New chapter today. Scans sometime later
Black Lagoon thread
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>New chapter today
19th is sunday
Either way it's going to be soon
The 19th anon. Today is the 17th.
more cute revy when?
Balalaika needs more love, I couldn't care less about all the chinks infesting the story right now.
I realise that.but i thought it would be out on the 16th in japan because it's saturday
Your inability to count gave me hype way too early.
I hope you are proud.
This. And Hiroe needs to not be so damn lazy. Fuck
Cute brothers first probably.
>no holding back
Are they finally going to do it?
she needs to go full dere first
speak american you terrorist
Queen's English only thank you
>I just figured I'd something about things I was indecisive about
I actually finished the anime series of this a few days ago, good but feels really unfocused.
Also, I'm surprised at how morally ambiguous everyone except Rock was.
Balalaika is a great example, sometimes she helps out the BL company. Other times she's willing to have her men shoot Revy dead or kill Rock herself for a mere slight. This isn't a dig though, it's this that makes Balalalaika one of the most believable characters I've seen in an anime to be described as 'dangerous' because she fucking is.
Sending Rock that picture of the Japanese girl with a red X crossed over her was pretty fucking scummy though.
Get out of my country
>I actually finished the anime series of this a few days ago, good but feels really unfocused.
You're luck you didn't try to read the manga
Is it bad to want some awkward cutely romance in this guns and violence and swearwords manga?
>implying I am
>Get out of my country
On the internets..." my country"
Do they not have an overarching plot of some kind in the manga?
It's just weird, the last episode of the series had no finality to it whatsoever, nor did it feel like it was leaving things open.
Like the search for the magic key or something?
Why would they?
What the FUCK is that guy doing with my waifu?
Of course it isn't
Any place I am in is America. Now git out.
The plot is the same, but there are a whole lot more useless subplots in the Roberta arc.
the plot is just rock surviving
The stories are about the jobs that Black Lagoon takes on. There is no real overarching plot, they don't have a long term goal and they are not saving the world. You read it for the characters.
>Why would they?
As enjoyable as some episodes are, I don't think I could watch it for too long knowing that it's just them fucking about endlessly.
I guess I'm interested in the development of the characters, which only seemed to be Revy and Rock as far as the anime went, Benny and Dutch weren't in the anime nearly enough, especially Dutch, who sits out the entire arc where Rock and Revy accompany Balalaika to Japan.
I love the quote where Ditch tells Benny how dangerous rock would be if he learned to shoot a Gun, it's so true, plus I like hearing Dutch appreciate Rock's particular expertise.
...sometimes I wish someone would wipe the smug smile of Balalaika's face as well, on the subject, there's no way she's as invincible as she likes to think she is, I bet Roberta could have taken down.
BL's only real metaplot is Rock and Revy's relationship, but it does do a good job of introducing new characters to keep things fresh.
the plot is how long it takes revy and rock to hook up
Are they nearly there in the manga? Like, has either of them at least realised they care about each other or admitted it to themselves?
Revy's attraction to Rock is pretty cute.
as much as i love roberta. balalaika would have her entire spetznaz unit take her down. that is a tough fight to win
>>100445391 and >>100445837 are from the last chapter of the manga. Make of that what you will.
That's only if she knows she comi...are we going to powerlevel in a BL thread?
not the first time
We made a chart once, but I forgot to save it. As I recall, Roberta came out on top.
Roberta is physically the strongest. One on one she would wipe out anybody.
She just doesn't have any support beyond Fabiola
It will be glorious when her psychopathic shell cracks and we see the creamy center.
It's hard to call, as many things I imagine Balalaika doing, like what she did to the Twins which should theoretically kill Roberta, I have no idea if they would as by all rights Roberta shouldn't have survived when she blew up that Bar while still inside it.
Yeah, support was explicitly excluded from the rankings. Otherwise it's just a contest between Balalaika and Chang.
What is Rock suddenly wore the shirt she bought for him that he never wore?
Or was that an anime only thing?
She also caught and bit through a sold metal kuruki that was aimed at her head.
Bitch shoud be dead.
he has yet to wear it
The episodes where all of Roanapur's finest try to kill that woman while BL protect her is fucking mental, I'm glad Chinglish survived as well, she's pretty awesome.
Yeah, which is why it's hard trying to envision what would happen if she took on Balalaika, you'd have to go 'So a Sniper shoots Roberta at this point' and just guess if she'd survive it or not.
She's like a Powerhouse with wild card aspects. Whereas Balalaika is more straightforward.
Wouldn't the rip-off church with its CIA backing be at the top?
And Balalaika is older
Unless she can stay out of sight and snipe her, no chance against Roberta
She was high as fuck on pills though
When he does, she's going to drop her spaghetti over it pretty hard.
Ah yes, I'd forgotten about them
Eda and Revy make an amusing pairing, can't tell how sincere their hatred/respect for each other is.
I don't care how high she was, that shot should have broken/shattered her teeth.
At the very least she should have ended up with almost no teeth left and a smile as big as Heath Ledger's Joker.
Which would actually be kinda awsome.
well she is terminator maid.
she's stronger than dutch and he's pretty muscular
I liked how Dutch tried to punch her in the arm as she was dragging him through the car window, and had absolutely no effect at all.
las FARC doesn't fuck around
Does Revy really execute all the innocent non combatants in the Manga when she gets 'Whitman Fever' as opposed to letting them live like in the Anime?
Yup. Manga Revy is a whole lot more messed up than Anime Revy, and this is considering that Anime Revy was the one who was raped.
So why did they change it? I liked that the anime has the main characters being pretty scummy for once, I don't know about you guys but I thought Revy was almost villainous at times in the beginning, not even an anti hero so I wouldn't have exactly thought less of her at that point.
Did they feel it'd be too big a line for her to cross form ost people?
anime isn't 100% true to the manga, but it's close enough
The way people seem to run into hordes of bullets and not get hit seems to bother me more in this than anything else for some reason.
And my head almost exploded when in the Japanese takeover arc, that punk who kidnaps the girl with his men manages to kill one of his own despite the fact he was way behind in drawing his weapon, then to make matters worse his mean run off in fear for some reason instead of just shooting him and surprise surprise they get shot in the back.
>In a Black Lagoon thread
On the other hand, I would watch the fuck out of a serious show about serious operators doing serious operations too.
I know, it's still annoying though, it's one of the reasons I found the Hansel and Gretel episodes a bit too much, I just couldn't get over the fact that Balalaika's elite organization where getting fucked hard by a bunch of Kids.
And when they kill the ones in the Bar, the part whey they take one of them alive to torture him, there's a bit where they were effectively sandwiched between two groups who could kill them iirc, yet somehow they survive.
Don't get me started on the one with the Axe being so successful at surviving.
Wait for Abel to get animated
They just know they can work together for the same goals at some times. They'd kill one another without much or any remorse if they had good cause.
No, she was destroying her body pretty badly. She just didn't feel the effect then and there.
But Revy always hangs out with Eda when she's 'off duty' so to speak, that's gotta' count for something.
>I just couldn't get over the fact that Balalaika's elite organization where getting fucked hard by a bunch of Kids.
That's not too hard to believe. They wouldn't expect a bunch of kids to fuck with them like that
Russians got fucked pretty hard by child soldiers/suicide bumbers in Chechnya
Don't fuck with Balalaika.
They were stupid punks and rapists, not actual gangsters. Those guns were used to intimidate civilians in back alleys, not to do drive-by's or shootouts in parking lots.
They weren't getting fucked hard, they lost barely a handful in the beginning, and only because they were taken by surprise. And the twins had the backing of the Argentinians (was it?), otherwise they would've been found and killed right away. It was a big thing because of the way it happened, just shooting high ranked organization members like that, not because of the body count. It was basically a covert declaration of war by one of the established powers of Roanapur against Hotel Moskow. That's why she treated it as seriously as an overt war.
Well yeah, they get along well. Doesn't mean they mean anything to each other.
The anime changes the basic idea of Revy's character to a certain extent. Manga Revy doesn't really have a concept of right and wrong. She follows Rock around because he's the only person she's ever seem being nice. She'll do whatever the hell Rock wants because "do what Rock says" is the closest thing Revy has to a moral code.
Anime Revy is a whole lot different. She has an extremely well develop sense of morals, to the point that she's only able to see the world in black and white. Anime Revy's problem is that she's lost all faith that people can hold up to their morals. To her everyone else is a hypocrite, spouting off fluffy phrases and doing dirty deeds the next. At least she'll be honest while she's ripping you off.
And that explains why the anime changed Rock's "motivations" in the Roberta arc. Rock admitting he's a villain just makes him like Revy. Rock spouting off moral justifications while attempting to have Roanapur destroyed makes him everything Revy hates.
Like how Shenhua was Revy's ally in one episode and enemy in another.
No, Revy and Shenhua don't get along at all.
>It was a big thing because of the way it happened, just shooting high ranked organization members like that
I'm surprised that she's surprised, I think she's lucky she didn't get whacked in Japan the way she walked around in the open like she did.
Look at the standoff between her, Revy and her bodyguard, she could easily have died there but didn't because Revy fears her.
>I think she's lucky she didn't get whacked in Japan
They wouldn't have had the balls to do it.
That's something I never got about standoffs, how can the other person tell they're not going to just fire?
I'm not a gun expert or anything but can you see the muscles in their hand move or something?
I don't get why in scenes like the Church bit where Eda and Revy have guns pointed at each they didn't shoot each other straight away, what were they both expecting to happen out of that situation? In Eda's POV why did she not just kill Revy right there, seeing as Revy had no backup and she did?
You don't die instantly of a gunshot wound. Even headshots will still have to functioning for about 5-10 seconds, more than enough time for the other guy to fill you full of lead.
Find out when she's going to a meeting, set up a sniper or a blockade on the streets like when Sonny is killed in The Godfather.
No way to know which family was responsible.
Also, it's a shame they make every other gang that isn't hers look like complete wimps.
Then the rest of Hotel Moscow would just come down and wage rampant war in the middle of Tokyo.
At the range some of these people are, doesn't a headshot mean the other guy is losing a significant portion of his actual face?
Why should they care about that, at least from their POV (not ours, since we know how Balalaika mops the floor with one of the Yakuza families) they should feel they can handle themselves.
>I'm surprised that she's surprised
Not surprised, angry at being challenged and at the loss of old comrades.
>I think she's lucky she didn't get whacked in Japan the way she walked around in the open like she did
Her enemies weren't capable of that. Couple of small-time Yakuza gangs don't have many proficient gunmen at their immediate beck and call. You need to know where someone's gonna be in order to lie in wait for them.
>Look at the standoff between her, Revy and her bodyguard, she could easily have died there but didn't because Revy fears her.
Well yeah, could have, but that would've spelt the deaths of Revy AND Rock. She knew it, Revy knew it.
Imagine 15 more Balalaikas
Russians don't operate like the Japanese do.
Doesn't particularly matter. The other guy will put the trigger on instinct, and the gun is already pointed at your head.
Revy wasn't going to do shit though, and everyone knew it (look how calm Yolanda is, she knows the score). Revy is just uselessly waving her dick around, a rather impolite thing to do.
Depends rather heavily on calibers, and accuracy. The point is, if you shoot first you might die, if you shoot last you might die. If you don't shoot first then perhaps no-one shoots, and then you know you don't die.
>She knew it, Revy knew it.
Revy should have been shot the minute she pulled her guns out on Balalaika and her bodyguard tbh.
You don't think think there would be repercussions from killing the leader of Hotel Moscow? The woman an entire company of former SF operatives are willing to die for? Revy is impulsive, but not stupid.
>Revy is just uselessly waving her dick around
But she is a genuine psychopath at times, I know I wouldn't trust her to not shoot.
>The point is, if you shoot first you might die
Okay, I don't know the truth of what happens to people shot in the face so I'll take your word for it that they're still in a position to fire back.
I see that, but if she wasn't going to do it she shouldn't have pulled her guns out in the first place.
That said, I actually wasn't talking about Revy shooting Balalaika there, I was wondering why Revy herself wasn't just blown away the minute she went for her guns, I guess she's pretty fast on the draw to match an Ex Russian Army Soldier's draw speed.
No, you don't just shoot someone who you know isn't going to shoot you. At least not if you don't want them to start shooting you for shooting them.
Revy isn't crazy. She just acts that way so people will do what she says. It's an easy way of getting what you want, but intelligent people will see through it.
>But she is a genuine psychopath at times, I know I wouldn't trust her to not shoot.
But she pulled her gun precisely because she was having a feelings moment. The psychopath thing to do in that situation would have been to give no fucks about whether Rock died or not.
I was assuming that the bodyguard could have dispatched Revy before she could to him, but I have since learned in this thread that maybe Revy could still kill someone before dying.
I assumed most of these standoffs where for dramatic effect, not because of all this stuff, though I guess it's both, like in a Mexican Standoff which is obviously a lot more clear cut on the reasons why the participants are unwilling to fire.
Well, they ARE for dramatic effect, people don't just stand there drawing their guns at the same time. And if they did, they would probably start shooting immediately, and most if not all of of them would die or be wounded. Because people with guns are rarely rational and thus can't count on the rationality of others.
>And if they did, they would probably start shooting immediately
But I've been told by people in this thread that they wouldn't!
Do you want to read about competent and interesting fantasy gangsters or dumbass rejects who think they're the shiznit because they can afford hookers and blow? Because that's what actual gangsters are like. And most of the time they don't start pulling guns at the same time, because if they're in the same areas then one of them is likely intruding for purpose of elimination or harassment, and is thus trying to get the drop on the enemy.
The scenario here is just "if they weren't dumbasses and actually paused to think at these times." Then no-one'd shoot, like in Black Lagoon. IRL no Russian gangster would have a discussion about ideals and hypocrisy with a translator while guns were pointed everywhere.
>Then no-one'd shoot, like in Black Lagoon
Well, no-one would pull their gun like that, either.
I believe this illustrates my point. (Killer 7 spoilers)
See? Garcian Smith gets it.