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Oscar when? ;_;
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>>100366460
Never
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'Sup, Oscar Thread #8?

Art is subjective. If Rebellion was your movie of the year, that's what matters. Not the collective 'opinions' of a lifetime-membership council of old white men.
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Come on, I like Madoka but an Oscar?
Don't be ridiculous.

Not that The Croods or Despicable Me deserve nominations either.
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>>100366620

It doesn't even matter, it's a sequel film to a story that absolutely none of them have seen or would have cared for. To even imagine it being nominated, or winning, was stupid. Why did Aniplex even bother.
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>>100366460
>Rebellion didn't even get nominated for Oscar

Take that, madokafags!
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>no Oscar for Meduka
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Award ceremonies anymore are horrible. If no one deserves to be awarded they should even present anyone with an award because all that does it make the other great products worth less.

Also celebrities self dick sucking is at an all time high with the income gap being as ludicrous as it is.

The academy should award no animated work from 2013 with an oscar, especially not anime.

mfw shaft fags think their studio is quite literally the second coming.
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>>100367436
I think they did a good job of making Rebellion a stand-alone piece. The intro is beautiful and the exposition of the world doubles as an insight into Homura's psyche.
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Think about it though.The judges probably didn't even see the last 2 movies, they had practically zero context unless there was a heft flashback at the start of this...

The first film might have at least gotten a nomination.
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>>100367653
>I think they did a good job of making Rebellion a stand-alone piece
Except it means fucking nothing without the series and it means nothing without the sequel that it'll almost surely get.
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>>100367653

Could you have gone into Rebellion absolutely cold on the story, cold to anime in general as well, and gotten anything from it? Remember, Miyazaki is basically Akira Kurosawa, as in he's the only Japanese director they know of.
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>>100367769
>and it means nothing without the sequel that it'll almost surely get.

Why would it need a sequel?
The movie ended perfectly.
Homura won and saved everyone, giving Happy endings to all except QBs because they deserve to suffer.
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>>100367769
Except that what came before it and what could come after it are only relevant to the canon, and their exclusion does not detract from the thematics and ideas intrinsic to Rebellion. It has more in common with EoE than anyone reciting that joke could have ever imagined.
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>>100367981
Check the interviews with Uro and his butt buddy who ruined everything.
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>>100367981

>Why would it need a sequel?

Why did the Madoka TV series need a sequel? Would they have made Rebellion if Madoka wasn't a massive money-maker? Of course they'll make another sequel, they can't let this well go dry.
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>>100368021
well, i imagine that if i saw end of evangelion without having seen the series first i'd think it was quite pointless and incomprehensible. same goes for madoka
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No one gives a shit. Fuck off.
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>>100367981
Because Madoka still has repressed god powers and Homura is mentally unstable.

Also this
>>100368166
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>>100367909
Nah, I wouldn't call Rebellion a tale with universal appeal and that's where it falls short.
Anyone who isn't interested in Homura is going to have a hard time finding a message in the story. There is no central protagonist character in the series whom everyone is meant to relate to, which is why the series as a whole. If you just pick out one narrative within the series, such as Sayaka's arc, it's not even half as good.
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Is anyone even surprised by the outcome?

We had talked about this for weeks and everyone already knew that it stood no chance in the selection process they have
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>>100366614
>>100367439
>>100367614
>thinks people were actually serious about this
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>>100368408
Sure sure, the threads cropping up are just from all of the people who didn't pay attention to the previous threads.
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Not like it matters. Frozen, despite easily being the worst film out of the five nominations, will win anyway.
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>>100366460

the academy awards there are fraud, the only goods movie awards is in Canness
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i was under the impression that oscars are exclusively for mainstream hollywood movies. have i been living a lie
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>>100368408
I don't understand these threads either. No one is surprised by this outcome.
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>>100368601
Frozen is the second worst though
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4chan need your own academy awards
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>>100368722
samefags proxy a lot,

for example for shit like AKB and NNB
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>>100368649

>foreign category every year
>independent films sometimes making best picture or screenplay
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>>100368649
There's a bunch of categories, anything can basically get put forward for consideration to be nominated as long as it meets theatre showing requirements in LA.

But you are right in that only the most mainstream hollywood films stand a chance in winning.
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>>100368601
This.

None of the old men there give a shit about the animated films and mostly pick whatever Disney shits out.
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>>100368601
>>100369123
What are the chances of The Wind Rises winning? Old people love Miyazaki.
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Let's settle this then:
http://strawpoll.me/1029871
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>>100369254

Old people also remember WWII.
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>>100368924
>foreign category every year

So the committee put all foreign films in one category? It's very telling of their attitudes when you have a foreign film category totally separate from the best picture category.
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>>100369309

That's because the Academy Awards are primarily for American and other Anglosphere fims. Some French movie isn't going play wide here, and if the Awards consisted only of French arthouse shit, no one would watch the ceremonies. No one watches and you lose money, so that's why high-brow but populist movies are nominated, because the audience actually gives a fuck about those. They want Leo DiCaprio in the seat, not Jacques Jacques Le Fillagree Snooty Honk Honk Frenchman.
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>>100369309
Well The Artist won Best Picture in 2011 despite not nearly being as good as a few other films in its category.
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>>100369474
Which just goes back and even further cements the award ceremony as more about money and fame.

>>100369486
How often does that even happen?
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who cares

Frozen, The Wind Rises and Ernest & Celestine are better films than Rebellion anyway
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http://www.japan-academy-prize.jp/prizes/37.html#title27
At least it's something.
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>>100369600

>Which just goes back and even further cements the award ceremony as more about money and fame.

Of course, and that fame and recognition can mean more funding and better career prospects. You're no longer just that Hunger Games chick, you're Jennifer Lawrence: Academy Award Winning. That means you can command a higher paycheck and better roles.
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>>100369309

Amour, an Austrian film, was nominated for best picture last year
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>>100369744

really meaningless, awards mean nothing in japan

it's a promotional gimmick to sucker kids more than anything

Madoka is a very americanized type story.
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>>100369674
>>>/co/
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>>100369865
>Madoka is a very americanized type story.

wut?
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>>100369850

That movie did have some theater time in America, I remember seeing trailers for it. That does happen with some of the really stand-out foreign films.
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>People actually belie Rebellion was a good movie
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>>100369928

The way it's delivered, the dialgoue, everything is all hollywood-like. To Japanese, it's all quite silly.

But youngins think it is a exotic, and therefore cool.
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>>100370019
>People actually belie
be·lie
biˈlī/Submit
verb
1.
(of an appearance) fail to give a true notion or impression of (something); disguise or contradict.
"his lively alert manner belied his years"
synonyms: contradict, be at odds with, call into question, show/prove to be false, disprove, debunk, discredit, controvert, negate; More
antonyms: testify to, reveal
2.
fail to fulfill or justify (a claim or expectation); betray.
"the notebooks belie Darwin's later recollection"

So you're saying Rebellion was a good movie? Cause I concur.
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>>100370047
You're going to have to cough up some examples because I did not find the dialogue to be hollywood-ish at all.
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>>100370172
I'm pretty sure it was a typo.
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>>100366460
So is the cam quality any good? Or do I have to wait for blu-ray to watch this film
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>>100370198
>using bad subs as a base to form an opinion
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>>100370356
Well if your claim is true you can cough up some real examples with your expertise on moonland linguistics, can't you?

Or is your claim just bullshit?
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>>100370448
>Or is your claim just bullshit?
pretty much
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>>100370267
Obviously, I was taking the piss on him and his shit taste
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>>100370448
>>100370491

Samefag. Are you Boss Lady on FFshrine?
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>>100370541
You're still not giving me a single example there buddy. I'll just take your claim about the dialogue to be entirely fallacious.
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>Rebellion
>Best Animated Film material
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>>100370621
>implying Frozen is Best Animated Film material
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Regardless of who the judges are, anyone with taste wouldn't have nominated Rebellion. It was medicore at best.
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>>100370611

Homura's quotes hinting she's from another timeline are taken straight from the Japanese version of Terminator

I don't remember honestly, but specifically she refers to kyouko by name - she responds with have we met somewhere before?

there's no rephrasing in Japanese, everything is straight forward and direct
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>>100370728
more than Rebellion

you just dont like it because its an American film
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>>100370812
If it's just a few lines then it could be just a coincidence or homage.

Give me more examples. I'm not convinced yet.
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>>100370805
>anyone with taste wouldn't
fix'd
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>>100370812
That reminds of how in the beginning it showed an interview with the voice actors, who said the movie is full of Hollywood-style action.

It dumbfounded me because it clearly had anime-style action. The only reason I can think of it relating it hollywood is that Mami and Homu used guns.
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>Oscar
Wait until Sakura Trick gets its own movie, then we'll talk.
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>>100370960

No, fuck you, you're a god damn idiot trying way too hard to defend this junk and I'm not wasting any more time on you.
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>>100371064
good bye then
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>The Wind Rises and Madoka lost to The Croods and Despicable Me 2

Jesus fuck. This country is beyond saving.
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>>100371036

That shit would get a Razzie.
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>>100371355
Fujoshit, pls.
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>>100371469

>implying
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>>100369916
Sucks to read the truth huh?
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>>100371356
Wind Rises got nominate.
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>>100371356

Despicable Me was better than Madoka.
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>>100370047
>Japanese people think Madoka's style is silly
people exist who actually believe this?
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>>100371031
The japanese consider gun-based CQC of any sort to be hollywood-style action. Not because there are guns, but because muh gunkata.
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>>100372018
Saying Frozen is better is one thing. I don't know what kind of shit taste you would need to have to think this though.
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>>100366460
There's a reason they have "oscar bait"
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Most of news don't even mention oscar nomination among animated movies.
It's just not important and 99% of oscarfags don't care about animation movies at all.
You should be happy, that Madoka won't get any unnecessary attention.
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Anyone thinking Rebellion was going to even get nominated was either naive or outright delusional. The Academy doesn't give a flying fuck about animation as a medium (they only made the Best Animated Feature category as a quarantine), and Rebellion is a niche film that's heavily dependent on familiarity with an existing franchise. Did it deserve the spot more than The Croods or Despicable Me 2? Absolutely. But it had a snowball's chance in hell of happening in the first place. At this point, I'm rooting for Ernest & Celestine, but they'll probably give it to The Wind Rises as a tribute to Miyazaki's career.
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Now that I think about it, what awards has Rebellion even won?
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>>100374982
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-01-16/wind-rises-madoka-lupin-vs-conan-harlock-kaguya-earn-japan-academy-prize-nods
it will win a lot in Japan.
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>>100375102
The Wind Rises will probably win it.
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If madoka gained more attention, shit could become some horrid commercial shit, so it not winning any ameriturd prize is actually a good thing.
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>>100368021
>Except that what came before it and what could come after it are only relevant to the canon, and their exclusion does not detract from the thematics and ideas intrinsic to Rebellion
Madoka fags sure are delusional.
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>>100375102
Thanks for the laugh. It'll just win a shitty Animage Award
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>>100375102
>Madoka
>winning over Ghilbi

You madokatards sure are stupid.
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>>100366460
I just finished the series, do I have to watch the other two movies to watch this one?
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>>100375102
>it will win a lot in Japan.
>The Animation of the Year category was only created seven years ago. Last year, Mamoru Hosoda's Wolf Children won the award. The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, Tekkonkinkreet, Ponyo, Summer Wars, The Secret World of Arrietty, and From Up On Poppy Hill were the previous winners. Before that, Studio Ghibli won the overall Picture of the Year Award for Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away.

And all those previous years it went up against popular anime franchise movies like Rebuild.
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>>100376042
the movies are basically the series slightly compressed and slighty better visuals. The whole point of the movies was just to go to the threatres and giggle at the thought of going to the movies(in public) to watch magical girls suffering and getting mad (and crying)(in public)
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Except that Rebellion was utter garbage.
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Miyazaki's response to The Wind Rises being nominated:
>I think it is a huge honor for my retirement work, The Wind Rises, to be nominated in the Oscars' Best Animated Feature Film category. To be so valued overseas is a great honor for the entire staff involved in this work. From the bottom of my heart, I thank everyone in the Academy who nominated the movie, and everyone who guided it successfully. It would be bring me great joy if many people in America get to see the film.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-01-16/wind-rises-miyazaki-tsukumo-director-morita-react-to-oscar-nods
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>>100377549
>for my retirement work
I thought he said he wasn't going to retire.
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>>100377661
I thought that too.
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LGTSS

>the city of madoka rebellion
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>>100377701
>>100377661
That was never founded on and apparently the original source for that was Kotaku
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>>100377839
Well now I feel like an idiot for trusting it. Fuck me.
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>>100377661
Miyazaki will never retire, he'll become immortal with all of that Disney money.
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>>100377549
The Wind Rises is undoubtedly the best of all the nominees. I seriously hope it wins.
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>>100369280
>people actually think Rebellion is better than The Wind Rises



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