Gurren-Lagann is the greatest anime Japan has produced, PROVE ME WRONG.
Not a troll, I truly have not seen anything that has come close.
Explain why exactly.
>>I truly have not seen anything that has come close.
you need to watch more shows then
Evangelion? I liked it better when it was called The Bible!
No, I'll agree with you. GL is probably my favorite show right now.
Mention some that are better.
Eva was badly executed and full of bullshit. This might be fixed with Rebuild, but the original series and EoE can not measure up to GL.
Too tired to explain, suffice it to say, if it weren't for gunbuster gurren lagann probably wouldn't exist.
Actually, if the OP is making the claim, the burden of truth is on him to prove.
And this is why I love morning /a/. Daytime /a/ would be the underage b& flinging sages.
JoJo, Kaiji, Eva, Gunbuster/Diebuster, Lucky Star if you don't mind slice of life, etc.
GL was ok. Not great, just ok. Get it?
Noein is THEEE GREATEST anime ever made. GL is good, but on a child simple-to-follow way. noien is a MINDFUCK pretty much at all times.
How can the villian,hero, AND 14 year old love interst of the show BE THE SAME PERSON?!? MINDFUCK!!!
Eva was not great, some are based on manga, Gunbuster is only good due to nostalgia glasses.
Confusing and "deep" is not automatically better.
Maybe so, but it still was not as good as gl.
Lucky star WTF are you smokin, if you want slice of life dont get that moe blob bullshit go get azumunga or something not lucky star.....
>How can the villian,hero, AND 14 year old love interst of the show BE THE SAME PERSON?!? MINDFUCK!!!
I'm guessing you've never seen an episode of sliders.
12years old first anime
GL is liked by two types of people.
1. Underage faggots with ADD that like explosions, shouting and bright colours.
2. Nostalgia/mech fags that think that oldschool/mechs is the best thing ever.
GL is an okay show with no depth or substance.
That is all.
Only original anime series would count. School Days is based on already strong source material.
There is quite a lot of substance.
Showed it at my anime club and it converted half of the people there to the cult of /m/. It really is not just underage weeaboo or mech fans that like it. Thing about GL is that a lot of people that like different stuff can like it.
It had a fair amount of depth and symbolism, but you're right, it was mostly just explosions.
Super Sentai had better mecha and it didn't need animation.
GL - Kamina = Shit
There's your proof. Can't argue with math.
No wonder /m/ is so shit these days.
In before an utterly retarded argument over the use of the word "substance"
I'll start: What the fuck do you mean by "substance"? It has a shitload of awesome over the top battles... and little else.
I'm going to need to see your derivation of this equation.
GL is a very fun show, but I wouldn't rank it up as a classic. The symbolism and depth is nice, but not amazing.
GL - Kamina + Starlock and tons of character development = Still pretty good
It had a lot of symbolism, and an underlying theme. Not very deeply hidden, but it did give it substance and there was more to it than just action.
"Pofessional opinion" says that GL is the most important mecha anime of our decade.
>Starlock and tons of character development
Clannad is better than Gurren-Lagann
It's the more substancial show of 2007. Prove me wrong.
Gaylock sucked, where the hell is GARlock?
Gurren-Lagann is the best thing sliced bread.
It is full of symbolism, philosphy, ideals and strong message about moving forward.
The concept of evolution is very strong in Gurren-Lagann, you must move forward, but you will destroy everything by doing so, will you do it?
The animation is superb, 22000 frames per episode is really serious. It's like watching five shows at the same time.
The characters are perfect. Kamina, Simon, Nia, Yoko, theu are more than chracters they are live people.
Gurren-Lagann is the anime that will define anime for centuries to come, believe it!
"Pofessional opinion" means little right now because everyone is still washed in the OMGHYPE. If it's still seen as one of the greatest shows in the next decade or so, I'll give.
Exactly. Every fucking time some retard starts a "PROVE ME WRONG" thread, I wonder how people can't understand that simple concept.
i'm going to go ahead and concur.
Yoko is a live person? Damn, /r/ pics.
GGG was better than GL, overall.
THE DRAGONZORD COULD BEAT GL, I LOVE THE DRAGONZORD!
Gurren-Lagann is one of the better productions in the history of the media, probably my favorite mecha show... but FLCL still remains as the ultimate example of Japanese animation.
In before PamelaNeko.
>>10040694 Gurren-Lagann is the anime that will define anime for centuries to come, believe it!
Go back to bed, naruto.
Gurren-Lagann is a refrence show.
Remove the references, and the only things that are left is a loud-mouthed idiot and a faggy driller.
In b4 "I'll go on record and declare Gurren-Lagann as..."
GL had a little bit of everything that's wrong with anime.
Loli, Shota, Moeblobs, Fanservice crap, and even a fucking furry.
The metaphors and character development and underlying themes were not reliant on references.
She may as well have been.
>>FLCL still remains as the ultimate example of Japanese animation.
Monster girls aren't furries.
yeah i did. cool show. good permise. BUT it was so sudden in noien and when they all met up and was like " we are the same person" i was like WTF?!? noien wins on so many lvls. and the best part? it is ORIGNAL!!! take that mech,harem,slice of life animes.
I'll go on record and declare Gurren-Lagann as anything but mindless, completely incomparable to GaoGaiGar or the like. The show is that of a strong opinion, one carried by an unflinching speech. The delivery of a multi-layered meaningful assertion is the ultimate objective, a carefully calculated achievement towards an "altered state of mind".
The narrative strips a media swallowed down by purposeless plot convulsion from unnecessary fluff and successfully intertwines in a concrete shape what is commonly recognized as separate: argument, theme and symbolism take a single. From the depths of nostalgia the forgotten but powerful voice of honest beliefs surfaces within a technique of representation built over naked, yet fundamental, ideas. In more than one way this essential notion behind the storytelling is deliberately old-fashioned yet actively forward-looking.
If you haven't seen anything that comes close, you obviously need to watch more.
GL was average, at best.
Do we have to do this every single day?
You realise it finished a while ago, right?
They were reliant on jokes in family guy. Beating up giant cocks wtf.
Another popular = bad person, hooray!
4 sage COMBO!
I've watched over 200+ anime. I'm an elitist that thinks even the usual stuff /a/ faps over, like Simoun or Gankutsuou, to be greatly over-rated. Gurren-Lagann is top of the genre. Stop with such retarded claims.
Stagnation, mindless progress and the very nature of human "evolution"; with a manifest yet subtle use of imagery such an abstraction becomes core for the script. They're amazingly broad, basically limitless, yet due to their handling tangible enough to be substantial. Textually knitted into the actual writing without even resorting to term dropping; eloquently described through a seamless combination of visuals, dialogs and raw feelings.
Even from the very first episode, the core theme is unconcealed to the eyes; enclosed tightly into the premise behind Kamina's constant claims of a "burning youth" breaking through a "ceiling" towards an idealized heaven of freedom. The physical "ceiling" keeping Jeeha village in the underground is just allegoric of a limitation decided by "those that came before"; something that could be called a "youth chained by the foolishness of their ancestors" if you wanted to be dramatic.
>>10040794 I've watched over
Shut the fuck up.
Come back to me with your "troll ratings" after you’ve watched the entire “World Masterpiece Theater”, please.
Oh yeah, well I've seen OVER 9000 and I still think Gurren Lagann isn't "the best of its genre". It IS good, but it just doesn't top it - especially not considering just how much mecha there is out there. I dare you to go to /m/ and say the same thing.
My child, I enjoyed gurren lagann, but it's not unique in the least, if I wanted to watch the same shit over and over, I'd watch naruto or bleach.
>This early prologue informs viewers from the very outset that the Gurren Lagann story will eventually take on a galactic scale and setting. The prologue sequence's obvious homage to Captain Harlock also prepares viewers to expect an anime series that relies heavily upon homage and inspiration from previous anime. In fact, after stripping away Gurren Lagann's references and inspirations from earlier anime including Getter Robo, Captain Harlock, St Seiya, Otoko Juku, Gunbuster, and Evangelion, there's really not much left.
>there's really not much left.
>really not much left.
>not much left.
Great show that people read too much into, and try to turn into something it's not.
ITT: OP is insecure about how much more awesome the dragonzord is than TTGL.
Many people in /m/ agree, the "your favorite mecha show" threads are filled with Gurren-Lagann as response. Some idiots are just angry the show gets more recognition than the "classics".
The problem with Gurren-Lagann is that I actually CANNOT think of an anime I liked more than it. Especially since I never liked mecha anyway.
So therefore it is my ultimate favourite.
Have seen this copy pasta'd a million times claiming it's a professional opinion.
What is the source?
THIS IS NOW A DRAGONZORD THREAD!
>Through it's seamlessly written script and quirky visual design, Gurren-Lagann delivers more than just nostalgia. Its idealization of yesteryears is nothing more but an structure, the actual content is highly forward looking. So far, the more important robot story of our decade.
Kunio Ikuhana, Utena's director
It's mecha Godzilla piloted by Tommy, it's hard to top that.
Anonymous on 4chan. BUT HE QUOTES OLDER ANIME!
FUCK YES! DRAGONZORD!
So how is it a professional opinion? Anon is not a professional. At least this guy >>10040880
Gives a name, even though he doesn't give a source.
It's delivery is unique. If you barely scratch the surface and watch anime as a mindless drone who believes SAC to be a worthwhile production, you won't obviously understand.
How can it be "forward looking" when half the series is homages to old mecha and shounen? Evangelion was more revolutionary in that regard. I don't think this decade will have an anime as important as eva was for anime in general in the 90's and beyond.
>>GGG was better than GL, overall.
GGG was half filler.
NARUTO AND BLEACH MOTHERFUCKERS.
How is it's delivery unique, hero saves world, his woman dies, yes, that has never been done.
So why does /a/ hate SAC again now?
And is unable to wrap their head around the concept that there are people who like the series and the movie? And the manga for that matter.
This thread should be about GGG, regardless of your opinions on it.
And Gurren-Lagann was too compressed. The plot developed too fast for its own good. It was very obvious that Kamina was going to die as early as episode 2, for example.
Evolution of the /a/nime expert
>>early 90's "DRAGON BALL Z is the greatest anime Japan has produced, PROVE ME WRONG."
>>late 90's "EVANGELION is the greatest anime Japan has produced, PROVE ME WRONG."
>>this week "Gurren-Lagann is the greatest anime Japan has produced, PROVE ME WRONG."
Gurren-Lagann is Naruto with drills, PROVE ME WRONG.
I enjoyed GGG more than GL, who cares about professional opinion.
And it was still better.
Super special SHIT.
Evangelion "revolutionary ideas" were as contrived from older works as Gurren-Lagann.
"Gurren-Lagann" tries to move the actual medium forward, something that goes beyond simplistic purpose.
>It was very obvious that Kamina was going to die as early as episode 2, for example.
No it wasn't. What are you taking?
He got character background that early. He was not the main character, yet he got most of the spotlight. It is typical for a "mentor"/role model character to die early as a device for character development for the protagonist.
Even /a/ figured so, if you were following GL eps from the beginning.
That's not "delivery", idiot. That's oversimplification. That's only the structure, not the actual content.
I'm talking dialogs, design, storyboarding, direction...
It's funny how the GL trolls succeed every time. Everyone knows GL is shit, but they still are perhaps the most successfull trolls I have ever witnessed.
You seriously though he was going to stick around leaving Simon to sit around playing sidekick? Simon who was the main fucking character?
That is going to fix the overused story, lol.
I think it's very funny how GL haters convince themselves GL is an actually bad show while never arguing with those that claim it to be an excellent show.
Speculation is not prediction. You can't just put up a theory, and then when it happens say "I TOLD YOU SO" when actually it was only just a possibilty.
It's like your post is crying.
>Everyone knows GL is shit
then why is it talked about all the time? trolling is not effective if no one cares about the show that is being trolled. gl has a lot of rabid fans, a lot of them here.
Lol I forgot this.
behind a facade or arrogance lies a sad, depressed, angry man.
The point about the trolling is that some people pretend to like the show, when everyone hates it. This enrages those who hate it(that is, everyone), because it is an offense against their very being, seeing as how if people like what they hate, it will become popular and therefore more shows like it will appear, and less shows they like.
"Story" is actually a truly meaningless concept in the large scheme of things. Classics of cinema or literature use simplistic, perhaps even clichéd, plot construction so that their true contents are not hidden underneath the fluff.
There's no point in arguing with opinion. Especially when those opinions are from rapid fanatics.
You're so sad.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes ain't been mentioned yet?
The same could be said of Naruto or Bleach you realize?
They provided a well-thought, actually understandable opinion. You're just typing shit out of your ass.
long show is looooong
>>10040481 Gurren-Lagann is the greatest anime Japan has produced, PROVE ME WRONG.
Or Planetes and Code Geass. Good thing I'm smart and able to see through the trolls. They're shit everyone recognizes as shit yet pretend they like! How arrogant of them!
OP was a troll. I'm talking about the more than 20 threads we had last week.
It gets me angry to see people pretending they like Mushishi, so fucking angry.
Don't forget the Princess Tutu false hype to make people waste bandwith on worthless magical girl shows!
The only reason GL is talked about so much is the mecha in it was forcefully powered up to make it top all power level lists.
Therefore fans just flock to it so they can support the strongest Mecha.
But it isn't the strongest Mecha, NEVER FORGET THE DRAGONZORD!
It's funny because it's true.
It's funny because you're retarded
How exactly does that make it bad? It ain't dragged out like most long shounen shit.
GL was not dragged out.
Butthurt GLfag detected.
You're an idiot.
I wasn't referring to GL.
I absolutely loved GL from the start. I watched the first three episodes several times while waiting for the rest.
Yep. I saw saw the first episode and went "They don't make shows like this anymore!"
I watched every episode raw while waiting for subs, and enjoyed every minute of it. Now that the whole thing is over, and the over analyzers have crawled out of the woodwork, and wage war over with the irrational haters, the glow seems to fade.
but I just need to look back to those days when I first saw that episode, and the sheer unmitigated joy I felt in seeing a good old fashioned super robot show again, and I can recapture that feeling.
My opinion > your opinion
I love GL for what it is. A fun well animated anime with a colorful cast of characters, giant robots, and a progressive storyline that will keep you on the edge of your seat!
I liked it untill his wife exploded
Everyone one knows it's Evangelion.
Every single thing in GL has been done before.
Yes it's cool but it has no merit.
Thats some pretty quality trolling. Fukken saved.
Probably the must awesomely presented love story in any anime I've seen at least.
HAY GUISE, I HAXXED GAINAX AND FOUND THE SCRIPT FOR TTGL EP 26
I agree with you OP but next time, just say "One of the best ever." Some of these people just can't accept it yet.
Pretty much. I believe the top 3 human achievements are:
they should just accept it already.
NOTHING has or will come close to gurren lagann in any aspects.
Why do I like Gurren-Lagann?
Is it the animation? The music? The characters? The story? Nope, it's none of that. I've seen other series, some were bad, and some were good. But TTGL is different. It's power, and it's greatness are off on a scale of it's own. My heart tells me that the beauty of GL is something unmatched by anything else humans can create. From the beauty of Nia's heart, to the beauty of Kamina and Simon's brotherly relationship, to the burning souls of the human race and Simon's journey through worlds, galaxies and dimensions.
It's a show where the culmination of the human mind lets itself roam free, to become the strongest, to take over all and save everyone from evil. It surpasses all boundaries, it does the impossible. It crashes, slams and breaks right through.
It slides past anything before, and surpasses them all. It's beauty and fiery spirit represents our hearts and souls. The very hearts and souls of the human race that we're a part of. It shows we can break right through as long as we have the power. That nothing can stop us if we try, that even the greatest enemies can be beaten. No matter the path we must take, we can move onwards, we can continue on our journey and we can do the impossible.
It's a break-through of the human mind, soul and heart. It's something we've never seen before, we'll never see again, and is definitely something none of us will forget. TTGL is the defining moment of the human race.
pretty much thats why.
I'm sorry, GL was awesome the first time around, but when I tried to watch it again, the story just could not get to me as it did the first time.
Princess Tutu however, I am willing to watch over and over again.
SIMPLY THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST OF ANIMUUUUU
I thought gurren laggan kinda sucked. It seemed to mutch like a shounen powerup with mechs.
>It seemed to mutch like a shounen powerup with mechs.
>it IS mutch like a shounen powerup with mechs.
fixed what i could.
you just don't understand the deep underlying theme
lol! that's my copy pasta of a copypasta. strange world...
list anime better than gurren lagann.
At least he used "I think"
That's already miles above other people in this thread.
Every anime ever.
No. You'd have a better time disproving gravity than trying to disprove the fact that Gurren Lagann is the greatest thing ever...ever
GAIA just kicked in yo
No, OP has not been proven wrong.
It's fact: Gurren-Lagann is the greatest anime known to man.
Nope. It's mostly trolls and a handful of deluded people.
gurren lagann is the hardest anime known the man.
Well proving Gurren-Lagann to be the best thing ever or not the best thing ever is a silly idea. You just can't do it.
If Gurren-Lagann is actually bad, though, it should be very easy to point out and highlight why. But no one has ever actually done that. Most threads are full of "It sucked because I say it sucks." or "It's not good because I don't like it."
Such is the way of 4chan.
GAIA just kicked in yo
from various anons in thread:
>no depth or substance.
>It has a shitload of awesome over the top battles... and little else.
>The symbolism and depth is nice, but not amazing
>GL had a little bit of everything that's wrong with anime. Loli, Shota, Moeblobs, Fanservice crap, and even a fucking furry.
>Gurren-Lagann is a refrence show.
>Gurren-Lagann was too compressed. The plot developed too fast for its own good.
>>10042615 Well proving Gurren-Lagann to be the best thing ever or not the best thing ever is a silly idea. You just can't do it.
Who are you and what have you done with the real cirno?
Every single one of those are just statements, and no evidence. Not to mention some of them are just outright wrong,
Again: If it's bad, you should be able to highlight why. No one does anything beyond "It's bad because I say it's bad." Your post has become my evample. "Those things are true because I say they're true. Fuck evidence"
They should make a GL game with Grand Theft mechanics. You can random gattai with ganmen you encounter. Add some sniper missions for Yoko and Space levels Zone of Ender style and I'd be happy.
>It has a shitload of awesome over the top battles... and little else.
decent symbolism for a kids' show about robots blowing each other up
>The symbolism and depth is nice, but not amazing
It's a fucking children's cartoon. Getting overambitious with symbolism and metaphors in children's cartoons usually comes off as pretentious and shitty; GL's symbolism was perfect for a show of its type. Fuck, even Kaiji's metaphors feel incredibly forced at times, and I love that show.
>GL had a little bit of everything that's wrong with anime. Loli, Shota, Moeblobs, Fanservice crap, and even a fucking furry.
Nia was a horrible character, I'll give you that.
Protip: underage b& Simon was never sexualized
Admittedly, it was pretty tasteful by Gainax standards.
>and even a fucking furry
Viral isn't even 10%, faggot
Also, Gunbuster is overrated horseshit with terrible writing, the most forced drama I've ever seen and nonsensically developed, idiotic characters.
All you did was respond to opinion with opinion. You didn't defend a damn thing. He didn't even argue a damn thing.
If this continues, all that will become of it is you two slinging shit at each other like idiots. No one actually saying anything but "It is ____ because I said so," "No you are wrong. it is ____ because I said so."
>it was pretty tasteful by Gainax standards.
Not at all. Compare the amout in Eva to GL, and this was a kids show. Some was kind of tasteless, especially in the first arc (admittedly, the story was less serious then)
>Leaving out all the references to 70s anime[etc]
Sounds like you are talking about a Key animu there, mister.
How in the world is Gunbuster overrated?
Gunbuster is like the wheel. It was a revolution. Sure it's nice and pretty helpful and all but you don't see people buying cars for the wheels nowadays.
That's a pretty hilarious image macro XD
>How in the world is Gunbuster overrated?
Maybe the fact that you're always labeled a troll here just for implying that it wasn't the best anime ever created? I know I'm asking for it by calling it an 'overrated pile of horseshit', but still.
>Compare the amout in Eva to GL
Eva had that scene of shinji fapping over asuka and plenty others, GL just had tits. Usually drawn in a really cartoony and stylized way which is pretty hard to fap to.
Some random copypasta = THE ULTIMATE TRUTH
Gunbuster was unoriginal even for its time, you can find a lot of its cliches in Go Nagai's 70s super robot shows, and probably some badly written soap operas.
GL was pretty good for a children's show about human evolution and over the top action vs. pessimistic Eva nihilism. It also had some really fucking impressive production values. If someone actually manages to deny these facts then, guess what, GL really is a mediocre show.
Go Nagai's 70s super robot shows didn't have Coach and robots working out and sexy female lead pilots. Sayaka is just for support and fucking.
Generic, lifeless mentor stereotype. So was Kamina but at least he had some personality.
>sexy female lead pilots
I thought you fags hated GL for having too much fanservice?
>robots working out
that shit wasn't even funny but I guess that's just a matter of opinion
>Generic, lifeless mentor stereotype.
Even though you made it sound bad, Go Nagai shows didn't have a character like that.
I never said Coach was ripped off from a Go Nagai series, he was just unoriginal and, in my opinion, boring and unlikable.
Can't believe no one's mentioned Dennou Coil yet, it beat out GL on a bunch of awards for shows that year. I'm not denying the merits of of GL, or all those classics that influenced it, but in terms of original anime, Dennou Coil is vastly superior. I wouldn't go as far to say it's the greatest, because that's a subjective question, and one not everyone will agree upon.
the most creative at least.
GL was well done and all that, but it did nothing "new" or amazingly imaginative.
I'm just saying that Gunbuster is its own series and you shouldn't compare it to Uncle Go stuff. His shows were the first ever super robot shows, of course everything else will copy some parts of it.
>it beat out GL on a bunch of awards for shows that year.
No it didn't. It won some of the same awards, and failed to win other awards that GL won.
GL and DC both won the excellence prize from the Ministry of Cultural Affairs.
True, but I still can't see what's so revolutionary about it. It wasn't bad by any means, but it had a lot of faults which its fans just won't admit (some of them go as far as to say that "IT WAS ALL *MEANT* TO BE POORLY WRITTEN AND OBNOXIOUS") which is why I keep insulting it all the time.
Agreed, Dennou Coil was awesome. Comparing it to GL is just silly, though.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Code Geass - it's Gurren Lagann with intelligence!
ahahahhahahah oh wow
A CHALLENGER APPEARS!
Get lost. You can't compare to my power.
Only thing this show did better than GL was the ending. Best end or BESTEST END?
Also Anemone falling scene was AMAZING.
E7 music was better too
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and OP was never proved wrong
since i'm just finising the first season of SAC, and i'm basically loving every second o it, could /a/ please elaborate on why it's bad?
It's not bad, /a/ haet good animu
>I've watched over 200+ anime.
looks like we're up against an anime expert here.
A CHALLENGER STUMBLES WITH CLASS WHILE SLOW AND CASUAL JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS IN THE BACKGROUND
Cowboy Bebop? Don't you think that is a little bit overkill? GL shouldn't even be uttered in the same breath as CB.
APPARENTLY, in the next issue of Newtype, to be released on March 10th theyre announcing a TENGEN TOPPA GURREN LAGANN MOVIE.
One movie will not be enough.
in before ban for "PROVE ME WRONG" bullshit
You want a better anime? I could name about 10 right now;
Pokemon first season
Digimon First Season
Spice and Wolf
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
No, seriously. You can get banned for "PROVE ME WRONG" threads. I got banned from all of 4chan for a week because of it.
Well at least you found one.
A very worthy challenger. There are plenty of faggots in this thread, but I don't think there's a large enough faggot that would bash Cowboy Bebop.
Luckily, Cowboy Bebop is both old, and good. Therefore, instant 4chan credibility.
also gl was good enough to be someones favorite anime so let em keep it until they are less of a newfag and have watched better shit
This thread shows the true faggotree that is killing /a/
Symbolism in GL...
DRILLS = MANHOOD
ACT LIKE A MAN AND YOU'LL ABLE TO DO ANYTHING