Has anyone read the manga 'a drifting life' by Yoshihiro Tatsumi?
The manga is part autobiography about the authors life, and shows the steps and hurdles he took to become a successful author.
I was hoping other anons had read it and if they had anything similar to recommend.
Im going to start reading it now, if you wanna know
change of plans
I wonàt read it because not online
A few years back. It was fascinating.
check your local library
Yes. Read it in one sitting and it was a pretty nice ride.
You have to read to read his three collections first though. Pushman, Good Bye and Abandon the Old. Read these >>100453388
I'm cleaning up scans of Fallen Words at the moment, should be done soon.
Oh and Black Blizzard would a nice touch.
OP here. I've already read Pushman and Abandon the Old
wasn't there an anon who would have dumps of Abandon the Old?
I would suggest any Yoshiharu Tsuge works that you can get your hands on.
Red Snow is good. A Single Match was a little over the head, but it's not in the real snooty pretentious kind of way.
Ax: Alternative manga if you can get your hands on it. Tezuka and hordes of it. Jiro Taniguchi is another good option.
You mean if someone dumped it? Yeah I think someone did a little while back.
I always liked the second page of the rec charts. The first one felt more like a lot of action.
I thought it was a masterpiece, if you have an understanding of the history of manga and gekiga in particular you'll appreciate it much, much more.
In fact I'm going to buy my own copy now OP. Get it from a library if you can't afford it like I did.
Also, I'm going to grab this too. Thing's a brick of manga as well.
Mines currently borrowed at my library. Which is a pain. Someone has good taste anyways. Would hang out with.
Reading a copy i picked up from the library right now
Also the book has so many refrences to other noteworthy works. I want to check those out too
Request threads are against the rules fuck off to >>>/co/
Lots of them aren't translated and lots of authors that have just been forgotten entirely. I thought it was pretty cute seeing Lost World in there though.
Onward towards our noble deaths and Nonnonba were pretty good.
It's a little disheartening that they only printed a select bunch of Kitaro. And then you get those manga critics who insult it because it's not some of high literature or some shit.
That list is full of good licensed manga. I wish more people would care about what alternative publishers like D&Q/Last Gasp/Ponent Mon release, because just about everything they've licensed is worth reading (and almost never scanned). PictureBox is pretty similar, but I haven't read anything of theirs yet. Yuichi Yokoyama's works look really interesting. Too bad theses types of releases are really expensive, because I don't have enough disposable income to buy most of them.
Also, I didn't realize that Saturn Apartments was on that list. I fucking love that series.
is this tatami galaxy?
I think it's a huge shame that PictureBox is no longer doing any new series. I bought Travel last month. From all the reviews it gets, it's made out to be some deep and pretentious work, but really I found it really down-to-earth and simple. Awakens the inner train otaku and is the kind of something a person who rides a train every weekday would appreciate.
There's only like one group that even scans licensed series these days. And they do things on a whim. Although they did do Saturn Apartments.
Ah, fuck. I didn't even see the news. It's really a shame, since the 10 cent manga line that they had just started looked really sweet. At the very least I guess that means that I can slowly acquire their whole catalog.
I personally feel like it's better to wait for a book to go out of print before someone scans it, because if a book is in print I feel like I should try and buy it and support the company before begging for scans online. Of course, most works take a very long time to go OOP, so it really isn't practical. I should stop caring and become a dirty pirate, but I still respect the English licensing market too much for that.
Who knew it could be so difficult to be a manga pirate?
Frankly I think buying physical stuff is pretty impractical. But no one has any idea how to go digital. CR is well, headway to some degree, but that really only works for ongoing series.
It wouldn't kill people to have an anonymous donation box.
I've been going to the library to get things here and there, but they're mostly stuff I can't find anywhere. One copy shared amongst lots of people doesn't really help anyone much either though.
Also, speaking of OP's request for similar manga, I really wish that this manga would get translated. The art can get really uncomfortable sometimes but it seems really fascinating. Manga history is super interesting, and I absolutely love Black Jack.
That reminds me that Shigeru Mizuki is starting an autobiographical manga. He's over 90 goddamn.
I just wish I could see more pieces of it in action. We can't even read stuff like Kamui-den or Red Eyes. Although someone did find the first half of Red Eyes published in an an academic paper of the first translated manga. I thought that was pretty funny.
He better get that done before dying, would hate to see that go unfinished.
This looks interesting. Too bad there's no major market here in the US for something like that. France might have a better chance of getting it.
Normally I would 100% agree, but I still enjoy physical books because of the importance of the tactile aspects of reading. I feel like we wouldn't even need to scan these sorts of works if more people were just interested enough to buy it, but since they aren't, there's just a few people who read it and desperately want to share it with other people. I think you and me are the only ones in this thread, which is really telling.
True. Nobody wants to translate anything old unless it's a classic well known outside of Japan. I would love to see more stuff from Garo and similar publications get translated.
It is nice holding something but, if I had even a fraction of the stuff I've read physically, it'd be an absolute nightmare.
Definitely one of the biggest barriers to getting people interesting is being able to actually open it and read it. And that's really not the mindset that people publishing seem to have.
It's a difficult thing to judge. Without scans, without /a/, I would have never touched any of this stuff.
Absolutely. I mean, I even have a SJ subscription because I still like keeping up with that kind of stuff, and I'm sure as hell never buying any physical volumes of Naruto and shit. I would definitely embrace digital manga if it meant being able to read more things that we wouldn't normally get. Too bad JManga failed miserably, because I don't know if we'll ever get another opportunity of that magnitude. Scans also can be relatively problematic too because I know that there's plenty of people who wouldn't buy something they enjoyed just because they were already able to read it for free.
As for creating exposure, sometimes I really feel like the majority of people just aren't interested in these types of works. There's tons of people who don't even read manga, and the anime they watch always ends up being whatever's new and popular. Maybe I should try doing some storytime dumps of the shit I like, and see if I can get some converts.
Libraries can be really helpful on this front, I never would have learned about D&Q if I didn't see their books in my library and used inter-library loans to get other books.
Yup, I used to go to the library all the time. For some reason my local branch has a shitton of D&Q and Vertical, and even has Thermae Romae. The other library I used to go to a lot when I was a kid was where I first read the old Viz editions of Black Jack, and also Iron Wok Jan, which I've seen mentioned on /a/ only once in my whole time here. I'm seriously considering scanning the volumes when I get them.
I know there's at least one person on this site that goes to the same library. Maybe it's one of you guys.
In my daze I forgot to even check which manga it had before it shut down. There were quite a few obscure ones that are now probably gone forever. Most of the ones that were ripped I know were yuri. The attachment to DRM is perverse.
Frankly I think I'd like to believe there's a lot of people who would potentially be interested in this kind of stuff, but perhaps I have too much faith.
Read it for free seems a little misleading. Most assuredly a lot of people are not reading things for free online. That I guess is the guise and well, if you can accomplish that, well you've done pretty well for yourself.
I'm probably thinking about /a/ a little too much when I think about the anime and manga community as a whole. /a/ is pretty much the only anime-related community that I go to, so I'm sure my perspective can get pretty distorted. Seeing anons constantly ridiculing licensed manga and only discussing the most popular shows of the season makes me think that everyone is like that.
I like to think that the anons with similar interests to ours just don't post very often. I know I don't.
Of the people who do ridicule it there are the people who think there's only Bleach and Naruto being published. I would laugh alongside them and rightly so. It's kind of farcical and something to lament that scans get online before everyone else by a significant margin.
Then there comes less ignorance and more ego, with people thinking that everything is somehow online.
I mostly stick around to get tidbits of anime and manga news and to mostly discuss the small number of more popular series I read. As terrible as this place can be at times, there's no other place to go.
>Has anyone read the manga 'a drifting life' by Yoshihiro Tatsumi?
I have. I'm a big fan of Yoshihiro Tatsumi's works. I would recommend reading his other stuff too.
>I was hoping other anons had read it and if they had anything similar to recommend.
I would recommend Jiro Taniguchi - A Zoo in Winter; it's also about a person wanting to become and becoming a mangaka, and also more on the gekiga side of things. I don't think it has scans, though, but the physical copy feels pretty good. It's different from those two, but I'd also recommend Disappearance Diary, which does have scans.
I've read Mizuki's Onward Towards Our Noble Deaths and Kitaro. The former was amazing, the latter was enjoyable although certainly aimed at a younger demographic. I've been meaning to read his other stuff that's being licensed, too.
I don't really know what part of these you're interested in (realism, story about mangaka, alternative, ?), so I'm not confident I could give any more good recommendations.
I should really just remember pic related when I see those sorts of comments. When everyone is anonymous, you really can't tell what kind of person is posting. Which is completely fine, but oftentimes I'll take people too seriously, or expect people to know as much as I do about certain things. Sometimes I wonder why I'm even here, when I feel like nobody's the same as me. But I guess if I want to make this a place where I enjoy being, I'm going to have to make it that way myself, by participating more in the things I'm interested in.
Fuck, this got really textboard/forum discussion-y. I gotta sleep, so I won't be responding any more, but hopefully there are some more cool anons like >>100463279 that have things to say.
It's been nice. You know, this place was never supposed to move as fast as it does now. Komeiji's gone at least and didn't read any manga.
>I don't really know what part of these you're interested in
Anyone who's reading Tatsumi is worth one's salt in reading anything. I'd just pick something.
I'm always really happy when I see threads about roughly this topic and try to participate, but as you can see I'm usually late, especially since they often die quickly.
I did a big one-time dump a while back of a number of his stories, but I'm probably not who you're thinking of then.
I don't see anything I've read here that I dislike. Well, with the exception of Red Colored Elegy if I'm remembering what it was correctly, which was a bit too abstract for me even though I was reading a bunch of Western alternative comics at the time.
Apart from the obvious ones (Tezuka, Tatsumi, Taniguchi, etc. that anyone could recommend), I'd especially recommend Panorama of Hell and Blue. Disappearance Diary was good too, but I read it a while back, so I'd need to read it again. AX definitely wasn't 100%, but it had a fair amount of good stuff; I'd say it was worth the money I paid for it. If you like it, definitely make sure to check out Comics Underground Japan, another anthology. Also the only place with a translation of one of Nekojiru's stories if I remember correctly, actually the same story as the great movie (ova?). There are scans online.
Honestly, I don't think Black Blizzard really belongs on that list, though. It wasn't bad, it just doesn't seem like it fits in with the rest. Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga too, although I thought it was really great.
I think Kokoro no Kanashimi and National Quiz would really fit in the list, though.
>Anyone who's reading Tatsumi is worth one's salt in reading anything. I'd just pick something.
Maybe because it's late, but I don't really know what you're trying to say, to put it bluntly.
>Red Colored Elegy
I agree with you. It was kind of like a prototypical Asano manga but without any of the polish and too far fetching to be coherent.
Ax is a really enthusiast thing, but it's good to see even the bad stuff. They're all weird and wacky and different opportunities that manga could have adopted more.
I think one of the things about that list is that the people on it are pretty noteworthy even if their works aren't well represented. Bakune Young was... well yeah. But Ryuuguuden was my best read in a while recently.
>I don't really know what you're trying to say
Really just that anything is better than nothing.
>A Zoo in Winter
It's online for the sake of being online, but not really anywhere someone would actually find it.
Nah, it was some guy with a trip, Anonymous of Slovakia I think.
>Ax is a really enthusiast thing,
I mean, I'd like to say I'm an enthusiast, at least. Like I said, I did overall enjoy the book. I mean, Kokoro no Kanashimi even has an excerpt in it (A Broken Soul). Looking through it right now, it seems my memory may have painted it in a poorer light than it should have, somehow, too. But then there was, say, the tortoise and the hare one, which I know I've read the same story elsewhere, and it didn't seem to have much other than that. I wanted to criticize the sweaty cock one but looking at it again it's too hilarious so I can't bring myself to say a word against it.
Maybe because they were shorts, I think the art was more interesting than the story in a lot of them.
>Really just that anything is better than nothing.
I'm not sure if you're saying what I think you're saying but other good manga in the same very general vein are
Obviously Fukumoto. The boxing story in AX reminded me of him if I think about it. Also, if you think you've read all his stuff, make sure you read his collaborations with that other mangaka too. They're pretty different from his other stuff, and reminded me more of almost Taniguchi but possibly only because of the art.
Bradherly's Coach was a bit rough but I think had a good feeling to it. I've only read it and Brute Love (very good if you're into that sort of thing) of Samura's stuff, so maybe his other stuff is better. I think he has other stuff scanlated?
Nishioka Kyoudai's stuff is a bit abstract but pretty good.
Undercurrent ! Back at >>100464144 I recommended Blue, but I was confusing it with Undercurrent. I think I've read Blue, but I'm not sure.
Hideshi Hino's stuff. I'm also a fan of Hijokaidan who he did some art for, but that's not actually relevant to anything.
That's all I can think of right now.
>It's online for the sake of being online, but not really anywhere someone would actually find it.
Really? Unless you mean it's in a private area, where is that?
It's online, but you have to jump through a hoop or two to get it. I guess I didn't really want someone to just get it instead of buying it or borrowing it. If you were really after it, it shouldn't be that hard to find. I'll probably just forget about it for a while and then post it in other places eventually.
Well, I don't really mind for me, since I have a hard copy, I was just wondering for when I recommend it to other people.