Why she is so perfect /a/ ?
I want to be her pantsu
Homufags need to be purged
This whole fanbase is horrible. But this particular Homufag is especially annoying.
Because she's the best
I want to be her socks
I want to smell her feet.
>Sayakafags need to be purged
fixed that for you
Goddammit OP, I just fapped.
See how she lays her hand upon her cheek?
If I could be but a pantsu upon her cheek so that I may touch her hand!
I'd rather be her fingers.
>See how she lays her hand upon her cheek?
No, anon, you should want to be Madoka's, then you could feel Homu's delicious lips
They look so soft. Good god.
That crescendo before you cum inside of her.
She only cares about Madoka, waifuing her is a waste.
Even if she was real, she would never love you.
The answer is simple. Become Madoka.
Mami hijack, lol!
Unless you were the one that was nice to her in timeline 1. Then you'd get a homu obsessively clinging to you.
They told me I could be anything...
So I became a god
Sayaka is a beauty
>implying that you can become as pure, loving, wonderful, cute and cool as Madoka
Yeah she is.
We don't need Mammy-san anymore
Mami was nice to her and Homura didn't give a fuck about her, is Madoka or nothing.
It's about as impossible as Homura being real.
Madoka was first, she told Homura she had a cool name.
Best girl reporting in.
Fuck off, Nagisa, nobody give a shit about you.
So how did the most useless meguca ever become a witch powerful enough to bite off Mami's head? Unless Mami was just a shit.
It doesn't take a whole lot of power to bite off a head, she just had surprise on her side and Mami froze up.
>Mami fights homu every step of the way
>she still gets to live in the homuverse, and a free loli out of it
Too MOE, Mami!
>美 - beautiful
>樹 - wood
They're all too moe
You don't have to worry, I am here to save you from your shit tastes!
Oh yeah papa likey
Why must Japan ruin everything
They all have to die! Its the only way!
>Mami will never say this to you
No homu killing.
How would you bully Mami?
Mo' moe, mo' problems
>No girl will every say this to me
I would bully her with love
How you even do that?
>shipping mami with nagisa
havnt you read TDS?
this is OTP right here
its also the only way to get more fan art of Kyouko, she only gets drawn as some arm candy for another girl...
>Wanting any other girl besides Mami to say that to you
What is the objective of bullying? to make the person cry.
I would simply give her so much love that she would break down into tears.
B-but age gap yuri is my fetish.
>What is the objective of bullying? to make the person cry.
That's not the goal of bully at all.
Successful Mumi hijack.
Well done, all. Homufags, are you even trying?
Then go to see some good yuri age gap, Nagisa is just shit.
what is it then?
Mami is still older than Kyouko
We've already accepted Homura's superiority.
She's cute though
That's not much of a gap
Please don't do that, waifu wars are bad
So she will be beautiful if she stay dead like a log?
Can Homu and Mami ever get along? It seems they're destined to fight.
That's the idea.
When there are shipperfags, anything is possible.
Homura is the best meguca.
Mami won't stand a chance against Akuma Homura.
I'd give her my log if you know what I mean.
I know, I am just sad that Madoka is truly over now and we have nothing to look forward to.
There's still the BDs to look forward to. And the spinoffs?
>Madoka is truly over now
You are cute, anon.
She wants only Kyousuke's log though
At least we'll have high quality reaction images of smug Homura.
>Madoka is truly over now
>And the spinoffs?
exactly where is my cute girls doing cute things meguka spin off
They can get along just fine, it's just that Homura don't know how to deal with Mami when she's at her most vulnerable moment.
Maybe one day
That's because Homura is autistic.
please enlighten me.
What is there to be hopeful for?
Yes, Charlotte is better
>you will never use the soulless husk of sayaka body as you own personal onahole
The ending of Rebellion was written to be able to support continuations. I think Shinbo said a long time ago he wants to do a two cour season. And on top of that, just use common sense, anon. You have a show making fuckloads of cash. I don't have the numbers, but Rebellion made many money. Why wouldn't they milk it?
Please stop saying unkind things about Sayaka, she is meant to be loved
Oh, I will love her alright.
I will love her again and again and again...
In a rapey way.
Mami is my favourite
There is always hope!
No dude. That's not love.
What is love?
Best character on the show is obviously
What about love?
If only we knew someone who was an expert at that sort of thing.
Rape is technically forced love
Halt, what faggotry goes on here?!!
Rape is love.
There's plenty of that.
Homusexual raping of Sayaka.
Except, Kevin-kun. He can be spared.
Baby don't hurt me
Fuck off, kevin.
Not Kevin. But I'd date him under the pretense of marriage.
Kevin is the best Sayakafag
He is the only one I can tolerate. the rest are fags.
>only two pics in this thread are of kyouko
>they are both only feature her as one haft of a yuri pairing.
being a kyoukofag is TRUE suffering
It's like 3 AM.
Kyouko is pretty good too.
Think about it.
Kyouko is a Sayakafag.
I'd sacrifice myself to take Kevin out.
You're just butthurt son
Do you really mean that, Anon?
Like out to a date?
I'd do a lovers' suicide with him like Kyouko and Oktavia
>having another friend that Madoka
You're the hero we deserve
Kyouko has good taste.
It's possible, maybe.
everybody knows there is going to be a season 2
Kyouko the only other Meguca she can trust
Are you an idiot?
Is there doujin of this, btw?
She's friends with a cat.
No, are you?
You want to say that Kyouko is the only one that Homura manages to convince and make it cooperate with her stupid plans.
nope. Japan proves once again their shit taste in doujin material
>plan leads to superior ending
Kyouko knows best
The only grip I have was Rebellion was lack of Kyouko as herself, kinda wished she had a good fight scene.
Her reconciliation with Sayaka in the end though was the highest point for me..
>MMPM 2nd season
>Madoka and Sayaka
>Mami and Kyouko
>Homura ends up all alone
how much tears/rage would /a/ produce?
I'd cry for Homura.
She brought this upon herself.
Homura will have to satisfy herself with a loli
It's not like Homura is using underhanded methods to get her to cooperate. Kyouko likes her naturally and Homura thinks she's reliable.
So we can check off the "rapist" box on that chart that keeps floating around.
Homu could easily be snuck up on as she's playing with her soul gem (as she tends to do), have her soul gem snatched away and handed off to someone or something that can quickly get it far away enough and be tackled to the ground. Wouldn't take but a few seconds for her lights to go out. When she comes back to consciousness, she finds herself naked, sore and covered with love juice. Annoyed, she would march into the bathroom where someone was taking a shower and<spoiler> slap Madoka on the head with a giant paper fan.</spoiler>
Sigh. I'm getting my forum scripts mixed up.
Homu no longer has a soul gem
That doesn't mean she considered her a friend or trust her, if that were the case she would have asked for help from Kyouko on the bridge instead of throw her aside once she fulfilled her duty.
Yeah its the Dark Orb now.
She has a weird habit of eating the thing and shitting it out constantly though.
Homu has a lot of weird habits.
why not her vibrator?
She wanted to keep shit a secret you nigger, they were inside a barrier and a false move would endanger everyone.
Kyouko agreed with her, she wasn't "tossed aside".
But anyway, they are bros, not friends. Friends are usually the part of the problem in these situations.
Not by that faggot she isn't.
> Liking homura = satanism
>Why she is
This bothers me so fucking much. I don't care about shit grammar or anything else, but its just the wording of that phrase that infuriates me.
That's not true. Homura isn't Satan. She's Homura. The term you are looking for is Homuism.
>not going full Homu worship
>mfw I auto corrected it while reading and didn't even notice
She WAS tossed aside, they could have done the investigation together but Homura opted not to do so because she didn't trust Kyouko and most probably she still saw her as a suspect at that moment.
Everyone has their faults.
Or because Homura is a loner who isn't used to having anyone close to her.
Kyouko would have been no use in the investigation, she doesn't know what's real and what's not.
Because Kyouko doesn't know anything about the previous world, witches, barriers, all the time lines.
She doesn't remember, so she wouldn't know what to look for, what to believe, what to investigate.
she needs to stop being so sexual. I can't fap to my goddess.
Or you could take it at face value and Homura thought it would be easier to do a solo investigation atm and have Kyouko on backup.
After that scene though, everything started to get out of her control.
Please stop Satan shit thing, She is Akuma.
She knew what to expect from such an indecent dress.
Homura is gross.
The reason she made a perfect world everyone lives in happy at the end is jsut Madoka wanted that.
If Madoka wanted the world end, clearly She'd destroy the world completely.
Her love is gross.
>true love is gross
You are a faggot.
At that time, neither Homura, she just was recovering pieces of her memory, and if Kyouko would have be useful or not is not the point, the point is that Homura didn't ask for help from someone she supposedly "trust".
I...don't think you understand some things.
Homu love is best love.
I sure hope you guys don't do that.
I really hate that fucking outfit.
homu a slut.
Homura pulls it off.
Would you like her Homulilly dress better?
I like her sexy devil goddess dress
Gothloli Homu is best Homu.
I wish I could be Homura.
She looks cute in anything
Yes, this is the Homu I know, that other indecent outfit is nothing like Homura.
Do you have severe self loathing issues?
Nuts to that. I wish I could be Madoka. Having Homura eternally ache for your love must be a nice feel.
So is it even debatable that Homura does not love Madoka romantically?
I'd make a shitty Madoka because I'd let the universe burn while doing indecent things with Homura.
She looks especially nice in this yukata.
>I'm the only one who remembers
She trusted Kyouko more than anyone else, she talked to her first. Kyouko doesn't remember anything, it would be foolish to drag her into something only Homura can really investigate.
She even makes her last phone call to Kyouko, and apologizes for involving her.
Nothing on heaven or earth would keep me from Homura if I was Madoka.
That type of trust only exist between fucking bros.
I really like the stuff of this guy, he captures especially well the broken relationship that Madoka and Homura have now.
It's a kind of love people like us would never comprehend.
If I had to guess, I'd say It probably involves all forms of love mixed into a mesh of obsession.
He does a bunch of cool stuff.
>homufags are all self-loathing masochists
Im a self loathing sadist personally.
I'd beat up Homura to make her feel better.
Again, that's only because Homura can only convince Kyouko about her plan, Sayaka and Mami would have refused (at least in the eyes of Homura), Kyouko is the only one that listen to Homura because she is someone who doesn't give a shit and is easily carried away by the ritme of other people.
I'm not a masochist at least.
She only enjoys pain that reminds her of Madoka.
0/10 would not beat homu
>there will never be another anime as epic as Madoka
Seems simple enough. Why can't stupid Homura get it right?
>Kyouko only listens because she's dumb
Nope, fuck off
Go to a dentist you toothy freak
I'd let Kyouko bite me
>not liking fangs
Be carefree and listen to everything that other people say isn't the same to be an idiot.
I don't know why faggots believe she's into physical abuse, Homura is only interested in her tortuous love for Madoka.
She has lost her way.
People just take things and expand them into the range of their fantasies. Sort like what you do when you admire your yuri fanart. Homura said she enjoyed the suffering that reminded her of Madoka. So some Homufags like to think she's a masochist. Homura also said she loves Madoka. So some yurifags like to think she wants to fuck Madoka. You're no different than he is, faggot.
>Homura wants to be sadistically fucked by Madoka
I think it's different when the characters are directed towards each other.
What some seem to want to do is self-insert into their own fanfiction and make their favorite character act uncharacteristically interested in them.
I get your point, but I think there's a difference between the yuri fags and the waifu fags.
I just enjoy yuri images because I like seeing them together, I don't think that Homura want to fuck Madoka, she just wants to be with her.
Of course. Waifufags are more shallow and pathetic. Probably the worst part of any fanbase.
Come on, we've always known that.
>make their favorite character act uncharacteristically interested in them.
But it's okay for yurifags to make characters uncharacteristically interested in sex? One form of character assassination is justifiable because the characters are interacting with each other? They're both outside the realm of possibility. And they're both just harmless fantasy. Let the waifufags and yurifags do whatever they want.
You keep sayings that while you jerk off to your doujins of Homura and Madoka raising a hcild you faggot.
No, fuck off waifu fag protector. Dismissing half the story because you want sex with one character is fucking stupid. Yes, it's different when Homura is interested in Madoka instead of random guy.
Between the characters it's never actually clear. To suggest they could never possibly do anything intimate is silly, the entire damn universe was reformed out of love. It is not "outside the realm of possibility" to imagine something more than what we are shown.
It's left open to interpretation, there's a bunch of potential double meanings for yuri. There is no double meanings for waifu fags, or Homura being interested in you. Kill yourself.
It's common knowledge that most people come off as uninterested in sex on the outside but still desire it privately.
Is child-rearing a fetish people have?
Wow Madoka threads are shit
What a hcild?
I would kill myself for my goddess
The distance between Madoka's chin and the back of her head is waaaay too great.
She's, like...laterally wide?
Why that has two different pages stuck together?
Two women can have children. It's not legal, but the technology is there.
You're doing the same shit. You're going from point a to point b just like waifufags are.
>Homura loves Madoka
>So maybe she wants to have sex with her.
>Homura loves Madoka because Madoka was kind to her
>So I fantacize that if I was kind to her in the same way, she's be interested in me
It's the same thing. You're both manipulating the characters and the story to fit your fantasies. Don't pretend yours is any more justifiable just because there's no self-insertion. That's an arbitrary distinction. Also, it wouldn't even matter if either of you faggots went way out into left field in a way that meant zero sense and had no logical backing within the story. Because it's fucking harmless fantasy. Get off your high horse you faggot. You're the same as the waifufags you condemn. Pic related is the same as >>100345793
At least I don't self-insert ignoring everything about the characters.
Is magic, not technology.
>Homura loves Madoka
>So maybe she wants to have sex with her.
What's so illogical about that? It's not like they're related. (Not that that stops anything in anime.)
Nothing. What waifufags and yurifags do is both logical.
It's not the same thing, ignorant waifufag.
We don't ignore the story. Our fantasies are deeply rooted in original relationships and the original work. Don't even compare us to waifufags which aren't even real fans. Just sad, pathetic, lonely people.
I think we may be using different definitions of "logical".
>Homura having sex with a bunch of random bald men is the same thing as HomuMado yuri
Waifu fags are cancer
Waifufags are inserting something that doesn't exist in the story (themselves) while yurifags fantasies are entirely possible because both characters exist in the story.
It's not harmless. Because of waifufags most discussions about the series are completely shit. They don't care about the plot, nor characters. They just think about their dick.
>You're both manipulating the characters and the story to fit your fantasies.
No really, want to do lewd things with the person you love is a natural step, now if you were talking about Sayaya and Kyouko you would have a case but Madoka and Homura is not.
Sayaka and Kyouko are both shipped by the series itself and especially by the movie. I don't like this pairing, but it's still based on something.
shipping > waifu idiocy
>thread devolved into insecure yurifags lashing out at waifufags
A fantasy is more justifiable than another fantasy because one fantasy has more basis in the foundation of said fantasy. Do you know what a fantasy is? It doesn't need to be logical or congruent because it's a fucking fantasy. Following, you're inserting an idea that doesn't exist in the story while they're just inserting themselves.
Yeah, nah, you're an idiot.
Kyouko dies for Sayaka so she won't be alone.
I know some may not consider it yuri, but it is something, and I still think it's infinitely more possible than any of the characters going off with random unrelated people.
I can have a fantasy that it won't rain tomorrow. That's far more logical than a fantasy that my neighbor's house will get struck by a meteor tomorrow.
A fantasy doesn't need to be logical because it's a fantasy.
It doesn't "need" to be logical, but that doesn't change the fact that some fantasies are more logical than others.
That's interesting. This thread gave me a fetish for pretending I'm Madoka and opening myself up to having Homu ravish me.
I hope you aren't implying that yurifag fantasies of megucas having wild sex with each other are anymore logical than waifufag fantasies of having wild sex with megucas.
I self insert a Kyouko.
what now faggot?
That was kind of the premise for this entire line of conversation, yes, if you were going to take issue with that you should have done so a couple dozen posts ago rather than going on about some stupid shit about fantasies not needing to be logical.
Well you are incorrect. See above posts that disprove that claim.
Uh. Mind pointing them out to me?
And Kyouko died for Mami too, and Sayaka is in love with a boy, but that does't matter because my fantasies are more important, SayaKyoufags are no better than Waifufags, both distort the characters in favor of their own fantasies.
MadoHomu is clearly a separate case of these two because it is based on something that really happened in the series and we see how Homura clearly expresses her love for Madoka.
I'd insert things into Kyouko.
Waifufags don't distort characters. They don't care about them in the first place. They just like their design and sometimes character traits. That's it.
And as several people told you, love leading to sex isn't illogical at all.
Kyouko doesn't die for Mami so she won't be alone, she dies for Mami since she feels like she owes her something.
Like how Madoka is always willing to throw her life away, or contract, to save Sayaka. She considers herself a coward after Mami died.
Sayaka has feelings for her childhood friend, but obviously her sense of justice is far more important. She never makes a wish to be with him, she never even acts on her feelings which she considers selfish.
MadoHomu can be considered friends just as much as lovers. There's a reason Madoka calls Homura her "best friend", you know. She never acts with lust towards Madoka either, so you can dismiss it entirely if you really really want to.
>retarded waifufags try to defend their delusions
Precisely. And self-insertion is not illogical either.
Yurifags don't care about characters in the first place. They just want to watch them rub clits.
Ask yourself the question, why would Homura want to have sex with Madoka? The answer is, because she loves her.
Ask yourself the question, why would Homura want to have sex with a self-insert of the audience?
>And Kyouko died for Mami too, and Sayaka is in love with a boy, but that does't matter because my fantasies are more important, SayaKyoufags are no better than Waifufags, both distort the characters in favor of their own fantasies.
That was true pre-Rebellion but not post-Rebellion. Now Sayaka and Kyouko are extremely close, actually living together, and Sayaka said something this mushy to Kyouko.
It is. It's the lowest kind of fantasy. It implies that you don't care about the setting, relationships between characters or their personalities.
>That's interesting. This thread gave me a fetish for pretending I'm Madoka and opening myself up to having Homu ravish me.
It should be the other way around.
That must be the reason why most non-h doujinshi have yuri undertones or yuri romance, right? I wonder why there aren't more non-h heterosexual doujins? Probably because your self-inserting fantasy is only for retarded perverts who don't care about anything except their dick.
>go up to normalfag
>tell him about how you spend hours fantasizing and fapping to two underage japanese school girls making out with each other
>or even them raising a child together
>they are cartoons no less
go ahead, try it.
we are equally pathetic, there is no reason to fight each other. We are kin, we should celebrate our love of a franchise together, even if we express it in different ways
I self-insert as a girl
It wasn't really true pre-Rebellion either, people were just off in their character analysis.
Some people were completely wrong, these are the ones that call Rebellion "pandering".
>There's a reason Madoka calls Homura her "best friend", you know.
Yes, because that's the word they have to use if they don't want to kill their target audience, aka waifufags.
Why would I give a shit what a normalfag thinks. You're really reaching now.
Because within the confines of the fantasy, you assume Homura fell in love with you instead. You assume you were the first one to show her kindness.
No it doesn't. It's a fantasy. It has no bearing on what you really think of the series.
>It wasn't really true pre-Rebellion either, people were just off in their character analysis.
Well, yeah. Though it was pretty one-sided on Kyouko's part.
No, I don't identify with you and never will. In fact I feel deep contempt for people like you.
And why the fuck do you think everything is about sex? Typical self-inserting idiot.
>Because within the confines of the fantasy, you assume Homura fell in love with you instead
That did not happen in the series. She fell in love with Madoka. When you have to rewrite the basic premise of the story to make it make sense, it's illogical.
>yurifags thinking they're superior for doing the same shit
I just like more intimate stories with my favorite pairings, anon.
It's not all fapping. Also the raising a child thing like a normal family is a little too weird for me. They're magical girls, that doesn't necessarily translate into "normal family that raises a child".
Which is wrong because that spits in the face of the story, showing you don't actually care about it.
And you don't exist in the story. There you go. Your fantasy goes against everything established by the original author.
Yurifags really are the worst.
I would rather have to deal with Sayakafags, at least they were a bit of fun.
Gee, you sure told us.
but it's not the same shit, and we don't think we're superior.
Cry more. You're the lowest form of any fandom.
guys pls, can we have more homu and less autism?
>They're magical girls, that doesn't necessarily translate into "normal family that raises a child".
Isn't that what Nanoha is about?
But homu and autism are synonymous, anon.
At least I don't spend my day trying to put down one group of a shared fan base to try to feel better about myself
>can we have more homu and less autism?
doesn't increasing the former also increase the latter?
so all those posts attacking yurifags weren't you?
You're both making assumptions. Homura never wanted to have sex with Madoka in the story, but you're assuming she did. Homura never fell in love with a self insert, but you're assuming she did. You're both taking liberties and you're both coming to logical conclusions based on what you see in the story. Are you going to be so arbitrary as to say that because the waifufag fantasy takes more liberties, it's less logical? That doesn't make it any less logical. It just means that it's taking more liberties. If that's you're problem with waifufags, say that. But stop using the word logical. Your fantasizes are both logical.
>starts an argument
>loses it hard
>calls the other side pathetic for having the argument in the first place
its too late.
This is the time all the yurifags come out and shit on everything.
Its best to just pack up and wait untill they finally pass out in their own shit.
Then we can make more decent threads
>At least I don't spend my day trying to put down one group of a shared fan base to try to feel better about myself
>Yurifags really are the worst
None of that proves that they want to fuck or that they are in love, you aren't better than a waifufags, faggot.
No. Fuck you and fuck waifufags. They are the worst.
They don't talk about the story. They don't discuss relationships between characters. They don't care aboutthe series itself. They just post fucking shitty fanart and talk how they want to fuck fictional characters.
Even goddamn Star Trek autists are better. Every fucking fanbase is better than them. There is nothing worse. Shit, they aren't even fans. They are like cockroaches, insects, germs.
>That doesn't make it any less logical. It just means that it's taking more liberties
This is a hardcore semantics argument now. Taking more liberties means it is a fantasy that is farther removed from reality. Just stop already.
>say we shouldnt fight and just be happy that we both love the madoka franchise
>"No fuck you"
I thought you were decent people, I was wrong.
>Homura never wanted to have sex with Madoka in the story, but you're assuming she did
No, we are assuming she could, you know, because that's a normal step in a relationship.
>everyone who disagrees with me must be the same person!
nice persecution complex there.
>Are you going to be so arbitrary as to say that because the waifufag fantasy takes more liberties, it's less logical?
>That doesn't make it any less logical. It just means that it's taking more liberties.
what the fuck am I reading?
For someone as madly in love with Madoka as Homura, assuming that she is sexually attracted to her is *more* logical than assuming that she isn't. Especially given her physical reactions to Madoka.
You cast the first stone, faggot. Put up or shut up.
and yurifags only post about how much they hate waifufags.
your a shit too
That's not really raising a normal family. Vivio is a damn badass in the making, Nanoha and Fate are super important military figures.
I guess I just don't like the "raising a family is the end goal" type stuff.
Oh, and one more things. You ruin virtually every discussion on /a/. Every fucking series ultimately ends up as a shitty waifu circlejerk. It happened with GuP, Yuyushiki, K-ON, Strike Witches, Madoka and so on.
Logical statement, Homura loves Madoka so she may want to have sex with her. Logical statement, if Homura fell in love with me instead of Madoka, she may want to have sex with me.
So, how many hours until Oscar?
its not a normal step in a relationship between two underage middle school girls.
You fucking pathetic sex starved freak
Notice something about the second statement? It has an "if" in it. As in, it requires an additional step that did not occur in the actual series.
The first follows from a premise that is true. The second follows from a premise that is beyond laughable.
Isn't it a bit too early to release BD of Rebellion?
When compared to previous one.
Is there any reason or plausible theory?
Yeah, Homura and Madoka are not in the position where having a kid makes any sense at all. If they did, the child would probably be some sort of cosmic entity herself.
Is there any good reason for it to take eight months in the first place? I think they just like fucking with us intermittently.
>if Homura fell in love with me instead of Madoka
Here's the thing, that would never happen because she is interested in Madoka for a very specific reason.
>its not a normal step in a relationship between two underage middle school girls.
having sex, maybe not.
*wanting* to have sex... do you even remember middle school?
After Homura and Madoka finally consumate their relationship in S2, the new universe that is born with be their "child."
Well the argument was about logic. Go shitfling with someone else if you want to change that now.
>she is interested in Madoka for a very specific reason.
SAYAKA IS A BITCH
Please, I summon up the writhing mass of sayakafags. Yours is the only force that can drown out the shrill whines of these pathetic yurifags trying to justify their silly fetish
What are you talking about? This is about logic. If your starting premise did not happen, your conclusion is less logical.
But what about veteran magical girls who have seen so much suffering and destruction?
I'd love to put on my Sayakafag hat after this but I need to go to sleep soon anyway
>implying the white knights would ever fight your petty war for you
The waifufag fantasy is not any less logical because they're both making fair assumptions based on characters. They're both building off something that exists.
Not your personal crusaders.
yurifag dont understand logic.
A waifufag fantasy is less logical because its premise is something that did not happen.
your waifu is a slutty bitch, NOW DEFEND HER.
Neither one is a magical girl anymore. They're goddesses.
Yeah you're right. Fuck this shit.
About 2 hours. Livestream of nominations will be here:
Don't get your hopes up though.
That is true. Urobuchi considers Madoka still a goddess, so maybe she somehow retains some intuition of all the past experiences she's had.
I accept your concession, just try not to be so retarded next time. That's all anyone can ask.
waifufags > yurifag
Do you always throw temper tantrums likes a child when people get tired of explaining simple things to you that you refuse to accept?
I thought you were done?
Frostav is never done. Wherever he goes he must shitpost.
Yurifags assume, in the case of MadoHomu, that Homura once she's in a relationship with Madoka she going to want to consume her love with Madoka because that's the natural step of things.
Waiufufags assume that they are going to be able to do what Madoka did for Homura and that Homura is going to love them back in the same way she loves Madoka.
One of those two is more stupid than the other, anon.
Be glad it's over. Homurafags reached an all time high of faggotry with Rebellion's ending.
Or they'll make a sequel and have Homura lose which would make the Homurafags fuck off but probably make another group of equally annoying faggots.
>implying we don't want Homura to lose
She's totally not a slut, she is the best and purest. I am really convincingly angry at you for implying she is. I hate you so much.
gayfag and anti-yurifag extraordinaire. though I think he mainly whines in the Sakura Trick threads.
Egotistical samefags are difficult to ignore. You've lost the debate, but it doesn't really matter. What bragging rights do waifufags have?
>My fantasy is just as logical as your fantasy.
Or if you won.
>My fantasy is more logical than your fantasy.
Do you realize how inane this thing is? Everyone who wasted their time in this discussion should be ashamed. Especially yurifags because you people are ridiculous arrogant and condescending.
Is that what all those "Homura did nothing wrong" posts were meant to imply? Gee man, next time I'll have to read between the lines. You guys are as deep as Madoka.
>Do you realize how inane this thing is? Everyone who wasted their time in this discussion should be ashamed.
Welcome to /a/.
lots of those are at least partially ironic.
the Homura fanbase is quite splintered.
You are a rare example and I salute you for that, most Homufags think she didn't nothing wrong and don't need the help from Madoka.
It's a big fanbase because Homu is best meguca.
And most Homufags are right.
If someone tells me it's wrong to hope, I'll tell them they're wrong every time
She did nothing wrong, but I still think she needs Madoka.
Where do I stand?
This is why Homura and Madoka will never be happy together.
Best Homu coming through
Homura wasn't right, but she did the wrong thing for the right reasons.
One of the main themes of the series is that there is no easily defined right and wrong.
They'll never be happy period.
being homu is suffering
I prefer Akuma Homura to Moemura.
In hell for promoting lesbianism.
Homura is despair. Despair is a lack of hope. Madoka is hope. They don't mix; there's fundamental dissonance.
Why not both?
Homura is evil you nigger
If she's evil, why do I still love her?
Homura is not despair, she is love.
Homura is not evil.
Didn't she say something like, I love despair and suffering because it reminds me Madoka or something?
Yes. Her despair is precious to her because MUHDOKA.
Love is despair and hope, anon.
So Madoka gets off on hope and Homura gets off on despair.
Her love is disrepair.
Her love is suffering, as she can never let herself be with Madoka anymore.
That's why she rapes Sayaka everyday.
HomuSaya went form hatesex to Homura raping Sayaka.
I don't think of them as a romantic pairing, but I like the HomuMami dynamic in the rare times they get along (like that one series in Kirara Magica where they live together). Homura can lend some stability and security to Mami, while Mami can give Homura some maternal affection. It's really cute; such a shame that Rebellion showed how rare those moments really would be.
Homura gets off on Madoka.
Yeah but despair makes her think of Madoka.
One interesting thing is that while Mami is usually opposing Homura for some reason or another, in whatever comes after Rebellion, I can see Mami following Homura's side if there were another conflict. She of all people would probably want to break the 'happy' status quo the least, other than maybe Kyouko.she
It mostly depends on the timeline.
I'd like to see some Homura raping Sayaka.
Any more feet pictures like that?
Whatever the case, Homura raping Sayaka sound more appealing.
There are really so many people that don't understand that love is both despair and hope? That is why Homura calls it the maximum human expression, what the fuck.
>Homura tips her fedora and calls Madoka "M'lady"
It makes more sense thematically to leave out the hope aspect of love when talking about Homura.
Why? She embraced hope with her own two hands.
I don't understand why people keep saying shit like this, their top priority will be help Homura, like they fucking did in the barrier.
No, Homura always had hope.
That's retarded Jap logic.
Love is Love, Hope is Hope and Despair is Despair. Love is not Hope and Despair. They're just being edgy shitlords.
Because then you get the nifty little Hope vs Despair/Madoka vs Homura thing.
Is not, you're ignoring a part of the story for whatever fucking reason, is stupid and fuck you.
>Wears a fedora.
She is the savior we need.
>anon not knowing anything about love.
i swear to god, it has to be the same person composing 80% of these messages all day every day in every single one of these threads
this is seriously fucking ridiculous
They'll want to stop Homura and bring her back to normal, yes, but Homura might be able to manipulate Kyouko and Mami into joining her by using their feelings for Sayaka and Nagisa. Homura vs. Madoka works even better if the rest of the magical girls are against each other, too.
Love is its own emotion it is neither the embodiment of hope or despair. Though like all emotions it is a part of the tangled web of feelings.
almost as little as you know about japanese culture!
If you don't know that love is both hope and despair, then you've never been in love.
But current conflict is law vs chaos, not hope vs despair.
What exactly would 'helping Homura' entail though? Sayaka's probably going to try and pull a Marche because she's a baka (seriously, she objects to the world without even knowing fully what's going on), and either Homura's going to stop her, or Madokami's going to come back and tell Homura that that shit's whack.
>implying Homura is good with human emotion
But love is the strongest, maybe we can say it's just greater than both, and can perhaps use both.
Law vs Chaos some fucking stupid d&d shit. At least hope vs despair makes sense.
Just fuck off.
it's all vague girly emotional bull shit that means literally nothing, just what the viewer WANTS it to mean and WANTS to see
I think both Homura and Madoka are love.
Madoka is selfless, pure love. Homura is obsessive, dark, weird love.
>it's all vague girly emotional bull shit that means literally nothing
Says the guy making fake discussions in these stupid ass threads.
Do you spend every single day like this? You have got to be the most delusional, crazy mother fucker I have ever seen on 4chan. Or anywhere. Ever.
>I think both Homura and Madoka are love.
>Madoka is selfless, pure love. Homura is obsessive, dark, weird love.
This. It's Love vs. Love. Though neither is completely pure.
What does chaos mean then? I would think chaos is just pure destruction, endless war, disorder.
But Homura just seems to represent MORE order, or at least a different kind of order. She actually seems to help build up the lives of Madoka, her friends, etc.
Where as before you had the potential of the end of humanity due to witches/gretchen. A constant cycle of death, destruction and suffering in that kind of magical girl system, a pro-kyubey system is what I would call it.
But I don't know anything, pls explain.
Retards say Homura is chaos and Madoka is law. Just disregard them swiftly.
Idk have you tried a dictionary
>Just disregard them swiftly.
But that's what they fucking says in the movie, what the fuck you think was the point of Homura question in the halfway?
I want to suck on her toes.
>Retards say Homura is chaos and Madoka is law. Just disregard them swiftly.
but Urobuchi himself said that Homura is the force of Chaos in the world.
>Retards say Homura is chaos
>Urobuchi himself said that Homura is the force of Chaos
Not seeing a contradiction here.
Urobuchi doesn't understand what he writes. He said Homura isn't gay after all.
She's a homusexual
>He said Homura isn't gay after all.
But he didn't say that, he leave that shit ambiguous and considering the movie he couldn't say that shit because it's a fucking spoiler.
There are hardly any instances of canon, explicitly mentioned homosexuals in anime. I can't even think of one...
>is homu gay
>nah it's not that special
Also calling Homura gay wouldn't spoil shit what the fuck are you talking about
Yeah, but Urobuchi said Homura is Chaos. He also compared her to Lucifer.
I guess this might be an eastern religious(buddhism, nirvana religions, dualism?) perspective? Attachment to the material world is evil, bad, chaos, etc. Spirit world is good, nirvana, order, law. Which is wrong from a western perspective, which is why Homura did nothing wrong.
I thought it was the idea that Homura values love over law. The pinnacle of human emotions, human values, above some system.
Not that she loves endless war, chaos. Maybe these things potentially lead to chaos, but the previous worlds were always filled with ridiculous humanity-ending and universe-warping chaos anyway.
Chaos is just the the opposite of order, faggot, and Madokami is order.
Can chaos love order?
No, that is forbidden.
Homu only always need help in Yurifag's fantasy but in reality she is okay by herself since she's always lives alone
Madoka did the wrong thing that's why Homu have to did the right thing
>Homurafags: maximum denial
Fuck off man. Yurifag vs Waifufag has been dead for 2 hours now. Don't restart it.
Yep, she is evil who do the right thing and correct the false god like Madoka
Just left the thread die, faggot.
Man, this image is so beautiful. I've been staring at it for a while now.
Agreed. It's easily top ten Homura fanart.
>selfless, pure love
Bitch was probably drunk when she sent Madoka off to die in a hurricane for unexplained reasons.
Well, is Madoka's love for Homura completely selfless and pure? She did make sure that Homura not only could remember her but also had an actual physical token from her. Just as Homura's love for Madoka isn't completely selfish.
Yin and Yang. Both of them contain elements of each other.
>no madoka in nominated
To the surprise of literally no one.
It's good. I don't want shitty normalfags to discuss this show.
Too bad, but in any case it would have lost all the awards to The Wind Rises anyways simply because it's Miyazaki's last movie.
Why is Madoka so worthless?
It's not like it ever had a shot, but I won't pretend I'm not a bit disappointed.
Needed to make room for such artistic movies like Despicable Me 2 and Monsters University.
>implying she isn't worth heaven itself
>implying she isn't the purest
>implying she isn't still goddess
>implying she didn't plan this
>implying anyone on the magical meguca market can compete with her love demon creating potential
Why is Mami such a rapist?
I don't think he implied half of those things m8.
They'll never nominate 2 films from Japan for this, no matter what. Anytime Miyazaki releases a film you can pretty much guarantee it's going to be nominated as opposed to anything else.
>Despicable Me 2
That's bullshit though, even Rebellion was better.
Ribbons, power, self-appointed onee-sama, boobs, ribbons, a little too eager to tie up girls, etc
>Anime it has fans, I guess.
Why would they nominate weaboo shit like Rebellion, when clearly the rich, deeply textured, narrative of The Croods was already set to win best animated feature well in advance.
Meh, all Rebellion proved to do was make Madoka's one action she took in ep. 12 look incredibly stupid. She didn't need to put the detail "I want to purify them by my own hands." and it doesn't matter anyways because that part was erased by rightmura.
It turned a almost Christ-like sacrifice into just "wow what a worthless decision, good thing Homura fixed it."
Still though I find a reversal to be fun.
>tfw you'll never get a doujin where Madoka and Sayaka were the school bullies with Madoka being the brains and Sayaka the dumb muscle
>Homura makes a wish so she can have the power to get back at bully Madoka
>Turns out they're both magical girls too and start picking on her again anyways
Why is Mami using red ribbons for tying Homura up, when her usual ribbons are yellow?
Does this mean they are fated lovers?
She did need to put that part. She did it all in that instant, anon, and THEN reformed the universe.
Now it was codified into a law by her doing it exactly as she wanted it done.
Madoka made the perfect wish, anon. It wasn't a mistake. You could say Homura's actions were necessary from a certain point of view without trying to diminish Madoka's efforts.
Its the red string of rape.
Just imagen what she would have done when she got back after she beat the cake witch.
>red string of rape
God dammit, why did I laugh.
Well, Madoka could have wished for it to be done by an exact duplicate of her personality or something, but that might not have worked out as well.
Let all be bound by the ribbons.
The fake last movie though
Now if I only had her tying up Madoka and Kyouko I would have a complete set.
>that doujin where mami mindbreaks from the realization of the truth
>ties up all the other girls
>makes a futa cock for herself from her ribbon magic
>rapes them all
I know of the one where she rapes Homura with a ribbon cock and lets Madoka see. But this one I haven't heard of.
I never knew how much I wanted this until you said I could never have it.
maybe it was that one. I could just be imagining the other girls in it.
Kyouko is in the background.
I don't think I have an image where everyone is tied up.
This post makes me feel things.
I know but its just her profile.
She's try to kill everyone once she learned about soul gems.
You know, like she did in episode 10.
That or rape because she is so alone.
She has a loli to rape now.
Implying it wouldn't be the other way around.
how to get it i see only 4chan pass
Am... am I the only one who equally appreciates all the girls from most shows besides a few exceptions?
They all have their different looks and personality, and I enjoy them for their different aspects. I'd be really hard for me to chose between homu, madoka, mami or sayaka. I'd rather have them all.
But it seems everyone here just likes one and hates the others, like some kind of wars going on between fanclubs. Why can't we equally love everyone? harems are the bests!
This nigger right here
This nigger gets it
I love the girls near-equally with the exception of being full HomuHomu.
I'm sure everyone does to some degree. People just have their favorites.
The view of someone who has a character as their favorite might not be the same as the view of someone who has the same character as their least favorite.
Sometimes that can cause clashes.
you are an actual fan that appreciates th-
>harems are the bests