since gianex or whatever went under does that mean we won't get any dubs of the eva remake movies?
Gainax didn't go under. There was speculation and cancelled releases from ADV but apparently they're not letting anything on. I didn't think they licensed EVA 1.0 anyway soooooooooo.
Gainax tanked and they aren't releasing any more gurren lagann episodes.
>since gianex or whatever went under
lmao, geneon. and adv does eva. and why does it matter if we get a dub anyway?
I thought all the episodes were done and adv was doing the dub?
wait, what went under (slowpoke?) and what is affected by this?
dubs and american releases like "when they cry" and hellsing ova.
>gainax went under
lol GAINAX, riiiiight
really? aww but I was loving the hellsing ova...
If ADV can't even timely release the most sought after anime of 2007 to people WHO HATE BUYING ANIME, then they're definitely finished.
Jesus fucking christ
I hear that alot of production companies are going under because people won't dish out the money to buy anime dvds and instead pirates them. so in like 30 years time do you think anime will be dead cause people won't buy the dvds?
JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY
In 30 years we won't give a shit. Why do most of us watch anime? Because it's a free hobby.
maybe in different languages but im sure anime in general wont die at all...i mean their made for a certain country, they just get a bonus income when they get licensed and released in other languages, i hope they dont plan on it
Well, if broadband would become more affordable and they set reasonable release schedules and allowed people to stream/download for a fee, then they can certianly survive.
Also remember that alot of money is made of PUSHING PRODUCT. So a show can get rave reviews and still end up not doing too much profit because it doesn't push the product
GAINAX has so many royalties in the EVA franchise alone, they're good for another 10 years.
i don't give a fuck if all the american companies go under. it just ensures i won't ever get v& for torrenting everything. it's not like japan makes anime for us(with a few shitty exceptions).
I hate digital distribution. I hate the idea of paying per episode. When or if that shit happens, we'll still be able to pirate.
I like anime not because it's free, but because it's enjoyable. I'd hate to see animation as a medium die because people can't pay $24 for a dvd
Well, i'd rather Digital Distribution than having to wait on some company to dick around with pressing enough disks and possibly completely underestimating demand.
I hear these production companies are charging more than a niche market is willing to pay for and pulling out the ethics card in a failure attempt at marketing to try and get some pity sales.
I like it because it's enjoyable as well. But it certainly helps that I don't have spend as much on it as I do food or rent.
You still won't own anything, and what's more, it will be full of DRM. That makes it far less desirable than fansubs.
you know i have yet to watch eva...should i bother now? cause im sure i cant find downloads anywhere at this day and age
I'm just a fan of animation in general. what with all the cg and flash animation shows here in the states it's like classic animation is a dying breed. I like anime cause it's about the only good classic animation left
The sales of DVDs in America don't affect the industry in Japan at all.
>>gianex or whatever went under
this is the most retarded thread i have read since being back from b&
That too. And even more on that, there's still hundreds upon hundreds of older shows, movies, and ovas that we haven't seen. Going even further into the classic-ness. Anime might be moving to digital animation, but yes, I love that it retains the same feel as real animation. And people hate CG generally, look at Appleseed.
welcome back lol :D
8/10, You need more practice, NEVER GIVE IT UP!
if you're not buying japanese dvds it doesn't really matter. and it's not like all the revenue for a show comes from dvd sales.
Completely wrong. Most shows can't even get finished unless they're licensed.
That's bullshit and you know it.
A licensing deal earns the studio a lot of money. However if licensers in the US are unwilling to invest, or in the worst case folding like Geneon, the studios are not going to be making as much.
Are US DVD sales what the Japanese anime market hinges on? Of course not. Do they affect the market? Yes, of course.
To save the NA Industry I say the solution may not lie in DVD prices or any of that, but primarily exposure. Anime needs way fucking more exposure, obviously. It needs to be a cable channel too, not a subscribe to one.
i smell bullshit!
Almost completely unrelated,
There are no torrents of Rebuild available yet yes?
dude doesnt adult swim do a good enough job at that?
you'd think with all the ranting otakus and crazy anime tweens that anime would be bigger here
MAYBE WHEN THE DVD IS OUT!
isn't manga in america extremely successful?
eh i barely buy video games, their shit out of luck if they think im going to buy a dvd ill watch maybe once
But almost anything on N.A. tv would be a dub. Needs either optional audio/sub tracks on cable/satellite (is this currently available?) or an overall increase in dub quality.
Or just straight-up subs.
Yes, but manga has a lot more sales going on than anime dvds.
Maybe mix it up depending on the show or time of day.
ohh i see what you mean, yeah thats not going to happen cause americans are lazy and wouldnt want to have to read subs to enjoy a show
AS is giving up on its anime slowly but surely.
didn't they digitally distribute death note subbed? was that successful at all?
yeah man, you can get manga in your local school libraries from what i hear
I'm in favor of dubs when it applies to the right show. Qualifications for a dub must be things like:
1. Not based in Japan, no Japanese characters, no Japanese influence. Every dub fucks some name or something up here or there and we gripe and bitch either way.
2. Better voice actors. Using the same tired pool of mediocre actors really makes shows boring.
soooo dubbed anime is slowly doomed... and manga is ok? is this what this whole thread boils down to?
maybe americans are getting smarter and realizing that manga is the superior medium and most anime aren't worth owning on dvd.
holy fuck you are the worst tripfag in the history of /a/, kill yourself
Lol, Geneon, newfag. Geneon.
The entire economy of Japan could crash and all other countries ban Japanese animation and Gainax would still be making tons of money, endlessly, from Evangelion and now the Gurren Lagann brand. They'll never "go under" - unless a group breaks off like with Sunrise and forms their own, superior studio.
Well manga only has one possible way for us to enjoy it unless we speak moon.
Yeah yeah, DUBS ARE ALL EVIL BAAAWWW
I've heard good dubs.
>1. Not based in Japan
have you watched anime?
i only watch an anime if it comes dubbed in the language spoken in the setting!
There's been torrents out for months, it's just that they're shitty camrips because THE DVD ISN'T OUT YET
Anime's got plenty of exposure. The reason anime DVDs don't sell is because the Japanese are willing to pay twice as much as Americans for an anime DVD. It helps that we don't HAVE to buy the DVD to see the show - if a company releases a DVD that we feel isn't worth the thirty bucks, we can download fansubs which are free and usually equal or better quality anyway. A DVD with just two episodes on it sells for four thousand yen in Japan, which comes out to around forty bucks for around fifty minutes, which is WAY out of most American fans' acceptable price ranges, and it can't be made THAT much cheaper for foreign releases.
Lol, Geneon, newfag. Geneon.
The entire economy of Japan could crash and all other countries ban Japanese animation and Gainax would still be making tons of money, endlessly, from Evangelion and now the Gurren Lagann brand. They won't be going under any time soon.
same shit, different day
>Qualifications for a dub must be things like:
>1. Not based in Japan, no Japanese characters, no Japanese influence.
you are some new, special brand of retarded