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You know what time is it /a/

Best meguca thread
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Okay.
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>>100424319
I guess I'll start the thread then
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>>100424549
oh look a right answer
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Sure, why not?
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>>100424319
Check the catalog next time.
>>100385690
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>>100424647
we don't want a worst girls thread though
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>>100424319
>>100424524
>>100424549
>>100424618
>>100424647

You're all correct, good taste.
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>>100424688
That's the spirit.
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>>100424874
>kyoko without sayaka
trash
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Who's best meguca and why do you guys think it's Mami?
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>>100425230
Because she's a a lovely gal who wants only what's best for her team. She makes the best leader and has the best powers, fuck homura.
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Madoka is olev
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>>100424319
Sayaka thread :D
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I just want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Sayaka.
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This thread has serious lack of best meguca.
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Which meguca stinks the most and why
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>>100425679
a best.
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>>100425831
Raspberry
Apple
>Cheese
Pumpkin
Melon
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Melon becomes God. Our omnipotent god is a magical girl. How does anyone else compare?
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>>100425714
I agree, I only see one Kyouko pic
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>>100425831
Kyouko lives on the street, eats tons of junk food and probably fights more than she stands still
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>>100425998
This.
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I've been seeing a lot of shitty threads lately. Why don't we change this thread into a BEST THREAD?
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Great thread guys
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>>100429445
It was all along.
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>>100429465
I agree!
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>>100425831
Nagisa. Because she cut the cheese
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>>100429520
This warms my heart. It really does.
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>>100424319
>>100425529
Any more with her hair tied only on one side? It's cute.
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Sayaka a filler
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This is the most varied, yet tame best-girl thread I've seen in a while. Are we headed towards Pax Meguca?
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>>100429579
Sayaka-chan has that effect on people.
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>>100429813
Sayaka fills my heart.
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>>100429830
I don't think I'd be alive without her.
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>>100429813
I'd fill Sayaka with my semen
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But there are two best girls, how can I post just one when there are two?
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>>100429691
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>>100429829
There is plenty of fighting in the other thread that's going to auto sage soon. Enjoy the calm before it's migrated to here.
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>>100429549
>not wanting loli farts
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The best Meguca is obviously Homura, because she did nothing wrong!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu98k5vVP-Y
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name a fanbase worse than madoka
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>>100430842
You're favorite anime
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>>100430789
>did nothing wrong
>ai yo
>smug as fuck
Sounds like best girl to me.
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>>100430789
Yes, she did. I hope she gets tentacle raped for eternity.
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>>100430842
Your favorite anime's fanbase.
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>>100430842
Every.
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>>100430842
you're moms fanbase
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When are the blurays for movie 3? I can't find any news and I don't want to watch a camrip.
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>>100431291
Wiki.
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>>100431291
April 2nd
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>>100429465
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>>100431407
Stop misusing the name feature. Also, don't spoonfeed.
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>>100431530

>I only want to talk to the same 10 people ever.

I'll leave.
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>>100431660
Good.
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>>100431291
2 April
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>>100430842
I can't.
Madoka is one of my favourite anime, but goddamn the fanbase here on /a/ is pure cancer.
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>>100431291
Homura betrays everyone and becomes a demon

Madokami gets trapped

The franchise is worthless now
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This looks like a pretty civil thread for a change.
I jinxed it.
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>>100431869
Because no one called Sayaka out on her defining attribute yet.
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>>100431869
>metafags shitposting about fanbases
>good
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>>100432043
I never said good anon, I said civil.
Besides those were only a few people.
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>>100432184
Homura the coolest.
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>>100425529
>disgusting low res pic that isn't even 100kb

End yourself.
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>>100432379
>>100429984
You too.
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Wait, what?
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Nagisa is cuter than Madoka.
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mami a shit
she's the boring stereotypical ojou-sama with big tits
she has no personality and was only in for like three episodes, but since she has tits, everyone likes her
best meguca is kyoko, obviously
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>>100432647
Pedofag
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>>100432732
>thinking an objectively cute girl makes you a pedo
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>>100432184
>five-seven
Expensive, but then again it's not like she'll be paying for it.
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>>100432638
>>100432254
>>100432234
>>100432184
>>100431713
>>100431530
>>100431386
>>100430880
>>100430789
Homura ruined everything. Why is she even counted in "best meguca" anymore!
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>>100430842
You're waifu's fanbase.
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>>100432831
Homura did nothing wrong!
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>>100433025
Yes she did
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>>100432987
Translations when?
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>>100433080
No, she didn't.
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>>100433073
REPRODUCTION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY
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>>100433169
The power of /u/.
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>>100431530
Don't make me sic god on you....though you also have a god. I guess we're at a impasse here.
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>>100433322
My love for penises however is a lot stronger.
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>>100433025
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>>100433357
You can't stop me from abusing the naming system.
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>>100433583
Disregard that, I suck cocks. Also, Haruhi a shit and I'm glad her VA fucked all those men.
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>>100433527
that looks like two v's instead of a w
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>>100433692
Haruhi is actually a shit. Kyon is cool though.
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>>100433140
Yes she did
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>>100433999
No, she didn't.
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>>100434040
Yes, she didn't.
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>>100434228
duck season
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>>100434299
potato
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What is with the lack of best meguca?
Step it up guys
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>>100430789
Why are glasses so ugly on 2D girls
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If you guys want to dump images of Homura so badly, why don't you help improve her thread on /c/?
>>>/c/2152519
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>>100434818
You're right
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>>100435398
cheese a shit
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>>100435714
I ain't far from slappin' your shit.
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Here's the one part of the finale I don't get.

How did Madoka beat the witch from her own soul gem?
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>>100436806
Madoka's wish was powerful enough for her to create a paradox.
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>>100436231
FTFY
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>>100436806
She wished to destroy all witches, her witch is no exception
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Meduka is cool
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I love how flat Madoka and Homura are. I hope they stay flat through out adulthood.
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>>100438145
>adulthood.
Like that's even a relevant concept to them, they're both immortal divine beings.
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EAT CAKE ERRYDAY
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>>100438234
I want to do lewd things to them, but I respect their feelings (well Homura's) toward each other.
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>>100438374
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>>100430842
Infinite Stratos
SAO
Yuru Yuri
Bleach
Naruto
Yuyushiki
Lucky Star
Idolmaster
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>>100438145
The only two who aren't flat is Sayaka and Mami. Kyoko, Homu, Madoka and Nagisa got nothing.
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>>100438449
>Idolmaster
A lot of people overlook that one because they stick to their generals. But yeah, it's pretty bad in those threads.
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>>100438473
Kyouko actually has noticeable breasts, you just can't see them in that sweatshirt.
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>>100438630
I want to flick Kyouko's nipples with my tongue
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>>100438696
Thanks for sharing.
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why is Homura such a star
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>>100433169
it worked this way apparently: >>100429932
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>>100438696
Enjoy tasting chip crumbs and old sweat
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>>100438806
Homura is the cutest little thing I would never want to meet in an alleyway on a moonless night.
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This reminds me, they fucked up by giving Homura tits in Rebelllion.
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>>100439083
Well it was her own barrier, so maybe she subconsciously wanted bigger breasts.
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Anybody got any good meguca iphone backgrounds?
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>>100438719
I want to smell the inside of Madoka's shoes.
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>>100439083
What breasts?
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>>100439083
They're still pretty small, she's at least a bit older, and she controlled reality with her mind anyway.
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>>100439591
In Rebellion, she has noticeably larger breasts.
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>>100440277
They giving her bigger breasts because that's what sells, the same reason they giving her that fucking outfit, that's not really Homu.
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>>100440492
>that's what sells
There's no doubt that's part of the reason for her new dress. But at least it makes sense given what Homura represents now.
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Have you ordered your BD yet?
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>>100441216
I don't have the money for that shit
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>>100441216
Waiting for aniplex usa.
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Breast size is probably the most inconsistent thing in character design across all anime, especially since it can change in appearance with different outfits.
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>>100441586
Shaft doesn't have a very good track record with that sort of thing.
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>>100441146
No, not really, that outfit don't go well with the character of Homu at all, they could give her something more classy and that fits her character more, like a gala dress type of thing or something like the dress she used in the end of the manga.
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>>100432638
>not superior rebellion henshin
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>>100441770
Well, she only "wore" it in that cosmic domain beyond space and time.
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>>100441910
>superior
No.
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>>100441686
lol, look how envious Sayaka seems to be of Mami's mamis
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>>100441770
Being a villain doesn't fit her character either, but she's going for it anyway/
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>>100441991
>implying time ballet isn't the best henshin (tied with rebellion!kyoko) with best henshin music
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>>100441216
Yes, I told the uploader to make it snappy on April 2
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>>100441216
No because I'm poor and I don't have a BD player.
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>>100442097
If you have shit taste, sure.
Mami still has the best henshin.
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>>100442097
>implying breakdancing isn't best everything
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>>100442397
mah nigga surely

but for rebellion kyoko probably takes the cake
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>$70 for 4 episodes

Where can I get BDs of this show without being ripped off?
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>>100441554
Good luck
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>>100442663
Welcome to anime.
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>>100442663
The internet, for free?
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>>100442663
That sounds cheaper than the average anime BD, which is like $60 for 2 or 3 episodes.
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Madoka a lewd
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>>100441554
Waiting for what? The JP release has English subs and more dollar dollar goes to the creators.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQZ0FL20e3Q
Madoka has no moves apparently.

Also, these two feel really innocent together.
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>>100442663
do what you want cuz a pirate is free...
yo ho ho ho a pirate's life for me
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>>100442059
She's not really a villain if you look at it by normal definition, she forcibly removed them from their world....into a one that isn't full of hope and despair, she rid them of their memories.....which are full of sadness and despair. I heard people say she's more of a lovecraftian entity now. Besides, Homura was never a good person from the start. She was almost like a antihero, a villain isn't so far from that.
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>>100442865
What? She's teaching you how to wear a ring on your index finger. What could possibly be lewd about that?
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>>100442720
Why is this ok with anyone? Are they that much in japan?
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>>100442663
>Where can I get BDs of this show without being ripped off?

you don't
buy figurines and artbooks instead
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>>100442984
Hope and despair....I don't know how I wrote that instead of sadness and despair.
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>>100442865
She's only lewd with HomuHomu.
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>>100443091
>without being ripped off
>buy figurines and artbooks instead
>buy figurines
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>>100443143
Well atleast she's not riding the persona mara....that would've been 3lewd5me
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>>100442947
What kind of game do you think Madoka would be good at?
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>>100443199
Go back to /soc/
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>>100442947
>making Madoka cry
UNFORGIVABLE

That was pretty cute though.
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Which one does anal?
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>>100442947
Ultra Gay
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>>100443266
Dress up games.
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>>100442947
Madoka acts the most innocent, and Kyouko actually is the most innocent.
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>>100443266
Nothing, she's only good at sacrificing herself.
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>>100443266
puzzle games and oddly enough shooters
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>>100443199
it's a much better value than paying for a pressed Bluray disc and a cardboard envelope

>>100442947
localization when? But then again, it doesn't look like a tough game to read off from a translated script
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>>100443465
Are you calling Madoka impure, faggot?
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>>100443651
A little bit.
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>>100443685
Better version
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>>100443473
But you can have multiple lives in games. Madoka would be the one to sacrifice herself to take an attack and save her teammates.

>>100443475
>oddly enough

She uses a bow, that's to be expected. Maybe her and Homura can play an arcade/rail shooter together.
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>>100443734
By the nine divines, what happened to her face?
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>>100443782
>She uses a bow, that's to be expected.
Isn't that just using her enhanced magical girl reflexes to be good at games? That's cheating.
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>>100442699
They did the first two movies. I see no reason why they won't do Rebellion too.
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>>100443794
>9
Talos worshiping scum.
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>>100443840
Is not that what Kyouko do? She even says it in the video "This should be easy for magical girls".
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>>100443962
It's to be expected, Kyouko has no morals.
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>>100443917
imperial trash
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>>100443840
Then I suppose if she were to do it without any enhancement, it's just puzzle games. Maybe simulators too.

>>100443962
>become a magical girl
>acquire sweet dance moves

It worked for Sayaka.
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>>100443413
I wish that more people would show Kyouko how she really is and not that shit of LOL SHE SO ALPHA.
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>>100433169

>>100429932
>Red+Blue=Purple

>>100433073
>Black+Pink=Purple

Maximum pleb, learn multiplication.
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>>100444283
Goddammit, moot.
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>>100444283
Well, apparently her facade was really effective because like half of /a/ fell for it.

Also I assume that wasn't the image you intended to post.
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>>100433527
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>>100444420
Here the imagen.
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>>100444356
By that logic
>Pink + Blue = ?
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>>100444389
A-Anon, stop.
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>>100444503
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>>100444576
This won't end well.
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>>100444836
>That homura
Breaks my heart, anon.
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>>100444389
What is it about saliva that instantly upgrades Yuri tenfold?
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>>100444836
Cute.
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>>100445302
>>100444836
Source, please?
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>>100445855
Stop being so short meduka
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>>100445972
HELL YEAH SEALDOKA!
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>>100445855
>I love you madoka
>April fools
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>>100446051
I never actually realized these images were part of a big set until I looked it up just now

Fun stuff
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>>100446580
>euehihi
Why does Madoka have such a demonic laugh?
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>>100446696
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I need rebellion henshin gifs
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>>100446808
>>100446696
At least it's not like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdipFwRlNnY
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>>100446696
Oh man, I wish I had saved the video with Madoka laugh, you know the one.
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>>100447009
Expect higher quality gifs of them after April 2nd.
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>>100446580
Is this a Homunyan thread?
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>>100447294
but I'm not homura I can't do anything about time
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>>100424319
Why does the character all look so ugly? They looked totally deformed...
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>>100447399
Stop being so narrow-minded anon.
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>>100447473
Just look how huge their heads are.
The character in SnK look way better.
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>>100447398
Patience is a virtue.
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>>100447555
Wide is love
Wide is life
Embrace the wide
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>>100447555
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>>100447555
Frankly, bait of this level is insulting.
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>>100447687
I want to pleasure NekoHomu orally.
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>>100447771
I think Homunyan is cuter, but yes.
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Where can I find those 2 minutes Madoka laugh that is used to be attached to one of Madoka image? I wonder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwjQpkGcUX4
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>>100447929
That sounds much better, yes.
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>>100442904
The AniplexUSA preorder bonus for the first movies was a translation of the booklet.
http://madokamagicausa.com/movie.php
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>>100447771
Are you Madoka? Only Madoka can give pleasure to Homu.
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>there will never be another anime as epic as Madoka
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>>100448448
>epic
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>>100448297
>when artists with cute styles go lewd
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>>100448448
Watch more anime
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The other megucas can go ahead and be lewd if they want. Homura does beautiful dresses the best.
Pragmatic elegance.
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>>100450582
pumpkin a shit
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>>100450582
See, that would have been way better for Akuma but without so much frills and tighter.
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Does anyone have that crudely made comic where Urobuchi or Shinbo makes Ume sensei cry?
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>there are people in this thread who don't think Madoka is anime of the decade
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Guys, what if every meguca fused into one
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>>100450582
I would love to die by Homura's bullet. Preferably I bleed out slowly so I can watch and fap her as she mows down the rest of my squad.
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>>100451001
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Imagine a teenage girl version of Captain Planet.
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>>100450832
I have this.
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>>100450801
Yeah but that dress doesn't have the celestial goddess feel.
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>>100450655

When is someone gonna typeset these?
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>>100450801
I think something lewd symbolizes love a little better.
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>>100451113
Now that is epic.
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>>100451741
Get me a script and I'll get you some typeset.
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>>100451622
Her indecent crow-outfit doesn't have that feeling either.

>>100451745
See, this is also good.
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>>100451113
>fusing meguca without including Mami's drills
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>>100451907
Yeah it does. It makes her look like a devil.
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>>100451961
Better?
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>>100452013
This somehow looks worse.
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>>100451994
A lewd devil.
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>>100451994
No, it makes her look like a slut.
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>>100452065
Well that's all I got buddy
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>>100452105
But she only showed it in front of Kyubey.
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>>100452105
You're wrong. She looks like a devil.
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>>100452013
It's a lot better but I feel it focuses too heavily on Mami and Homura and not enough Madoka and Sayaka. Did you draw this?
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>>100452294
Of course not, that's from some japanese artist like two years ago
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>>100452161
She doesn't looks like a imposing demon who rules over other, she just look like a shitty succubus.
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>>100452294
No, but I did.
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>>100452105
What a bigoted use of that word. If a girl who has been in love with the same person for over a decade (I'll bet you haven't even been that faithful to your waifu) wants to look pretty for that person, she damn well has that right.
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>>100452397
Well how else should the devil dress?
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>>100452397
Well your opinion is stupid and I'm glad you're in the minority.
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>>100452397
Eh, depends on the artist.
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>>100452556
No, that's just the background.
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>>100452363
Ah, maybe someone in a draw thread can improve on this idea then.
>>100452425
Am I being tricked?
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>>100452397
Her dress looks like a broken heart

SYMBOLIIIIIIIISM
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>>100452624
>implying her dress doesn't look different depending on who draws it
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>>100452624
Her dress isn't for you, and you're free to leave if you don't want to see it.
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>>100452794
Even I felt like a blushing maiden when I saw this one.
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>>100452794
You're late.
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>>100452874
>>100452808
>>100452794
>>100452780
I want to do lewd things to HomuHomu.
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>>100450870
I'll admit that it got me.

Never thought I'd be this bitter about an ending. What's worse is that for all extent and purposes I should feel happy for what Homura did, I don't deny everyone is happier including Madoka. Yet here I am still hoping any potential sequel ruins Homura's world, not in spite of her but just because something feels off about Rebellions ending.
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>>100452915
I know.

>>100453063
pls don't sexualize the megucas
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>>100452538
Something like these, really long straight dresses
>>100450582
>>100450655
>>100451745

>>100452497
Except that she wouldn't wear something so revealing, she would wear something more conservative but also sexy like her magical girl outfit.
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>>100453205
I'll be gentle.
Only gentle rubbing.
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>>100453238
>Except that she wouldn't wear something so revealing, she would wear something more conservative but also sexy like her magical girl outfit.

To be fair, she comes to people with her physical avatar which is just Homura dressed like she usually does. There's nobody to really see her in that skimpy devil outfit except maybe Madokami.
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>>100453238
The dress fits her latest stage of development just fine. Stop crying because your head canon conservative reserved Homura doesn't exist.
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>>100453063
No one is allowed to do lewd things to Homu because she is not worthy of anyone's love. She is a foolish, cowardly, cold-hearted girl who only corrupts everything she touches. Everyone should just stay away from her.
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>>100453497
homu pls stop posting
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>>100453497
But I love Homu.
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>>100453497
But I love her anyway.
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>>100453497
>this is what Homuras actually believe
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>>100453497
Homu pls stop hating your self ;_;
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>>100453497
>Homura is posting on /a/
Even more autistic than we'd feared.
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>>100453714
What else is she going to do in the new world, hang out with Madoka? Good one.
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>>100453606
>Thinking of Homura makes me happy.
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>>100453497
>cold-hearted
>willing to sacrifice everything for Madoka over and over
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>>100453752
>hang out with Madoka
Yes. Homura already tried to reconcile with Madoka at the end of Rebellion. I think it's safe to assume she will keep trying.
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Why does everyone say that Homura loves Madoka in a sexual/romantic way? Her love for Madoka is strictly platonic, and can even be said to be beyond what a sexual love can offer.
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>>100453984
Madoka's mom will point out that Homura is her secret admirer.
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>>100453471
>The dress fits her latest stage of development just fine.
But it doesn't, at all, she doesn't receive an increase in confidence about her physical appearance, she also is proud of what she did but at the same time ashamed and want to hide what she is now, wear such a revealing outfit doesn't make sense, she would wear an outfit that hides her body and herself like the funebre outfit, and even if they wanted to give the feeling that Homura is evil now they didn't have to give her such a revealing outfit , that outfit only exists as sex appeal to sell more.
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>>100453856
Plus, Homura didn't need to do anything good for the other girls. She could have left Mami alone, Nagisa alone when she has to deal with her mother dying, Sayaka dead since she's the most dangerous to her plans, and Kyoko alone. But instead she puts them all in a position where they'll be most happy.
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>>100454049
BECAUSE WE LIKE YURI OKAY
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>>100454075
Dude, all that stuff was accidental side-effects of what she did for Madoka. She didn't even expect Sayaka and Nagisa to be revived, they just happened to be nearby.
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>>100454049
You can't really prove it either way, and what kind of love it is is kind of beside the point. The point is, she loves Madoka. A lot.
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>>100454065
>she doesn't receive an increase in confidence about her physical appearance,
I don't know what movie you watched, but she looks pretty smug and confident in Rebellion.
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>>100454051
What parent pushes for their child to be homosexual and in a sterile relationship that will never give genetic grandchildren? The same kind that are fine sending them off into a hurricane I guess.
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>>100453984
I doubt it personally. That wasn't much of an attempt at reconciliation, she was just sort of asking what Madoka thought about what Homura did in a roundabout way. Even though Madoka basically said that she favors the old order, Homura doesn't care.
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>>100454146
What's the evidence for this? I'm not doubting you because more often than not Homura doesn't give a shit about the other girls and thinks in terms of "I shouldn't kill x because Madoka wouldn't like it"
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>>100454207
About what she's doing, not her appearance.
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>>100454207
The only emotion I see is discontent
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>>100454208
Junko is understanding, she knows that love is more important than that stuff.
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>>100446051
>>100446342

I fucking love Sealdoka!
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>>100454200
Depending on what kind of love you are talking about, it changes the motivations for Homura doing what she did as well as her relationship with Madoka. This is where the English language fails because we only have one word for love.

What people are talking about the love that Homura has for Madoka can be described as "eros" while the love that I think Homura is trying to convery is one of "agape"
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>>100454269
When does Homura ever mention what she thinks of her outward appearance? Maybe I should rewatch it.
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>>100454262
The stuff she said when she was talking to Sayaka at the end, "you've become unable to return to where you belong" or whatever.
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>>100454312
>Sealdoka likes Homura-chan the most

inaccurate
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>>100453856
She sees herself as a cold-hearted person.
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>>100454368
Who died and made you king of sealdokas
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>>100454208
She raised literally the only human to ever do a good deed that didn't get offset by an equal amount of despair. So I think she did alright.
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>>100454393
Shinbo.
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>>100454340
It's 'Ai' rather than 'Koi'.
This kind of love.
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>>100454428
Homura's despair made it possible.
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>>100454208
At least Madoka has living parents who care about her.

>>100454428
What if the shitload of despair was redistributed to Homura?
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>>100454340
>it changes the motivations for Homura doing what she did
Does it? She loves Madoka, and she expresses her love by trying to protect Madoka at all costs. That doesn't really changed if she has sexual/romantic feelings towards Madoka, especially because as we've seen from our look at her subconscious in Rebellion, she would probably keep those feelings suppressed at this point due to her own feelings of unworthiness anyway.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Jk8b65uns
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>>100454342
She never says anything about her appearance, but we know what she thinks about herself, why she would hate herself for being so horrible person but love her body?
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>>100454625
oh jesus
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>>100454548
A lot of things made it possible, but it's only because Madoka is who she is that she came up with such a wish and the resolve to make it.

Madoka is a good girl.
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>>100454548
>>100454563
I never minded that theory.
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>>100454655
There's no correlation between what one thinks of themselves as a person and what one thinks of their body their body. It's very possible for someone to think they're a terrible person, but also think they're attractive. There's no real backing to the assumption that Homura thinks little of her body, especially considering the evidence against it.
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>>100454600
>That doesn't really changed if she has sexual/romantic feelings towards Madoka, especially because as we've seen from our look at her subconscious in Rebellion, she would probably keep those feelings suppressed at this point due to her own feelings of unworthiness anyway.

This is how I've felt which helped me care less about that particular question. Though if the writers ever had Madoka hold eros feelings for Homura that's where i'd draw the line and feel the series has actually pandered to the lowest denominator.

For the record, I'm fine with the fanart I have tons of it saved here. I'm just committed to the idea that nothing has shown Madoka having those kinds of feelings other than those psp games that pander to all the fandoms fantasies.
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>>100454849
If anything becoming a Magical girl probably strengthened her self-image in terms of attractiveness. Before then she was this hospitalized weakling who couldn't even sprint without tiring out.
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>>100442953
sAYAka kYOUKO OTP
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>>100454625
I wasn't planning on crying today.
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>>100454049
Most people I've seen think it is just platonic but that can develop rapidly in romantic once they are together.
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>>100454978
She knows what she's got
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>>100454744
If only Madoka was more assertive with her friends, she wouldn't have had a rebellion on her record.
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>>100454870
Madoka is the Eternal Feminine. No matter what happens, she will always be there to take Homura's hand.
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>>100454547
I don't know Japanese, can you tell me what the difference between "ai" and "koi" is? I'm currently looking it up but if you have a more definitive explanation I'd like to see it.

>>100454600
It does. The usage of "agape" and "eros" is from traditional Christian theology, where the Greek NT scriptures use several of the Greek words for love that properly reflect the relationships that Jesus had with His disciples, the people, and God the Father. (this is one of the flaws of our language, all those words for love get translated as one word, so the nuance between agape, eros, and philia gets lost.)

Using this framework, we can see how Homura's application of love can be properly conceptualized. Homura has not really expressed any sexual desire or close skinship, at least in the original series. Even in her monologues, she has not given hint of wanting Madoka's body or longing for a carnal relationship. She valued Madoka as a person and because of her friendship. Homura has a low self esteem because of her illness. She felt really grateful to Madoka that she would befriend someone so "worthless" (in Homura's mind). That would be a "philia" type love, friendship. Once she experienced the timeline where Madoka asked her to prevent her from contracting, Homura became more serious, and transitioned to "agape", a love of sacrifice. She was willing to give up everything to save Madoka, time and again, becoming how she was throughout the anime series. cont'd
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>>100454849
>especially considering the evidence against it.
And what evidence is that? There is much more evidence that she hates herself that she loves herself.
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>>100454978
Agreed. There's definitely a reason she decided to wear pantyhose, forgo the glasses, and undo her braids.
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>>100455183
Continuation

At the end, she could accept, bitterly, that Madoka had made a wish for everyone. But in Rebellion, we saw that Homura was not really happy, and when she talked to Madoka in the lily field, she made up her mind to save her. This is where the agape became corrupted. It is still a form of love, agape, but the focus became more self-centered, since she took the opinion of a Madoka that was ignorant of experience that the LoC Madoka had already gone through and made her choice with said experience. Homura DOES love Madoka, as she declared "AI YO", but that love no longer is pure, but is stained by Homura's desire to have Madoka to herself, in a way
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>>100455047
Platonic is suppose to be a transcendence of romantic feelings.

I'm all aboard Madoka feelings being Platonic all this time, Homura I think took a turn into romantic probably around the end of Rebellion.
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>>100455195
Yes, to try to pretend to be "cool and strong" in front of Madoka.
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>>100455186
Why would she wear a dress like that if she wasn't comfortable revealing her skin? She seemed quite comfortable in it too.
>There is much more evidence that she hates herself that she loves herself.
Keep in mind the difference between loving oneself and loving ones body.
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>>100455253
>earring incorrectly designed

dropped
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>>100454625
Neat.
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>>100455280
>Platonic is suppose to be a transcendence of romantic feelings.
No? Platonic love is just a love that is not sexual.
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>>100455386
Why is her whole face covered in blood? That looks like shit.
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>>100455447
Madoka was on her period.
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>>100455386
That quote reminds me, so with Rebellion now changing things up how do you think Bowmura felt during the time between Sayaka dying in the new universe and Homura getting placed in the Incubator barrier?

Considering how Homura's wings were pink in one scene and the desert one they were black and witch-like I would say that she started out meaning what she said and fighting to protect the world for Madoka's sake. Then the doubt sets in and the lonliness, probably Mami and Kyoko split up after Sayaka dies leaving Homura even more alone finally leading up to her suicide battle in the desert where the black wings spawn out. She beats the wraiths and is near total corruption when the Incubators hatch their scheme.
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>>100455243
>Homura's desire to have Madoka to herself,
It's not about owning Madoka. It's about making her happy.
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>>100455183
Isn't it a bit restrictive using only those specific ancient Greek concepts of love, though? Personally I think it's possible to have "romantic" feelings for someone, the way you feel for someone you'd want to marry and spend the rest of your life with, without them necessarily being sexual. She loves Madoka far more than one ever would a friend, but that doesn't have to mean she lusts after her.
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>>100455612
That smile she gave right before that battle kinda makes me think this was her plan. She'd either be with Madoka again or die and go to Yuri Valhalla, and either one would be fine with her.

>>100455772
I don't think Homura is that pure in her motives.
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>>100455909
Why not? Both her actions and words support the idea that they are that pure.
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>>100455772
Is about both, really, it's just that Homura isn't honest with the part of wanting to having Madoka to herself for her self-hatred.
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Reminder that Homura is not the final boss and is merely a step in showing off the true nature of the Law of Cycles as a monsterous and destructive entity that collects the souls of magical girls, like a super, eternal Walpurgis. The Law of Cycles is not Madoka herself but an entity born from her wish that originally absorbed her. Madoka's hope was powerful enough to control it, but now that Homura was able to separate her from it the Cycle will show its true nature soon enough, especially if Kyubey interferes.
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>>100455954
Except when she grabbed Madoka and was like "I'm never letting you go again".
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>>100455909
Homura isn't that complicated, what she says is what she really feels, that's why Sayaka and almost anyone can tell when she is lying.
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>>100455772
You can't truly make one happy when the person you are trying to make happy is restricted of choice. Homura sacrificed almost everything for Madoka, and Madoka also sacrificed almost everything, not just for Homura but for every magical girl. But Homura can't accept this so she basically cancels out Madoka's wish. Homura indeed loves Madoka, but that love has turned from selfless to selfish. Love means you accept, and Homura can't accept what Madoka did. Hence, Rebellion.

>>100455878
Yes but it gives a neater and clearer framework to study Homura's love from than simply using "love" and trying to piece together what kind of "love" it is.

How would you define "romantic" love? Although I do agree on Homura's love being nonsexual.
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>>100456014
She also says that she wants to create a world where Madoka is happy. And that is exactly what she does.
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>>100455954
Her actions suggest that she just wants to make Madoka happy, the symbolism suggest that she just wants to be with Madoka.
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>>100456115
>but that love has turned from selfless to selfish.
There's nothing selfish about a willingness to face an eternity of suffering and despair to save someone. There is also nothing selfish about creating a world solely with the intent of making another person happy.
>Love means you accept,
Not even most of the time.
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>>100456115
>Homura can't accept this so she basically cancels out Madoka's wish

The problem is as far as the audience knows at the end of Rebellion, Madoka's wish is still in effect even without Madoka doing it herself.

I think this is what upset me most about the ending, Homura has her cake and eats it. We're not shown any sign that something bad can happen for the choice she made other than Sayaka getting upset and Madokami trying to bond with Madoka again.
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>>100456292
Well there's also the fact that Homura's psyche is a shattered ruin and she hates herself and everything now. I'd classify that as "bad".
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>>100456392
And finished.
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>>100456348
She seems stable enough to appreciate her own work and if she hated everything then the world she created certainly doesn't depict that hatred.

Besides that problem is anti-climactic because we know Homura's fears of Madoka hating her will never fucking happen.
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>>100456001
Also, there is actual evidence for this from the witch booklet and Sayaka's dialogue in Homura's world. According to the booklet, all of Madoka's witches broke off from the cycle, like they were absorbed by it rather than acting as Madoka's angels. Sayaka and Nagisa mention they are former magical girls that embody both hope and despair equally, but never mention anything other than that. We know nothing about the Law of Cycles other than that it exists. We know more about Akuma Homura and what she can do than what Madoka can, which is suspicious if she's supposed to be a villain.

In addition, Madoka attempting to become a goddess after Homura has the Law of Cycles bound and gagged inside her tenga implies that Ultimate Madoka and the Law of Cycles are not the same thing.
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>>100456444
Thanks. MadoHomu can be really cute.
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>>100456284
It's selfish because she's taking Madoka's choice and her autonomy to execute her wish out of her hands. Homura can't accept that Madoka is now a concept, unable to live a human life with her, even though Madoka herself is content with her choice. Homura tries to undo Madoka's wish, not because Madoka genuinely regretted it, but because Homura took it that way.

Making a world to make a person happy isn't selfish, the problem is that you are giving them a world that YOU think will make them happy, disregarding their own choices and their own happiness to do so.

We're talking about conceptual love. Since I borrowed theological concepts before, this is a nice little quote to go along with my argument

>Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

>>100456292
We don't know yet since there is no scene of an MG turning witch. Quite possibly since Madoka wished her her personally to kill all the witches, and her personality component is separated from the rest of herself, the LoC can't operate without the personality component (the Will).
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>>100456001
That actually doesn't seem like a bad idea. It sounds much more interesting than Homura going full yandere which is what I think will happen in the next movie.
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>>100456115
Defining romantic love without mentioning sexual love is difficult, but as I said, it's the kind of love you feel towards a spouse. Wanting to stay by that person's side, being happy just to see them smile...all that mushy stuff. I don't think those sort of feelings are necessarily inseparable from sexual attraction.
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Sayaka: Hm~m, you’re soft and smell good. Phew... calms me down.
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Sayaka: Hm~? What~?
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>Rebellion raws still aren't released
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>>100456480
She's keeping the world together for Madoka's sake, just like the hope of saving Madoka was all that kept her putting one foot in front of the other ever since timeline 3. That doesn't necessarily mean she's stable. And what if something happens that puts Madoka outside Homura's ability to "save" again? She'd utterly fall apart.
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>>100456679
Hmm...

Can an asexual person exhibit romantic love towards someone? And if this love can be exhibited, why can't it be simply be classified as "platonic"?
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>>100456001
>>100456640

I would expect the ending to be Madoka convincing Homura to let her rejoin with the Law of Cycles rather than them teaming up and destroying it. That or the Law of Cycles defeats Homura and plans on obliterating her/sending her to Hell when Madoka agrees to bond with the Law of Cycles again to save Homura. Once she's merged together then I would expect a dualistic rule of the universe between Homura and Madoka as the "happy end".
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>>100456248
>Her actions suggest that she just wants to make Madoka happy, the symbolism suggest that she just wants to be with Madoka.

This. Also, Homura didn't see Madokami as the "real Madoka", and/or she was unwilling to share Madoka with all the other magical girls of history.
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>>100456783
>And what if something happens that puts Madoka outside Homura's ability to "save" again? She'd utterly fall apart.

This I do agree with, if somehow she lacked the power to save Madoka from some fate and now her soul was utterly gone from the universe then I suspect either Homura would destroy the universe herself or abandon it to be alone for eternity in mourning like a deistic god.
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>>100456620
>unable to live a human life with her
Homura's goal in the original series was to protect Madoka. If this meant that Madoka would hate Homura, or that the two of them would be unable to sustain a friendship, that was okay. Homura has always shown a willingness to disregard herself for Madoka. In Rebellion however, along with the aforementioned goal, the goal of making Madoka happy materialized itself.
>the problem is that you are giving them a world that YOU think will make them happy,
And the reason Homura thinks that this is what Madoka wants is because this is what Madoka tells her. This idea didn't spring into Homura's head on it's own.

Homura's motivations can not be narrowed down into purely selfish or purely selfless however.
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>>100456689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2h6-t7HPs8

It's much more gay when you hear her say it.
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>>100457004
At least Homura and Kyouko could make a good couple.

Or Homura would destroy the universe in a jealous rage.
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>>100456938
>And the reason Homura thinks that this is what Madoka wants is because this is what Madoka tells her. This idea didn't spring into Homura's head on it's own.

That's a Madoka who has zero idea of true suffering all magical girls face in reality and I'm pretty sure Homura doesn't even mention that Madoka "goes away" for the sake of all of humanity.

Homura's view on that is extremely biased, which makes it all the more worse when she decides to go against the enlightened Madoka's decision and decide what will make her happy.
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>>100456799
>Can an asexual person exhibit romantic love towards someone? And if this love can be exhibited, why can't it be simply be classified as "platonic"?

The modern (not the original!) definition of "platonic love" is basically non-sexual, non-romantic love. Also generally not for family, either.
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>>100456799
I know, it's a tricky question with no real satisfactory answer. Asexuality is barely an accepted "thing" in psychology anyway, but a lot of people do think that such people are capable of having purely romantic feelings. There's a whole bunch of stuff on the internet about this, of course, with no real consensus. Personally I see romantic feelings as definitely different from platonic ones, since there are feelings stronger than what you'd ever feel for your friends that don't involve sex.
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>>100457095
This is redundant. Homura, like anyone who believes in something, is acting because they think they know better. It's why Mami tried to murder everyone, for example. It's needless to say that they are biased.
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>>100456938
Nice mate, I agree .
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>>100456938
Who has the right or the knowledge to determine how to make Madoka happy- Homura or Madoka herself? Homura can never know what Madoka feels or how Madoka's experiences have shaped her. The Madoka in Homura's soul gem and the Madoka who made the wish in ep. 12 are the "same Madoka", but their different experiences have led them to different conclusions. The Madoka that made the wish was happy she could. But that was not agreeable with Homura, so when she talked with a Madoka who expressed a desire to live amongst her loved ones, sans experience that the wish-making Madoka had, Homura seized the chance as that desire was in accord with her own. But it wasn't something Homura was willing to leave in Madoka's hands, because ultimately what Homura thinks would make Madoka happy has trumped Madoka's own version of what would make herself happy.

Again, the Madoka that told her that was lacking the experiences that the wish-making Madoka had gone through. I can almost guarantee if the Madoka of Rebellion had gone through the events of the TV series, she would have done the same wish over again.

>Homura's motivations can not be narrowed down into purely selfish or purely selfless however.

I agree but at the same time if we took the time to write everything down, we could end up with pages of analysis and conjectures. So it's best to try to simplify a bit, no?
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>>100457071
Madoka an friendslut, Kyouko is best option.
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>>100456938
>Homura's motivations can not be narrowed down into purely selfish or purely selfless however.

I think the best description for Homura's motivations and actions is "one-sided". She completely disregarded Madoka's own wishes and feelings, at least in the present, and forced her own desires on the entirety of reality. Her love for Madoka is also one-sided, at least in the situation at the end of the movie - and the irony is that it's likely that Madoka was going to return her feelings if Homura just let Madoka take her away.
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>>100457273
Dammit, why do artists have to post good stuff on their stupid twitters and not on pixiv?
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>>100457131
I had just read that, but if we're using modern definitions, my questions/point still stands, right? r-right?

>>100457222
I agree on the fact that there should be a definition of love that is beyond friendship but not quite lovers.
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>>100457273
It can't be helped.
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>>100456620
>Quite possibly since Madoka wished her her personally to kill all the witches, and her personality component is separated from the rest of herself, the LoC can't operate without the personality component (the Will).
I really don't think that's the case, her wish in theory should be able to keep running even if Madokami don't have a will because of how Madoka make her wish it only requires that the action was done in person, however I think that the Law of Cycles is broken and only running at its most basic concept that is erase witches, if was the will of Madoka who brought the girls true salvation and a chance to make passes with themselves in Yuri Valhalla.
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>>100457386
Because they're stupid artists that hate their own art, or they are super slow in uploading, or I don't know.
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>>100457231
I wouldn't call it redundant, there is a difference between someone who thinks they know better and it's based on Truth and someone who thinks they know better who are living under delusion.

Homura is the second, choosing to completely ignore the ep. 12 Madoka's words for a Madoka who knows nothing of true suffering. It's like saying you want enlightenment from Prince Siddhartha who never left his palace rather than from when he became the Buddha.
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>>100457273
At the very least, Homura needs a friend.
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>>100457399
>I had just read that, but if we're using modern definitions, my questions/point still stands, right? r-right?

I think romantic love can't be platonic even if it is asexual. For instance, a romantic, nonsexual love could lead to feelings of jealousy, but platonic love usually wouldn't.
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>>100457445
If we split Ultimate Madoka into its components, you have the "Will", which can be the Madoka you see in Homura's new world, and the "Power". the actual ability to end witches. The Power cannot function without the Will to guide it. I think of it like a mecha. You can have a stupidly powerful mech like Demonbane, but with no pilot, it's just a hunk of metal. In the same way, if the Will cannot act out the "end all witches", then the Power just does nothing. Since the one who made the wish was Madoka, and currently, Madoka the "Will" is prisoner, it cannot execute the wish.
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>>100457363
Well yeah Homu knows that, she believes that she isn't worthy to be with Madoka, but wants her to give her a normal human life.
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>>100457585
Ah, ok. Thanks for clarifying. I might need to continue doing research on this aspect of love. Thanks.
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>>100457528
No she doesn't, she doesn't need anyone, go away
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>>100457619
>Well yeah Homu knows that, she believes that she isn't worthy to be with Madoka, but wants her to give her a normal human life.

Yup. But at the same time, Homura can't bear to isolate herself from Madoka and will try to be her friend, and may have even sent Madoka to America to make getting close to her easier.

Homura's ultimate dilemma: what does she do if human Madoka now falls for her?
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>>100457686
Homu pls.
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>>100457528
Nah, friends are overrated. They're so much work.
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>>100457585
reminder that platonic love is deeply romantic in the philosophical definition
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>>100457417

That top right frame is just asking for an edit

>Sealdoka:Weehee!
>Homu:NO you don't understand!
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>>100457606
You're assuming that a wish requires a will to be fulfilled, I don't think that's the case, look at the example of Kyouko, her wish was still in effect even when she and her father rejected the wish, the same can be said about Madokami, the wish can continue in effect even if the will to fulfill is not there or can continue in effect as a golem following simple instructions "erase all witches from existence with my own hands"?
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>>100457884
That's why Homura needs a friend who's capable of taking care of herself, unlike the constant dying and self-sacrificing of Madoka.
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>>100458167
Since Madoka wished for her personally to end the witches, there needs to be a will (Madoka herself) to complete this wish. When they showed her wish being executed, there were manifestations of Madoka (her will) sent to each MG to take them before they go witch. When the mega-witch tries to crash into Earth, Madoka herself (in goddess form) is there to personally end the witch. Madoka wanted for herself to end the witches. If the wish was meant to operate independently of her, she would have worded it as such.
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>>100458177
Sayaka better right hand of God anyway.
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>>100458295
Didn't Madoka's wish happen instantaneously? She rescues all the girls from turning into witches, and THEN reforms the universe to be guided by a new law(of cycles).

Maybe she doesn't have to direct it. I know some people from Shaft said in an interview that Madoka's law is still in effect, wraiths still exist.
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>>100457261
>Homura seized the chance as that desire was in accord with her own.
Homura chose to believe that Madoka that would make her feel most assured in what she wanted to do all along; that's correct. But the fact remains that her goal is the betterment of another person. Even if she's disregarding the will of that person, it's isn't a complete act of selfishness. She wants (selfishness) to make Madoka happy (selflessness) in a way she thinks (selfishness) is best for Madoka (selflessness). There's consideration for both parties in Homura's motivation.

>So it's best to try to simplify a bit, no?

Not really. These things are inherently grey, so it's needless to try and boil them down.
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>>100458295
Homura changed the rules, though, and she split Madokami in two. It's quite possible for Madokami to continue as a conscious entity doing her job independently of human Madoka.
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>>100458295
I think the reason she used the phrasing "with my own hands" was to make sure that her soul would stay around even after she's turned into a witch, allowing her to destroy her own witch, which would be impossible otherwise.

So...the Law of Cycles may be capable of turning into a witch now, unless it's stopped by an outside force, like Madoka herself?
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>>100458367
Well she is like Madoka, she wasn't worthy of the position but got it, because of someone close to her.
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>>100458520
Nepotism.
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>>100458177
I still think Kyouko would respect that Homura would fight so hard for Madoka. Homura herself considers Madoka her "friend", don't want to bring any unnecessary connotations into best bro relationship.
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>>100458295
That's the thing I don't think Madokami need a will, she just needs to be present in "physical form" in the process of erasing witches, I think Madokami is now just a golem, and technically golem have a will, the will to carry out the orders that are in charge with.
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>>100458478
>I think the reason she used the phrasing "with my own hands" was to make sure that her soul would stay around even after she's turned into a witch, allowing her to destroy her own witch, which would be impossible otherwise.

Madoka could have cheated and wished for it to be done by a duplicate of her personality. Then she could have kept existing (as a fantastically powerful magical girl, no less!) and also have changed the system personally. However, it would have been condemning a duplicate of herself to be stuck in that role, which Madoka would probably have rejected as unfair.
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>>100458541
Kyouko could definitely relate to Homura, seeing how far she went for Sayaka. In fact, she made that direct comparison in the last thing she ever said to Homura in episode 9.
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>>100458606
But she, the original Madoka, would just be erased anyway once she became a witch, and the duplicate would be the only one left. So that wouldn't really accomplish anything that her wish didn't.
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>>100458397
I think what happened is that at a certain point, there was too much despair and Madoka's earthly existence had gone witch. The wish that Madoka made though was able to defeat this witch. The paradox that Madoka wish killed Madoka's body made it so that the universe had to correct this and so it reformatted to accommodate Madoka's wish.

The law is still in effect and technically wraiths still exist, it's just that in Homura's world, those things are suspended, and once her witch/demon barrier breaks down, the regular rules of the universe will apply. The rules are only suspended inside the barrier, any thing outside it is still functional.

>>100458440
It's not a complete act of selfishness but it isn't as selfless as it was during the TV series, where she learned to accept (for the time being) Madoka's wish and Madoka's desires.

Maybe so, but again, we'd never finish writing, and 4chan has a post limit on threads, haha.

>>100458453
I am not sure but at this point it's all speculation so your and my points are equally valid until more information is released.

>>100458478
I think she wanted to feel useful so this was a way of doing it, by her herself making the wish happen. Also because it would be a true sacrifice, rather than a handwave via QB's power. She wanted to be the one to do the dirty work.

>>100458547
She has a will more than just completing the wish though. Otherwise, the Madoka inside Homura's gem wouldn't be possible.
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>>100458647
Well, "erased" would hopefully mean "join the Law of Cycles".
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>>100458666
>She has a will more than just completing the wish though.
And that's what I refer in my first post, Madoka's will to save all the magical girls in Yuri Valhalla is part of her humanity, which Homura took and leave only the will which is inherent to her wish that is erase witches.
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>>100458666
>but it isn't as selfless as it was during the TV series,
Oh yes, definitely. There's more regard for what she personally wants for Madoka in Rebellion. Homura's ideal went from protecting Madoka and assuring her safety to the aforementioned and assuring Madoka's happiness. Madoka was already happy however. But not in a way Homura thought was best for her.
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>>100458899
Oh wow, never thought of the fact that it's her humanity that creates the Yuri Valhalla. That certainly explains why witches still exist as servants to Madokami and her magical girls instead of just ceasing to exist.

So basically the Law of Cycles without Madoka's humanity is just Gretchen? Basically absorbing all the grief and the person's individuality making them one with the Law of Cycles.
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>>100458986
>So basically the Law of Cycles without Madoka's humanity is just Gretchen?
That's my theory, just that only affects magical girls.
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>>100458986
>So basically the Law of Cycles without Madoka's humanity is just Gretchen?
Hey, as long as her SALVATION is aimed away from us, that's fine for now.
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>>100458923
She was happy in a way Homura is happy at the end of Rebellion. She did what she wanted and was satisfied with that. But is that true happiness?
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>>100459044
Oh yeah good point, I forgot Gretchen targets all of humanity.
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>>100458899
Madoka IS the will, since it is by HER hand, which basically forces Madoka to personally kill the witches or no dice. Like with my mecha comparison earlier, a mech needs a pilot to make it work.

>>100458923
So we are in agreement?

>>100458986
I saw it more as Madoka uses the MG's as heralds. Sayaka didn't seem the same as she was in life; she struck me as more confident and wiser, like she knew things that you can only see if you were omniscient or at least able to observe humanity from a neutral POV. The way she used Oktavia also gave me a sense of her and the witch being merged, like a two sides of the same coin kind of deal
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>>100459179
>Like with my mecha comparison earlier, a mech needs a pilot to make it work.

Only by design.
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>>100459209
The design that Madoka chose. Since she wanted to do it with her own hands, personally.

To be fair, no one thought that you can rip away the personality component from Ultimate Madoka. This is one of the things that might be elaborated on in the future
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>>100459065
Happiness is happiness. Even if that happiness is based upon a lie.
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>>100459367
Only for as long as the lie lasts.
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>>100459390
Unless that lie lasts forever. And if that happens, is it really a lie?
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>>100459179
Witches are final forms of magical girls. Rebellion shows that they don't have to be inherently evil. Sayaka and Nagisa are one with Law of Cycles, witches book describes that LoC had to split them off.

Also, Madoka spent a month in Homulilly's barrier. Do you believe girls were unsaved during this time?
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>>100459438
Nothing lasts forever. I think even Homura knows this.
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>>100459179
>Like with my mecha comparison earlier, a mech needs a pilot to make it work.
A mecha can have autopilot and I think that is what Madokami is now, an entity following a sequence of pre-programmed actions.
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>>100459455
>Also, Madoka spent a month in Homulilly's barrier. Do you believe girls were unsaved during this time?
Of course not, Madoka operates outside time. She already has/will have saved anyone she was going to from the world's point of view.
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>>100459466
But what is forever, anon? What is the cosmos? What is life?
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>>100459564
Your mom.
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>>100459455
Yea, hence the two sides of the same coin. I don't think that the witches are so much evil as just emotional wrecks with no control. Homura went through a bit of this in her turn to witch as well.

Was that actual time? I thought the time spent in Homu's soul gem was unrelated to the time outside of it.

>>100459482
I don't really see it that was because of the way Madoka phrased her wish and how the wish is actually carried out. But that's difference of opinion.
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>>100459598
What is a mom though? A bearer a life? Or an ender of many others?
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>>100459674
This is a mom.
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>>100459674
Go away Homura, you're drunk, go erase the memory of someone or something.
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>>100459556
Then what does it matter if human part is taken out? All girls are saved already anyway.

>>100459652
It was. QB even complained how this experiment was taking too long.
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>>100459735
More like go sleep so she can get rid of her wrinkles/bags.
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>>100459598
your mom
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>>100459753
>Then what does it matter if human part is taken out? All girls are saved already anyway.
They were in the old universe, but this is a new universe, playing by new rules. Different things may happen.

>QB even complained how this experiment was taking too long.
Well he was inside the barrier, of course he would say that.
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>>100459705
Does the mom give birth to a temporary life, or does the mom live forever?
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>>100459367
The truth was basically evil anyway.
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>>100459705
But that isn't the mom of Homura, at least not for now.
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>>100459846
What is the sound of one Homura shutting up?
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>>100459937
ftfy
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>>100459937
Rape.
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>>100459989
You're a card, anon.
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>>100459753
Did QB mention a specific time frame though or are you basing it on the time inside the soul gem?
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>>100459823
He was watching from outside as well. And time didn't seem to flow differently there.
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I love Sayaka Miki!!
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>>100460197
What a coincidence. I, too, love Sayaka.
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>>100460251
It's a real Shame Kyousuke doesn't love her too though.
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>>100460197
I love to rape Sayaka Miki!!
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>And so Peter knocked out the Roman guard and pulled the Lord down from the Cross, for he could not bear to be separated from the Lord. Peter sated His thirst with water mixed with powder of forgetfulness and Jesus said to his disciple, "I thank thee Peter for bringing me down from that wood. I do not knoweth why I was there in the first place."

And then they went out for wine but Peter held in his heart the great sin he had committed.
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>>100460285
Homura please go.
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>>100460360
Shitty cop-out ending. The apostles were such sellouts.
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>>100460384
>Sayaka is the only one who remembers
Homura can't live without Sayaka
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>>100460467
Fuck off.
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>>100460384
Homura would never rape something so filthy as Miki Sayaka, she only has eyes for Madoka.
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>>100460503
Madoka is her princess. Other girls can be slaves.
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>>100460285
>>100453497
When did Homu start browsing /a/ and why is she shitposting
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>>100460722
When Madoka told all the other girls at school how weird she is, and because she's autistic.
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>>100460503
Yeah, but, well, it's still hot. If you want to be pessimistic as some like to be, you could say Homura can't go anywhere near Madoka without risking re awakening her. Or that she's permanently separated her connection by giving back the ribbons she had.

Not to mention all the people who consider Madoka absolute good, Homura absolute evil, and what Homura did as literal rape, and call the new world mass mind rape or something silly.
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I want to make tender love with Mami under the sheets while holding hands in the missionary position and after proper marriage.
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>>100460794
That picture of Homura is so weird. It manages to be extremely lewd without being lewd at all. I don't get it.
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>>100460794
>Homuraearningherrentbysellingherselfatthelocalhotal.png
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>>100460896
Hotels are lewd.
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>>100460896
I think you might be just be a pervert.
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>>100460917
It's the index finger and the gaze.
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>Rebellion still keeps 1st place at Amazon Japan and HMV's BD/DVD chart
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This was a pretty nice thread, albeit a bit depressing at times.
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>>100460995
>Rebellion
>posting an image of Madokami
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>>100460829
>she'll repeatedly rape Sayaka and then remove the memories of it

>>100460896
Maybe she's thinking lewd thoughts about raping Sayaka

>>100460904
anon pls
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>>100460794

Homu pics without her stockings infuriates me.
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>>100461030

>I'm the melon
>Dividing melon brings sweet dreams
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>>100459989
>PNG 3 times as big as identical JPG

well I guess that answers that
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>>100461275
WAKE UP
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>>100460360
You'd want to use "know," not "knoweth."
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>>100460283
>mfw Kyousuke was gay with Nakazawa the whole time
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>>100461285
as expected of Sayaka considering dicks
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>>100461275
Yeah, real sweet dreams all right. I want my money back.
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>>100460995
Now if a site that won't require me to go to the bank to exchanged my USD for JPY, I'd pick it up too.
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>>100461275

>And the dream tonight is a bitter one
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>>100461285
Sayaka considering larger dicks makes for a larger filesize.
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>>100460995
Hurry the fuck up Aniplex USA, I want to get your Animate Shop bonuses like the wallscroll that came with 1-2.
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>>100461566
Not happening.
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>>100461566
How long did they take last year? Fells like it wasn't this long.
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>>100461606
Are you sure? I'm sorely tempted to get a preorder in somewhere else, but if there's anything like last time I want to get the translation pamphlets and stuff.

Does Amazon get bitchy at cancelled preorders like AmiAmi does?
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>>100461606
What's not happening? Animate bonuses or an Aniplex USA release?
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>>100461712
USA
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>>100461699
Pretty sure Amazon doesn't give much a shit about cancellations, given they even give you the option to up until it ships. No problem going ahead and preordering from them just in case AoA isn't importing them (unlikely, but possible).
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>>100461794
And what makes you think that?
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>>100461927
My dad works at Aniplex.



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