What the hell did I just watch?
Something effing gorgeous. A Yoshitaka Amano eyegasm, actually!
Was the whole damn thing an euphemism for rape?
Everything is an euphenism for rape
If someone would care to explain it to me I'd be most grateful.
What did you just watch? It looks interesting.
Boko no eggu
Betrayal of trust and crushed hearts.avi
I don't know either. It was really cool though.
That's not my crushed belief in adults gif
She's made of... meat.
So not only are you a liar, but you keep 3DPD on your computer.
You don't belong here.
Fuck you moot, which board is /a/ connected to?
Another mindfuck from Mamoru Oshii
A pleb repellent.
because she needs to lose her innocence
>Angel's Egg is actually about God forsaking the occupants of Noah's Ark after starting the Flood but never allowing the waters to recede.
based on what?
I really liked the final sequence with the shot pulling back farther and farther (which seems taken directly from Solaris) which portrays the entire area the movie took place on as the like hull of a capsized ark in a sea of nothingness. I mean, with that story the guy tells about Noah's Ark and it being so long that he barely even remembers anything, I pretty much take the whole movie as the story of the Ark except with a really Bad End.
Also has anyone watched the blu-ray yet? It looks goddamn amazing - huge upgrade over the DVD.
it kinda reminds me of amano
Maybe because it's Amano?
I didn't know about the bluray release
Everything and nothing.
>What the hell did I just watch?
What is it symbolic of?
The Man directly recites the story of Noah's Ark, except the dove that Noah sends out never returns with an olive leaf, meaning that the world is still flooded. The waters never recede, and it's been so long that the Man barely even knows if it actually happened anymore. I also took this as the reason he destroyed the egg - the girl still had her faith while he was completely disillusioned.
The last scene where it's revealed the city was built on Noah's ark.
There are two different releases. The PWM release has grain, and a group named Nemesis has a grainless version where they also did some restorative work and fixed some minor screen defects.
Today we had our dose of shitposting about oscars but... why didn't this movie get an oscar? What could possibly beat it? Even in the foreign movie category, like Waltz with Bashir?
Then explain the fish shadows and the fishermen. Also the thing with the statues. And the tanks. And the birdman (pic related). And the bottles of water.
Are you kidding me? The movie did so badly, Oshii couldn't land a job for 4 years.
Here's a comparison between the DVD/BR that shows that a huge upgrade it is:
And here's a comparison between grain/no-grain
>What is it symbolic of?
Anything you can rationalize
/a/, draw me fanart of these two.
post that in the drawfag tread.
better chance of someone doing it
I was thinking of doing that, but from what I've seen the most attention is given to busty young ladies.
The only thing Amano ever animated...sadly.
>yfw you realize he was one of the artists proposed to animate DYRL but did not get the chance.
No, I'm not.
Since when being a financial succes was a requisite for achieving critical acclaim?
It probably didn't even get a release, whatever.
Well yes, but the movie wasn't well liked by public nor critics.
the upgrade is gorgeous! they truly did an amazing job in the remasterization though there are some minor frame defects.
personally I prefer grain, the de-grained version lose some details.
Watch Tori no Uta and 1001 Nights.
Don't even make me think about it. I'm ignorant about animation or christian symbolism but it's pretty clear how much meat does this movie have. People really are stupid, they don't even want to try to comprehend something different.
The fishermen hunting the shadow fish I always took as just showing the the kinda futile nature of seeking some definitive answers through religion - "Even though they aren't anywhere, they chase after them. Even though there aren't any fish anywhere". I figured at least one of the points of the bottles of water is to show what an immeasurably long time the girl has been there. The birdman is supposed to be the fossilized remains of the bird they sent to search for land, which the girl believes is what's growing inside the egg to be reborn - the man has a really emotional reaction when he sees the remains. The statues/giant God-eye ship could be some kind of representation of heaven or something since a statue of the girl has been added to it - she gets rewarded at the end, and the man is left alone and forsaken.
For having so little dialogue and the fact that the story/characters clearly wasn't the main focus, the man's massive betrayal really did have a big impact. All the little touches like the girl hiding under his cloak, when she grabs his cloak before she goes to sleep and they hold hands (can the guy posting the gif make one of that, it's fantastically animated). And then the scream the girl lets out when she finds the egg broken has so much more effect since it's such a quiet movie.
Can't get over the fact that she just wanted a little love and he crushed her most precious possession and didn't even look back when she was dying.
Pixiv delivers some fanart! If it wasn't 2am I'd draw some of my own.
Nice timing, I watched this just this week. Adding a gif to the collection.
If you have the gif of girl tugging man's clothes I'd be most grateful, I can't seem to find it anywhere.
If there's an existing one I don't know of it. I can gif it right now though. This, right?
>No "ANATA DARE?" in caps
Watched this when the BR came out, pretty good. It took me a while to completely grasp the themes portrayed, I had to make a thread discussing it too.
I had more of an impression that the fishermen were clinging to past and that they can't let it go despite that the fish and them are no more.
I didn't realize until I got some things explained in this thread, but yes, it does seem logical that the birdman is the dove they sent, except the bird never even left them and hasn't even searched for the dry land.
As for the last part, I thought everyone died and their souls are finally ascending to heaven, but I haven't understood why he was left alone.
Still can't get over the fact he left her alone to drown.
Yes, I'd love that. Also, could you gif the part she's tugging his pants and hiding under his cloak?
Then please explain it to me, because I have no idea what happened.
It's the art that got me to watch the movie. There's something distinctive in the old style character design that I really love.
How did she get boobs?
Truly are the plebs those who sunned this movie.
>As for the last part, I thought everyone died and their souls are finally ascending to heaven, but I haven't understood why he was left alone.
Some people says the man is a representation on Jesus, and there's some references like the gun shape (a cross).
I have this.
During the movie, I thought he descended to reap her soul and that she was a last person on post apocalyptic Earth and that he will somehow be responsible for her death, eventually sticking his cross shaped weapon over her grave.
That one coming next.
It's perfect, thank you so much!
You fucking bastard, how could you be so nice then break her egg. Man these gifs are bringing back the rage.
I know all about the theory that the statue "ship" is kinda like Noah's ark, but was the guy a representation of Noah going to collect the girl for the "ark"? He said he didn't remember anything, but he found her pretty quickly (seemingly), like he was drawn to her or something
Then there's the whole deal of her seeing her adult reflection in the water and the zoom out at the end of the city, as if it existed on some kind of shield.
And the ghost fish? Who the fuck knows
Just like in all relationships
maybe he knew what was in the egg, he knew it was pointless of her to waste her life waiting for it to hatch (maybe it wouldn't hatch in her lifetime), so he wanted to set her free, so to speak.
I mean, all those birds around her house still hadn't hatched
Can't shake the feeling him breaking the egg symbolized something I don't really want to admit. When she kissed her own reflection when she was drowning it was that of an older girl.
Or maybe he's just a huge ass.
Thats my impression.
I had an impression her egg was his aim from the start but I never really got why he was lulling her into a sense of security only to betray her.
Now that you mention it, looking back at >>100384168 it kind of looks like shes, well, orgasming...
now that I think about it, the world kind of looked like an upside down boat
Because he is a huge dick. Fucking Akio wannabe.
Maybe he wasn't nice at all and it was all her idealization of him. Remember, he was just stalking her and it was her who kept tugging him, offering him water and then not wanting to let him go when it was it was time to sleep.
I highly doubt he was an ass
He found her for a reason
He saw her added to the ship at the end
The opening scene with him in the desert with the ship also alluded to him being a part of it, as it appears wherever he is.
And they could've restored the human world from beginning. What a dick.
She was probably only acting like that out of pure loneliness. God knows how long she had lived in that huge cave all alone, until he showed up? the only other normal person in the midst of crazy fish hunters? I know I'd sure want them to stick around.
To me that clearly symbolizes knowledge. You can't progress without knowledge but with consciousness comes pain.
the question of whether she was even "alive" to begin with hasn't been answered (and I don't think it ever can be)
what? why would you doubt whether she was alive or not?
I doubted it as well. I thought she was in some kind of purgatory.
Fuck might as well draw some fanart, if I don't give up halfway through because I'm terrible at drawing and it's 3am.
When the guy is talking to her and saying "maybe we're just ghosts"
he alludes that the flood has already happened (which explains all the skeletal remains) and that there is a world "underwater", that the people on the ark had given up waiting for the bird's return and everything turned to stone.
They both have barely any memories (which is usually a tip off that they're dead)
"maybe no one exists, and it is only raining outside"
which version recommend you guys? I'm not sure at all. The restored version is worthwhile? I saw on bakabt that original bluray release has some serious imperfections.
I actually first thought they were related because they have similar eyes and same hair colour. Now that you mention it, maybe their hair goes white once they die.
he seems to be an extension of those who had forgotten that the bird existed
He doesn't remember the last time he saw the bird, he says, maybe he came to that place (or was pulled to that place) to find proof of the birds existence. Which is why he asked her what was in the egg. He wanted physical proof that it existed, and when he found the bones, he realized the egg didn't matter. Because it was too late. Or some bullshit like that, I'm just rambling.
You're gonna love this.
To add to the discussion, the water collecting seemed to imply to me that she was always unconsciously aware of the flood that was/would come and needed to collect it to keep it from overflowing from its sources, that kind of childlike thinking that could have matured when the egg hatched. That's why we see an older her drowning with her, maybe.
and by desert I mean this place, whatever it is, it doesn't seem to appear on this map>>100386707
I've really never been one to get angry at animu, and would find it strange all the things that /a/ raged over, but fucking hell did this get to me. Its probably because I too felt hurt by his actions, as I actually majorly shipped both of them up until the point of the egg breaking.
what if the "older her" was actually her mother? The one who told her to bring all the water vessels to that place (she said she wasn't the one who had brought all of them there, so there were other people at one point). She was obviously taught language by someone because she knew how to talk. I think she was just honestly scrounging for food, she knew enough to poor the wine out of the jar.
I think the biggest mystery is why her death = a bunch of eggs popping up
My hear broke once again. It hurts.
I feel your pain, anon.
Didn't expect a movie from 80s to touch my heart so much.
Neither was the monalisa.recognized when it was originally made.
doesnt stop it from being a masterpeice
I'm usually pretty pro-grain, but the Nemesis version probably has the edge just because it removes all the imperfections/artifacts.
Gotta say, this is probably the best Angel's Egg thread I've seen. Usually there are only like six posts and half of them are 'who the fuck knows'. Thanks to the guy/guys making the gifs, as well.
Or maybe the movie is just pretentious garbage that only retards can enjoy.
That piss poor comparison.
I liked it because of the old art style and the emotions it caused.
>All these people raging at the guy for smashing the egg.
>It was something that needed to done.
There was nothing left in that world except for a girl who kept trying to save it in vain
Although if the egg represented "future", then her death gave rise to a better chance of a "future"
Which also falls into the category of something that had to be done
>needed to be done
>Not paying attention to what little dialogue there is
>Not reading the symbolism of the shadow fish
The egg was false hope.
As mentioned above, to me the fishermen were the people unable to get rid of past and move on.
The egg was hope. He only crushed it after he realized what will hatch out of it.
it just wanted to get an emotion from you, i think it worked
dont think too deep into it enjoy the excelent animation and art
Egg was empty bro. Nothing ever gonna hatch out of it.
Better yet, he became her hope but left her crushed as the egg.
She didn't know the story of ark and was alone for such a long time. When some light finally shined into her life it burned her.
>he only crushed it after he realized what would hatch out of it
But that doesn't make any sense, considering after she fell into the water, a bunch of eggs popped up.
The world was already dead, like the anon above you said, it was false hope at best. The birds around her were all asleep, the people dead, the world underwater.
He asked what was inside the egg few times and only when he realized it was the egg of the birdman did her crush it.
What happened to those eggs that came out of her?
>he asked what was inside the egg
He already knew what was inside the egg, when he told her, he said (IIRC) something like "ah, so I was right", not to mention he remembers the birds from his dream.
He wanted to see the bird with his own eyes to know that his dreams weren't false, but he found nothing in the egg and left. Moreover, the skeleton of the big bird probably reinforced his idea that "it was all a dream".
But why crush her only hope and then leave her even more alone than she was?
because they were already dead
crushing her false hope was to let her move on
I always thought that it was the opposite, people chasing off ideas of the past. They didn't want to remember that their entire world was flooded(Hence fish everywhere) and decided to chase off those ideas.
it makes more sense to think of them as "people hunting for things that aren't there" because they are literally hunting shadows, and that is what the girl says in the movie
Although my idea was like a merger with yours, where they were hunting for fish that weren't there because they resisted to admit that the world was dead. Replaying the same moment again and again.
They had to be ghosts obviously, or phantoms.
The only reason to think the girl and guy weren't phantoms is because they were flamboyantly dressed, as any main character duo are to signify their importance.
For me it's more like they're stuck in the time they were happier and they keep doing that job to mimic what they were doing in life in order to forget their current state.
On the other hand, fish is a very important Christian symbol, so the meaning can be completely different.
Btw, what was that monstrosity America added to to the movie? That live action post apocalyptic stuff that looks like some bad cosplay meet-up of stalker.
Do you have any screenshots of that? All the torrents are the Japanese DVD or Blu-ray.
I wonder if the storyboard would have any extra material
I saw clips of it online, but I can't remember where.
It was an entirely different movie that used clips from Tenshi no Tamago.
well, i'll give them a chance because the imperfections that I saw were horrible, at least in one screenshot but who cares...