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Is Joseph a vampire? Vanilla Ice got turned into one after receiving DIO's blood, so why not him?
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>>100405845
Araki's writing is incredibly contrived and honestly not very good.

He often writes himself into corners forcing him to pull something out of his ass to resolve things.
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>>100405845
Hamon auto-kills vampirism before it activates
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>>100406254
This makes sense. Do they ever bring it up though?
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>>100406254
except for when it doesn't.
>Straits
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>>100406216
>Araki's writing is incredibly contrived and honestly not very good.
That's okay because his stories are incredibly entertaining.
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>>100406492
Maybe hamon doesn't auto-kill vampirism obtained from the mask

I dunno who cares
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>>100406492
Maybe using the mask could have killed his hamon
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>>100406552
It didn't kill his hamon since he could use it

God damn why couldn't there be a scene in Part 3 with Joseph redirecting DIO's eye lasers
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It was his own blood, maybe it needs time in Dio's body for it to become vampire blood.
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>>100406595
Oh. I don't really remember him using the hamon as a vampire, care to tell me when he did?
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>>100406666
Not him, but I think he committed suicide with his hamon, I should probably reread
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>>100406666
He used it right when he died. He still could use it, it'd just kill himself to do that.
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It's not that Hamon autokills vampirism. It does so when the user wants to kill the vampirism, but killing vampirism kills the user, unless inducing vampire status through blood takes longer than with the stonemask so Joseph could kill the vampirism before he became a vampire.

My reasoning is autistic, this is just a plothole
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>>100406697
>>100406716
Yeah now I remember.
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>>100405845
Because Araki forgot. Jojos is rotten with plotholes and contradictions.
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>>100407063
I'm not gonna dispute that, but in his defense, alot of them can still be sorta explained. Although it's merely speculation, there do exist some pretty solid theories for some of the plot holes.

Like DIO's Hermit Purple-thing, for example
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>>100407325
What's DIO's Hermit purple-thing?
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>>100407426
This.

There are alot of solid theories as to what this is, even if it's never explained, nor brought up again.
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>>100407426
They say DIO has access to all Joestar Stands.
Imagine if they waited a few years and he got Crazy Diamond and Gold experience.
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>>100407489
>DIO with GER
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>>100405845
i thought he just drained his blood, not give him blood.
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>>100407643
He's talking about the blood transplant at the end.

>DIO was actually going to come back in Joesph's body, but Araki decided that was stupid but left it in as a joke
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>>100405845
how is this a plot hole? if you guys remember season 1 when dio stabbed Jonathan he was going to turn him into a vampire, but then Jonathan flxed his hammon neck and squirted out some kind of fluid that wasn't blood

maybe its vampire venom or something that casuses vampirism
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>>100407463
It's Jonathan's stand. But for some reason people believe The World is Jonathan's stand.
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>>100407716
>David cuts out that part for the animation
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>>100408928
David has been faithful as fuck, they even left in errors like in the mansion fight.
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>>100409041
>errors in the mansion fight
explain
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>>100407865
Actually it's some kinda vampiric essence.

Dio actually mentions this in his fight with Jonathan.
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>>100406806
>Holy using Skrillex's toothbrush.jpg
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>>100409129
The spear in Jonathan's body changes place.
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>>100409212
>David ACTUALLY starts wubbing during the brushing.

They bothered to put it in the trailer for god's sake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqkpbt2Ero
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>>100405845
>is Joseph a vampire
>posts a picture of him standing in the sun
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>>100409399
That's the start of SC, DIO blood transfusion happens at the end retard
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What the fuck kind of ending was stone ocean anyway. Fuck. I though P5 was abrupt.
Oh by the way everyone is different and essentially gone forever, pretty cool huh?
Why would he even...
I know SBR is next and its supposed to be great but why kill your entire timeline and lore off. It boggles the mind.
Is Jojolion actually good? Does it justify this potential fuck up?
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Would you prefer your grandpa to be Joseph or your grandson to be Jotaro?
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>>100414762
Joseph
Jotaro can't play support for shit. Whenever he's baby sitting someone people end up getting rekt (be it him or who he's with). If you had to be one of the unlucky joestars with no cool shit you'd want Indianajoseph and his network of mates at your back.
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>>100414676
I think you should be asking that of SBR. And yes, SBR justifies the weird ending that Stone Ocean had. Still liked SO's ending better than "I am now literally god" ending that P5 had.
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>>100414676
Jojolion is awesome, SBR gets good in the middle, towards the end there's a mind-blowing plot twist and Gyro best Zeppeli
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>>100414676
SBR and Jojolion are good. Part 6 crazy ending was justified.
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>>100414762

Jotaro managed to fuck up part 4 and part 6 pretty badly and he didn't even have to use a volcano to stop an immortal vampire god and nazis
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>>100407463
>>100407489
>>100408896
Original idea of The World was letting DIO use all other stands. But then Araki realized how fucking overpowered that would be and gave him a normal stand. Hence that scene is never mentioned
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>>100416193
>>100416148
>>100416035
Well... Okay. That gives me hope, I'll probably start on SBR tomorrow.
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>>100405845
Because that would make sense.
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Jojo is full of plot holes. E.g. how did Dio hide in his coffin for 100 years when Erina used it to escape the exploding ship?

Or who was that student who looked suspiciously like Josuke who saved the life of Josuke''s mother in the past?
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>>100416692
>who looked suspiciously like Josuke who saved the life of Josuke''s mother in the past?
I was hoping for a time travel plot in part 4. Oh well.
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>>100416509
You won't regret it once you get into the swing of things.

I wish Araki didn't begin the whole thing with a side character's story that's quickly forgotten, shit feels weird.
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>>100416692
>Or who was that student who looked suspiciously like Josuke who saved the life of Josuke's mother in the past
That isn't so much of a plot hole more like something that could be expanded on. Admittedly P4 probably won't get any expansion of that sort but man. I would have liked some time shenanigans.

More annoying question where the fuck was Giorno during Pucci's shit fit. They even directly mention that he SHOULD be there. Like it was referenced. What the fuck was that all about.
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>>100416911
Disneyland.
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>>100416824
My guess is that Araki had one planned and decided to drop it around partway through the manga.
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>>100416958
Oh well. it's still my favorite part.
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>>100416911
I really hope we will see him again eventually.
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>>100416911
I think that Araki had just written himself into a corner. GER was so powerful that if Giorno appeared he would automatically win.
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>>100416911
I don't find the Josuke past a plot hole either but I wish Araki gave us an answer.

When Araki mentioned that Giorno could be near Florida I was expecting him to make an appearance. So mad it didn't happen and wasn't explained
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>>100416911
>Implying he isnt the only one who survived world reset via GER
>Implying we wont see him in part 9
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>>100416824
We REALLY need a time-travel stand.
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Because Dio's blood mixed with Jonathan's since he's using his body.

Jonathan wouldn't let Dio's filthy blood taint his bloodline.
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So just who is Jo2uke?
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>>100417157
Jason Bourne.
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>>100416985
I wasn't looking forward to it because he was so broken. I was kinda expecting it to end as a pucci v Giorno because what the fuck else does anyone else have on giorno.
>>100417065
That's true. Before he was mentioned I was kinda thinking everyone one would pretend like p5 didn't matter but then BAM right there they basically imply he's already there.
>>100417110
>>100417080
If these two things combine for a big wrap up off plot flubs I'd be pretty impressed.
>>100416957
very cheek m8 wouldn't put it past him considering he's peaked in life as far as ultimate power and societal standing go
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>>100417080
>Gio and GER are the final boss of part 9
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>time-travel stand
>it can only create stable loops
>can't really change anything, but still tries
All my money.
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>>100417421
>Stable loops can't change things
Do ho ho
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>>100417504
Well, they can't.
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>>100417504
Uh
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>>100417673
>>100417609
By the fact of having them you can by nature change things. Admittedly it becomes and extension of the one timeline but its not like its useless. Primer had bank off stable loops Person without loops=no bank -->Person with loop stand=bank == change.
Just because shit isn't 'back to the future' tier time travel and you were predestined to change what you change and always will be doesn't mean it doesn't have potential for alterations.
It would be OP as hell
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>>100417913
>Primer had bank off stable loops Person without loops=no bank -->Person with loop stand=bank == change

Yeah this is complete nonsense to me. Care to elaborate?
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>>100417280
I guess Araki didn't want to pretend Part 5 never happened so he dropped a reference to Gio but left him out. That was probably for the best. If Gio had appeared then Part 6 would have either ended like this comic or he would have had to use a contrived plot device to make Pucchi defeat Gio, which would have been even worse.
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>>100417992
No worries
The movie primer has folks stable loop and essential what they do is spend they day working, come home check the stocks and then enter their machine to return to that morning after they leave for work. They try to remove themselves from any contact with the world around them (just in case) and make money by using their stock tips they got that evening to play the market during the day. The workers come home go back in time and they with their new cash take over as the people living in their old lives. Closed loop.
It gets pretty fucked up at the end I recommend it its a great time travel flick
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>>100405845
OH MY GOD
HOREE SHIT!
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>>100418156
Right. But they didn't change anything.
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Is Jonathan the weakest jojo?
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>>100418306
at least he can walk
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>>100418306
He was a ripple prodigy, he could do some really cool shit with it.

Joseph was probably the weakest but made up for it by being a fucking rusemaster and lucky as shit.
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>>100418252
They didn't in that they weren't changing the past. However they were still changing things in as far as they now stole a bundle of money scamming. Now they had huge time limitations but in essence as long as you're supposed to change it they you can.
A scenario
One you're in a fight that you would have lost solo. Future you comes back and kicks the enemies ass with you. You go back and return the favor. Sure you didn't change the time line but you changed the out come of the battle through time travel.
Stable loops are a self fulfilling prophecy but not weak or unable to change the course of events in the slightest. Rather they are factored into the time line rather than directly altering it.
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>>100418497
The pillarmen were much stronger than normal vampires. That means that Joseph must have been stronger than Jonathan.
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>>100409041
They also kept the error in that >>100406870 scene where Joseph is holding Straits with one hand and in the very next shot it changes to the other hand.
And the coffin.
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>>100418306
The question is, who is the strongest?
No Gio with GER.
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>>100418617
He didn't beat them through sheer strength, he beat them by applying his abilities in the best manner possible.
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>>100418737
Sheer strength doesnt mean shit
Jonathan would never scratch a pillar man, maybe santana
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I think it was still technically more Joseph's blood than Dio's since Dio sucked probably like an hour before. And the only part of SC Dio that is 100% vampire is the head, which doesn't produce blood cells.
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>>100406492

If you aren't using ripple breathing, there's no reason you wouldn't become a vampire. Straights just stopped using the ripple (until he killed himself with it).
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>>100418714
Jotaro. Time stop is pretty good.
Just started with SBR though, so I don't know what Johnny and Jo2uke can do
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>>100418970
jo2uke is broken as fuck, no spoilers
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>>100418783
I wasn't implying it did. I was just contesting the guy who said that Joseph must be stronger than Jonathan cause he beat the pillar-men.

He didn't beat them cause he was strong. He beat them cause he was smart.
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>>100418989
I think it's the most versatile.
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>>100418783
>Implying that Jonathon wouldn't strike down a pillar man with Luck & PLuck
I think you're underestimating a true gentleman's spirit. Araki would find a way no promises that it would be less bullshit than what actually happens.
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>>100419061
Are you talking about muscles? Because I'd say that if Jonathan's ripple wouldn't have been able to scratch the Pillar Men then he would be less powerful than Joseph.
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>>100419061
Well that still makes him stronger than jonathan
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>>100419157
His ripple is stronger than Joseph's, but he won't be able to beat them by just having a strong ripple.

>>100419190
I guess it depends on how we're defining strength.
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>>100418306
>>100418617
I think Jonathan was physically the strongest one and he also had the most powerful hamon after Zeppeli died.
But Jonathan wasn't as clever as his descendants and most of the time he just punched his enemies with raw hamon. So Joseph managed to do better by using various techniques.
>>100418970
Johnny becomes pretty strong, though not broken.
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Does anyone know when Jojolion spoilers are out and if there's going to be info about P3 anime?
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>>100419422
> when Jojolion spoilers are out
There is a raw already. http://www.sendspace.com/file/h6z1y6
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>>100419494
Thanks
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>>100419494
Niiice.
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>>100409345
Just that sample music alone give me 10 hard ons.
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>>100405845
If Dio's blood was exposed to sunlight at some pont before putting it back in Joseph, that would have probably naturally de-vampirized it.

Then again maybe it was in there residually and helped Joseph come back to life. To be completely exsanguinated for a few hours is not something you just fucking spring back to life from.

While we're at it I think Stroheim fused a bit with Santana just slightly since they were connected for a few minutes (and Santana did not expect to leave that body suddenly) and gained some residual strength/power from that, which would explain how he could survive a grenade going off in his face , all the nazi cyborg shit and his otherwise superhuman nature such as jumping onto a flying plane (and then out of it and surviving), surviving a volcano going off a couple hundred feet away, and having a grip on his cyber arm strong enough to pin down fucking ultimate cars even if only slightly.
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Now for another mystery
Who did Jotaro fuck to make Jolyne?
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>>100419773
A shark.
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>>100419773
Some girl.

She appears in some chapters.
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>>100419739
>thinking that some supernatural bullshit happened with Von Stroheim
>Not understanding that German science is the best science
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>>100419773
The random girl who joined them for some time in P3?
How did Jolyne's mother seduce Jotaro? Dolphin sounds?
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>>100419852
She used echolocation.
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>>100419852
I think Jotaro's bio said that he likes traditional Japanese women. Maybe she's like an octopus or some other native Japanese fish.
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>essentially have a hand fetish
>mfw part 4

I'll try not to kill anyone.
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>>100414762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rhNdQMUMeg
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>>100420082
That's reassuring
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>>100418516
So you changed the future. You didn't change the past.
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>>100420102
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>>100417421
>>100417110
Its name would be "Yesterday"
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>>100406595
Because Joseph lost a lot his sleight of hand feats in the 50 year difference.
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>>100420335
Didn't you read his post? That's what he said.
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>>100420335
Its the same logic for either scenario and honestly the only difference between past and future would be perception.
Say character X was saved by a random passerby, grows up tell the time user about it. The user then goes back and saves character X. What was changed, the past or the future?
The cheeky answer is nothing but that isn't true because without the user X would be dead.
The reality would be that the timeline wasn't changed because it would always turn out that way thus 'stable' time loop. Stable time loops are like a footnote on a printed book. Unstable travel would be like deleting a sentence or rewording a paragraph before publication.
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>>100420792
Time is non-existant anyway.
Even if you manage to wormhole to an exact replicate of our universe at a certain time, the unpredictability factor would never allow that universe to proceed like ours did.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to party poop, I like time travelling theories as well, but time travel is impossible.
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>>100419739
>Stroheim
>Supernatural shit
BBBBBBBBRAAAAAKAMONOGAAAAAHHH
DOITSU NO KAGAKU WA SEKAI ICHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>100421006
Don't get me to talk time travel theories with higher concepts anon. This was about a stand. It was at least being related to common fictional time concepts albeit far less linear.

Fyi we constantly prove shit wrong in frontier concepts. I'd be surprised if WE could alter time but I would be more surprised at the complete impossibility you're talking about being true. When everyone has an opinion its hard to put weight on any of them without actual backing up.Which like none of them can do viably with what they currently have. Its like talking about dimensions. There are too many theories based on relatively new and unfamiliar concepts to be entirely sure of anything yet
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>>100406492
He used the mask on himself, that overrides being a ripple user
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>>100421720
except it doesnt moron
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>>100417421
>>100417110
In the end this stand user goes so far back in time he ends up in the pre-set universe and becomes Cars' teacher.
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>>100421840
>this man is an astronaut and he always tells Cars how awesome space is
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>new jojolion raws today

YESSSS
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>>100421530
Fair enough.
I think actual time travel is still impossible, but let's keep our opinions to ourselves and not derail this thread.
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>>100406492

Straits wasn't using Hamon breathing in his vampire form though
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>>100416325

I think to be exact, the idea was that the World let him use all of the other Joestar's abilities. Nothing contradicts this theory. Dio was using Star Platinum's timestop and Joseph's Hermit Purple. Hermit Purple is trash though, so its almost never seen. Hell, even Joseph barely uses it.
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>>100422346
Then why didn't DIO have Crazy Diamond and Gold Experience's abilities?
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>>100422551
Josuke and Giorno didn't have stands then.
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So I have reading SBR and suddenly fucking Stroheim ! I'm like yes it's gonna be good but that was desapointing...
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>>100422346

I always thought it was that. It wasn't really well explained but it makes sense.
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>>100416692
>how did Dio hide in his coffin for 100 years when Erina used it to escape the exploding ship?

Maybe the coffin was left to sink once Erina was rescued, then Dio swam to it with his new body.
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>>100422346
I suppose another reason might be because of how Hermit Purple works.

For example, the target gets the sense that someone was just watching them whenever it's clairvoyancy is used. In other words, DIO wouldn't bother to give the jojos a headsup that he's personally watching them all the time if they were always aware of it.

I mean heck, maybe DIO could only use Purple Hermit as many times as it was used on him or soemthing (which woudl explain why it only was used by him once - because it was used on him once)
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>>100423022

Impossible theory, The World's timestop was used before Jotaro ever realizes he can do it too
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>>100422346
Wait wait wait.
So, The World's ability isn't Time Stop. but 1) causing all the Joestars to develop Stands and 2) being able to use these Stands' powers?
Whoa.
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>>100423131
Jotaro had Star Platinum before Part 3 even began.
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>>100423131
Jotaro may have not realized it but that doesn't mean he didn't have it or that DIO can't use it
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Hey, guys. Remember the whole cigarette smoke and nasal blood vessel thing from part 3? One of those extraneous details that never pops up again.
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>>100423479
Wasn't he just fucking with someone so they;d out themselves as a stand user?
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>>100423479
He was fucking with the dude.
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>>100423479
He made it up.
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>>100423705
It got better.
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>>100416692

Obviously he hung to the part the side that was underwater. It was the only place where he couldn't be roasted by the sun.
And Erina probably didn't want to take the coffin of the guy that just killed her husbando.
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>>100406254
that wouldn't make sense because Jonathan had to put effort into expelling Dios vampiric essence from his body when they fought
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>>100423815
that's not funny, zeppelli died that way
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>>100424118
That's because at that point Araki already forgot what hamon was.
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>>100424327
That's why it's funny.
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>>100424068
Then why did he spend 100 years at the bottom of the ocean when he could just drift until he reaches the nearest shore while waiting inside the coffin?
And why did the coffin sink in the first place?
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>that part where Polnareff tries going up the stairs

Dio is such a cheeky fuck
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>>100420102
At least he's seeing a younger-than-usual version of his mom.
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>>100424621
That would be so tedious for Dio too. He would have to stop time, walk down and pick up Polnareff and move him back down.
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>>100424621
>>100424697
Worth the effort.
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>>100424697
He could have The World do it.
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>>100424862
why does he look both ways if time is already stopped
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>>100424862
Oh, definitely. The first time I read part 3 and saw that I thought that his ability was some kind of reality manipulation. If anything, Dio's good at intimidation.
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the only part that really struck me as an asspull was Jotaro suddenly being able to stop time at the end of part 3. And what was up with the flyingÉ
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>>100425136
why doesn't the cobweb get fucked up?
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>>100425237
He because he went under Hol Horse. Watch the gif for fuck's sake.
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>read all the parts up to JoJoLion
>still don't understand how King Crimson works or time stands in general
How do you beat one without using an asspull?
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>>100425488
Weaponized server lag
Also I swear to God they changed how it worked once or twice. The easiest example is how the bullets only hit Mettalica tho. That makes the concept pretty obvious.
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>>100425488
Just ignore them or think of them in a way they make sense to you.
Hell, everytime I think I made sense out of King Crimson, some other guy shows up and explains it differently, and then I'm just more confused.
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>>100425488
It just erases time. What's hard to understand about it?
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Who else would make a good candidate for DLC in ASB?
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>>100426162
>dlc characters
But if I had to choose, Iggy
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>>100426162
Diego.
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>>100425621
>Weaponized server lag
I... I understand now. Thank you anon.

>>100426162
Strohheim
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All the main villain stands in universe one had to do with time.
P3 - Time Stop
P4 - Time Loop
P5 - Time Erase
P6 - Time Accelerate
The first main villain stand in universe two has to do with space
P7 - Inter-dimensional Travel

What kind of whacky things do you think Araki will do with part 8's main villain?
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>>100427244
Fusing events in time together.
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>>100426395
This why I love Jojo, where else would you see a sailor and an man with balls in his hair be terrified by chestnuts?
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>>100427244
Space Freeze
Space Loop
Space Erase
Space Accelerate
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>>100427244
Create Space
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>>100427849
Mr. President-like?
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>>100427890
something like the opposite of okuyasu
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>>100427946
The Foot?
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>yfw pic related
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>>100417065
GER wasn't final though, as soon as the arrow falls out it's back to GE, he'd need to stab the stand again to gain GER.
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Don't need to 'splain shit. Ripple.
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>>100428136

well apparently it only takes a prick on the finger to go requiem so its not like thats a lot of work
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>>100428272
How did Dio survive a ripple-charged Pluck through the face again?
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>>100428357
Willpower
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>>100428357
He just got plucky.
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>>100420082
I can't wait for more giant bara deer gifs.
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>>100428698
Ahahahaha I feel bad for laughing but man...
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>>100426313
Isn't he already?
Also, is there a release date for the non-moon version yet?
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>>100428780
Yeah he's in
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So what about those P3 leaks from UJ?

Were they legit or not?
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>>100428765
Relax it's only the 2nd best Zepplini
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>>100428842
No sauce = not legit.
And for the love of God stop using "P3" unless you are deliberately pointing out Persona 3 and Stardust Crusaders similarities.
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>>100428698
SHIIIZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>100426395
What's the summary of this month's chapter? Has someone posted translations?
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>>100422346
so, why the second Dio at SBR can timestop?
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Oh man, I felt bad for Joseph when he got old and senile. But then I remembered that he's at least not a Zeppeli.
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>>100417110
Doesn't Bite the dust time travel in some sense?
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>>100417421
it's called Another One Bites The Dust.

Also, a stable loop would still give the user the memories of the happenings... which can be used to analyse something as many times as one can loop.
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>>100432424
he was a Dio from a dimension where he developed The World and not Scary Monsters
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>>100427244
Space-Time, probably. C'mon, you know you want jo2uke to actually be the teen that saved josuke in part 4.
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Well, I finally finished Steel Ball Run. I've laughed, I've cried, and I may have grown as a person for reading it. It was truly an amazing ride.

But that ending was weak as hell, what the fuck? I had heard that it was anti-climatic, but you guys weren't kidding about that.
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>>100437076
Prepare for Jojolion and its main character.
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>>100437076
Wait until you find out how Johnny died in Part 8...
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>>100437076
I bet you think Johnny got a happy ending.
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>>100437076

I personally like to think that everything that happened after Valentine's death was an epilogue of sorts. Dio was never interested in the corpse parts themselves, he even wanted to trade the eye for Manhattan. Telling him how to avoid the most lethal threat for the end of the race was Valentine's last ditch effort to make sure the corpse wouldn't be used against America.
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Is there a scanlation of Stone Ocean that isn't shit?
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>>100437373
Why does Valentine look so ugly and fat at the start of SBR but then becomes hot and fabulous?
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>>100437696

Jesus magic.
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>>100437296

Guys please, I've been spoiled by literally everything of big note that has ever happened in JoJo. It sucks, and I don't know why Araki is choosing to do that.

With the rock, and the cold, and the Dio out of nowhere. Did he decide at the end that he hated SBR or something?
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>>100437766
Explain?
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>>100437373

I get why he did it, and it's kind of in character, but I still have mixed feelings over it. Moreso that from Ball Breaker and into part 8 Johnny proceeds to get shit on worse than any JoJo, even more than Jolyne.

>>100437696

Fatty Valentine must have died at some point off-screen. Right after fabulous Valentine shows up, Araki makes a point to show that Valentine is making noise when he walks. Fatty never did that, and it's brought up a few times. Jesus didn't do anything to change it, he just switched bodies.
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>>100406806
Aw man that's still adorable.
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Which one do you think will die?
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>>100437835

Keep in mind I haven't started on part 8 yet. But it seems to me that he just wanted to wrap things up as quickly as possible, and not the way they could end in a nice way for the story.

You don't hear anything about Gyro's family reacting to his death, and the kid that was a huge motivation for him just kinda gets handwaved into dying afterwards, and isn't freed by anything that Gyro or Johnny did. Dio showing up makes sense as it's explained, but personally I feel like it would have been better if he wasn't there at all.

Plus Johnny suddenly can't win at anything, ever. He loses to Dio, loses the race, apparently marries the japanese girl who shows up at the very end in maybe one or two panels, and then his death in part 8 isn't very noble or meaningful from what I've heard.

I like Johnny, he's a good character. But out of nowhere he became unable to accomplish anything. At least Jolyne's frequent failures were justified and part of the theme of 'fate' in part 6.
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4chan posted the wrong picture for some reason. Which one do you think will die?
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>>100416692
I thought it was supposed to be a timeline where Josuke followed Kira back in time when they were all fucked up. Although a person other than Kora made his time travel shenanigans send them too far into the past.
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>>100438304

I wouldn't be surprised if Gappy died, or he became kinda like FF did and his existance as Josuke ends and his two halves split and come back.
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>>100438304
Yasuho best Jojolion girl
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>>100438177
>You don't hear anything about Gyro's family reacting to his death, and the kid that was a huge motivation for him just kinda gets handwaved into dying afterwards, and isn't freed by anything that Gyro or Johnny did.
I'll agree on that one, just kinda happened to get freed unless I am forgetting something
>Dio showing up makes sense as it's explained, but personally I feel like it would have been better if he wasn't there at all.
You honestly expect one of the most loved characters in the series by the fanbase to not appear? Hell I don't even care for the guy but was hype as fuck when he appeared due to D4C
>Plus Johnny suddenly can't win at anything, ever. He loses to Dio, loses the race, apparently marries the japanese girl who shows up at the very end in maybe one or two panels
Haven't caught up with part 8, but the good luck guy had to win because "It'll be funny." and that's how it works most of the time except for part 1&2 where the love interests are thrown in early on as actual characters. Hell even so Joseph still had an illegitimate child with some random woman, and giorno exists because of Dio.
>I like Johnny, he's a good character. But out of nowhere he became unable to accomplish anything. At least Jolyne's frequent failures were justified and part of the theme of 'fate' in part 6.
His main purpose was to get his legs back. He stated that at the start. I think the character would at least be happy that he was even able to do any of that to begin with. Everything else was just icing on the cake for him
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>>100438521
But it's kinda sad that he didn't get to be happy with his family.
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>>100438667
HE'S A ZEPELLI. There is no way that guy was going to live.
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>>100438177
>and then his death in part 8 isn't very noble or meaningful from what I've heard.

You heard wrong.

Just read it already.
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>>100438751
I was talking about Johnny. His happiness with his wife and child didn't last long.
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>>100422688
At that point Josuke did have Crazy Diamond when he was young
>>100422702
Same thing with Addoul and Montain Tim he is speedwagon
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>>100438521

I can get what you're saying, but it does really seem like Dio and The World showing up was just kind of fanservice and wasn't really adding to the story. It just bothers me that Johnny just couldn't do anything successfully from the beginning of High Voltage onwards.

As for the race, I'm fine with Pocoloco winning by default. The guy had luck, and he didn't get involved in a bizarre adventure. It makes sense and works, but Johnny was just disqualified and didn't even place. I felt like it would have worked better if he had come in second instead of Norisuke and a bunch of nobodies, and that could have tied in more to the kid being freed.

True that winning the race wasn't his goal, but it still would have been nice. Especially with his dad being there, I think more of that would have worked. But instead we just get pic related
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>>100438877
>10 years

thats pretty much in the jojo universe....
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>>100436135

so, 2nd dio is a vampire?

2nd dio have Johnny blood? implied by >>100422346

2nd dio could use killer queen ability(kira is decendent of johnny)?
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>>100438177
>Plus Johnny suddenly can't win at anything
he regain the ability to walk again i think that was a pretty good fucking deal, and more when he stated that he didn't care about the race, that one was Gyro
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>>100439410

What? No. Diego's The World just did time stop. And that bloodline theory only seems to apply to living Joestars. DIO's World never showcased anything relating to Jolyne.
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>>100423705
>anime
I hope that's just to tie in with the other, similarly styled, images.
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>>100439626

Yeah I'm aware of that. Johnny 'won' by he got his goal of walking, but I still think for the story it would have worked better if he had at least placed at the end. It would have been a tribute to Gyro, and could have succeeded Gyro's goal of wanting to win the race to free the kid.
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Why is SBR liked so much?

It was a good story but the ending is ridiculous worse than Stone Ocean's IMO
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>>100405845
I always assumed VI was already a vampire and DIO just gave him the blood needed to regenerate.
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>>100416692

>Or who was that student who looked suspiciously like Josuke who saved the life of Josuke''s mother in the past?

Gappy

Calling it now, his clothes will probably change.with the hairstyle.
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>>100439750
yeah i get you i was mad as fuck when Dio won the race, let alone outsmart Johnny with Tuks 4
but at the end you could say it pretty work out well for the kid
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>>100439844

Because it was a good story. For the most part everyone hates the ending to it. Or if hate is too strong a word, just disappointed in it. I think it was just wrapped up as quickly as possible so Araki could get started on part 8 as soon as he could while the earthquake was still in the public mind. And I actually liked Stone Ocean's ending. It worked with the part's themes and it gave a lot of the characters great moments and send-offs. But I do dislike what it did to the rest of the parts.

>>100439983

Yeah things worked out for him, but I never really felt like he 'won', you know? He had already started to walk by the time of High Voltage so anything after that was just him getting beaten up, losing, and getting on a boat.

Don't get me wrong, I didn't want an ending where he suddenly pulls a win out of nowhere, but I would have liked it if he could have at least drug Dio down into a mutual loss, and placed in the race as a tribute to Gyro.
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>>100427354

>Gappy is a fusion of Jotaro and Josuke, with parts of Jesus and Kira
>Yasuho and Nijimura are just female versions of their counterparts
>Norisuke is secretly Joseph Joestar
>The villain is Kars
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Who got the worst dead of Jojo as a main villian
Diavolo>Cars>Valentine(If all the Valentine's dimensions suffer all the fate it take the places of cars)>Kira>Dio>Enrico Pucci

>>100439844
It was everything, the characters, the main villian, the situations with the plot device, and the fights really
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>>100440665
Diavolo>Cars>Pucci>Dio>Kira>Valentine

Valentine's death actually wasn't that bad, it was like being shot. It's pretty quick and painless.

Also, you have to remember what happened to Pucci. The breathed pure oxygen and then was literally beaten to a pulp. His and Dio's (who actually got blown up) are pretty similar in pain levels, I imagine.
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>>100440219
Yeah i understand the fact that he didn't even make it to the Top 10, and least he isn't the a loop of infinite spin
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>>100441010

Yeah i kind forgot about that but still if all the "you" of all dimesion suffer being buried alive and with the posibility of use D4C to escape of that fate is really shitty
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>>100428090

>That strum of Roundabout playing as he walks towards his fate
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>>100432424
He was given corpse parts so he developed The World, main Diego never developed his very own stand.
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>>100441498
>if all the "you" of all dimesion suffer being buried alive and with the posibility of use D4C to escape of that fate is really shitty

The keyword really is "if". See, Valentine didn't ultimately die to that. He died to the spinning nails.
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>>100441255

Yeah things could have been worse for him. I guess I just need to do like Johnny did and cut my losses and move on. I'm sure Jojolion will be great
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>>100441599

Well he kept Scary Monsters because of the left eye, and he still kept it after the eye was taken from him. I'd say that it's Diego's stand. He started to show new abilities that Ferdinand didn't have, like the camoflauge stuff.

I think different versions have different Stands. Valentine just found a Dio with The World, and he could have also found another Dio with Survivor or something.
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>>100442078
well, that make a lot of sense
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Invincible Trio only has 3 volumes left to finish Part 4 now if anyone's interested.
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>>100443677
It might be time for a reread soon. Poor Kira.
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>>100443677
that's great news, anon
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>>100416828
pocoloco? soundman?
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>>100443975

Sandman. I wasn't really happy with the way his story role ended up being either
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>>100443677

Last I checked they were started on a new volume, and trying to get colored pages for it
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>>100422346
So by following this theory we say that DIO, knew Holly's stand power and he was the one activating it so he could bring the Joestars into a death trap all over Asia and Africa.

What a dick
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>>100417080
Wait literally anything else that was still alive survive the time skip as well?

Shouldn't Josuke and the Morioh bunch along with Josuke and the gang still be kicking in the new universe as well?
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>>100444634
I meant Gio Gio and the gang.

Fuck
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>>100444679
That means a new Narancia and Mista... I BELIEVE
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>>100444611

Not necessarily. If Dio knew the Jostar's powers, he wouldn't have been shocked at Jotaro moving in stopped time. And that was just about the entire reason Jotaro did so well against him.

DIO never intended to have Joseph and Jotaro track him down, because he didn't know about Holly. He was probably keeping tabs on them though, since they're Jonathan's descendants. That's likely how he knew, but I don't think he intentionally tried to make Holly ill.

My theory is that his plan was to enjoy life, wait for his kids to grow up a little bit, and drink their blood when he could track them down. They're biologically the closest to Jonathan, and so it would work the best to get the body to accept him. Then he could kill the Joestars at his leisure with a fully mastered The World
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>>100444634
Well, pretty much everything survived the transition to the new Irene universe I think.

Thing is, we really don't know jack-shit about how the SBR universe is related to the previous one, if it even is.

And, sadly, I doubt it'll ever be expanded upon.
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>>100444937

Yeah, I think everyone is still alive in Ireneverse, just a little different. And if the final theme of What A Wonderful World holds up, then just about everyone still knew each other. Ireneverse Josuke was still bros with Koichi and Oku, and so on.

I guess if Irene shows up in Jojolion, that could do it, but it looks pretty strongly that they're two different universes. Since Irene's dad (Jotaro) lived in Florida, or something like that. And I think JoJolion's Jotaro is actually Kira, and he ain't in Florida
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i still don't get it, if Lisa Lisa's hamon could stop her aging a bit like straits, why couldn't joseph?
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>>100445195
He stopped training after Part 3. There wasn't any need for it.
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>>100444937
I assumed that Pucci was acting as an anchor for the repeating universe, so when he died before the time skip the universe had no need to accommodate for the existence of some faggot who fucks up the laws of physics. That in turned allowed for a new future to be created along with a similar but different past to allow for the new future to exist hence SBR.

Frankly it'd probably be easier to deal with SBR being a parallel universe that isn't related to Pucci's shitfit in part 6.

Something like that anyway, the Pucci dying = reboot stuff was pretty poorly explained.

I just want to believe that the GioGio is still a mafia gangleader with a bullshit stand, and Josuke is still broing it up with everyone in Morioh
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>>100445195
He didn't trained it, he decided to sell houses, care of his family and fuck random sluts in Japan.
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>>100445195

Generally accepted that Joseph didn't keep his training up like they did. Even so, he still looked pretty good for 69 in SDC
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>>100445195
Joseph stopped his Ripple training after he defeated Kars, he's still 100x stronger than a man his age, but he's missing the eternal youth look.
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>>100445227
>I assumed that Pucci was acting as an anchor for the repeating universe

What about Emporio?
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>>100445227

From what I could tell, SO actually showed three different universes. The base one, 'Pucci's version' where we had Jimtaro, but Pucci was killed before it could catch up to when he first started Heaven and fully make his own universe, and then things just fucked up and it imploded into making the base into Irene, presumably with Pucci now erased from it entirely.
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>>100445320
Emporio wasn't the one accelerating time.

The whole deal with Pucci being able to freely alter the fates of people in his cyclic universe is what makes me think that he more or less had reality bending over backwards for him.
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>>100445320

It was kind of vague, so here's my interpretation: Emporio was pretty much at ground zero for Heaven, and instead of being hit with the more speeding up stuff for Heaven, he was dragged up into space with other animals, where he was dropped wholesale into the new universe, roughly at the same time he showed up in regards to Jolyne and Pucci.
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>>100445467
I assumed that he activated Made in Heaven and then it just kept going since he wasn't alive to deactivate the time acceleration.

Hence why dying before he reaches the "zero" point where time starts accelerating starting fucking shit up and allowed for a completely different universe to be created, presumably one where everyone is still alive but with an altered Joestar history.

But then again I'd rather just look at SBR as a new parallel universe on it's own because that and Jojolion are going to be hard as hell to tie back to the whole Pucci nonsense.

>>100445568
Didn't everyone else get dragged up as well, sure not at the same time as Emporio but shortly afterward at least.
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OFFICIAL MOE POWER RANKING OF EACH PART

>Part 1 Speedwagon
>Part 2 Speedwagon
>Part 3 Polneraff
>Part 4 Okuyasu
>Part 5 Narancia
>Part 6 FF
>Part 7(Tie) Mountain Tim & Johnny
>Part 8 (So far) Gappy

Form groups of three and discuss
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>>100445766

Well I'd argue that Pucci did have control over time's acceleration. Otherwise he still would have been a blur to Emporio at the very end. If say MiH had an acceleration gauge, he had slammed it up as far as it could go because of how quickly time was passing before the reset. By the time Emporio set back down billions of years must have passed to get back to the point they were.

And time wasn't moving so quickly when Pucci was hunting down Emp, so he must have put the breaks on it so he had more time to get rid of the last remnant of the universe from before. If he had succeeded he probably was going to speed it back up to get to the point of MiH's activation which would then give him control of what happened, and everyone being aware of their fates.

I think yeah eventually everyone was dragged up, but Emporio it was more quickly because of his being nearer to MiH when it activated. Again that's just my personal theory on why he didn't just get reborn, and was brought back wholesale as himself from the orginal universe.

I'm with you on SBRverse being a new parallel and not Irene. It's too hard as it stands to tie them in. But if Araki plans on this being a trilogy thing, we might have it tied together in part 9.
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>>100446094
why they call gappy?
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>>100446094

>Part 7 not Gyro

What the shit. Dude sleeps with a teddy bear. He's easily the moest. Otherwise you're spot on
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>>100446380

Because he has a gap between his front teeth, and he has the same name as Josuke from part 4.
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>>100446120
I guess I'm still trying to figure out why the universe reset again after Pucci had died. I mean it would have made more sense just to leave it off with Emporio leaving Green Dolphin Prison and living on, but I guess that would have been too melancholy and it wouldn't have been a pretty dark end to a bizarre adventure.

I mean the second universe reset was just poorly explained. Making a different future is fine, but having shit get rebooted again is just silly.

The only conclusion that I can come up with is that Pucci and Made in Heaven were in some way connected to the repeated universe and when he died it was erased along with his stand.

>>100446405
Seriously
>That Nyohoho
>That ditching scissors for a teddy bear in his preparations

He's the moest incarnation of Zeppeli yet.

The real problem is that Mista isn't the moest Vento Aureo
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>>100446094
>Polneraff
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Does anyone have the friends of justice page?
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>>100446612

I think you're right. The 'Jimtaro' universe that Emporio set down in was one in which Pucci had directly created. For the universe to continue and follow exactly as Pucci wanted it to be, he needed to reach the 0 point of MiH's activation in the timeline.

When Emporio killed him before he could get to that point, the train went off the rails pretty much. The timeline could not become a closed circuit and be completed, and it turned into a Paradox. Emporio, being the only survivor of the original universe, is picked up and dropped into a new one that is the closest the laws of nature can get to the original now that Pucci, because of dying in the last one, has now been erased from existence.

It can't be the exact same as it was before, but it's the closest it can be. So that's my take on it. Pucci is the same as FF, the only way he still exists is in Emporio's memories. He can't come back even as an Ireneverse version
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>>100418362
DAMN
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>>100446628

>you polneraff you polneruse

I'm sorry
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>>100425488
Besides being unrealistic Batman levels of planning, Jotaro's fight against Dio is pretty reasonable even before Jotaro starts stopping time.
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>>100446906
Right the paradox being, how could this universe be created if MiH is never activated at the zero point.

I suppose time in a forward sense starts getting a bit meaningless in a cyclic universe where the guy who's at the of it to begin with is no longer there to be the guy who will create it in the future, so the universe with it's inability to handle these types of logic paradoxes just says fucks it and resets itself based on something that is similar to the old universe -Pucci and drops everyone off in it.

Or depending on your interpretation just Emporio because at this point Emporio is literally acting as a quantum observer for the previous universe and thus he can't exactly be made into a similar but different Ireneverse Emporio. I'd still say everyone was just dropped off because of that one panel with the ant being picked up and dropped off again, but still.

If that is the case then GioGio and Josuke have a pretty good chance of being alive as themselves or at least as a similar yet different version of them self, which is all I wanted.

I suppose Emporio literally being at ground zero for heaven makes him a better quantum observer then everyone else on the planet because he was there to directly observe and process the creation of the new universe.
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>>100447615

Pretty much, yeah. You might be right with the ant scene. It took me a while to get what was going on with that because it was originally 2deep4me when I read it, but I just accepted it as showing that new universe was being created in place of Pucci's failing to be born.

So while the ant and probably a lot of others are the same (because why would it change if the Joestars are changed or Pucci no longer exists?), the characters involved are the same. While personally I don't think Josuke is the same Josuke that we saw in Part 4, there's no reason to not thing there's an Irene version of Josuke out there.

I think the only character besides Emporio that could survive all the universe resets completely would be Giorno, and that's only if GER can activate on it's own to protect him. But he may have the arrow handy and see the time acceleration as a stand attack and so break it out regardless. And if he really was in Florida, I guess Araki could write a reason for emporio and Giorno to run into each other as the only survivors.

Though I don't think there's any room for that to be in part 8, and who knows if he wants to tie SBR's universe in with Irene's
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Why was he so amazing? I listened to each character's song during their arc all through SBR, and his matched up the best.
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>>100447995
I suppose the whole similar but different thing would affect the Joestars, but I'm just not sure to what degree outside of Irene and the prison bunch. I mean I only see the events of part 6 being dramatically dependent on Pucci's existence, but then again who knows, Diamond is not Crash and Vento Aureo along with Phantom Blood could have all gotten seriously changed, there really is no basis apart from conjecture.

I mean we can only assume that either everyone who was still alive was dumped off in the new universe and the part 6 Joestars got reborn in a sense, all of the Joestars were reborn, everything was altered apart from Emporio, Giorno and a few insignificant elements.

Either way Giorno was probably the least affected by the timey whimey bullshit assuming GER activated in time.

Really that last chapter pretty much got me hung up on part 6 for the longest time, I feel like I've finally gained some sort of closure from all of this now. I mean every other part ended with a sort of finality that I could accept but part 6's ending just confused the shit out of me too much. Now I can finally move on and read part 7
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>>100448483
Why are you overthinking a bizarre adventure in the first place?
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>>100448447
His design is definitely one of the best that Araki has done.
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>>100448723
Shit got 2 bizarre 4 me man.
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>>100448794
And you haven't read 8 yet? Pucci bless your brain
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I just thought of this, so here's a question for people that played ASB: Where in SBR does Tusk Act 4's head shoot off? It's at the end of Johnny's GHA, but I don't recall it ever doing that. It didn't do it when he gave the ORAORA beatdown on Valentine
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>>100446094
>someone else acknowledges how moe my husbando is

I love you
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>>100405845
>ripple

Did no one mention this or am I blind?
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>>100448483

this is just more of my own personal theory, but I think in Ireneverse, the Joestars are still all born and grow up similiarly, but I also suspect maybe DIO was erased along with Pucci. This is pretty shaky but this is my reasoning for it: Pucci couldn't have created Heaven without Dio and The World, as that's the basis for the Green Baby and from there Made in Heaven.

And naturally Jonathan still existed, or else Irene wouldn't be there. So if Pucci was erased, then so too would any evidence of Made in Heaven being erased as it's a paradox. Maybe this just goes as far back as say SDC and erases Dio surviving Phantom Blood, or maybe it erases Dio entirely. Either way, without Dio there can't be any Pucci or MiH. Plus from the very small details we get in What A Wonderful World, it seems that the Irene Jotaro has had a peaceful life. He never had that directly because of Dio.

If Giorno survived because of GER, this doesn't stop him but it's still a paradox. He would then be in a world where he didn't exist. Unless from some weird twist like an Irene Giorno did live, but was a son of Jonathan and Erina.

Stone Ocean's ending left me needing to digest it for about a week, and I just finished SBR tonight. You're really going to love part 7 but fair warning, the ending isn't nearly as good as SO was.

>>100448723

For me, this sort of stuff is always really fun to think about. Especially with how crazy Stone Ocean ended up being at the end. It's the only ending where I can sit here and really mull over what happened
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>>100449490
Man, Emporio truly has seen some shit,.
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>>100449615

The ending is one of the big reasons I like him. It really solidified Stone Ocean as one of my favorite parts. I ended up loving all of the main cast
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>>100428287
But Gold Experience was cut by the arrow multiple times in the Black Sabbath fight and nothing happened. First he grabbed the arrow and his hand got cut, the second time he got pricked in the neck by it, the third time it went clear through his hand when he tried to protect Koichi.
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>>100409041
>>100408928
>david

i really thought this "david" was a person
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>>100449490
I'm not particularly sure, but technically GioGio isn't actually Dio's son but Jonathan, still he would be walking around as paradox assuming that he didn't get dropped into the new universe as the boss again.

Emporio is the only guy who got majorly traumatized by all of this, I mean he definitely shouldn't exist, and only does because he is more or less the only observer of the previous universe, watching all of his friends die horribly I'm glad that in the end everyone was able to meet up again (except for Foo Fighters, but who knows she was a creation of Pucci after all but she did end up becoming her own personality in the end).

Most likely GioGio just ended up not being remade into a similar GioGio thanks to GER but just ended up being dropped into a semi-plausible scenario where he would still exist as a Mafioso.
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>>100425020
because whoever drew it is a moron
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>>100449940

That's the way I think of GioGio showing up in the new universe. Or simply he's in one where he never existed before, maybe like Emporio. No one knows him, because he wasn't born. If he exists in the Ireneverse, it would be purely as himself from the old one due to GER's complete ability to negate things.

As for Foo Fighters, I think the plankton she was made of exist. That was touched on a bit when she died, and it's the tragic part of her character. The plankton, or even the stand Foo Fighters might exist in the Ireneverse, but it will never be F.F. or anything like her. She was F.F. purely because of the events of part 6 and her experience from that making her into a unique person. She can't be recreated or replicated, so now she only exists in Emporio's memories. Otherwise she would have been picked up by Irene and Annakiss
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>>100450201
But considering that the new universe is meant to be similar to the old he still should have been drawn to Bucci and the gang even if he is an existence like Emporio.

Yeah it's a shame but Foo Fighters only wanted to be able retain her sense of self to the end, and to that end she accomplished it. She ended up as one of the more fulfilled characters in Stone Ocean to that end.
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>>100438381
shit nigga, when Kira got his requiem, I was so fucking sure he blast Josuke into the past or something
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>>100450437

Kira never got a requiem. Otherwise Killer Queen would have changed in appearance and have a whole new power range. Apparently there's a different result from a stand user being stabbed a second time, and the stand itself being stabbed with the arro
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>>100450664
What would have happened if killer queen got the arrow?
Bombs to periods of time? To everything? 9/11?
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>>100450877
Another one bites the dust can literally blow people through time.

So something like that except 3000% more extreme.
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>>100450877

That's the problem with Requiem, there's no way to tell what the hell it will do. Silver Chariot went from being a stab ghost to being a ghost that made people fall asleep and force everything to evolve. Gold Experience went from being a punch ghost that could give life to inanimate objects to something that would nullify anything it touched.

Requiems seem to have nothing at all to do with their base stands. At least with Bites the Dust you can speculate that maybe the user getting stabbed a second time will give them an ability related to their stand, but one that would help them the most at the time.
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>>100450877
>>100450938
Nukes through time?

So much for a normal life, Kira you super retard.
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>>100405845
Because DIO was dead, so his vampire blood didn't take effect.
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>>100451072
It didn't exactly evolve it more or less shoved extra-dimensional life forms into people by fucking with there souls or some shit.
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>>100451072
Wait that actually means Killer Queen Requiem: The stand that makes people not care about you and everything about your life.
We all have killer queen requiem?
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CAN KING CRIMSON DELETE HIS DELETION OF TIME?
LIKE, HE DELETES TIME AND THEN DELETES THE FACT THAT HE DELETED TIME?
CAN DIAVOLO TRAVEL IN TIME BY DELETING THE TIME?
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>>100451159

Right, I forgot that SCR switched souls too. Just more reason that it's impossible to speculate what a stand going requiem will do. It's does whatever Araki feels like having it do, I guess
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>>100451126
He was a bit alive, its never easy with DIO.
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>>100451295
He can delete periods of time, so he can't delete his own time deleting period of time, but he can constantly delete time every 10 seconds.
Think of having a 0.000001 second lag for a 10 second action that gets turned to a 0.000001 second action.
IT JUST WORKS.
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Why are the people of Egypt such assholes? They see an old man fall from the sky, bleeding, and they just make jokes about him.
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>>100451295
>>100451402
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>>100451311
>tfw araki was totally gonna revive dio through joseph's body but thought it was stupid and pretended it was a joke
>tfw araki was totally gonna make josuke have his hair like that because of himself but dropped it right after introducing time travel powers on a stand
>tfw araki predicted 9/11
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>>100451473
Why weren't Joseph and Abdul stoned during JoJo's unintentionally homoerotic adventure?

I forget the stand name but it was the power socket that magnetized shit.
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>>100451519
And this is the reason King Crimson is my favorite stand forever and ever
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>>100405845
Vampirism? Well Joseph got drained, then got a blood transfused. So most of Dio blood was already gone bad since it got air into it. But even if he would have gotten some vampire powers they were cleansed by the friendly people at the Speedwagon Corp.

I think Vanilla Ice got butfucked by dio then he bacame a vampire
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>>100451527

>tfw the high schooler who saved Josuke as a kid was going to be Josuke from the future
>tfw araki was totally going to have a better ending for SBR but dropped it so he could rush to part 8

>>100451553

It was Mariah's Bast
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>>100451712
I'm with you there. I feel like if I could understand completely, he'd lose some of his mystery.
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>>100451757
Hope you have a source for those shitty claims
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Araki, what ever happened to Achtung Baby?
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>>100423705
>>100423821
>Not one of the best homages to F-Troop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmIaL2BK1Zk
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>>100428698
I'll be the roundabout
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>>100451527
>>100451311
>>100451757
>tfw Dio didn't get half-revived in Joseph's body, living in the back of his mind and arguing with him.

>When Joseph dies he takes over completely
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>>100453428

>Joseph dies
>ever

Don't you dare talk about my husbando like that
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>>100406254
Wrong. You can use Hamon to kill vampirism but this is not passive. That's why Straits becomes a vampire despite knowing Hamon.
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>tfw every single character you love in JoJo never has a happy end
>all of them grow old and pitiful
>or die a early death
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>>100455555
Who are

Josuke
GioGio
Joseph
Ireneverse Jotaro and Jolyne

I mean if you want to get specific EVERYONE dies old and pitiful in the end.
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>>100427244
> The first main villain stand in universe two has to do with space
> P7
No, the final boss still had a time-related power
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>>100456657
Are you implying DIegO was the final boss?
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>>100418712
Speaking of the coffin, I loved how they recreated this scene.
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>>100437766
>and the Dio out of nowhere
That was a legit twist, and Araki only used things he had already established to pull it off.
Are you one of those people who call Pucci's death an asspull?
>>100438177
>But it seems to me that he just wanted to wrap things up as quickly as possible
It's possible. SBR wasn't selling well and it was already the longest part he had ever done, so maybe he wanted to wrap it up as fast as possible and move on to something different.
>>100440219
> so Araki could get started on part 8 as soon as he could while the earthquake was still in the public mind.
It wasn't the reason. He confirmed somewhere that the first chapter has already been done by the time the earthquake happened, so Araki actually felt the need to go back and add the earthquake part to it.
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JoJo has the rule of cool, making it impossible to discuss any flaws and deny it is anything less than perfect.
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>>100457461
>SBR wasn't selling well and it was already the longest part he had ever done
>moon-speakers dont like it
>west love as hell it

why japs love ruining good thing?
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>>100440665
>>100441010
> worst death
> Kira > anybody
You haven't read Deadman's Questions, have you?
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>>100418714
Jotaro with time stop. Josuke could probably beat him without time stop. If he insulted his hair, it'd be a stomp.
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>>100457714
Josuke would continue to move in frozen time if his hair was insulted. He'd be too mad to even know what time was.
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>>100457461
>It's possible. SBR wasn't selling well and it was already the longest part he had ever done, so maybe he wanted to wrap it up as fast as possible and move on to something different.
I don't think it's that. Araki, jokes aside, is getting old. He's 53 and will probably be in his late 50s, early 60s by the time Part 8 finishes. He just won't have the energy anymore.
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>>100457800
But he still looks so fabulous. I like to think he's still full of energy.
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>>100457869
I'd like to think that too anon, I really would, and even if he does, he deserves retirement. He's been working on JoJo since 1987. He should be allowed to say "no more". JoJo is my favourite series of all time and I would always love more, but to be honest, what I want most is for Araki to rest. Maybe he doesn't need it, but he fucking deserves it.
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>>100457422
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19489962
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>>100457669
Well, I've heard a rumor that while a lot of Japanese like foreign stylistics, they don't really like reading stories about foreigners, and that's why all JoJos except Jonathan, Joseph and Johnny are part Japanese.
>>100457800
Yes, he has also mentioned that drawing manga is more difficult for him now.
>>100457983
> He should be allowed to say "no more".
But he did. Stone Ocean was supposed to be the last part. I think it was his own decision to bring JoJo back.
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>>100457983
Well, if he decides to end the series entirely, I hope it goes out with the greatest bang ever. I want to be stunned by how awesome and bizarre of an ending the series will get.
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>>100458134
>But he did. Stone Ocean was supposed to be the last part. I think it was his own decision to bring JoJo back.
I remember hearing that Steel Ball Run wasn't going to be a JoJo part, but he decided it might as well. Not sure the validity of it, but I heard it somewhere. But anyway, he was 43 when it ended. Still pretty young. Now ten years later, and by the looks of it, Part 8 is finishing anytime soon. Maybe it's because I'm worrying over his health like a mother, but I just want him to finish up Part 8 and rest. Especially after I heard he used to work 12 hour days.
>>100458160
Sweet Jesus yes.
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>>100458297
isn't finishing
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>>100456612

>Joseph

One of the biggest Joestar men featured in the series.
Is a midget with dementia in Part 4.
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>>100458393
Who cares, he was full of joy in Part 4.
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>>100458297
And by "it" I mean Stone Ocean.
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/a/ is responsible in getting me to like this anime. am actually grateful for it. thanks /a/. so, actually how many chapters are going to be in the 2nd season?
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>>100460975
> so, actually how many chapters are going to be in the 2nd season?
152 chapters, compared to 113 in the first one. 16 and 12 volumes respectively.
That's why I hope it's gonna be be 3 cours, even though it's very unlikely to happen.
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Just finished Part 4. Holy crap that last fight. Much better than Part 3 final fight. But overall I still liked Part 3 better.
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>>100455555
>no matter what universe a Zeppelli will die
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>>100461479
if zeppellis always dies, how can there be any zeppeli lineage.
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>>100461535
Siblings who don't matter as much.
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>>100405845

Maybe because Dio wanted Vanilla to be a vampire, so gave him blood+vampire extract the same he used when was sucking Jonathan's blood (pic related)

maybe...
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just noticed this, how can a story about vampire hunting can be so awesome.
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>>100445467
>presumably with Pucci now erased from it entirely.
Wasn't Pucci reincarnated in SBR as Wekapipo?
>dude steps into beloved little sister's love life
>gets the worst possible result for her, and he steps in again
>fucks it up EVEN HARDER
>needs to go on a penance quest to make himself feel better
>meets Dio
>gets fucked over by Dio (but that's more a quality of Dio than of Pucci/Wekapipo than anything else)
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>>100462275
I thought Pucci was Gyro's father

they look almost the same
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>>100424501
Because he was already losing energy and he had no choice but to decapitate sexy joestar's head and take over the body, and so for 100 years, he tried to preserve his body.
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>>100462654
Na, that's just Araki sameface
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>>100419773
I don't know, buit her yare yare dawa in Jojo Asb is fucking amazing.
My dick.
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>>100422129
oh shit really?
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>part 5 was the first part set in the 2000s
>diavolo wanted to stay hidden, with no-one knowing him
>mfw I finally realise he was a 21st century schizoid man
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>>100471301
heh
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>>100471301
not bad
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>thread is a day old

>/a/

HOW
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>>100472184
good series make for good threads
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>>100472184
Several day threads are not even that rare.
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>>100458393
He's pretending to be senile.
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>>100455555
> Even in another universe, Jonathan must suffer and die early.
> still can't defeat Dio
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>>100473016
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>>100472184
this isn't 2009 anymore mate

/a/ isn't as active as it used to be
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>>100448782
Agreed.
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>>100475033
That image is fantastic.
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So, April 4th, huh.
When will you start rewatching parts 1 and 2, /a/?
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>>100475033
In my opinion him and Black Sabbath are the best looking stands.

I also quite like the design for Killer Queen, D4C and Soft & Wet as well.
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>>100475212
Blackmore is fantastic.
He's my favorite secondary villain.
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>>100455555
>all of them grow old or die early

it's the same in real life too baka
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>jojo thread
>382 replies
>no one's posted this yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BivZ730LHQ8

プンプンするぜ!
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>>100475316
Black Sabbath doesn't have enough art.
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>>100457869
there's a video of him doing weird shit with Shokugeki no Soma's mangaka uploaded recently in the Jump youtube channel, he still seems very lively
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>>100475460
>that video
>that Gyro
>those parts where they flash through all the parts
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>>100475742
He said in an interview that he liked the monthly releases, I suppose he isn't as stressed as with the weekly schedule. He also mentioned his idea is to retire when reaches 60
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>>100475742
>you will die in Araki's lifetime
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>>100475817
>He also mentioned his idea is to retire when reaches 60

He meant 600. No need to worry.

Seriously though when he retires it will be pretty odd for some people who have been reading JoJo for all their life. But at the same time I wonder if anyone who was a kid in 87 in Japan and read Phantom Blood would still be reading JoJoLion now.
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>>100475460
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwjQ-ow3dDQ
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>>100476245
>I wonder if anyone who was a kid in 87 in Japan and read Phantom Blood would still be reading JoJoLion now.

Probably not. The original Jojo fans were HnK fans who wanted more.
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>>100476686
>tfw I have a huge boner for Part 1 because Fist of the North Star is my favourite manga/anime.

And yet I like some other parts more than Part 2, strange.
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Am I the only one who think original Kira was a handsome bastard?
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>>100478197
Apparently your PC thinks he was a scary bastard.
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>>100473331

This bothered me a lot more than I thought it would
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>>100478197
Obviously not.
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One of the reasons I'm excited for SDC to start airing is because we'll be able to have threads like these more often. It looks like most JoJo threads die before they hit 100 posts
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>>100446094
Larger version of pic
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>>100475742
Link if you please? I've been looking for that since I heard it existed.
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>>100456612
Did GioGio survive the universe reset? I think so.
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>>100479669
Don't bother, the stuff on yt is just short teaser clips from the actual content. Which I'm assuming is only available through eh Jump LIVE app.

I tried downloading it from the play store but it says my phone is incompatible, might be region restricted, shit out of luck until someone in nipland manages to rip the video from the app and uploads it.
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>>100475821
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>>100472184
Jojo threads used to be long lived back in the days when there was no anime.
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>>100480654
Since no one has ripped the first Jojo's kitchen from the app yet, we will most likely not see Araki trying to eat surströmming in a while. I don't know if they have mentioned if there's a comic this time as well. Hopefully it will get ripped like the last one.
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>>100461325
>didn't like the dio fight
>liked part 3 over part 4

what the fuck is up with this guy
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>>100479099
>wanting more people on jojo threads
no, this thread is pretty high quality compared to the usual, havent you learned anything?
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>>100406806
Such a good dad.
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>>100481622
So youthful.
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I've just started reading Part 7 recently. I think I finally understand people who call Johnny moe.
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>>100475278
>rewatching an anime I've seen twice based on comics I've read twice
Eh probably some time in March.
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>>100483842
I think Johnny is way too much of a downer to be called that. Gyro is the one with the cute character traits.
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>>100483842
Wait till that nigga gets the fire in his eyes.
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Thread still going? Time for best side character
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>>100484592
Dude looks like a lady.
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>>100484592
>Tfw Polneraff totally fucked Narancia over
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>>100484903
I really thought he was a girl the entire time
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>>100461535
by having bastard children.
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SDC had some quality stands
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>>100488062
>Sweet Oingo and Hell Boingo
It never gets old
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>>100461574
Cesar had a bunch of those, Gyro too.
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>There will never be a Speedwagon lineage
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>>100484903
>>100486347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0oXY4nDxE
I really want to think Araki did the design on purpose considering his stand.
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DOITSU NO KAGAKU WA SEKAI ICHI
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>>100483842
I find it strange that there was no paraplegic girl in Katawa Shoujo.
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>>100491339
Nowdays, it's not as much as a disability as the others.
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>>100491339
Because paraplegia = frigidity.
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>>100484086

Seriously. Johnny can be cute in the 'this guy has serious issues' and he's crippled, but Gyro is the real moe of SBR. Lucy may be the little girl, but Gyro is the purest, and the moest.

I seriously do not understand why people have not got this by now, it's basic stuff
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>>100491339
Not as fuckable as the other girls, I suppose.
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>>100491339

One thing I noticed a lot in SBR was that Johnny has the juiciest booty in JoJo outside of Jolyne and Hermes
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>>100491415
A paraplegic girl would've had much more physical limitations then Emi, who could move around relatively free and even exercise.
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>>100492408
She could have been a tsundere who falls off the chair after complaining. I SEE IT.
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>>100492408
Put some metal legs on her and she's good to go. Or maybe German science. I don't know anything about katawa shoujo
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>>100425488
Have you seen the Futurama episode with the time skips? Yeah. Most of the time, it just confuses people then punches them in half.
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>>100493418

That reminds me of the often brought up idea of a JoJo dating VN. Some things should never be born, though.
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>>100495120

That's a pretty good explanation. I think if the translation for King Crimson was 'Skip Time' and not 'Crash Time', he would be a lot less confusing.
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>>100495268
I'm sure fujoshis would schlick to it.
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>>100482129
except for josuke
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If there was a stand that let the user cross manga panels, what would it be named?
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>>100495733

In Joseph's defense, he had no idea he had a son, and when he did find out he nearly died to try to look good in front of him. You can't fault the guy for trying when he did know about Josuke.
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>>100495863

Take On Me
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>>100495936
Wow, clever.
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>>100495595

If one were made which would be more fun to make/read? A cross-part story with all the JoJos? Or one based in a parts storyline, like the MC being a girl going to Morioh High in part 4, or the Steel Ball Run race?
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>>100496055

Oh shit, I didn't even know there was a gif of that. It was just the first song to pop in my head because I always liked it.
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>>100495268
I'd gladly be Jolyne's wife
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>>100495936
Now, how much hilarious dickery would this stand lead to, and would it be in the possession of a good guy or a bad guy?
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>>100496111
Dating sim that ends up with the girl self-insert MC in a gangbang with all of the male Jojos.
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>>100417421
as useless as boingo's book?
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>>100423172
it also worked in reverse with josuke
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>>100496363

I think it would work best as a bad guy stand. Just think of the weird shit that could be done with it.

As it breaks the fourth wall by existing, the user is seen as insane and the other characters can't perceive how it works. To them the user skips time and space, moving from one moment to the next, and even capable of moving distances. Like going from a wide shot of the battleground, to a panel with the JoJo's reaction face, now with the user behind them.

It could be like King Crimson but with the survivability manuevers of D4C
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>>100496442

MY PREDICTIONS ARE NEVER WRONG BRO
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>>100496679
Sneaky
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>>100484592
Narancia a cute
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Would Dio actually be able to stand a chance against any of the true blood vampires in Part 2?
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>>100497289
No.
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>>100496554
>in reverse
?
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>>100497289

What? They were made in the same way Dio became a vampire, the mask. From the way things look, Dio was just an ordinary vampire like they were, but he was damn good at being one and actually tried out a lot of the powers.
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>>100497289
With Stand - obviously yes.
Without - maybe.
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>>100497567
I think he's talking about the Pillar Men.
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>>100497769

I've never heard Pillar Men be called true blood vampires. Proto-vampires, yeah, but never that. Weird.

I guess for them, I don't think Dio could ever beat them. Ripple is the only thing that hurts them, and whether Stands work is entirely up for debate. And all the PM have to do is just touch him once and the fight's over. The World being short range, they'd have a lot of opportunity
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>>100496442
Boingo's book isn't useless, it's just increadibly specific in it's predictions.
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>>100475460

Ah fuck what's the tune at 11:44? I know I've heard it 1000 times but I just can't remember.
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>>100499525
That's Bad Apple.
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>>100499525
Bad Apple or something.
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>>100499644
>>100499664

Thanks guys
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>>100428014
god fucking dammit...
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>>100442268
especially since only root-world valentine was the only one who could use D4C
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>>100497991
I'd think Dio would fight the Pillar Men, fail,escape and then steal the Stone Mask+Stone of Asia just before Kars could use it.
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The invincible trio just released Vol 44.
Time for more Kira
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>>100503509
>that jii san below the couch
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>>100497559
crazy diamond looks a lot like the world
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>>100475742
This something I would show to show why I love JoJo: few other series inspire this sheer level of effort and just plain having fun. You need all the different parts, all the characters, settings, crazy powers etc.
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>>100503509
God, Kira had the perfect set up as Kosaku Kawajiri, but no, that ghost bitch and those faggots had to ruin everything for him.

I can't forget his joy over realizing how he could easily lead that kind of life, with a wife and kid, and killing whenever he felt the need to. Fuck, even his new wife was already getting more found of him than the real Kosaku.

Besides, if he did win, what would that change? Nothing. Everyone would go on with their lives without ever solving the mysterious murders in Morioh, then we would have The Godfather and then universe reboot, cowboy world, Jesus and Morioh again.

Why can't the good things last?
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>>100504489
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>>100499644
>>100499664
What if Touhous had stands?
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>>100504489
Beign a Kira is suffering.
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>>100504649
Don't start this.
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>>100503509
I've been waiting for this!
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Why is Daiya so god damn unf?
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Can Shiki kill the Ultimate Being?
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>>100505311
Sugar Mountain's design was so good that Araki probably felt it would be a waste not to repeat it in JoJolion.
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>>100504489

Some loves just aren't meant to be, anon
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>>100503509
Did Kira slam dunked that pussy?
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>>100505401
Cars is basically Type-Earth.
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>>100497289
>Dio's weakness = ripple
>Kars can use ripple

dio is kill
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>>100503509

Invincible Trio really are the best JoJo scan group out there
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So there won't be any information or concept art about the Part 3 anime at all on this week UJ, right?
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>>100426395
what am i looking at here
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I think I'm nearing the end of part 6 with weather report and anu-whatever. Exacty WHAT THE BLUEBERRY FUCK IS GOING ON?!?! AM I SUPPOSE TO BE CONFUSED ON WHAT IS EXACTLY HAPPENING WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH MICKEY MOUSE??
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>>100505601

I doubt we'll get any new info on it until about a month before it airs
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>>100505621

Bohemian Rhapsody is pretty simple though. It just brings fictional characters to life, and can force it's target into being a role in the story
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>>100505621
Oh boy, you better hold onto your seat.
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>>100505681
Target is put into a role in the story, huh? So, does that explain why faggot face is running around looking for his piece of shit self?
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>>100505621
>nearing the end of part 6
>browsing a thread full of spoilers
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>>100505859
I literally came into this thread just to ask this question.
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>>100503509
are they still alive?
that's GREATO DAZE
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>>100505835

Keep reading, it explains it pretty thoroughly by the end of it. I think Stone Ocean is one of the best when it comes to really explaining why each stand does what ti does.
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>>100505470
Was that ever a costume for All-Star Battle?
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2000 and original series combined worth watching?
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>>100506053
Ehh, OVA leaves out a lot. I loved the final battle, though.
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>>100506107

Well, I won't lie. I am in a mood and JoJo is the only series that consistently appeals to me.
With that said, I never saw either and was just hoping it'd be something to tide me over till David saves us.
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I hope the JoJo train rolls on love enough to get SBR animated.
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>>100506353
>I hope the JoJo "train" rolls on "love" enough to get SBR animated.
6/10 I grinned.
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>>100506036

No, it should have been though
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>>100506353
Buy the BDs
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Oh shit, we hit the bump limit. I hope we can do these threads again soon guys
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>>100506855
I as well.
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why is this allowed
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>>100507549

Huh. I thought in the duwang version his shota bits were covered up?



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