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Now that we've had over a decade to collect our thoughts, what's your honest opinion on Dragon Ball GT?

I thought it was pretty mediocre all the way through, and making Goku a kid again was an exceptionally dumb idea, but I actually liked the final saga and I especially liked the way it ended. I thought it was actually a good farewell for the Dragon Ball universe.

inb4 not canon
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>>100457374
if goku is stronger than shenron, can he grant wishes?
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>>100457374
It had a good idea, making it about adventure again instead of just power creep.

But the execution was fucking awful.
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Also, I have to ask:

What did you think of SSJ4?
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>>100457755
vegeta is a sore loser
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>>100457755
Not as retarded as 3.
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The only good things about GT were the concept of the Dragon Balls corrupting due to overuse and a proper ending, Bulma's monologue of when they met and all they went through was really emotional specially with the various scenes.
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>>100457755

Step aside, new hotness coming through.
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>>100458036
I liked the ending before Z better.
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>>100457755
Worst forced level.
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>>100457374
GT was so bad I want to forget about it. What could you possibly get out of posting threads.
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>>100457755
Made my dick hard. That arc (Goku going SSJ4 in Baby's Arc) and the Omega Shenron Arc were the only parts of the show I watched. I enjoyed it.

As a kid, seeing SSJ4 Gogeta blew my fucking mind. I can only hope they will remain as characters in future DBZ games. I want my SSJ4 vs SSJG battle!
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>>100458568
>As a kid
Jesus fuck young people creep me out and remind me I'm old. I was in college when GT aired in Japan.
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>>100457755
The idea was nice, taking power from their wild monkey roots to achieve a new level. Besides from this, GT sucks.
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>>100458603

you were in college in 1996?
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I never watched it.
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It was filled with good ideas with shitty execution
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It was like most of the Toei original Dragon Ball stories. Full of bland fighting choreography and reused ideas. They could kinda get away with that in movies since those were 45 mins~ long but not with a series. Also they weren't very good at using the cast. I guess making Trunks into Yamcha and Pan into Bulma didn't work out for them so they ditched everyone but Goku. That said, some of the designs were cool(Yi Xing Long is one) and the original Japanese score is decent.

I prefer the Dragon Ball Online backstory as the ending or the "never-ending" ending of the manga.
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>>100458603
this faggot is almost 40 now
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>>100457755
It made use of that useless giant ape form they have and neglect. I liked that much.

>>100457434
Shenron is a powerful thing. I always felt it needed to be addressed as endgame material. Plus, it has to do with the title of the show.
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>>100457755
I think is better than three. The design is a bit too busy for my taste still but props for dropping the golden hair and bringing back the tail.
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>>100458845

and on /a/
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>>100458845
What isn't everyone?
>>100459152
Still on /a/. I've been here since we were /b/.
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>>100457374
Not canon.
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GT was a good attempt to try to return to the early days of Dragon Ball. I felt it was better than Z and on par with Kai. Some ideas were nice and I felt the Shadow Dragon Saga was one of the higher points of the series, calling out all the times the Dragon Balls were used frivolously. And damn all the plotholes, Mystic Gohan bullshit, etc. Z did all of that and then some. Remember Tien? Chiaotzu? Yajirobe? Z didn't. And it got things done fast and quickly. It's not that bad and the whole canon/non-canon shit is retarded. Battle of Z didn't retcon shit at all. It may as well be on the same length as GT. Akira forgot shit as early as Majunior. I don't trust him to dictate shit at all.

Lastly, GT gave us this hot piece of ass.
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>>100458802
>I prefer the Dragon Ball Online backstory as the ending or the "never-ending" ending of the manga.
I'm still sad that that ended without ever getting even a tie-in comic or something. It had Majin girls, in every flavor.

At least there's still Dragon Ball Heroes, I guess.
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Which flavor saiyan loli is best, /a/?
Blueberry, strawberry, or lemon grape?
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>>100459840
>I don't trust him to dictate shit at all.

People always bitch about Toriyama's memory, but ignore the fact that he was competent enough to not only write a damn good pre-story for that one failed DB MMO, but remember enough of the DB-related lore to not shit on the established story, even half as hard as Toei did with GT in its entirety.

GT was and will remain the worst of the Dragon Ball related franchises simply because while you can bitch until you're blue in the face how horrible the Buu Saga was, the series never went full retard like GT did, where characters were killed off/damned for eternity for sake of killing them off (Piccolo, Kuririn and Goku), with easily the most contrived story you could think up; which while has a shitload of potential to be interesting, Toei did nothing but repeatedly piss those story ideas away by being too fucking cheap to animate it worth a fuck, after the millions they've raked in off of Toriyama's works over the years.

The only thing(s) redeemable about GT were its soundtrack and ending, the latter of which is dogshit compared the new ending of the manga.
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>>100460167

Majin girls are too qt, man.
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>>100457374
>what's your honest opinion on Dragon Ball GT?

It's shit that freely shit all over the redeemable aspects of the Dragon Ball manga and anime by being a mindless cash-in that didn't do the source material the least amount of justice.

Dragon Ball Online's prestory is better written than GT, if only because it doesn't go out of its way of taking a fat shit on the few things that made DBZ, as a series, entertaining.
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>>100460311
Z killed off Yamcha, Tien and Chiaotzu. But wait, that didn't matter. The Dragon Balls could just be used over and over. One thing I give GT credit for was when a hero died, they died. Sure, the ending revived everyone but Goku took responsibility for all the times they overused it. I'll take that over silly story the MMORPG did any day. And I still don't discard it entirely. The Buu saga was an attempt to go back to the lighthearted humor Akira was used to with his one-offs and of course every Z faggot hated it. And the story was never good, even with Kai. Vegeta was going to destroy the earth? The same earth where Majin Buu was resting? You think Babidi was going to have that? What about Gero, the Red Ribbon Army and the cyborgs? You mean to tell me if he won that battle, they'd just sit there and let it happen? That's why I don't take non-canon/canon faggots seriously. Whatever you attack GT for, Z did it already.
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>>100457374
It had some decent art in it. I was watching the fight between Goku and baby on that second planet he made and I dug the colour schemes.
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>>100460874
Didn't Babidi leave buu's cocoon on earth thousands of years ago?
And how would Gero have been able to stop Vegeta? He was still gathering data at that point so he wouldn't have had anything on hand stron enough to stop him.

The one continuity error that bugs me was gero being shocked by Goku becoming a super saiyan. If he saw the fight with Trunks and Freiza he should have been aware of their ability to transform.
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>>100460454
>the redeemable aspects of the Dragon Ball manga and anime

what are these redeemable aspects
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>>100461166
He stopped monitoring the group after the Vegeta fight.
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>>100461306
So how did he gather Frieza's dna?
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I cried in the final episode.

Like the first anime that i was following in my life since childhood finally comes to an end, in a paradox of the shota-goku saying good-bye to everybody.

Also,
>dat fight against krillin

Fuck, i'm tearing already.
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>>100460874
>Z killed off Yamcha, Tien and Chiaotzu.

And let them train all be somewhat useful later, even if they weren't directly responsible for saving the day.

GT killed Piccolo off and trapped him to hell for eternity. Go fuck yourself if you seriously think Z did worse than GT in that regard.

The only people who seriously bitched about the Buu saga are Cell Saga nostalgiafags, if only for Gohan.
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>>100461291
Early Dragon Ball is fun, well drawn romp with a genuine sense of adventure.
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>>100461419
The sense of adventure stops after the first arc which is a couple of chapters. It becomes centered on the fighting after that and that is the highlight. Toriyama just drew damn good fight scenes.
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>>100461405
>train all be somewhat useful later
Yamcha was never useful.
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>>100461398
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pt3dwan31M

>hitori janai in the background

Too much pain for me.
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>>100461166
A million, actually. And considering that the others struggled with Gero, I'd imagine that Gero could oneshot everyone in the Saiyan Saga, Vegeta included. Hell, 17 and 18 did just that and it took three years for them to just barely keep from getting killed.
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>>100461356
He gave up on the Cell project and let his computer collect all the data and that. Remember, Cell is actually from the future.
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>>100461469
Nah. The sense of adventure continues in the red ribbon saga.
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Seeing Bulma age made me sad, She starts off as this perky beautiful teen and by the end she is a wrinkled, old stressed out grandma.
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>>100460874

>And the story was never good, even with Kai. Vegeta was going to destroy the earth? The same earth where Majin Buu was resting? You think Babidi was going to have that? What about Gero, the Red Ribbon Army and the cyborgs? You mean to tell me if he won that battle, they'd just sit there and let it happen? That's why I don't take non-canon/canon faggots seriously. Whatever you attack GT for, Z did it already.

DBZs story was a hell of a lot more entertaining as a whole compared to GT, since half of the episodes weren't regulated to a narrative that couldn't even commit to its core idea of space travel. What ruined GT from the start was the piss poor characterization that turned Son Goku from a guy who loved fighting, but just happened to be a hero that protected his home planet, into a glory-hogging end all, be all douchebag who HAD to be the one to fight each threat.

Baby Vegeta took over Earth and assimilated the planet's denizens into a neo-Truffle army? Goku better save the day, never mind letting Uubu, Gotenks or Gohan do something!

Dr. Gero and Dr. Muu escaped hell with a new Hell Fighter Android? Forget Gohan, Vegeta, Uubu and Gotenks, who are all too stupid not to use energy blasts on him, better wait until Goku gets out of hell to save us!

Dark Dragons wanting revenge for the decades of Dragon Balls misuse, better get Bulma's ass out there to reason with them, since she's the person who's responsible for--NOPE! BETTER GET GOKU OUT THERE!
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>>100459283
Most people here are probably younger than 25
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Can we agree that Dan Dan Kokoru is one of the greatest openings in anime history?
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Needed more cute saiyan girls doing cute saiyan things.
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>>100461587
All he does is move around and change the background for the fight scenes. He one shots Silver, goes to the Game of Death Tower, fights Blue, fights Tao, and then storms the base. I mean it has more adventure in it than the Cell arc I guess but the mystical adventure really ends after the first.
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>>100461501
Yes but as stated here >>100461306 he was still in the process of monitoring them.
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>>100457436
This. I also think that after all the evolution that Dragon Ball had over the years (from adventure to battle shonen) you just can't revert it again. They were super obvious about it turning Goku into a kid and all. It just didn't work and it was really disappointing.
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>>100461405
You forgot the use of the Dragon Balls bringing them back. And what did they do? Get fucked up again. All they served was to gain fans who wanted to see them save the day. And for Piccolo, he was demoted by Buu. He couldn't do shit to him. Piccolo chose to go to Hell to save Goku. And I'd imagine that Goku got him out of there going by the final episode. What Goten/Trunks/Uub/Gohan did in GT, those other four did in Z, get fucked up and have Goku save the damn day. It was the same shit I saw then. GT is better for not dragging it on forever. I'll take an honorable death over having filler just spout lines to fill up the twenty minute gap.
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>>100461495
>>100461398
>>100461661
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-PUL4Oa7r0
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>>100461469

The sense of adventure stayed all the way until King Piccolo. The fights were what made the story fun, along with the training scenes and watching Goku and Kuririn grow up.

>>100461489
>Yamcha was never useful.

Yeah. You watch DBZ Abridged, we get it. Yamcha couldn't do shit to Dr. Gero, but at least was useful enough to make sure Goku got home and took his medication.
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>>100457436
That's just the problem. Dragonball GT was trying to add that old-school adventure to the series again.

But turning Goku into a kid isn't going to fix that. It's not going to undo most of what happened in Dragonball Z. It can't change the fact that they just finished defeating an ancient demon over and over again in the last series. It can't change all of that dimensional shit.

The spirit of anything Dragonball related died once Trunks came. And I don't say this as Trunks being a shitty character, but the overall shift in tone and presentation of the series.

I will say this for DBGT
The music is fantastic. I don't mean the OST, I mean the intro/outro themes. And I agree with the OP, it had a good sendoff to the series
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>>100461772
>And I'd imagine that Goku got him out of there going by the final episode

Except that we know for a fact that Goku didn't get him out of there, since Goku himself assumes Piccolo will get out of hell someday.

GT is shit for even killing Piccolo off with Earth. Just because it's shit that didn't think as long as DBZ it's still shit.
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>>100457755
It was a nice turn, using the roots ofthe Oozaru design for it. But as it was SO forced and went away if the iconic Super Saiyan that was already a trademark for DBZ it did not work well. GT is the epitome of nice ideas that are executed really poorly in a series that should have ended already.
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>>100461825
>The sense of adventure stayed all the way until King Piccolo
There is one adventure, a James Bond-type arc, and 3 tournaments before the Daimao arc.
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>>100461678
What's going on in this gif? There's just some dust flying up I don't understand at all
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>>100461714
There was plenty of stuff that would be considered 'adventure' in those arcs. Just because its not as neck deep in it's lore as one pice doesn't mean its not an 'adventure series.
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>>100461969
You're silly.
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>>100461779
Watching this made me sad
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>>100460311
>People always bitch about Toriyama's memory, but ignore the fact that he was competent enough to not only write a damn good pre-story for that one failed DB MMO, but remember enough of the DB-related lore to not shit on the established story, even half as hard as Toei did with GT in its entirety.

This.

This isn't even a thread about questioning the quality of GT (everyone knows it's shit). It's just a thread for those underage nostalgia spergs who grew up with GT.

That you actually have people legitimately trying to defend the shitty parts of GT is sad enough; it's the hilarious fact that they're trying to do so by using DBZ
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>>100461975
Not any more than in the other arcs(save for the very first). It becomes Hong Kong Cinema when Kuririn appears. There is bits of adventure in all the arcs but I wouldn't call it an adventure manga.
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>>100461772
Uub was the most disappointing in my opinion. All those years away for the family to train an utter disappointment who will never surpass you.
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>>100462112
Yes but it's still there. What exsactly would you consider an adventure series.
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>>100462086
Nothing really says he wrote the story for the Online game. I don't think we really know how much he did. The only thing we know is that he had to OK everything.
But yes, fans do exaggerate his forgetfulness quite a bit. And he can easily get back in the swing of things as we see in BoG.
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Can we talk about best girl now?
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>>100461619
Goku was still a guy that loved fighting. Blame the glory-hogging on Japan. They wanted Goku. Akira wanted Gohan and possibly Goten/Trunks to take the helm. Doesn't help that he wasn't involved in the project. Once again. What you listed happened in Z with Yamcha, Tien, Chiaotzu and Piccolo. But of course they get a pass for whatever reason(I won't judge and say it's nostalgia). And remember Goku's grandkid? She was there alongside him, doing just as much work up until Nouva. She practically took out Oceanius Shenron on her own.
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>>100461597
Holy shit Murata can draw grills
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>>100462205
His dances were fucking hilarious and Frieza's face when he was doing so was gold. Yet he was a part of really good fights and has interesting powers. Man there's nothing wrong about Namek Saga.
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>>100457374

I thought GT was garbage growing up, back when it was first announced. Throughout the speculation, prior to the first episode's airdate, I actually gave it a fair shot, but there was so much wasted potential in GT that I couldn't help but loathe it by the time its run ended.

Say what you want about Dragonball, but the series is iconic; it's amazing how badly they did with this series, despite having all that advance knowledge to draw from after working on DBZ for so long.

It's like they went out of their way to get people who didn't give a shit about DBZ nor cared to research what made the original series so great. The fights were horrendous in GT and that's saying something compared to how shitty some of the filler fights were towards the end of DBZ.
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>>100462079
i cry everytime i watch those scenes
no kidding
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>>100462205
Why did he never attempt to switch bods with frieze?
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>>100462303
Sadly we will never see the Ginyu force do neat space things.
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>>100462319
so you didn't liked the final episode
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>>100462430
Same reason why trained soldiers never kill their leader. Respect.
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>>100462430
Because Frieza is short.
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>>100462430
Because it was slow and Frieza would have gotten the fuck out of the way
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>>100462256
>And remember Goku's grandkid? She was there alongside him, doing just as much work up until Nouva. She practically took out Oceanius Shenron on her own.

See, I made a point to purposely ignore GT Pan, partly because she was an absolutely terrible character, on her own, but due to the fact that she was a far cry from the awesome granddaughter of Son Goku and Mr. Satan we see at the end of Dragon Ball Z.

That they made a point to make Pan a spoiled, obnoxious brat in GT, when her characterization prior to this had her growing up to be a mini-Goku, is horrible enough, it's that they made a point of swapping Goten out for GT Pan, on the 'Grand Tour' aspect of GT is what killed any value the character had.

Going back non-Saiyan characters, I could give them a pass for being useless in DBZ since they were eclipsed by the Saiyans relatively early, but that's no excuse for Goten, Trunks, Gohan and especially Uubu getting sidelined in GT, whereas Vegeta got a free powerup literally pulled out of his ass. Goku was made to be a glory-hog because it was highly likely they didn't even remember how the write the rest of Saiyan characters. Gohan didn't even have his 'ultimate' state, much less they pissed away several opportunities to have adult Gotenks do something.
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>>100461920
And what if he did? We never saw what happened between then and next generation. We know Goku is still dead and the Dragon Balls came back.

>>100462086
And yet it's okay to have nostalgia for Z. Yeah, ignore all the flaws and whatnot, I grew up with it and that gives it protection. Bruce Faulconer for life.

>>100462122
And this is one thing I can say about GT that it did wrong. You had an opportunity to try to give the torch to someone. Akira obviously made him to be that potential hero that the Earth needed. Now why did they not go that route? Hell, Goten, Trunks, Pan and him could have been the main cast of GT. Mix some lighthearted Dragon Ball adventure with some Z action. It was flawed, but when you compare it to Z, which did the same fucking thing, I can cut it some slack.
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>>100462466
>so you didn't liked the final episode

The music was great. But Goku fusing with the Dragonballs and disappearing forever was a shitty ending, if only because Bulma's old ass should have been the one to take some form of responsibility for the years of Dragon Ball misuse since she made the radar in the first place.
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>>100462632
>And what if he did?
pls.
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>>100461495
Wow, never knew Jap Dub Krillin was Luffy.
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This is now Thread's Theme

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiDoVzuwVnA

Carry one with the discussion, but you have to listen this in the background.
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>>100462632
>It was flawed, but when you compare it to Z, which did the same fucking thing, I can cut it some slack.

There was no scenes of them pissing someone's potential away. Gohan actually got all his potential unlocked eventually and lost due to being a fucking moron. The same with Goten and Trunks, despite mastering fusion got outsmarted by Super Buu.

That's far and away a better lesson than having this character that Toriyama literally sacrifice the ending of the series on not do ANYTHING of significance, in the sequel, despite them killing off Mr. Buu to power him up. Fuck GT for what they did to Uub.
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>>100462632
>And what if he did? We never saw what happened between then and next generation. We know Goku is still dead and the Dragon Balls came back.

If he did, they would have made a point to show it. They didn't, not even in the GT special, so Piccolo is probably still in hell.
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>>100462256
>And remember Goku's grandkid? She was there alongside him, doing just as much work up until Nouva. She practically took out Oceanius Shenron on her own.

>GT Pan

Not even once.
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>>100462774
You can tell they were really hesitate on trying something new. Trunks is old school Yamcha, Pan is old school Bulma, and half the story arcs were used before. I think they simply didn't know what to do with our little Indian friend and feared losing their fanbase by going out of their way to do something new(which is why GT sucked).
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>>100462872
>Trunks is old school Yamcha

That's the perfect description for GT Trunks. Dude was complete ass. I would have rather Goku bring Gohan and Goten along to search for the Dragonballs.

It's also rather lame how neither Marron nor Bra take an interests in martial arts, whereas Pan who should have been a bad ass, at this age, turned into a pre-teen bitchy whore.

Living in a household with Chichi and Videl, as as a grandmother and mother respectively, I don't see how Pan could have turned out so shitty.
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>>100462594
We can argue that being a teenager and being away from Goku for so long changed her. That's called character development. Same happened with Goten and Trunks. No need to fight? So be it. Things changed. And I didn't hate it. Was it the best? No. Did she get better? Yes. She did her share of work. Uub wasn't a Saiyan. He should get a pass too. That said, you're right about the wasted potential. I feel that way too.
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>>100463041
>Living in a household with Chichi and Videl, as as a grandmother and mother respectively, I don't see how Pan could have turned out so shitty.

Because Mr. Satan probably spoiled her rotten. That and Gohan seems like the type of parent too beta to discipline his daughter, who seemed to be out dating grown men.
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>>100462632
>Bruce Faulconer

I can't watch DBZ any other way other than his glorious soundtrack. I dont know why people hate his shit. It fit way better with the action shonen parts of the show.

How can you not love this shit?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-pVJ3w0tJI
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GT should been more of a focus on Gohan and Trunks. Have them go into space and have Piccolo be there mentor. They meet some cute alien girl along the way who joins their adventure instead of having Pan and her robot
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>>100463057
>We can argue that being a teenager and being away from Goku for so long changed her. That's called character development. Same happened with Goten and Trunks. No need to fight? So be it. Things changed. And I didn't hate it. Was it the best? No. Did she get better? Yes. She did her share of work. Uub wasn't a Saiyan. He should get a pass too. That said, you're right about the wasted potential. I feel that way too.

'Being a teenager' is never an excuse for ruining a potentially great character. The only thing worst than what they did to Pan is how they made a point to have Son Goku neglect his family for years, when Toriyama himself made a point to show that not only Son Goku spent plenty of time with his family, after DBZ, but Uub eventually was living with Goku's family, whereas GT just had Goku being an asshole despite being able to teleport him whenever he wanted to.
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>>100462824
They didn't show anyone in the special. No one. Just Pan and Goku. It goes both ways.

>>100462774
Basically, what happened in Z happened in GT. You kinda said what I've been saying all this time. But it goes back to>>100462872, the fanbase was fixed on Goku to the point where they couldn't do shit. Toei, Akira, no one could do a damn thing about it.

>>100462854
Play dumb if you want but she did her work.
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>>100462632
>And yet it's okay to have nostalgia for Z. Yeah, ignore all the flaws and whatnot, I grew up with it and that gives it protection. Bruce Faulconer for life.

I don't see anywhere in my post saying that blind nostalgia is good for either. I didn't even grow up with the dubbed version of Dragonball, but thanks for assuming though.

GT is shit because from start to finish it never once gives you the impression that the people working on it studied the source material.

GT's OST and ending save it from being irredeemable, but I still find it hot garbage compared to DBZ, since the latter, at its worst had its author behind it making it what it was.

GT was just a bunch of asshole at Toei who only watched a handle of episode of DBZ trying to cash in on the popularity of the first series.
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>>100463197
>GT should been more of a focus on Gohan and Trunks. Have them go into space and have Piccolo be there mentor. They meet some cute alien girl along the way who joins their adventure instead of having Pan and her robot

You could write a book about all the scenarios that would have been better than the shit we got in GT. And I agree that it should have been Goten and Trunks. I wouldn't have minded Pan if she wasn't so annoying in GT.
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If you haven't cried with GT's last episode, you are dead inside.
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>>100463188
Easy: It doesn't fit Dragon Ball. The upbeat adventurous score? That's Dragon Ball. That synthesized shit Bruce 'composed'(and it was found out he didn't even composed it)? That belongs on a shitty US-funded show. It has no place in any Dragon Ball related media. All the fools breastfed on Z's dub need to be beaten.

>>100463204
But whiny and bratty defines a teenage girl to a T.
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>>100463341
>They didn't show anyone in the special. No one. Just Pan and Goku.

Which means that they didn't even give a shit about Piccolo to give the character closure.

>Basically, what happened in Z happened in GT.

What happened in Z, happened to moved the story along and make the reader/watcher wonder how the fuck would Goku/Goten/Gohan/Vegeta or whoever will win after screwing up, whereas GT character, especially Uub and Gohan got shafted because the producers were too damn lazy to write a decent fight. That's why you had retarded scenes like Vegeta, Goten, Trunks and Gohan all stupidly taking turns shooting ki-blasts at Super Android 17, while he absorbed everything.

I don't think it can all be neatly pinned on the Goku fanbase, given GT Trunks was the second most popular character on the show. It was more to the tune that they were trying to pander to new fans while ignore the old ones.
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>>100463579
>whereas GT character, especially Uub and Gohan got shafted because the producers were too damn lazy to write a decent fight. That's why you had retarded scenes like Vegeta, Goten, Trunks and Gohan all stupidly taking turns shooting ki-blasts at Super Android 17, while he absorbed everything.

Fucking retarded. The fights in GT were sloppy as hell and ended with more beam-spam than Z. That was my main complaint about Gt.

The story of Baby could have been amazing if Toei weren't so goddamn cheap. Hell, bad guys coming back from hell and the Dark Dragons were also damn good stories, but they shit the bed when it came to execution.

I think the only reason GT's ending get such high praise is because it's written like it was actually well-thought out instead of them just writing out an excellent story then going out of their way to fuck it up, like they did throughout GT.
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>>100463347
That wasn't directed towards you personally. I even made mention of not singling out anyone for nostalgia unless they deliberately point out they do. And some people DO have that mindset. Too many.
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>>100463550
FACT: If you really believe DBZ sub> dub. then you are a fucking idiot.
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>>100463204
What was he doing during DBZ?
Gallivanting around with a gang of hooligans assaulting family members, business men, and people of different religious faiths while bringing his kids along to face an entity with world ending power or constantly being away from his family from months to years. He also tended to die a lot or end up in the hospital and when you take into account how much the saiyans in his family eats, it's astounding how they could afford anything. Goku isn't a hero, he's a menace!!
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>>100463347
>GT was just a bunch of asshole at Toei who only watched a handle of episode of DBZ trying to cash in on the popularity of the first series.

That's Toei in anything that isn't PreCure. I was never a fan of Dragonball growing up, but I always thought it was pretty damn sad how GT was so poorly handled, especially when you stop to consider how much money Dragonball, as a franchise made for Toei.
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I always thought Krillin's death at the hands of Super 17 hilarious. 18 is crying her eyes out over her husbands death and goes wild on 17 while Goku, the guy who originally went Super Saiyan because his best friend was killed, basically just goes WOAH BUMMER MAN
Everyone always just comes back because Dragon Balls, yeah, but they still always acted like it was a big deal when someone died in the past.
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>GT was 10 years ago

goddamn...
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>>100463579
That could be said for all of the old cast. For the fanbase, it all goes to them. They wanted Goku to save the day. Toei was torn between pleasing them and wanting to get some new fans. I'm surprised Trunks was so popular, but then again, it's basically Future Trunks if he lived in a peaceful period.

>>100463710
That's why I liked it. It attacked the overuse of the Dragon Balls and gave a reason behind why they shouldn't have been used so frivolously. Watching that saga from beginning to end is amazing, because it pushes Goku to the point where he dies(Shenron intervened for that Spirit Bomb). And it ends on a good note, having him visit his friends one last time before he becomes one with Shenron. And that retrospective was touching, too. That alone saved GT for me. It was well done.
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>>100463894
We were doing good so far, take the shitposting elsewhere.

>>100463934
Piccolo called him out for this in the Cell saga.
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>>100464017
You'll need this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQWhRWpT49A
and a tissue
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>>100464017

GT ended in November of 1997, anon.

It's been almost 17 years since GT aired.
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>>100464373
>GT ended when I was 2 years old
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>>100457374
Better than BOG.
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>>100457755
I actually liked it. A lot more than SSJ3, anyway.
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>>100457755
Liked it. Way better than God.
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>>100457436
adventure fails with great power. action needed to be good but gt fails here in particular. shit fights
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>>100457822
Not as worthless. Neat idea with questionable execution.
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>>100457805
Yet he's undefeated against Goku in combat.
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>>100458795
Sounds about right.
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>>100462198
>BoG
great example faggot
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>>100458802
Who is the last guy with the glasses?
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>>100463550
Bruce is best, nigger. Deal with it.
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>>100464124
>shitposting
stop it
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Future Trunks was the most based motherfucker in all of DBZ. GT Trunks was a disgrace compared not only to him, but to Buu saga Trunks as well. They completely disregarded Gotenks and Gohan as well.
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>>100463894
>>100470827
>ITT: Butthurt nostalgiafags
/a/ is so anti-dub it's not even funny, but as soon as Dragon Ball comes along, with one of the most inaccurate, and unprofessional dubs ever it's all "m-muh dub, muh childhood, muh faulconer"
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>>100471654
Sentences end with punctuation, boy.
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Liked as a kid, but hate it now. Don't want to watch it ever again.
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>>100457374
It was ok. My main complaint is the battle choreography took a HUGE nosedive from Z which is why I tend to prefer the early adventure episodes than the action ones.

It had some nice ideas like SS4 and a much better ending than Z (Vegeta taking over from Goku) but a lot of it failed to reach its full potential.
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>>100471654
If you boil it down to the basic premise (shounen muscle men screaming at each other over their magical balls), did we really miss anything?

Oh and FYI Malaysian dub is superior
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wG84efH4sw
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Filipino Dub is decent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWww3wVGyXo
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>>100458603
Goddamnit, this shit scares me.
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>>100462730
Are you retarded? It's the same voice actress for Krillin, Goku, Gohan and Goten.

Luffy too, boviously.

It's an old woman, for your info.
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>>100461647
Ah, we have plenty of wizards. I see them all the time.



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