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>2014
>still believing he's alive
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>2008+6
>implying he isn't
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It's funny because one of my coworkers, who's as normalfag as they get, for some bizarre reason watched geass over a weekend and that was the first time he told me when we talked that monday.
>"He's alive. I'm sure of it.
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I still haven't seen this.

Can't decide if its really worth it or not.
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>>100469552
You need to have watched geass to be qualified enough to partake in /a/'s discussions.
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>>100469625
>>100469668
I was just waiting for you faggots to show up.
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>>100469625
Plus let's not forget the most obvious of all hints.

Season 2 being named R2 (in the same vein as C2, V2, etc)
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>>100469686
>What Nunally saw didn't even resemble C.C.'s code at all.
Then how did she see Lelouch's memories? It just happened randomly?
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>2014
>still caring
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>>100469686
This. You guys are reading way too deep into something that just isn't there.
Also didn't the creator confirm he was dead at some point?
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>>100469625
>>100469668
http://code-geass.livejournal.com/1178870.html
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>>100469725
Official site it's gone now said that was just one of special talents due to her blindness.
Remember how she could tell when Suzaku was holding something back from her?
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>>100469728
>implying
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>>100469789
>one of special talents due to her blindness.
Now there is some fanfiction.
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>>100469728
Love is alive and well.
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>>100469789
Yes, the Japanese believe blind people are psychic.
Guess we should just put Japanese folk lore in the canon .
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It's really cute how /a/ still want to so desperately believe he is alive, even after all these years.

Our emperor is dead. Let him rest in peace.
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>>100469895
It's not that we want to believe. It's that Lelouch dying doesn't make any sense.
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>>100469864
It's word of god.
>>100469880
>geass
>resembling reality
pick one

It was just a way for Nunnally to forgive Lelouch during his death.
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Even after having the ending spoiled for me I still cried.

Nunally crying with all these people around her cheering her brother's murderer always gets me.
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>>100469938
You think that makes more sense??
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>>100469935
It makes perfect sense.
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>>100469967
It may have been a cheap way to resolve her character and subplot, but compared to the whole cart driver bullshit? Yeah definitely.
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Lelouch will die. But his soul will choose to go back in time, the time when he was happiest, and he will be at season 1 first episode. CC who loves Lelouche wants to be with him too and wants to be in a time when Lelouche'd love her, but since he already loves Suzaku she'll go back in time before Lelouche is born, and become his mother.
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Well i guess we'll find out in the Lelouch of the rebellion movie.

Btw are there any words on when it comes?
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>>100469951
Ougi's wedding picture pissed me off more.
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>>100469938
So the anime established a way to see someone's memories with the Code but when it happened between Lelouch and Nunally it was for a complete different and random reason?
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>>100470052
>>>/fanfiction.net/
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>>100470078
Ougi didn't deserve to be happy. Fucking cunt.
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>>100470081
>not recognizing old pasta
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>>100469690
R2 = Second Rebellion.

taken from cast commentary.
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>>100470026
>Brain Problems
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>repent for his sins
man he didn't gave two shits for his sins.
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>>100470137
>hurr I now have no argument so I'll resort to shitposting LOL
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>>100470131
>implying it can only have one intended meaning

It's the most obvious hint ever, man.
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>>100470075
wait a fucking minute what theres a movie coming?
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His will lives on in all of his.
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>>100470175
Well that's not true. One example was Shirley and how he fucked up her life twice, even after erasing all of her memories of him.
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>>100470183
Next you're going to tell me C.C.'s eyes were looking in the cart driver's direction when she mentioned Lelouch in the epilogue.
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>>100470131
If they wanted to call it second rebellion they'd've called it second rebellion, this way they can be all 'deep' and cool.
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>>100469742
Yeah, he did. I believe there is a one-off sequal manga where Lelouch is a ghost or some shit.
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>>100470179
Why would lelouch let himself die when he had the opportunity to get the code?
Why would he break his promise to C.c. to fulfill his plan?
Why would the narrative pull a complete flip of the theme it had of overly complex planning just to cop out with a lazy execution in the end?

If you think these questions are annoying, then you're not fit fir this discussion.
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>>100470026
But saying that she saw his memories because "hurr blind people is psychic" it's even less consistent than saying she did because Lelouch's code activated.
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>>100470296
>Why would lelouch let himself die when he had the opportunity to get the code?
>>100469686
>Why would he break his promise to C.c. to fulfill his plan?
He didn't.
>Why would the narrative pull a complete flip of the theme it had of overly complex planning just to cop out with a lazy execution in the end?
That would only be the case if her were alive. Looks like you're the one who missed the point of the ending.
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>>100470340
If they wanted to make it look like Lelouch had the code, they would've tried to make the flashback look like the code?
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>>100470216
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-01-12/code-geass/lelouch-of-the-rebellion-gets-film-project
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>>100470362
>That would only be the case if her were alive. Looks like you're the one who missed the point of the ending.

Wait, what? Did you read my question right?
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>>100470422
Loud and clear. What part of 'repent for his sins' did you not understand?
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>>100470411
The point is that she had the flashback and the only way established in the anime for that to happen is the Code activating.
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>2014
>still believing we'll get off the boat
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>>100470574
So what part of "He didn't" break his promice to C.c. did you want to elaborate on?
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>>100470614
Stop making up bullshit when you already know that's not the director and writer's intention.
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>>100470656
>writers'
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>>100470656
>that's not the director and writer's intention.
Source? Did you ask them?
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>>100470654
C.C. looked pretty happy at the end.
Which wish? 'die happy' or 'not being alone/someone there to love her'?

Let me confirm the two other points are settled.
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>>100468826
>>100468826
>implying he isnt the cart driver
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>>100470656
I'm not making anything up it's all within the rules of the series. Actually the made up thing is that "blinds are psychics so she saw his memories".
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>>100470702
Alright, that's it. I've got nothing to back that up.

I still stand by it doesn't make sense that Lelouch, who's famous for his complex deceiving plans, would end off his whole plan by martyring himself instead of putting together his last grand show to fool everyone with all the cards he had to play.
Getting to code from C.c. was one of them.

Also, going back to >>100469880
Yeah, no. I'm not letting that go. I heard about the belief they had in Japan where when someone who's blind gets their sight back they also gain other abilities. However, I've always thought that was a complete bulldhit explanation, and I'm not going with it.
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>>100470791
>I'm not making anything up it's all within the rules of the series.
Except the fact that it looks fucking nothing like the code.
They would've at least tried to make it a tad more obvious if that's what they wanted you to think.

All the 'Lelouch is cart driver' arguments are based on blind speculations drawn from very vague scenes and imagery which could have gone one way or the other if not for the hell of a confirmation bias that cartdriverfags hold, who at the same time dismisses all the actual evidence such as magazine scans and C.C.'s monologue confirming his death in the recap OVA. Hell they even told us what exactly happened to his body after his death i.e. it got thrown into the Damocles which was sent into the sun.
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>>100471062

You must be some ugly fat bullying victim kid to be that retarded.
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>>100471135
>Projecting
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>>100471062
>I still stand by it doesn't make sense that Lelouch, who's famous for his complex deceiving plans, would end off his whole plan by martyring himself instead of putting together his last grand show to fool everyone with all the cards he had to play.
Getting to code from C.c. was one of them.
Nope he fucking does not. The whole point of ZR aside from world peace, in case you missed it, was for Lelouch to repent his sins with his own death. IT WAS EXPLICITLY SHOWN IN THE FUCKING SHOW, GO REWATCH IT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK LIKE A RETARD MAKING BULLSHIT ARGUMENTS. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT THIS FOR YOU GUYS TO GET IT INTO YOUR THICK SKULLS YOU DUMBFUCKS. HIS PLAN WAS DECEPTIVE, EXCEPT IN THE EXACT OPPOSITE WAY TO WHAT YOU MENTIONED YOU FUCKING RETARD.
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>>100471214
There's no need to be upset.
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>>100470219
>Lelouch is the God-emperor of all mankind
D-Does this mean Suzaku is who I think he is?
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>Our immortal Emperor
>Dying
>Ever
HERESY!
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>>100471289
I'm not.
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>>100471214
I'm not letting this go until you find an explanation to Nunnally's psychic powers that isn't horrible writing.

>IT WAS EXPLICITLY SHOWN IN THE FUCKING SHOW, GO REWATCH IT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOUR SO MANY FUCKING CAPS THAT'S NOT MAKING THIS EASIER TO READ

It's just like I said. Lelouch has made deceiving plans in the past to fool people in to doing things.
ZR was just another show.
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>>100471402
Please, not now.
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>>100470225
well thats shirley, shes the exception, shes the character who got shat on the MOST in this show
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>Akito movie 4 ends
>Kingsley is final boss, killed by Akito
>Epilogue being spoken by Leila
>Talking about how much better the world is after the final war
>Epilogue ends as Akito and Leila are walking through the french countryside
>Cart passes them
>Akito stops walking
>"What's wrong?"
>"That cartdriver...looked a lot like Julius Kingsley"
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>>100471452
>I'm not letting this go until you find an explanation to Nunnally's psychic powers that isn't horrible writing.
>isn't horrible writing.
top fucking kek
I love Geass for all it's brilliant characters and drama but you must be fucking retarded to think the writing wasn't fucking horrible for half the episodes in R2.
It was a quick and easy plot device for Nunners' resolution. Lot of anime does that. Deal with it.
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>>100471575
Yeah, I knew you would just leave it as

>I love Geass for all it's brilliant characters and drama
>hurr but all the writing in geass was horrible hurr

Then why are you defending it?
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>>100471567
Look at him, look at him and laugh.
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>>100471206
>butthurt about truth
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>>100471791
Dishing out fundamentally wrong insults doesn't help an argument.
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>>100471651
Geass has its bad parts but personally I think the aforementioned things it does good, it does better than almost everything else.

>entire china arc
>c.c.'s hurr imma immortal and I wanna die XD bullshit that retcon'd everything shown in S1
>orange-kun LOYALTY maymay bullshit
>ninja maido
>millitary strategies getting turned into a battle of SCIENCE by the end

>not shit writing

If you really want to believe Lelouch had the code and ignore everything intended by creators, sure go ahead. I couldn't give less of a shit, write your fanfiction. Just don't try to convince others that it's anything more than your headcanon.
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>>100471651

Why do you insist being a retarded whoreson?

Asides from the fact that your mother is a semen toilet, that is.
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>>100471842
>implying you won't cry yourself to sleep this night because i reminded you of your life as a complete failure
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>>100471886
>ignore everything intended by creators
Source?
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>>100472006
Read the fucking thread shitlord.
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>>100471452
>It's just like I said. Lelouch has made deceiving plans in the past to fool people in to doing things.
>ZR was just another show.
Except there's not point to lie to himself and C.C., dipshit.
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>>100472068
>not
no*
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>>100471886
I'm arguing for consistency, and I'm saying adding in folklore that wasn't mentioned previously ever is Bleach filler season horrible writing.
Seeing Lelouch's memories because he had the code is a point towards it being part of his plan.

>Just don't try to convince others that it's anything more than your headcanon

And just how the fuck would an interpretation of an ending that I'm claiming was vague intentionally matter to anyone?? The anime is over! Different interpretations of the ending doesn't effect the rest of the story at all.
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Fuck are you people going on about? The show ended with Lelouch getting captured and Suzaku revealing himself as a traitor. There was no season 2. You people are insane.
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>>100472029
A page from a magazine with a list of people who died?

Yeah that really shows everything the creators intented.
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>>100472099
What the fucking are you even trying to argue anymore?
Are you just that unwilling to accept one shit (but canon) explanation for the other?

If you want to argue consistency then you should've stopped watching right from when R2 began. Consistency doesn't even apply to Code Geass.
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>>100472188
It's the official fanbook. And yes, it does.


If you want more proof you could always watch c.c.'s ending monologue in the Zero Requiem OVA.
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>>100472193
>Are you just that unwilling to accept one shit (not canon) explanation for the other?
FTFY

Yes!

>>100472239
>Implying a fanbook and OVA has any credibility
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>>100472239
>It's the official fanbook. And yes, it does.

not samefagging, but
>what writtein in a fanbook is canon.

Just like Sabo situation right?

That's make me laught so much.
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>>100472316
i believe that this is legitimate and will add it to the case
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>>100472283
>>100472351
Yeah? Because it's the official words from Taniguchi and Okouchi and not some delusional /a/utist on the internet?

>implying your shitty fanfiction tier explanation that contradicts the show both thematically and character-wise has any credibility

>>100472316
>>100472388
lel
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>>100472316
I was almost expecting to see gutsman's ass.
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>>100472402
again, in One Piece fanbooks Oda declare one thing: Sabo is dead.

And guess what? He is alive.

I don't care a shit about Code Geass anymore (except for bait thread like this), but your argument is inalid from the beginning.
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>>100472456
>again, in One Piece fanbooks Oda declare one thing: Sabo is dead.
Retcons are common and expected in a piece of work unfinished.
Money hungry manga publishers want popular artists to extend their work so they have to keep pulling bullshit out of their asses in order to generate more material. But lets be real here and say that Oda did intend for him to stay dead at the time of the fanbook's publication.

The Geass book was printed -after- the show ended. There's nothing left to retcon. Until Sunraisu feels the need to milk more out of the cash cow and say, make R3, we say for the time being he is, in fact, dead.

What kind of explanations do you want? For an argument where you guys can't even source ANYTHING for support
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>>100472283
>>Implying a fanbook and OVA has any credibility
You really are getting desperate aren't you?
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What will you do if last episode of Akito will have epilogue set after R2 showing that cartdriver is Julius Kingsley
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>>100469725
>>100469935
>>100470080
Okay, why don't you fuckers try to explain how exactly he obtained the code instead of just dismissing my argument and official statements? >>100469625 has already been proven to be incorrect.
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>>100473143
Spam threads on /a/ and see faggots being TOLD.
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>>100473143
>>100473253
I sure hope you guys are trolling.
Even /a/ can't be this retarded.
Do you watch your chinese cartoons with your eyes closed or something?
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>>100473279
Do you need your chinese cartoons to spoonfeed you everything? Can't you follow the obvious clues?
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>>100473279
How about actually arguing based on merit instead of using arbitrary fallacies and looking like a pretentious idiot?
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>>100468826
>thinking he's not the cart driver
Wow what a nerd.
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>>100473246
But >>100469625 already explains how she got the code.
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>>100473323
>>100473340
Go ahead and go what >>100473253 said, then see what kind of responses you get.

I'll tell you now we've had faggots like you in every Geass thread since the 2nd ep of Akito.
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>>100473279
>Do you watch your chinese cartoons with your eyes closed or something?
Yes, because I want to feel like I'm Chinese.
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>>100473246
Charles gave it to him when he was strangling him with his code-hand for whatever reason. That's why he told Suzaku to not interfere.
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>>100473431
I'm not sure if I should even respond to you guys seriously or not.
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>>100473547
>Implying you can prove it's wrong.
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>>100473624
But I already did you fucking mongoloid. Do you even see the first post that's immediately quoting it?
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>>100473699
>But I already did you fucking mongoloid
No, you didn't.
All your posts are just
>You're retarded if you think that.
>This is what I think

You're clearly not interested in rebuttal.
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>>100473806
Let me hold your hand, try not to get lost this time, okay?
>>100469686
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>>100473699
Wasn't that statement made by an animator, and not any of the producers or directors?

Because I remember the producers and directors saying that they made it vague on purpose.
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>>100473894
Oh wait, I was wrong.
It's more like this

>This is what I think
>You're retarded if you think that.

Sorry for my mistake.
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>>100473956
>Points supported with explicit scenes from the show
>>This is what I think
>>You're retarded if you think that.

Nothing left to do now but kill yourself.
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>>100474019
You didn't answer a single question in the whole thread.
You're just being arbitrary.
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Note that CC is wearing the same dress she's wearing in the final scene.

Lelouch was confirmed alive and cart driver on official art.
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>>100474091
What questions?
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>>100474092
>dismisses official statement from director and writer
>using a random animator's work as 'proof'

Talk about hypocrisy.
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>>100474154

>>100470296
Let's go back to this.
I thought I was done here, because I'm getting exhausted.

Your answer to the first question was Lelouch wanted to repent his sins, and I said it doesn't make sense he would be a martyr when he had an opportunity to get the code and just trick people in to thinking he was a martyr. You shrugged it off as retarded.

Your answer to breaking the promise to C.c. wasn't an answer at all.

Your answer to the third question (Which I should have written better in hindsight) was that Oh yeah, the ending was shitty. Deal with it.

It's not that I don't like the ending where lelouch dies. It just raises too many unanswered questions.
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>>100474194
She wasn't a writer or a director. She was an animator. The creator, Toro Taniguchi said nothing.
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>>100474302
>From Lelouch's character profile page:
>"Lelouch, who gathered not just his sister's but the sins of all of his kin, tells Suzaku that he wants him to kill him. And, atoning for his sin of killing his father by becoming Zero and devoting himself to world peace. That is Suzaku's wish. Pierced by Suzaku's sword, Lelouch dies with a satisfied smile on his face. The curtains are lowered upon the history of one boy who performed the perfect 'evil' to the end."

Just how long are you going to keep telling yourself he wanted immortality? Forget about details, him -pretending' to be a martyr undermines the whole theme of the show and destroy any credibility of the character as well as the impact of the ending. There's just no good reason keeping him alive.

>Your answer to breaking the promise to C.c. wasn't an answer at all.
Because you never actually followed up on my question dipshit. >>100470702
For the record, there's nothing against the argument that C.C. doesn't actually -need- Lelouch alive to 'die happy'. And also not that you're going to care but in the scans it is said her wish changed to 'observe the new world Lelouch created' or something along the lines of that.

>Your answer to the third question (Which I should have written better in hindsight) was that Oh yeah, the ending was shitty. Deal with it
Can you just stop putting words into my mouth for once? Yeah it was the official explanation. You're the one who finds it shitty because you couldn't accept the fact it doesn't lend any favors to your argument. For me it was a abrupt resolution to a subplot that didn't really matter. It was just there so Nunnally didn't hate her brother until the very end. It was done for the sake of UNDERSTANDING. The staff agreed, stop bothering them about it.

And you're jumping to conclusions.
>Nunners saw a brief flashback
>look haha it must be the code XDD Lelouch is alive guise LOLOL
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>>100469552
Watch it

It's a fun and all around entertaining show
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>>100474302
Your whole argument really hinges on >If Nunnally isn't a psychic then Lelouch must have the code which is really weak.
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>>100475474
What the fuck. Did joot change the rules on mid-line greentexting again?
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Guys what about Julius Kingler
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>>100474091
I did answer those questions nigger, you're just not satisfied with them until they say 'lelouch is cart driver and fucking pizza butt every night on the haystack.'
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>>100473806
> Being this retard
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>>100474338
ftfy
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>>100474092

This is actually a poster from a magazine, not from the DVD or BD dude. Don't be a misleading guy. "Official" art means absolutely nothing, it's for promotional purposes.
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>>100470080

The anime does establish or imply a few times that Nunnally can tell if someone is lying or not by holding their hand. This would allegedly just be a glorified extension of that.
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>>100471886
>>c.c.'s hurr imma immortal and I wanna die XD bullshit that retcon'd everything shown in S1

I don't see that being a retcon at all. It seems only your interpretation.

>orange-kun LOYALTY maymay bullshit

They set it up in a picture drama, at least.

>ninja maido

What is an in-joke and having fun?

>millitary strategies getting turned into a battle of SCIENCE by the end

What's wrong with unrealistic plans in an unrealistic world?

>not shit writing

Apparently anything you dislike is.

At the same time, the fact of the matter is Code Geass leaves the ending very much open to ambiguous readings, so don't complain if people pick one of them.
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>>100472193
>Consistency doesn't even apply to Code Geass.

On the contrary, there is a bit of consistency to its madness. It's kind of an obvious one too.
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>>100472402
>Because it's the official words from Taniguchi and Okouchi and not some delusional /a/utist on the internet?

Most fanbooks aren't directly written by the staff, they're just licensed out.



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