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Sorry Shinbo and Gen. Maybe next time.
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>>100351329
No sane person would've expected Madoka to get nominated.
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>>100351329
and we'll all float on anyway
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Well back to not caring about Oscars.
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>>100351329
Congrats Miyazaki, But forzen will win it.
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>implying someone seriously gave a fuck
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How did Despicable Me 2 get nominated? The entire story was so cliche.
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>>100351451
I honestly don't understand what people see in that movie, not even a hater of disney/CG films, and I normally like them, but Frozen just felt mediocre as fuck
>>>/tv/
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>>100351483
So all the threads you Madotards made before this were just totally ironic? Fuck you faggots.
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Madoka is anime, they will never win the Oscar for cartoon
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>>100351654
>Madoka is anime, they will never win the Oscar for cartoon
Miyazaki already won an Oscar.
But yeah, Academy Awards are a joke and Rebellion is shit.
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smurfs 2 was a contender. smurfs 2
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>>100351639
If you actually read those threads, you'd know that no one expected it to get nominated.
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>>100351734
>Miyazaki already won an Oscar.
The real travesty is that Takahata never won one.
But, yes,
>Oscar
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>>100351611
/co/ is on their 200th frozen genera
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>The Croods
>Despicable Me 2

Hell, you know what? I'm not even mad about Madoka, that was a long shot. There were some other films that at least looked more artful than those two that just got snubbed though. When are they just going to rename the category to "Best Children's Film."

Miyazaki is just there because they're obligated to throw in some sort of anime. It won't win.
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>Despicable Me 2

Seriously?
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>>100351860
or Kon
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>>100351885
It is a commercial success like toy story.
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Rebellion should be nominated for Golden Raspberry Award
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>>100351898
He probably would have won if he ever tried to meet the requirements for nomination, there is a serious bias towards western films as it needs to air in LA for multiple weeks.
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>>100351866
you mean 200th "I want to fuck this character so badly" general

it's almost as bad as the katawa shoujo general
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>>100351867
Seriously, there must have been better animated films than The Croods, right? How does a turd like that even get considered?
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Who the fuck cares ? It's always the most popular shit that win, it's never about quality.
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If you think about it.
How many people in 'merica had seen Madoka and how many people had seen "CG cartoon of the month".

Madoka had never a chance.
But the Shitstorm would be glorious if the normalfags found out about it and went on with "muh racism" "muh feminism" "muh rape culture"
I just want to watch the normalfags cry.
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So how long until a non-Miyazaki anime stands a chance at actually being nominated, let alone winning? Do we just have to wait for all the old academy members who still see the Japanese as a"slant-eyed gooks" to die off?

There also isn't a single film nominated for Best Picture that doesn't look like Oscar-bait this year.
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The Academy Awards are just advertisement for the big Hollywood movies so Madoka never had a chance and the only reason Miyazaki does is because Disney licensed it in the US.
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>>100352011
Evangelion already did it 20 years ago
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Madoka didn't even qualify. A film needs to be screened to the public for seven consecutive days in Los Angeles to qualify.
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>>100351999
There was. There was Rebellion.
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Don't worry, Miyazaki. I'll get you that Oscar.
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>>100351329
Did Miyazaki got nominate for Oscar in direction field?
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>>100352029
none because no one makes anime movies anymore.

It's been reduced to "sequels to a successful franchise nobody cares about" or "shitty side projects that don't get aired outside of japan"

the film industry in japan is dead
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Ghibli can mad it!!!
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>>100351867

>implying they give a shit about animation.

There are tons of hipster animated films with actual plot.

But no, they nominate typical fairy tales or Talking Animals shit.

Oscars are just corporate shit.
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I don't understand why people hate him, His works have been fucking great.
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>>100352029
When someone in Japan makes a good anime film. Rebellion was not good.
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>>100352122
Oscars won't change the rules. Its unlikely they will change it when they are about tradition and other shit.
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Madoka is like cryptonite to normalfags.
It would be funny if it was nominated, now I just don't care.
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>>100351611

It's because you're used to anime. A mainstream western kid's movie where 'true love' means love between siblings or friends rather than some idealized lust-driven notion of love between a perfect prince and princess is pretty revolutionary for western cinema, whereas it's pretty common in Japan (see: every Mahou Shoujo ever). It's no big surprise that normalfags think it's great.

Of course, /co/ likes it because they're fucking desperate for decent content, because the western animation industry is essentially dead barring long-running kids/man-child shows like Adventure Time, MLP and American Dad.
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>>100352029
Whathever they do, it needs to be family oriented.

Besides Miyazaki, the only other director that makes that kind of movies and is famous enough to get a chance being nominated is Mamoru Hosoda.
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>>100352233
>pretty revolutionary for western cinema
Western ANIMATED cinema.
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Anno, Otomo, Oshii and Satoshi kon never get a oscar or even a indication. Maybe Madoka gets indication for others categories, as music or art?
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>>100352290
Haha, no.
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>>100352287

That's what I meant, my bad.
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>>100352290
They don't understand anything other than CGI and English language's song
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>>100352290

It got an nomination for best animation in the Japan Academy Awards, but that's it.
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>>100352290

It helps if one of your movies actually run in theaters.
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>>100352112
>the film industry in japan is dead

It's literally having its best time in history. Anime in particular.
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>>100351329
>No sane person would've expected Madoka to get nominated.

Few fanboys are sane. Their tears will be delicious.
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>>100352541
haha
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>>100352541
Seven in charge of anything but clickbait.
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>http://oscar.go.com/nominees/short-film-animated/possessions

Nobody cares about the anime short that got nominated.
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>>100352541
That's sarcasm, right?
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>>100352606
wait, is rebellion the last? or was it four movies?
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>>100351329
But isn't it nice anyway for anime got nominated?

It's for the first time in 8 years
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>>100352541
>Taking seventhstyle seriously
Really? Do you believe that sankaku is a pinnacle of journalistic work, too?
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>>100352632
Don''t usually check shorts but nice to know. Thanks anon
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>>100352112
>dead
Its dead in old fart westerner's eye because most studio is not obey to use retard-shit CGI and don't make idiot cartoon for kids.
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>>100352632
>http://oscar.go.com/nominees/short-film-animated/possessions

Oh, good call.
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>>100352632
Who cares? It's not Madoka.
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>>100352683
CGI is expensive but it looks impressive and is fast to make. hand drawn takes a long time.
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>>100351329
Did Madotards really think their shit was oscar worthy?
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>>100352632
Oh hey, the Kakurenbo guy.
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>Wind Rises winning over Frozen

Good luck
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>>100352632
Short Peace was downright festivalbait.
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>>100352632
Shorts have been nothing but artfaggotry and technowankery for years. Nobody from the public cares about them, period. They're for industry professionals to add to their resume.
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>>100352112
>Implying Hollywood isn't doing one shitty sequel after another as well.
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>>100352723
Yes. Or rather, they think it's too good and too deep and too different to win an Oscar, because the Jew fears Japan.
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>>100352683
There's absolutely nothing wrong with CGI, if it's done well. You're the same kind of old fart if you insist all CGI is "retard-shit".
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>>100352674
Try them, they're fun as hell.

Start with Genius Party and Genius Party Beyond.
Best computations imo.

Some go batshit insane with experimental animation techniques. And some directors in it are full time batshit insane like Yuasa.

There are shorts with no speech at all, there's one with a full-time monologue and lots of medieval alchemy crap on screen, god I need to rewatch everything.

It's so different from TV anime that it feels refreshing.
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>>100352128
You mean Miyazaki?
I don't think there is anyone hating him.

But there certainly is that problem with Miyazaki anime receiving an entirely different treatment than regular anime. That's probably pissing a few people off.
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>>100352767
2deep4u
2deep4public
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>>100352662
Pretty sure anon was being sarcastic.
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>>100352767
Explains why so many madokafags would've thought rebellion had a chance.
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>>100352883
>mfw watching Limit Cycle and Dimension Bomb


Ohira's Wanwa on the other hand was GOAT
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>>100352906
>that problem with Miyazaki anime receiving an entirely different treatment than regular anime
Some people are REALLY late to the realization that Miyazaki movies are better than LN imoutoshit adaptions.
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>>100352906
To be honest, Miyazaki's films are pretty different compared to most regular anime. I can see why they get special treatment.
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>>100352977
Dimension Bomb is okay if cool visuals are enough to hold your attention for twenty minutes.

Limit Cycle is a gigantic pile of trash.
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>>100351329
Suck it Abe!
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>>100352977
>Limit Cycle
God I wanted to shoot myself during every second of that short.

Also Robot Carnival is fuckwin for the most part. Uematsu's Presence is haunting as shit and highly unusual as it's full animation. Yea, 24fps. God love the excess of the 80s.
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>>100353030
Miyazaki makes a movie about little girls:
>Oscarworthy art!

Anyone else makes a movie about little girls:
>Imoutoshit!
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>>100352632
What should I be searching for to download this? Nothing's coming up on Nyaa or anyplace else under this or the full film Short Peace
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>>100352972
No, it doesn't.
Rebellion was clearly intended to fill pockets and the story was well-founded, the techniques were there since the TV original. Nothing experimental or artsy-pandering
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If Frozen gets and Oscar I'm gonna shit my pants laughing.
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>>100352906
You know what really pisses me off? The fact that almost everyone either ignores, doesn't know, or has forgotten about Takahata.
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>caring about awards given out by Jews

/pol/ says hi
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>>100353128
Then /co/ would ask moot to put those guys in the mlp board.
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>>100353115
A good director makes an outstanding movie.
>Oscarworthy art

Anyone else adapts erotic teenager literature.
>Imoutoshit
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The problem about anime is genre

They don't want to tell about story itself, instead they using same old trope over and over again, sometimes they call it deconstruction just for a bit change

Kiki's delivery service, the main character is a maho shojo, but no one gonna compare it with your otaku garbge like Madoka Magica, or manchildren show PreuCure, becasue these two are just genre anime aim for manchildren and kids. the same reason Pacific Rim got snubbed.
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>>100353161
No-one wants your input.
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>>100351860
>>100353145
To be fair, Takahata only directed 2 serious films until recently. Grave of the Fireflies is an all-time great and Oscar-worthy, whatever that means. Only Yesterday was a well-deserved box office success, but perhaps a bit too light in its nature of nostalgic "healing anime" to be very well-known outside of Japan.

I consider Takahata to be Miyazaki's equal solely on those 2 films, but since he directed much fewer, it's no surprise people don't know him as much.
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Remember, these are the faggots you're dealing with.
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>>100352475
>animated movies best time is history
see>>100352643

and GEE!, lets just just go over the worth while anime movies of 2013
>Golden Age Arc
bad movie, even worse adaptation, terrible for everyone
>Garden of Words
decent movie, but no one but anime fans will give 2 shits
>DBZ:Battle of the Gods
no one but man children watched this
>Anime Mirai 2013
all of them were mediocre but LWA, and even then no one but anime fans will find it anything special
>Space Pirate Captain Harlock
have yet to see it but I've heard it was underwhelming and mediocre as fuck
>Madoka movie
self explanatory.
>Star Drive Movie
mediocre movie for a mediocre series

and then finally we have The Wind Rises, which is objectively the best animated movie of 2013, not that there was much(or any) competition.

of 40 some anime movies only 6 or so were original titles, while an overwhelming majority(like 90%) were sequels to successful TV series.
and of the 6 only 1(the wind rises) would I consider actually recommending as an actual "film"

now please, tell me how anime movies are having the best time in history
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>>100352850
Yep, its nothing wrong to move smoothly like robot. its just inferior to hand-draw and movement is limited to robot simulation movement while hand-draw's movement is not limited like those lazy-ass retardly-expensive CGI.
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>>100353179
>Kiki's delivery service, the main character is a maho shojo
She can fly on a broom... that's about it. Her being a "magical girl" is hardly the central point of the film.
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>mfw Madokafags actually thought that their shitty movie based on their shitty tv anime was going to be nominated for an academy award

Madokafags confirmed for more delusional Nikufags who think she is going to win
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>>100351611
>>100351866
I'm from /co/, and seen this movie. Those fucks only care about that one fucking song LET IT GO, and circle jerk it like an MLPG. It is a good movie, but so fucking mediocre, and no actual change in character design apart from Tangled.

It deserves none of the hype.
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>>100353225
In what way was Pom Poko not serious?
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>expecting the worst of the nominated for the nomination chinese cartoon movies to win in the first place

Madokafags everyone
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>>100353296
That was his point.
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>>100353310
You're talking about outside of /a/, right? No Madoka fans on /a/ expected it to win or even get nominated.
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>>100353291
don't forget yoyo and nene.
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>>100353357
I don't think that qualifies her as being a mahou shoujo. The term is associated to a genre, Kiki doesn't transform into a little girl with a cutesy costume in a scene bursting with flash.
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>>100353162
He might as well do it now, I have the suspicion it's the same group to begin with.
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Will Dicaprio get it?
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>>100353358
No, Madoka fans here are this delusional.
They even think that Madoka makes more money than Game of Thrones.
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>>100352029
>There also isn't a single film nominated for Best Picture that doesn't look like Oscar-bait this year.
Gravity is too high budget to be pure Oscar-bait.
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>>100353179
B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T
The reason ghibli shit gets attention is because disney bought it, nothing more nothing less, miyazaki works are mostly ambient movies i.e. cool environment, lame / generic plot, however it is targeted at children, so the fucking murricans don´t creep out like they would with madoka, because it doesn´´t break their expectations of how a "cartoony" movie should be.
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>>100353450
goddam it there was a thread of that the other day
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>>100353446
>Leo

Never.
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>>100353450
So you're either a troll or a retard that actually took all the oscar bait threads seriously?
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>>100353459
This is an unfair thing, how? If you make a film that is enjoyable by a lot of people, it will get more recognition. If you make a film that is only targeted at its fanbase, other people won't give a shit. That seems logical enough.
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>>100353530
I take the blogs seriously. The ones that think madoka will win, then cried about it not being on the list.
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The film wasn't that great, but the visuals and the music were beautiful. That made it better than most of the nominated movies.
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>>100353571
Too bad that alone doesn't get a nomination.
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Japan’s top cinema rag Kinema Junpo published a list of the best anime movies of all time.

The ranking, covering Japanese animation and arrived at by a panel of 67 film critics and other experts:

*1 Lupin the Third: Castle of Cagliostro
*2 Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
*3 My Neighbor Totoro
*4 Crayon Shin-chan: The Adult Empire Strikes Back
*5 AKIRA
*6 Puss-in-Boots
*7 Urusei Yatsura 2
*7 The Tale of the White Serpent
*7 Prince of the Sun
10 Summer Days with Coo, Summer Wars, Castle in the Sky, Grave of the Fireflies

Best foreign animated film of all time

*1 Fantasia
*2 The Nightmare Before Christmas
*3 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
*4 The King and the Mocking Bird
*5 Hedgehog in the Fog
*5 Mr. Bug Goes to Town
*7 Toy Story
*8 UP
*8 The Man Who Planted Trees 
10 The Iron Giant, Wallace and Gromit
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>>100353604
But some of the other movies had a bad plot and were ugly as fuck. Anyways, anyone who still believes that awards have to do with quality is too naive for this world.
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>>100353555
>Reading blogs from autistic manchilds
There is your problem.
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>>100353673
Yea you're right, it didn't stay for longer than a week.
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Just a friendly reminder that the Oscar nominations are voted on by flipping coins, favoritism and SNL skits.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/oscar-voters-brutally-honest-ballot-422546
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>>100353638
>*4 Crayon Shin-chan: The Adult Empire Strikes Back

How in the fuck?
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>>100353414
I'm firmly opposed to this silly idea that some people promote that terminology should be defined by cherrypicked examples instead of what it actually means.
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>>100353638
>Totoro in top 5
Well deserved.
>No Mononoke Hime
Really, Japan?
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>>100353697
I never go to blogs, blogs are for losers, I come here and see all the posts/screenshots others make and laugh at them.
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>>100353712
Kid's films can be very well-made you know.
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>>100353749
>Implying shin chan is aimed at children
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>>100353712
Its a good movie, go watch it.
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>>100353459
>so the fucking murricans don´t creep out like they would with madoka, because it doesn´´t break their expectations of how a "cartoony" movie should be.
you mean like that one ghibli film where we see both a brother and sister die in depressing fashion during the terrors of world war II?

ghibli films are a solid and complete package, they're going to give you great and memorable Score, they're going to give you great animation, and they're going to give you a believable and engaging story.

>>100353604
want to know why it's called the "animation" category? I'll give you 3 guesses.
The Wind Rises looked and sounded fantastic
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>>100353726
>Advanture type story about human should coexist with nature
Nausicaa already did it
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>>100353770
did you watch the english dub that made pop culture references and swearing?
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>>100353450
>Madoka fans here are this delusional.
But in all the Madoka threads, they were joking about how it would be funny to see Shinbo go up there dressed like an idiot. But it's just a pipe dream because it won't be nominated. Really, go read the threads. No one expected it to be nominated.
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>>100353358
Yes, clearly every single poster in those threads was just kidding around.

They made daily threads about Madoka being considered for nomination ironically.

The fact that you're so deadset on denying that there were people here who genuinely believed it could happen, and hoped for it to, makes me believe that you're one of those idiots and are enacting damage control.
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>>100353815
Nausicaa also blew wang and didn't look even 10th as good as Mononoke-hime
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miazaki a shit
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>>100353846
>Madoka is the next EVA
>Madoka will win the oscar
>Madoka BDs make more money than the bible
>WE ARE ALL JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED

Mumis Mumis shake shake.
Meguca is best grill. Am i right?
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So, who's going to win best picture?
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>>100353905
smurfs 2
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>>100353858
but it could of happened. Shinbo just didn't want to give oral to a bunch of jews.
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>>100353905
I want her, that movie was beautiful, it's going to eb gravity, and that makes me sad, because while I think it was a superb movie, Her was something magical...
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>>100353858
>>100353893
To say they were pretending to be retarded would imply that they even sad it would win. But they didn't. In the threads, there were literally a bunch of Madoka fans saying that it would not win. Go check the archive.
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>>100353905
Some shit that isn't even good, but made a lot of money.
Same as any other year.
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The Oscars are a highly prestigious AMERICAN award. Why would we give it to some senile radiation monkey?
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>>100353943
I didn't watch Her yet but I really want to.
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>>100353638
>*1 Fantasia
Mah niggas
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>>100353905
I hope Gravity.
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So another shitty american movie will win a shitty prize given by Murricans. Nothing new.
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>>100353706
What the fuck did you expect, that they'd vote as anything other than the people they are? That they can't pick between two things and throw a coin isn't a big fucking deal, you know.
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Nice. Easy win for Frozen.
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This makes me little sad.
I guess there was still a sliver of hope inside me.
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>>100354000
Welcome to Hollywood, if you don't like it go make your own film industry
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>>100353807
>want to know why it's called the "animation" category? I'll give you 3 guesses.
>The Wind Rises looked and sounded fantastic
If this were the case, then why are 3/5 of the other nominees CGI shitfests and the other one is a slideshow? Ancient kikes don't give a shit about the hand drawn animation fidelity.
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>>100353951
>In the threads, there were literally a bunch of Madoka fans saying that it would not win.
For it to have a chance at winning, it would need to be nominated in the first place.
So, yeah, they expected nomination.
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HOW TO WIN A OSCAR BY ANON: Choose one of the following options:
>Make your movie about WWII
>Make your movie about the holocaust
>Make your movie about some kind of prejudice (racial, gender, sexual orientation, etc).
>Make your movie about someone embarking into a self-destructive spiral of alcohol, drugs and gay sex.

>HOW TO WIN AN OSCAR FOR ANIMATION
>Be Pixar
>Be Disney
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>>100353941
>could of happened
>Shinbo just didn't want to give oral to a bunch of jews
Who let you out of your crib?
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>>100354075
Don't forget about adding some AMERICAN PRIDE in your movie.
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>>100354064
No, they did not. Again, go to the archive and just skim through some Madoka threads and the Oscar threads. No one expected it to win or be nominated. You're so desperate to come up with another reason to hate the Madoka fanbase and make it look even more retarded than it actually is. It's already stupid as fuck. I don't know why you need to try and make up shit to make it look dumber. They didn't think it would win or get nominated.
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>>100354075
You missed a line:
>Be Dreamworks in a year Pixar did nothing and Disney stumbled
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>>100354154
Nigga how butthurt can you be over a shitty sequel movie about lesbolust?
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>>100354002
>[Had not seen any of the films, but had heard good things about Paperman so he voted for it.]
Thats a pretty big deal.
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>>100354119
>implying you don't wine and dine the Jews in your way to stardom.

do you even Hollywood?
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>>100354075
And what if we make a movie about a retarded homosexual jew in Poland 1939?
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>>100354187
Shrek deserved the Oscar
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Why aren't there separate categories for 2D and 3D animated films yet?
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>>100354186
> and make it look even more retarded than it actually is
Why are you so adamant about defending a fanbase you admit is retarded?
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>>100354075
>No.
>Nope. Only one film about holocaust won best picture.
>Fuck no. Academy is very conservative. Remember what happened with Brokeback Mountain.
>Nope, too depressing and personal.

Please, educate yourself. How to win an Oscar? Make a good, big, very conventional film about some important issues or themes (even better when it's related to America).
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>>100353638
>*1 Lupin the Third: Castle of Cagliostro
>*2 The Nightmare Before Christmas
Since when did Japan have taste this good
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>>100354263
Because Murrica doesn't make 2D movies anymore.
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>>100354263
because amerifats don't do 2D anymore
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>>100354263
they see them as the same.
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>>100354263
It's all animation in the end, faglord. Stop putting anime on a pedestal because of the way it is animated.
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>>100354258
Wait, Shrek won an Oscar?
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>>100351860

But what about Mamoru Hosoda ? He never even got a nomination for Summer Wars or Wolf Children.

Wolf Children should have beaten Brave by a fucking mile. Is America still cleaning the sand the Japs left in their vagina at Pearl Harbor ?
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>>100354263
Because no one of value is making 2D. At least for muricans.
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>>100354237
Wins all the awards and hearts.
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>>100354186
I'm finding plenty of comments like that, though.
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>>100354337
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsDDEY1Rf-Q#t=3m20s
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>>100354343
It's because of idiotic comments like this that this thread feels like it belongs on /pol/ or /tv/

Apply yourself
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>>100354075
>Make your movie about someone embarking into a self-destructive spiral of alcohol, drugs and gay sex
Is this a thing ? Name of the movie please
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>>100354333
This isn't about anime you dorkus malorkus, I just want traditional animation to get more recognition and not be dumped into a category with all the Dreamworks/Pixar lookalikes.

>>100354354
I guess the category would be pretty barren, or foreign.
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>>100354407
Monsters Inc. was better.
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>>100354280
If you guys want to shit on the Madoka fanbase for legitimate reasons, have at it. There are a million and three reasons you can do that. But making shit up for the purpose of trying to make it look even worse than it is is just stupid and makes you look worse than them.
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>>100354465
Both were shit.
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>>100354491
>Shrek
>shit
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>>100354343
Wolf Kids never had a qualifying run
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>>100354483
But if you look in the archives the hopes are there. They're all over the place. You said we should have a look, and we did have a look, and what we see confirms OUR arguments, not yours.
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>>100354445
Didn't someone make a biopic about Freddie Mercury recently?
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>>100354628
Buddy, you're a liar and you fucking know it.
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>>100353291

he said the film industry not animated films. you said the film industry in japan is dead you didn't specify you meant animation.
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>>100353446
I wish, /tv/ would flip their shit.
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>>100354497
>implying ume-sensei would of been there

I thought she had a social phobia of sorts
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>>100354732
That'll do fitz, that'll do.
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>>100354445
Wolf of Wall Street literally includes all of those things.
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>>100351988
More like their 200th "I want to ignore the entire message of the entire movie and pretend that these sisters are fucking each other"

I think it's hot but the way they're going about it there is just fucking disturbing.
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>>100354788
>one movie
>IT'S A THING
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When will Japan make an animation about drug abuse?
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>>100354445
That describes Requiem for a Dream pretty well, but that didn't win an oscar.
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>>100354904
Isn't that a sequel to labyrinth?
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>>100353446
I hope. He's been doing a lot of good movies recently and deserves it.
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>>100351329
Hahahahahaha, get fucked, stupid fans of that shit.
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>>100354842
Welcome to the N.H.K.. At least it touches on the topic. Well, the manga and novel does, haven't watched the anime.
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>>100354842
The same time America makes a film about sexualized 8 year olds.
>>100354937
If only, the world needs more David Bowie crotch.
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>>100354954
holy shit, I don't know anything about nhk and this is the first time I hear about drug abuse in it. Now I'll never watch it if they did take it out.
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>>100354991
>The same time America makes a film about sexualized 8 year olds.
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>>100354732

/tv/ would celebrate along with him.
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>>100354991
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056193/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119558/

She's 14, but close enough?
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>>100354842

Code Geass had refrain and Kamisama no Memochou touched the subject
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>>100355137
That girl from lazy town should be in a film about child trafficking, and naked for a minute. She looks underage.

>>100354991
Theres a bunch of them, taxi driver, man on fire 1987
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>>100354991
There's Hard Candy, I guess.
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>>100354842
If memory doesn't fail me, there was some of that in Boogiepop Phantom.
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>>100354991
Oh oh, you mean sexualize in a good way right?
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>>100355215
Yes, there was that alien crazy drug.
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>>100354991

Lolita from Kubrick and Leon The Professionnal
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>>100355276
Both which are over rated.
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>>100355137
>>100355186
>>100355199
>>100355276
None of these are 8. Early teen != preteen.
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>>100355358
apocalypto
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>>100355270
That wasn't really drug abuse and the issues that lead to it and come from it.
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>>100352541
>victory is inevitable
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA.
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>>100355313

>Kubrick
>Leon
>Overrated
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>>100353329
I haven't seen the movie but that was a good song, just looked it up now.
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>>100354842
Akira to a degree was about drugs
Welcome to the NHK
Paranoia Agent did too I think..
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Only miyazaki makes anime worth a damn, I like the niche shit (any other anime ever) but its just that, shit.
And rebellion sucked
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>>100351978
is this happens i'll be laughing my sides off
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>>100352906
Miyazaki movies are different, and they are more artistic than your average anime movie

The problem is that movies like the croods and despicable me are your average western cartoon movie, and it's baffling how they can get on the nominated list over other more artistic cartoons, both eastern and western
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Oscars are western awards. Japan has its own awards.
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>>100352475
>>100352683
>>100352771

Japan is getting beat by Korea in music, TV, and film and there's nothing you can do about it
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Miyazaki did not use goods for box office.
Shinbo used goods goods for box office.

ALL OF ALL
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>>100359289
Japan Academy Award is dead. because, there are too few candidates.
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>>100351329
As expected of the masters.
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>>100353179
This.
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>>100353329
"Let It Go" is the best part of the whole movie, and I actually went and saw it with free passes. Though since i'm not a fan of Miyazaki and none of the other movies will ever see an Oscar in their lifetime, Frozen will win it.
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>>100353329
Wow that song sucked I couldn't even stick with it the whole way, at least now I know there are people out there with shittier taste then mine.
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>>100361339
>Though since I'm not a fan of Miyazaki... Frozen will win it.

I doubt whether you're a fan or not will make much of a difference in the decision.
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>>100361520

No, you don't understand.

Frozen WILL win it.
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>>100351329
Maybi nextu taimu? No you die nao, white piggu!

Watch the Oscar ceremony for the butcher living up to his name.
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>>100361423
>Madokafags in charge of musical taste

The movie OP should've been nominated for best song, right?
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>>100361175
>old men with beards
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can anyone help me where can I find a torrent to Kaze Tachinu? I tried searching on nyaa and turns out it was a fake.
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Why'd the mod delete the other thread?
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>>100362147
>torrent

You're gonna have to wait until it hits the US for a shitty camrip, and dubbed too.
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>>100362520
because this shit belongs to /co/ and /tv/
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Do any Japanese animation films ever get Oscar recognition aside from Ghibli's?
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>>100362707

No, because Disney only gives a shit about Ghibli
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>>100362697
>The Wind Rises got nominated
>Not /a/ related
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Makoto Shinkai will be nominated one day
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>>100362520
Because it was too offensive.
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>>100362648
Why? Why can't they post a non dubbed version and make some shitty yet readable subs?
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>>100362793
>not Madoka got nominated
>/a/ related
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>Pacific Rim - no nominations
>Bad Grandpa - 1 nomination
Fat mexican weeaboo got rekt as hell.
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>>100353446
I hope so. God fucking dammit, the Lamborghini scene was gold.
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>>100352003
I doubt people that vote even watch the movies
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>>100353179
I dare to say that the main problem about anime and Oscars is that generally the best anime pieces do not fit in what Academy wants. Lets face it, people who vote in Oscars are mostly white old men which love to choose movies that are not overly complicated, not too dark or too philosophic, have clear message, are more or less uplifting in the end.

Now, shall we take a look at great Japanese Animation movies and break it down a little from the (estimated) point of the Academy?

>Koukaku Kidoutai, Innocence, Jin-Roh, Sky Crawlers
Too dark, too philosophic, may be confusing for some viewers

> Kanashimi no Belladonna
Brutally dark in themes, too sexy, too abstract, too psychedelic

> Akira
Main characters are assholes with rage control problems and are doing drugs… aren't animated movies supposed to be for kids?

> Honneamise no Tsubasa
At first it seems rather Oscarish but it deals with various stuff which can get pretty heavy at times… Actually, if the direction would not be so carefree then it could be seriously depressing drama because some serious shit is going on but while MC is so laid-back it may "go unnoticed". Anyway, in the end, it's again too philosophical and has too "unclear" message since at the end, we didn't know anything, was that effort for the good? Or will it all end in vain? Will the guy even be able to come back? How many died? It didn't glorified space-travel, it questioned its practicality and such.

Well, in the end these are great films. Oscars are not everything, there are shit tons of other awards. And what about awards? Just be happy that you like it.
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So when is Miyazaki getting into politics?

I expect him to form a party that is sort of like a cross between the Liberal Democrats and Greens and appeal to Japan's youth.
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4.0 will win 2016 oscars

screencap this if you want
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>>100354075
I dont understand - Hollywood and the Oscars are run by super jews, but Walt Disney fucking hated jews.

Why is Disney winning oscars? Shouldn't they be snubbed?
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>>100372378
Walt Disney is dead and so is his dream.
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>>100372421
Jews bought out the company?
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>>100372435
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Iger
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>>100372683
>Sasuga
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>>100369604
GITS, J-R, Sky Crawlers all suffer from absolutely paper-thin characterization (good movies by animu standards, but Oshii can't portray people for the life of him), Innocence is outright bad in several ways (starting with the script) and Akira's only good point are the visuals (to cite Clute's Encyclopedia of Science Fiction, "the novelistic narrative - which despite weepy moments is rather low on human feeling - is unfolded awkwardly").
Oscar voting is flawed and biased, but let's face it: anime movies don't win mostly because they really aren't very good.
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>>100372683
>Sasuga
I'm dying. Sasuga anon.
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>>100351935
Toy Story is good though
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>>100352003
>The Kings Speech (won best picture)
>Most popular
Pick one.
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I read like 10 news articles about oskar nominations on two languages. Nothing about animated movies was mentioned at all. That's how people care even about miyazaki.
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>>100353450

Because it does.

You really think GoT turned over 400 million $?

Whole HBO with all movies and TV series makes a billion a year.
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>>100372769
>anime movies don't win mostly because they really aren't very good.
This is true, and the appeal of them over western animated films is because it's grittier while American-produced animated films are fucking terrified of the idea of doing anything risque in narrative or thematically because animation is for children durrhurr instead of trying to inch it to make it more "mature", which is why animated films that come barreling out of the gate with a PG-13 or R rating flop unless they're based on a long-lived/popular IP, like South Park or The Simpsons. Even then they still need to be a "comedy" in some way, like Eight Crazy Nights (which is shit), Aqua Teen (shit movie based on shit show with an ad campaign that got us stuck with the dumbfuck Stuart "killing Cartoon Network" Snyder), or Fritz the Cat (which is still the most successful animated independent film despite being rated "X", which was and still is a rating that equates to commercial suicide).

American animation is petrified to leave its comfort zone, so anything that budges slightly off center gets praised or put under fire for being "different" rather than for its own merits.
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>>100351860
Well is Kaguya-Hime airs in LA later this year maybe we'll see him get nominated, mainly because it doesnt seem like there are many animated feature films coming out next year.
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Nobody gives a fuck about Oscars. Stop making these shitty threads.

Gen didn't even know what Oscars were when somebody asked him about the nomination.

That's how much people outside of USA care.
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>>100373850
I feel really bad for liking a show that has such a retarded fanbase.
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>>100372683
>sasuga
Yes, it's shit, as expected from western 3D animation.
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>>100374039

Whatever. You can be a retard and ignore facts.

http://winteriscoming.net/2012/04/the-finances-of-game-of-thrones/
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>>100372769
>GitS and Jin Roh have paper-thin characterization
What the fuck am I reading?
Also why didn't Patlabor I and II win an Oscar? Please.
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>>100373980
Even in US most people don't give a shit about oscars especially in animation.
I can't find a word Miyazaki or Wind Rises from latest oscar news (exept anime websites).
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>>100373980
>Gen didn't even know what Oscars were
Bullshit.
>That's how much people outside of USA care
Bullshit again, maybe in the countries that don't have a movie history.
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>MADOKA WILL WIN THE OSCARS
>Madoka doesn't even get nominated
>WE NEVER WANTED IT ANYWAYS. JAPAN DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE OSCARS ARE AND THEY ARE SHIT
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>>100374394
People maybe care but not about animated movies.
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>>100374394
Nope, Gen didn't know what the Oscars were and it had to be explained to him. I'd bring it up in the archive but it's down at the minute. It's not bullshit
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>>100374039
I struggle to see why it's impossible to believe that Madoka makes more money. What do people buy after watching GoT? The books, maybe. What do people buy after watching Madoka? Fucking everything.

GoT is undoubtedly more popular, but I can see how Madoka makes more money.
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>>100374509
Wow. It's still very hard for me to believe it but if it's true he's really an ignorant peasant, maybe oscars are shit nowadays but it wasn't always this way, when the fuck did he drop out of school, elementary school? And he even is into visual media industry... I have no words.
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>>100374483

Cool reverse trolling.

Nobody thought it's going to win.
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>>100374483
>Madoka will definitely not even be nominated, but it would be cool if it did so we can see Shinbo say "sank a u berry much"
>it doesn't get nominated
>as expected
ftfy
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>>100374864
>Nobody thought it's going to win.
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>>100374632

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2012/03/game_of_thrones_how_hbo_and_showtime_make_money_despite_low_ratings_.html

That guy knows shit. HBO's total annual profit is a bit over 1 billion $. For the whole network, with all the shows and movies combined.

S1 of GoT cost 60 million $ and made 34 million from disc sales. Madoka cost between 1-2 million $ and made 35 million with disc sales.

Hom much people subscribed to HBO to watch GoT is impossible to tell. But they didn't report a major rise in subscriptions.

Meanwhile Madoka's merchandise made 400 million $ til mid 2013.
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>>100374864
>Nobody thought it's going to win.
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>>100375319
>I post it again because no one responds
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>>100359216

It's par the course.
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>>100353179
> instead they using same old trope over and over again

Like every fucking medium
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>>100353807
>and they're going to give you a believable and engaging story.

Oh fucking please, only a few even have a coherent story with real development that doesn't seem randomly plucked out of a children's picture book.
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>>100359216
>The problem is that movies like the croods and despicable me are your average western cartoon movie, and it's baffling how they can get on the nominated list over other more artistic cartoons, both eastern and western
For the old farts in the academy animation is for kids only.
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>>100369604
This post is incredibly accurate.
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>>100374632
Some of these haters would say literally anything to make a show they don't like look bad. How much would have had to lower yourself that you would rather have a movie like Despicable Me get nominated over Rebellion?
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>all that CG shit from the west
Disney is endlessly turning in his grave
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>>100353959
>"prestigious"
go back to mcdonalds you filthy amerifat
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>>100372769

Why didn't any Satoshi Kon movie win any oscars or nominations? Something like Millenium Actress is perfect for it.
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>>100375837
>hating on CG
It's just as good as traditional animation.
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>>100375914
Were any of his films even released in theatres in the states?
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>>100375914
None of them ran in LA cinemas for over two weeks.

>>100375971
>It's just as good as traditional animation.
Not when every show has deformed blob designs
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>>100375406
He only won 2002 because everything from the west was shit.
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>>100376050
That's not the fault of the medium though.
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>>100375569
>For the old farts in the academy animation is for kids only.

For most everybody, animation is for kids only.
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>>100375406
>Shrek
Deserved
>Spirited Away
Deserved
>Nemo
Deserved
>Incredibles
Shrek 2 was better
>Wallace
Deserved
>Happy Feet
The worst out of the three
>Ratatoille
Deserved
>Wall-E
Deserved
>Up
Deserved
>Toy Story 3
Deserved
>Rango
No idea - Haven't watched it or the alternatives
>Brave
See Rango
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>>100376125
True.
I've always wondered why animation ended up in a ghetto in the west whilst Japan makes animation for just about everyone.

>>100376166
Brave is shit
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>>100372683

I appreciate all the subtle character expressions but something feels a tiny bit off about the movements to me, particularly with the heads. But it's mostly good.

And technically sakuga needs to be drawn and doesn't refer to CG works
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>>100376279
Old Disney films get all those subtle character expressions but with 2D
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>>100372683
It's almost too good. It's impossible to discern the minutiae in one viewing.
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>>100376403
all you have to do is look between them....
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>>100376166
Brave doesn't even deserve to be in the top five for animated films that year, much less the best.
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>>100376166

You give Shrek way too much credit.

And you're not looking at the Nominations, which is what I posted it in response to the other post.
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>>100376166
>shrek
Are you stupid? Shrek is disgusting.
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>>100376667
Farquaard please go
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>>100351329
.....what movie did shinbo direct?
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>>100376725
Shrek obviously
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>>100376725
Kizu.
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>>100376704
Who is farquaard?
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>>100351763
>2
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>>100376725
Monsters University
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>>100376784
how the fuck can an oscar jury even get their hands on kizu with english subs?
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>>100376923
Kizu is done. Go to nyaa and download it.
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No one ever expected Shinbo/Rebellion to get into the final five and if they did, they're retarded.

Miyazaki won't win because Frozen is in the running and they ate that shit up.
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>>100353638
>The Nightmare Before Christmas
Why?
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I knew it didn't stand a chance to e nominated, but I was also hoping that it not getting nominated wasn't going to be true.
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>>100353446
Wait, Leonardo DiCaprio still hasn't won an Oscar yet? What the fuck! He's one of the best actors of all time!
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Finally Madokafags will shut up. They have to realize that their otaku pandering garbage isn't worth shit.
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>monsters not nominated
>croods and despicable are

what the fuck
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>people actually believe there are people on /a/ who thought Madoka would win an oscar.

Yes, Madoka is shit, but am I being trolled or do people actually think ANYONE on /a/ could have possibly thought for a second that it would win?
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>>100382915
>people actually believe that people thought that there were people on /a/ who thought Madoka would win an oscar
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>>100383133
>people actually believe that people actually thought that people thought that there were people on /a/ who thought Madoka would win an oscar
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>>100351329
>Maybe next time
when you "retire" again to drum up publicity?
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>>100383317
>people actually believe things at all
>2014
>not being an empiricist
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>Taking academy awars seriously
I don't even remember the last time I watched the oscars.
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>>100383665
Aw cmon anon, don't you want to see ground-breaking original stories with stunning animation like the Croods win?
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>>100383753
No, fuck that, fuck the oscars, I'd rather watch movies myself and form my own criteria than hear what Mr. Shweiberg, Mr. Goldenberg and the nose that knows tell me what is good, what isn't and what is groundbreaking.
Also
>Dreamworks winning
Frozen has that shit won right the fuck now.
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>>100384052
At this point the oscars are just a corporation.
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>>100384052
But think as many of us do. Say pigs flew, money grew on trees, peace was declared in the middle east, and Madoka was nominated for an oscar (I won't say won, because then we'd need to up the circumstances a hell of a lot more).

Wouldn't it be hilarious? Wouldn't it be a great shitstorm? Sure, it's meaningless bullshit - but that just makes it all the funnier.
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>>100353291
>>Space Pirate Captain Harlock
>have yet to see it but I've heard it was underwhelming and mediocre as fuck
Oh wow fucking pedestrian.



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