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A friendly reminder from /k/ to /a/. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QgoSlq08bo
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Awwww how sweet!
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We love you to /k/
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/k/ you have good taste in waifus.
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>>100447856
You're the other best board, /k/. I've got the exact same five books coming in the mail tomorrow, coincidentally.
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>tfw /k/ has better taste in anime than /v/
Slightly surprising
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>>100448113
>You're the other best board, /k/.
With standards like that, I wouldn't want to visit the first!
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>>100448116
/k/ base their taste on waifu on activeness instead of just purely cuteness. Other words /k/ want waifu that can make good mothers.
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>>100448116
>/k/
>Grown man discussing real weaponry
>/v/
>kids discussing imaginary weaponry
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Will you guys infest the Kantai Collection thread when it airs?

I hope you guys do. In fact, please infest the current threads now.
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>>100448249
>With standards like that, I wouldn't want to visit the first!
I bet you think Attack on titan was a deep show.
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>>100448113
Are you OP from the future?
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>>100448317
I don't. Why would you think that? I never even brought the show or anything like it up.
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>>100448250
That's wise.
In every show, I always end up liking the most motherly girl. Go away Freud.
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>>100448281
We at /k/ raid call of duty wiki's all the time. Mostly out of correcting hollywoodism with fire arms. /v/ thinks the AK-74 is a sub machine cause call of duty said it was. /v/ also think the Famas been services in Vietnam because of cod black ops. The famas was not invented until the late 80s.
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>>100447856
Where's your Homura?
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You've got great taste, /k/. I love Stella AND S&W.

I actually just applied for my NJ Pistol Permit, I'm pretty excited. It'll take like 2 months, so I've got plenty of time to research what I want.
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>>100448525
I left the Garden State for Vermont, where there's less gun laws than an oil field in Iraq.
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>>100448317
I think he meant that /k/ was a shit board, you might be reading into his post a bit too much if you think that.

>>100448434
>raid
Don't
Also call of duty? This is 4chan not facebook, I doubt even /v/ like that tripe.
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>we loves
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fucking NRA gun nutz

i hope you guys like having your schools shot up by high action assault weapons like the AK47 (pic related) with 30 round assault clips
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Aren't /k/ furries?
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>>100449008
Yep
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>>100449008
a vocal minority is
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>>100448971
>.300 BLK
>Stainless barrel
why
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>>100448971
Try reading this.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-things-gun-lovers-haters-can-agree-on/
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>>100449008
most of them seem to be
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>>100449047

Tsk. Fucking vocal minorities, damn them.
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>>100449083
>cracked
no thanks
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gun control
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>>100448971
Jokes on you, the only gun I own has an 8-round clip.

And is, in fact, clip-fed
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Your guns are nothing compared to my Katana.
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>>100449145
>>100448971 beat you to it
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What is this show and why is Kanburu in it
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So why exactly didn't this sell in nipland?
The concept seems pretty failsafe.
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/pol/ here

/k/ is everyone's friend

/a/ is in an unholy and bizarre alliance with both
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>>100448971
>>100449145
Gun control don't do shit, I live in Canada and shit like this are still happening a lot.
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>>100449293
>/pol/ here
Stopped reading right there
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>>100449393
I know /pol/'s mortal enemy likes to lurk other boards too, especially /a/
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where's my gate translation /ak/ you bitches
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>>100447856
>C3-bu

Don't tell me /k/ liked that pile of filth.
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>>100449328
ill have the last laugh when someone shoots your kids in a school with an AR15 (pic related) with it's assault grips and barrel shroud that make it the perfect gun for killing children
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>>100449546
>century
ew
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Reminder that Sandy Hook school shooting was a false flag set up to convince Americans to relinquish their right to bear arms, along with other Constitutional rights that have been eroded since 9/11

Sorry, you faggots made me do it
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>>100447856
>C3bu
>not the ED
And this is why /ak/ threads belong on /a/ and not /k/
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>>100448327
>Are you OP from the future?
If you are going to ask if we will get the sailor moon reboot than no. We will get as soon as Half Life 3 comes out.
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>>100449293
Go away /pol/ not even /b/ likes you.
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>>100447856
Y-you too anon-/k/un
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>>100449047
>>100449008
>Aren't /k/ furries?
If you share a love of firearms. We are willing to tolerate furries and bronies.
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>>100449653
>you faggots made me do it
Nobody held a gun to your head
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>>100449599
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>>100449757
This makes me think. Is it unusual that there is an absolutely nonexistant population of these groups on /a/?
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>>100449742
You wish, shlomo
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>>100449496
>I know /pol/'s mortal enemy likes to lurk other boards too, especially /a/
Implying there not a lot of pro national socialist anime. Such as mobile suit gundam, angel cop and Dragon ball z.. Implying anime is one of few things sjw feminists and Jews haven"t took over yet.
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>>100449542
Each girl personality is based on a real rifle or handgun personality. The girl that keeps failing yet look cute at doing so. Is based on the British standard issued rifle the SA-80.
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>>100449855
>shlomo
This is why no one likes you. You're are as bad as /mlp/ and furries.
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>>100449742
Implying anyone likes /b/.
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>>100449857
>yet

Try everything mainstream in the past six or seven years

Pro-Nazi anime isn't in fujo and incest shit
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So why did this bomb again?
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>>100449946
Scroll up, furries are friendlies here

You just ostracized yourself

Go back to /pol/ and hassle us there
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>>100449991
>Try everything mainstream in the past six or seven years
Eeeeewww who wants to watch anime six or seven years ago? That when the moe take over happened.
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>>100447856
I wonder what the sex is like between /a/kan and /k/san?
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>>100447856
got a raifu to stop your waifu getting raped?, Ohh wait your too late.
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>>100448249
/tg/ is the true best board.
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>>100450058
Why would I go to another board to hassle them? I am not a faggot.
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>>100450195
no true scotsman
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>>100449857
>Implying there not a lot of pro national socialist anime.
>>100449991
Even strike witches has pro Axes overtones.
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>>100450195
true dat
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>>100449981
But I didnt imply anyone likes /b/
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>>100449818
I believe there are closet furries (at least) that hide in the monstergirl threads. I'm not saying all monster girls are furrbait or even that a majority are, but I've seen some shit posted that crosses the line.
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>>100450195
If the people I know are anything like the norm on /tg/, you're full of shit.
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>>100450195
That title goes to /po/
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Hello /k/. I browse both /k/ and /a/ extensively.

Just because you like a single anime, does not mean you like /a/. Liking anime doesn't automatically mean you like /a/. /a/ != anime, /a/ is an image board for anime that has developed it's own unique culture. In case you don't understand I'll use a metaphor. You like football, but that doesn't automatically mean you like every football team, because Manchester != football, or Seahawks != footbal.

So please, if you truly love /a/ (Not anime, but /a/) then prove it.
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>>100449857
This is true. Even Death note is pro fascist.
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Never watched spice and wolf

why is korbo /ak/ related again?
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/pol/ is the Bismarck of 4chan and brokering alliances between the most random of boards, probably out of sheer amusement

>>100450073
Well there you go
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>>100450263
I think there needs to be a difference recognized between "furry" as a fetish and 'furry" as a subculture. The furry subculture is cancerous, but the furry fetish is just disgusting and prone to cancer.
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>>100450330
Fuck off.
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>>100449981
A-actually I can fit in quite well at /k/ and /a/.
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>>100450356
S&W
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>>100450330
>So please, if you truly love /a/ (Not anime, but /a/) then prove it.
My parents know about her. Yet i have no shame about them knowing.
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/ak/ thread?
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>>100450454
You some kinda slav?
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>military anime
>good
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>>100450205
You are and the fact you get paid to do it makes you an even bigger faggot
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>>100450431
Smith & Wesson?
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>>100450431
it's been confirmed
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>>100450495
>anime
>good
what are you some kinda weeb?
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>>100450454
That flies against /a/ and everything /a/ stands for. Hide your powerlevel, don't be a weeaboo. Don't mistake waifu threads that have been taken too far for us thinking "I'm being a loser and no one can stop me." is a good thing.
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>>100450390
>>100450356
Apart of me wish /k/ would get /a/ pregnant just for we can have a official /ak/ board. What would the daughter /k/ and /a/ look like?
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Who would ever have believed /a/ /k/ and /pol/ to be the holy trinity of this site
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>>100450499
The only other board I have ever been on is /int/, I couldn't get pissed at faggots who come here and shit up the place if I went to boards to shit it up.
>paid
I have never gotten paid in my life.
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We love you too /k/
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>>100448971
epic trole :^)
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>>100450619
Don't forget /mu/
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>>100450619
It's only natural after the site that 4chan came from went super-leftist as fuck and everyone here abandoned it and swung the other way
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>>100450598
That tank loli drinking the Voldka.
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>>100450481
>CLP
>in a spray can
What wizardry is this?
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>>100450619
Scratch the /pol/ and I agree. Try /a/ /k/ and /g/.
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>>100450362
/mlp/ always been /pol/ 2.0. One of the more popular board alliances and cross overs is /mlpol/. /lgbt/ is probably the most far right a gay board can get. They are some of the biggest feminists, sjw, snowflake haters on 4chan. And sometimes more racist than /pol/. /v/ and /pol/ got closer after Anita and other tumbler feminists been spreading cancers in gaming. I think it's less of a alliances /pol/ forms with other boards. it's more or less Enemy of my enemy is a my friend. Almost every board hates feminists with the Exception of /co/ which became tumbler the board.
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>>100450764
Some plebian not being part of the motor oil and bearing grease master race.
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>>100450788
maybe years ago, /g/ is shit now.
Like /v/ but boring.
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>>100449925
Wrong series, mate.
That's Upotte!!, not C3-bu
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>>100450874
What boards are redeemable these days, aside from /a/ /k/ and maybe /tg/? Are there even any left?
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/ak/ hasguns

Angie best girl?
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>>100450619
b-but /a/ is like /b/ but with slightly less shit taste and smug anime faces
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>>100450763
>That tank loli drinking the Voldka.
Post pic of our daughter
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korbo's kommandos is so cringe worthy

I get that they're trying to juxtapose guns with anime to give off that impression "I'm badass and operator but I got a cute anime girl" so funny joke
so meta right?
so cool?

I bet there are some people who bought a daki of whoro just to be a part of the epic inside joke

At least get some taste, or don't be obnoxious about your collection
Horo is basically the quintessential baby's first "waifu"
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>>100450918
>/tg/
I've been there, it's not.
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>>100450794
I fully agree with you. Our hate for feminists is unifying all the boards.
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>>100451006
>first "waifu"
>having more then one waifu
cancer please go
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Or Triela?
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>>100451012
I agree. I was at least giving the anons who vouched for it consideration, but it looks like they're full of shit.
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>>100450619
>not /tg/
come on, they have /monster/girls, HUMANITY FUCK YEAH FUCK YOU FUCK SHIT, and quests
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>>100451065
I blame breaking bad.
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Looking at buying one of these for $160.
I assume it's a replica, but as long as it fires safely.
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>>100450966
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>>100451006
Saber, Horo or maybe an Eva girl as a waifu are definite signs of babby's first anime/vn making too much of an impact.
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/pol/ gets along with /mlp /fit/ /lgbt/. /a/ and /k/ gets along. /v/ and /b/ are both shit. What other board alliances there is?
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>>100450788
>cryptocurrency /g/eneral
>good
ahahha
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>>100447856
Why is it that when I look at this, I feel like Horo is in danger?
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>>100450918
I wouldn't put /tg/ up there. They're slowly becoming infected like /ck/. I wouldn't say /a/ is perfect either, it's not as fun here as it used to be and while not as noticeable as /v/ there are a shitload of newfags running around. I don't browse that many other boards but /ck/ and /trv/ are nice. There are also quite a few boards that do stay on-topic but aren't exciting enough to garner attention from the rest of the site.
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>>100451223
who cares?
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>>100451136
Have a higher res version
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>>100451223
/vg/ and /s4s/
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>>100451223
>/pol/ gets along with /mlp
Really?
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>>100451287
But that one is missing the 'Liberal tears' label
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>>100451318
/vg/ a shit
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>>100450794
I fucking hate ponyfuckers yet I'm right-wing as fuck.
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>>100451029
>>100450794
Also all of 4chan hates "jews", be them actual jews, or 'jews' meaning

>companies that try to stop me from pirating things
>companies that want me to pay for things
>companise that want to make me pay more
>the government that takes my money
>sites that have ads or don't work for adblocker users

4chan users are incredibly entitled and think they should be allowed to pirate everything and get everything for free, so naturally they label everyhing they dislike as jews
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>>100451223
/tg/ used to be good friends with /x/ untill /b/ broke it.

/tg/ has also had a falling out with /co/.
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>>100451260
/ck/ would be a lot better if people stopped posting food with guns and alcohol in the shot. It's the autistic version of when women take photos of something and they feel they need to pose with it.
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>>100450794
It's funny because you're completely wrong.
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>>100451318
/s4s/ has to to be the most cancerous board of them all. What was moot thinking.
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>>100451136
She beautiful!
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>>100451119
Same here. It's even better because in Texas there's no restrictions on black-powder weapons, they're classified as "antiques". I could theoretically concealed carry one even though i'm not 21
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>>100451223
basically every board on 4chan gets along with /pol/, including /a/. 4chan canonically hates feminists/minorities/jews/etc. it's part of the website's ethos and history

/g/ is basically '/pol/ with technology' now too
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>>100451260
>>100451425
sorry forget what I said I'm tired, I meant to say /co/.
/ck/ is still pretty good all things considered.
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>>100451380
Anon could you be an ambassador for the rest of the sight for a moment? I left 4chan for two years, and the place has become right wing as hell since. What are your various political, social, and economic views? I want to know what these changes for the sight mean.

I don't associate with either side.
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>>100451318
>/vg/ and /s4s/
I never got what the hell /vg/ suppose to be. retro games is a better video game board.
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>>100451340
Exactly, you can put whatever you want on it.
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>>100451409
I believe /int/ hates /pol/ the most. I also know /tg/ can't stand /pol/ at all.
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>>100451380
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>>100451469
I live in IL. Gay as fuck gun laws. I used too be stationed down in TX. Almost bought a rifle and shotgun.
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>>100451319
Apparently

/mlp/ values conservative family ideals

Then again /lgbt/ say they're /pol/'s friends even though the creation of the board was solely to troll /pol/ (like s4s after the SRS raids)

As for /fit/ that's obvious bullshit, you don't need me to point that one out
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>>100451499
It's for actually discussing video games.
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>>100451469
mfw living in Wyoming. Gotta love constitutional carry.
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>>100451499
You can't really judge /vg/ as a whole. I've had great threads in smaller generals, they tend to have much better discussion but die out quickly. However on the other end of the spectrum you have pure cancer like ASSFAGGOTS, gookcraft, and KSG.
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>>100450011
Character development.
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Since we're on the off-topic

Why the fuck did /a/ adopt one of the worst most cancerous /vg/ memes, which is literally nothing more than "This is a troll" reworded with a hi-larious white and black image macro

I thought you were supposed to be a good board, or at least resistant to cross-board contamination, especialy from /vg/ (which is essentially /v/ but worse)? I thought you'd reject this outright. Does that much of /a/ browse /vg/ or something?

pic related, a banner
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>>100451441
[s4s] was really fun not even a month ago. Most of the people who act cancerous there post normally on other boards. It has lost its appeal recently, though.
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>>100451554
>>100451541
>>100450794
get the fuck back to your board horsefuckers, you aren't fooling anyone.
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>>100451409
>Also all of 4chan hates "jews"
Most of the world and internet hate jews.
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>>100451574
>/vg/
>actually discussing video games

>>100451609
I've literally never seen one single thread that had actual good discussion in /vg/. even the smaller games like Eve online or planetside were bad

the fastest ones were some of the most cancerous communities 4chan ever created (sc2 gen, lolg, TF2 gen, ksg)
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>>100451651
Sometimes shit leaks through the cracks. Like doge and the word edgy
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>>100451651
Because its new and simple which makes it easy to edit.
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>>100451223
>/pol/ gets along with /mlp /fit/ /lgbt/.

says fucking who ?
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>>100451726
doge never took root on /a/, it was correctly rejected

/sp/ being a shithole loved it though

/g/ begrugingly uses it because they make jewbux on dogecoin
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>>100451609
Personally I hate /sc2g/ a lot more than KSG
Their cancer spreads to any general involving esports.
>>100451651
It's incredibly convenient and conveys paying no mind to a retard. Compared to giving a personalized response.
I hate it too don't worry
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>>100451708
No it's seriously increased insanely fast in the last few years
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>>100451651
The crossboarders started using it so much that the non-crossies who didn't even know it was from /vg/ started using it, thinking it was okay. I want to make an account on 9fag just to spread it around there to kill it off.
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>>100448434
>/v/
>call of duty at all
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>>100451651
It's shit but at least it shuts up retarded faggots quicker than anything else.
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>>100451835
Except it won't spread because it makes no sense outside of a discussion forum which 9gag doesn't have

you'd have to spread it on reddit or something
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>>100451773
Thank god. That shit fills me with the murderous rage of a thousand suns.
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>>100451827
>No it's seriously increased insanely fast in the last few years
So did the hate for jews for the rest of the world. It's nothing new. Even mainstream sites like youtube hate jews.
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>>100451835
I doubt that would work. Doge is normalfag tier and it's still used.
I've heard people say stupid shit like Wow Such X in real life.
Also just throwing this out there if you want to blame anyone for doge, blame /sp/ and tumblr
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>>100451839
Are you joking? There are A LOT of people playing CoD on /v/ now. Hell just earlier today there was a thread discussing guns in CoD. So much for "casual shit"
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>>100451877
I was thinking somebody would say something stupid in a rage comic (sorry for the redundancy), and then the fish would pop up.
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>>100451969
go for it

you know you don't even have to do it on 9gag just post it here on the 4chins with the 9gag stamp and people will just assume it's a hot new meme sweeping 9gag and react violently to stamp it out here
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>Old, old friend from middle school, never used the web at all
>Started going on reddit a few years ago
>Just told me about this hilarious site called 9gag
>Die inside as I shake my head and tell him I don't know about it
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>>100451870
>
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/vr/ and /m/
/a/ and /k/
who else
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2mainstream4u?
hipster boi
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>>100447856
So has anyone drawn /k/ and /a/ having sex hentai? I find it funny most people consider /a/ /mlp/ and /x as girls when shipping boards.
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>>100451950
links if you would?
Or atleast a keyword so i dont spend 20 minutes trying to find it on foolz
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>>100452123
Wait people actually ship the boards?
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>>100452123
>So has anyone drawn /k/ and /a/ having sex hentai?
We OPERATE together, not give each other handjobs.
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>>100452046
Fucking 85% of 4chan is on reddit now. It's sickening.
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>>100452188
I make board-tans in K-Kisekae.
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>>100452123
>/an/ walkin in on /k/ and /a/ having an affair
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>>100452046
>having a friend that goes to reddit.

You disgust me.
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>>100452123
No, but they should

And they will

I'm waiting
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>>100452210
How the fuck did this happen. I was absent from January 2012 to September 2013. How did this shit sink in that time? Where the fuck did everyone that knows better go?
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>>100452188
Where the fuck have you've been for the past 7 years?
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>>100452123
10/10
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>>100452229
But does /an/ know about /k/ and /a/ bastard child yet?
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>>100452210
85% of 4channers go on reddit
Like this comment if you're one of the 15% that stays pure!
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O hai guize it's reddit here am I kawaii? xD
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>>100452210
>>100452327
I went there once to see the difference between 4chan and reddit, because 4chan was down at the time.

I still dont know why anyone would want to visit that shithole.
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>>100452407
>>100452327
>>100452210
Look at the brought side even reddit share our hate for tumbler feminists.
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>>100452491
Fuck off redditor.
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>>100452407
Because the front page of reddit *LITERALLY* is the front page of the internet

Why did SOPA get stopped?

Reddit.

No where else will you get the news that actually matters to turbonerd internet autists as fast as the front page of reddit

4chan is terrible for discussing anything except the latest hottest anime that just got released on nyaa
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>>100449857
>blue eyes
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>>100451651
bait is a scv may-may

but like all scv maymays they are bastardized and turned unfunny

at its conception, it was good
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>>100452523

4chan did miles more to stop SOPA than Reddit.

Get the fuck out of here.
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>>100452570
>4chan did miles more to stop SOPA than Reddit.

my sides, the fucking USI of the autistic permavirgin NEETs on this site who ACUTALLY think they matter in the world

>b-but we're da sekrit boos of da interntubes xD

It's like i'm on /b/.
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>>100452570
4chan did a alot but that was thanks to moot. If moot didnt comment, no one would have even known about it.
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>>100452520
Tumbler is a threat to us both. But soon as tumbler been dealt with. reddit has my permission to die. From /tv/ with love /a/.
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>>100452523
I'm willing to accept that Reddit has eclipsed 4chan in popularity. Reddit may be the front page, but as an anon described it to me many years ago, 4chan is the pulse of the globe. Nowhere else do you get things so raw, quick, and unfiltered, with absolutely no regard for popularity, self-censorship, or upvotes.
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>>100452601

Redditard, pls go and stay go.

>>>/out/


Fucking >implying Reddit ever does anything other than bitch and circlejerk
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>>100452601
Take your fucking meta shit anywhere but here.
>>>/b/ seems most appropriate.
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>>100452668
No, all 4chan is is the kernel, hivemind and heart of the angry loser pedantic hypercritical shut-in nerd that was so incredibly common on the early days of the internet and now makes up an ever shrinking small minority and thus is very angry and xenophobic to the rest of the internet (which is correct because it's pretty terrible, 4chan is bad too but the rest is worse)
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Hey /ak/ are you guys still translating the Gate series?

I want more of that series.
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Why do /k/ and /a/ love each other so much?
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My god this thread is /b/

Mods please delete this
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>>100452601
>think they matter in the world
and yet reddit copies everything from us and our content is much more widespread than reddit's shitty vector images and xdd narwhal bacon ever will.
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>>100452804
>>100452706
please samefag harder
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>>100452754
4chan today is not 4chan even 3 years ago.
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>>100452762
me too, where the fuck are the scans?

>>100452795
because gun and anime otaku are two sides of the same coin.
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>>100452795

Because reasons
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>>100452842
What is this? A gif for ants?
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>>100452795
/a/, /k/ and /pol/ are the primary right wing boards on 4chan
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>>100447856
Sadly C3bu is shit. But we also love you /k/
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>>100452795
/a/ loves the freedom to download free anime. /k/ loves the freedom of being the only country in the world were you can own guns. Naturally, the love of freedom.
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>>100452795
>Why do /k/ and /a/ love each other so much?
/a/ is such a cute mistress and mother.
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>>100452948
When the fuck did /a/ become right wing?
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>>100452848
>T-There can't possibly be two people with the same opinion
Deal with it nerd.
Also,
>>>/b/
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>>100452981
When Tumblr/SRS/Feminism became a thing on the internet.
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>>100452754
>Every place on the internet needs to be a hugbox where people's feelings are pandered too and dissenting or controversial opinions are to be [REMOVED BY MODERATOR] to the cheers of the community of all costs


You literally cannot get away with talking shit about Reddit on Reddit. You can't convince them that their community is garbage, because they honestly believe that their hivemind is correct on everything. Disent of any sort is not appreciated there; and the internet is becoming less and less a bastion of free thought and speech; its just becoming another social tool; i.e. Better watch what you say on da intertubes or else xD
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>>100452981
since it became cool to be right wing
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>>100453014
Reddit's literal favorite pasttime is talking about how shitty and horrible Reddit is and everyone(else) on the site is awful and should be gassed

literally half the site is based around attacking the other side which is why they had so much dumb drama over doxing
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>>100453007
/a/ years ago could not possibly be more leftist. Not to say they tolerated bullshit like social justice warriors. They actually abandoned everything they believed in just to not associate with the new losers on the block?

That's fucking pathetic.
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>>100453007
You mean /v/ right? If people start that stuff here they get told to go to /v/.

/a/ does hate tumblr though, just not seen any discussion of feminism since that's mainly a 3D thing.
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>>100452981
You cant protect your waifu by being a leftwing pussy.
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>>100452981
Since forever? 4chan has always been right wing. Get the fuck out you liberal piece of shit.
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screw it i dont care what other people think

/v/ /a/ /k/ and /tg/ masterace
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>>100452795
They have similar likes and dislikes.

/a/ and boards like /v/ meanwhile have, let's say, conflict of interests.
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>>100447856
What are /k/'s opinions on Nobunagun?
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>>100453118
>/a/ years ago could not possibly be more leftist

[citation needed]
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>>100453060
>literal
>literally
stop
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>>100452948
>a board liking traps and all kinds of degenerate shit
>right wing

Good one /pol/
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>>100453131
When did this shit get so black and white? I've always advocated toughening the fuck up instead of censoring other people.
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>>100453118
>/a/ years ago could not possibly be more leftist

In what way? I'm thinking you're suffering from a breakdown on what lefist/rightist means here

The internet is a fucking warzone. It is an absolute no holds bar war between social justice warriors (SRS, Tumblr, SA, etc) and The Rest.

Leftist is part of that SJW movement.

If you're not, you're not lefist.
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>>100453167
I go on /g/ more than /k/ or /tg/ but you're an alright guy.
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>>100452194
Isn't this the same thing? My army friends told me so.
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>>100453131
>4chan
>right wing

First year on 4chan?
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>>100453209
Can you even hear what you're saying? Being left has nothing to do with those fuckers.
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>>100453201
When SA & SRS declared War On The Internet.

Their goal is to destroy everything you like.

They have conquered /co/ and made strong gains in /v/.

/a/ has only remained relatively unattacked because it's a slower board and the stronger concentration of autism makes attacks more difficult. Still their presence has been seen, in Free/Eva generals.
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>>100453255
Newfags seem to think 4chan is and always was hardcore right.
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>>100453209
>political opinion is binary
omigod stop raping me chek ur privlege.
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>>100453118
>/a/ years ago could not possibly be more leftist
Yes and /a/ has always multi cultural, feminist, and pro censorship. Oh wait no that's fucking wrong you retard.
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>>100453209
>/pol/ niggerthink that anyone who's a SJW/femnazi idiot is a leftist

Go back to your containment board paranoid degenerate.
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/a/ is pro free speech because free porn.

Right wingers dislike drawn porn.

Right wing cock-suckers can stay in their closets away from my civil rights.

MY COLD DEAD HANDS, YOU RIGHT-WING SCUM.
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>>100453261
Have you even seen the goals of SRS and SJW in general?

>>100453310
Everything is binary, this is 4chan.

>>100453322
We got a live one
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>>100453285
>/a/
>slower board

When did so many newfags start coming to /a/?
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>>100453337
Reminder that 4chan = LIBERTARIAN = right wing

REMINDER : THERE ARE NO SOCIAL RIGHTISTS ON THE INTERNET. OLD PEOPLE CANNOT USE COMPUTERS.
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>>100451006
>I bet there are some people who bought a daki of whoro just to be a part of the epic inside joke
>At least get some taste, or don't be obnoxious about your collection
>Horo is basically the quintessential baby's first "waifu"

/k/ has a surprising number of oldfags compared to other boards, rivaled only by /tg/, most likely.

The word didn't exist back then, but if we had a "babby's first waifu" it would be someone from the tank police or Tenchi Muyo OVAs.

As for the Spice & Wolf thing, that just happened naturally over time as dozens of fans emerged on /k/. It wasn't a forced meme when it started in 2009. Pyrite only started gathering them in 2010 I believe.
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>>100453131
>4chan has always been right wing
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>>100453322
This, I'd say I was leftist (equality for all etc. etc.) but this tumblr bullshit is just everyone wanting to be special snowflakes and creating issues were there are none.
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>>100453422
>Viking
how?
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>>100453379
It is a slower board you retard, it's far slower than /v/, even after /v/ split off and made /vg/, /vg/ ALSO being much faster than /a/.

/pol/ is actually often faster than /a/ too now.
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>>100453201
>>100453255
>>100453456
4Chan has always hated faggots and feminists and other SJW. That makes you right wing. That's the defining characteristic on the modern internet.

That's How It Works.

If you don't check your Cis-hetero-abelist privledge you are a right winger.
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>>100453230
i go on /g/ more than /k/ or /tg/ too but i always forget to add it
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>>100453475
The last time moot mentioned this /a/ was third, behind /v/ and /b/. Not that I can remember where I read this, or how long ago that was.
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>>100453379
Don't point it out to them. You're helping them get better at what they do. Just ignore them and let them wonder why no one is taking them seriously.
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>>100453460
Look at it like the topic of anime. Many, if not most people that watch anime are obnoxious and shameless weeaboos, right? Does this mean you, a self-respecting person has to stop enjoying it? No. So don't be so frightened as to drop your own fucking views to avoid a few obnoxious idiots. You're better than that.
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>>100453460

That's a bit like hating a show because it has some stupid fans.

Anything popular will attract some really dumb people.
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>>100453475
Yeah whatever you say retard.
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>>100453555
/a/ is at best, 4th now. /vg/ is faster than /a/
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>>100453531
That's not what right wing actually means in the world, though. But thanks for at least easy my concern that everyone on 4chan became a southern bible thumping slave owner.
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>>100453200
>Impling traps are gay.

I smell a faggot liberal among us.
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>>100452795
>Why do /k/ and /a/ love each other so much?
If Japan ever attacked by china/north korea. /k/omreades be the first to enlist to protect anime.
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>>100453576
Top kek
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>>100453643
The further down the list, the better.
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>>100453649
>That's not what right wing actually means in the world, though.

You're on 4chan, this is the internet. You don't go out into the world or have any influence in it. Here on the internet you are subjucted to the SJW/SRS/Tumblr crew, and they define lefism on the net.
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>>Viking
>how?

Canada.

(Old photo from an edens bowy thread forever ago).
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I need to take a few minutes to process this. Because I don't even know what's up from down anymore, let alone who stands for what.

Can someone please clarify each side in this debate, aside from the "SJW VS EVERYONE ELSE"
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It does make sense for /a/ to be more left than right.

American TV is garbage. There are many reasons for this but the first one is "politically correct" bullshit.

One of the reasons I watch anime is I dont have to see the token nigger or the mandatory gimp in every single show.
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>>100453756
Since when do commies sell shit that wasn't made 50 years ago?
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>>100453605
Before making my decision, what day was that on? Different boards move slower/faster on different days. Fridays and Saturdays are probably have the most activity since you know, it's Friday and also because of Sakura Trick and Kill la Kill being quite popular here.

Anyway, wasn't /pol/ only implemented a year ago? Or two at most? Its already reached 25 million posts which is just under a quarter of /a/'s total posts. Just saying that the statistics of one particular day don't mean much.
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Why does it seem like 4chan is so pro gun and the Rape cultural it promotes? It's bad enough rape jokes are popular on 4chan. And rape jokes alone cause rapes to happen.
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>>100453643
It goes like this

>/b/
>/v/
>/vg/
>/a/
>/sp/
>/pol/
>other irrelevant boards
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>>100453764
Well, right now the sides are idiotic newfags vs everyone else.
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>>100453763
You meant more right than left, right?

Japan is incredibly conservative/racist/based as fuck in that regard so it's not crazy

where else would you get a country that outright hates jews, niggers, gooks, and everyone who isn't them?
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>>100453834
Holy crap i think i know that guy from High school!
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>>100453892
/a/ has nothing to do with Japan. Since when the hell did /a/ become conservative?
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>>100453531
>4Chan has always hated faggots and feminists and other SJW.
>4Chan
Thanks for showing your newfaggotry right with the very first word.

> has always hated faggots and feminists and other SJW.
Thanks for showing that you don't know how anonymous mass forums (before you embarrass yourself by saying that it's not a forum: it is) and levels of vocality in communities work.
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The great thing about 4chan is that it doesn't have a 'political opinion'. Bitches from every position on the spectrum come here to shitpost and get called faggots and post their waifus or penises or whatever. The best thing about the site is that you can say whatever the fuck you want, and there's no limit besides NSFW material. Watch.

>>100451651
You're a fucking idiot. I wish I could go back 30 years in time and rape your mom, then take her back 30 more years and throw her in a fucking Nazi Gas Chamber as it was being turned on so I didn't have to read that stupid fucking post, you faggot.
So you see? That's what's fucking great. You can't get that shit anywhere else because you'll get downvoted and banned and reported to the FBI and all your friends will hate you or something. 4chan doesn't give a fuck and just calls you a worse insult.

It's what keeps me coming back here, and it's why I'm more at home scrolling these boards than Reddit or tumblr or any of that shit. That and, as a whole, 4chan has a good sense of humor, and lots of creative minds have a chance to show off their work on 4chan (and, usually, for the love of the work, not the attention).

Watch, someone's going to reply to this post and call me a fucking faggot. And that's fucking awesome, because he couldn't do that on like, Reddit or Facebook or some PowerBoards forum and get away with it.
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I would say the most accurate description of 4chan would be
>Economics: Progressive conservative
>Social: Radical centrist
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>>100453965
>claims 4chan doesn't hate fags
>uses the word newfaggotry in the sentence

Is this some next level irony, or bait, or are you actually just a fucking retard?

WE ADD -FAG TO WORDS BECAUSE WE HATE FAGGOTS.
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>>100453892
>Japan is incredibly conservative/racist/based as fuck in that regard so it's not crazy
>where else would you get a country that outright hates jews, niggers, gooks, and everyone who isn't them?
This is why /pol/ love Japan. I am not even /pol/ and it piss me off tumbler users think Japan some kind of progressive wonderland. In truth Japan see homosexuality as a fetish for people to enjoy in private not a lifestyle you flash around in public. Than again sites like Kotaku which is popular to them think's watamote is too mean.
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>>100453965
You are responding to obvious satire turbodork.
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>>100453971
You're a pretty cool guy, I like you a lot
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>>100453971
>>>/b/

You can always tell the ones who came here for the epic trolling and flamewars and gross pictures.

Get.
Out.
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>>100453971
I appreciate that shred of sanity in this vortex or shit.
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>>100453337
>>100453456
>>100453309

A site which rules focus on free speech and anonymity with minimal if any controls is right wing? Who woulda thunk. If you mean media reported right wing ie, reactionary authoritarian Christians then no, but both left and right are authoritarian. This site is more libertarian in its function and makeup and that includes people on both sides socially. By right wing he means economic freedom and smaller government (ie moderation) not social reactionaries whining about abortion and gays.
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Nope. /v/ and /co/ are liberal scum.

/a/ and /k/ are conservative christian boards.
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>>100453971
You're a fucking faggot but you're all right.
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>>100454025
4chan never did hate gays at all. We slaped fag on everything for the same reason we fap to loli and laugh as school shootings. Because its offensive, and we can fucking get away with it.
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>>100453971
There's two major kinds of people on 4chan

There's the old-oldfags that came from SA and elsewhere and came because 4chan had 2ch/2chan style anonymous posting imageboard content, good quality and community, and was a nice niche place

Then there are people like this that come to 4chan because they see it as an unmoderated place where you can shitpost and troll and flame and argue to your hearts content.

Both feel like they are superior to the rest of the internet, but only one actually is
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>>100447856
Why /k/ommandos like Spice and Wolf so much?
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>>100454106
Sorry, but to claim 4chan was always right wing in any respect is to claim your tremendous newfaggotry. It picked up plenty of stormfags along the way though, I'll grant you that.
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>>100454209
What if I come here for both?
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>>100454202
This reeks of /b/, but at least it's old /b/.
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>>100454231
IIRC even the author is an OPERATOR. Why they go so well together is anybody's guess.
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>>100454181
>Nope. /v/ and /co/ are liberal scum.
/v/ becoming /pol/ 3.0 after anita and mighty number 9 being ruined in the last three years. Even we at /lgbt/ hate the snowflakeism coming from /co/.
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>>100454257
Just keep 'em separate and you'll be fine that's actually the best
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>>100454253
You are still using the American media defined words for right wing and not the classical definition of the beliefs the modern bastardizations are based on. 4chan was apolitical but with the stringent enforcement of free speech, which is an ideal from the right side of the specturm. "right wing" does not mean anti-porn/piracy/waifus or that sort of thing.
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>>100450578
>Hide your powerlevel

are you fucking joking? fuck off normalfag
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>>100454258
It's the only /b/ I ever knew. Even if I was never a /b/tard, old /b/ still runs through the the core of what this site actually is. There's no political agenda, it's the stance of pointing out the stupidity of either side.

Is /b/tard even a word anymore?
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>>100454274
/co/ is fighting hard against the tumblrites, but it seems to be a losing battle due to the medium-level geekery of comics attracting all the faggots. Remember, /co/ was where the term 'hipster' got serious play when Scott Pilgrim was making the rounds. They're just as much on the front lines of the SJW movement war as /v/ is, only they don't have the manpower to react as much.
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>>100454332
I always knew I was special
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>>100454386
So /a/ is promoting being a raging weeaboo faggot these days?
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>>100454386
>revealing your powerlevel
most anti-/a/ thing you can do

if you're going to go full 'live under a rock NEET' you never go outside and have nothing to reveal

only weebs who go to cons and shit would reveal their power level. you're not that /a/.
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>>100454267
>OPERATOR
A what?
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>>100454462
/a/ and /vg/ share a big overlap and those boards best embody the two schools of thought

If you want to see the most horrible cancerous but still kind of funny shitposting 4chan can foster, find the fastest thread on /vg/, especially during something broadcast on twitch with a lot of viewers
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>>100454497
Whoever drew that korbo image is a fucking retard, korbo would never be tactitard enough to use a KX3 or KNS pins.
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>>100454069
>>100454078
>>100454095
>>100454185
>>100454209

Case in point; there is no centralized opinion, and no need to justify why you deviate or not. You do, and your opinion is as 'respected' as anyone else's is.

Some people praised me, some people think I'm the cancer killing the board. And you know what the means? Fuck all. The people who agreed with me are as likely to tell me to go get fucked in a car by a pack of heroin addicts tomorrow as the people who decried me are likely to praise me for making some half-assed MS Paint comic of some sort of in-joke about a tv show. And that won't matter either; 'popularity' lasts only one thread (unless you're a tripfaggot, but fuck those guys anyways), and when the thread 404's, I won't have any upvotes to jerk off over or people trying to get me banned from the internet because I hurt their feelings.

I posted that shit because it's what I thought, and the people that responded to me posted what they thought; and didn't give a shit how popular it made them. That's what I fucking love about 4chan.
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>>100450578
Why is Nanoha such an operator
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>>100454253
Keep in mind now days speaking out against sjw types, and feminists no matter how left wing you are now makes you a right wing. Just look at the comic book character Green arrow. He started out being a super liberal Superhero. Now he is consider libertarian. And even mocks both feminists and wealthy Hollywood liberal elite that calls themselves socialist. Hell modern liberalism barely has anything to do with the original concept of liberalism. Classic liberals like JFK would have been consider right wing now. libertarianism is closer to the original Concept of liberalism before it been morphed in modern times.
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>>100454533
But I don't want to go fast, I prefer the slow, laidback, passive aggressive shitposting of /mhg/.
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>>100454497
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>>100454386

are YOU fucking joking?
It's like our #1 rule to never reveal your powerlevel.
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>>100454497
How could you leave us for /an/ /k/ we had so much in common!!!!! *sobs*
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>>100454379
USA's left party is farther to the right than the right-wing party of most places, so we have corporate apologists on "both sides", because both of our sides are right of any legitimate center.

USA has no socialists or communists. We should probably import some from France.

>>100454386
How /a/ has fallen.
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>>100454606
Newfags don't really know better.
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>>100454577
Truth. The progressive left now would hate jfk if he was around now.
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>>100454469
>only weebs who go to cons and shit would reveal their power level. you're not that /a/.

There is a difference between posting in a 4chan "post your guns & wolf" thread, and wandering around in public with an anime t-shirt and a ringtone from Lucky Star.
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>>100454559
This guy gets it. This place has no agenda or leaning. 4chan is about freedom of speech, with a bit of chaos thrown in. Nothing more.
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>>100454379
Sure, if you ignoring the social axis and the economic axis and restricting "right wing" to mean "free speech", then you end up with 4chan as a right wing platform (not necessarily with right wing users).
If you want to define it that way, then you get to be right. Congrats.
But in every other sense you're wrong.
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>>100454646
>!!!!!
>sobs*
nope
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>>100453756
>Eden's Bowy
I never saw how that ended. Did it end?
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>>100454588
Can we all stop fucking and allow /k/ and /a/ to make in peace?
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>>100454485
>he doesn't know what an OPERATOR is
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>>100454710
Posting an anonymous picture of a daki isn't blowing your powerlevel at all. Revealing it means anything that could tie it to you as an individual.
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>>100454751
>I never saw how that ended. Did it end?

Rushed anime original ending, it wasn't very good. I believe it caught up to the manga too quickly.

I watched the fansubs forever ago and found DVD box set in a discount bin.

The only reason the topic came up was because it was the same creator as Upotte.
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>>100447856
Are you about to go wolf hunting?
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>>100454780
>allow /k/ and /a/ to make in peace?

Make what?

Translations of Gate: the JSDF Did Shit?
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>>100450195
This is true.
I started playing D&D specifically because I admire /tg/ so much.
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why would i want market inefficiency and kebabs invading my country. My city already implemented policies to help the homeless, but all it did was attract a bunch of transient hippies who now mooch off of it and live freely in the town. And i can't walk out the door without tripping over homeless hippies.

>>100454721
Yea sure but the left wing is defined by equality enforced through force, 4chan is structured in the exact opposite, in that everyone is equal in their usage of the board but only their opinions (ie economic productivity) grant them distinction from others, ie a libertarian structure where everyone is equal before the law but not otherwise.
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This is all I got for this thread.
Someday I'll be Togusa.
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>>100454826
I can't find the manga anywhere online after the timeskip happens. If I'm remembering it correctly.
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>>100454872
Make is a slang for sex.
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>>100454485
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Force#The_term_operator
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>>100454872
Jewish Space Defense Force?
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>>100454895
Unrelated anon here. Can we agree 4chan is libertarian?
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>>100454947
If you're for real, you hit the fucking jackpot, those things are only going to increase in value. They're at like 3k right now.
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>>100454996
>Jewish Space Defense Force?

Tell Sunrise to make this anime immediately.
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>>100454998
No, simply on principle of fuck you.
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>>100454812
Exactly. You can post anything you want online anonymously. it means going outside/in public with it, or posting it on like facebook or some shit
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>>100454998
No.
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>>100455019
It's just a picture of what I someday hope to own.
;_;
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Why does /k/ like us again?
I do like guns but I've never been there.
The only one I have is a Remington shotgun.
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>>100454998
No. I used to be liberitarian but then Liberals went more bat shit crazy. Being in the middle is to close to them.
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>>100454859
>Are you about to go wolf hunting?
coyotes and green peace members if i am lucky to run into them. I'm not from Alaska so i can"t hunt wolves.
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>>100454895
You are still talking about aspects of the platform and not the users. And no matter how much you try to make "right wing" synonymous with libertarian, it's still blatantly misleading to say that 4chan is traditionally a right wing platform if for no other reason than the fact that exactly nobody can assume this very specific definition you've painted for yourself.
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>>100454559
Too edgy and vulgar, too /b/. Too "Final boss of the internet".

You should be ashamed of those days
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>>100454998

Libertarian connotes a lot of things, and even if a few of those things are pretty cool, too many of those things are fucking stupid.

So no.
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>>100451764
Horsefuckers and gays that have a tsun tsun fetish.
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>>100454998
Have you seen a political quiz on any board? most of 4chan seems to be some kind of liberul
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>>100454955
I don't think anything past 45 has been scanned online.
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>>100455074
How fucking stupid do you have do be. Your views are based around your own deductions and logic, not being different from the "uncool" people.
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>>100455070
/k/ likes grounded in reality military fiction. Such as gundam. And like like rifius. Cute anime girls with guns.
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>>100455019
Goddammit, I just want my chunky revolver, why do all the good guns have to be rare and out of production.

>>100455107
I never claimed the userbase was right wing, i said they were socially varied in their views in my original post, I was just pointing out the systemic difference.
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>>100455197

He's the sort of person who hates his old favorite shows once they become too popular.


>>100455203
>CAT SHIT ONE
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>>100455070
GitS
Jin Roh
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>/a/ talking about political views
So it's finally happened.. first /pol/, then /co/, then /v/, and now /a/

/pol/ 4.0
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>>100450454
Haha good fucking shit /k/ommando
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>>100455242
>>CAT SHIT ONE
So happy furries haven"t defiled cat shit one yet.
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>>100454386
>>100454463
Reminder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDFaNTr44lE
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So are the best boards on 4chan the ones with a 80-90%+ male population dedicated to a specific topic with obsessive/otakuesque/nerdy dedication to a niche not-very-popular hobby?
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>>100454998
Unrelated anon here, can we start using pictures with actual transparency instead of fake background JPGs?
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>>100455293
>Haha good fucking shit /k/ommando
thank you very much /a/non.
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>>100455284
At most we found out /k/ might spend more on anime merchs than /a/.
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Fuck forgot pic
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>>100452188
Yes
/co/ and /ck/ are /cock/ for instance
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>>100455364
That gun to the upper left, beneath the 1911. It's so tiny, but it looks almost like what they use to signal a race

Can you spoonfeed me what it is? I have no idea how i'd even begin to google for such a thing. I've never seen something like that, I don't even have a name for the type of thing it is
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>>100455239
And I'm telling you that the userbase in the past was overwhelmingly liberal. Hence >>100453456
4chan's software may have been imbued with the free spirit of the right wing but that's not what anyone was fucking talking about itt.
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I feel like my fucking head is going to explode after reading this thread. Politics are such hyperbolized and polarizing shit.
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>>100455306
Why do people like this have to like my hobby?
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>>100455412
This makes /a/ jealous because us little girls sure do love cock.
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>>100455461
If you agree that I'm right and you're wrong about politics I'll let you leave.
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>>100452407
I visited reddit for a period of three months a few years ago, came upon a subreddit devoted to religious debate.
That's what caused me to stop going on that godawful site, shit is filled with nothing but pretentious fucks who put the feelings of others above their own happiness.
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>>100455496
Because you can't fire people from a hobby.

Seriously, that's why.

Any hobby which does not intrinsically kill idiots will tend to accumulate idiots.
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>>100455403
>At most we found out /k/ might spend more on anime merchs than /a/.
I can believe that. Most people on /k/ seem to actually have jobs unlike most of let's say /v/. Also /k/ users like to invest on the stockmarket and be very capitalists. So /k/ user base might have more disposable income. i should start moching off /k/ users for free stuff. I am sure most of /a/ have jobs to. But they don"t often show off their collections on here.
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>>100455435
You can see the percussion cap on top, it's an old black powder pistol that doesn't even have a trigger. Not sure if it's rifled but probably is given the length.
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>>100453408
>THERE ARE NO SOCIAL RIGHTISTS ON THE INTERNET
Yes there are, on /pol/ and stormfront.
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>>100455599
None of the anime I watch has decent merch.
Nothing for me to buy.
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Lets find out were /a/ stands. Conservative, Liberal, Authoritarian or Libertarian.

http://strawpoll.me/1036099
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Oh duh, i just looked at the 'interests' boards on 4chan's homepage

the reason /a/ and /k/ get along is because /a/, /k/, (and /tg/) are the only niche interest boards on the site. the other ones are mainstream stuff like video games or sports or tv
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>>100455565
>fucks who put the feelings of others above their own happiness.
I don't even know what to think about this being an issue. It's not good or bad, just kind of interesting. There are places where placing others above yourself would be considered a virtue and all. And I don't just mean on the internet.
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>>100455565
I got to reddit only for the news links about technology, Linux and such. Rarely comment anything.
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>>100455666
Don"t forget /int/ is /pol/ lite and /wg/ makes /pol/ look like /lit/.
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>>100449857
>jews haven't taken over anime

oh boy

they may not be actual jews, but it's the same thing
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>>100455749
>and /wg/ makes /pol/ look like /lit/.

W-wallpapers? How does that even happen?
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>>100450195
Maybe 5 years ago.
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>>100455709
>http://strawpoll.me/1036099
stop trying to steal people dox's that ain"t cool man.
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>>100454404
One time I saw a /b/tard posting for the first time on /k/ refer to himself as a 'retard.'
He actually called himself a 'retard.'
He thought that was the word.
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>>100448281
>implying /v/ actually talk about video games to begin with. Fuck /v/
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>>100455711

You got the secret.
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>>100455785
You get bitch slap for posting communist or hollywood theme wallpapper. Apart of it is Nazi's spawn better art and wallpaper but still.
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>>100455885
I think i can count on one hand the times i've actually looked at that page to see the boards listed but I never realized there's only like 2 or 3 'nerdy-non-japanese-stuff- boards here. but that's also because of what used to be nerdy isn't anymore and why those boards are so bad
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>>100455461
Only when they're discussed by shitheads who think with their feelings and not their brains. I've had plenty of pleasant conversations with people of differing political views because we don't blow up on each other.

As a connoisseur of political discussion, I'm disgusted by this thread.
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Why are weapons so fucking moe
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>>100455741
This I can understand, but whenever they're discussing matters of opinion such as religion or politics, it's just gross.
>>100455749
>/wg/
wat
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>>100455974
I share your sentiment. And I actually want to know what the views of rational anons out there are. What do you think about this whole debacle?
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>>100455929
But.. how can /wg/ get more than like 2 posts a day? I forget it even exists 99% of the time

>>100455974
>Why are people arguing on 4chan

Seriously dude? for better or worse arguing and being pedantic tools is one of the core principles of 4chan, no wait, the internet at large.

and 4chan everyone is more prone to blow up on each other
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>>100447856
I can see why /a/ and /k/ get along so well. But why does /lgbt/ and /mlp/ want /pol/ cock so badly?
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>>100455711
So is
>>>/po/
>>>/toy/
and to a lesser degree
>>>/lit/
not niche?
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>>100455709
I only know what one of those words mean.
Go ahead and laugh.
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>>100456087
If /lit/ is niche than humanity might not be worth saving.
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>>100456087
i forgot toy existed it's quite slow. po is pretty slow too

lit is sorta niche but it's also odd becuase computer nerds dont usually read /lit/-tier books and stuff (actually /lit/'s idols hate nerds)
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>>100456140
I thought they did that just to make /pol/ uncomfortable.

To troll, one might even say.
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Vote so we can see where your true loyalties lay.

http://strawpoll.me/1036099
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>>100455974
Yep.
A political disagreement is no reason to lose a friend.
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/mlp/kan is cuter than /lgbt/san
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>>100452795
Probably because most Weeaboos on 4chan are also Americans
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Thank you /k/ for being ok.
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>>100456249
fuck no

fuck you

fuck off
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>>100456114
It is kinda niche because no one reads anymore. But not as much as the others. It's a fun place if you know what you like though.
>Almost done with Infinite Jest, I can finally return to /lit/ without fear of being spoiled.
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>>100456302
you just mad cause /pol/ likes us better :P
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>>100453971
You
I like you
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>>100456337
> :P
you want my goat, but you shall not get my goat
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>>100456129
/toy/ is pretty alright.
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>>100456355
>You
>I like you

no stop, even reddit has stopped doing this, why on earth would you start it here
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>>100456337
>>100456302
>>100456249
>>100456140
Wait so it's true /mlp/ and /lgbt/ get into cat fights over which one of them /pol/ likes better? I honestly thought that was just a joke until now.
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>>100456054
I honestly stopped paying attention halfway through. If it's about the gun control debate, it's one big distraction. The real issue is the lack of proper psychiatric healthcare. Gunmen that shoot places up have more in common with mental issues than the current scapegoat, video game violence.

>>100456056
A lot of those pleasant conversations have actually taken place here on 4chan. The only people that blow up here are a "very" vocal minority that spam these boards all day. The meaningful discussion comes from lurkers who don't feel a need to keep up some posts-per-minute record.
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>>100456393
I like this list. saved and thank you.
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>>100453971
>>100454559
Im screencapping this shit
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>>100456393
>figma Billy Herrington
Jesus Christ, what kind of company would produce those?
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>>100456427
Honestly does that surprise you at all at this point? I bet /an/ will fight /a/ now over /k/.
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>>100456011
That's Girls und Panzer.

You want Upotte!! pic related
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>>100456496
Anytime anon!
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>>100456393
>/a/
>aang
>not loli

what a disappointment, rest is ok
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>>100456617
Anon it's a joke, because he's not anime.
Get it.
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>>100455403
>At most we found out /k/ might spend more on anime merchs than /a/.

I have about 150 catgirl figures because reasons. But I spend far more on guns/ammo.
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>>100456665
But they are not even real catgirls. They are just wearing neko ears.
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>>100455709
>first question
>there is no 'leave it up to the states'
Wow you are a fag
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>>100456716

That is just the catmaids shown, and yes a lot of figures are just popular characters wearing nekomimi headbands. But dozens of the other figures have "real" ears, if that makes any sense.
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>>100456829
The confederacy lost, deal with it.
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>>100456978
The South shall rise again!
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>>100456978
I wish those idiots hadn't attacked Fort Sumter.

We would have let them leave peacefully.
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>>100456645
i thought on that too but then, nah can't be
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>>100457093
>/vp/ is digimon.
Come on man.
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>that phrase is apparently some big, overused, dead may may
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>>100457031
>>100456978


>There will never be an anime about loli confederates and yankees fighting with suffering and loli Lincon, Grant, Davis and Lee.
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>>100457031
Is this a joke?
We attacked Fort Sumter because they were restocking with both provisions and ammo
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>>100456978
What is the 10th Amendment
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>>100457169
>We attacked Fort Sumter

You must be gettin kinda old there, gramps.
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>>100457123
Yeah it actually is
Get with the times
>>100457158
I'd watch an anime about the Civil War.
Unfortunately they'd inevitably put black people in it and I don't watch shows that have black characters.
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>>100457211
'We' as in the Confederacy
Like one might refer to a favorite sports team as 'we'.
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>>100457211
>50 years from now
>there will be elderly with waifus
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>>100457212
What would be even better if the slaves were all brown girls and slavery was just depicted as light bullying. The butthurt from tumblr would be biblical.
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>>100449546
>kalashnikov
Rifle protect motherland.
Rifle never break.
;_;
Goodnight, comrade.
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>>100457169
Not a joke.

Read some history.

>>100457299
Little brown girls are ___ ____.
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>>100457123
thanks for understanding why it's considered harmful and should not be used
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>>100457299
>the slaves were all brown girls and slavery was just depicted as light bullying
>mfw
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>>100457350
Get that/any IVAN screencap in here.
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>>100457350
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>>100457438
DON'T YOU FUCKING START THAT SHIT HERE!
;_______________;
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>>100449083
A surprisingly reasonable article.
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>>100457430
>>100457438
>>100457478
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/ak/ is OTP
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>>100457488
Not really, since it's loaded with bullshit statistics.
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>>100457438
are we doing this where we contrast it with highschool girls pictures off instagram about how sad they are/have experienced loss?
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>>100457513
Stop ;_______;
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>>100457518
Even so, the stats aren't relevant to the central arguments given.
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>>100447856
I forgot C3-Bu existed. Too bad it wont get S2 even though it was decent.
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>>100457513
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>>100457438
>>100457513
>>100457488

http://www.historynet.com/perspectives-stalingrad-foes-meet-again-november-97-world-war-ii-feature.htm

prepare your tear ducts, its THAT one.
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>>100457438
>>100457513
Every Just/k/things thread, I go in expecting some cheap laughs and get this instead. I just want to be happy, dammit.
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>>100457534
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>>100457513
who is this hero?
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>>100457564
Yeah, they are. In the self defense part, he shits all over the Kleck defensive gun use study from the 90's for being "just a phone survey with 5000 people" when the Kleck study was textbook statistical sampling carried out by a third party organization with an enormous sample size. And then uses some bullshit voluntary response internet poll as a legitimate statistical source later on. The guy is a fucking retard who knows fuck all about statistics and pretty much everything else too.
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>>100457534
>>100457653
No. We're mourning a true patriot.
You're with the /k/ube now, Kalashnikov
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>>100457299
Sounds like it could actually be a good show.
>first result for civil war anime
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>>100457687
The last man stand years over half a century later. ;_;
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please tell me theres a character in this anime based on the m1911
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>>100457716
Yeah fuck you guys, I can't even type right.
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>>100457711
The self-defence issue isn't important to the argument at all.

His point is: lots of gun nerds want to own them primarily because they're fun to shoot. Self-defence is secondary.

The problem of the debate is that people try to make the argument a utilitarian. Want to attribute gun ownership higher meaning, societal use, and whatelse when it's really just a matter of having the personal freedom to do what one enjoys.
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>>100457854
>His point is: lots of gun nerds want to own them primarily because they're fun to shoot. Self-defence is secondary.
And that point is based on his incredibly poor grasp of statistics, as are all of this other points since he links shitty polls as his justification for all of them.

He says self defense isn't a big deal because guns aren't used for self defense regularly, but they fucking ARE. As the Kleck statistical sampling from the 90's clearly showed, at that time anyway. He just handwaves that very professionally conducted study away because he knows fuck all about statistical sampling.
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>>100454106
I will submit to you that it was ultimately communism which turned Christians into what can be seen today on social networking websites.
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>>100457974
It is completely true that he doesn't understand statistics, but that still doesn't affect the argument.

Fun first - self-defence second.
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>>100454379
The problem is that the definitions of these terms can change when needed.
This is why we put politicians on national television.
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http://strawpoll.me/1036099

/a/ still has an unfortunate number of liberals. No Authoritarians, which is good. Does at least have a healthy amount of Libertarians and Conservatives.
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>>100458060
>but that still doesn't affect the argument.
Yeah, it does. The reason that he says self defense doesn't matter is because he thinks it almost never happens. That isn't the case, it happens every day, meaning it is important.

It baffles me that you would take the opinion of a man who could not handle high school stats seriously. Every single point in that article is justified by shitty slanted stats created by people with agendas.
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>>100452310
/jp/?
Weaponized /a/ joke
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>>100457766
>Implying that's glorious Kalashnikov
If I remember right, he's a lone survivor from a victorious armor unit that clashed with China over a border dispute. All his buddies died over the years till he was the only one alive.
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>>100452123
Man just like I miss "you fail it" compared to "fail" I miss '...Sick, Degenerate, Jewified society...' compared to "Degenerate".
It's just not the same.
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>>100457854
Most people don't understand the philisophical argument for gun ownership because they don't reflect too heavily on it. The founding fathers understood guns are not just weapons, they are the base unit of power in modern society. Governments collect taxes, enforce laws, and protect property rights with guns, not with democracy, not with a social contract. However governments are only made and run by humans and prone to corruption and failure, so if the populace is armed the populace also holds the base unit of power in society to keep it in check. It makes the citizen equal to the state on a very basic physical level.
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Spice and Wolf + /k/ is just a meme

I bet only 5% of those fags even watched the show or read the manga
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>>100455364
The only one I recognize is the Mauser. I'm such a gun newb.
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>>100455666
/pol/ is libertarian.
Be there during an election and you'll see the ironic shitposter to actual political affiliation ratio warp.
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>/ak/ thread on /a/
>doesn't turn into gun control shit flinging
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>>100458363
/pol/ has many differing political views but there are a lot of conservatives and even some traditionalists.
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>>100458166
>Yeah, it does. The reason that he says self defense doesn't matter is because he thinks it almost never happens. That isn't the case, it happens every day, meaning it is important.
It does happen, but so do accidents and all kinds of other shit. The main problem is that the pro- and anti-gun faction try to debate on a utilitarian level. Adding up numbers and quantifying uses and risks to prove to the other side how useful or dangerous gun ownership is. Self-defence cases are added up against crime, accidents, school shootings, etc. and both sides have studies done for them to prove their point.

The author's agument is - and one I would agree with - is that this shouldn't be a utilitarian debate at all. It's a matter of personal freedom to do what one enjoys, even if it may pose a risk to oneself and others.
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>/ak/

Out.
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>>100458364
>>/ak/ thread on /a/
>>doesn't turn into gun
This is /a/ not /co/ silly goose.
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>>100458458
>/co/
I had to stop going on /co/ because it was just becoming too much.
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>>100458394
/pol/ is most certainly libertarian.
Not as much as /new/ was but they still are. The only thing that's changed is there are more neocons now.
Pinkos of various affiliation have always been around, as have the unironic natsoc.
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>>100458398
>is that this shouldn't be a utilitarian debate at all. It's a matter of personal freedom
Yeah, and everyone should be nice to everyone else and no one should ever commit crimes and everyone should be able to do what they want. But that is not how it works, laws are written all the time that restrict personal freedom to different degrees and different levels of effect, and no arguments are going to be won when all you say is that you 'should' be able to do something because you want to. Because the people who think you shouldn't aren't going to accept that shit for an answer. Which is why you need to argue with those people using actual fact and analysis and not just what you feel.

Gee I wonder what other magical adventures in fantasy land anon can take us on today.
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>>100458489
I stop going there after pointing out the writers admit making the new miss marvel being a teenage muslim feminist is just stupid pandering to make marvel comics look more progressive. How bad is it getting?
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>>100458550
I go there once a day maybe, there's always a fusion thread
Shit's getting out of control
Also any artwork posted is from tumblr.
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>>100450330
Yeah, why would /a/ want anything to do with /k/ of all places?
Bunch of white NRA, gunnut, right wingers
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>>100458550
Oh and if you hadn't heard, they're reviving the Ultimates team with two black guys and three white girls.
And their first enemy is like a group of racist white trash methcookers.
Honestly what the fuck
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>>100458599
>Also any artwork posted is from tumblr.
The probably that started it all is people linking threads on tumbler. Even /mlp/ don"t do that. They just post the art with no link to the source.
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I've always wondered what the deal is with the trap next to the guns in all their post chapter nonsense...

image should be spoilered cause 3d
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>>100458538
This debate is exclusively based on what people feel though.

Whether you left people with guns or took them away wouldn't make a significant difference either way.
If you took the right to legal gun ownership away, society wouldn't magically turn peaceful but crime wouldn't also magically explode.


You're not going to convince people who think the right to gun ownership was bad per se with your numbers because they have numbers of their own to back up their position.
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>>100458631
>racist white trash methcookers.
Methcookers are normally a mix of whites and Hispanics. Meth cultural was started by biker gangs. Hell's angels are mix of white and hispanics.
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>>100458702
and again image spoilering doesn't work

what is going on, why is the button still there if it doesn't work?
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>>100454998
Haha, nope.

Just because one doesn't want to be watched by the scary goberment doesn't mean they agree with everything that being a libertarian implies.

Just like in reality, most people are moderates.
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>>100458742
It's spoiled.
You probably have them turned off in 4chanX
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>>100458629
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>>100458742
It works just fine for me. Make sure your settings have it so spoilers are spoilered.
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>>100458766
now i feel stupid

thanks for not being a dick about it
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>>100458770
NO, seriously what the fuck is it with you retards and guns?
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>>100458786
>>100458766

thanks
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>>100458794
Anon no baka
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>>100458719
>This debate is exclusively based on what people feel though.
No, it isn't since there are actual facts involved.

>Whether you left people with guns or took them away wouldn't make a significant difference either way.
A significant difference to what? Crime? Where are your numbers that prove this? How was the testing conducted? What is a "significant difference" even?

>If you took the right to legal gun ownership away, society wouldn't magically turn peaceful but crime wouldn't also magically explode.
Yeah because as we all know things are just black and white and things that can't be defined in black and white terms are just stuff you have no control over.

>You're not going to convince people who think the right to gun ownership was bad per se with your numbers
You are if your numbers are right and generated by correctly conducted statistical sampling, it happened with me.
>they have numbers of their own to back up their position.
And their numbers will also be judged for their validity and people's opinions will form accordingly.
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>>100458818
>>>/out/
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>>100450954
>bent spine
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>>100458631
I stop following the Ultimate universe after they wen"t full retard/ They barely even recovered from ultimatum.
>If the Joker graphic novel came out today tumbler would have a meltdown.
Hell the Joker killed a elderly couple randomly. fire RPG at crowd of shoppers. He and Harley skinned a mob boss alive and than Harley start doing strip tease on top of his bleeding body. Yet Harvey dent wife getting off panel is too much? Not to mention you see more feminists outage over the Killing Joke now than they was back than.
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i miss /z/
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>>100458849
I-It's not like I want to thank you or anything!
It just so happened that I had some extra thanks lying around, and you seemed like you could do with some.
B-baka!
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>>100458905
why miss it?
Its the best it'll ever be.
Simple perfection
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>>100458902
>Killing Joke
Probably because of Babs
I read Death in the Family out of boredom, the Joker is becoming a pretty tiresome character.
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/k/, I love you, but this isn't anime related. I mean, just look at the faggots in this thread, do you really want something like this festering?
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>>100458978
would you say he's dead?
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>>100458861
>No, it isn't since there are actual facts involved.
Facts which hardly matter at the greater picture.

>A significant difference to what? Crime? Where are your numbers that prove this? How was the testing conducted? What is a "significant difference" even?
Take a look at other countries where gun ownership is less common. Gun ownership and crime are independent factors.

>Yeah because as we all know things are just black and white and things that can't be defined in black and white terms are just stuff you have no control over.
That's the scenario that is painted by the lobbyists of either groups though.

>You are if your numbers are right and generated by correctly conducted statistical sampling, it happened with me.
No, you're not.

Shall I construct an argument for you?

"If I can only prevent a single school shooting by banning guns, then that's worth it."

There you go.
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>>100458978
I hate the New edgy 2 joker. He had a few good scenes. But he trying too hard to be edgy with no point. It's like 90s comics all over again. Death of the family was a over hyped let down. nothing happened.
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>>100458988
You're a little late. It's at the post limit already.
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>>100458880
/a/- guns and shit.
Reported for off topic.
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>implying /po/ isnt best board and shouldnt be /a/'s waifu
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>>100459190
>/a/- guns and shit.
>Reported for off topic.
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>>100459073
>Facts which hardly matter at the greater picture.
And what is the "greater picture"? How many people does an issue need to affect before it's worth running statistics to find the root causes? Millions of instances of defensive gun use a year, who cares? There might be a few people who aren't convinced by that number so fuck all the others who might be convinced.
>Take a look at other countries where gun ownership is less common.
Since you apparently know it all, spell it out for me. Name me countries, what their crime rates are, what that crime is caused by, what all the societal factors involved are. Show me your statistics to prove what you say, how your sampling was conducted, so it may be tested for validity.

>That's the scenario that is painted by the lobbyists of either groups though.
So when a person or groups says, "crime rate is going up or down in X state" what they are really saying is "Crime was eliminated/boomed in X state".

>"If I can only prevent a single school shooting by banning guns, then that's worth it."
Prove that those measures will actually have a verifiable effect on school shootings. Then you would have a point, as it stands those words are meaningless.

Your retarded opinion seems to be that since you can't convince everyone there is no point trying to convince anyone.
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>>100459236
We had her first!
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>>100459260
Look at all that terrible trigger discipline.
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>>100459428
Looks like they weren't beaten enough for that.
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>>100459350
>>100459236
>Implying /po/ isn't /lit/'s bitch.
They're perfect together and you know it.
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>>100459346
>Millions of instances of defensive gun use a year, who cares?
Yeah, those get added up against instances of crime and accidents and you probably end up with two similarly large numbers.

Who's right now?

Either sides are going to attempt to find ways to discredit the other side's numbers, the methodology, etc.

>Name me countries, what their crime rates are, what that crime is caused by, what all the societal factors involved are.
If the answers to that were completely unambiguous things would be a lot easier, yet people have different points of view on the matter of what causes crime. Personally, I'm inclined to believe the primary factor is social disparity, but I'm neither a sociologist nor a criminologist so I prefer not to look into this much more deeply than that.

>So when a person or groups says, "crime rate is going up or down in X state" what they are really saying is "Crime was eliminated/boomed in X state".
The rhetoric isn't all that plain though. In most cases people are given horror scenarios or utopias.

>Prove that those measures will actually have a verifiable effect on school shootings.
Science does not prove. Only math does. Science can only confirm something through empirical testing. To ask me to prove this is thus a pointless demand.

I'd argue here that since the vast majority of school shootings were committed with legally owned guns, either by the shooters of their parents, restricting legal gun ownership should have an effect.

Keep in mind though - you're not arguing with someone who's opposed to civilian gun ownership. I'm not really "the enemy" here. I'm merely saying I think a less utilitarian debate would be helpful for the discourse. People should see gun ownership as more of a slightly risky fun, akin to owning a fast car, drinking alcohol, smoking, etc. - which can have a negative impact on society, but which we simply deal with because practically the risk isn't all that great.
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Guys...Can I /ak/ too even though all my guns are nerf and airshit

...I live in Crook County IL. Land of the commies
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>>100460101
Get a fucking recon, it's the only nerf gun worth getting.
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>>100460101
Being Illinoisan is suffering.
;_________;
>handled machine guns, 25mm chain guns, grenades, rifles, Killed a few rag heads
>I'm sorry sir, you need a FOID card to hand this revolver.
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>>100459992
>Yeah, those get added up against instances of crime and accidents and you probably end up with two similarly large numbers.
So clearly we shouldn't bother at all because it doesn't matter. Why bother taking stats for any issue? Everyone should just make decisions based on what they feel, regardless how how well informed of the topic they are.
>Personally, I'm inclined to believe the primary factor is social disparity,
So tell me why you are convinced that, I assume you didn't just prove that conclusion out of your ass, but base it on numbers that you read somewhere. But wait that can't be right because statistics are meaningless.

>In most cases people are given horror scenarios or utopias.
So show me one.
>The rhetoric isn't all that plain though.
I dunno, I've seen plenty of organizations who talk about crime rates or rates of just about anything to prove their legitimacy. Namely ALL OF THEM.

You're trying to shift the topic here regardless, because it is irrelevant what organizations do because I asked YOU why you think things can only be black or white.

>Science does not prove. Only math does.
Sweet semantics, really driving your point home.

>I'd argue here that since the vast majority of school shootings were committed with legally owned guns, either by the shooters of their parents, restricting legal gun ownership should have an effect.
So get some correctly conducted stats together to support your argument. Saying you think something should do something doesn't mean it will.

>I think a less utilitarian debate would be helpful for the discourse.
How could that possibly be the case? You really think the general public would accept "I think I should be able to own guns because freedom."? There are thousands and thousands of instances of limiting personal freedom, some of which have had positive effect, that completely discredit that argument.
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>>100459079
The joker was always edgy
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>>100459992
>but which we simply deal with because practically the risk isn't all that great.
So we have a huge number of people in the US who think that guns are a significant factor to crime, but it is a waste of time to use statistics to show those people what the real significance of firearms is. Instead we should just tell them that it's okay because personal freedom.

Brilliant, you should run for office.
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>>100460369
>The joker was always edgy
But he was still subtle.
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I didnt want to start a new thread to ask this, but when is the next Shokugeki no Sōma?

It's been like 20 days! I want more curry.
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>>100460355
>So clearly we shouldn't bother at all because it doesn't matter. Why bother taking stats for any issue? Everyone should just make decisions based on what they feel, regardless how how well informed of the topic they are.
That's not my argument at all. The point is: you can find data that supports either side. People who shot burglars in self-defence are going to be added up against suicide victims, people who actually shot themselves, dead children killed in school shootings, victims of gun crime, etc.

Making the whole thing a quantitative matter is not going to be so easy, because practically, to people it's also a qualitative matter. A certain type of people are going to get rock hard from a killed burglar, while another type of people is going to pity the poor fellow and is rather going to sob over dead children killed in school shootings.

This isn't just a numbers game. Overall, I'm not opposed to collecting data at all. I just have no illusion that this data is going to get you anywhere politically.

>I asked YOU why you think things can only be black or white.
I don't.

>Sweet semantics, really driving your point home.
My argument wasn't based on it though. It was just a remark.

>So get some correctly conducted stats together to support your argument. Saying you think something should do something doesn't mean it will.
So you want me to ban firearms in the US so we can see whether it will result in less school shootings? I fear I can't easily do that, so we'll have to live with the thought experiment.

So you don't think restricting gun ownership would keep the types of kids who would commit school shootings from getting their hands on guns? I do.

>You really think the general public would accept "I think I should be able to own guns because freedom."?
It would be a more honest debate because that's what it's mostly about.
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>>100460457
>So we have a huge number of people in the US who think that guns are a significant factor to crime, but it is a waste of time to use statistics to show those people what the real significance of firearms is.
Not at all. Showing people that the risk of legally owned firearms is smaller than they believe certainly serves a purpose.

The problem is that it usually doesn't stop there. The pro-gun side seems obsessed with making attempts to prove that guns lower crime, that they help uphold law and order, help people defend themselves in attempts of self-defence and so on.
The problem is that these aspects - which are indeed important to the pro-gun side and resonate with their world views - practically appal the anti-gun side who focus on completely different aspects and to whom these things simply aren't that important.

I think it would be more helpful to address the fears and prove that they're unsubstantiated - which indeed can be done with numbers. That doesn't make the victims go away and doesn't change the negative aspects, but perhaps people could come to accept that it would be disproportionate to restrict the freedom of countless law abiding citizens to do what they enjoy in order to achieve a minimal effect.
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>>100460818
>The point is: you can find data that supports either side.
And usually that data has enormous amounts of bias in it. There is only one true crime rate, suicide rate or whatever else. And there is no law of the universe saying that they need to be in balance. If you look at the actual stats the number of legitimate uses of firearms far outweighs the illegitimate uses. If most people knew those stats it would take the most die hard anti-gun type to deny them. Even if that wasn't the case cold hard numbers are the ultimate way to sway people to your side and would surely have an effect, as it has been doing for the past decades.

>Making the whole thing a quantitative matter is not going to be so easy, because practically, to people it's also a qualitative matter. A certain type of people are going to get rock hard from a killed burglar, while another type of people is going to pity the poor fellow and is rather going to sob over dead children killed in school shootings
There are people who will be adamantly in one camp but the vast majority of people who are not so invested in the argument will take the numbers into account. The vast majority of gun crime in the US is done with illegal weapons, only the tiniest fraction of crime is committed with rifles. These are the kinds of provable numbers that would absolutely have a significant effect if they were more well known. Just saying that some people will not care so it's meaningless is beyond stupid.

>I don't.
>If you took the right to legal gun ownership away, society wouldn't magically turn peaceful but crime wouldn't also magically explode.

>My argument wasn't based on it though. It was just a remark.
A stupid one that helps paint a picture of your general intellect.
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>>100461292

>So you want me to ban firearms in the US so we can see whether it will result in less school shootings?

Because there is only one place in the world where firearms are available, and that is the US. There are not 50 states all with varying gun laws that can be observed, much less other countries. With enough good stats you can find the truth in almost any situation, including availability of guns and its contribution to school shootings.

>The problem is that it usually doesn't stop there.
I personally know quite a few people that it stopped right there for.

>The pro-gun side seems obsessed with making attempts to prove that guns lower crime, that they help uphold law and order, help people defend themselves in attempts of self-defence and so on.
As long as these beliefs are supported by good numbers there is exactly zero legitimate ways to argue against them.

>practically appal the anti-gun side who focus on completely different aspects and to whom these things simply aren't that important.
Which is irrelevant, if a person can't see the value in self defense they'd most likely never be convinced anyway. The enormous amount of people in the middle though might like to hear those numbers, which is the point.

>I think it would be more helpful to address the fears and prove that they're unsubstantiated - which indeed can be done with numbers. That doesn't make the victims go away and doesn't change the negative aspects, but perhaps people could come to accept that it would be disproportionate to restrict the freedom of countless law abiding citizens to do what they enjoy in order to achieve a minimal effect.
This is exactly the same thing I have been saying. If you are proving the effects are disproportionate you are using your data to convince people and not just saying 'muh freedom'.
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>>100461292
>If you look at the actual stats the number of legitimate uses of firearms far outweighs the illegitimate uses.
There the qualitative matter comes in again: some people don't care that much about killed burglars. And no amount of them is going to outweigh the dead children for them.

>The vast majority of gun crime in the US is done with illegal weapons, only the tiniest fraction of crime is committed with rifles. These are the kinds of provable numbers that would absolutely have a significant effect if they were more well known. Just saying that some people will not care so it's meaningless is beyond stupid.
That's not what I said. Telling people that legally owned guns are less dangerous than they believe is something which serves the discourse. There you address their fears. Telling them that you can use them to kill lots of burglars and that it helps you uphold the law on the other hand might appal them.

>A stupid one that helps paint a picture of your general intellect.
True statements are stupid now? I think you're just butthurt because I was right.

>Because there is only one place in the world where firearms are available, and that is the US. There are not 50 states all with varying gun laws that can be observed, much less other countries. With enough good stats you can find the truth in almost any situation, including availability of guns and its contribution to school shootings.
Even in other countries, school shootings are pretty much exclusively done with legally owned guns.

>Which is irrelevant, if a person can't see the value in self defense they'd most likely never be convinced anyway. The enormous amount of people in the middle though might like to hear those numbers, which is the point.
It depends on how much focus you put on the various subjects. Refer to what I wrote in >>100461225.
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>>100461789
>some people don't care that much about killed burglars. And no amount of them is going to outweigh the dead children for them.
And how many of these people are there? Just because they exist does not mean that their numbers are significant. Based on the history of gun laws in the US in the past 30 years alone I'd say those people are quite the minority.

>Telling them that you can use them to kill lots of burglars and that it helps you uphold the law on the other hand might appal them.
See above

>True statements are stupid now? I think you're just butthurt because I was right.
Pulling semantics out of your ass to no effect in an argument is pretty stupid, yeah.

>Even in other countries, school shootings are pretty much exclusively done with legally owned guns.
So give me the numbers that some type of law would affect that significantly.

>It depends on how much focus you put on the various subjects. Refer to what I wrote in >>100461225.
see above



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