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Previous thread >>100391709

Horriblesubs soon
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So how QUALITY was this 2nd ep and was it slutty ?
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>"These are your moe pigs" -Yamakan
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Anime status:
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>making another thread for this shitfest

You mistake.
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Miyuu is my oshi because she reminds me of my oshi.
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>>100423347
Slutty as hell. Plenty of QUALITY. Anime is being saved.
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>>100423317
best wug
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Who's the best wug and why is it Tange?
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Yamakan is as bad as EA. I know he's desperate but jesus christ "look at how edgy and controversial my anime is everyone!" what's he going to do next, hire people to protest it?
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Miyu best grill
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http://strawpoll.me/1033400
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WUG is litterally Otaku no Video of our generation.
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>>100423398
He doesn't need to hire anyone. Everyone hates it already.
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General reminder: If you want to see a real idol anime please watch idolm@ster the animation instead of this garbage.
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>>100423430
Implying most of newfags even know what it is
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>new thread
Welp, I'm done. Goodnight, /a/.
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Vote the best WUG

strawpoll.me/1008142/
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>>100423430
Otaku haven't changed though. There's no reason for a new one.
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>>100423570
Yamakan is raping me I can feel it and it hurts
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>>100423430
Needs live action sequences and interviews with Idols that became whores
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>>100423596
Just relax, it'll all be over soon.
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>>100423570
I was hoping something like that would happen but I was not ready for child prostitution on the second episode. Yamakan really is a full brown degenerate. I love it.
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>>100423659
I don't know what this guy's problem is but he's a real fucking sicko. Did you know that in his landmark animation "fractale" the main character has her vagina examined by an old man?
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>>100423430
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xqisAvgc7M&hd=1
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Haha, what the fuck? So edgy and provocative? What the fuck are you doing Yamakan? What with this outlandish scenario? I'm sure normal casting couch is more popular in idol industry than this weird JAV intro.
What was he thinking?
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>>100423693
By the way, you probably think I'm joking or trolling here but I'm not. It really happens and it's not even relevant to the plot. It's just shoved in near the end. I would say trigger warning but there's no kind of warning that can prepare you for something like that.
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>>100423808
>trigger warning
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>>100423693
The irony - the priest that did the examination in Fractale appears at the end of 2nd WUG episode as TV Show organizer.
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>hurr durr this isn't real like im@s and their friendly adventures and how they're stopping the evil Kuroi
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>>100423498
>im@s anime
>good
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>>100423907
>Implying im@s isn't realistic
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>>100423972
Verty, please take your pills.
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>>100423972
Imas is probably one of the most realistic idol anime.

Who actually believes this shit that 12 year old girls are getting raped by their producers?
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>>100423907
Nah. It's just ridiculous. Underage girls in bikini serving in a public restaurant? Come on.
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>>100423498
I think I watched 7 episodes of IM@S back when it started airing.
It was boring and I didn't grew attached to not even a single character.
I saw the WUG movie and found at least 3 girls I really like in 000.3 s.
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>2014
>being mad about fanservice
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>>100424047
www.love-vespa.ne.jp/eng/eng.html
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>>100424047
www.japantoday.com/category/kuchikomi/view/legal-loopholes-give-rise-to-bars-salons-employing-underage-girls
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And Yamakan is begging animators to help them with this. What animator would be so desperate that they would risk their career to work on a show that depicts underage girls being raped?
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>[HorribleSubs] Wake Up, Girls! - 02 [720p].mkv
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>>100424174
Have they closed those loopholes yet
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>>100424186
Anybody in SHAFT?
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>>100424186
The one that wants to go down in History and be part of creating a masterpiece.
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>>100423808
>trigger warning
Just fuck off mate.
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So, WUG is really Samurai Flamenco with idols, huh. The threads are even complete with rape shitpossters.
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>>100424047
I thought that the maids/girls at cosplay coffees do that all the time, and of course, they are underage.
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>>100424078
But in the end they're all great
Based Yamakan

Are we going to see more of that other idol group ?
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Hmm. I think i`ll order Movie and TV BDs before first release is sold out.
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>>100424169
Dude, this one is literally staged.

>>100424174
..and this one is a shady bar where slutty girl gets extra dosh.

None of these have anything to do with what happened in WuG where the girl were basically forced to do such things.
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These fragile girls, their petals torn and smeared with their pure blood. Sullied lilies, wilting. Yamakan smiles in the rain.
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>>100424260
>anime directed by Yamakan
>sold out
Anon, please
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>>100424169
Nothing about them being underage.
>>100424174
Yes, it's a legal loophole. Your point?
1) They are talking about spa.
2) They are high schoolers
3) They aren't completely casual about this. Even police is interested in these places.

Compare it with WUG. They treat it like something completely natural and common. Guess what? It's not.
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Interesting fact:
Before directing first Lucky Stars episodes, Yamakan actually went to highschools, observed and talked with highschool girls to learn how they act, what they talk about and imitate it in realistic matter.
He actually RESEARCHED the way to eat chocolate scone correctly and how girls chat about nothing.

This guy is a genius.
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I wish for WUG to continue as a "cute slutty girls being forced to do cute slutty things" show.
Make it happen, Yamakan. It can only escalate from here.
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>>100424092
This isn't fanservice

This is blatant realistic sexual haressment

>Perverted hack wants underage girls to wear bikini for their next work
>Work as waitress while all their customers are molesting them with their eyes or their hands

If it weren't for the prez coming back to save the day the girl might have ended up in some love hotels statutory raped by the 'customers'
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These are your moe pigs.
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>>100424354
Look, Yamakan would fucking know more about Japan than some random shitposter on the internet(you)
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720 is out.

>>100424260
But the movie wasn't a total failure? Something like only 10 million box office?
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>>100424358
Yamakan is the only true auteur in the world of hacks.
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>>100424446
I'm sure Yamakan is an expert on sexually abusing underage idols.
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>>100424260

wwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>100424358
Aaaaaand then he got fired. KyoAni literally couldn't handle his genius working with them.
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>>100424367
If these girls were any realistic, they would explode from the harassment, leave the place and the manager would've stopped this.

None of the things they were doing have anything to do with idol work, you would be borderline retarded to believe otherwise.
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You see yamakan coming towards you down a hallway. How do you feel? What will you do?
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>>100424446
Why? I read plenty about Japan and idol industry. Yes, ugly shit happens, but like I said, this whole scenario is simply outlandish and very unlikely.
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>>100424210
No, but japanese police raids such companies under different pretences. Like unhygienic work conditions and such
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>>100423373
Seconded.
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>>100424533
I feel raped. I'm being raped, there's nothing I can do.
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>>100424242
Still not Guillotine Gorilla and still good. Its sad how SamFlam turned out. I hope WUG will be able to maintain edge without turning completely retarded.
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>>100424533
[x] Genuflect
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>>100424505
They thought what they are doing is idol work. Until one could handle the molestation and hit the customer

You are the retarded one.
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Nothing can increase sales like underage girls being sexually molested.
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The trolling in this thread is off the fucking charts
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>>100424591
>Implying Guillotine Gorilla wasn't saving anime before WUG
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>>100423398
It's not that edgy or controversial in itself. People just need to make a big deal out of everything because it's Yamakan.
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>>100424605
>They thought what they are doing is idol work.

Then these girls are a complete idiot, and Yamakan makes them idiot so that he could shove in his shitty fan service. This episode is as retarded as that moment when they said that they don't mind flashing their panties.
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>>100424502
He wasnt fired for that though. He worked in KyoAni longer after Lucky Star.

Still no factual info about why he was fired. He tells he cant tell and people should ask KyoAni. KyoAni is silent. Apparently is was scandalous enougth in Japan at that time and theres even book investigating it - but no annon read it and can tell what really happened.

Sexual harrassment is the most popular theory
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>>100424670
Only yamakan can save us
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I'm glad she enjoys being slutty.
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>>100424505
>I watch idolm@ster so I know all the ins and outs of the idol industry
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>>100424505
>If these girls were any realistic, they would explode from the harassment, leave the place and the manager would've stopped this.
You sure are talking about Japanese girls?
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>>100424734
She'll spread her legs instantly for some delicious food.
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>>100424546
The unlikely part is having the completely incompetent manager, it's part of his job to stop his idols from getting into seedy shit, but as you admit shit like this happens so after having accepted an idol group with a manager who doesn't know what the hell he's doing it isn't that far fetched.
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I think we need to reconsider the purity of our wugs, /a/.
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>>100424473
He is actually an Idol fag that loves Idol groups and went as far as telling "Idols would save japan". Plus, he basically actually created and manages the real idol band right now.

So yeah, i assume he knows somethign.
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I like WuG and make favorable posts about it just to piss off idolfags who hate it.

They had it coming for liking all those shitty idol anime we've been seeing and not this masterpiece.
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>>100424711
Stop m8
Yamakan is pure
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>>100424748
>You sure are talking about Japanese girls?

Normal Japanese girls, not in your hentai or JAV.
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>subbing the scrolling advertisement at the bottom of the screen

sasuga crunchyroll
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>>100424785
>Worst WUG
>Pure
Ok reddit
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>>100424785
MOST PURE
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>>100424711
He put his dick in Aya Hirano
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>bawww my 16 year old idols are being sexually harassed

Please. If this was realistic it would have 12 year old girls getting fucked and sending nudes on the mobile phones.
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>>100424452
>But the movie wasn't a total failure? Something like only 10 million box office?
it was show only in 13 theatres, with total of 57 screenigs at that time. It sounds very little compared to actual "movies", but its not. It basically is promo screening and for little theatres it was shown it is doing well.

The goal is to generate the buzz. Seems lot of money invested in wug and the only way to return them is long term benefits from merchandize and Idol and (and Sendai is flooded with merch now). Mobage seems to be doing well too,
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>>100424785
I'M FAPPING WITH THE FORCE OF A THOUSAND SUNS
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>>100424748
Do you want to try that to a real Japanese underaged girl to see what happens?
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>>100424864
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>7 Idols dropped to 59th place in preorder ranking
>First vol is on its way to 600th ranking
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I'm going to fap so much to all the art this episode will bring.
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>>100424784
Eh, this whole thing is unlikely. Even rape or sexual assault is more possible.
>1 girl agree for something more. She goes somewhere with the producer. He sexually assaults her
There. More possible and makes more sense.
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>>100424533
Hug him then brofist him.
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>>100424707
>Then these girls are a complete idiots
Welcome to idols and general attentionwhoring.
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>>100424943
They get molested all the fucking time and do nothing about it. Yes, I'm sure it would be fine.
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>>100424591
GG was good. Its what followed after King Torture ark that ruined anime
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>>100424785
Y-yamakan what the fuck are you making these poor girls do.
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>Name of the show is "Wake up, Girls!"
>Name of the center is 真夢 (True Dream)
>Nobody realizes this is a caricature of the abuse girls have to go through to make it in the idol business intending to make the real girls watching it realize how fucked up their dreams are.
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>>100424648
The opposite is likely true. As you seen from reaction in this thread Idol Otaku are mad. In japan even more so.

Its like going to their Yakinuki or whatever shrine and starting a speech abour rape of nanking
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>>100424998
>tripshit calling others attention whores

lol
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>>100425038
I'm not sure you are trolling or you actually believe all the shits from hentai and Jap AV
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>>100424917
>If this was realistic it would have 12 year old girls getting fucked and sending nudes on the mobile phones.

Why do people always assume that this kind of shit is realistic when it only happened in the doujins and such.

>but its the Yakuza
>the deep dark secret of idol world

You don't know anon, and neither does I.
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>>100424707
>BAAAAAAAAAW all idols should be pure
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>>100425087
Well, he has experience on the topic. I'd trust him if I were you.
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>>100425038
Not like that. They don't do anything about chikan because it's fairly harmless and there are too many people there.
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>>100424707
But idols do that kind of staff? Especially the amateur talento that basically hang on any job, be it being hostesses on events, mascots for something or plain public gravure shots

Idols become IDOLS - aka idealized worshiped pure maiden later when they become popular. No one gives a damn about them at start
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>>100425140
These girls should at least have some functioning brain or a bit of common sense. They are right now is as retarded as any of those moeshit girls, you know, the one that is not realistic.
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>>100424354
>1) They are talking about spa.
They are at a spa.
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>>100425184
Stop it, you're fucking stupid
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>>100425177
You are talking about mature girl that wants money, not underaged girl here.
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>>100424473
The Irony of IM@S fags shitting on WUG is that IM@S script writer is the one writing WUG script as well

Maximum Yamakan trolling
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>>100424711
I can understand why somebody would want to sexually violate Yamakan.
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>>100425244
Most girls who want to become idols start when they're underage, you know
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>>100425245
Yamakan corrupts everything and everyone he touches. I'm not surprising.
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>>100424533
Applaud and ask him to record a statement to my friends on the internet about what message he was trying to give off with WuG.
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"Let's go to Large Boy" - underage idol girl
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>>100425227
What? I'm stupid know for criticizing a bad characteristic?
What about you who accept this shit as 'realistic'?

This isn't your fantasy anon, no girl with ounce of common sense would do this kind of shit unless they are a whore or desperate.
And we got an experienced idol among their group for gods sake, why does she have to act like a retard to?
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>>100425196
They are? They are still too young and like I said, this is really not something common.
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>>100425082
Deep

I cant wait for next episode with Fractale Priest TV guy
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>>100425286
Wanting something =/= doing it. They want to be idols, not whores.
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>>100425369
I wonder if he'll be making sure they are virgins?
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>>100425403
You must first become a whore to become an idol.
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>>100425452
>my hentai says so
>so it must be true

Anon, stop talking using your dick.
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>>100425351
> And we got an experienced idol among their group for gods sake, why does she have to act like a retard to?
From how she reacted, she knew what will happen. I-1 Club probably had a similar star.
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Oh, I remember Fractale. Fuck, Yamakan is kinda a pervert. There is even some possibility of rape in WUG.
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>>100425483
Prove me wrong
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>>100425483
Go outside sometimes. There's plenty of girls that are even more retarded.
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>>100425486
*start
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>>100425351
Your idealized view of the idol industry is what is unrealistic.
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I really hope one of them gets pregnant.
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lol
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>>100425528
So you are saying these girls are retarded whores. Why do I care about their struggles if they've gotten what they deserve?
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The funniest thing is the people who actually believe "upstanding", "correct" girls wouldn't submit themselves to harassment or wearing slutty outfits. What kind of fairy tale world do you people live in?
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>>100425544
And yours too, basing your views of these japanese girls solely through those faps material.
You know nothing anon, and I admit that I know nothing either.

But talking about girl whoring themselves, sucking manager cocks etc is something that you can only found in hentai or h-doujin materials.
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>>100425626
So you agree with me. Should've said that sooner
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what the fuck yamakan
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>>100425649
Better "fairy tale" than you obviously you filthy murrikan scum.
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>>100425245
>it's the same scriptwriter therefore one show can't be better than the other
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>>100425684
So can we conclude that, the way these girls act is anything but realistic? That these girls were made to be fools to that Yamakan could have his precious fan-service shoved in?
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>>100425691
Are you felling the saving?
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>>100425527
I feel like this would make a good exploitable but I can't think of anything funny to put in it
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>2 episode
>sexual harrassment
Nice. Time to reveal that this whole idol business is yakuza's scam.
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>***,*59位 (**1,262pt) [*,*24予約] 2014年02月28日 劇場版「Wake Up Girls! 七人のアイドル」 初回限定版[Blu-ray+CD]
>***,576位 (***,211pt) [*,**7予約] 2014年03月28日 Wake Up Girls! 1 初回生産限定版 [Blu-ray]
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>>100425700
>murrikan
Sorry, never even been to clapland.
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>>100425745
No. We conclude that these girls are realistic because girls will do anything for attention and Yamakan is portraying this because WUG is the Citizen Kane of anime.
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>>100425684
But Yamakan wants to project a different image, saying they are victims. Victimized girls don't gladly act like sluts. Hence

> this show
> realism
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>>100425658
>girl whoring themselves, sucking manager cocks etc is something that you can only found in hentai or h-doujin materials.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I like Yaraon news approach:

-Oh look! Such delicious fanservice in No-Rin, Strike the Blood, Tokyo Raven whatever! Great Fap material, everyone buy!
-WUG: FUUU YAMAKAN SHOWS FEMALE BUT! DISGUSTING!
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>>100425691
They are naive young girls who _want_ to go into _show_ business!
Of course they will be tricked a few times, especially with such incompetent manager.
The could have it much worse.
Yamakan is going easy on us.
ShowBiz is a filthy competitive brutal place.
This show is great so far!
Well done Yamakan, you showed some balls.
Let the Nipponese retarded otaku hate you, they know nothing.
You are a true here anime needs!
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>>100425793
I hope Yamakan commits sudoku after this.

Now that is something that might save anime.
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>>100425658
You are incredibly delusional if you think that Japan's idol industry isn't filled to the brim with girls being exploited.
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>>100425833
We'll see about that
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>>100425658
> But talking about girl whoring themselves, sucking manager cocks etc is something that you can only found in hentai or h-doujin materials
Do you live in a cave? Whoring yourself is pretty common if you want to advance in the entertainment industry or anywhere else in a high position. Sure, there are girls who won't do that, but there are also girls who will do it.
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>>100425920
You're trying to argue with a delusional idolfag from /jp/. It's a waste of everyone's time.
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Does yamakan also subject his idols to sexual humiliation and harrassment?

Also, did he hire Rustle to make backgrounds?
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>>100425833
I see your point and I agree.
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I think this episode done good
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I feel bad for the VA girls yamakan dragged into this.
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Here he is.
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>>100425920
>>100425946
Whose being delusional here?
Me, who try to take this as logical as possible or some dudes who thinks what happened in those doujin frequently happened in this world?
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Someone from staff posted next week will be 10 times more interesting.

What could happen? Synopsis sounds pretty generic: they participate in 3 minute TV show segment and radio show. Also.. the title of episode is "scandal"
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>>100425986
Looks like a photo with some filters thrown on top. Rustle would never do such things, he never traces or anything like that.
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>>100425833
Realism... not quite.
But sending some strong statements across about the "idols".
I like it so far!
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>>100426007
They aren't VAs, he made them into an idol group.
This show is actually a documentary of what he's made them do
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Real Minami is cute.
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>>100425793
***,453位/***,576位 ★ (***,211 pt) [*,**7予約] 2014/03/28 Wake Up Girls! 1 初回生産限定版 [Blu-ray]

Went up over 100 after episode 2,i guess will up even more later
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>>100425861
The reaction would be different if Yamakan hasn't been a hypocrite about fan service. His defense was that he wants to make a "realistic" anime about idols. But by the way these girls were dumped down as sluts so that Yamakan can show some nice fan-services, that defense is voided.
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Can't we just enjoy the cute girls like we always do and not argue about the workings and moral shortcomings of an industry and society most of us don't even have a proper understanding and knowledge of to make any reliable assessments about?

I really liked the girls on this show too.
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>>100425793
>>***,*59位 (**1,262pt) [*,*24予約] 2014年02月28日 劇場版「Wake Up Girls! 七人のアイドル」 初回限定版[Blu-ray+CD]

Its doing decent, whats your point?
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>>100426067
>the title of episode is "scandal"
Fans discover Miyuu sucks cocks for cash
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>>100426103
Anon, it was somewhere around 300 before I think.
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>>100426007
They probably had to whore themselves out to him, and now he's making them do a show that highlights the victimization of girls in the entertainment industry.

Sasuga Yamakan; playing the angel and the devil at the same time.
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>>100426067
I can't fucking wait!
I feel so saved after this ep that I don't even know anymore!
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>>100426113
This IS realistic, you fucking nigger
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>>100426158
Nah it down to 576 before air
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>>100426143
Dropped from 40th rank a couple of hour before, it peaked at 36 or something before that.
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>>100424078
You dropped it too early then. iM@S starts really slow.
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>>100425718
You are right WUG is better.
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>>100426148
That would be better than this stupid episode.
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>>100426148
>get on TV
>start being noticed
>one of the old guys posts his set of photos to @channel
>scandal ensues
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If one of the WUG girls turned out to have given blowjobs for money, which girl would you prefer it be?
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>>100426193
You mean like how this anon >>100426173 fantasize about?
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Surprised that they took the audiences shit for that long, damn Japanese and their politeness.
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>>100426134
Would you still like them knowing that they are all portrayed as restarted and/or whores anon?
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>>100426193
It's not.
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>>100426113
>Yamakan
>hypocrite about fan service

[citation needed]
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>>100426259
Yes. That's the best theory right now.
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>>100426067
I don't know, I found this episode to be super-interesting.
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>>100426315
You really need to stop talking with your dick anon.
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Yamakan is a misunderstood genius. The time will come in which he'll be accepted as the revolutionary director he is.
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>>100426134
No!
This anime is blatantly stating a political/social message.
We can't ignore it even if we are incompetent socially inept introverts!
I want to see where it will go next and I'll comment from my perspective however "distorted" it may be.
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>>100425766
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This makes me feel sad, the manager needs some balls and stop this shit. Looking forward to more.
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>>100425793
Stalker does not update that fast. Wait few hours to see if this episode actually effected anything.
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>>100426148
> being this typical kayafag
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These girls need to find Miss Monochrome's manager, Matsuda is a pushover.
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>>100426353
And you need to shut the fuck up. Just you fucking niggers wait, Yamakan WILL save the anime with this title, you literally CAN'T judge a series by 2 episodes
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>>100426103
This isn't going to sell well because people don't like to see the dark underside of something they idolize. Pandering will always trump realism, especially with otakus.
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it's inevitable
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>>100426442
No, Miyuu is my favorite girl.
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>that fucking skirt
Airi = pure maiden status
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>>100424358
I honestly think the first four episodes of lucky star are immensely better than the rest of the series.
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>>100426276
I already knew that when I said I did.
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>>100426276
>restarted
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>>100426456
But a lot of them get off on the exploitation, don't they?
I mean, they must know it exists, right? They can't be that delusional.
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>>100426553
>group of guys cheering on Wake Up Girls in the audience

>don't notice half of them sitting right there
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>>100426553
"I want the girl with the short skirt and a looooong... jacket!"
Model a best!
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>>100426456
This, the otaku are still not prepared for Yamakan's criticism and search for a more realistic anime. Otaku will try to destroy his reputation because they don't like to be remembered of reality in anime.
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>>100426113
You are talking out of your ass.

18:51:52 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> Q: The relationship between the audience and the creators has become closer thanks to the internet. What do you think are the effects of this and it's effects on the industry.
18:52:37 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> A: Because of the closer relationship with the audience and the creator, the creators have been strongly effected
18:53:04 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> And I've seen this as a big issue in the past few issues..and to put it bluntly, i've seen the creators become slaves to the audience
18:53:54 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> and this is one conviction that i strongly have, and that's creators are not slaves of the audience and the creative products are not there to satisfy the lust of the audience 100%
18:54:26 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> And one thing that I recently tweeted about and this is something that hayao miyazaki once said, and i go back to him, and he once said that anime has become instrument in the sex industry
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Miyu confirmed for pure girl who worked in a happy and friendly environment with no danger to her chastity.
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>>100426249
Miyuu. She's already a lost cause in terns of slutyness. I would be ok with Nanami too.
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>>100423693
The whole Fractale system is kinda rape powered, if you missed that.
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>>100426651
It's not more realistic. It's more edgy.
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>>100426651
I'm afraid you're right.
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>>100426656
18:56:11 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> what i'm feeling today is that it's important for anime to entertain the audience, but it cannot be a slave to only that, but then you lose the theme and you lose the messages you want to incorporate into your works
18:56:44 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> right now the voice of the audience is too overbearing on the internet to the point that creators fear and obey
18:56:38 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> and that kind of servitude really takes the (lost) out of anijme
18:57:07 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> but i also conclude that creators cannot only do a one way imposition either, i think one way communication is an outdate concept in the modern world
18:58:07 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> and that's why i think that's it's not proper to consider the audience to be better or the creators to be better, and i think there needs to be adialog, that's why i tweet, that's why i go to conventions (paraphrase)

He is not against fanservice. He is against being slave to demand. His approach is that anime should be first of all Entertainment for a viewer giving them what they want - while doing own thing too. Neither fan slavery, nor pure "art" for sake of it.
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Does anyone have a nice clean picture of 'that pool' ?
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Best girls sticking together.
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>>100426656
Stop posting this old as fuck interview anons. Were talking about a guy who didn't keep his word on leaving this industry and use a fucked up method to get his way back in it.
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>>100426625
I wouldn't be so sure. These are the same type of people who call seijuus/idols who marry sluts.
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>>100426708
Miyuu would probably be too stupid to figure out what she was doing.
So I think it's probably surprisingly likely.
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>>100426625
Too niche. Market-wise, this sort of thing belongs in doujins.
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>>100426723
More realistic is not the same than completely realistic. It's definitely more realistic than other idol shows but it's fiction after all.
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>>100426781
They are though.
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>>100426656
> anime has become instrument in the sex industry.
Hence, Yamakan is against the exploitation of sex in anime -> Yamakan is against fan-service.
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>>100426802
She doesn't need to understand it. She's smart enough to understand that she shouldn't bite. That should be enough.
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>best girls sticking together
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I hope this goes absolutely nuts and one of them starts getting death threats for dating a guy or, to make it even more nuts, gets pregnant.
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>>100426848
top kek
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http://strawpoll.me/1022564
Well, anon?
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>>100426818
>It's definitely more realistic than other idol shows

I keep seeing these statements but I just couldn't find the truth behind it. This show still rely on dramatization to make the plot interesting, it no more realistic than any of those show you try to compare with.
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Does anyone actually like Nanami?
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>>100426939
yes
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>>100424951
>>100424864
Miyu double-confirmed best girl.
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>>100426848
Nooope. A woman who is married is definitely less likely to be a slut when compared to a woman that is single(probably having casual sex all the time)
At least when a seijuu or something is married, you can assume that the man she is married to is the only one she loves.
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>>100426747
> He is not against fanservice. He is against being slave to demand.
And the overwhelming demand is fan-service? I don't know why you can't see the inherit contradiction in your statement.
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>>100426925
>Ask 4chan for advice 28%

My niggers.
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>>100426747
>>100426656
>That vision
Truly our savior.
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>>100426113
The fanservice was supposed to be awkward and uncomfortable as hell. And from the looks of things that's how all of us felt watching this episode. Not everything is designed to make you all warm and fluffy inside.
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Best girl.
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>>100426970
>Nooope.
Kill yourself.
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>>100426933
> I don't know what realism means
Anon, please
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>>100426973
I don't think you're capable of comprehending a text longer than 1 line long. He clearly says there needs to be a compromise by the creators too if they want to convey an original message.
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>>100426939
nanami = poor man's minami
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>>100426925
This is absolute comedy gold
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>>100426997
I feel like asking 4chan for advice on what to do with a group of teen girls would not result in very useful advice
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>>100426970
>you can assume that the man she is married to is the only one she loves.
Are you really that naive? Or are you just in fervent denial because your own mother was a slut?

>Nooope
Please go.
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>>100426864
>can't even take a proper screencap
Sasuga shit taste.
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What the fuck their manager doing?
They should sue the office.
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>>100427001
Best indeed!
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>>100426999
Then some of those blatant fan-service shots were completely unnecessary if he really intend it to be that way.
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>>100426933
http://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/innocence-lost-the-dark-side-of-akihabara
Enlighten yourself, /a/non. The idol industry isn't all sunshine and rainbows.
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>>100426864
>Nanami
More like shit brat.
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>>100426973
Except he did not do "fanservice" for sake of it - its part of his plot and message. If anything, large part of people were disturbed by what they see not aroused like people here (guh we fap for guro and loli rape)

The analogy with sex industry is that it is litterally just supplies customers with goods to satisfy their carnal needs- nothing more. While Anime is an artistic medium that can has value on itself and "demand" is not sole purpose why it should exist
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>>100426939
Yes. For anal.
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>>100427076
4chan's advice: Rape the maid.
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>>100426970
>At least when a seijuu or something is married
>seijuu
seijuu means space monster
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>>100427118
>has no clue what cropping is
it's ok anon
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>>100427042
>>100427094
What's wrong with saying ''nooope''? I don't get that, that's the first time some fucking faggots called me out on it.

Also, it's fucking true. Married women are less likely to be sluts. If anything, more women should marry men and live long together.
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>>100426999
I would feel unconfortable if the girls felt it as well. Here, they are ok with it like whores. Why should I feel unconfortable for them? What I'm mad about is what Yamakan has done to these girls' characters.
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>>100426818
Meh. I have this problem with many anime. It's like Japanese directors don't understand humans and the world.
They read about something in books or newspapers and they think that this situation applies to everything. It doesn't matter that in the original story there were high schoolers instead of middle schoolers.
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>>100427118
Nice filename bro
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>>100427182
>What's wrong with saying ''nooope''?
It makes you sound like a 14 year old little shitbag, that's what.
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>>100427045
Hey, both of us manipulate those words to fits our arguments.
Its meaning is broad enough.
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>>100427076
Considering the next 5 top vote-getters all involve abusing the girls, your gut feeling is probably right.
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Oh god, this was really fucking painful to watch. I'm glad it only covered half of the episode itself.
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Will be ever stop talking about Yamakan and enjoy Minami's booty?
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>>100423693
>>100426719
PICKED UP
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>>100427273
I can't enjoy her booty unless she doesn't enjoy it
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>>100427148
>Japantoday

Why don't you just link Sankaku while you're at it.\
This site is nothing but posting shady and juicy articles for clicks.
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>>100427273
Minami's body is not for enjoying
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>>100427183
They all expressed discomfort at least once. They did it because it was expected of them, and that's how their society works. But there's a point where it went too far, and they reached it and were going to walk away.
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>>100427148
Nice. But really not surprise. Its not like Japan is on other planet. A lot of fucked up shit happens in every country. Japan is not special. Even "safe" countries like Germany have its whole load of scandals and hushed things.
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>>100424078
>in 000.3 s.
>several zeros before the decimal point
Holy shit, this is unbearable, worst fanbase of the season already.
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>>100426553
More like abused as a little girl status.
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>>100427241
It was kin of disturbing. A actuallt _felt_ bad for the girls.
Sasuga Yamakan!
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>>100427386
IM@S fanbase? I agree. Pure shitposting cancer.
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>>100426634
Only one of them was at the concert. Besides, they only care about best girl.
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>>100427148
See. And this perfectly shows that you don't understand anything.
Junior Idols and normal, mostly singing idols are different. This is not the same. WUG aren't junior idols.
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It beings.
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>>100424920
>The goal is to generate the buzz.
Seeing as the preorders for the show are only one sixth of those for the movie, and the movie orders are already low, this strategy was a resounding failure.
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This show is awful
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>>100427472
So fat and pink.
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>>100424951
Hacking right into my heart.
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>>100427500
No, you.
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>>100427183
>Here, they are ok with it like whores.

No? They were pretty reluctant to continue with the shitty job. None of them were enjoying it except Minami during the photoshoot session.

Slut confirmed?
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>>100427478
The Japan is beyond saving at this point.
They are going down.
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>>100426925
>Impregnate my favorite, take responsibility, abandon the rest
Minami will be my bride
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>>100427400
what does that make pornstars?
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>>100427472
I recognise that pool.
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>>100427290
Everything Yamakan touches has rape and sexual scandals. Everything.
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>>100427183
Just because they're smiling doesn't mean they're comfortable. It's their job.
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>>100427472
Hei, i belive i actually watched and fapped to the video the pic of whose is used for this background
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>>100427557
She wasn't even aware what she was doing.
She is the victim.
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>>100427557
>Slut confirmed?
You mean purest confirmed.
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>>100427581
There was rape in Lucky Star?
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>>100427241
This was so fucking uncanny I couldn't even breath watching this.
Yamakan is truly saviour of anime
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>>100427241
I think that's the idea of the episode.
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>>100427650
I should have said "or sexual scandals" and I meant Hirano.
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>>100427557
She was too young to realise what was going on.
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>>100427650
Its implied that Father sexually abused Konata
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>>100427051
>>100427160
> Except he did not do "fanservice" for sake of it
Are you all deluded by Yamakan's use of words? He just makes the fan service as blatant and un-tasteful as any B-list director does. The difference is, he throws some Jedi mind tricks to make you believe that his fan-service is "for it to against it" or high art with deep meaning. So the sheep would buy his sub-par products thinking that these are masterpieces while Yamakan is laughing all the way to the bank.
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>>100426143
>Its doing decent
>(**1,262pt)
I'm sure Madoka already feels Yamakan's breath in her neck.
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>>100427735
>The difference is, he throws some Jedi mind tricks to make you believe that his fan-service is "for it to against it" or high art with deep meaning.
It wasn't that complex anon. The message was pretty clear. I don't know why you try to make it sound as if this is more than what it obviously is.
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>>100427735
Your point?
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>>100427650
Aya hirano x EverybodyButTheBassist scandal, also Yamakan x Yamada sexual harrassment scandal.
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>>100427735
The panties in the movie were fan service. This entire episode was fan disservice.
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>>100427829
This. It was painful to watch.
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So, almost everyone hates this anime because it shows how shitty the idol fanbase is?
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>>100427779
>Comparing to Madoka
Found your problem. He said decent, not "It's doing so great it's going bakemono levels".
It's doing far more better than half of the anime from this season. It would be probably doing even better if people would stop crying about Yamakan that, Yamakan this.
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>>100426999
>The fanservice was supposed to be awkward and uncomfortable as hell. And from the looks of things that's how all of us felt watching this episode.
>that's how all of us felt watching this episode.

I think a more accurate approximation of the audience's reaction is >>100424936
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>>100427883
No, just the butthurt /jp/ idol fags hate it

Its truly Otaku no Video of our time
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http://strawpoll.me/1034014/

what does /a/ think
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>>100427910
Nope, that post was a joke.
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>>100427800
That Yamakan is a hack.
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>>100427910
>think a more accurate approximation of the audience's reaction is
>4chan
>accurate approximation of the audience
I fap to guro pics of dead idols being brain skull raped
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>>100427735
Having almost all the girls be unhappy about it and them and the manager saying how wrong it was is hardly some subtle mind-trick.
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I'm laughing at how accurate my Pantsu analysis was, it pegged Minami as willing to show them ahead of time, and here she was the only girl who really didn't seem to mind the whole thing.

All other girls were pegged as pure, sans Mayu who's already been though this shit and is used to it by now.

Pic related, purest girl.
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>>100427883
Nobody hates the show. Oh god i don't know if i'll be able to deal with WUG! threads even if i like the show.
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>>100427885
>compare movie to show
Found your problem. The movie is doing poorly for a movie. The show is doing poorly for a show. Better ask why some people ordered the movie but are not ordering the show.
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>>100428010
She nearly hit one of the customers.
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This episode just solidified the fact that Miyu is the best wug.
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The real question is: Will Matsuda ever stop being pathetic?
The manager suddenly showing up and saving the day was too optimistic.
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This episode was awkward as fuck.

>>100427949
First option, but "rape the maid" was funnier, so I voted it.
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>>100428067
Good scene.
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>>100427949
Not even in idolmaster was what happened behind closed doors all pure and holistic.

Love Live gets a pass becuase it's a school activity, not real idols. However, even then we wondered how exactly the girls ended up with merchandise in the idol shop.
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>>100428054
The movie "doing bad" was already explained. Sorry you missed the threads. For the price and places where it was aired it's doing even good.
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>>100428084
Matsuda is Yamakan's self insert, so no, he will never stop being pathetic
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>>100427992
Unhappy? They should have been livid. Many fan-service anime shows the girls unhappy as well. Is there any difference?
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>>100427935
I'm an idol fag and I'm enjoying this more than I should.
The child prostitution angle is great because this is 2D and no real damage is being done.
If it was about my idolfus I'd be really upset though.
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>>100428074
I want to go to her cafe and have her call me master.
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>>100428084
Matsuda is going to be unreliable the entire duration of the series. The fact that he was working for that snake of a woman in the first place speaks to his incompetency.
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>>100427829
So what's going on? Yamakan going to depict the idolfags who make up the main audience of this show as subhuman scum who make the idols suffer? Sounds like a more than risky business plan.
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>>100427949
Profit-centric and rampant exploitation are not mutually exclusive.

4/10 poll, would not vote again.
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>>100427949
Rampant exploitation whatever = more profits
Sex industry is fucking huge
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>>100428188
The idolfags were the otaku at the end who encouraged Miyu. The others were dirty old men.
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I had a boner through the first half of the episode. I felt a little bad afterwards.
Miyu best wug.
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>>100426096
>Miyu VA making cute gestures in the background

Confirmed for best girl, both 2D and 3D.
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>>100428158
But it's actually real with your, ah, idolfus.
They're all dirty sluts. Accept it.

Even if they're not pleasuring their managers, they lett their repressed sexually explode into nights of rampant sluttery every now and then.
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>>100427992
>girls be unhappy
I'm sure at the end they are all mindbroken and enjoy their status as meat toilets.
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>13 yr old

SAVING ANIME!
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>>100428246
This.
Shit's getting complex.
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>>100428312
And there is people who doesn't like this girl.
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I haven't seen it yet, but it seems I should fap before watching.
Trying to get through twenty minutes when you're all hot under the collar is agony.
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>>100428156
Japanese girls are culturally expected to be subservient to men, they aren't like western girls who scream rape every time a guy looks at them funny.
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>dat episode
>this reaction on 4chan and 2ch
Sasuga Yamakan. You're not our savior for no reason.
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>>100428188
So far the idolfags have been shown to generally be good people who managed to console Miyuu. Sudo-san was just a low level thug catering to normalfag perverted old men who clearly didn't give a shit about idols.
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>>100428312
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>>100428010
Update your chart with new info, please.
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My dick.
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>>100428375
She's a 'no fun allowed', spoiled brat..
At that young an age, it's especially aggravating.
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>>100426925
>Make them into a successful idol group

Because my girls deserve nothing but the best. I will chop heads to meet that end.
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>>100428289
Well I see you didn't actually watch the episode.
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Confirmed slut.
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>>100428067
There is nothing impure about going to hit that guy.

But she didn't, she endured it because if one of the girls went down, the whole job would go to shit, as it did later when with Miyuu.
She was thinking of everyone else, gotta set an example as the oldest and all that.
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Rather disappointed that every single one of them has the same hourglass body type.
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>>100428312
I want to hug her and tell her everything will be ok. In fact i want to do that to every one, i don't know who should i hug first.
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>Generic Moe stylized Anime
>2014 /a/'s AOTY
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>>100427241
Yamakan saving anime by shoving harsh reality in our faces. BASED.
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>>100428523
Moeh~
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>>100428492
The one who isn't used goods, OH WAIT-
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>>100428484
Anime artists can usually only draw one body type.
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>watch episode
>love it
>read thread
>everyone is fucking stupid it, both the people who like it and the people who don't

Still reading, but so far only one nigga gets it.
>>100425082
This. Emphasis on "caricature", since you retards keep throwing the word "realism" around for some reason.
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>>100428416
2ch's pretty much the same, right?
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>>100428123
>was already explained
It doesn't change the fact that was a failure. Even if the movie wasn't supposed to rake in a sufficient amount of cash and was just a vehicle to promote the show, the show's numbers are far from good. So in the end, there's no money coming in, just money going out. Big time. And now with the schedule problems, you can bet that Yamakan has to shed even more money in order to get more animators, just in order to not fall behind schedule and having to put the show on a hiatus until they catched up.
Under the current circumstances, even if there is a big fanbase, some might wait to see if it actually gets finished or if it maybe even ends up being cancelled halfway.
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>>100428188
This show is STILL about a dreams. It`ll show unsavory side, suffering, but in the end girls will be able to achive their dream - even if with bitter taste.
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>>100423808
>trigger warning

Do you like sucking cocks?
Or you are a fucking landwhale?
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>>100428523
You're not trying hard enough yet.
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>>100428426
Minami gif when?
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>Nyaruko-san OP
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Imagine their parents reaction when they find out what the girls were up to

Speaking of parents, it's weird that their parents would allow this shit to happen, right? I mean some girls in the anime are as young as 13, surely no sane parent would ever let their daughter go out into the idol industry without saying a word, right?
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>>100427472
Ah yes, the infamous JAV pool.
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>>100428547
I wouldn't want to tell them everything will be okay if there were not used goods.
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>>100428282
Some of them are, and others are as pure as it gets.
With a group with as many members we have all kinds of personalities.
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>>100428554
I want to rape Akari.
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Never have I felt as saved as I did watching the first half of this episode. Thank you, Yamakan.
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>>100428578
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>>100428484
It's the prettiest body type. What more do you want?
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>>100428584
Well, guess, there are girls less than 10 doing gravure shots.
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>>100428246
>>100428418
Wait until the episode where one of the girls gets married to her childhood friend and all the otaku go "DIE YOU SLUT" and burn all the merchandise and demand she retire from the group.
Gritty realism.
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>>100428584
In adding to the realism we're going to find out that the 13 year old's rich parents are neglectful and just let her do whatever she wants, which is why she's such a brat.
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This episode is so fucking glorious
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>>100428582
Sons of bitches was played on the first episode as well.
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>>100428582
What's with all the Nyaruko OPs in this show anyway?
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>>100428553
I want to see ANN reaction first and foremost. They rated 1st episode 4/5 and pretty much best thing that airs and deep anime for deep people like them.

I wonder if they`ll still be able to keep the face after 2nd episode or will go full berserk rage like with Garupan
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>>100428446
I'm not the anon who made that, I just did the pantsu analysis and it ended up getting included.

>>100428584
Tsunami-chan took care of most of their parents.
The real ones anyway, whether that carried over to the 2D Wake Up Girls have parents I've no idea.
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>>100428381
So any decent Japanses girl would be just a bit uncomfortable if their boss told them to strip to only underwear and serve dirty oldmen food?
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I'll participate in later threads. This one right now is full of shitposting, underage and edgy shits. See some of you later.
I loved the episode
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>>100428523
>hasn't watched it
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At least it was less QUALITY than the first episode.
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>>100428484
Show's massively behind schedule, they have only just finished episode 3 and Yamakan is begging publicly for animators to help him out. Don't expect too much, anon.
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>>100428603
Why can't women take pictures of themselves properly? She looks fucking hideous.
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Did Yamakan ever find animators? What is Yamakan doing?
Episode was fun and cute and lewd and cringe at the same time.
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>>100428719
Someone will actually believe this.
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>>100428546
This...this is prety lewd for Shindlers List episode
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>>100428523
DIE, HERETIC
This is the Evangelion of anime.
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>>100428661
If by first episode you mean the movie. There are apparently people watching the show who haven't seen it.
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>>100428611
This part was the best part, so much tension. A little more and they all would be on a gangrape orgy.
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I feel more saved with each episode. By the end of the show I might explode from all the saving.

Based Yamakan.
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>>100428777
You're right, I was mistaken.
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>>100428554
"Realism" is what Yamakan implied, not caricature. That's why people have been having a huge fights over that word.
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This was more fucked up than I could've ever imagined. Truly the Madoka Evangelion of Idolshit genre.

Too bad the animation is so bad, and it will probably only get worse...
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>>100428584
Why movie can tacle serios themese and plots, and anime cant? Thats one things Yamakan asked.

Why it would be normal for movie or TV show, but if its animated its breakthrough or travesty?
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So, I heard you're having fun here. Be a good citizen and follow me.
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Without doubt this episode confirmed Kaya as the one with the best body.
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>>100428841
>tacle serios themese
Jesus Christ anon, go to bed.
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>>100428645
I suggested it earlier. It would be ultimate " in your face' to otaku. Yamakan should also portray their rage in anime - all while same thing happens irl

Idoru no Video
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>>100428836
You didn't watch the first episode, didn't you? It had much worse animation. This one had decent quality compared to it.
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I felt so uncomfortable. Like I suspected a shoot with a shitty amateur photographer. Not this public humiliation
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>>100428312
>Encore!~ Encore!~
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>>100428764
It's known everywhere, unless you don't believe the lord and saviour himself.
>>100258527
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Is Toki-Doki x Baka-Chi any good?
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>tfw my WUG waifu has already been mindbroken

I'll heal her. ;_;
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>>100428936
>all while same thing happens irl
It would be glorious.
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>>100428960
Welcome to the dark side of the industry, anon.
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>>100428156
The sober tone and lack of erotic/comedic music and sound effects for one. Did you miss the tense, sad music playing as they whored themselves away?
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So I'm really fucking late to the party because of some history classes I'm taking, but man I find it funny that Minami is the only one that appears to enjoy it.

If my History of American Women teacher could just see me now.
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>>100428959

I didn't notice any obvious QUALITY issues in the first episode, though it was of course on much cheaper level than the movie. This one had some effort put into maido dancing and drawing chicks in bikinis, but the rest was really bad.
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See? It's not that hard to think pure thoughts.
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>Producer ever letting his girls take on a shitty job
Just from a business standpoint, man. You can't sell girls like that to the wota crowd. Cultivating the image is the most important part. I knew he was a scrub, but dammit man this is even before Aidoru 101.

I wonder how Yamakan will take this in the end. The first part makes you think it's overly critical, but he does balance it out in the end.
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>>100428830
I really doubt he's too hung up on that, unlike all the little shits blowing this out of proportion. The show clearly goes out of its way to portray the girls as flawed human beings as opposed to some model of perfection, and the industry they're getting into as a cesspool of exploitation. That's enough, comparatively, to call it realistic. It doesn't mean it's not a caricature, an exaggeration to get the point across, which it also clearly is. Insisting on this "NO WAY THAT WOULD REALLY HAPPEN" line of reasoning as if it can pass for legitimate criticism, or as if it even matters, is just proof of people's ineptness to understand and interpret what they're watching.
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>>100429140
She's so pure that she isn't even aware of the concept that is lewdness.
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>>100429140
>Minami is the only one that appears to enjoy it
I seriously think she has some brain problems.
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>>100429152
I expect more bad quality after episode 3 due to Yamakan team being tired and without decent amount of animators.
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>taking the two best girls with him
Nice taste Manager-san
>taking Nanami with him
Never mind.
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>>100428312
That looks beautiful.

Would rape.
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>>100429184
AKB48 actually started that way. They pandered hard to the wota/akihabara crowd and used them as their springboard for mainstream popularity. So it's realistic in that way.

I wish Manager-kun was a bit more competent though, like damn. I know he isn't used to being in charge but.
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>>100429239
Nanami was a bitch to Kaya this episode.
Worst girl isn't doing anything to get better.
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>>100429175
And thus the need for a reconsideration of everyone's purity.
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>>100429175
She looks familiar from that angle. I can't tell who but I swear I've seen her in another show before.
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>>100429281
Am I the only one who suspect Airi has a dark secret that heavily involves dicks?

Just look at her face in that picture. The memories of dicks are clearly seen in her eyes.
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>>100429290
I'm eagerly awaiting Nanami's episode where she proves she's actually best girl behind her worst girl cover.
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>>100429140
>Taking a History of American Women class

For what purpose?
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So yeah, was she to blame because she ran away and didn't get kiss and touch bye those old men? is that what this episode is telling us?

FUCK YOU JAPAN
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>>100429070
>Is Toki-Doki x Baka-Chi any good?

Yes, except perhaps for referring to Tange as 'Mr. President'.
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>>100429080
>that awkward smile everytime
>"nothing"

So broken ;_;
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If WUG was realistic, they'd start arguing with each other on whether to continue with this idol thing BEFORE the bikini performance.

It's not like all seven of them need the money THAT bad.
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>>100429429
Inb4 she's the non-virgin and left the old group because rape-issues.
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>>100429384
This is precisely the whole point. Idols has to put up with a lot of shit in the industry to gain status. And this show is going to show us how wrong this is and how rotten the industry is.
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>>100429131
The atmospheric setting is there, but not enough to convey the level of "realistic" discomfort the girls would have expressed.
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>>100429384
No, you're quiet clearly supposed to agree with her supporters not her self-doubt.
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>>100429430
Idols don't make that much money, girls do it because they want to be adored.

But to be adored you have to be subject to the desires of your audience, humiliated if need be, and this is the idoru conundrum
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>>100429430
They did.
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It's Episode 2 and the awkward sexual situations are in full swing.

Doesn't bode well for when they actually become famous.
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>>100429364
To the fill the void of any other history classes I am unable to take due to schedule issues. But, that isn't idol related and not my personal blog, so have a truck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e8IIMVTGJA
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>>100429384
>>100429496
uhmmm but nobody here was to blame, Sado-san just got a bit of a spank and the old shitty guys from that place were just the same way, the only one that change was the girls "suck it up" basically.
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>>100429556
Yet they all wore the damn things and performed.

What made Miyu want to quit was the kissu job.
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>>100429288
AKB48 panders hard. The difference is though, Akimoto Yasushi knows his shit and doesn't go too far in the pandering. They're like a maid cafe in that they pander super hard, but make sure first and foremost to take care of the girls. By that I mean things like their security and making sure not to overstep any personal lines. If someone manhandles an AKB idol, he's getting thrown the fuck and some wota are probably going to chase him down later.

The furthest they have ever gone I think would probably be the thing with Ohori Megumi, but I'd say that's a special case too because she had a bit of a different character if you know what I mean. I guess it comes down to the fact that we don't have an Akimoto-P with decades of experience at the helm right now, but still man.
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how the hell would that not be considered pedophilia? a bunch of drunk old men oggling a bunch of underage girls. plus that one guy was going to kiss one of them. disgusting
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This plot sure is super interesting.
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>>100429430
No, they wouldn't. You have too much of a Western mentality. Dressing teenage girls in bikinis and making them do weird (often sexually ambiguous) things happen all the time in Idol Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnKko-QZunI

The bikini-wearing girls are usually +16 though while Nanami/Minami are under that. Then again this is a private event so you can do whatever you want.
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>>100429743
Japan.
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>>100428884
DES, pls
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>>100429140
Innocence is Scary

http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Mujaki-no-Rakuen
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>>100429770
Hey /a/, don't check the episode, name the asses. Can you recognize your idols only by their ass?
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>>100429743
Stop projecting your western pig values onto grorious nippon
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>>100429184
Aidoru 101 rule 1 says - Scandals is the most important thing in showbiz
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>>100429779
>not knowing there are child gravure stars
There's even a 13 year old famous for having big tits.
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I eagerly await the semen handshaking part with their fans in latter episodes when they finally become famous.

Don't disappoint me Yamakan.
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>>100429211
No, just past full of suffering and trying to hide her desperation behind a mask.
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>>100429393
Thanks. I don't mind minor stuff as long as I don't have to watch HS.
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>>100428915
stitches, when?!
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Does this really look like the face of a slut? Really guys?
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>>100429651
>a bit of a spank

Although his glass lenses seem impressively shatterproof.
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>>100429856
I don't even remember their names yet.
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>>100429509
The focus of the scene was on their discomfort, and the point was well conveyed. That's the only thing that matters. Saying it could have been done in a more heavy tone or more "realistic" tone doesn't really matter.
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>>100429704
The early AKBINGO episodes come to mind where they made the girls do, well, quite pervy things that they wouldn't do in today's AKBINGO since they're mainstream now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAJchH5tieU
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So which one will be caught having a boyfriend and shave her head for atonement?
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>>100429184
He didn't even know who the first center of not-AKB was. He clearly doesn't know shit about the idol industry.
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>>100429193
> fans see the underwear food service show and ass touching as exaggeration to get the point across.
> detractors see it as poorly handled supposedly "realistic" scenes, especially on the girls' reactions. Or a blatant attempt at fanservice to attract attention to sell more disc.
Both can agree to disagree for now
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>>100429856
That pink skin on the left is Minami, that flat ass next to her has to be 13 years old, nothing stands out about the next one, so it's probably Airi, and last is Mayu, who they always stick in the middle.

So no, I can't name them by their ass alone, not yet.
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>>100429184
He wasn't a real producer he was just some thug who was apparently known for taking advantage of naive girls wanting to make it in the entertainment business to make some quick cash from dirty old men.
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>>100429908
I was referring to idols but you're right, gravure is a whole other ballgame. I've seen elementary school girl gravure, I mean, seriously? Damn Japan.
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>>100429743
it's normal in Japan you stupid faggot
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>>100429779
>Dressing teenage girls in bikinis and making them do weird (often sexually ambiguous) things happen all the time in Idol Japan.
Yes, and? WUG have been doing something they actually didn't want to, except Kaya who has no job.

Call it "lack of resolve" if you want.
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>>100429912
>the semen handshaking part
Stop reading Sankaku.
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>people actually think stuff like this doesn't happen in the idol business especially with idols just starting out
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>>100429743
>drunk old men oggling a bunch of underage girls
That's basically you
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That was painful to watch. This is Aku no Hana-tier in terms of atmosphere already.
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too bad they aren't color coded, now I have to learn their names fast
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>>100429951
Not possible, she's moving during the shot.
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>>100429996
Mostly for a laugh, though. It's mostly just seeing them freak out in an uncomfortable situation. You can definitely argue that they don't WANT the girls to comply in this case.

Well, you do have a bit of a point in that they don't do that segment anymore. It's pretty benign though, compared to what happened today.
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>>100430143
You don't seem to understand. When a Japanese girl grows up she doesn't dream of doing these things. They're just accepted parts of their job description, the same way the WUG girls reluctantly accept it. That's why they don't make a fuss BEFORE the performance. It's typical Japanese mentality. It can't be helped. Only when they reach their breaking point (like Miyu) do they actually do something.
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>>100430146
>implying it's not true
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You're their fucking manager and you didn't even discuss pay?!
Goddamn it Matsuda!

If this were a military outfit he'd deserve to be fragged
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>>100429912
I woudnt put it past Yamakan.

>>100430146
Because it does not happen, right?
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>>100429981
No, it does not matter to you because you feel that it's well conveyed. I don't feel the same because I don't think it's enough to bring my sympathy to the girls. So this is just the matter of you thinking it's fine while I disagree.
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Damn the idolfags in the meido club were pretty cheery
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>>100430175
But they're 2D.
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MATSUDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Accompanying pic because I'm a retard
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>>100430378
Smart move manager
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>>100430271
You're right, and it is kinda funny but it says something when they don't do it anymore. I'm also reminded of that big bald fat guy whose butt kept coming closer and closer to the girl.
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>>100430304
You have a point in saying that it might not have been well conveyed in the sense that your weren't moved by the scene, but what I meant well conveyed was that the main focus of the scene was unequivocally their discomfort, which is by itself enough to make it different from a fanservice anime.
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Fucking Matsuda, I actually liked him in the movie/first episode. I knew he would stumble, but he acted like a complete retard.

The first half of this episode made me so uncomfortable I could barely finish it. Yamakan truly is saving anime.
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Fucking shit I"m rooting for you but fucking hell you're making it hard matsuda!
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>>100429856
Left is Minami. The skin color gives her away.
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Miyu went from second worst to joint best in one episode.
As expected of Yamakan.
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>>100426096
I just came to that.
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>>100430522
You know there were already some WUG threads right?
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>>100430516
Well he at least tried to stop, Suda-san's logical arguments of 'not-AKB wear bikinis for photoshotos' was just too much for him.
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>>100430271
>It's pretty benign though, compared to what happened today.
Because the show is supposed to be an exaggeration, not a super realistic portrait of the industry.
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>>100425886
This
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>>100430636
Even he knew what they were doing was not nearly on the same level, especially for the girls' wellbeing.

What really gets me is he didn't even know the pay or anything about the contract. He absolutely failed to do basic shit.
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>>100430553
She was the best in the first episode.
You need some more perception points.
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>>100430304
>I don't think it's enough to bring my sympathy to the girls
I think you're just dead inside.
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>>100429969
the situation was comical, the audience didn't feel he did anything wrong, just a small prank...
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>>100430992
SJW pls go. How you can miss the point by such a margin is beyond me.
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>>100430424
> main focus of the scene was unequivocally their discomfort.
Lackluster discomfort is also a fetish of people watching fan-service anime. If the statement is not strong enough with "NO, THIS IS WRONG," people will still think the fan-service is acceptable and continue to post crouch and panties shots.

If Yamakan is doing a social commentary show about idol, doing it half-ass is the best I can give him credit with. Otherwise, this is just a hack job to get money from Otaku lusting for fanservice while shitting on them at the same time to make him look like the "savior" of anime who has never been one in the first place.
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What's this bitch's problem?

She is the most selfish one in the entire group.
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>>100431076
>people will still think the fan-service is acceptable and continue to post crouch and panties shots.
They will anyway. Do you think there's some level of discomfort which wouldn't have made at least a couple of dudes horny? Or are you saying he should've shoved the message on our collective faces, making the scene preachy instead of disconcerting?
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>>100431256
Fuck you, I'm in love with her.
She's perfect.
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>>100430378
Confirmed gutless wonder 2014.
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>>100431256
She's not a slut in a group that wants to whore themselves out to old men.
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>>100431256
Sasuga worst girl, you manage to become even more unlikeable by the minute. She's really only good for anal sex.
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>>100431256
She's just not a pushover.
She's wonderful.
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>>100431076
I'll let the savior answer for himself.
>18:54:26 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> And one thing that I recently tweeted about and this is something that hayao miyazaki once said, and i go back to him, and he once said that anime has become instrument in the sex industry
>18:56:11 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> what i'm feeling today is that it's important for anime to entertain the audience, but it cannot be a slave to only that, but then you lose the theme and you lose the messages you want to incorporate into your works
>18:56:44 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> right now the voice of the audience is too overbearing on the internet to the point that creators fear and obey
>18:56:38 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> and that kind of servitude really takes the (lost) out of anijme
>18:57:07 <bay|NDK|Yamakan> but i also conclude that creators cannot only do a one way imposition either, i think one way communication is an outdate concept in the modern world
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>>100431447
Nobody there wanted to exposed their bodies. She not only implicitly called everybody a whore for wanting to finish the job, i.e. failed to realize she wasn't the only one feeling uncomfortable, but she also wanted to leave their supposed co-workers to deal the problem by themselves just because she wanted to see herself free of the responsibility.
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>>100431418
>>100431447
>>100431519
She's a self-centered bitch. If she was wonderful, she would've suggested they all bail instead of taking it out on her teammates who were thinking of the group first.
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>>100431782
She's also 13 and the most immature, but yeah
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>>100431782
>She's a self-centered bitch
Ans she'll be the first one to get a solo album.
Because that's business.
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>>100431856
>She's also 13
Yes.
>the most immature
That would probably be Minami. And she's a much nicer girl than Nanami.
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>>100431877
It would actually be really cool if she broke up with the band and went solo.
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>skipped the idol dance part
fucking Yamakan
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>>100431366
> making the scene preachy instead of disconcerting?
Why do you think a heavier emphasis would make the show more preachy? What's matter is in the executing and better directors have done it with different messages. And if it does feel too harsh on otaku, at last they can appreciate Yamakan's consistency and courage. A light touch that people can just feel a bit discomfort and move on does not "save" or change anything. Yamakan's company will still sell figure of these underwear idols to get a lot of money. Nothing will change as with Yamakan's hypocrisy.
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>>100431949
She doesn't have to separate to make a solo project, all the iM@S girls have their own solo albums.
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>>100431990
The more I read, the more it seems nothing would've pleased you and you're just one of those people with a personal vendetta against him.

Do you have any concrete suggestions as to how you would've made the scene different?
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>>100431987
Beats playing the same song and using the same dance routine in every single fucking episode like certain other idol anime.
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>>100432044
But her separating is the best part.
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>>100432419
No, Nanami is love.
I wish her the best.
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>>100432286
b-but bikinis!
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>>100432419
Verty just has a fetish for bitches.



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