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I need your honest opinion /a/, should I rewatch Gundam Wing? I just finished the first episode and I seriously can't stand Heero Yui. To think I actually liked him as a kid. Does the Nostalgia wear off or will the series become progressively better? I'm asking this because I haven't watched Wing in years.

Watching the dub.
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How about you just fucking watch it instead of wasting everyone's time on /a/, you fucking faggot.
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>>100333838

I am not wasting anyone's time. In this case, its yours for responding to me. Faggot.
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>>100333838
Damn, what's with the rage? Are you having a hard time IRL and decided to take it out on your bros on /a/?
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I never re-watch old anime because it would only ruin my nostalgia.
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No, it's shit. Watch 0079 instead.
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I think that you should stop rewatching anime and just watch one of the hundreds of equally good/bad works out there.
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>>100334593
Well some things are just worth rewatching, if OP isn't sure about that then he should probably watch something different instead though.
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You're not supposed to like Heero in the first few episodes, he's an asshole and a mindless murder machine. That's why they have characters like Duo and Quatra, so you have somebody to like while Heero's story evolves.

Gundam Wing is a pretty good anime IMO. The message is pretty heavy handed even for Gundam's standards about telling us how bad war is. That being said, I think it's pretty unique in that it's an ensemble story. Most Gundam shows are so laser focused on the protagonist's plight and his ship and his friends that the rest of the world ends up being background noise at best. Even in the original, almost every plot thread was centered around what it had to do with Amuro rather than what it had to do with the larger issues of the story.

In Wing all the protagonists have their own individual stories, and there is a larger story of political struggle that doesn't take back seat to them for perhaps the only time in Gundam history. They are critical pieces in the outcome of the war, but they aren't plot black holes around which every event circles.

Thinking about it, it's actually a lot like Game of Thrones in terms of story structure and interweaving of small events in a world tapestry. Talk about being ahead of your time.
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>>100333791
>watching the dub

Good job. The only good thing about the dub is also the only reason I kept watching Wing.
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Heero is pretty much an asshole in the beginning but his constant interactions with Relena and the other pilots he gets better
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I try to watch this shit every now and then and give up 1 or 2 episodes in. Then I forget why I dropped it and try again in a couple months.
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Since your re-watching it I hope you can see how cretin hated characters actually progress in the sires despite popular belief that they're shit.
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>>100336201
Fuck Relena
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>>100336220
The kind of well thought out response I would expect form a 5 year old faggot.
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>>100336201

I remember Relena being kind of a badass after a certain point. She started off being annoying but by the end she was basically Ghandi and giving out "This is why you are complete shit," speeches to every smug self-satisfied asshole in the show who thought they were a cool guy,
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If you're going to write a book about foundational principles and morality politics hidden in a TV show targeted at kids, Gundam Wing is that show. Treize and the OZ characters are an especially rich source of subject material for morality conflicts and social mores. Out of all the Gundam series to have come out of the 90s, Gundam Wing was the series most steeped in the discussion of ideals, politics, the war economy, and the future of unmanned warfare - while other series were either traditionally comical or embraced a more light hearted take on the IP.
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Heero being a douchebag is the best part. He's even like, fuck you to the other Gundam pilots, I'm sinking both our Gundams into the ocean.
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>>100334047
>your bros on /a/
Why don't get back to sucking dick at the frat? You are behind in your quota.
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>>100337560

Well she tried to live as a normal child but Heero blew that the fuck up.

Then she tried the straight up revenge route and fucked that up.

So she was faced with the hard choice of either giving up, or playing the game everyone wanted to play at the time - and Relena picked the second choice, abused the hell out of her political rank and privileges to dick everyone around, usurped global political influence from the top players of the the world order, and used her victory to tell Heero to grow some balls and confront her like a normal dude or to fuck off with his teddy bears.
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Death is a gift given at birth.
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>>100334047
>>100334005
He clearly meant to make up your own goddamn opinion instead of going on /a/ and asking us to hold your hand and form your thoughts for you. These threads are pretty shit: "should I watch x?" Shit, do you need someone to dress you in the morning too?
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>>100335581

My fucking nigguh. Treize, Zechs, and Duo had the only good VA's in the dub.

Took me a long time to realize that Heero's VA is the same guy who does Raiden in MGS.
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>>100333791
Consult the guide.
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>>100333791
I would do it. It is a great work.
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>>100339334
I like how no one ever mentions Victory. At all.
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>>100340205
That's because Victory was shit.
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>>100340205
>>100340299

Fuck you Victory was good. The problem is Victory clearly was meant to be part of the UC saga, executive meddling led to some so-stupid-its-fucking-hilarious segments throughout the show, and its only recommended for UC diehards that want to watch the entire timeline.
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>>100340205
Victory's in the guide. It's right between F91 and G you git.
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>>100337560
No see Relena doesn't believe in absolute pacifism. But since she's a peacecraft and her daddy did, people assume "Oh yeah she's all for absolute pacifism". But she herself says she doesn't know much about it, and is perfectly okay with Heero and the Sanc Kingdom arming themselves with weapons to defend themselves. The only times she really goes hardline with the peace is specifically to fuck with Romefeller (Heero's enemies) and to try to make it so her brother would stop trying to nuke the earth with a battleship.

The reason in Endless Waltz she says that she's been a fool is because she let people keep believing that about her for the longest time, without setting the record straight that yes, peace is cool, but sometimes you have to fight to keep it.
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>>100340412
aahaha ahahah what the fuck are your talking about
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>>100340485
Gundam Wing as a series can be pretty hit or miss, specifically if you like the story it's trying to tell it's pretty hit. If not? Well you're not going to enjoy yourself.

You have to understand that they spend about 10 episodes building up this guerrilla warfare and setting Oz up as the villains and the federation and then BAM! Oz stages a coup, the Gundams are beaten and the Titular Wing Gundam is blown up in about episode 13 or so. And essentially misses the rest of the show even when it's rebuilt.

The war that the Gundam Pilots are fighting is over in the teens, with the Colonies and Oz reaching an agreement and the world evolving. Specifically it evolves to not need them. The colonies don't want them, earth doesn't want them. And their mission is in essence over. So they wander around and try to search of there purpose. In this time Oz becomes the heroes, then the villains, then the heroes again. The colonies form their own army, the former earth alliance becomes a small bit-part existing in the fringe of space, alignments and mobile suits change as the political sphere changes rapidly.

Gundam Wing is enjoyable if you realize it's that type of tale.
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Seeing threads about old Gundam shows pre SEED makes me sad that there will never be a profoundly good Gundam show ever again.
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>>100340712
The Origin
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>>100335581
You forgot the narrator, who did as good a job at it as I've ever heard.
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>>100333791
Love it because of Heero's suicidal conduct for the first half of the season.
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If you read Episode Zero and see what Heero's childhood was like, you understand why he's an asshole-murder-machine.
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>>100333791
>not watching Build Fighters
What's wrong with you?

http://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJV1h9xQ7Hx-0WipavLDd3mFSLJL1r2XQ
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>>100340712
>not liking Build Fighters
What's wrong with you?

http://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJV1h9xQ7Hx-0WipavLDd3mFSLJL1r2XQ
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>>100340712

I thought /a/ like 00 and Unicorn. When did that change?
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>>100342198

/a/ liked 00 because it was the silliest mecha show since Code Geass
/a/ liked Unicorn in an era of SoL bullshit
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=LtI0Aal3C6w
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>>100342198
>/a/ liking anything Gundam
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>>100341045

Heero's willingness to blow up his Gundam without a second though to win a fight was something I found endearing. He was just such a fucking MURDER MACHINE that the decision to destroy his most important, most irreplaceable weapon was fucking TRIVIAL. Most characters like that regard their "rifle," as super important so they can complete their missions or whatever, but Heero was such a god damn soulless husk of a human being that his Gundam was literally the only thing less important than his own life which he regarded as worthless.

It takes a special kind of badass to resign himself to a future of fighting his guerrilla war against the whole planet with your local Zaku equivalent instead of a city-killing super robot just to accomplish the current mission objective.
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>>100342389

Not "ICameHereToLaughAtYou.png"? Shameful.
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>>100342418
Keep in mind Heero has the most fucked up childhood, as his dad and mentor was an assassin and he went from there to working for Dr. J He knew what Dr. J wanted to tell Oz "These are not for you, and these people will die to defy you"

also, you should read Glory of the Losers, the manga remake of Wing.
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>>100333791
>ever liking Heero unironically
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>>100339334
age is empty
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>>100344514
Yeah because this hasn't been updated in god knows how long. Someone needs to highlight the pros and cons of AGE as well as add Gundam Build Fighters to the list.
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>>100344514

>ongoing
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>>100344514
>As of the end of 2011
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/a/ having better discussions of Gundam Wing than /m/?
Why do I keep going there again?
This same topic would be WING A SHIT, POST THE GIFS UC IS BEST FUCK OP
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>>100344604

Because no one told you that real /m/ died 3 years ago
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>>100344711

I've seen enough Gundam to know that that isn't true Anon. Don't tell lies.
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>>100344604
>/a/ having better discussions of Gundam Wing than /m/?
I'm nit sure if this is better. /m/ has already detailed on why WING is shit while /a/ is too up in their own asses with nostalgia to care.
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>>100338387
>Gundam Wing was the series most steeped in the discussion of ideals, politics, the war economy, and the future of unmanned warfare
Someone actually wrote this and is probably not trolling at all.
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>>100345885
>*not
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>>100339334
>chastises Wing's suit for not being practical
>praises Endless Waltz's suits



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