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How long did it take for you to learn japanese /a/non ?
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I'm averaging ~100 kanji a month so far, and that's by doing it in the most unintuitive way imaginable.

But I'm only ~3 months in.
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I've been learning for 5 years
I can hold a conversation but there's so many Kanji that you need to know to read manga/read VN's
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>>100417844

Half a year
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>>100418359
>5 years
...I seriously hope you meant to say months because if it took you so long and you don't even know the Jouyou kanji yet, you might be clinically retarded.
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>>100418534
I started in year 9 in high school,
I've slowed down since I left high school
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I didn't even start.
Why would you want to learn such a useless language?
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>>100418800

Raw Anime, Raw Manga Raw and Visual Novel.

That's why i spent half a year learning it in my spare time, worth it all things considered.
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Can't be arsed.
Since for some reason I've mastered English with little to no effort, I've become a bit a perfectionist when it comes to learning languages, so I won't even bother because I know I'll never be able to speak it at native level like I do with English.
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>>100419088
Nice defeatist attitude there shitlord.
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>>100417844
I'm on my third day
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I got depressed somewhere between 500 and 600 kanji and haven't done my reps in like 4 months. Maybe in the next life I'll get it.
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>>100419290
Whenever I'm reading a book in English and I find a word I don't know and can't make out its meaning from context I flip my shit and grab the closest device with internet access to google it.
Imagine how that would work out with moon.
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>>100419290
> shitlord
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>>100417844
I'm confident that after enough years reading japanese content on the internet with Rikaisama I'll have mastered japanese in 10 years or so.
Now if some software could help do the same as Rikaisama but for pictures I'm pretty sure I'd be finished in 1 years or less thanks to intensive raw manga reading.
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I'm learning German. I don't even know why.
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>>100419810
Na dann viel Glück. Viel Spaß mit den Fällen.
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>>100419810
For the next hitler?
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>>100419810
Duits is een goede basis om een andere Germaanse taal te leren
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I didn't learn it at all.
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>>100419922
Fuck man, every time people start speaking a European language out of nowhere I feel like I've become retarded and forgotten how to read for a few seconds before I realize it's not English.
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I can read hiragana and katakana, but that's it.
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>>100419922
First time I use the detect language function on google translation.
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>>100420039
[spoile]Maybe it is English, and you are retarded[/spoiler:lit]
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>>100419922
It's weird how easy it is to understand Dutch.
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>>100420039
C'est pas grave mec. Ça arrive à tout le monde.
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>>100420213
At least I'm not too dumb for hotkeys.
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>>100420213

Nice job Idiot.
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>>100420289
>>100420322
I'm just tired.
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>>100419853
I have two years of ancient Greek under my belt, can't be worse than that.
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I gived up, the mexiweebs,SAO and SnK fags, the girls cosplaying in class screaming KAWAAEEE every now and then were really annoying so far i lasted 2 days,i still remember the "Why i am doing this" face from the teacher the first class.
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>>100420455
>Greek under my belt
Oh myyyyyyy
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>>100418359

Maybe you should try turning your focus specifically towards learning kanji.

I recommend kanjidamage. Focus on associating the character with the English keyword so that the character becomes familiar for now (barring cases where there's a Japanese word that you know to hook it into, of course), and save learning the readings for the actual reading.


>>100418800

>learn a language that opens up all sorts of avenues to thousands of hours of enjoyment related to my hobbies that were previously closed to me; also, enhances my enjoyment of avenues that were previously open but filtered by translation (you'd be surprised at the amount of liberties that even the most faithful of translators are forced to take in order to translate the rough meaning behind an exchange in Japanese into English)
>instead of whining and begging for a translation like everybody else and then waiting a year once it gets announced, I can just consume it in its raw form
>potential future bilingual employment is there as a bonus, but even if it never happens, I won't have wasted my time with nothing to show for my efforts except for a bit of a deeper understanding of their culture
>this is a useless endeavor

>millions of people learn the basics of a "useful" foreign language that they have no incentive to use, thinking "this might be useful someday"
>never use it
>since they're unmotivated, four years of study only gives them babby-tier knowledge
>forget all but maybe 1% of the already meager level of knowledge that they learned over the next 20 years
>this is useful
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I took a semester at school, but I forgot everything except vocab and basic grammar. Can barely remember any Kana and almost no Kanji. Come at me
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I have no self discipline and have been stuck at an estimate of ~500-600 kanji for the past year.
I've mostly resigned it to reading doujins like pic related.

I'd love to really pick it up again, but I need some kind of structure to learn it.
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I started last summer, and I gave up when I got sick about 2 weeks after I started. I'll start again before the end of the month. I guess kanji will have to be from scratch, instead of continuing where I left off.
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Wow you guys sure are pathetic. I already knew that of course but I felt it needed to be stated.
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>>100420838
American detected. Learning another language too difficult for you?
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>>100419538

You'd look up the word by the kanji's radicals.
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All I do is watch anime, so learning characters would be pretty much useless. I figure if I just keep watching anime I'll have learned enough to watch my anime raw in about 5 years or so.
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>>100421037
Projecting much? Not everyone is so retarded an unmotivated that they can't finish what they start.

>BAWWWW MUH KANJI TOO HARD
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>>100420623
>Can barely remember any Kana
How? Katakana at least is so easy to practice I can't imagine forgetting it anytime soon.
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>>100418800
The only truly useful language is English. Every other language is either largely relegated to a country or two, or spoken by sand/jungle people.
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>>100421350
It was nearly 3 years ago and I smoke weed and drink. A lot.
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>>100421145
Keep thinking that. Maybe you'll be able to watch something like precure raw in 5 years, or anything with lots of basic words.
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I just got home from class, actually. The people in these classes are exactly what I expected from stories on /a/. Some girl showed up today in full dog ears and tail, and another dude in class has the teacher to call him "Kazu" even though he's a white neckbeard. How long does it take these people to drop out?
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>>100421546
You think you had it bad? There was a black girl in my class who would wear seifuku and sometimes cat ears. It was horrifying. There also a girl who would wear Pokemon and fox shirts.
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A friendly reminder from the DJT: If you learn less than 10 kanji a day, don't use Anki, and take Japanese classes, you are retarded and will never learn Japanese.
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>>100421546
>>100421660
this is the true test of taking a japanese course; keeping yourself from dropping out before the obnoxious weaboos do
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>>100421546
In my Nipspeak class, some furry showed up on Halloween in his full fucking German Shepard costume. Girls where taking pictures with him out in the hallway, it was unreal.
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>>100421546
Atleast you dont had a Narufag screaming all over you about his SUPERIOR ANIME and that you had shit taste because your favorite anime was kiss x siss.
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>>100421546

[ ] Drop the class and study on your own
[ ] Study on your own beyond the scope of your classes (don't wait; leave /a/ and start right now, and do it every day from now on, and don't limit yourself to what you've learned in class; be ambitious); aim to read manga targeted towards young readers within 3 months
[ ] Enjoy moving at a snail's pace and waiting 4 years to pass the JLPT N2 (the lack of substantial progress to show for months worth the work is likely to destroy your motivation) where motivated self-studiers are passing the N1 within 1 to 1.5 years

Pick one.
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>>100421678
A friendly reminder from people that aren't mindless idiots

DJT sucks at Japanese
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I want to learn it, at least want to be able to speak it. Learning to read it seems to be too much of a hassle.

Knowing myself though as a lazy shit it probably won't happen.
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>>100421771
But anon, that IS shit taste...
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>>100421771
>favorite anime
>kiss x sis
I'm sorry anon, I think he might have been right.
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>>100421827
> leave /a/
It's hard anon
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>>100421678
that's not very friendly
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Still learning.
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>>100421854
>>100421891
It was 2011, leave me alone.

What is wrong whit captcha? they are harded or im going more retarded?.
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>>100421771
>favorite anime
>kiss x sis

god fucking shit kill yourself
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>>100421900
This. You guys are my friends!
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>>100421834
では試してみよー
貴様はそんなにぺらぺらなら自分のお勧めの勉強方法を詳しく教えてくれませんか
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>>100421995
Retarded*
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After half a year I know most of hiragana and a few kanji.
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>>100420249
Non pas tout le monde, si t'as un cerveau c'est pas le cas généralement.

>>100417844
I'm a few month in, progressing very slowly. Using Rosetta Stone for the moment.
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Nice anime thread

>>100421771
>Revealing your powerlevel
You're just as bad as this guy.
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>>100419922
>nederpoop
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>>100422062
didn't bother with katakana eh?
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>I just started my first semester of class!
>After months of study, I know kana! Well, a little under half of them...
>I can't! It's too intimidating.
>I'll learn by watching anime.

Goddamn, this thread is depressing. It's like a comedy skit in here, except the joke is real life.
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>>100422294
Who decided after inventing one syllabary that they needed another one covering the exact same syllables but with different symbols to transcribe baka gaijin words, and why?
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>>100421834
>>100422035
やっぱ返事無しかね
無知の癖に他人を罵るとはな
いい加減恥をしれ馬鹿野郎
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It took my 6 months to understand Sugoi.
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>>100418800
This your better off learning Mandarin.
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>>100422533

Katakana is used to show that words are distorted from normal Japanese somehow.

Yelling, whispering, unnatural voice, baka gaijin words, etc.
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2 years.

1 year accelerated Japanese courses so I took the first year's worth over the summer, then a regular year for the 2 year's courses. Then a year NEET playing raw nukige for 3 hours a day minimum, every single day.

Now I'm a freelance translator.
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>>100417844
Years ago I had a list with all the kanji because I wanted to see how were the japanese "words", I looked at them, my brain couldn't make sense out of them, I saw draws but not words, I gave up.
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>>100420512
Self study brah
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>>100423754

Have you tried kanjidamage?
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>>100422533
Do you even racism?
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>>100419088
>I've become a bit a perfectionist
Using '
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>>100423919
No, I will check it now.
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>>100423754
Enjoy your PSTD.
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OP here, any mangos recommended for me? I'm still learning hira and kata.

>>100424200
[Desire to learn japanese decreases]

Note - I'm a fast learner but lazy as fuck, worst combo ever.
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>>100424200
Eugh, I really should just take a month and practice my kanji + writing skills, but as long as I have the internet kanji doesn't slow me down too much.

Someday.
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>>100424523
Someday...
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I'm five days into Pimsleur's.

Also
>Learning to reading before you can speak.
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>>100423919

* Kanji are built from a set of a radicals. If it'll help some people ITT get more comfortable with the idea of kanji, I'll give an example of how a "complicated" kanji is constructed.

人 - person
土 - earth
上 - up
走る - run (combine the above)

刀 - sword
口 - mouth
召す - summon (combine the above)

超 - exceed (combine 走 with 召)
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九年前から、勉強して始めた。もう下手。

本当に無駄にしてる人間、私。

なぜ何もしてみる。死んだほうがいいかも。
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>>100422127
>Rosetta Stone
Well no wonder you're progressing slowly.
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>>100424578

>learning unassisted listening before assisted listening
>not wanting to be literate as soon as possible, especially when your primary goal is to consume media
>expecting to carry on any sort of meaningful conversation when you're illiterate
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>>100424500

When you get a bit better, you can play Pokemon X in Jap, and you can choose between Kanji and Hiragana and chane t any any time. I'm through one of my playthroughs in Jap and already it only took me an hour to breed a perfect IV pokemon and I caught two shinies. I've been playing since red/blue and never caught a shiny outside of red gyarados. Fucking racist japs.

I don't know if it's in the regular hardware or if its because I downloaded the game. You might need to download t to get the language options. Any game with hardware I've purchased only let's me pick the four languages on the NA DS (English, Portuguese, French, etc)
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>>100424789
What is the best for studying japanese? There are no nearby classes in my place.

What's with these hard captchas?
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>>100424986
>What is the best for studying japanese?

The DJT.
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i don't have the patience to learn it, or any other language
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>>100424986
Go to the DJT and use their ressources.
It's pointless going to classes, much better to go at your own pace. You can buy books to learn kanji though, if it motivates you more.
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>>100424986

Grammar - Genki or http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/

Vocab - core 2k/6k anki deck

Kanji - Kanjidamage or Heisig anki deck

And then putting it to use with reading.


>>100425029

DJT is too busy having autismal in-fighting to be useful.

/int/ Japanese threads are bro-tier, though.

Please don't shit up the /int/ threads by behaving like an autist.
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>>100425328
>DJT is too busy having autismal in-fighting to be useful.

The resources the DJT offers are plenty, the discussion in the threads themselves shouldn't bother you. Also it's actually helpful whenever you ask a question that isn't immediately answerable by google (which basically never happens)
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I learned like 500 kanji but eventually gave up because it took up more time than I had. I probably remember less than 100, at least I'll never forget hiragana and katakana.

Maybe I'll try again when I'm done with college.
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>>100425318
>>100425328
Scanned on the DJT, I like to read mangos and I saw that yotsuba is listed on the basic. That means I can "sharpen" my japanese while reading that right?
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MODS=FAGS, why they even delete the thread.
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Looks like Inspector Redwood woke up



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