is a crusade against people bringing up unrelated shit while discussing cartoons.
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>>100471092
Lots of people seem to miss this every time Anno opens his mouth.
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>>100471055

No, they are not. They sell okay but there are many much more popular hentai authors.
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>>100471080
>I tried training a girl who looks exactly like my student body president, hoping to make her my lover, and I turned out to be the servant.
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>>100471069
Don't forget hentai OVAs
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>>100471097
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>cute girls
>ok
>haremshit
>imoutoshit
>otakushit
>pathetic
>disgusting
>worthless
Well, they are right. In fact, I consider myself a fan of moe, but I really don't like when people mix me with those imouto loving pedos and other inferior animals.
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>>100471136
And eroge.
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>>100470832
Therefore, to say so in 4chan slang, it became cool to hate on them?

This is the bullshit that kills intelligence.
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>>100471069

Of course you find extremes everywhere. Western porn has scat and bestiality too, does that mean everyone enjoy it?

Most doujins aren't even porn.
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>>100470884
>moe horror
All of my zeni.
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>>100471147

Good job posting niche garbage that sold like shit.
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>Back in my day there was no "moe" and the fact it is showing up now completely disgusts me, what happened to compelling storytelling and drama?

William Shakespeare
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>>100471080
They're doing this on purpose now, aren't they? How did this shit start?
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>>100471181
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>>100470430
The term moe was around before KyoAni made Lucky Star or even before the Lucky Star manga was made, baka gaijin.
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>>100471222
Japan has shit taste.
They always have had shit taste.
That's why /a/ and /jp/ are seperate boards, weebs are subhuman scum who like a country with absolutely no taste in their local media.
That's Japan only produces more shit.
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>>100469605
15 years
moe killed kawaii
moe is sexualized kakaii
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>>100471152
This.
Why are cute SoL being group together with all these shitty LN highschool haremshit under moeshit?
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>>100470727
this.
And he is right
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>>100471080

Yeah, and these novels are crap that can't even sell 10k per volume. LN industry is pretty much industrialized fanfic. Anyone can publish any shit they want.

And seriously, do you think stuff like Twilight or Fifty Shades of Grey is any better?
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>>100471255
I expect someone who can take three dicks in the ass to be able to take a joke
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It's funny because Ikari Shinji is the epitome of moe, not Asuka
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>>100469708
>Is this him claiming that HE invented moe?
If you're a retard with no reading comprehension, maybe.
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>>100470373
What is he a professor in? Theory of Bullshit?
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>>100471287

There are 2-3 shows like that per season. Out of 40-50.
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>>100471104
I don't see her that way, but I imagine that some do. I always admired how she was as messed up as everyone else but turned into a positive thing. It also helps that I like spirited girls.

I just thought Rei seemed more "moe" in that she seriously just stands around the whole series looking vulnerable and covered in bandages, and she has exotic blue hair and red eyes and is supposed to make your heart melt when she smiles.
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>>100471281
> cute SoL
LEL, LIKE IM?

INB4
>CUTE NOT PEDO
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>>100469767
Did you even read his response before doing your sperg out about whether moe is a genre?
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Why does /a/ get so fucking stressed about it the minute anybody suggests that moe is better as a side dish and not a main course?

Look, there's nothing wrong with the odd series here and there meant to be totally airheaded and 100% devoted to giving your heart a boner, but when this becomes the face of anime over a solid block of years with no end in sight, there is a problem. There should be more room here for works that go above and beyond the lowest common denominator while still delivering the charm people like to see in any cast of characters instead of shows specifically geared toward heaping excess upon the plates of the worst demographic there is.
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>>100471006
>>100471177
I think what the professor is saying is the normalizing of things like imouto/lolicon, that otakus are actually proud of it and relish the fact that its degenerate.
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>>100471421

Look at the best selling shows in recent years.

Madoka, SAO, SnK, F/Z. So much brainless moe right?
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>>100471177
You're missing the point of what is being said here.
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>>100471444
>degenerate
Isn't hat a purely moral judgement?
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>>100471362
There are 2-3 pure CGDCTs each season but that's not what he's arguing. Many harem, romance, comedy etc shows also gear to inspire moe feelings as a big part of their appeal.
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>>100470373
I agree with him
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>>100471484
>THIS PLAYED OUT MORAL RELATIVITY ARGUMENT

EVERYTHING GOES BECAUSE THERE IS NO GOD! *TIPS FEDORA*
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>>100471421
When the industry tries to do something good and pushes lots of budget to it, shit like Guilty Crown and Fractale comes out.

The problem is that Japan and especially anime is full of shitty writers and incompetent hacks. Good series, like HxH or Space Brothers, are very rare.
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>>100471421
They are mostly talking about eroticized imouto/lolicon shit, not things that "give your heart a boner".
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>>100471469
Please. For every good show there is a ton of moeshit. And even in decent shows, a lot of female characters are reduced to otaku-pandering moe blobs.
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>>100471469
You named four series. These are outliers, they are exceptions to the rules. They do not by a long shot accurately portray the majority of anime you'll find in a given season.
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>>100471444

Samurai culture glorified fucking young boys. That's not degeneration?

That professor is just a faggot and that comment is probably 20 years old.

Even government supports otaku now. There are many programs on NHK world glorifying otaku and anime culture.
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>>100470765
This is so fucking true holy shit
/a/ proves it
>oh im such a degenerate isnt that great im so special unlike those normals!
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>>100471351
Japanese Studies.
So yes, theory of bullshit.
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>>100471484
Oh boy, is it fedora time already?
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>>100471351
>Kaichiro Morikawa, associate professor of School of Global Japanese Studies at Meiji University since 2004, was born in 1971. He received MA in Architecture at Waseda University. He served as commissioner of the Japanese pavilion at the Venice Biennale 9th International Architecture Exhibition in 2004 to produce the exhibit OTAKU: persona=space=city (2004). He is involved in establishing Tokyo International Manga Library, and operating Yoshihiro Yonezawa Memorial Museum of Manga and Subcultures at Meiji University.

http://www.meiji.ac.jp/cip/english/cooljapan/info2011.html
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>>100471518
We're in a situation where they want to outlaw lolicon or even normal anime, but junior idol shit is perfectly fine. You're stupid.
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>>100471518
Don't impose your morals on me, you filthy feminist.
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>>100471530

Good series are rare everywhere.

Look at best selling western movies and novels.
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>>100471394
What make it pedo?
It is just kids doing kids stuff. Miu is your typical naughty kid you can find anywhere else. Did you somehow miss your childhood?
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>>100471530

>Good series, like HxH or Space Brothers, are very rare.

kek
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>>100469450
>but isn't asuka moe

I'll kill him, no one calls my waifu moe
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>>100470765
This fits /a/'s bizarre-ass "us vs. the normalfags" mentality scarily well.
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>>100471610
Your face is moe
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>>100471469
You know the reason lots of people can't into Madoka Magica even in Japan

please figure out youself.
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>>100471582
>>100471591
GO BACK TO L
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>>100469450
>Works that are specifically moe
He's referring more on any works (regardless of genre) that uses "moe" element to sell itself. If that's the case, I can respect his opinions
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>>100471602
It was written by a pedo.

That automatically discredits it. Moralfags are like that.
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>>100471624
You do know the original foundation of 4chan right?
It was the place where normals come to act abnormal. If you want to be normal go elsewhere.
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>>100471543
What is logic? Did you just attempt to prove imouto/lolicon as being morally right by pointing out something is also degenerate. Government supports them because they are consumers and its not as if the Japanese government is the epitome of morality lel.
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>>100471602
UH HUH

LISTEN, YOU CAN SAY ALL THE WORDS YOU WANT

ANYONE WHO KNOWS OTAKU KNOWS YOU'RE SMOKESCREENING AND BULLSHITTING
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>>100471659
Anno gives a personal opinion on how he doesn't like a recent popular trend
>THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT OTAKU CULTURE OR NIHON SPIRIT
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>>100471625

Shit taste?

If you think it's cute girls you are fucking retarded.

Nips grew watching Sailor Moon and are now growing up watching PreCure.

Cute magical girls are a norm.
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>>100471714
You don't have a fucking clue what this discussion is about, do you?
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Just wasn't popular like it is now. I don't even remember it being here in the mid-00s.
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>>100469450
Seperated at birth.
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>>100471543
>If the government likes them then it's okay
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>>100471626
I'll find you anon
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>>100471677
It was a place for fucking underageb& moot to dick around with his stupid weeaboo friends from ADTRW
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>>100471678

Funny how people think lolicons are the ultimate evil while in the west the super cool pop star role models are either former gangsters and drug addicts or whores taking 10 dicks a day and getting pregnant with niggers.

Oh these disgusting degenerates fapping to drawings!
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BTW this whole moe/imouto/harem boom is related to the commercialisation of Akiba and the equation of otaku to moebuta.
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>>100471816
*tips fedora*
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>>100471530
Don't talk shit about The Big Ou
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>>100471816
>former gangsters

OH NO, NOT PEOPLE WHO ULTIMATELY CHANGED THEIR LIFESTYLE AND MANAGED TO GET OUT OF AN INCREDIBLY TOXIC SYSTEM

ANYTHING BUT THAT
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>>100471714
>If you think it's cute girls you are fucking retarded.
>Nips grew watching Sailor Moon and are now growing up watching PreCure.
>Cute magical girls are a norm.
Just like porn, no matter how good it is, it still pron

You know it's still lable as creepy in Japan for grow up watching PreCure expect you watch it with your kids?
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>>100471878
Or people who got into it. Like the Biebs who went from being called a girl and christianfag as fk and then he became a spoiled piece of shit wannabe gangster.
It goes both ways.
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>>100471878
how dare they try to improve their live and succeed
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>>100471816
>women having sex and getting pregnant
FUCKING HORRIFYING! HOW COULD THEY.

Yes those degenerates fapping to drawings of children.
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>>100471878
>WHO ULTIMATELY CHANGED THEIR LIFESTYLE

You mean saw the chance to make even more money thanks to people being retards?

And then get charged with domestic abuse, rape and drug dealing anyways?
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>>100471834
ban this man
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>>100471961
>Yes those degenerates fapping to drawings of children.
I can't take the word "degenerate" serious after browsing /pol/ a while back Everything i don't like is DEGENERATE
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>>100471961
>women spreading STDs and getting pregnant and giving their children a horrible life
>good

>guys who everyone hates fap to drawings but don't harm anyone
>bad

Is this is moral relativism?
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>>100471990
Domestic abusers, rapists and drug dealers are also disgusting. So are who are proud of the fact the get off to children. Whats you point?
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>>100471816
>former gangsters

Isn't this a good thing? If they're not part of gang culture anymore and they speak out against it, that's great and I support the hell out of that.

>drug addicts

Addiction is a medical condition. Fapping to lolis and priding yourself on how edgy and degenerate you are is not a medical condition, it just makes you fucking obnoxious.

>whores taking 10 dicks a day and getting pregnant with niggers.

I don't think you can name a single Western pop star who actually does this, and even if you could, I have no reason to care about whether or not anyone else is pregnant or having sex. It's their own business.

With lolicons, it's not the same. You can fap to loli all you want in the privacy of your home, but when you go and monetarily support this bullshit and give creators a reason to insert it into their works, it means I get subjected to creepy sexualized bullshit of little girls in otherwise okay series. You are creating demand for the worst kind of bullshit. A pregnant woman isn't.
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>>100471961
>women having sex and getting pregnant with the most scandalous shitty hip-hop star available just so they can be on front page of every shitty tabloid
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>>100471990
Did anyone even say that they're fine with domestic abuse and rape and drug dealing but that lolicon is where they draw the line? No, you're just using a strawman argument because you're fucking pressed over somebody pointing out that your lolicon pride is annoying and disgusting.
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>>100472049

Are you saying fapping to cartoons is just as bad? Like, for real? Are you people seriously that fucking retarded?
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>>100472045
Both are shit whats your point? And the way you say it makes it sound like most people who spread STDs and are irresponsible towards their spawn are women. Who was the woman who hurt you?
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>>100469929
Fucktard.
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>>100472113
You sound like you don't actually keep up with Western celebrities at all
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>>100472093

Japan has over 20 times lower crime, sex crime included, than USA.

But I guess they are the disgusting degenerates here right?
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>>100472093
>Addiction is a medical condition. Fapping to lolis and priding yourself on how edgy and degenerate you are is not a medical condition, it just makes you fucking obnoxious.

How funny you are. Were this a different discussion, you'd claim that lolicons are pedophiles and that they are sick because the medical community considers pedophilia a sickness according to common understanding.

Normalfags a shit.
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>>100472045
But which Western celebrities are giving everybody STDs and making their children have terrible lives? Can you name even one?
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>>100472168
What basement dweller hurt you?


I'm beginning to understand...
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>>100472195
Pedophilia is not defined as a sickness is any medical circle.
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You guys should stop getting mad over people liking things, if you don't want people to be obnoxious about being different then don't give them any attention, pretend they don't exist, problem solved.
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>>100472191
JAPAN MASSIVELY UNDER REPORTS ALL CRIMES

RAPES ARE RARELY REPORTED AND WHEN THEY CANT SOLVE MURDERS THEY OFTEN CHANGE THE CASE STATUS TO SUICIDE
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>>100472191
Those are crimes reported, not crimes taking place. Also, Japan is not comprised entirely of lolicons.
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>>100472241
>according to common understanding
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So there's something that's been bothering me for a while now

[Spoiler]Is having a 14 year for a waifu pedophilia?[/spoiler:lit]
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>>100472232
I don't hate otakus. I think its sad men who are intimidated by real women turn to fictional children and fetishize their innocence. As they cannot possibly NTR, reject or disagree with them.
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>>100472285
ALL ASUKAFAGS ARE TO BE ROUNDED UP AND JAILED
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>>100472278
Pedophilia is not defined as a sickness in any medical circle.

You're sick, just not in the medical sense.
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>>100472263
>>100472270

Yeah, you know better than experts writing books on the subject.

Whatever, this thread is full retard.
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>>100470055
>moe little girls with forced edginess
>better
No.
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It doesnt matter
We are powerless, we are not the target audience and we dont buy shit
Discussing this is pointless
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>>100472285
Hebe I think.
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>>100472302
> I think its sad men who are intimidated by real women turn to fictional children and fetishize their innocence.
>implying
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>>100472336
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>100472302
>fetishize their innocence

You have no fucking idea what you are talking about.
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>>100469450
He hates horror but I was under the assumption Eva was heavily inspired by Devilman.
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>>100472285
Anything under 18 or even over 18 and too degenerate is pedophilia.
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>>100472315
Please no
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>>100470223
>"I thought it would be interesting to have children pilot an uncontrollable robot"
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>>100472093
>Isn't this a good thing? If they're not part of gang culture anymore and they speak out against it, that's great and I support the hell out of that.

>implying they aren't popularizing gangster culture

>I have no reason to care about whether or not anyone else is pregnant or having sex. It's their own business.

>implying this isn't normalizing slutty behavior in western media
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>>100472330
>>100472241
But it's classified as a disorder in both the DSM and ICD
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>>100472285
If they have secondary sexual characteristics then it's not pedo.
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Anyway since lolicons derailed the thread with their anal obliteration over people considering them obnoxious and nasty, Anno isn't wrong to dislike works produced solely with moe in mind.
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>still doubting /a/ is niwaka central after reading this thread
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>>100472430
Its funny you think perfectly consensual sexual behaviour is worse than pedophilia.
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>>100472449
A disorder is not necessarily an illness.
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>>100469757
Not just normalfags, but people in the anime industry as well.

>In other words, in his effort to see this grand narrative through to the end, its director Anno Hideaki ultimately could not help but criticize the character industry, in order to preserve his status as author, as a matter of self-defense. Anno flirted with the impossible task of constructing a grand narrative in the 1990s, but in the end it proved impossible, and all that remained was Ayanami Rei as a moe kyara, that is, as an affective figure.
http://www.gwern.net/docs/2004-okada.pdf
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>>100472471
Its funny how you think consent applies to 2D.
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>>100472366

I wrote my master's degree on Japanese society. And have family in Japan.

Just give it a rest and do any actual reading on the subject.

EU and USA are fucking warzones compared to Japan.
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>>100470025
But CoD is killing the vidya industry.
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>>100472518
I'm sure you did.
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>>100472513
>TFW VIEWING DOUJINS OF UR WAIFU IS NONCONSENSUAL RAPE
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>>100472518
How does one write a master's degree
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>>100472518
Sure thing, buddy.
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Why are lolifags so obnoxious and annoying? I never see this with any other fetish.
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>>100472608
Confirmed for furry.
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>>100472608
How are they annoying?
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>>100472518
AND YOU CONTEST THAT CRIMES IN JAPAN ARE MASSIVELY UNDERREPORTED?

ITS WELL ACCEPTED FACT
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>>100472583
>>100472471
The point is that "sluttiness of pop stars" is somehow worse than pedophilia, which is ridiculous. Why can't lolicons just accept that they are the scum of the earth?
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>>100472583
>Readings doujins of your waifu

Sicko
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>>100469450
Based Anno telling fat neckbeards their moeshit sucks nigger cock.
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>>100472471
Paedophilia can be perfectly consensual.
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>>100472629

Rape is massively underreported everywhere.

If you think Japan is not many times safer than average US city you obviously were never there.
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>>100472430
>>implying they aren't popularizing gangster culture
No anon, gangster rap became big AFTER Ronald Reagan. After crack. The end of the 80's. When shit had already gone straight to hell. No-one becomes a gangster because of music, they become gangsters because they're poor or violent (for whatever reason). And "slutty behavior" is not a societal issue regardless of what you're being told. Virtually no harm comes of it, unless we're talking people who don't use condoms, and that's a failure of education, nothing else.
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>butthurt pedos
You're obnoxious. Go back fapping to your Quzilax, degenerates. Hopefully one day they will ban this shit even in Japan.
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>>100472664
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hg625n5RjM
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There was plenty of moe (not as much as now, but plenty). Urusei Yatsura for example, but self insert characters and harem definitely picked up during the 2000s.

Don't enter this debate if you haven't watched anything pre-2000 that wasn't an anime movie or hasn't aired on Toonami or else you'll be making shit up like left side of pic related who doesn't know the difference between real or super robot as well as made up a date for when Heidi aired. You'll have no context for debate.
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>>100469708
No, that's you claiming you're a dumbass with bad reading comprehension.
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>>100472629
CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.

Now fuck off.
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>>100472653
>IMPLYING CAPABILITY OF INFORMED CONSENT
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>>100472687
How can they even allow that sort of degeneracy there? Not surprising I guess for a country that helped the Nazis.
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>>100472641
Even betamaster Shinji faps to your waifu, you might as well do the same.
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>>100470627
I made that lol. It's satire.

People who are phobic of modern anime on /m/ and people who pretend to know anything about old anime on /a/ are stupid. Funny since /v/ is both essentially.
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>>100472688
I'm afraid I missed the point of that.
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Is wake up girls labeled as moeshit?
In this anno context, what are moeshit?
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>>100472641
>implying you haven't read any Asuka-doujins
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>>100472664
>No-one becomes a gangster because of music, they become gangsters because they're poor or violent (for whatever reason)
It glamorizes the gangster culture, they may not become one because of the music but it isn't exactly giving them a reason not to.
>Virtually no harm comes of it
Unlike loli right?
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>>100472687
>bitching about people digging loli
>on fucking /a/
What?
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This thread is disgusting. Is /a/ turning into ANN?
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>>100472664
Sensible human being who actually knows about social issues beyond the stuff they see on /pol/? On my /a/?
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>>100472687
I don't even like Quzilax. He's as edgy as you.
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>>100472735
Pedophilia is more disgusting than any anime forum.
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>>100472728
MOESHIT IS ANYTHING DEGENERATE, BORDERING ON DEGENERATE, CLEVERY DISGUISED DEGENERACY OR GENERALLY MADE FOR DEGENERATES AKA ALL OTAKU
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>>100472735

Few normalfags samefagging like retards. That's it.
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>>100472755
Loli =/= Pedo
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>>100472734
Yeah, yeah, it's cool to be an obnoxious psycho, right /b/ro?
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>>100472735
They're just trolls. I hope.
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>>100472774
Is what pedophiles like to tell themselves.
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>>100470223
I wish I had this link a bunch of weeks ago when some anon was seriously arguing hard that episode 25 and 26 don't depict the events of EoE.
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>>100472707
Shinji also got her killed and eaten
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>>100472692
>serious anime
>like Captain Harlock and the original Gundam
I laugh every time I read this
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>>100472664
>they become gangsters because they're poor or violent

or black.
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Can we stop this "moe/whatever I don't like about anime is killing anime" business. I'm tired of arguing with ignorant fucktards and having to debunk statements from hacks in the anime industry every time I discuss anime. This stuff has been around forever, even if the terminology has changed over the years. I miss talking about anime with people that actually ENJOY anime. Now everyone wants to set up a camp and blame whatever anime they don't like for killing off what they think they like. I like everything from the action packed anime to simple slice of life stuff, all of it is entertaining in its own merit.

When can we go back to having fun and watching anime? Seriously, this fight is fucking stupid.
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>>100472692
Forgot to mention most older anime have been recently
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>>100472732
>it isn't exactly giving them a reason not to
MAn, have you listened to Ice-T? N.W.A.? Ice Cube? Snoop? Dre? 2Pac? Biggie? Geto Boys? Scarface? Wu-Tang? To be honest, I haven't listened to a lot of post '00 gangster rap, so I can't talk about that, but the big names who established its popularity did little but warn and inform about becoming gangsters. They often took the persona of a gangster, but that wasn't to glorify it as much as to let people know what went on in the head of these people, who they were and why they'd become like that.
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>>100472781
>I hope
I'm not a troll. Lolicons are the most disgusting and annoying people on this board. And I myself sometimes fap to loli.
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Daily reminder:
Yamakan on Moe
11:44:18 <bay|Ota|Yamakan> A: I think you are catagorizing me unfairly (described as working with moe)
11:44:36 <bay|Ota|Yamakan> I feel that whether its a robot show or any other show whether be it, TTGL or K-on, if you are into it, it's moe to you
11:44:40 <bay|Ota|Yamakan> If you like it, it's moe
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>>100472591

Master's degree thesis. I have a bachelor's degree in engineering too. And work on an oil rig.

Not everybody here is a pathetic fat faggot. How do you think we got cash for all the figs and other crap?
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>>100472687
How many people did you kill after playing GTA5, anon?

All you are doing is trying to demonize an audience for something you don't like. Fuck you.
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>>100472816
You're a sick fuck degenerate piece of dog shit, but at least you understand that you are.
That is the first step to recovery.
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>>100469794
He has fucked things up many times; but he gave us NGE and we should thank him.
Although re Rebuilds have evident plot failures, I enjoyed them and I think he gave the fans want the asked for: more.
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>>100472745
>2014
>not believing in the jewish commie feminist chinese conspiracy
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>>100472807
You're a retard
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>>100472692
>Urusei Yatsura is a moe anime
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>>100472842
>How do you think we got cash for all the figs and other crap
Doin' gangsta shit. S-straight O.G..
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>>100472784

Pedophiles abuse children. Lolicons fap to cartoons.

If you think it's the same thing you need professional help.
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>>100472843
I don't play video games. I simply don't like you and your misfortune makes me happy.
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>>100472816
Most of the loli shitstorms are caused by trolling and reverse trolling. It's a great topic for trolls.
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>>100472735
Evageeks has even more sophisticated radar than Daiz.
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>>100472729
I haven't, are they any good? I'll never know so I might as well ask
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>>100472861
Constructive argument, as expected of someone that wants to keep this retarded argument going.
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>>100472869
Alright, lets both go to professional and explain the situation. Then lets see who needs help. LOL you pedo fucks make me laugh.
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>>100472850
Well, I'm obviously not proud of it like those retards.
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>>100472843
I WAS PLAYING GRANTURISMO FOR LIKE 12 HOURS STRAIGHT THEN GOT INTO MY CAR AND LITERALLY DROVE TOO FAST BECAUSE OF MY ALTERED BRAIN CHEMISTRY AND REWARD ASSOCIATIONS
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>>100470004
Fake translation
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>>100472886
Yeah. A few even have non-h edits for people like you
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>>100469498
It has been. Though there wasn't always a term for it. Some people confuse this for it not existing.
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>>100472876
The most popular anime of the season is about a loli taking over the world. Stay mad faggot.
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>>100472801
Mobile Suit Gundam is darker than most stuff at the time.

There is silly shit too though. Like the beach episode.

Zambot-3 was a good example, but dude couldn't spell Hellsing right. Right side knows what he's talking about at-least.

>>100472807
What old anime have you watched? Have you read up on anime history? Or have just seen screen shots of the lewd scenes from Lupin, MSG, etc. that take place for a couple seconds to a minute or two?

Actually that reminds me. Where the fuck is naked casual bathing? Now if a girl gets naked in a bath house it's like something exploded in the bath house.
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>>100472949
Oh, I enjoyed it. But it's clearly not the most popular.
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The thing to remember about loli in media is that there's absolutely nothing that points towards it being cause for real life pedophilia. If anything, it's the opposite, they feel more accepted and have an easier time getting off, making them less prone to have actual intercourse with children. But I don't like the fact that it's so fucking common nowadays. Can't studios pander a little to me as well? I'm jelly man, I wish I could fap to loli.
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>>100472729
>>100472886
Re-Take is canon.
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>>100472950
I've watched anime since the 70's, when you likely were nothing but a cumstain on your father's pantleg. Go home kid, you can cry all you want and no one is going to make season 6 of Cowboy Bebop.
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>>100472906
I don't know since when it became acceptable to treat children as sexual objects. And the no harm argument is fucking stupid, lolicons have buying power which perpetuates this idea, subjecting children to sexual scrutiny they should not have to.
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>>100473011
If he was a cumstain at any point in history he'd never have been born.
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>>100473036
And this thread would be better if that was true.
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>>100473031
Finally someone that gets it.
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>>100472943
I might try that sometime, I imagine best girl gets best doujins
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>>100473074
Your witty retort doesn't absolve you of your logical failure.
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>>100473031
Sure thing bro, just like how vidya is murder simulators. Jack Thompson would be proud of your stupidity.
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>>100473075
And the fact that they are proud of it and get angry when people find it morally objectionable is even worse. Its normalizing pedophilia, regardless on whether they act on it or not.
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>>100473111
Neither does your pretentiousness and unfounded opinions.
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>>100473031
>when it became acceptable to treat children as sexual objects
The thing is, those who do that would do that anyway. Cornering people and making them feel shit about who they are, regardless of what it is that they are, is not a good idea. People who're confused and full of self-loathing are not less prone to committing crimes. They are MORE prone to committing crimes. That self-loathing and feeling of being targetted by society can even push them to committing crimes. Giving them fictional loli doesn't make them go out into the streets to find lolis to kidnap.
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>>100473144
I bet you think rape doujins are wrong too
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>>100473031
2D =! 3D
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>>100473119
OF COURSE THEY'RE MURDER SIMULATORS

JUST MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THEY CAN'T GET AWAY WITH MURDER

GETTING AWAY WITH OTHER THINGS WHO CAN SAY
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These threads are always terrible, yet they keep happening.

Why?

I mean it's always a different kind of awful sure, here we have /pol/ shitposting but god damn is it always bad.
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>>100473031
>when it became acceptable to treat children as sexual objects
At this point in history it's probably the least acceptable ever.
>lolicons have buying power which perpetuates this idea, subjecting children to sexual scrutiny they should not have to.
It will make them less likely to fug actual children. Acceptance, at least within their own community, makes their personality more stable, making sure they don't do anything stupid.
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>>100473169
Sadly we can't kill all of them. A shame really, they don't deserve human rights.
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>>100473031
You do know history right?
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>>100473276
I imagine his only clash with history was when he watched 300.
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>>100473169
>>100473212
And you know this because? Did the acceptance of pederasty make the ancient greeks fuck less children? No. It becomes an accepted practice, were they, majority of society, born pedophiles? Probably not, they did it because it was acceptable for young boys to be sexual objects.

Indeed pedophilia is least acceptable now. Rightfully so. You don't want to be fucked by your uncle when you were 6 would you?
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>>100473209
Because anime fandom has this retarded divide where grimdark edgyfags blame cute moefags for not getting 10 seasons of an anime with buckets of blood. /a/ used to be much better at self-moderating and telling casual fucktards to go back to the shitholes they came from, not so much anymore.
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>>100473311
>THIS IS YOUR ARGUMENT

YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE HAPPENED IN HISTORY?

HUMAN SACRIFICE, THE AZTECS WOULD RIP THE HEARTS OUT OF PEOPLE

KALIMAAAAA KAAAALIMAA
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>>100473270
Yes they do. They're people who, for whatever psychological reason, find people of low physical and mental maturity attractive. Society is FULL of pedophiles. The vast majority will never touch a real loli in any sexual way. What harm do they do? And if they don't do any harm, why villify them? I think they should get therapy, see a shrink and all that, sure. But let's not pretend they're bad people when they haven't done anything bad. And the victims are the lolis themselves, the real life lolis. This isn't about punishing wrong-doers, it's about lessening the chance of lolis becoming prey for them. You don't make that happen by pushing their possible abusers against the wall with self-hatred.
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>>100473352
Caps lock is cruse control for assholes.

I'd redirect you to /b/, but that would be an insult to the board.
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>>100473352
>argument
That would mean that 1) I give a shit about your argument 2) Take you seriously. Clearly I do neither.
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>>100470765
>“See what we’ve done! How pathetic we are!”
Perfect. This is /a/. All this 'normalfags' nonsense, posting provocative shit, acting like edgy teenagers.
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ITT Thought crime

Thinking bad things makes you an awful subhuman piece of filth who should be punished, and things that I don't like shouldn't exist.

We're all being baited including me
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>>100473324
There are studies that link rape and pedophilia to self-loathing and various psychological disorders. Well, all kinds of violent crime has been linked to mental issues, really. And the way to treat mental issues isn't through rejection, but through understanding, and medication, and therapy. Locking people up doesn't make them less prone to committing crime when they get out again, and you aren't going to stop crime from happening by killing criminals.
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>>100473411
Thanks for stopping by. You can go back to ANN or Japanator or whatever shithole you crawled out of.
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Psycho-Pass Chief Director: Word 'Moe' Is Banned Among Staff

>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-10-11/psycho-pass-chief-director/word-moe-is-banned-among-staff
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>>100473447
>Thinking bad things makes you an awful subhuman piece of filth
Yes.
>who should be punished
No.
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>>100473169
>Giving them fictional loli doesn't make them go out into the streets to find lolis to kidnap.
And you know this because...?

I find it to be quite plausible that giving them fictional loli, especially works that positively portray pedophilia, can lead to imitator crimes.
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>>100473496
Do you have any evidence of this?

Any evidence at all?
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>>100473467
Yes, now you can call me a normalfag. You'll feel better after doing this.
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>>100473483
Fuck off SYBIL
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>>100473475
Good. More staff should do this to encourage better writing.
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>>100473459
Well that's my point isn't it? That it should be treated as what it is, a symptom of deep seated psychological issues. And not something normal, and worthy of pride.
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>>100473326
This so hard, I blame the klk and dandyfags
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>>100473496
Because there's absolutely nothing that points to that kind of behavior being a thing among people. People aren't wired that way. As has been said earlier, lolis in cartoons don't make people pedophiles anymore than violence in video games makes them violent offenders IRL.
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>>100473514
Nah, you are just a retard. Normalfags are at least capable of common sense.
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>>100473383
>>100473399
He isn't phrasing it nicely, but it is a legitimate point. Saying that something is socially accepted NOW because it was socially accepted 2000 years ago is fucking stupid and using an argument of nature/tradition, too, is double-stupid.

Both of you, however, are just shitposting.
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BONES President : We don't make moe-driven anime

It seems like the sort of productions getting made have shifted since the late 90s, as well. There seems to be more of an emphasis on moe characters and shows designed to sell merchandise specifically to a captive otaku audience. Space Dandy doesn't look or feel like any of these shows, its “hook” is very different. Do you worry that you might not capture enough interest from hardcore fans?

>Yes, there is most certainly a lot of moe, audience-fulfillment-based shows out there. I think of those as sort of “reaction” kinds of anime… but BONES has never really been a moe-driven production company. Our staff has worked on stuff like Cowboy Bebop and Escaflowne – shows that are very popular worldwide to this day - so I think that our work stands out, blazing new creative trails. We want Space Dandy to reach as wide an international audience as possible.

Another shift we've seen recently are more shows with elements obviously tailored towards female viewers. Do you feel that the “fujoshi ” are becoming a market force within Japan?

>Fujoshi… fujoshi… so fans who are mainly female. Unfortunately, I feel like… I can't really handle or relate to that market sector! *laughs* But like we said in regards to moe stuff, our company doesn't produce shows in that genre.

Finally, outside of BONES's work, what do you think will be the most fondly remembered anime series of the last ten years?

>Oh my. That's actually a tougher question than you think! I can barely remember what actually happened these past ten years… I'm a lot older than I look, you know! *laughs* I think Haruhi will continue to be looked back upon as something important. I also think that ufotable 's Fate/Zero is exemplary. I felt a lot of the creative power behind that show. Have you seen Kaze Tachinu yet? You should!
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>>100473556
>Saying that something is socially accepted NOW
Its not.

Phew that was hard. Thank god we got that over with.
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>>100473539
To be fair, KlK and Space Dandy are the antithesis of what the anti-moe crowd thought would be the so called "saviors of anime."
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If pedophilia is a psychological disorder, what does that make homosexuality.
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>>100473589
Please don't reply to the newshits.
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>>100473543
FAST CAR GAMES MAKE PEOPLE WANNA GO FAST

IF ITS "HARMLESS" AND "ACCEPTED" THEN WHY WOULDN'T IT TRANSLATE INTO REAL WORLD ACTION

THE SCUMS NEED TO BE PREEMPTIVELY AND FORCEFULLY CORRECTED
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>>100473599
A psychological disorder. The only difference is one is tolerated by society, and the other party can legally consent.
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>I am no good with horror
>made Evangelion
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>>100473537
Perhaps not pride, but why rejection if it's not gonna help the cause of preventing crime, but more likely cause it? Watching these cartoons isn't going to create the deep seated psychological issues that cause pedophilia.
>>100473599
There's no particular overlap between pedophilia and homosexuality.
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Just as expected from the master
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>>100473324
I was talking about fapping to drawings, not fucking real children. There is a very large difference between these two. Are you trolling or just fucking retarded?
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>>100473556
No one is going to rape little girls because they saw a fucking cartoon about sexy little girls. There is no point, and it wasn't "legitimate".

Did you jump off a cliff after watching loony toons?
Did you run anyone over with a car after playing GTA?
Did you try to kill a pop star after reading "The Catcher in the Rye"?

Stop acting like a soccer mom watching the Today show. Grow the fuck up.
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>>100473599
Homosexuality is a genetically defined sexuality.

See:
http://www.eemb.ucsb.edu/people/faculty/rice
http://www.tiem.utk.edu/~gavrila/
http://www.ebc.uu.se/research/ieg/evbiol/research/friberg/

Pedophilia is not a genetically defined sexuality.
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>>100473738
And with that, pedofags get blown the fuck out.

Goodnight everyone.
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>>100473666
>There's no particular overlap between pedophilia and homosexuality.

They're both conditions in which a person feels sexual attraction to someone they aren't supposed to.
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>>100473753
in before pedophilia becomes proven to be a genetically defined sexuality as well
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>>100473537
You're mixing pedophilia as sexual attraction, and committing crimes against children. What you say applies to the latter, but not the former.
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>>100473738
>>100473753
samefag
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>>100473753
I fap to lolicon everyday and I think real children are disgusting.

Where is your god now?
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>>100473753
Good night little girl
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>>100473558
>bones
Did they let us down?
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>>100473666
Did I say rejection? I mean treating it as what it is, a symptom of psychological issues. Again, lolicon may not cause crimes directly, but it prompts the acceptance of treating children as sexual objects, this normalizing of it is what happened in ancient Greece.
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>>100473790
As long as you don't make shitty threads about your fucked up fetish you're okay in my book.
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>>100473738
>being genetic makes it ok
A disproportionally violent personality can be caused by genetics too, but we don't allow them to live out their violent desires.
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>>100473764
>someone they aren't supposed to
Well, if we're talking "homosexuality isn't natural" then I'd like to point out that it's prevalent within a whole lot of species other than humans. Pedophilia isn't just sexual arousal for underdeveloped body types. Not real pedophilia at least, the shit we get in anime might be different.
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>>100473764
Add in . . . whatever you call people who commit incest. Incestophiles?
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>>100473845
Why because you don't like it?
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>>100473895
>MUH FREEDUMS
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>>100473870
Just because animals have genetic flaws just like humans doesn't mean they can't be genetic flaws.
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>>100473780
>samefag
>15:04:33
>15:05:03
>30 seconds difference
>posting cooldown is 60 seconds
>even if t was 30 seconds like until a few months ago, it would take additional 1-2 seconds from cooldown to post received by the server, thus making it ~32 seconds minimum
Samefag, uhuh.

Get your samefag detector checked, newfag. No, nobody would set up proxies in 4 minutes to post that one agrees.
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>>100473895
Because /a/ isn't a place to discuss your fetishes, you fool. And lolicons are especially obnoxious about it.
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>>100473850
Yes we do, we call them cops, soldiers, or martial artists. It's not the tendencies by themselves that are bad, it's what's done to the victims that makes it something to oppose.
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>>100473822
Japan has lower instances of sex crimes than whatever shithole you are from, so that argument is worthless too.
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>>100473906
Not really but
>How dare they make a thread about something I don't like and/or find morally reprehensible

>>100473932
You mean that one loli thread that you can hide and ignore, oh what horror
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>>100473870
>Not real pedophilia
What is real pedophilia?
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>>100473911
As flaws go they seem pretty minor, since we're tstill the dominant species on the planet, homosexuality or not.
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>>100473927
Yes I would
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>>100473932
>Because /a/ isn't a place to discuss your fetishes
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>>100473710
>>100473723
>>100473776
>>100473790
As I said, lolicon has buying powering and influence, hence, more media, images of children being sexualised. This becomes normalised and accepted, mainstream, if you will. Children are deemed as sexual objects.

How do you think it feels to grow up being subjected to sexual attitudes?

Also, why do you think ancient Greeks fucked boys, because boys were held to be sexually desirable.
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I'm not sure Anno appreciate you to use his quote to and up at the conclusion paedophilia is more normal than homosexuality, even if it's true.
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>>100473969
3DPeDophilia
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>>100473972
So?
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>>100473961
No. I mean that 2 loli thread + Quzilaz/Rustle thread. You are obnoxious. More than anyone else.
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>>100473934
Pedos become teachers and authors of children literature. They spend time with these gucking annoying brads (I like to call them not yet human) on their own volition. Why aren't you a bit nicer to them?
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>>100473991
See:
>>100473937
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>>100473988
See? This is what I'm talking about. You fuckers act like /b/tards. I doubt you morons even watch anime or read manga aside of porn.
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>>100473991
America has no gun control so that must mean its okay to shoot everyone.
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>>100473937
Is that why women have to have their own coach on trains? Could it because their accusations are not taken seriously? Could it be crimes are underreported?
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>>100473937
>JAPANESE CULTURE LEADS TO AN INGRAINED UNDERREPORTING OF ALL CRIMES
>JAPANESE CRIME STATISTICS BEING WORTH ANYTHING AT ALL
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>>100472302
>Normalfags in charge of knowing shit about anything
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>>100474009
>P-people should only jerk off to what I think is acceptable!!!!
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>>100473790
You fap to people attracted to loli? Wow, the famous pedophilephile is around us.
>>100473932
>/a/ isn't a place to discuss your fetishes
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>>100473991
There's a difference between mainstream and underground media. Loli will never be accepted in the former.
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>>100473991
I wish I was ever subject to sexual attitudes at all ;_;
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>>100473850
People having intra-gender sex doesn't harm anybody. People having sex with minors does harm the minors, especially if they are barely persons (>6 years) or not even persons at all (<6 years).
This harm is expressed in physical and mental abuse and the fact that someone who cannot give a consent is forced to "give consent", often accompanied by violence, like in regular rape.
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>>100474060
Could you just be getting your information from Japanese tabloids instead of actual crime statistics?
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>>100474016
Priests.
>>100474008
Well, why is it that we aren't "supposed" to be attracted to people of the same gender?
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>>100469450
>Some white guy says moe is a genre
>Wow what a retard, fukkin MAL/rebbit tier, throw it in the trash
>Asian george lucas says moe is a genre
>BASED ANNO TELLING IT LIKE IT IS 10/10
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>>100473991
You simplify a lot. In our current society, everyone who finds child bodies or even just youth bodies attractive is deemed a potential psychopath and excluded from society. This deals way more damage on the well being of children, because destroying the mental stability of pedos will make them do bad things.
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>>100473937
According to various surveys approximately 70-80% young women were groped at least once in trains.
But yes, Japan is great.
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>>100474114
>Well, why is it that we aren't "supposed" to be attracted to people of the same gender?
What do you think the point of sex is?
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>>100474064
>Caps lock being taken seriously
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>>100472802
which is if you follow /pol/ because of their inherited violence or if you don't belief in the evil jew because most blacks are poor
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>>100474060
>accusations of sexual assault are not taken seriously
>yet they provide have women only trains
Something doesn't make sense here.
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>>100473991
>How do you think it feels to grow up being subjected to sexual attitudes?
I don't know, but I wish I did.
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>>100469900
Why are :3 faces moe?
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>>100474114
He means if you look at life specifically through the facet of being a big biological contest to propagate your DNA, you're not supposed to be attracted to people you can't propagate your DNA with
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>>100474111
>People having intra-gender sex doesn't harm anybody.
>People having sex with minors does harm the minors,
Two completely different things. Gays raping other men does also harm men, so homosexuality should be illegal.
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>>100474009
You mean threads that you can easily hide and ignore?

Are you going to get angry at all of the other lewd threads too?

>>100473991
So your argument is if x group is allowed to have y reprehensible fetish/pleasure then y will actually become acceptable and people will do z reprehensible act.

Because lolicon is such a big movement, but even then the argument is essentially people will like something and develop a niche but that niche is evil and will drag our society into the pits of degeneracy.

This has been a lovely thread you magnificent ruseman, truly you have put time and effort into making people respond
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>>100474148
Procreation. That isn't an issue however, so why not view homosexuality as a safeguard against overpopulation instead? Because that's historically been a larger issue than the threat of extinction.
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>>100474158
Why did an Anno thread become about you raging at /pol/?
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>>100474192
>Procreation.
Ok so now you know why people are not supposed to have sex with the same gender. Good job. Amazing. Wow. So good. Clappety clap clap clap.
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>>100474144
And according to college sluts in court after fucking someone they regret fucking, they make rape accusations. If you want I'll attach a fake percentage to make my speculation sound as legitimate as yours.
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>>100474217
>troll thread becomes a troll thread
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>>100472745
>if you don't like rap you're a nazi

Are the KLKfags still this butthurt not everyone liked the soundtrack?
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>>100474104
Good. Stay that way.

>>100474109
Did you really want that when you are 5? Knowing that people wank to you?

>>100474112
Its like you don't know what under-reporting means. And women only coaches are a thing.

>>100474119
You know that how? Also, deeming it as normal is what happened in ancient Greeks, majority of them cannot be born pedophiles, it just became acceptable for young boys to be sexually desirable.
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>>100474191
Oh, I can ignore threads about everything. Politics, video games, films, books... Do you think they belong here? Same with your fetish threads.

No. other fetish threads are less common, but Sadpanda threads annoy me.
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>>100474185
Yeah, we evolved past that point of primitive genetic make-up long ago. Maximizing child output is not what creates a stable environment, if you overpopulate too quickly then you destroy the local ecosystems and then you starve. Starvation is not a good thing as far as evolution is concerned.
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>>100474266
IGNORE THEM
FUCKTARD
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>>100474191
>people will like something and develop a niche but that niche is evil and will drag our society into the pits of degeneracy.
Just like homosexuality! You're right.
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>>100474190
>so homosexuality should be illegal.
No. The conclusion should be that rape should be illegal, and guess what: It is.

The other conclusion would be that child abuse should be illegal, and guess what: It is.
No, paedophilia is not illegal, since it's a mental disorder, just like how being a psychopath isn't illegal, but acting as one and harming others in the process is.

Seriously, drop the "homosexuality is just as bad" thought if you cannot even support it without resorting to strawman arguments.
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>>100474276
>>100474192
That's not a case for homosexuality. That's a case for abstinence.
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>>100474227
It's not fake. You can read about them even in Wikipedia.
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>>100474219
You know what, you are possibly one of the dumbest motherfuckers I have ever met. Do you really think the most dominant species on the planet to ever exist is held back by homosexuality? Do you think genetic traits DISAPPEAR when they have no REASON to be be bred out of the gene pool?
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>>100474252
>under-reporting

Yeah, I've heard unrecorded data and wild speculation are widely accepted amongst scientists these days, or at least the anti-vaccine/anto-GMO liberals.
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>>100474252
>Did you really want that when you are 5? Knowing that people wank to you?

I can't imagine myself as a five year old caring that some pedos on the internet like my cute little boy butt.
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>>100474292
what if the child consents and has fun??

nobody is hurt then
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>>100474333
>is held back by homosexuality?
Nobody said that you mind blowingly stupid retarded fuck.
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>3 EVA troll threads on page 1

fucking saturdays
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>>100474324
>abstinence
Abstinence is retarded. The only person who ever believed that shit is Ronald Reagan.
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>>100474292
Except it's not accepted in society to have consensual sex with a young girl, when homos are seen as good people in the media (like will&grace).
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>>100474352
What if the child is 2D and can't consent? Then it's rape.
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>>100474284
I usually ignore them. That doesn't mean they aren't fool of shitposting and idiots. And they really show that this professor is right. Especially those Quzilax/Fatalpulse threads.
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>>100474326
Because Wikipedia is legitimate and couldn't possibly be altered by anyone on the internet, right?
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>>100474375
you can't rape a 2d girl
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>>100474252
Just to clear things up, pederasty was generally practiced with pubescent boys. It would still be considered pedophilia today, of course. But for example it was never acceptable to fuck an 8 year old.
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>>100474373
>WE SHOULDNT FUCK GIRLS
>WE SHOULDNT NOT FUCK
>ONLY HOMOSEXUALITY IS ACCEPTABLE
This is what you sound like.
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>>100474396
you wouldn't rape a car
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>>100474396
you have no fantasy
and no dreams
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Anyone still arguing seriously, abandon thread. We've attracted one or more retard trolls, I recognize these post patterns.
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>>100474252
>Good. Stay that way.
And /a/ is a place for underground media, deal with it.
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>>100474252
>You know that how?
It's not hard to see. Call someone psychopath all the time with no chance of defending himself and ridiculing everything he says, and he will become mentally ill or even violent. That this can happen is pretty easy to see for anyone who has basic human empathy.
>still babbling about them greeks
This was thousands of years ago. We barely know what happened in these times. In 2000 years, they will unearth a Comic LO magazine and think fucking children casually was the most normal thing.
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>>100474373
Everyone board the man train!!!!!!
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>>100474346
>you will never be a shota again
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>>100474409
>I'm a shitty troll
>I have no argument
>muh buzzwords
That's what you sound like. Good day, fellow anon.
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>>100474392
Because there are links to these surveys. Anon, please... you can find this shit in a second. There is a reason why there are women-only cars in Japan.
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>>100474392
Why don't you complain after checking the sources?
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>>100474359
I sometimes forget that we even have numbered pages.
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>>100474426
You don't have to be a retardographer to figure out anyone getting pissed over someone jerking off to 2D little girls is an idiot.
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>>100474352
A child literally cannot consent when below the age of 6. They are not persons.

Above the age of 6, they can consent, but they cannot do so legally and that's completely right, because it's quite hard to prove that the child really consented and wasn't subject to the superior position of the adult, which is why, in my country at least, sex between a teen (14-16) and an adult requires the parents' consent and is forbidden if the minor is below the age of 14.
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>>100474409
Shin sekai yori all over again.
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>>100474451
lol i even forgot this was about evanjellyon
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>>100474460
>I am angry and making stupid accusations because I lost the argument
At least you know that you lost the argument.

And hello to you too. But you know, usually people only say that when you meet them.
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>Pedophiles still rectum-decimated over people who don't fap to kids being able to call a thing a thing

It's been hours
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>>100474460
That really is what you sound like. You're shaming us for our male sexuality, but defending homosexuality, then saying it is literally impossible to expect teens/young adults to not fuck. (by that logic let's teach kids to drink and smoke cocaine responsibly)
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>>100474292
Pedophilia is not child abuse, especially not in the context of discussing fapping to drawings. Why are you so stupid?
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>>100474475
True that, but there's a clear difference between uneducated people and shitty trolls from /pol/. The latter are dropping by.
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>>100474461
>>100474467
And you two idiots are crying about sources to prove women getting their asses grabbed on trains is a link to pedophilia and rape. Stop being retarded.
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>>100474352
I doubt this argument is going to be very effective since 90% will never plan on having kids, but imagine if your 9 year old consents to having sex with a 30 year old man
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>>100474482
>because it's quite hard to prove that the child really consented
But this is also the case with adults. 50% of all rape allegations are made up, but not all men wrongly accused go free.
The logical conclusion is to make sex outside of marriage illegal.
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>>100474374
What are you trying to say? Besides, drop that trip, you wannabe-Monsieur Pomf.

>>100474511
HURRRRRRR, that's exactly what I said. Read the whole thing, dipshit.
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>>100474217
>Why did an Anno thread become about you raging at /pol/?
Because this thread turned into a discussion about typical /pol/-themes like pedophilia, gangster culture, celebrities are sluts and DEGENERATES.
Also I don't hate /pol/ it's an interesting board but I don't agree with their stance on most issues. Also hyperbole
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Remember when this thread was about anime and not lolicons crying because people don't accept them?
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>>100474482
>They are not persons

So if I fuck a four year old have a committed animal abuse?
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>>100474515
>lose argument
>blame /pol/
The only retard ITT is you.
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>>100474375
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
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>>100474403
Whats your point? It was mainstream because young boys were thought to be desirable, same thing could happen with lolis.

>>100474427
Except we are not calling them psycopaths are we? Its like depression or anorexia, a problem, not acceptable, but we should attempt to help them.

Except we do know? Young boys with small penises were carved on like vases and shit. They were desirable and fucked on the regular
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>>100474573
It was never about anime.
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>>100474250
how did you come to that conclusion anon?
He just stated that there is also social commentary in Rap
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>>100474482
What the fuck am I reading?
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>>100474563
>really consented and wasn't subject
AND.

Do you see this conjunction there? It's not there just for the hell of it.
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>>100474563
>50% of all rape allegations are made up,

But that's not true. 99.4% of rape allegations are true.
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>>100474581
No one lost the argument, you don't even have one. Don't you have to tell everyone you don't agree with they are shillbots or something?
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>>100474617
He is saying pedophilia is okay because children aren't people. SO they don't have human rights.
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>>100474528
Don't be silly anon, I only chimed in to say that "HURR WIKIPEDIA, ANYBODY CAN EDIT SO IT'S ALL WRONG" is always a stupid argument because you're always supposed to check sources no matter what you cite.
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>>100474565
>wannabe
But I'm the only one.
I trying to say i wanted to have a relationship with a 8 year old girl but society doesn't want me to.
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>>100474569
Lolis and hatred of 3DPD are something unique to /pol/ according to you? You're fucking retarded.
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>>100474580
They're still humans, just not persons. They're also still children.
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>>100474634
I'm just observing that you're trying to force a board war that has no relevance to this already shit thread.
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>>100474673
>playing LoL
literally worse than /pol/
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>>100474602
>Young boys with small penises were carved on like vases and shit.

Cute not pedo
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>>100474698
fuck off back to tumblr my god
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>>100474573
I thought this thread was about normalfags crying because something they find unacceptable is on /a/.
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>>100474602
My point is that sex with prepubescent children will never be acceptable by mainstream society.
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>>100474716
But tumblr is the audience for LoL
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>>100474688
>board war

>>>/b/
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>>100474563
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/13/false-allegations-rape-domestic-violence-rare?view=mobile

http://theenlivenproject.com/the-truth-about-false-accusation/
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>>100474602
>Except we are not calling them psycopaths are we?
Tell someone normal that you are a pedohpile. Watch his reaction. Maybe you think in your self-content mind that society makes a difference between those pedos who molest and those who don't, but in reality virtually everyone thinks of pedos as worst possible human and the thought of castrating or murdering them always comes before helping them. Oh, and that's even though "helping" is political correct speak for castrating them.

>Young boys with small penises were carved on like vases and shit. They were desirable and fucked on the regular
Before about 60 years ago, mankind wasn't this scared of naked child bodies. In fact, they were seen as innocent and inoffensive.
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>>100474754
What do you call it when one guy starts shitposting about how he hates X board
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>>100474662
I don't care if they're humans; if they're not persons they don't deserve the rights that a person has and should be granted rights like all other non-person sentients are.
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>>100474653
I'm just wondering how the fuck you draw that conclusion out of my post.
It isn't about 3dp hating it's about certain social groups. Also Loli isn't discusse but the acceptance of Pedophiles in society
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>>100469450
>"I don't like Otaku, But i do like their money" - Hideaki Anno
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>Japan is safe country
Sure
>According to a Cabinet Office survey conducted in the fall of 2008, 3.1 percent of Japanese women have been raped once, and 4.2 percent twice or more — making a total of 7.3 percent.
There you go. So safe. No one rapes there and everyone is happy fapping to 2D. It's a well known fact that rape is underreported everywhere, but especially in Asian countries.
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Who is even being accused of /pol/ ITT?

The pro-lolis? Or the anti-pedophiles? Since /pol/ is definitely anti 3D pedophile but we don't want to take your lolis.
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>>100474767
Irrelevant for this discussion. Just because some rapists go free, it doesn't mean it's ok to jail some innocents.
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>>100474377
What you mean people liking something that you find reprehensible

Or are you going to say that they're going to go out and rape people?
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>>100474820
>The pro-lolis? Or the anti-pedophiles? Since /pol/ is definitely anti 3D pedophile but we don't want to take your lolis.
I remeber there were regular pedophilie threads back when i browsed /pol/ and there were some very pro-pedo posters for example Art Admirer
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>>100474718
This thread started out about about normalfags crying about anime they don't like because Anno said something dumb enough to back up their retarded ideals.

It has degenerated into nomalfags bitching about lolicon because they don't have a leg to stand on for a legitimate argument about how dead anime is, so they take the "moral high ground" and call everyone they don't agree with pedophiles.

This is the mentality that makes every anime community outside of /a/ garbage, brought to life by the fact that the mods are asleep.
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>>100474359
there is no escape from ev/a/ threads

literally one of the few shows where discussion never ends
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>>100474882
>implying this thread discusses Eva
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>>100474783
I fail to see whats wrong with punishing pedophiles who act on their crimes. Lolicons exist nonetheless, look at this board, no ones coming for you guys.

So innocent and inoffensive they fucked them.
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>>100474793
>if they're not persons they don't deserve the rights that a person has
Human rights are given to humans, not persons.
Citizen rights are given to citizens, not persons.

One doesn't have to be a person to be a human or a citizen.

>and should be granted rights like all other non-person sentients are.
One doesn't have to get the rights of an animal just because one isn't a person.
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>TFW YOU HATE TUMBLR FEMINISTS
>TFW YOU HATE /a/LOLIPEDOS

WAT DO

PS I HATED /a/LOLIPEDOS BEFORE TUMBLR EVEN EXISTED
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>>100474880
It is one normalfag shitposter, and he switched tactics and started accusing people of being from /pol/.
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>>100474820
I assume the guy trying to say that lolicon is evil and will lead to degeneracy.

And then trying to use the ancient greeks as an example saying that the same thing could happen with lolis not to mention the hilarious historical inaccuracies, but still.

Really the use of degeneracy is the only I'm assuming is /pol/ related.
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>>100474917
>who act on their crimes
They are treated the same, it doesn't matter if they committed a crime or not.
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>>100474820

I'm not sure, but it's not /pol/ we should be accusing but /v/ as evidenced here >>100474673
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>>100474964
But this is the same guy who defended homosexuality and attacked virgins. He sounds more like some feminist who just said degeneracy to fit in and be edgy.
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>>100474925
I know, but it's still a silly way of going about things.
Rights should rest on intelligence/sapience or "personhood" not biological species.
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>>100474927
Go back to Tumblr, Take your caps lock retardation with you.
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>>100474927
Go to ANN.
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>>100474927
Embrace the loli
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>>100475057
WHAT ABOUT GAIA

YOU NEWFAG SCUM SICKEN ME
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>>100474927
>HATE /a/LOLIPEDOS

But why Anon? I thought we were cute and lovable
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>>100475101
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>>100474482
>Above the age of 6, they can consent, but they cannot do so legally and that's completely right, because it's quite hard to prove that the child really consented and wasn't subject to the superior position of the adult, which is why, in my country at least, sex between a teen (14-16) and an adult requires the parents' consent and is forbidden if the minor is below the age of 14.
just because you can't prove it doesn't mean they didn't consent, therefore it isn't rape
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>>100474985
You really cannot blame people for judging potential pedophiles for find children sexually desirable.
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>>100475021
I wouldn't say homosexuality is bad, but the fears towards it are more or less completely analogous to the fears of lolicon in that they are baseless and absurd.

Also insulting people for being virgins, nice it's like every backup plan for every internet argument ever.

>muh morals
>muh incapability to understand inhibition
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>>100475134
You can't blame people for being homophobic either then
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>>100474927
Become friend with respectable conscientious people IRL and pray for them to know anime.
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I'm confused by this thread and all this talk of pedophilia.

Why can't little girls like little girls?
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https://wikileaks.org/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn
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>>100474561
fathers would probably make fucking their daughters ever illegal if they could

that doesn't mean anything
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>>100475142
No one cares

Go have a political debate somehwere else, I just that anon who shitposts about "POL INVAAAAADING" every time someone posts something slightly politically incorrect.
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>>100475134
Stop, no one cares about how self righteous your fap material is anymore.
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>>100475148
Are you for real? sexualising consenting adults vs. sexualising children?
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>>100474563
>The logical conclusion is to make sex outside of marriage illegal.
no, because nowadays your wife can even accuse their husbands of rape
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>>100475171
too scared to click
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>>100475160
Daytime/weekend /a/, mods are asleep/fags etc. etc.
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>>100475177
>that doesn't mean anything
It means a lot, actually, since children are under custody of their parents until the age of majority
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>>100474482
>because it's quite hard to prove that the child really consented

And the person who fucked them should be presumed to have done nothing immoral unless it's proven beyond reasonable doubt that the child didn't consent? Innocent until proven guilty?
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>>100475180
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

This thread is still silly and really should have been deleted 100 posts ago.
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>>100475118
DONT MAKE ME TRIPFORCE U NEWFIG
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>>100475209
One is a sin and the other was god's mandate for 1900 years

Not saying I support pedoshits, just there's pros and minuses to everything!
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>>100475209
In both cases the potential subject of attraction does not want it.
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>implying Japan isn't the most perverted country in the world
>implying sexual harassment isn't common there
>believing official statistics
B-but it's okay when everything is about porn and sex! I bet children molestation is much more common in Japan than anywhere else. Well, groping is. Even stupid school kids do this because they don't see anything wrong with it.
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>>100475234
agreed anno would be sad
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>>100475045
An important difference here is that very young children, although not being persons, are soon to become persons, which animals will not, because the defining trait of a person is the ability to communicate and operate on language, something that animals won't do. Even that which appears to be a rudimentary understanding of simple speech commands like the phenomenons which dogs and parrots show is something completely different from understanding the language and being able to operate on it.

Besides, we DO give more intelligent animals (dolphins, dogs, apes) other rights than low-functioning life forms like plants or "stupid" animals (some sponge-thingy).
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>>100475269
In that case punish every straight men ever.
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Did someone say pedophilia? Misato here!!
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>>100475280
Anno is always sad though
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>>100475324
NAIIISSUUUU!~
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>>100475324
well
at least is eva related
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>>100475315
>every act of sex was rape
literally tumblr
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>>100475270
Why can't Japan get with quality American morals and have 13 yo girls that get pregnant to compete with friends and collect food stamps?

Clearly reality television and nigger music will enforce pure morality on those filthy nips!
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>>100475236
>[Deleted]

Hope you didn't get banned dude.
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>>100475402
At least our women don't hate sexual contact.
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>>100474724
it already was, and will be in the future
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>>100475402
Fun fact: 16 And Pregnant and those other copycat shows have actually apparently decreased the teenage pregnancy rate, despite warnings show like them might glamorize getting knocked up. Guess kids saw what it'd really be like and were NOPE.
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>>100475451
Pederasty was pubescent boys
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>>100475133
>therefore it isn't rape
I was looking at this from a civil rights perspective, not from a punitive law perspective.
The real conclusion you should've drawn was that because one can't prove it and children have a higher need for protection due to their intellect, knowledge and position, adults shouldn't have the right to engage in sexual activities with them.

>>100475228
>Innocent until proven guilty?
Only in punitive law. In civil law, it's "guilty until you prove your claim".
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>>100475444
Only when they cry rape the next day or apply for a divorce.
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>>100475294
>Besides, we DO give more intelligent animals (dolphins, dogs, apes) other rights than low-functioning life forms like plants or "stupid" animals (some sponge-thingy).
I know, and I'm saying that if under 6s aren't persons then they should be granted rights on the same basis that we give rights to dolphins, dogs, apes and other higher sentient animals.


>although not being persons, are soon to become persons
We don't have any moral obligations to potential future persons.
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>>100475479
This is not surprising in the least. It's more effective than $1000000000 worth of stay in school programs.
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>>100475134
Thanks for reinforcing my point >>100474602
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>>100475506
Yes, yes. You have no argument, so you'll complain about feminists and whores. Typical.
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>>100475479
And yet I still have to wait in line behind 3 unemployed high-school dropouts with a cart full of mixed race children buying pepsi on food stamps every time I buy groceries.
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>>100475566
Wasn't the post before this literally durr hurr Japanese women hate sex!
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>>100475582
Anecdotal evidence always trumps fact and statistics.
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>>100475566
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize your wild tabloid speculation was a legitimate fact.
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>>100475209
women always have the mind of children, so should it be illegal to ever fuck them?
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>>100475224
so it should be ok if the parents consent

parents consent all the time
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>>100475512
>they should be granted rights on the same basis that we give rights to dolphins, dogs, apes and other higher sentient animals.
From a moral perspective? Maybe. That's how some animal rights activists argue, especially ones that mostly regard the pain beings suffer from various things.
From a legal perspective right now? No. They are still humans.

As I've said, just because one isn't a person, doesn't mean that one isn't still a human or citizen and has therefore the rights of a human or citizen.
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>>100475596
Because it's true. According to surveys 40% of Japanese women don't care or hate sex. I wonder why?
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>>100475214
Install gentoo and tor
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>>100475631
You used the phrase "apparently" to defend mtv reality television garbage. That isn't evidence of anything except for being a shill.
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>>100475681
You mean statistics from some mediocre tabloid.

That and it durr hurr at least our wimmen like 2 fuck isn't an argument at all.
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>>100475674
>parents consent all the time
Of course they do, sweetie. Of course they do.
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>>100475681
>surveys
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>>100475721
No, government statistics. Here are another ones:
>According to a Cabinet Office survey conducted in the fall of 2008, 3.1 percent of Japanese women have been raped once, and 4.2 percent twice or more — making a total of 7.3 percent.
What a great country, right?! Almost 10% of women were raped at least once!
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>>100475440
LAMBO

BANS AINT SHIT, FEELS LIKE OLD TIMES
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How come the mods don't axe this thread?
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>>100473011
You're such a liar man. Like the guy on the left side of that picture. Why don't you fuck off and look up the plot summary of Galaxy Express 999 on wikipedia or whatever it is you do for this debate.
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>>100475743
who do you think makes cp?
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>>100475780
How high is sexual assault in the United States?

Nice job I almost believed you before you brought up the rape statistics
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>>100475819
There is no image in that post, stop being retarded.
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>>100475860
I don't know. I don't care about USA. But I'm sure rape is more often reported in USA than in Japan.
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>>100474820I mentioned /pol/ once, pretty sure I'm the guy singled out by >>100474880
but I fail to see how I'm a "nromalfag" if I don't advocate the banning of loli in media. Unless of course I'm a normalfag because I haven't bought the idiocy spouted by /pol/ (which is the bastion of such retarded arguments on 4chan). Regardless, that guy has either the reading comprehension of an eight year old, is blinded by prejudice, or is a troll spouting /pol/ buzzwords. So I'm right, he's wrong, and I ain't 4chan's definition of a normalfag. Fact.
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>>100475801
Mods are asleep. It's 9 or so of the clock in East-mostern USA right now.
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>>100475801
IRC payroll
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>>100475898
Speculation makes for a legitimate argument amongst idiots I hear. You'll go far with that I'm sure.
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>>100475932
Yeah, but that other guy got banned in this thread a while ago
How come they just banned some shitposter and didn't bother checking the thread?
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>>100475932
>asleep
>last ban 11 minutes ago in the list
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>>100475801
Autosaging anyway. Try to look at it in a positive light, like a containment thread or something. Let people vent the non-/a/ stuff and they'll go back to happy posting in /a/-related threads.
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>>100475827
Perhaps one out of a hundred thousand parents? That puts us at 3000 CP sources in the US. It's hard to know the exact numbers here.
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>>100475923
Most normal people don't say lolis should be illegal, they just act like normalfags, not fascists. They look down on lolicons and other groups like them. And seriously? You're saying lolicons is a /pol/ thing?
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>>100475923
You are a retard. Fact.

#rekt
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>>100475827
Russians?
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>>100475998
The only early morning mod on /a/ is a moralfag that bans people for posting images of cute girls while ignoring rampant shitposting.
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>>100475998
>>100475982
Possible explanation: Lots of people reported the /v/erminesque post, while less people reported the OP.
The OP also looks like a legitimate thread and the thread was a legitimate thread for quite a while.
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>>100475827
Who makes the pornos? The actresses and actors fucking or the producers?

Who makes an TV series or anime? The figures being depicted, the guys who drew it all or the people who funded and requested it?
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>>100476095
I got banned last week for being in a trap thread, but that was nighttime. Maybe multiple SRS mods with different agendas?
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>>100476102
Yeah, but the fucking mods don't do their job properly by actually reading the threads. If the mods actually participated in the thread by banning all discussion involving loli vs whatever then the thread would be a better place.

mods = fags
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>>100476102
THIS LITTLE DITTY? NOTHING TO DO WITH /v/, IN FACT STRAIGHT /a/
>>TFW YOU HATE TUMBLR FEMINISTS
>>TFW YOU HATE /a/LOLIPEDOS

>WAT DO

>PS I HATED /a/LOLIPEDOS BEFORE TUMBLR EVEN EXISTED
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>>100476172
I caught a 3 day ban for posting in a loli thread a few months ago while there were 10+ active IRC/Siztra threads up that lasted for hours. There are definitely moralfag mods around at the very least.
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>>100476198
That's impossible with such a small team. They are dependant on people reporting.
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>>100471777
Is Rebuild the Duke Nukem Forever of anime?
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But Anno likes Strike Witches, that's pretty moe
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>>100469450
>>Anno: When I did the TV series, there was as yet no such thing as moe. I like Sailor Moon as well.

HAH, what a faggot. Anno is fucked in the head.
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>>100469685
>Either usually wishing you were their friend, there to protect them.
Bro is moe?

Ryuko is old moe then, since I cringe at her fanservice scenes and I want to bro it up with her



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