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so it has been almost 2 years.
any news on s3 of horizon in the middle of nowhere?
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forget about it. it served it purpose boosting the paper bricks selling, there's no reason to do another season
and no one cares anymore, btw.
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>>100413829
The closest thing to news right now is volume 7A coming out suspiciously early next month which seems to coincide with one of Dengeki's festivals.

It's probably nothing but it's in our nature at this point to grasp at straws.
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>>100413829
No, but we have a translation ongoing now so we are less desperate.
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Who cares? Shit show.
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>>100413829
Why is he naked?
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>>100413829
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I've given up hope of a S3, just going to learn runes and read the novels instead.
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>>100414307
Why aren't you naked?
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>>100414307
Why aren't you?
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it sold well, people like it everywhere in the world.
Sunrise could through a bone to the world and just do it.
I know they make good money of original animes but wouldn't a known freanchise be more secure?
entertainment industry is werd.i mean when people want sequels they don't do them, when nobody wants them they do
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>>100414551
It's not Sunrise, it's Dengeki and Bandai.

Basically, Dengeki just sees anime as a way to advertise their novels. That's why finished novel series almost never get an adaptation.
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>>100414307
He feels like it.
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>>100413904
>it served it purpose boosting the paper bricks selling
The sales only rose slightly.
Dengeki probably made more money off the show itself.

just-believe.in everybody. Dengeki/ASCII/Bandai/Sunrise will surely deliver.
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>>100414307
It serves as an offering to a god.
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>>100415504
No one will deliver anon, give up. It'll be like Rozen Maiden all over again.
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>>100415707
Except Rozen Maiden never sold 21k per volume for two cours.
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>>100415707
Only if DEEN takes over for S3.
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>>100415834
>>100415906
You're holding onto a false hope gentlemen..
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>>100415504
>The sales only rose slightly.
The total sales for the series doubled in a single year after the anime came out (though that is including one new volume/2 books that came out while it was airing)
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Just Believe.
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>>100414356
Why? We have js06 working on it now.
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Keep faith.
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i´ll hope with you guys, let's hope together
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I'm reading 2-B now. Expect an announcement when I finish.
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>22:43, 1 January 2014‎ Js06 (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (17,289 bytes) (+63)‎ . . (→‎Owari no Chronicle 2-B)
My Kawakamin withdrawal symptoms are starting to kick in.
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I'm patient, I'll wait.
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>>100421134
He is with Kamachi stuff now, be patient.
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>>100421600
I know, but being patient doesn't help my addiction.
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>>100421134
Heavy Object and than Index.
You're going to wait for a while longer.
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Oh shit, an Horizon thread, when was the last time we had one? I missed you guys, even if we have nothing to talk about anymore.
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>>100421691
>when was the last time we had one?
Two weeks and a day ago.
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/99469027
Last not-DOA thread was probably 18 days ago though.
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/99278390

>even if we have nothing to talk about anymore.
But we do, we've got LN translations now.
It's just that no-one reads them since all the holes haven't been patched up. And also because some parts are a chore to get through.
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>>100422166
Waaaait. I usuaally do a search of "Kawakami" on archive and there is a thread every couple of days.

And I doubt volume 1 has much of Js06 work in it anyway.
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>>100422166
>It's just that no-one reads them since all the holes haven't been patched up. And also because some parts are a chore to get through.
You can read Owari, but people usually waits until the whole volume is completed for that.
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>>100422374
>And I doubt volume 1 has much of Js06 work in it anyway.
It doesn't, which is kind of the problem. Reading from the start to the current point of translation is impossible, which I imagine is kind of a turn off, together with the fact that some parts of V1 read weirdly.

Also, Zeroblade photographed Kawakami's KanColle doujin a while ago:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ia127z12v6svr82/
>I read in an earlier thread that there was interest for scans of HDDD 2, by the way.
>If the HDDD 1 scans were decent enough, I'll try to scan the second once I have a functioning scanner again.
>While I also have HDDD 6 with me from Comiket 85, I don't have 3, 4, and 5 (I have no idea how they all got out so fast) so hopefully someone else will scan those.
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>>100422694
>It doesn't, which is kind of the problem. Reading from the start to the current point of translation is impossible, which I imagine is kind of a turn off, together with the fact that some parts of V1 read weirdly.
1A is almost readable now, it need to fix some typos but right now is perfectly understandable.
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>>100422694
I`m going through it while commuting and it is quite bad to read, but english is not native for me, so I doubt I should go editing.

Considering overall lack of threads lately, people, what did you expect? It`s january, everything slows down considerably.
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>>100422876
>I`m going through it while commuting and it is quite bad to read, but english is not native for me, so I doubt I should go editing.
You should try if you feel confident about it, we got it to the current point doing that. At first was just like some alien gibberish, not just needs editing.
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>>100422694
Doujin? Looks like a 20 page synopsis.
The guy can't stop writing.

Also, his art sure improved.
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>>100422694
I think Nackbjorn edited some of them the other day.
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>>100422166
We had this one too.
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/99878071/
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>>100413829
> it has been almost 2 years
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>>100422811
The problem isn't that it's hard to understand, it's that the translation ruins the prose. Normally, Kawakami's stuff is pretty easy reading (in English), but the constant shifting in tenses and things like that felt pretty exhausting.

>>100423425
Yeah, I was reading the 1A .epub and just felt like doing my part. I'm going to try to edit the rest as I go along, although I'm not a native English speaker and might just fuck it up further.
Still, thanks for making it readable in the first place, Strike Forcer.
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>>100421134
>>100421600
>>100421667
It's really been the perfect storm for no Kawakami translations.

The new Heavy Object novel was pretty long (for a normal LN), scans weren't released until just before the new Index novel, real life slowed the the translation to a crawl for a bit, and I also have an Index SS chapter to translate.
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>>100425705
Take your time, I got a lot of reading up to do even without Kawakami.
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>>100425705
Don't worry, you are a godsend. Take your time.

How are you going with v3 reading?
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>>100425862
I've read through Chapter 45, so I'm about halfway through 3-B.
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>>100425705
Don't worry.
Leaves me enough time to catch up on the typesetting.
Been pretty busy lately as well.

Thanks as always.
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>>100426144
So you got already to the extreme DOGEZA battle and french maid army.
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>>100426144
>>100426521
What is exactly happening here?
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OP here
posting my collection of horizon images
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>>100425705
I'd say it's a shame, but I guess we have had our fun for a while now.
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>>100426894
It seems to be Tenzou running holding Collbrande, his eyes ever hidden.
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>>100426913
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>>100427140
>>100427204
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Please do not image dump pointlessly.
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>>100426894
Tenzou fighting Mouri automaton maids in a French forest.
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I just started to watch Horizon, and I'm still pretty confused as to what's going on about four episodes in.
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>>100427424
this helped me a lot:

- http://randomc.net/2012/06/30/kyoukai-senjou-no-horizon-retrospective-part-1-the-premise-the-world-episodes-01-06/

- http://genesis-horizon.wikia.com/wiki/Kyoukai_Senjou_no_Horizon_Wiki

- http://kyoukaisen.tumblr.com/
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>>100427424
It's normal reaction. You've granted permission to use this thing.
http://kyoukaisen.tumblr.com/
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>>100427620
Oh wow, thank you Anon-kun.
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>>100427424
just-believe.in has some advice, if you scroll down a bit.
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>>100427364
He can use Collbrande too?
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>>100427424
That`s okay, first run tends to be confusing up to the final fight. Then you kind of get things and oh boy, S2 is wildest ride ever.
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>>100426913
>>100427620
last one.
if anyone wants me to upload all of the novel covers say it
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Hey guys remember that time Lantis released the OST on time?
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>>100427424
I didn't really follow what was happening because I didn't have a real-world history reference point.
Season 2 made more sense.
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>>100427828
Me neither.
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>>100427620
>>100427801
I also made this for myself.
It contains small spoilers of who owns which weapons.
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>>100427828
OST 2 was released the day they said. It was even funnier because it was leaked on internet two days before.
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>>100427988
Nice balls.
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>>100417768
Index has the priority, he's working on NT9 right?
And you can't expect him to translate both OWari and Horizon, they hella long.
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>>100427988
What.
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>>100427828
Speaking of OSTs Tatsuya sure's getting around these days.

2 high profile shows this season and 2 the last or was it 3?
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>>100427828
I didn't mind when they released it early.
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>>100428063
>And you can't expect him to translate both OWari and Horizon, they hella long.
But he is doing exactly that.
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>>100427988
that was not what i ****ing posted
what happened
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>>100428163
> ****ing
You deserve it.
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>>100428163
It happens, just post it again.
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>>100428163
it was an excel file screen print
is that not ok here?
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>>100428153
He is doing right now, but as I said Horizon is longer than Index+NT, and OnC isn't exactly a short story.
You can't know if he'll feel like translating it in one years.
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>>100427424
>>100427620
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>>100428108
Not much I can say for Buddy Complex as a show so far other than "As expected of a Sunrise original Mecha" but the OST in episode 2 was quite catching.
I was asleep before watching Sekai Seifuku so I gotta rewatch it before the 2nd episode.
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>>100428193
i can't remember if it is ok to curse in a.
i know i can in b.
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>>100427724
Mary let him use one half of the sword for the battle.
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>>100428308
It's ok anywhere. Be careful with posting nsfw content though.
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>>100428255
js06 is the more constant and reliable translator out there though.
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>>100428348
I don't see ninjas swinging around huge broadswords but hey, this is Horizon we're talking about.
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>>100427988
>I also made this for myself.
>It contains small spoilers of who owns which weapons.
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>>100428308
Lurk the fuck more, seriously.
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>>100428432
Anon...
Zeroblade made that a long time ago.
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>>100428348
Oh nice, Collbrande got some sentience like other Divine Weapons right? The sword accepted to be wielded by other person if that's the case?
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>>100428520
Where the excel version at?
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>>100428615
here >http://i.4cdn.org/a/src/1389989404083.jpg
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>>100428386
I know that, I know.
In fact I'm happy he is the one translating Horizon, because most of the translators would end up dropping it after two volumes at most.
But better to not count your chickens before they've hatched.
He should translate Nisioisin's novels and a bunch of eroge as well though
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>>100428659
Wrong one.
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>>100428659
>>100428432
wait there is a big spoiler about one character.
if you haven't seen the anime don't see the image.
sorry i totally forgot about that
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>>100428757
i think it's safe to assume everyone here watched both seasons.
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>>100428754
that's the excel one
what do you see?
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>>100428824
Well, there was a guy before that was in episode 4.
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>>100428580
I'm not sure if it would ever outright refuse if Mary told it to be wielded by someone, but it does seem to have taken a liking to Tenzou.
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>>100428892
Well, with them being fiancees and Collbrande being basically the wedding gift, it makes sense.
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>>100428828
The spreadsheet Zerboblade made, and fuck me I can't find it anywhere.
Somehow it's fucking gone from my folder and not on Bitches MF
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>>100428708
>should
As if he doesn't do enough stuff already.
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>>100429014
http://i.4cdn.org/a/src/1389989514874.jpg
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>>100429014
I don't remember anyone ever uploading a spreadsheet to my MF.
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>>100428659
>>100429052
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>100429052
I think he wants the excel file.
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>>100429109
lmao
what the fuck do you want?
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>>100429201
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>>100429234
The excel, but not yours, he is asking if someone got Zeroblade's one.
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>>100429234
I want you to go back to what ever shithole you came from.
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>>100429248
>>100429201
I just love those eyes.
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>>100429055
Weird, I was so sure it was there.
Since the tumblr's search function is fucking useless and I'm getting nothing on the archive.
Now I really want to find it.
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>>100429331
your mom's.
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Ignore the shitposter.
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>>100429369
I remember the excel file of the Horizon Callout Chart, not that one.
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>>100428520
>william cecil
>women
>bust type XL
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>>100429248
>>100429201
Marfa best waifu
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Why did Toori take to dressing like a chick, and more importantly why is he so good at it?
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>>100429488
Why not?
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>>100429423
>“Testament,” said Dudley with a nod. “H-historically, William Cecil was the queen’s Secretary of State and her good friend, but the stress of being envied and his hard work led him to regularly overeat. He became mocked as England’s representative of obesity. H-his may be an honored position, but the men backed away due to the dishonorable treatment. That is why she, England’s greatest competitive eater, was recommended."
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So how was the PSP game, last time i checked the game had just been realeased.
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>>100429548
Mediocre.
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Here it is?

http://www.mediafire.com/download/b7084zus42s1aw4/Horizon+Callout+Chart.xlsx
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>>100429583
Looks like it.
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There's a dengeki announcement in a few months, right?

Time to get my hopes up only to have them shattered again.
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>>100429459
>Ella es de la raza Archidemonio humanoide, pero del tipo especifico "Sistema de Inmortalidad" (no muere hasta que se descomponga todo el cuerpo).
Immortal waifu, so perfect.
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>>100428892
What is Collbrande ability actually? I think someone said here that the giant slice beam at the end of 2B can only be done in England.
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>>100429849
That sounds like a very convenient immortality until you take a look at what she can go up against.
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>>100429838
March I think. First part of Horizon Vol7 comes out in Feb.
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>>100429459
All Horizon are the best waifus.
Except Toori. Toori is a slut.

>>100429548
It was eeeeeh.
Good music though.
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>>100430124
If there is someone, who is not a slut, it is Toori. Waiting ten years for your waifu is not a slutty feat.
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>>100430124
How dare you call Toori a slut.
At most he's an exibitionist.
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>>100430262
>>100430311
But he's getting it on with Asama and Nate as well as Horizon.
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>>100430459
You will have to wait for my reply until we get more definite info on this development. But at least, I doubt it was initiated by Toori.
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>>100430654
Even if he didn't initiate it, he's still a slut if he doesn't refuse them.
Can't blame him for wanting to grope girls' tits, but that doesn't help his slut ranking either.
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>>100431053
I wish we had something else to discuss.
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>>100431217
What would 10ZOs breasts feel like?
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>>100431217
We can talk about how the novel is so full of info that I kinda understand that the first four episodes were so hard to follow the first watch.
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>>100431272
Easy.
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can anyone explain what the fuck is going on in this show to me? please? I watched both seasons and I still don't get it.

Why are schools in a historical recreation / battle royale where they murder each other? Why do the "grown ups" even allow it? Why did Horizon's dad murder himself? Where did the angels and demons come from?
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>>100429901
It has to be fully charged for that attack and it can only be recharged in England.
Outside of England, it's just two flying swords.
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>>100431562
Oh, so they fly? Well, I suppose that they are still a pretty fine set of swords.
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>>100431516
>Why are schools in a historical recreation / battle royale where they murder each other?
They recreate history to retrace their path to get back to the heavens. Also, as they turned history and conflicts into cards of negotiation, they can control wars and politics so humanity will survive. The Academy system was something they came up when they had to dealt about how to control the Far East while in real history never mentioned nothing about it. Basically, the Academies are the heart of the nations as they represent the government, judiciary and military with their members affiliated to them for life. Only the Far East got the 18 years graduation rule due to historical reasons.

>Why do the "grown ups" even allow it?
The grown ups are on it, they are "students" too.

>Why did Horizon's dad murder himself?
Nobody knows, the whole thing is still in the shadows. You can see it as a Xanatos Gambit to stop the Apocalypse.

>Where did the angels and demons come from?
The different races came from other worlds that humanity found as they developed. It's explained in Owari no Chronicle, another of the author works.
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>>100431516
>Why are schools in a historical recreation / battle royale where they murder each other?
The schools are the governing bodies of the nations' due to exploiting a loophole in a peace treaty after a wall, letting the rest of the world rule the Nips.
They're recreating history to recover their lost technology by the way of retracing their steps.
>Why do the "grown ups" even allow it?
The students are only required to be under 18 in the Far East. All other nations have no age limits, and thus the other academies are the adults.
>Why did Horizon's dad murder himself?
To start shit with the Testament Union and free the Musashi to send it on a path to save the world from the Apocalypse in accordance to some secret plan of his.
>Where did the angels and demons come from?
Probably from an earlier era. Several worlds were merged with our own in one of the author's previous works, taking place way before Horizon.

Honestly, all of these except the last one would have been answered if you had just paid more attention. Just read up on the info links at just-believe.in if you've got more questions.
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I'm getting pretty sick of anime because of this shit. Almost everything is an incomplete adaption with no ending, just a single "arc"

fucking bullshit
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Are all Horizon girls still best? Because last I checked, which was almost a year ago since I stopped keeping up with the series, they were.
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>>100433209
Yes, all Horizons are best Horizons. Even the guys.
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>>100433207
It's a bit late to get sick. Anime has always been advertisements for something, be it toys, plastic or another medium
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>>100433401
Wow, what a insightful intelligent comment. I totally didn't know Gundam sold plastic models. Just like you apparently don't know that Gundam actually finishes the storyline.
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>>100433679
Well, Gundam is anime original.
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Adele <3
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>>100433679
Just stop watching adaptions and learn moon then.
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>>100433207
It's not like Horizon is ever going to end anyway.
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This Horizon is all bout hips, even more than breasts.

That Horizon is about /glasses.
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>>100434569
Horizon will end. Kawakami ended his other works. I am sure he has it all planned out, he knows where he is going he is just currently filling in the getting there.
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>>100434684
He have all of it planned, it was the same with Owari.
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>>100434885
So, the Hip Horizon and the Glass Horizon?
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>>100434684
I was joking, but you know as well as I that Horizon could go on for another half a decade still.
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>>100434981
meant for >>100434577
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>>100435038
Well, in 6C they were in July 31 I think. Three or four arcs more, at least.
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did Owari end, or is it ongoing?
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>>100435240
it ended before horizon began
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>>100435240
It ended in 2005.
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>>100435362
oh i thought the author made a prequel to horizon.
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>>100435504
is it fully translated?
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>>100435558
No he wrote it before Horizon, is just in a previous era in the universe timeline.

>>100435617
No, js06 is on it too. He is in 2B right now.
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>>100429901
Funnel.
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We are getting a lot of dragons lately in Horizon.
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Delicious werewolf hips.


Tits are overrated!
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should i read owari befori horizon?
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>Almost 2 years.
>No sign of S3 at all.
Sunrise are killing me, Why are Studio 8 doing this.
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>>100436729
perflat
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>>100436748
It doesn't matter, they both stand on their own and are separated by millennia chronologically.
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>>100436748
You can read both.
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What I don`t understand in Vol 1 is all those "there existed a ..." in the beginning of almost every part. Is it really necessary and absolutely cannot be changed to "there stood a tree" or something like it?
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>>100437533
Why does he have that and what if Shinjou learns about it.
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>>100437478
Yes.
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>>100437590
He has that because he is Shinjousexual.
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>>100437478
No, is not.
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>>100437622
>>100437740
So can it be changed or not.
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>>100435139
Didn't he say the first 3 or 4 books were the prologue?
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>>100436831
I'd lick and rub it.

Also, needs the gif version.
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>>100438021
Maybe he was going for the scare factor.

I think he should go into serious big books after he finishes Horizon. Certainly he has no problem constructing a narrative worthy of a medium with more pedigree than my little sister is another flavor of a year.
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>>100437769
Yes, it can be changed.
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>>100438308
Yes, he said at the end of 3C "well, the prologue is over". Given how that volume ends, it makes sense.
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>>100438308
>I think he should go into serious big books after he finishes Horizon.
>serious
That doesn't sound very Kawakami.
I'm pretty sure he's fine with writing LNs
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>>100439674
Yea, he`s just writing normal length books and then has Editor-san read throught them and split into LN-appropriate volumes.
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>>100439759
>light novel
>paper bricks
>appropriate
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>>100439759
>LN-appropriate volumes.
I am sure he is still breaking every standard when it comes to "LN-appropriate volumes".
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Can someone spoil me on how exactly Nate defeated Rudolf in 3C? I know it's something related to his painkiller protection not covering pain he causes himself, but how would making the sword inside him vibrate do that?

That aside, I'd like to see all the different weapons and Gods of War animated in S3.
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>>100440496
Minimally appropriate then.

Point is, he may be just afraid of the bigger format and things that come with it, like different editorial approach, deadlines, royalties and shit. If you judge by the way content is structured and what themes are used, OnC and Horizon are books, not LNs.
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>>100440580
LN isn't a very well defined category anyway. Kawakami already breaks pretty much every definition /a/ tries to apply to it.
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>>100440542
We don't know, not many people read it in moon. How was it?
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>>100440580
>>100440644
Will you guys drop the fucking pretentious as shit circlejerking already?
They may be good stories, but they're nothing special compared to any other decent LN out there, and their writing is still a whole different beast altogether than most formal, high-level, "non-LN" Japanese fiction.
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>>100440580
>If you judge by the way content is structured and what themes are used, OnC and Horizon are books, not LNs.
I think the illustrations, fanservice and referential humour in them is pretty indicative of them being LNs. Not to say that there's a sharp line between LNs and regular novels, but it feels pretty clearly aimed at the LN demographic. You'll have to consider that things like Slayers are LNs too.
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>>100440644
Isn`t it defined by the majority of titles published? If you go by that metric, LN is something severely restrained in the range of themes by juvenile characters, simple sentence structures, plots formulaic to the extreme and orientation on quick market turnaround.
Our motherfucker indeed breaks everything, so it`s only natural to consider his stuff belonging to a different category.
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>>100440877
Indeed, but I see all that as inserted postfactum rather than pivots on which everything lives or dies.

>>100440847
Did we make you uncomfortable with our little bit of pretentiousness? So sorry.
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>>100440847
Yeah, I like Horizon, a lot, but I think you're giving Kawakami too much credit sometimes.
He's good, but he's not God's gift to Japanese literature, for Christ's sake.
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>>100441150
>you're
*you guys are
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>>100440847
I have a feeling you took our conversation the wrong way and got butthurt about nothing.
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>>100441347
Aw come on, the thread got a little livelier at least.

Who`s getting that february volume, by the way, and who`s scanning recent manga volume?
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>>100413829
WE`LL BE FREEEEEEEEEEEE
JUST BELIEEEEEEEEEEEEVEEEEEEE
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>>100441544
The most likely person to provide scans, unless the nips do so again, will be Ivan.

I will be getting 7A of course, but I don't rip and scan.
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>>100441942
Last time they did scan two of three volumes I think, but with a big time gap and quality was kind of fuckoff. So let`s hope for Ivan.

But what about the manga?
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>>100438335
What is gravity manipulation
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>>100440847
It's not that there is actually a way to write "high-level" books, that just depends on the author style.

A LN is something like a pulp novel, but nowadays those are published like normal books and considered as such.
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>>100440699
Like the last few episodes of both seasons, full of hectic developments and happening. Except all the important people dropping like flies in face of M.H.R.R/P.A. ODA, but we already know that.
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>>100442926
When people die in 3C they usually do in awesome contraptions.
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>>100442751
I was talking more about the Rudolph battle.
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>>100443315
That's Shigisan?
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>>100443419
Oh, it was pretty violent like what people have said. Being a 'deviant' to the core, (shapeshifting, painlessness, apparent regen) it was pretty much impossible to incapacitate him in battle. He set a condition that if Nate is able to make him feel pain before Magdeburg begins, he'll give her the memo containing a clue to the Lost Nobles.

He has a harem of women who tried to kill him before, and transforms into Nate, then Turenne, before revealing his 'final form' during the fight.
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>>100443928
The final form was the female form right? That it was super quick or something.
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>>100444285
Yes. That was the result of letting his shapeshift go out of control.
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>>100443469
Yeah.

Seeing Qing-Takeda's Benkei animated would be sweet as well, as with Toshiie's necromancy.
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>>100444685
Well, it's not that it is around that much. It trashed like one chapter after it is deployed.
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>>100414307
He spent the majority of season 2 naked.
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>>100445987
Rev up your proxy.
http://www.tenkystore.com/product/43
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This backstory is very, very lewd.
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>>100449120
Yes, that's one of the first spoilers we got I think. How many days were at the end?
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>>100449120
Everything with Neitomama is lewd.
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>>100428520
>Descended angel
>Anti-fallen angel
Specifically, what are these races? And what is the difference between them? I can understand the implications behind a "fallen angel", but what is an "anti-fallen angel"?
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>>100450105
As far I know, they types of angels are usually translated as Fallen Angels, Rebel Fallen Angels and Descended Angels.
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>>100450105
They come from "Heaven" or so it seems.
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>>100451088
They were displaced when heaven, hell and various other worlds and realms were destroyed before the Genesis Era.
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>>100450640
>>100451088
>>100451285
Oh, I get that, but what's the difference between them? I'm not too clear why there's a distinction between fallen angels, rebel/anti-fallen angels, and descended angels ...
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>>100451455
Descended angels were the usual "goody two-shoes" angel. Compared to the Fallen Angels who were cast down from Heaven by force, these Descended Angels came down voluntarily. Not sure about the Rebel Angels, although they might just be Fallen Angels that are antagonistic towards other Fallen Angels.
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>>100451455
Check the wiki.
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>>100451635
Rebel Fallen Angels are just a special type of Fallen Angel, or so it seems.

Basically, Descended Angels = Golden Wings, Fallen Angels = Black Wings.
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>>100450105
墜天 or Descended Angels are angels who left god because they wanted to live with humans. They have yellow wings.
堕天 or Fallen Angels are angels who rebelled against god. They have black skin and black wings, but there are very few of them so the Anti-Fallen Angels are often simply referred to as Fallen Angels.
匪堕天 or Anti-Fallen Angels have black wings. The Anti at the start of the name might be a reference to 匪天 or Nein Angel which referred to half-angel, half-humans in Kawakami's earlier novel Tune Bust City Hong Kong.
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>>100451788
Thanks!

>>100451642
Oh shit, sorry. I read the wiki long ago and didn't find much information on either Malga or Margot's pages, and I didn't think to check "angel" in the search bar. Gonna read up on it now, thanks.
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>>100451788
Seeing it like this, probably the last ones are just the result of the Fallen Angels mixing with Descended Angels and humans.
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