Which resolution do you personally prefer for storing your anime series, 720p or 1080p? Why?
My shitty laptop can't play 1080p without stuttering.
I generally download them in 720p, because the size difference is huge and not every series has been digitally developed for 1080p.
Daiz, Hi10p etc.
720p for airing shows and 1080p for BDs.
Size, portability, more likely to run well on a given device.
Tbh, I can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080 most of the time.
In my day the question was Real Media or .AVI, so it's like... everyone is so spoiled now that it's ridiculous.
This. 1080p TV rips aren't worth the size.
>Tbh, I can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080 most of the time.
That's probably because most of the time there is no difference.
This, even if 1080p BDs are still an upscale.
TV Shows at 720p (unless they are mastered at 900p/1080p)
1080p on my television.
720p everywhere else; I can't really tell the difference on a small screen.
1080p obviously, though I delete them after I finish them, takes too much space on the hd
1080 for Movies and most OVAs, 720 for most TV shows unless they where done in 1080 or close to it.
720p for BD rips or TV
1080p for cel/film, movies, etc.
720 for TV
1080 for BD
720p is fine. a good 90% of anime is in 720p and the 1080 is just an upscaling. I will do 1080p for movies though simply because finding a 720p rip is harder to find for movies, plus movies tend to have a way higher budget so the attention to detail is worth the higher file size
720p for shows,
1080p for movies.
I don't know a single good reason to download shows in 1080p, except if they are actually mastered in 1080p (which most of them aren't).
720, most 1080 is just upscales.
Good/favorite anime: 720p
Average/mediocre anime: 480p
Utter crap anime: 360p
720p, unless it's genuine 1080p. From my regular viewing distance, I can't really tell the difference between 720p < x < 1080p shows.
1080p for one cour/movies
720 for two cour
480 for four cour or longer
As most have already said:
-720p for airing shows, BD rips and storing anime series
-1080p for movies/ovas
Might think to use 1080p for BD rips too, but most of the time those are still 720p upscales, so the extra file size it's not worth it.
1080p for blurays. The 720p versions are downscales.
Even if you say the video was not digitally worked on at 1920x1080, which is not universally true like some people think, the fact is the video on the bluray is 1920x1080. The studio scaling to 1080p period, is better than the studio scaling to 1080p and then someone else scaling again to 720p.
>The studio scaling to 1080p period, is better than the studio scaling to 1080p and then someone else scaling again to 720p.
Not always. When the studio uses something like bilinear to upscale the video the encoder can use debilinear to downscale it and then you can use a decent scaling algorithm during playback to get a better result.
Studios tend to do shitty job at scaling. There are even filters to reverse it, like debilinear, and you can get superior quality to original when upscaling video treated in such way with high quality scalers.
You don't know what the studio uses.
I disagree it's going to come out higher quality. Perhaps similar quality to the point where it doesn't matter, but not higher quality.
720p because 1080p is usually upscaled.
720p because the size difference is ridiculous for little to no video quality improvement.
>720p for airing and BDs of TV anime, 1080p for BDs of anime movies.
1080p because it makes rampant 3dcg less pd.
480 because I'm not daft, my chinese girl cartoons look the exact same in 480 or higher
hell I think some of them are stored in 288p
How do you even find out if it's an upscale or if it really was mastered in 1080p?
By using your eyes.
You open it in notepad.
Having eyes helps you a lot.
get nyaruko-san w n native 1080p and I'll guarantee you, you'll notice the difference in the first second.
720 because I can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080.
1080 when I know something is art porn.
At first everyone's like "I can't really tell the difference" and now you're telling me to use my eyes? Is it _that_ different?
Anyone has that jap site that analyzes the video to see what resolution it was mastered at?
People can't tell the difference because most of the time there is no difference. And if you can't tell the difference then why does it matter why you can't? Just get the 720p releases.
Its one of those things you can only notice when you know what you're looking for, but when you do, it's really obvious.
I look on anibin in what resolution the anime I want to download was created in and download it in that resolution.
I have a 10 minute uncompressed clip from adventure time which is over 700 megs mixed in with episodes that are 10 mins and under 50 megs
guess which one is pretty
>480 because I'm not daft
I beg to differ.
The point is that most of the time between 720p and 1080p there is no difference because of the upscale. There's nothing to see there
But once you see something actually made in 1080p, you'll be able to see that upscales are just 720p that take up more room on your screen
don't listen to the cancer of encoding. He exclusively watches animu on 40 inch outdated panasonic display fucking bald fuck
1080p because 3TB HDDs barely cost anything.
Yeah, but I wouldn't like to download both 720p and 1080p releases just to compare them. Is there a quick way to find out?
>those people who have 720p monitors and download the 1080p HS releases
720p for almost everything
1080p for movies and Kyoani shows
You don't have to download the entire release, just one episode for comparison.
That's me! I always tell myself it's for if I decide to output to my TV
guess which one is upscaled
You can get a bunch of similar from Nyaruko, just google it.
Using 3D is cheating.
This is from the first season, the first season's BD release wasn't on native 1080p so there barely is any difference. I looked at this picture at first as well and once I got to nyaruko-san w (second season) I instantly noticed the difference.
>Le epik streaming bait
There's no difference there
480. Fuck the police.
Quite often the encoder and his filter chain cause more differences between releases than 720p vs 1080p.
Yes there is. Look at Nyaruko's eyes.
Fair enough, I'm bored so I'll see if I can find a season 2 screenshot.
>There's no difference there
you fool theres text
Only S2 was 1080p.
I'll post a comparison once I'm done downloading.
Here, picture of S1 upscaled to 1080 and a picture of S2
Anything above 240p is a marketing gimmick.
How exactly do you find out if something is native 1080p?
>Didn't even read the thread
You're comparing apples and oranges there.
Read the thread.
Fucking two black spot takes a century to post now. Thanks for the replies.
What's with this awful banding?
You can actually see the difference in the character outlines between seasons.
Of course we don't know what filters the encoder used.
1080p is just upscaled 720p 95% of the time
the only show ever made in 1080p was Nyaruko W2
Holy shit downloading NW in 1080p right now
Here's a comparison between Underwater-FFF's Saki Achiga-hen BD releases: http://check2pic.ru/compare/34427/
The differences are pretty marginal at best and not something you're likely to notice while watching. It's pretty much the same for most BD releases, though shows being produced at resolutions over 720p are becoming more common these days.
720p for TV/WEB-DL
1080p for BDRips since even if they are upscales, have the bitrate to justify it
720p for recent shows, 1080p for Blurays of older cel-based shows, and movies in general.
That was 900p.
What is this?
If I transcode a 128 kbit/s mp3 to FLAC, the bitrate will justify it, right?
1080p looks a bit better but, yeah, not something you'll probably notice while watching.
Yeah yeah I read that, I don't know what the images mean.
Seems I missed a word sorry. I am talking about the extremely difficult captchas that have two black spots.
Yeah, this one is a good comparison. If you know what you're looking at, you will notice the difference. Other than that, not really.
Oh boo hoo, stop whining about captcha, no one wants to hear it
Is it so hard to just refresh the captcha?
Movies and series (both TV and BD) at 720p. Creditless OP and ED at 1080p for my own autistic reason.
Some some fancy image analysis graphs.
All you really need to pay attention is the last line of the header.
But if we are talking archiving here, most of this discussion seems to be about upscales where the 720p shows improvement but the 1080p gives diminishing results where the 300-800mb extra isn't worth it (although this "worth" does not relate to storage price since that is cheap). When we go into UHD, will the 1080p upscale look better than the 720p upscale? Every Pixel in the 1080p version will be expanded 4 times and even worse in the 720p version
Does .mkv suffer from rotational velocidensity?
I prefer the native mastering resolution if possible.
Sometimes the available encode for a given resolution is crap and you have to be pragmatic or there is no match and you're on your own, but most of the time this site is essential.
Everything suffers from rotational velocidensity, FLAC is the only salvation.
720p for shows.
1080p for movies or BDs of shows done natively in 1080p.
Yup that works
I think you need to get your eyes checked if those are hard for you.
The captchas are fucking ridicolously hard and impossible.
I wish people complained more because it's getting ridicolous. The same shit happening here: >>100420974 has been happening to me a lot too.
Have you had those captchas dickbag? They're fucking hard. You have to get them with 100% accuracy too.
>Have you had those captchas
Everyone has. Go make a captcha thread somewhere else if it bothers you so much.
720p, because size and 1080p doesn't seem different/worth it.
I don't see the issue.
>You have to get them with 100% accuracy too
>he still doesn't know how to get around captcha
Remember, don't use bot like behavior, and you get easier capcha
How do I read the pictures there?
if you read the thread, you'd realize someone already answered that question
Between 720 and 1080p it doesn't matter much for me since I delete the file afterwards.
Normal captchas you only have to type one and not even that one has to be 100% accurate.
These are different. That is why people are complaining. You need to type both of them with 100% accuracy.
He hasn't: >>100421240
Yeah I'm not buying a 4chan jewt pass. I have to ban evade a lot too.
I once got a captcha where one of the words was actually a picture of a number on a door or something, and it looked like some creepy ass security cam screencap or something. WTF moot
720x400 - I call this "720p" as in Progressive Scan. I go by horizontal resolution, not vertical.
I nevert get these inkspot capcha.
Could this be country based?
my tv is 1366x768
so 720 is fine
clear your google cookies and fill out both words properly. if you trip their bot detection they'll make them harder and harder. if you do it properly you get numbers or easy words.
>have a 1440p monitor
>upgrade to 2160p soon
It's all upscales anyway to me.
People complain about captchas all the time. If you've ever seen a thread where moot posts, one of the first replies is usually about captchas seeming harder than before. He then responds with the fact that he doesn't choose which captchas we get or not, he even put it up as an announcement before.
Honestly, the only captchas I even have trouble with are those shitty ones where you get nothing but a long string of numbers.
I'm also European, I used to get those unreadable captchas because I didn't have jewgle cookie's tracking me.
To get the simple captchas you just have to log in your google account.
So, in short: you can't post on 4chan without google knowing everything you do.
what is the point of 1080p HS? its just a 720p rip upscale
I don't have a google account though.
I never register to any social shit.
I never said it was Moot's fault.
A lot of people are complaining directly to google too. More people complaining regardless of where it is means it's more likely for google to stop.
>nothing but a long string of numbers.
those actually are supposed to be the easy ones
CR doesn't upscale. If the show is produced at over 720p, their 1080p will have more details than fansubs as well.
720p for currently airing and 1080p for bd's and backlogs.
1440p 27" pc monitor
1080p 42" TV
A Youtube account is a Google account.
i don't have a google account and i'm getting easy captchas
Well, rather than trouble it's just that they're annoying. It takes me more time to put in those numbers than a regular captcha.
Here you go guys, 1080p done properly.
Note that there is three pictures, as the first one isn't instantly noticeable.
Sometimes I'd send 5 minutes trying to get through the captchas. Every time I get it wrong I can hear moots voice in my head laughing jewishly and he tells me to buy a 4chan pass.
what shows are produced in over 720p? i remember seeing something few seasons ago made in 900p and something done in 476p
That awful banding.
720 because most anime is just upscale.
720p for series, 1080p for KyoAni and movies
Not many shows are produced over 720p though, so most of HS 1080p rips are upscales.
They are 2D-FFT magnitude spectrums. More or less they are showing how small you can shrink a screenshot of an anime before you lose actual detail (usually meaning the character outlines become less sharp).
Look at the long comment on this blog post if you want to know how to actually create them: http://ultimatemegax.wordpress.com/2012/11/28/animation-quality-and-anibin/#comment-1079
Look at this poorfag, holy shit.
>I have to ban evade a lot too.
So what? It's not like moot uses the pass to track your bans or anything.
And if he did, you can just buy a new one every time you get banned!
Meant to quote >>100421770
Oh wow. Yeah, huge difference.
Do you happen to have the native 720 version?
>It's not like moot uses the pass to track your bans or anything.
Should I tell him?
720p/480p for almost <2013 since only a few works are really 1080p, those of course in 1080p
Plenty. Full 1080p is very rare but there are often parts (OP/ED/random objects) at over 720p.
The new Rozen Maiden for example was (close to) full 1080p.
Don't have this either.
The only site I ever registered too are ones to download game mods and torrent tracker.
That's quite useful, thank you very much.
I'll make a comparison, however, the native 720p will obviously be smaller otherwise it'd only be stretching if that's what you want.
I guess if you want to see the difference between upscaled 720 and native 720 on a 1080p monitor, I can do that in a minute for you.
yes, that was my intention.
got no 1080p monitor ;-;
Time to download Haiyore, I guess.
I don't think you know how to use that image. How was that an iceburn to me?
Kyoani may not make anything I find interesting enough to watch, but I am still convinced they're the best animators in the business
First priority is 480p since 1mb net and lack of time. I have less than an hour a day for chinese cartoons. My autism is still under control.
720p for TV series. 1080p for movies.
Looks great on my 1080p projector at 100" diagonal.
Took longer than a minute (since I had to download that episode with no fucking seeders at all first) but here it is.
Decide for yourself if you should download upscales to 1080p if they're available in future.
I do because it makes the subs look better.
I made a comparison with subs on for this one.
>I do because it makes the subs look better.
You know you can set the resolution of the subs to your desktop, right?
I guess 1080p seems like it's worth it.
>Upscaled 720p to 1080p
>they're both 1080p
Wait, what am I looking at?
26" monitor [1920x1200(16:10)]
1080p all the way
Wait, what exactly is the difference between "Upscaled 720p to 1080p" and "Native 720p" (upscaled to 1080p)?
How subs look depends on your subtitle renderer. You may want to take a look at XySubFilter.
How the videos looks depends on your video renderer, take a look at madVR.
Pretty pointless comparison (naming is a bit misleading too).
Jesus, what scaling algorithms do you use? It shouldn't look that different.
Basically, native 720p is the file in 1280x720 and then fullscreen on a 1080p monitor, just what that anon wanted.
While 720p upscaled to 1080p is the upscaled release from HR which is at 1920x1080.
tl:dr one is stretched the other isn't.
What did you use to make this gif? The quality is quite nice and the size isn't that big.
So what upscaling algorithm did you use?
All things being equal if you want the best quality you should always grab 1080p.
Chroma subsampling means you will be losing color information if you download anything besides 1080p or 4:4:4 720p encodes.
Also, most downscaling is not lossless. The only methods of downscaling that are lossless are filters like deilinear and debicubic. However, if an encoder guesses wrong and use debilinear when the source was actually upscaled using bicubic they will introduce a bunch of ringing. I doubt most encoders look hard enough to know if they are using the correct one.
Do you mean you're converting a 720p release of a group with their 1080p release? If so, "native" isn't really the word you should use.
Also, see >>100423122, and you probably should use PNG and not JPEG for comparisons like these.
>Do you mean you're converting
huh, the difference is greater than I expected. I guess I'll have to watch a episode in both res to see if there's an actual difference while watching or if it just seem so different because I'm looking for it.
>implying ShareX lets me do anything else than .jpg even though I forced it to do png only.
No, fuck off with your puush shit.
What? First of all, why do you need some special software to take screenshots? And if your software only allows jpg screenshots then don't use that software for quality comparisons.
Always 720p for airing shows.
Sometimes 1080p for BD shows.
Always 1080p for movies.
The comparison stays the same, their shit are steamrips but you can clearly see upscaled looks better than their normal 720 release, which was the whole point of this.
He fucked something up, the difference shouldn't be that big.
Here's a proper comparison:
Jesus nigger, what are you doing.
It looks better when actually watching it, that's a given. But both pictures lose the same amount of quality. They're not to show off how good native 1080p/upscaled looks compared to upscaled 720p/native 720 but rather a comparison to see that there's a significant difference between those two.
The 720p version of Horriblesubs release is not an upscaling algorithm. What madVR settings you using to upscale it to 1080p?
>deleted all my google cookies
>disabled 3rd party cookies
>block cross-domain requests to google analytics and googleusercontent via the requestpolicy addon (in blacklist mode)
captcha still easy
I don't think anyone, including you, has any idea what you mean with native and upscaled at this point.
720p is usually indistinguishable from 1080p in practice. I suppose if I pause, move closer to my monitor and look extremely closely, I might sometimes notice a difference. When actually watching something, though...
>>100422952 is actually a pretty good example. The difference here is really noticeable when looking closely. When I lean back in my chair though, the two shots are a lot closer. And that's a still shot, and I'm specifically trying to compare them, and rarely are the differences that extreme. I sometimes for for 1080 for movies, but most of the time, I'd rather have the hard drive space for more shows.
Yeah. Something most people should be able to use, so chose it over nnedi3.
looks like a fucking flash animation
1080p. Because I've never seen a 1080p video look worse than its 720p counterpart if they're part of the same release, but I have 1080p videos look better than their 720p counterpart from the same release.
Why not Jinc?
>Upscaled 720p to 1080p
Both are upscaled, it's just that the upscaling either happend during encoding or on your computer. and you're probably using bilinear or something equally crappy
jinc is for online upscaling. nnedi is for offline
Have you ever tried glasses, like weak ones? Know anyone with glasses? How about you try theirs.
I used Avisynth, and while Jinc recently got ported, I haven't actually tested it yet. nnedi3 should be better anyway.
I use Jinc for playback with madVR, though.
I use a 6 year old macbook. I don't think there are any actual viewable differences between 720p and 1080p on this thing.
Actually nnedi3 just got a real nice opencl version. Give it like another year and a new GPUs should be able to do it in realtime for 720p to 1440p. Right now it is possible to do 480p to 960p if you have a good GPU.
>using jpgs for screenshot comparisons
You make me sick
720p because whenever I play a 1080p file my computer downscales it to 720p so there's no real point in downloading 1080p.
>my computer downscales it to 720p
Why? Small monitor?
I said the difference is noticeable. My point was that the difference lessens the farther you are from your monitor. It's still definitely there.
I'm the guy who has no idea what's happening and just agrees with whoever speaks last, so bear with me for a second.
>it's just that the upscaling either happend during encoding or on your computer.
This means that if I download a 720 release and make it fullscreen to a 1920x1080 resolution, the result should be the same as downloading the 1080p release?
"upscaling to 1080p" just means something like "making the default resolution of the video 1920x1080"?
ITT Poorfags that can't buy space for 1080p files.
Go away, no one is even talking about that.
1080p for everything. I got 24TB of space on this bad boy.
720p for airing shows. Unless they're a special case, like Gifuu Doudou. One of those anime where nobody even bothers to take the 1080p CR source and use that, which would have been the best choice.
Otherwise, it's generally 1080p for movies, 1080p for any anime BDs from the past year or so, and the rest is a case-by-case basis.
Old anime with grain, you just have to take what you can get. There usually isn't a choice.
It's from a thread on /g/ a while ago.
>"upscaling to 1080p" just means something like "making the default resolution of the video 1920x1080"?
>This means that if I download a 720 release and make it fullscreen to a 1920x1080 resolution, the result should be the same as downloading the 1080p release?
no, not necessarily.
a) the source material available to whoever made the encode (e.g. crunchyroll) might be > 720p. E.g. a 960p source upscaled to 1080p will preserve that quality while downscaling to 720p would lose some
b) an offline upscaling algorithm can be better since it can do more complex calculations than something that has to work in realtime. The best online upscaling algorithm we have right now is Jinc, available in madVR. Most people just use shitty bilinear, which results in washed out edges.
And I'm actually being serious because I've experienced those things as well. You might need megane anon.
But naturally it would lessen.
My monitor's resolution is 1366x768
Although although all my videos play in 1200x720
I can't believe there are really people who use 1920x1080 for anime.
>using the insult "poorfag"
>on a board where the majority of people are NEETs
Jesus fucking christ, just get out already.
Which is better?
1080p DL on 1080p monitor or 720p DL upscaled on 1080p?
If you have a 1080p monitor, is it better to let the pc do the upscaling, or download the upscaled version?
watching it 720p at 720p (letterboxing, or whatever) is not an option, sorry poorfags
I see. Thanks for the help anon, very useful.
Refer to the guy I quoted, >>100424774
>people still don't have at least 22" 1080p monitors
What the fuck /a/. You can get them for as little as 100$, and i'm talking about brand new here.
Here is a comparison of Kara no Kyoukai. The digital grain in it is 1080p. Grain like this probably the only real time you will notice the difference between 720p and 1080p anime.
If that 1080p you download is certainly an upscale:
- color (chroma) resolution loss if you upscale 720p
- overlay (like credits) resolution loss if you upscale 720p
- higher quality brightness (luma) if you upscale 720p with a better algorithm (see madVR) than the 1080p used
1080p is just upscales usually right?
I tend to click em anyways if they're available, unlimited bandwidth and 5TB free. Some Anon explained it was probably better quality to get 720p and let my PC upscale it, so maybe I'll switch down, I don't know.
I'm probably one of the few retards who runs SVP to get muh 60fps, so perfect image quality has never been a major concern for me. Especially since I got my start on anime years and years ago with 15 mb rmvbs of Ranma. Quality was SURE not issue there.
>perfect image quality
So basically you're saying your opinion should be ignored immediately.
But he said
>I'm probably one of the few retards who runs SVP to get muh 60fps, so perfect image quality has never been a major concern for me
In other words, he realized that SVP does not give perfect image quality.
I don't even know why I bother. I just can't force myself to get rid of it.
if it was mastered in a resolution greater than 720p then get the 1080p
if it was mastered in 720p or less then get the 720p.
to see what a show was mastered in check >>100418792
That, and 2TB HDD can be had for under $80
If we all make this wish I'm sure certain someone whose responsible for many terrible things will make it reality.
this is shit, i don't speak nip
>storing your anime series
Anyway I'm always downloading 720p and watch it on my 42" HDTV. You can't see fucking difference between 720p and 1080p from 2 meters so I don't bother with bigger files.
>worrying about filesizes even though you don't store episodes
I don't get it. Do you have bad download speeds or download caps?
For that, you could just stream.
Storing BDs is acceptable.
Seeding them kinda.
Seeding and storing TV releases is fucking disgusting, more so official rips, I don't really like to watch anime on my TV though, sometimes I just fall asleep.
>actually watching anything at below 720p
unless it's old and there was never a bd release
Welcome to the NHK ;_:
What's the name of your seeing eye dog?
720p otherwise I run out of space.
Welcome to the NHK is a specially sad case since the overall best release seems to be a hardsubbed xvid TV rip.