Who's a bigger Stu?
Well, Shirou creates illusions while Touma breaks them.
So I guess Touma would be the bigger Stu.
They're both cute and well-meaning
You are. Because you're stupiid
Neither of them are named Stu but Touma is 1cm taller than Shirou so he's technically the bigger of the two.
None of them
Neither of them, they're both best boys in their respective series
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1. Character I don't like
(origin: OP, 2014)
Ok there is the answer to the question that was asked thread over.
Touma and Shirou's Daily Life anime when?
Shirou in Index-Tan or Touma in Carnival Phantasm?
>Touma is 1cm taller than Shirou
Wait, what? Really? No lie?
>kamachiland x nasuverse crossover
I would pay for that
Yeah, it's not exactly noticeable anyways though.
Yep. Shirou is 167cm while Touma is 168cm. Of course this doesn't account for Archer but it'd be silly to compare using tat.
Why do you act surprised?
Shirou's a big guy for Touma.
Maybe it's just the illustrator's art, but Touma looks almost like a spiky-headed manlet at times.
>Touma 168 cm
>Shirou 167 cm
Shirou is guaranteed to still grow taller due to Archer, Touma's an unknown if he'll get that much bigger
Shirou is 17 and Touma is 16, so they should be their adult height, but anime never seems to get that. Teenagers are always shorter than adults in anime, then they have a growth spurt when they turn 18 somehow.
Shirou and Touma host a cooking show.
Next big hit, right there.
Touma seems to have gotten taller though, since before we was just a bit taller than Fukiyose, and now he's got a solid head on her in the LN. So he's probably like 5'9 at this point.
Touman may have all the bitches but he's shounen levels of dense when it comes to romance. Shirou is just a suicidal moron with no bitches. I honestly don't think anyone would want to self insert into either one these characters.
Let's talk about who has the better girls instead.
My vote goes for Shirou.
Touma can't cook though.
He looked taller at the start of the series.
Shirou's 18, close to 19. Illya is only a little bit older than him, as he says himself.
>All the characters appearing in this game are of at least 18 years of age
Type-Moon seems to have an obscure correlation with magecraft and a post-primary growth spurt.
Kotomine and Waver Velvet both get tall late in life.
Anime/manga targeted at the female demographic gets it right.
Obviously. It's not even a contest.
Index existing should disqualify Touma she's so bad. The only decent ones are Itsuwa and Railgun.
Sure he can. How do you think he feeds Index? Plus Railgun says so.
And then the headcrab started mutating his physiology.
Touma has Itsuwa and Kanzaki in it, which means his is already inherently perfect
They are the same, just look at the colors and the inverted colors
That's too tough to call, man. I'm inclined to give it to Touma just because he has so damn many girls of average and high quality that his harem just can't be beat.
Ilya is cuter than anything in Touma's harem, but the combined power of Touma's harem outclasses Shirou's.
>Not acknowledging 10032's superiority.
>Ed slowly gets taller as the story goes until he has a head on Winry a few episodes before the finale
>Scars he gets stay, but slowly fade away over 6 or so episodes, like the one above his eye
FMA wins for points in realistic depictions of human growth if anything.
She's too irrelevant and forgettable.
>>All the characters appearing in this game are of at least 18 years of age
That's just to avoid legal issues you stupid face
Touma is only 5'5"?
Could Touma kill a servant?
I'm sure he didn't know that anon.
>Ilya is cuter than anything in Touma's harem
Also, did the captchas just change?
Asians are small
All Japanese people are manchildren. Touma is no exception.
Yeah. Aogami and Tsuchi are both taller than him by a fair bit if you look. Though guy above pointed out that he was 5'5 at the beginning of the series, and he seems to have gained a few inches since.
Dude can still take down full-grown adults without much effort though, because anime.
We did this last thread anon.
The guy streetfights, fucker even thinks about centrifugal force when punching out dudes
Manchild and manlet are different things anon
Yes, very easily actually. They shouldn't exist and and Touma's powers are pretty effective against anything that works against reality. Anything they attack him with would instantly be destroyed and if they touched him they would be undone.
Shirou especially couldn't use projection against him effectivly. Then again Shriou couldn't probably just kick the shit out of him since he's far stronger.
I thought last thread was about protecting TouMANs smile?
I'm well aware. But it also means that, canonically, Shirou is 18.
And Shiki can kill Touma.
No, the last Nasu/Toaru thread.
Which we should do more often.
Could a servant rape Luka?
Was I seriously the only one who was 18 late in highschool?
There were two threads, one for protecting his smile, and Touma vs Shirou
He was 16 during FS/N
I don't think so.
He's most likely 17. Do you think Sakura is 18 too?
Luka's powerlevel was so bullshit by the end his incredibly rapable nature would be flipped and he'd rape a Servant
I'll break this illusion of yours!
>more powerful than a "god"
>has an extremely powerful and loyal waifu
Only if he wanted it.
No, he wasn't you dumb fucks. Legal issues or not, according to the game itself, he was 18. You can insert any headcanon you want for that to make sense, maybe he was held back for fighting or something, who cares. Source material gave his age, accept it and move on. It's not that weird to be 18 in highschool.
Touma gets shit done.
Shirou's the same anyways, he'd just Rule Breaker her.
Thenn what about Sakura? There's no way she's 18 and in the 2nd year of high school. By the way, did the captchas suddenly change?
>Created heaven and earth and everything
She wasn't a "goddess", she was a goddess. Still all-powerful, she even uses a big bang to try to kill you. And when she's charging at the end she's literally shaking the world.
And Luka and Alice still killed her ass.
>I'll break that rule of yours!
Shirou confirmed for delinquent
You're fucking stupid, see
Who knows? I'm using a 4chan pass. Plebians.
I wonder if Shirou would fit into the Delta Force.
I mean they're delinquents who just talk about girls and I think it's implied they went out drinking sometimes before the series started.
Shirou is a nice guy and student, but Shinji showed he can have asshole friends.
Shinji wasn't as much of a dick before the Archery incident, and after he only stayed friend with Shinji because of Sakura
No, TM is fucking stupid. I didn't make it up, they did. Sakura's 18 for some reason I suppose we'll never know, so I suppose she is 18 like Shirou.
Again. Source material. Age. Given. You are quite genuinely wrong. What you think < what the game states
Well for me, it suddenly got much harder because it requires both verification words now instead of one and there's this weird blob in it, but I'm not sure it's the same for everybody.
I-I hope I'm not doing something wrong.
Not really, Shirou's a serious guy who never goes out to have any fun, he's more likely to get along with Fukiyose then them
Did Shirou accidentally fire a kaladbolg and blow up the range or something?
Will he pay attention to Himegami?
I just skip those retarded ones with a blob on each word they're a fucking nightmare, fuck you moot.
They'll share cookan techniques
>Never goes out to have any fun
That I disagree with. Partly. They did show he has a social life and friends, and the narration mentions hang-outs he's had with them, etc. He also asks Saber out on a date for fun, and goes out with Rin for fun.
It's not that he doesn't go out to have fun, it's that he simply doesn't have fun when he goes out to have fun because he's insane.
Wasn't an Archery incident actually. Shirou hurt his shoulder during his job and had to quit the Archery club. Sakura started going to his house to help him out while he healed and Shinji didn't like that.
But Nasu is known to contradict himself at times. Although to be fair, I don't think Tsuki had the "18 and older" disclaimer. I just categorize their ages as "older teenager" and leave it at that.
Well for me they're both blobs and I have to solve both or else it says it's wrong. I guess it must be something on my end.
Shinji was jealous of Shirou's archery skills because he never missed and when Shirou did miss he did it on purpose, then Shinji was insanely buttmad
So he, Fukiyose and Himegami will form the Anti-Delta Squad?
But F/HA opens with him at a slumber party with everyone telling ghost stories. Apparently he has some form of social life. Issei, Shinji, and that one chick Rider wants to scissor all hang with him.
Himegami would be pretty decent in the Nasuverse, where vampires are much more prevalent.
The going out for fun with Rin thing kinda showed off his massive issues though
>…It was really fun.
>The town I only used to walk by…
>I didn't know all the things I didn't involve myself in were so meaningful.
>As soon as I think so, something like a cage falls on me, and I understand.
>I don't deserve this.
>I'm unworthy of all this.
>It tells me so from deep down within me.
No, its not just you. Those are the new shifty captchas its why there was an announcement saying Google is responsible.
This is coming from the same series that has an author that blatantly retcons shit.
>Shirou very blatantly duplicates and (half-assedly) fires Excalibur in HF
>"HURFF DURFF NOPE SHIROU CANT PROJECT EXCALIBUR"
You must forgive people who question the source material's legitimacy. After all, Nasu could just decide to retcon it to Shirou being 12 and Sakura being 5.
>I'm fucking retarded and I can't understand they only put the disclaimer to avoid legal troubles
Yes keep believing a 18 year old is in her second year of highschool
I'm still mad that scene was mentioned. It fucking screamed SHIROU IS THE RED MAN! I guessed it right there.
Hmm, Archer is an archer, has super hawk eyes and apparently can't miss. Shirou is incedibly good at archery, used hawk eye powers to see Tohsaka on the rooftop, and apparently never misses unless he wants to.
WOW, I WONDER IF THEY'RE CONNECTED SOMEHOW!
I thought he just said Shirou can only make a shitty version of Excalibur?
>tfw Kirito got his ass kicked by Touma in the LN polls this year and SAO dropped to 5th place
This was a good year.
No, he said can create something that looks like Excalibur but without it's divine nature, which is most of its power.
Shirou obviously. Touma may have more girls, but only Birdway, Mikoto and Othinus are as good.
Archer says he can't replicate it perfectly but he can trace something very close to it. I don't remember them outright stating he couldn't trace Excalibur and even then the character might've just been wrong
Apparently it's more like you didn't read it. He didn't trace black excalibur, he made a poor man's version of it. It had similar abilities, etc., but still wasn't nearly as powerful. It was just close enough that it could still do enough damage to kill Angry Man Jew. And he only managed to trace that shittier version of it with the bonus skill from Archer's arm.
Have you appriciated TouMAN yet?
Make way everyone, your saviour has returned !
He says he can't recreate it, but he can get very close to it while he needs to compensate with some real-world materials.
So he can make a poor man's excalibur with a pretty similar powerlevel, but it's still shittier and would kill him.
I thought you piloted Strike Freedom though
Oh that makes sense. I guess moot was thinking ahead when he put out those 4chan passes.
In UBW, he threatened to trace Excalibur against Saber but implied using it would kill him. In HF Normal end, Shirou traced the black Excalibur to destroy the Greater Grail.
Then Nasu said in an interview that Excalibur was made out of otherworldy materials like Ea so it couldn't be traced.
Then Extra CCC came out and said Archer could trace a patchwork knockoff called Excalibur Image that's just about as good as the real thing.
I see what you did there...
Please save us from IRC crew Jesus Yamoto.
The first is correct, the second not as correct, Shirou was still making an incomplete black excalibur, as he/the narration notes.
And in CCC Archer has the power of literally ever nameless hero that has ever existed. Hence why he can pull that off, CCC Archer was more powerful than counter guardian Archer.
That was UBW where he threatened Saber with it. At the time everyone thought he was bullshitting since Nasu said himself he couldn't trace a divine Excalibur, but then again he goes and does a close enough version in CCC anyways
Nasu handwaved Excalibur Image by saying that Archer's been boosted enough in the Moon Cell to make (ingferior copies of) Holy-Sword class weapons
(In reality he saw some animator make a projection of Excalibur, and as long as it was weaker than the original then he could roll with it)
I always appreciate TouMAN.
Touma just doesn't want to break his streak of not punching someone.
What joke am I missing?
Read that as "Kihara".
He already did, that man is not punching a pregnant woman, especially when the woman is an innocent, and the child isn't actually evil
Then why the fuck doesn't he ever trace Ea instead of Excalibur?
Granted that'd take some of the fun out of playing Gilgamesh if another character can use it.
Who would win, Kira or Touman ?
You mean when Kira is in his giant mech?
That's more Hamazura's thing man.
Because the animators didn't make a 3D model of Archer projecting Ea while Nasu was away
Jesus could probably beat Hamazura in 1 shot if he gets a bro hug from Athrun and just fucked Lacus.
Fan jokes and memes can't cover up bad characters, you know.
Nah, for Giant Robots there's only one duo for the job
Get outta here fun police.
People are just joking around because people who make these kind of threads have never actually read either series.
It's beyond Excalibur. Tracing the latter doesn't mean he can trace Ea.
I want this, that'd be amazing.
Yeah. Trust eroge age disclaimers. Reminds me of disclaimers that lolis attending elementary school are all 18 years old.
>And in CCC Archer has the power of literally ever nameless hero that has ever existed. Hence why he can pull that off, CCC Archer was more powerful than counter guardian Archer.
Bullshit. You don't top 100,000,000,000 unit of prana with something like that.
What are you going on about? CCC Archer was the embodiment of all nameless heroes throughout history.
Touma is the hero we deserve
The characters aren't but the VAs were
The Motherfucking TouMAN.
I miss him
Which is not going to top having infinite prana.
And CG Archer has infinite fucking prana. There is literally nothing stoping him from projecting a billion over-charged Caladbolgs at once and firing them. Or spamming a billion replicas of every fucking sword he ever owned at once and spamming it.
CG Archer is like having a trillion Full Powered Servant Archers that all have Avalon-tier healing.
>denying the power of the biribiri
best girl 5 years running, and even won best LN character overall, first girl to do it
Her popularity will drop once she grows her Worsts
Not quite, headshot and heart piercing will still kill him. But Saber Alter-tier certainly.
At the rate this series goes, that will never happen.
TouMAN Can't wait for her new super move
>Barrel of ovulating boredom
What if there's a time skip?
He kind of gave us one. A huge one.
And then it all reset...
Over 30 volumes have been written and only four and a half months or so of time has passed
I think the biggest time skip was that one entire week where WW3 started and Touma was hitchhiking to Russia.
I still wonder how the fuck he went from England to Russia during war time with no help and shitty English skills, stop handwaving that question away, Kamachi!
Besides how limitless prana isn't going to buff his output to the point where he can spam anywhere near that number.
Biggest issue would be crossing the Channel, and the war hadn't quite started yet so he had some time.
After that it's just overland. Touma's proven to be stealth as shit and can evade soldiers pretty easily, he probably hid on a military train.
How he got from Hawaii to Baggage City is the better question.
Pretty much this. SEED was practically if Universal Century Gundam was Deviantart-tier fanfiction, and Lacus is the literaly the writer's self-insert.
>Excalibur was made out of otherworldy materials like Ea so it couldn't be traced.
Bullshit. Nasu said the exact same thing Archer said in UBW: "A sword of that rank can't be perfectly replicated, but a degraded copy is possible." Which is exactly what happens in every single case.
Seriously, this matter seems to be like a litmus test for retards who are simply fishing for something to whine about and make up blatant bullshit to back it up. It's the same wrong facts every single time.
Alternatively, there's one really sad fucking bastard who keeps bringing up this totally void complaint hoping that just once there won't be anyone else in the thread who has read the material and calls him out on being wrong.
Not sure which one is more pathetic.
Please, Touma less Stuic character ever.
>yfw illya is 18 even without the intention of avoiding legal issus
reminder that this will never happen
Touma, but he's so big of a stu I can't help but think they were going for that.
>implying both characters aren't pandering to neckbeard otaku's power fantasy
Come on /a/ be more honest with yourself.