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I forgot Guts got raped /a/. Are there any other manga or anime with MCs that have troubled childhoods?
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Shirou
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Hellsing. Alucards gets raped. Apparently it makes you a total badass later in life.
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>>100398129
Only if its done by a huge nigger.

Hommando had a troubled adolescence
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>>100397085
awwwight

...

wait what?
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>>100398240

I thought it was a Turk that raped Alucard
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>I forgot Guts got raped
Are you retarded.
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>>100397085
Revy from Black Lagoon also gets raped by a cop and she becomes a slut and a killing machine
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>>100398289
>>100398129
>Alucards gets raped.
What, source.
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>>100399331
Hellsing Ultimate, did you watch the tv series only?
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>>100399365
I never watched Hellsing
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>>100399450
well why don't you go watch it then if you love raped protagonists so much?
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Most protagonists?
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>>100399487
I'll just go on Exhentai for that.
There are probably a bunch of Alucard raped doujins out there.
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>>100397085
>Are there any other manga or anime with MCs that have troubled childhoods?
yeah, they are everywhere.
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>>100397085
>that good feel when Best girl doesn't get raped

2pure
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>>100399331
Bite the pillow, I'm going in dry.
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Bitter Virgin is the only one that i know.
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>>100399923
This
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Thanks /a/ made my day(s)
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Faggot in this thread

No one mentioned Shamo
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>>100399666
I have the weirdest boner right now
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>>100397085
>Are there any other manga or anime with MCs that have troubled childhoods?
All of the Strawhats?
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>>100401694
As you should.
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>>100398129
Legato Bluesummers was a shota prostitute raped too and knives save him in the act
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Why do you guys only name male characters that got raped?

Is it your fetish?
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>>100399666
Is it just me, or does he look like he's actually into it?
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>>100402271
He's asking for it.
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>>100402095
For some reason it doesn't bother me as much.
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>>100402095
Probably because it's only safe to have male characters get raped, so that's what most authors do. Too much other shit to deal with if you have an important female character get raped.
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>>100399557

Surprisingly no.
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>>100402595
Well, look at /a/. If a female character got raped, they'd call her a slut piece of shit, whereas if it's a man, it's 'character development'.

There are double standards on both sides.
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>>100402595
revy black lagoon...
also her...soon
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>>100402995
Right, I never said anything about that. Basically what happens is some nerds flip out because their waifu isn't pure anymore, and women flip out because rape is "literally" the worst thing that can happen ever.

There was one manga author that basically retconned the rape of one of the girls in his series because fans started going crazy when it happened. May as well just not bother with it since it barely adds anything to a character anyways.
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Rape in my opinion is one of the cheapest ways to create some kind of tragic back story for the character. Or when it's used as character development. You often see this used in DC universe, for both male and female characters.
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It's implied he was gang-raped. Also almost sold out as a sex slave for old geezers.
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>>100403201
Sorry, my post wasn't very clear. I was agreeing with you, overall. Rape is a serious issue, and it has a history of being overused for giving female characters "character development". Of course, now that it's being pointed out that this is kind of a thing, male characters get the "character development" more often. This doesn't actually solve anything, of course, as it's kind of a societal problem, more than a literary one. And yet it's still a literary one, because if you handle it clumsily, it's pure shit that taints the rest of the work.

In the end, your summation is generally correct. And considering how hard it is to do it "well" and actually address it seriously and then if you DO do it "well" and address it seriously it can shift the entire tone of a work in a way that clashes with a lot of other things...overall, it's rarely a good idea.
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>>100403326
To be fair, if rape was as frequent as some statistics state, then it shouldn't come as surprise that people write about it.
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>>100403456
Well when you go around dressed like that, you practically are asking for dicking.

Probably need one as well
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>>100403571
True enough. But at the same time, if it's as common as it seems to be, then the odds of people somehow being touched by it in their real lives (survivor, family member, friend, hell, acquaintance) approaches 1. And the more people begin to realize this fact, the more many of them become somewhat uncomfortable with it being handled insensitively and, frankly, being reminded of it at all in something they're reading or watching for entertainment and some degree of escapism.

It's kind of complicated, being tied up in a lot of aspects of the human psyche at once.
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>>100403911
I see your point.
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>>100403911
>and, frankly, being reminded of it at all in something they're reading or watching for entertainment and some degree of escapism.

So bad things are taboo?

tumblr please go
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>>100399331

Vlad III was raped in his stay with the Turks. He also apparently bad touched his beautiful brother Radu, who was the heir of the throne Mehmed (a year younger than Vlad) fuckbuddy.
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>>100404334
He got raped so hard he became a loli.
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>>100404255
Did I say that?

No, I believe I said that some people aren't interested in reading about/watching it. And that's fine, they can read/watch something else.

But a side-effect of it being overused is that it will often pop up in something when they least expect it, and it can come up so often, it might piss them off somewhat. And they'll express these feelings to the people who write and create things. Sometimes a lot of them will do so, to provide a unified front, if there are enough of them that feel strongly about it.

What those creators choose to do as a response is up to them.

I'm not advocating anything one way or the other. I'm just pointing out that it's complicated. Oh, and I've never even been to tumblr, but then, I doubt a lot of 4channers have, either. I mean, I've never been to reddit, either, but I still loathe the place, for all the sense that makes.
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>30 chapters of rape
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>>100403911
>being reminded of it at all in something they're reading or watching for entertainment
Well, funny enough, apparently women can be "triggered" when there is no mention of rape at all, too.
http://www.shakesville.com/2009/03/trigger-by-void.html
So, when it comes down to rape victims being "triggered" by anything and everything regardless of whether there actually is any rape in the story, then we might as well use it for character development.
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>>100404523
>I still loathe the place
Is it because of the meme stealing? Or did I miss out on something?

I mean, I took a glance at it because I wanted to know what all the fuss was about, and certainly the tree structure of the site and the up/down voting system didn't make me want to use it, but I'm not sure why I should hate people who frequent that site.
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>>100402271
he learned to like it.
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>>100397085
>Are there any other manga or anime with MCs that have troubled childhoods?
Naruto.
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>not being raped
when will your rape be a catalyst for character development? whats your excuse, /a/?
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>>100404592
It's almost like it's such a pervasive element of being a girl or a woman that it causes some really weird things to happen to their perceptions as a consequence.

Those crazy broads, amirite?
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>>100404773
Probably that more than anything else. The sheer amount of forced meme shit I've seen that came from that place has really lowered my opinion of anyone that'd willingly hang around there.

Of course, I sometimes feel the same way about 4chan, despite not being able to leave it myself...it's a bit of a conundrum, to be certain.
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>>100405182
It reminds me of those two women in "The gender war" documentary, who never had any bad experiences with men, but who were indoctrinated that all men were raping beasts, so they actually believed that shit.
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>>100399666
Post of satan is best post
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>>100405346
I haven't seen it, myself.

But women are taught, from a very early age, that the world is full of rapists, so they have to somehow avoid all the rapists. And that if they do get raped (this part is less explicit, but believe me, it's made quite clear to them), it's their fault. Not the rapist's, not really, because they're just gonna be rapists, no matter what, they're like elemental forces of rape. No, it's the woman's (or girl's, don't forget, this starts very young) fault for not being vigilant enough, for wearing the wrong kind of clothes, for walking down the wrong street, for daring to drink alcohol or go out to parties or bars or basically anywhere that men will also be, which means basically anywhere. In fact, for some of these categories, women can fail so badly that they will somehow transform normal non-rapist men into rapists, at least, that's why they claim, but these men clearly aren't rapists, because the women (or girls!) were clearly inviting them to have sex with them, no matter how much they might insist otherwise themselves.

And if they know that if they ever get raped, everyone that knows about it will treat them differently, because they've been sullied, and you know, they were probably asking for it, so they must be some sort of turbo-slut that even transcends consent, they're so hot for the D.

So what's their big hang-up about rape? I mean, most of them haven't even been raped yet. Why can't they just take a chill pill and relax?
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>>100405684
Oh boy. No, that's not the effect the indoctrination has - at least not in sweden. I highly recommend watching the documentary.
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>>100405684
Alright shut the fuck up and go back to dumblr or reddit
muh patriarchy
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at least he got to ss with milf Amber
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>>100399635
Miura isn't that cruel
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>>100402095
Most of the time when a male character gets raped, it's fucking hilarious, It's rare to see it played seriously
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>>100404408
Suddenly I wanna get back into Hellsing.
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>>100402595
Funny that it's the opposite in western comics.
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I hate how this manga barely shows nipples, despite having rapes. I can just think of Casca and the witch from chapter 1, and that's pretty much the only moments of it I can remember.
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What chapters of Berserk have rape in them? I want to get my fapping out of the way so I can fully enjoy the story and action without being amped up with the hope that some fucking will go down then get dissapointed when it doesn't
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>>100406415
Full-on rape only happens at a couple of places(Eclipse, the Trolls, etc.), but nudity/sex are relatively commonplace.
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Wolf Guy Ookami no Monshou
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Eden: It's an Endless World sort of fits.

Kenji, who is more or less a secondary protagonist, gets raped multiple times as a kid.

And what really speaks volumes about the manga is that he got off easy compared to the main protagonist, Elijah, mostly because he didn't have much to lose in the first place.
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Shamo guy got rapped
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>>100406336
Did you completely skip over the chapters with Slaan, Rosine, Farnesse, Charlotte, Luca and Nina?
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revy got raped by a cop
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Are we ever going to get a new chapter? It's been over a year now/
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>>100405684
>>100405793
If you can spend 4 minutes of your time, here's the relevant bit for this discussion: http://youtu.be/yn3cHsHnUPM?t=40m2s

And parts of the transcript:
>To work as volunteers Emma and Ellinor had to attend a course about women's shelters.

>-I no longer look at any man uncritically, I never assume that he is sympathetic.

>-Did you see it this way before you got engaged with the women's shelter?
>-No. I didn't, not at all.

http://www.transcriptsearch.com.es/id/f98fY7NDKM8?lang=en
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>>100406710
OK from your little blurbs here it sounds like they encourage stereotyping based just on the sex of a person. Am I incorrect in saying that.
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>>100406591
So if anyone ever finds this image on your computer, what is your excuse?
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>>100406878
"it can't be helped"
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>>100406878

I need one? What the fuck are these creepy people doing on my computer in the first place.
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>>100402995
you are right anon
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>>100402995
The difference is that women in anime are waifu characters and males aren't.

If the guys from Free! was non-virgin rape victims they would be called sluts too.
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>>100406784
You are not incorrect, however it's way more than just stereotyping. It's not like "blacks like kfc".
They are radicals who managed to rise to power. There are many parallels to the indoctrination currently done in islamic emirates in syria or if you prefer older examples the hitler youth in nazi germany.
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>>100397085
>rape
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>Are there any other manga or anime with MCs that have troubled childhoods?
Only like half of them.
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>Get raped as a kid.
>Didn't get any super powers or bad ass swordsmanship skills.

This is bullshit.
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how many dark things happen in berserk?
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>>100397085
many anime
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Ciel was gangraped for days.

It made him kind of... well...
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The chick from Mars ot raped by her stepfather several times when she was about 11-12.
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>>100407036
Not really, it would just make male characters more sympathetic to fangirls.
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>>100397085
>MCs with troubled childhoods
Almost all of them?
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>>100401525
>>100397085
>SHAMO
This, you listening OP? Here's your answer, now get out.
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>>100397085
nge , you faggit
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>>100410067
Alois got kept as a sex slave and was raped multiple times until he killed the old man, however, it had a complete opposite effect from Ciel's.

Holy shit, what's up with this manga and little boy rape?
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>>100410931

Author is a perverted shotacon.
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>>100411057
My fetish. Except I don't really like it gay, I'm more into /ss/.
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>>100405684
It has nothing to do with muh patriarchy, I know a guy who got raped and people said the same shit " He was drunk" " "he didn't that care of himself" etc.
People do that in order to distance themselves from reality.
It is the same with diseases If someone dies from a hearth attack or lung cancer People will ask "was he fat?" "did he/she smoke?" Because they want to say to themselves " oh I'm healthy that can't happen to me"
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>>100397085
Eren Jaeger
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>>100411108
S-Secret Santa?
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>>100397085
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>>100406591
When the fuck did that happen?
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>>100410931
>>100411057
Actually, the author is a yaoi artist.
Kuroshitsuji was meant to be a yaoi manga itself, but the editor talked her out of it, saying it will sell more/appeal to a more general audience if she took out the sexy time between Sebastian and Ciel.
I think her yaoi art pen name was Yanao Rock/Roku
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>>100411267
Straight shota.
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>>100411848
Source? This is not how manga magazine works, you can't publish a yaoi manga in a shonen magazine, no matter how much you want.
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>>100411108
/ss/ is my favorite too, but there really isn't enough of it anywhere
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>>100397085
>Are there any other manga or anime with MCs that have troubled childhoods?
I don't think anyone in anime/manga has more troubled a childhood than this little fucker.
I am ashamed that no one has brought this up yet
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>>100411848
>yaoi

God, can't imagine what the manga would be if it was all about sex between some tormented little boy and a demon.
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>>100412127
I didn't really find his childhood troubled because I had similar one.
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>>100411848
I googled it to see what her yaoi manga look like and her picture popped out. Damn, she looks like pretty, young high-school boy.
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>>100412196
noone cares about you lol
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>>100411996
She didn't published her yaoi in a shonen magazine, it was only after she made the changes that she submitted her draft to them.
And I don't have a source for the actual thing itself, but it's on most of her artist profiles. She isn't particularly good at hiding it, apparently.
http://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=2823
>>100412137
Funny you should ask, she has a one-shot of a dark yaoi story about a tormented little demon boy and his human master.
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>>100412296
>reverse trap drawing shota por
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>>100412196
Your father had to hit your mother in the head with a microwave because she wanted to kill you and herself? You were never able to emotionally connect with anyone in your family? Your aunt raped you? You were driven to depression so deep that you tried to rape someone?

Man you have a messed up life anon
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>>100412345
I hope she publishes more shota some day, her current art is amazing.
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>>100402595
Because women getting raped is boring. Men getting raped on the other hand is p fucked up.
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>>100397085
Pick the fuck up.
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>>100411848

I thought it was pretty damn obvious that she's a yaoi artist.

But funny how the best character in the manga is a girl.

Seriously, Sebastian and Ciel are really fucking boring.
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>>100412345
Well, now I know what I'll read next.

Speaking of it, the illustrator of Trinity Blood manga draws real nice characters (let's not mention really pretty little boys), but I was actually horrified when I stumbled upon her pixiv and it contained some nasty sado shota fanart of the characters from her own manga.

Looks like you can't get pretty little boys in manga without author being perverted shotacon.
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>>100402595

There are plenty of female characters that got raped.

But when it comes to main characters it really seems like it happens more often to guys.
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>>100412588
There's Togashi, I don't think he's a shotacon and Killua is one of the cutest little boys ever.
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>>100412588

Female authors in general seem to put much more really perverse stuff in their series.

People thinking the likes of FatalPulse are super extreme have no idea what they are talking about.
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>>100412424
Grew up during the war, had barely anything. Mother tormented me, burned me, etc. One day she has beaten me up so much, the grandparents called my father, he showed up and put her in looney bin. After some time when she got back she tried repeatedly to kill me and herself. Cousins told me to bear it because she's my mother. Once I had enough of it I made a scandal but grandfather was ashamed of neighbors hearing me shout so he threw me out on the street.

Thankfully, no rape.
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>>100412518
Yeah, I felt gay moments at various points throughout the manga and such, so it wasn't much of a surprise when I found out.

But I agree, Lizzy is kickass. I found it so fucking adorable when she didn't wore heels just so Ciel won't feel bad about it and all that. It's a shame cause it really seems she likes him, but if the artist is a yaoi artist, we all know it won't go that way.

I also really started to like her brother after the last arc with the boarding school, he suddenly seems like a really cool guy. I know she's a yaoi artist and such, but I think that when it comes to character developments and such, she's really good at it.
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>>100412772
Holy fuck anon, what are you doing now?
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>>100403030
>VLC Snap
It's time to leave /a/, you've overstayed your welcome and are now abusing our hospitality.
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>>100412518
I don't know, there's something off with Lizzy, I can't seem to like her. I was more attached to Madam Red.
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>>100411282
the OVA of roberta.
episode 3 or 4, I forgot.
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>>100412772
Not your fucking livejournal, faggot.
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>>100412783
I'm sure that Lizzy will win. Usually in these kind of stories the master and butler are in love and end up together, but Ciel and Sebastian hate each other. There won't be any homo between them.
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>>100412851
I grew up to be introverted, but I holed up everything that happened and try my best to live normal life. Thankfully, I don't seem to have depression.
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>>100412880
>Madam Red
I found her was annoying as fuck, I always thought there was something weird about her. And I was right.
>>100412772
Nice blog post you've got there.
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>>100412772
i wish she had
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>>100412772
You had someone, reason Punpun has grown up so fucked up is because no one ever tried to connect with him and they all emotionally abused him in some way. His uncle was his father figure and his uncle is a massive piece of shit that passive aggressively treats Punpun like shit because Punpun fucked his wife even though it was HER raping HIM (she was also the nicest person to him his whole childhood).

Punpun has a shit life where everyone was either apathetic towards him, did not make any attempt at truly caring for him, or outright hated him. That is why the person who hates Punpun the most is himself.

Punpun wins at losing at life
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>>100407036
Please. Literally no one would call them sluts.
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>>100412969
People keep calling Alois a slut, but could be because he acts like one.
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>>100412851

Grew up to be a weeaboo and started blogging on /a/
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>>100412969
thats because guys can't be sluts
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>>100413031
I would wreck alois. So much hotter than ciel.
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>>100397085
>>100413031
>Berserk
>Kuroshitsuji

First time I see both my favorite anime/manga mentioned in the same thread.
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>>100413044
That's not true.
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>>100413031
>>100413064
Friendly reminder that Alois isn't canon.
The whole second season was a thinly-veiled attempt to milk fujos and now it fucked up every single chance for the anime to properly adapt the rest of the manga now and not clash with the previous seasons.
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>>100413064
Me too, anon. He's the ultimate shota.
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>>100412880

Madam Red was a crazy bitch. I kind of liked her too, and her past kind of justified her, but she was pretty much everything wrong with Victorian era women shoved into one character.

She was even the one that taught Lizzy to be a dumb retard in front of males.
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>>100413137
you wanna fite me fgt?
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>>100412913

End is going to be grimderp. Everything is going that way.

Ciel is just a meal for Sebastian.
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>>100413153
Don't really care, I actually started reading/watching Kuroshitsuji because of Alois. Have some 3dpd.
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>>100413153

They are actually making a new anime. Most likely a reboot.
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>>100409901
You didn't didn't use your feels to train hard.
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Is this now a kuroshit thread?

Nice to now Yana is into nazi fetish uniforms.
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>>100413161
>>100413064

Personality wise. Ciel's body is much hotter.

Alois in Ciel's body IS perfect.
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>>100406228

Western comics just can't get away with rape of a male hero.

It would be too degrading for him in the eyes of western mainstream.

Imagine the shitstorm if Batman was revealed to be a rape victim.
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>>100412772
>she tried repeatedly to kill me
How retarded is she that she couldn't manage to pull off killing a bloody child?
>ashamed of neighbors hearing me shout so he threw me out on the street
Because when you are shouting on the open street, you are less likely to be heard by your neighbors? Is everyone in your family retarded?
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>>100412296
Damn it, if I saw her on the street, I would get a boner thinking she was a guy.
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Pretty sure alucard got raped in his childhood.

But he seemed to enjoy it.
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>>100413390
Delicious tears.
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>>100413161

What's even the appeal of a super sadistic crazy shota? I kind of don't see it.

Am I supposed to imagine him raping and torturing me, or the other way around?
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>>100402995
A women will just take more dicks.

A man will harden his ass so it doesn't happen again.
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>>100413538
>what's the appeal of femdom?
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>>100412913
Nah, if the author is openly a fan of yaoi, there's no way she's gonna go for a straight couple for the main lead.

Like >>100413238 said, Ciel is most likely going to end up as Sebastian's meal(or whatever that soul contract is actually meant to be), as first agreed.
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>>100410067
Source? I don't know where people are getting the idea that Ciel was raped. It was never stated or implied (he did get abused though).
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>>100413415
Actually, he was raped by Sid Vicious in a terrible history from the 90's and by Talia Al Ghul.
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>>100413538
>Am I supposed to imagine him raping and torturing me, or the other way around?
You can imagine whatever you want. I think Alois would be pretty polyvalent sexually.
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>>100413612

That's rather different though. Even lolidom.

Pussies get better the tighter they are.

Shotas on the other hand have tiny baby dicks. How are you supposed to imagine getting degraded and forced to orgasm against your will when his dick is the size of your finger?
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>>100413612
Thats not femdom though
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>>100413707
He can use his mouth, hands, feet...
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>>100413581

Most male rape victims become homos.
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>>100399666
>666
SATAN GUIDE MY COCK
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>>100413739
Is the D so great?
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>>100413538
>doesn't like yandere shotas

shit taste
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>>100405684
Oh jesus christ. I know you're a half-braindead tumblerite and you aren't going to listen anyway, but I'm so suck of this bullshit. Yes, there will always be rapists, just like there will always be thieves and murders. No matter how much you shame men as a whole, there will always be bad people who will take advantage of someone vulnerable. Telling a girl not to get falling down drunk at a party where she doesn't know anyone is not the same as saying the rapist was innocent. Obvious, the rapist is still at fault. But saying that you shouldn't avoid putting yourself in a vulnerable position where someone can take advantage of you because of that? That's just irresponsible.
Also I see way more of this "all men are rapists, and are so weak and easily tempted all it takes is a little push for a normal man to rape" shit from feminists than anyone else. Does that "1 out of 4 women are raped sometime in their life" (flawed)statistic they love throwing around ring a bell? Or this idea of "rape culture" that certain things will magically cause people to see rape as normal and become rapists themselves? That's all on you.
Fuck off back to SRS you little shit
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>>100413161
I suddenly feel like picking this shit up.
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>>100413323
Sauce?
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>>100413707

Who said anything about penetration?

>>100413708

It's shotadom.
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>>100397085
One of the protags in Eden was raped by a hobo when he was little.
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>>100413644
It was never stated, but it was implied that he may have been sexually abused by the people who kidnapped him. Remember that he was naked in a cage and he took part in various 'rituals'?
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>>100413766
Source?
>>100413821
That's right. Besides, it's pretty obvious that Yana is a pedo into young boys, who also happens to love rape and violence.
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>>100413538
I'd recommend you some sado shota rape cds, but obviously, you're too much of a faggot.
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>>100413873
Would you recommend them to me?
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>>100413390
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>>100413739
No they don't
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>>100413696

>female raping a male
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_XNmydeyy8
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>>100413870
Litchi Hikari Club.
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>>100414046
>horror manga

Ah. Well, thanks anyway.
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>>100412296
>tfw when you'll never date a qt shotacon reverse trap
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>>100401694
what is a weird boner? does that mean your dick is bent or something?
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>>100413909
Diabolik Lovers.

Download Kanato's cd if you're into yandere sado shota, Azusa's if you're into yandere masochists.
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>>100413770

Fun fact, just around 5% of rapes are rape by strangers.

Most rapists are boyfriends, followed by friends and family members.

Feminists claim it's not the victim's fault, but when she picked an asshole nigga gangsta boyfriend because he's badass and manly can you really complain when he turns out to be a rapist?

And in the same survey that claimed 1 in 4 women were raped it also turned out that 1 in 6 men were.
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>>100414241
>Most rapists are boyfriends
Full retard.
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>>100413821

I'm pretty sure there is a picture showing Ciel getting raped. But I'm not going to go through the manga looking for it.
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>>100414261

Official statistics. Go google it.
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Despite Yana's shota fetish, she can make some pretty likable characters, like that Indian prince and Snake, although I expect his gory demise as soon as he find what Ciel did to which I'll cry bitch tears.
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>>100414261
It's possible for a husband/boyfriend to rape a girl.

Maybe not in the way you're thinking. But being in a relationship doesn't give a person free reign over the either.
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>>100414371

Ciel and Sebastian are amongst the worst characters in the series.

Sebastian is just a walking Deus Ex Machina and Ciel is a pathetic asshole that can't do anything by himself.

Ciel is only good when he's crossdressing. And he barely even does that.

Side characters are much better than main characters in this.
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>>100414261
Are you 12?

Majority of rapist are the partner, a family member or a close friend.
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>>100414469
I agree that Sebastian sucks, but Ciel is perfect.
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>>100413786
Read manga, watch second season. English dub made me feel more tingly than the original Japanese.
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>>100414241

Your statistics entirely suck and are untrue.

27% Complete Strangers
38% Friend or Acquaintance
28% An "intimate" (Husband/Wife, Ex Husband/Wife, Boyfriend/Girlfriend, Ex Boyfriend/Girlfriend)
7% Family Member

Source: U.S. Department of Justice. 2005 National Crime Victimization Study. 2005.

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The intimate category isn't exactly about your random phobia of black people either.

80% - 90% of rapes of women are committed by people of the same ethnic group.

Source: U.S. Department of Justice, 1994. Violence Against Women. Rockville, Maryland: Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice.

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You don't ever cite your sources because they are all made up.

If you want to make some vague contrarian rant, you should actually know what you're talking about. But you're just a stupid pathetic reactionary, angry at your disempowerment and looking for some convenient target to blame.

Pseudo-intellectuals these days...
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Freezing has incest rape
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>>100414469
>Sebastian is just a walking Deus Ex Machina

That's the joke.
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>>100414694
>2005
>1994

Yeah, next time don't use Wikipedia.
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>>100414626
Catch up to the whole manga and then watch the second series or should I try and find out when they meet up and read/watch that part at the same time?

I'm not reading for the story, so I don't particularly care.
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>>100414593
Ciel can be a bit unlikable, but I can get over it. Sebastian doesn't really matter much to me.
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>>100414769
The manga and the second series have absolutely nothing in common except for a few characters being reused(sometimes in a very ooc way), but the plot has nothing to do with the manga.
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>>100413949
>thinks women can't rape men
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>>100414769
I only got interested for kuroshit because of Alois, so I started reading manga to see if it's worth watching. I was really surprised that the story is not bad, dare I say, it's really interesting. So I read the whole manga and then watched the second season since it's an independent story but also sequel, so you will at least have to know some background.
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>>100414593

He's a tremendous asshole and without his butler to solve all his problems he turns into a scared baby.

He burned a bunch of kids for Christ's sake.
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>>100414943
You're taking that out of context.
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did someone say rape?
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>>100414943
There was some explanation like they can't be saved or something, but I agree, he's a huge cunt. Can't get over the fact that Yana almost got him raped again in the Hogwarts arc.

But despite all that, he seems really tolerable towards Lizzy. But then again he seemed to like Madam Red as well, could be his attachment to the family members.
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>>100414936
Got it. Thanks.
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>>100413799

Link to artist?
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>>100415083

Ciel is so much better at crossdressing.
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>>100415083
>Ciel almost got raped in Hogwarts
What? Did you had your bonergoggles on or something?
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>>100415083
>>100415267
Isn't it weird how Alois is so much more feminine than Ciel, and yet he can't pass as a girl at all when crossdressing, but Ciel can?
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>>100413581
Rape isn't sex anon.

Just like stabbing isn't surgery.
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>>100415319
Don't get me started with Homowarts arc.
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>>100415407
On the other hand, surgery is stabbing, but sex isn't rape. Your analogy doesn't work both ways, it's not very good.
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>>100415452
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>>100415482
Oh oh, found it.
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HAHA, WHAT A FAGGOT, GOT FUCKED IN THE ASS!! HAHAHABWABHAHABHAAH
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>>100407205

If you want another example, look at the applications of John Money's theories into medicine within Sweden. They took his earlier work and ran with it. It ended up costing a ton of money once people who identified as males (that were operated on to be made female due to gender being entirely a social construct) started coming out and talking about how their genitals were mutilated. Even some of the shrinks and doctors who were involved felt it was poorly done but felt pressured to go with the system. Hell, John Money's views himself changed drastically in later life after one individual in which he based a good deal of the theory on killed themselves.

Sweden is also, oddly enough, also has the third highest rape per 100,000 people in the world. Beating out places such as Nicaragua, Boliva and Moldova.
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>>100415360
He just dresses in feminine fashion, but despite that, as a kid, Alois used to be way more manly than gentle crybaby Ciel. In the end, rape was what made them what they are today.
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>>100415523
I look at this and all I see is shota Cain getting picked on by an even girlier shota version of his faggot half brother Jezebel.

>tfw there will never be a fucking anime adaptation of Count Cain
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>>100415407
Hum, no. Surgery has cutting, stabbing refers to a motion perpendicular to the cut flesh.

Don't see how sifting the focus of the conversation helps you or anyone reading this.
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>>100415452
That little guy with glasses was uncomfortably close to Ciel this whole time and made me feel like I was watching boku again. Not cool.
>>100415523
I thought they were just gonna take inappropriate pictures of him. Anyway, it wasn't an almost rape as Sebastian was on duty.
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>>100415730
Is Count Cain good? I'm very bored.
>>100415699
>Alois used to be way more manly than gentle crybaby Ciel.
That's true. He was more of a normal boy.
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>>100415455

Hum, no. Surgery has cutting, stabbing refers to a motion perpendicular to the cut flesh.

Don't see how sifting the focus of the conversation helps you or anyone reading this.
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>>100415360
Jesus Christ, Alois.
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If Alois wasn't such a cumslut he maybe could've NTR'd Ciel hard. Imagine the story going in that direction.
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>>100415730
I'm not sure I want to see animated the latest volumes, reading them was painful enough. They broke my heart.
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>>100415779
>helps
I'm just having fun. You could say I'm doing it without your consent, inserting my words in your thread. My fingers thrusting upon the keyboard swiftly and decisively over and over again, culminating with the captcha and pouring my product in this unresisting conversation.

yes, it's rape
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>>100415818
Not possible, Lizzy is a pure maiden, she would never do such a thing.
Also, it's not really NTR if she doesn't cares for her on a romantic level. If anything, I think Ciel sees her as a sister of sorts.
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>>100411850
Shit taSte you mean.
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>>100415360
>you will never have little sadistic boy's penis deep inside you
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>manga or anime with MCs that have troubled childhoods
What about anime about troubled childhoods?
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>>100413415

Nightwing #93 iirc:

http://imgur.com/dEVJhOh

Nevermind the fact that Tarantula is Devin Grayson's self insert. Here's her response at an interview:

>Male rape is a topic rarely touched on in comics. Why is it suited to bring it into Nightwing?

DEVIN GRAYSON:For the record, I’ve never used the word “rape,” I just said it was nonconsensual (I know, aren’t writers frustrating? *smiles*), but I think Nightwing is suited to cover any topic rooted in human behavior. The Batman characters are unique in that they’re not super powered – they’re extraordinary people who devote themselves to operating effectively in a very dangerous realm of human existence – crime and injustice and even, very often, mental illness. They are in constant physical danger, to the point that as readers we don’t even always respond to that anymore because we assume they’ll eventually be okay.

I think sometimes it’s more rewarding to put them in emotional or social peril of one kind or another, situations which challenge them as people as well as as superheroes.

>Will we be getting a reaction to Dick's rape anytime soon? Ever since it occurred the audience hasn't been privy to NW's thoughts, and I was really hoping you could flesh out that event in Dick's life. and I'm really hopping there will be an educating story to follow.

DEVIN GRAYSON:That’s very perceptive of you to notice that we lost Dick’s narration! That was very intentional – he’s so broken down at this point that he’s gone quiet inside. I think if you read through issue 100, you’ll see some of the response you’ve been waiting for, but remember, too, that events in superhero comics are often as much allegorical as actual – that is, we’re not doing a public service announcement here, we’re telling an ongoing, multi-layered story about one individual finding himself at an emotional rock bottom he doesn’t know how to fight his way out of.
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Should I read black butler?
It's good other than LOLSHOTACON.
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>>100416145
It's pretty average, but the side characters are nice and the fanservice and art are pretty good. Read Count Cain instead.
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>>100415778
I remember liking it. Truth to be told, now I kinda draw similarities between those two manga, but Count Cain has a bit more of a serious note.

If you want to read Kaori Yuki's work, try Ludwig Kakumei. Has some gay shota as well.
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>>100416145
The actual manga is pretty good. The hints at shotacon is sometimes annoying but it's a decent read and it will keep you entertained.
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>>100416145
Read it. Feels like Sherlock Holmes, except Ciel's crime solving methods usually end up in mass murder.
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>>100404773
>>100405229

Seriously bro's, you should know by now one of the possibly only reasons to go to tumblr is for the porn tumblrs, I mean that's about it.
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>>100416145

Pretty fun actually better than most other shounen.
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>>100416680
There's much better places for porn. Those porn .gif images are the worst.
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Remember me /a/?
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Gut's sword got raped
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And not to forget.
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>>100417240
That wasn't in her childhood, though. However, Casca did have a rather troubled childhood before that. Good thing Griffith was there to save her.

Why is he so good and perfect?
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>>100415523

One thing I really don't get about fujoshis is how they always make men ultra girly. Seriously, just look at the kid with scissors.

If they love males and the D so much then why is their dream fucktoy a girl with the D attached?

It's honestly hard to find a bigger proof that chicks are attracted to female bodies.
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>>100416312
>>100416259
>>100416182
I'll try both Count Cain and Black Butler, I hope it isn't as fujo as I think it'd be.
I don't like cockteases.
>>100416690
That's not saying much.
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>>100415818

The moment he tries to rape her or something she would go twin rapier Valkyrie mode and cut his dick off.
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>>100417348
>SO GOOD AND PERFECT
>too fucking retarded to let gutsu go and not obsess
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>>100417367
I think the guy with the scissors is meant to be that way. Apparently, he was putting on hair rollers at night, and putting eyelashes and makeup every day without anyone knowing just to appear more feminine and thus be worshipped by the rest of the guys at the boarding school.
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>>100417367
what always annoys me of EVERY jap yaoi/gay manga is that the couple is either baraxbara or femboyxfemboy, there should be more manly men x femmy boy. Specially if it has teasing. The femboy teasing the manly men.
That's why Aang story was great.
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>>100417507
http://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=1064
She draws masculinexfeminine most of the time.
I really liked Glamorous Boyfriend, Miruku and Ropeman from her, although I still have some on my wish list.
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>>100417460
He made a mistake. Griffith isn't literally perfect, he's not some God mode character that can do anything. That's why Griffith is perfect. It's because he's so awesome, and yet still flawed. He has just the right amount of perfection and imperfection.
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>>100417367
It because they resemble little boy bodies. They don't have curves nor chest, just smooth skin and penis.
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>>100417651
>>100417651
Guts is a fucking bitch.
Seriously, all he had to do was say "Yeah dude, totes going work with you, we're brahs" instead he was like "NUH IM A STRONK INDEPENTN MERC I NEED NO MASTER"
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>>100417091
Oh God, Red Riding Hood was never more heartbreaking.
Seriously, WHY?!
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>>100417508
Yeah, he was, it's an all boys school so he applies makeup to look feminine in order to manipulate other boys.
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>>100417740
Hot...
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not his childhood, but his entire life is just fucked up, just like the plot
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>>100417024
Well yeah, but still. Tumblr is pretty much just for porn.

That and the rare original, not shit stuff like this one that I know of where the person running it just makes pictures of Beast Boy annoying Raven. It's the small stuff that counts.
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>>100417831
>Start watching
>OY BOY TIME FOR GENERIC SHOUNEN, I'LL SHUT DOWN MAH BRAINS.
>everything.
>Why god, why. I don't even wish to know anymore.
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>>100417840
I like their cats and bunnies gifs.
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>>100417195
Unless that's a metaphor for her grinding his cock, it would hurt terribly.
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>>100417831
God, I haven't read it in a while, from what I remember Allen was getting a little better in life upon joining the organization, I guess not. Time to pick it up again.
Damn, Allen is one of the most adorable protagonists. Seeing him suffer makes me feel strange.
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>>100417951
Guts' sword is blunt.
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>>100417977
He's like that kid that just wanted to be friends.
But instead of going for normal logic everyone beats the shit out of him and breaks his stuff.
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>>100417831
I wish to know nothing about the dog.
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>>100418070
It's still not pleasant rubbing your clit against pointy object. This of rubbing the edge of a thick book against your penis' hole.
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Rape is my fetish

Seeing a 2d girl cry give me such a giant boner
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>>100417240
Call me crazy, but she seemed to have a pretty good time judging from her facial expressions.
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>>100418150
Not a 3D one?
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>>100418176
She looks in pain.
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>>100418178
Yes

But this is off topic because 3D isn't anime
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>>100418145
I don't have a penis.
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>>100417367
You need to read better BL manga, most of the ones with feminine petite boys are the crap ones.
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>>100418150
Great fucking taste bro I like that shit too
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>>100417710
Go to bed Griffith
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>>100418219
I don't think so, Jim.
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>>100418521
When you get out of the boat you little bitch.
DO YOU STILL LOVE ME GUTS?!
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>>100417710
>Griffith says that a true friend to him would find his own dream and oppose him if needed
>surprised that Guts opposed him and tried to find his own dream
HUH.

Griffith was spouting bullshit, sure, but since he never broke face Guts had no reason to believe it was a front. Griffith only realized that he already had true friends in retrospect. He didn't want to believe that he was wasting true friends' lives on himself, though. When he finally accepted it that's when he became a member of the God Hand.
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>>100418743
>Griffith was spouting bullshit
What are you implying here?
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>>100418517
What are your favorite doujin?

http://exhentai.org/g/344492/f2a07ec828/
http://exhentai.org/g/388719/09aa25d4bf/
http://exhentai.org/g/624294/931675dd2e/
http://exhentai.org/g/637312/406db8da59/
http://exhentai.org/g/375854/dd4b14ec81/
http://exhentai.org/g/483948/3d145b26f4/

I hate doujins where the D break the girl psyche and make her want to become a cock-addicted slut it's just dumb
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>>100417977
nothing much happening after, beside his head being hunted down by literally the whole world
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>>100418853
When he said a true friend of his was an equal, he was bullshitting. Probably to impress the princess, and probably to protect himself from the truth that he was trampling on people near and dear to him to achieve his dream.
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>>100419004
>Probably to impress the princess
That feel when nobody ever remember the best girl's name...
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>>100413644 >>100413821 >>100414371 >>100414422 >>100414593 >>100414778
(Fucking too many to list), But all these posts just further cement how much it sucks that there's hardly any mention of Black Butler on /a/, even if, most of these, were discussing it for 'superfluous' reasons.

Dude, isn't the manga still ongoing? I don't understand why I don't ever see threads for BB, for anime or manga on here. I know there's implied homolust, but fuck man, I actually enjoyed the anime( Ciel was shit, Sebastian/Indian Butler/Ciel's little group of helpers/Ciel's enemies made it enjoyable to watch). Strangely enough, it was entertaining to me. Just like I know its not for everyone with the case that I gave the anime to my friend to watch & he described his experience watching it akin to, "pouring a warm beer on top of his head."

>>100411848
A-Are you serious? So all the fucking gay roleplaying between girls when it comes to Black Butler and Ciel/Sebastian is completely justified?! My views... they've been completely & utterly shattered. I never thought it would be this way. G-gotta love that editor, right guys? ;_;
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>>100419102
I THINK it's Charlotte? They don't mention it very often. Poor girl had a rough go of it.
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So the non nor manga and anime with mc rape is Black Lagoon ova and Hellsing? Too much tumblr banter to read the entire thread.
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>>100419173
Yes, it's Charlotte. She's one of the few genuinely good persons in Berserk, and she's very loyal to Griffith.
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>>100419165
>I don't understand why I don't ever see threads for BB, for anime or manga on here.
To avoid people like you.
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>>100419271

Why you gotta be so insultful?
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>>100419165
>A-Are you serious? So all the fucking gay roleplaying between girls when it comes to Black Butler and Ciel/Sebastian is completely justified?! My views... they've been completely & utterly shattered.
I don't understand how people like you can exist when Yana makes it so obvious.
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>>100419374

I guess because I never did my research. Ignornant bliss can be a bad thing sometimes.
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>>100419165
N-nice try quoting all of those post
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>>100419424
But it's not about research. She makes it very obvious right in the source material.
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>>100419469

I guess it's also bad that I never read the manga. I've honestly been wanting for it to finish before I go at it. My own fault, again.
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>>100418176
Not exactly, she was half unconscious the whole time and he was pretty much fucking her like a ragged doll
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>>100419728
The anon above said that she looked like she was in pain. I simply argued otherwise, she seems to be okay with it, even if not fully aware.
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>>100419469

To be fair the homo stuff in BB is even more subtext than the usual yuri undertones in harem shows.

Ciel has a fiancee and she's pretty much the only person he really cares about. And Sebastian just loves to troll him.
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>>100419165
>A-Are you serious? So all the fucking gay roleplaying between girls when it comes to Black Butler and Ciel/Sebastian is completely justified?! My views... they've been completely & utterly shattered. I never thought it would be this way. G-gotta love that editor, right guys? ;_;

Why are you stuttering?

This is 4chan, not your novel.
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>>100419374
Shota is toned down, but I thought that Grell reaper was pretty obvious with his homo love for Sebastian.
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>>100421173

>Not stuttering
>Not having a speech impediment, 2-0-1-4

C'mon man, you gotta keep up
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>No mentions of Thorfinn yet
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>>100418120
I've only watched the anime. What dog?
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>>100421641
He what? When did this happen?
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>>100402995
>le double standards face XD

men and women arent the same

they deserve and receive different treatment
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>>100421784
Chapter 100

He finally got home
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>>100421806
No, they deserve the same treatment: giving them the dick.
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>>100421784
But if your
>When did this happen?
Meant "when did he get raped" then never. But he did have a troubled childhood
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>>100399303
What's up with rape victims becoming killing machines?
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>>100422042
>CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
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>>100422042
They start hating others and themselves.
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>>100397085
It's not simple
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Wasn't that girl from Okami-san raped?
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>>100411850
What story is this from?
I don't remember any Junji Ito SS
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>>100413581
thats beautiful
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>>100422525
One of Tomie stories. She got out of a sea cave, charmed a little boy and then ntr'd him.

But I think the closest thing to /ss/ Junji Ito has given us is Shuichi and his raging hate crush on his cousin.
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>>100424594
"The bully" also comes to mind.
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>>100424594
>hate crush
One of the best things in existence.
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>>100419374
I've had to point this out to multiple innocent young boys and the reactions never stop being funny.
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HANA GA SAITA YO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7n7BQ2S_r8
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>>100397085
Naruto
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>>100424687
Wait, actual boys read Kuro? Where can I meet them?
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>>100424665
That one was one rare ones that really terrified me. Probably because the story could actually happen.
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>>100424687
Little boys read Kuroshit?

If I gave that to my cousin he'd probably look at me weirdly, seeing how the taste for his age ranges from Fairy Tail to other shounen mangas.
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>>100424771
Innocent pseudo-normalfag anime fans read/watch Kuroshitsuji without any idea of who it's pandering to all the fucking time. Go to college, there are anime fans literally everywhere in your age group now.
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>>100424946
I'm not interested in people from my age group. You said " innocent young boys". What age range are we talking here?
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>>100425032
I was exaggerating theatrically, I'm sorry.
>implying I come in contact with 3DPD shotas if I can help it
I was talking college guys.
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>>100412127
I didnt had a normal childhood but there is no way it was worse than anything else in this thread.
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>>100425157
That sucks, college people are awful.
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>>100425170
He*, he didnt had a normal childhood.
fuck.
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>>100425270
Oh man, when SnK was airing, it was a neverending parade of people noticing I watch anime and saying 'Oh hey are you watching this anime called Attack on-'
'Yes. Yes, everyone and their mother is watching Attack on Titan. Literally everyone.'
And there was that one guy who was watching on stream sites and started complaining about how it ended in a weird place because he got caught up and assumed it was over because he didn't realize it was ongoing. His utter bafflement when I tried to tell him what day it aired on.
/blog
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Characters with Troubled Past 101

shoujo/shounen
>MY PARENTS ARE DEAD.

seinen/jousei
>I WAS RAPED
+1 edgy
>AS A KID
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>>100425270
What a shame irl shotas aren't like 2d ones.

>mfw my younger cousins bullies me, bites me, sits on me (and I mean like he wakes me up by sitting on me) and pulls my hair
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>>100426267
Some of them are arguably prettier. I'd let your cousin sit on me.
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>>100406063
wait... what WHEN
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>>100419234
guts will cut her in half on his way to griffith
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>>100427484
I'll hate Guts forever if that happens.
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>>100427577
Griffith seems to care for her, it wouldn't be surprising if Guts killed her for that reason.
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>>100428195
Of course he does. Griffith rewards loyalty.
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>>100428195
I can totally seeing it happening. But then again, would Miura be that cruel? Charlotte had a hard life. Still, I wouldn't be too angry if it did happen. As much as I like and feel sorry for charlotte on a personal level, I just cannot get over the fact that she is the entire reason the eclipse happened in the first place. Just think about it, if griffith had opted to fuck casca instead then none of it would have happened.
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>>100428530
If thats the case, then why did he rape casca? She was one of his most loyal subjects. Or did he take offense to casca shacking up with Guts?
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>>100428545
>would Miura be that cruel?
AHAHHAHAHA

Son, do you even read Berserk?
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>>100428545
I think it will happen just because.
The eclipse happened just cause fuck yourself for having faith in Griffith, would one more such death be unthinkable?
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>>100428635
>Or did he take offense to casca shacking up with Guts?
Exactly. There must be over 10 pages showing just that, actually. Miura made it very clear. Look how she went to nurse Guts while Griffith was stuck with Judeau.
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>>100428641
I mean would he be that cruel to a sub character. Miura has such a fucking hard on for giving sub characters happy endings. Main characters, however, he has no problem abusing.
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>>100428731
What really made him go crazy was the prospect of living with Guts and Casca as a cripple.
I can respect that, frustration is the worst feeling that exists, especially after falling so far.
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>>100428731
There is a part of me that thinks he did it because he wanted to have second hand sex with Guts. I mean Griffith knew he could have casca anytime he wanted, so I think it was out of jealously for casca taking Guts away from him. Not even a fujoshit, the interactions between the two post eclipse are just really gay.
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>>100397085
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>>100428913
You monster.
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>>100428854
That was a big part of it, yes.
>>100428891
No. Just no. Griffith is totally straight, and there's no proof he ever liked Guts as anything more than a friend.

However, there IS a proof that he fantasized romantically about Casca. See pic.
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>>100428891
To me it seemed more like two of his best friends getting together and him feeling left out.
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>>100428781
>Miura has such a fucking hard on for giving sub characters happy endings
>sub characters
>happy endings
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>>100404408
hirano never finished the dawn did he?
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>>100412424
>Your father had to hit your mother in the head with a microwave because she wanted to kill you and herself?


Shit, I never picked that up.
I just thought his father and mother were in a fight and father hit the mother.
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>>100404334
>>100398289

What's with the Turks and butt raping?
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>>100429029
Fucking hell. Which chapter was that in? was that a fantasy he had when he was in cripple mode? I swear I've seen this exact page except with griffith being replaced with guts. I swear Guts fantasizes about it whilst coming to terms with retard casca. Okay so now what I don't get is, why the fuck didn't Griffith tap that when he had the chance? They were clearly together for years till Guts showed up.
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>>100429029
How did they make a child if Griffith can't even speak, let alone move?
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>>100429153
It's a fantasy.
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>>100427577
>Guts will rape her and have Griffith watch as an attempt at revenge
>Griffith won't bat an eye at the rape, just feel sorry for guts and go "what happened to you bro, look at your life"
>the elves will make funny pop culture reference
>the end
>appendix: guts gets on the boat with gandalf and sails to the land of the elves
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>>100429120
Yeah obviously barring the eclipse. Lets take a look at Rickert and his waifu, the prostitute gang, farnese and co, sonia, and a bunch of other characters who were so insignificant that I can't remember their names.
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>>100398088
how?
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>>100429142
Volume 12. It was after he tried to flee with the wagon, and ended up crashing and falling in the lake.

>I swear I've seen this exact page except with griffith being replaced with guts. I swear Guts fantasizes about it whilst coming to terms with retard casca.
I don't remember that.

>>100429153
It's a dream. Griffith could still move as a cripple, though. Just not a lot. He even managed to tackle Casca down.

>>100429224
Lol'd at the first 2 lines.
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>>100429224
>Guts will rape her and have Griffith watch as an attempt at revenge
I would pay good money to see this. Just trying to imagine that is so awkward.
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>>100429332
I don't know man, its probably my mind making up shit. Or possibly a page I saw in a Guts x Casca doujin. Thats probably it.
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>>100429130
No he did not, and I doubt he ever will.
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>>100429130
what a fucking shame
why the fuck not
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what the fuck is wrong with me
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Shota rape makes the best men.
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Poor guts
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>>100430838
I think it would have had a bigger effect on the audience if he drew close-ups of his face/eyes.
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>>100402332
I've never seen a better use for this macro. You have giving it a new meaning to me.
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>>100433113
What manga is this?
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>>100433974
Google: It's an Endless Summer!
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>>100399635
She's having sex in the second panel.
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>>100434335
I just woke up and go kill yourself.
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>>100429224
>>100429353
Guts is going to rape Griffith
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>>100434635
That'll be the biggest plot twist. I really wouldn't be ready for that.
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>>100429299
Do you remember the bit where everything around him was on fire and his whole family burned to death?



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