Opinions on this?
That's it? Awesome for what reasons? Action? Animation? Story? Characters? Sound? Help me out here.
Seems like another Scrapped Princess to me.
I liked scrapped princess better, actually.
ok /a/, go ahead and crucify me.
watch it. it should have never ended ;_;
the action was handled well from what i remember and the presentation was nice. what struck me as the most interesting what the detail that went into the political systems of the world. also be warned that it ends abruptly in the middle of one of the story arcs.
i would suggest reading the books instead of watching the anime.
translated copies can be found at http://www.eugenewoodbury.com/
in both offline and online reading options.
It's about a girl that gets whisked away to another world.
It's awesome because it does the whole "different world, magic kingdoms" thing right.
It gets the whole eastern vibe without the whole manga shit vibe that so often accompanies it.
What you end up with is a very interesting world with attention to detail and just the right dose of mystery to keep you going.
Also, the protagonist becomes awesome later on too
It's a great story, animation and artwork aren't bad
Just a darn shame they didn't finish it (based on novels, not everything was animated due to blablabla, you know how those japs roll)
I watched the first 2 episodes. I know it's supposed to be awesome after, but... no, I can't, it's too boring.
Don't crucify me, I loved Princess Tutu.
When for example, Scrapped Princess does it wrong.
Dragon knights in a post-apocalyptic fake medieval word that is shrouded by orbital mirrors by an alien race? What the fuck is that shit, pick a genre, stick the fuck with it.
In 12K's case, it's an eastern medieval fantasy setting, and you can be fucking sure there's no aliens, robots, or what the fuck have you, coming to fuck up the whole thing 20 eps in the show
Nobody but you and I watched Scrapped Princess.
Isn't it sad, anonymous?
rewatch it, skip first 10 episodes. You won't lose much, but you will lose the phase of the show where you're figuring things out and piecing shit together yourself, and you will miss figuring out the major plot twist before the anime tells you straight out.
So sure, go ahead, if it means watching it
Watched Scrapped Princess too. It was nice, but it's closer to ZnT than 12K
whats the name of this anime?
Okay. The series is based on some popular fantasy novels. Story is mainly centered around Yoko (red haired chick) who finds herself drawn from Japan to another world that has a bit of an ancient China feel to it. World is extremely detailed and well thought out.
She starts out as a generally unlikable character, whining and crying and feeling sorry for herself. As you watch her fight to survive in the country of Kou (one of the Twelve Kingdoms), her character matures a great deal and becomes far more agreeable. There are other stories later on, but if you don't like Yoko's story, you may as well not watch that far (45 episodes total).
Music is outstanding overall and lends the word a refreshing flavor. Animation is average to above average throughout the series.
Biggest downside is that the author stopped writing, and thus the series ends with many questions unanswered. There is an ending, and it's decent considering that they ran out of material, but it's still a bit unsatisfying.
Overall: It's awesome.
decent. the rat fails thou
Twelve Kingdoms. Anime adaptation of a book. Anime stopped after a few self-contained arcs, but it didn't have an ending.
Books develop the plot more and have more arcs, mainly the Taiki Story, but they also never reach a point that can be called an end as far as I know. Author stopped writing them, but might continue.
Fantranslated books exist, and there was a link on the thread.
Official translated books also exist for sale by tokyopop I think, can find it on amazon, the first volume at least, with the second coming this August. First volume covers the first arc of the anime, which is Youko's first story.
Tokyopop's book has some awesome covers, good translation job, and it's certainly worth buying
All of that followed logically though... They didn't just spring all this shit onto you 20 episodes into the series. Hell, Zefiris shows up 6 episodes into the series, and it become obvious it's not going to be your traditional fantasy anime.
Mostly story and characters. I'm a big fan of the anime, but even I admit it sucks in the first few episodes. It doesn't really start to shine until after the first arc, and the entire third arc is epic. The first arc can be painful to watch, but trust me, it's worth it.
Don't skip any episodes, other than the summary ones. There's a lot of confusing terminology. You should have a browser open to the wiki of all the terms used while watching until you get the hang of it.
case in point, look at dat fukken cover
The only good part is when she dies
Youko shows the most amazing development out of any character in any anime I've ever seen. That alone makes it worth watching.
How does her character development differentiate from, say, run-of-the-mill Evangelion-type character development?
The characters in Evangelion developed?
She doses something besides collapse in on herself and fail.
she starts wimpy, toughens up, toughens way the fuck up, realizes it, mellows out a bit, stabilizes at pretty fucking tough but calm and friendly.
The side stories were the most pointless and inconclusive pieces of shit I've ever seen.
Youko is a slut.
She becomes legitimately awesome at the end. Not just because of what she CAN do, but because of how and why she does it.
Taiki Side story is the best story in the series.
magical schoolgirls with swords, wow
I'm not sure if that is exactly a good type of development -- toughness is surely satisfying for those wanting an action anime? How about changes in intelligence, morals, etc?
The show could have ran over 100 episodes and still have been amazing and never have gotten boring.
Mixed with political backstabbing, lessons about morality and maturing, and pretty believable and likeable characters for the most part.
Yeah, I know, shit sucks...
I agree with the development of Yoko's character. While at the beginning she may come off as some whiney emo bitch that needs saving, she eventually becomes awesome. She learns not to rely on others, accepts responsibility for her actions, and goes on to become someone rather admirable. I'd go into more details, but don't want to spoil shit for people that haven't seen this anime. The other arcs are just as good, or better.
>How about changes in intelligence, morals, etc
She becomes wiser; realizes she has to deal with unpleasant decisions in order to do the right thing.
I didn't mean toughness as in battle ability, I meant it character wise.
She becomes way more self dependent, emotionally stable and generally a mature person than she starts at. Basically she goes from your average school girl to someone who understands responsibility and takes it for things that are way bigger than him.
Also it's a miracle we're 35 posts deep here, and noone has spoiled the major plot twists.
If you're still reading after 35 posts you need to get the fuck out of here because I guarantee this won't remain spoiler free for another 20 posts. Get out and go watch it.
I've seen it a long time ago; I just wanted to see what 4chan thought, so I pretended I hadn't seen it and posed some almost-flamebait questions.
Nope. I'm the OP.
Off to watch this.
twelve kingdoms is a pretty cool guy, eh has many freinds too yiff with and doesn't afraid of anything.
No, seriously, this is the epitome of ambitious project gone painfully wrong. Let me count - dislikeable main character with no redeeming qualities except the writers telling us she's a hero, dislikeable and/or unrealistic side characters existing solely to force morals into viewers, said morals being completely ridiculous and/or contradicting themselves (ie. "woman should stay in the kitchen, except if they are randomly chosen to be a hero of the story" or "stop whining, emo kid, a dying, blind boy suffers more than you and yet he's happy"), comically evil villains ("lol I'm bored, I want to kill myself an emperor, who cares if I'm a low-rank state officer"), awkward scenes and pretentious dialogues presented in complete seriousness...
I could go on and on. This is 4chan, though, noone's gonna read it. So, tl;dr: as I already said, shit sucks.
should have ended at like ep 15
Elaborate a bit more on these contradictory morals, please.
More like should of started at episode 23 and finished at 39.
whatever, cause it felt very dragged out in the end
Some (a lot? most?) shows here are popular because anon is so simple minded and has such low standards.
More ridiculous than contradictory, but...
...take the first arc, for example. You have that goth girl, who's gradually shown to be a clueless whining emo bitch who thought she's going to be a hero of a fantasy story but has no skills, capabilities or motivation to acquire them. The moral being - don't try to become what you can't. So far so good. Until we compare her to the main hero, that is, in which case it turns out the latter is also a clueless, whining emo bitch with no skills and capabilities; moreover, we get a timeskip of a few months immediately after to see that the main hero is still a whining emo bitch with no skills or capabilities who's just doing what everyone tells her to do, despite the story telling us she's a hero and a chosen one capable of being a ruler of the country. Which turns the moral into something akin to: "Don't bother trying, gods decide who you become". Let's not forget the goth chick's final monologue as she decides to come back to Japan and have many kids and stay in the kitchen where her place is. That's so... Japanese...
Sorry about the late reply; I was sidetracked in real life.
You see, this is entirely the fault of the anime and not the author's fault. Sugimoto and Asano merely had a few sentences in the first book throughout, and, yes, I totally agree it's a ridiculous premise (evil villains, hurr hurr) -- but not for the same reasons as you. I do believe Sugimoto & Asano are a hindrance to the series and they should of been faithful to the book.
The way I see it, 'the will of the gods' is merely a plot device to mature Youko. The books were a response to letters she had been receiving from young girls, and I don't believe she was trying to put across the message of 'heavens deciding fate'. If it did, it would be pretty shitty advice. Of course, I'd happily hear a counterexample to refute my belief.
Personally, it was a pleasant experience for me. I am a complete novice in philosophy, literature, etc and I had not even heard of Confucianism before! All in all, there were some morals which I found admirable (especially her first resolution in episode 39 -- by far my favourite) and others I did not agree with.
One thing I do like is its bluntness in putting forth morals; I prefer it to searching for something that may not be there!
6 days until the book comes! Fuck yeah.
May Rakushun have mercy on your soul.
Rakushun does fail.
I just ordered mine. It says it will be delivered within 2 days.
just wondering but did you miss the part in the start where keiki ASKED if youko would accept him and that the change happened only after she agreed?
its more like she was just owning up to the decision she made at that time. apparently you just need the right qualities to become a ruler.
And yours too.