Okay, so I've finished the final revision.
Is there anything else that needs fixing?
Just making sure I got all the bases covered.
I don't think FUSE Kazakiri is supposed to be that close to the Archangel, had Accelerator and Acqua not joined up the fight she would have gotten wrecked pretty bad, and even with Accelerator's help they were mostly at a stall
Where would you place her?
Lower her to a little above Ollerus level
I never really understood why the special tier exists
>bobobo in special tier
i like it
Are they placed in some kind of order or something? Like are they more powerful the higher up they are placed or something?
Alright, how's that?
Special tiers are powers who are either vague or special depending of the circumstances or the uses of their power.
Did /m/ hijack this chart? Also Sakura is way too damn high.
>Turn A higher than Lilith
That's a bit of a stretch even with the Moonlight Butterfly. I also doubt it could beat Ultraman Joneus in a fight.
Seems better. I'd maybe change Accelerator a bit but whenever he awakens his power level goes all over the place so it's hard to pin down, he seems alright there
You need to label your X and Y axes.
Also, I still don't understand why the Witches from Umineko are that high.
Ah, fuck me.
I placed Sakura lower but it didn't save.
How's this for Sakura?
A lot of people wanted more mechs and I added a bunch of lower tier to the list.
>saves humanity on a regular basis
>Enemy of all who live
>Lord of Nightmares not on the top of chart
>Tenchi near the top
Special tier is a mess.
Y is power
There is no X.
The roof is godhood.
Nono is not on the same level as Ideon. At best she's planetary while Ideon's galactic.
Goku could beat up anyone on that list just saiyan.
He wouldn't though, he's too nice.
Isn't there a certain disconnect in Special tier in that Akuma Homura 'technically' defeated Godoka?
>How's this for Sakura?
Needs Genesic GaoGaiGar and it'll be perfect.
Aren't Tenchi and Demonbane both gods?
Shouldn't demonbane be higher since elder god > regular god?
Or is Tenchi an super elder god +1?
I placed her in the Special tier to shut up every fucking madokfag who wants her at the top of the list.
Besides, Homura only took part of Godoka's power which was only related to knowing Madoka's identity. Heck, the movie shows that if Madoka wakes up, Homura is powerless.
And Homura's power only relate in effect to a law, like Godoka, concerining people who remember Madoka and nothing else.
The Universe simply rebooted itself after Homura changed that and nothing else. She doesn't have godhood power.
I also put them in opposites for symbolic reasons because I'm bored.
Alright, placed lower, is it fine?
you done goofed
Is Shichika really that high and is Kakine really that low?
goku shouldn't even be on this list. Homura, the lowest on the chart, could kill him just by freezing time and dissecting him one strand of flesh at a time.
Homura can't alter anything while time is frozen, its why she uses delayed weapons.
>Implying she could harm goku with anything she can find anyway
Tenchi is existence itself.
Demonbane is fucking everything.
I can't believe I forgot him.
Gimme a minute.
Same level as Tetsuo, right?
Saiyan God > bullet.
This isn't just a who can beat who list either but how much destruction one can cause as well as how powerful one is.
This seems like a pretty acceptable chart actually.
God form Goku isn't effected by attacks of mortals anon.
couldn't even beat up Sakura
Goku instantly transmits from the afterlife and fires an energy blast from 5 million miles away.
Elder God Demonbane should just barely inch out Tenchi.
While they both control reality warping, time warping, multiversal level power, EGD existing outside of reality and causation gives Daijiji and Al the edge in terms of ability.
He's not that high. He's around Homu's level.
Also, why are there two Yuusha's at the bottom?
Um, yes she can, did you even watch the show? She can alter anything normally as long as she's touching it, or else she wouldn't even be able to fire guns. All she would need to do is find some kind of corrosive and pour it down Goku's throat, chop off his legs and arms with a chainsaw, etc...
Kami Tenchi higher than Demonbane, Yami Eve, Myuughi or Narukana? Seriously?
Tenchi Muyo setting is just a single universe with 12 dimensions. It's not even a real multiverse. Nozomu would fucking murder him with one attack. Eve would vaporize him with a wink.
Obito Uchiha should be a little higher. A little below Kiss Shot.
The reason it's like this because if an omnipotent being can be defeated it is not truly omnipotent
>Tenchi is existence itself.
>Demonbane is fucking everything.
Ah, well that makes sense.
You realize Goku by the end of the series has near planet busting durability. Call me when Homu has a nuke that can destroy the planet.
Now stop trolling faggot.
unless I missed her every time I looked, you have Shichika listed but not Nanami
this is for
Doesn't really matter how much he can blow up when he can't manipulate time.
Well if we frame Tenchi in terms of the Nitro+verse he would be Azthoth, the true face of the universe. The reason why EGD should be higher is because it in prisoners the universe within a stick that is the universe, than crafted the multiverse while existing outside of everything.
Technically Tenchi/Azthoth is everything so it is more powerful, but EGD shapes that power anyway it wants.
I'm not saying anything about how much he can blow up. I'm saying it's going to take an explosion powerful enough to destroy a planet to kill Goku.
It's missing Dekomori
I didn't know his god form was immune from mortal attacks, sorry.
Need to add her too, give me a minute.
What color should she have?
Fuck, forgot to remove one.
Going to add extra characters, give me a minute.
Shouldn't Shinji from Eva be included? Even if everyone hates him, by the end of 2.22 and beginning of 3.0 he is a weapon user and divine being/reality warper.
This seems a lot worse than the earlier chart.
Is this Ryner from the beginning of the story or later in the novels?
He doesn't have those powers. He just fucks with things that do have that power.
Why is Pucci a magic user?
sorry to go off-topic, but on that note should I go back and finish Needless? Because someone on /a/ recommended it strongly but all of the episode I watched felt completely hollow and soulless, not to mention filled with show-stopping levels of fanservice.
I dropped it around when they first go to Simeon; does it improve around then or if I didn't like the first part will I probably hate the second?
Whichever he is at his strongest.
Actually the Yuusha you deleted was the one you should've kept. He's stronger than an Eva unit.
You should replace s2 engine unit 1 with Pseudo-Evolved Unit 1 and place it just below kiss-shot.
Read the manga.
Tenchi can be defeated psychologically. Tenchi in Tokyo's whole premise is just that. Demonbane can't really be defeated because it is the idea that justice always wins. All of Demonbane's powers and abilities are just tools that are used to fulfill that manifestation.
Seriously once you break causality it doesn't matter what you actually do since 1+1 doesn't nessicarily equal 2
add this guy to special tier
>Tenchi in Tokyo
That's not canon at all.
Same for DIO, isn't stand power technically soul powers?
Special tier is full enough as it is.
Instead of bitching about EGD might as well put War God Demonbane on there, it's more qualifiable.
Multiuniversal+ destructive ability
Time control, even if it's completely destroyed it just revives itself from 5 minutes ago
Constantly grows in size, became so big that it collapsed the universe it was in.
Defeated by Nyarlathotep who rewound back time for the entire multiverse and killed the pilot as a kid.
Void Shiki could beat demon bane be removing his concept from the origin of existence.
Then what about Eva 01, since it does hold that power?
>ZeedMillenniumon on the list
This pleases me. even though I think he should be higher
Stop it. You aren't done until you remake it in .png at least. This isn't 1998.
What happened to the whole light weight chart today, medium tomorrow thing?
nvm didn't notice it was already up
Demonbane is like the equivalent to Akasha in it's own series. To attempt to kill Demonbane would be to kill itself.
Tenchi is the omnipotent being of a tiny shithole. Just 12 universes that are not even real standalone universes.
He's nothing. People are fanwanking him because he's baby's first broken character.
around accelerator level then
No she can't, Void doesn't work like that.
Golgo is a garystu, not special.
I rarely check these threads, but when did special tier get so bloated? Some of them don't even really make sense in special tier.
>Izayoi as strong if not stronger than Momoyo
Ehhhh. I don't know, maybe. I wouldn't say so
Have Tohno Shiki in Special Specialist Tier.
That's exactly how it works. She is self-aware Akasha with the ability to manipulate, remove, and rewrite concepts. Hence her claim that she can "rewrite the laws of particles too miniscule to be seen" and "unwind evolution and the origin of this planet".
OP, Shichika should be around Homu's level. Honestly, I'd take him out. He really serves no purpose as we get the idea with Homu being at the bottom. No need to bloat up this chart even further.
Demonbane exists outside of the system.
Elder God Demonbane is a Holy Being/Demon Being Soul user as well as a Magic User in addition to being a reality warper and weapon user.
The majority of Demonbane's attacks are magical, and Al's nature is of a demonic book, and Daijiji fuels all the attacks through his soul. The Demonbane it's self is a Holy construct.
One Shiki is enough. No need to throw in the inferior MEoDP user.
I hate to admit it, but this is a damned good list
Where would Guts fit on here?
She is the 3rd strongest TM excluding servants. according to Word of God.
Homu being so low doesn't even make sense.
She can just stop time and kill many of the characters higher than her.
How about we put him in special tier
That quote doesn't make any sense unless we assume that Nasu meant that in terms of Void's fighting capability. This chart is about power, not who would win a fight.
Wouldn't even rank since the weakest person on the list Homura could beat him with ease.
Why have Kouga on there instead of Seiya?
Who gives a flying fuck about Kouga?
Demonbane is Akasha, you don't get the concept of Demonbane at all it seems.
That's rather complicated as it requires prep like her getting bombs/nukes and stuff.
She's barely a superhuman.
No. Seriously, try to justify it.
should just swap shichika with homu tbh.
Demonbanes is not a user of anything because he's just a goddamn weapon.
He's Al Azif's summon robot, protector and servant. If anything she should be on the list in his place.
But he's not. He's superhuman and that's it. Can't even destroy a building. He fucked one up but didn't destroy it.
Why the fuck is Hibiki so high, there are people who can destroy planets lower than her
I love how OP listens to any opinion thrown at him without considering any integrity whatsoever
We already had this Exact discussion in the last 2 threads. Enough about Void Shiki.
Why is momoyo higher than homura?
Fuck. Homu can stop time.
All you're really saying is "no it doesn't work like that" without explaining why. If you're saying that demonbane is Akasha than that means the two characters aren't comparable as they contradict one another.
Tohno Shiki's MEoDP does not have an age limit. Ryougi's MEoDP has an age limitation that prevents her from immediately seeing the lines of something that is merely 300 years old. Tohno can see the lines of a planet that is billions of years old.
Tohno Shiki's MEoDP does not have a physical object limitation.
Ryougi's MEoDP is limited that she can be sealed inside a cement cage.
Ryougi's is better with concepts, but you can trap her in a physical jail.
Outside of Medaka I do not see any major mistakes.
Her ability is pretty well defined, so why the special area?
She has her brainbursting violet magic missile.
More than enough to kill most people up to Izzard.
Enough About Demonbane and Void Shiki. Seriously.
>No Bittenfeld; penetrator of traps
do you have a source for this? Cause that's not how I understood it at all.
Alright, in Demonbane-verse Yog-Sothoth is akin to Akasha. Aka, it's everything. Demonbane draws its power from Yog-Sothoth.
Get it now?
EGD exists outside of reality and causation does not apply to it.
You can't actually do anything to EGD because any action you take against it, i.e. removing it conceptually, doesn't actually result in that.
Look at it this way. In common usage, causality is also the relation between a set of factors (causes) and a phenomenon (the effect). Anything that affects an effect is a factor of that effect. A direct factor is a factor that affects an effect directly, that is, without any intervening factors. (Intervening factors are sometimes called "intermediate factors".) The connection between a cause(s) and an effect in this way can also be referred to as a causal nexus. With EDG the causal nexus doesn't actually exist.
>jumps like 200m, flies around, survives a hit from a skyscraper
And it doesn't even matter since she can freeze time in less than 0.5 second and then just walk to the enemy and shoot him in the head.
>at will motherfucking time stop
No. No, not at all.
I think special
being able to do anything just by seeing it done once. from weapon techniques to altering her body
Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai novels. The latter was Touko telling Araya his mistake about sealing Ryougi in a magic jail rather than a physical one.
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I have no choice.
She can stop time and nothing else.
She can only stop time to increase attacks.
Because of people bitching if she was higher or lower than Goku and visa versa.
So I said fuck it and placed her there and it seemed like the right idea.
I added a bunch of the whole light weight into this chart, removing the obvious low contender.
He's hidden in the special tier, with his white ships.
Sec, lemmy change him for soul power.
>not understanding how the chart works.
The only chart so far to accurately rate Sakura's power. I assume whoever made this actually watched the series or read the manga instead of thinking cute little girl = weakling.
Demonbane maybe, but not the Elder God. The Elder Gods represent a trinity, with Demonbane functioning as the body, Dajuji as the mind, and Al as the soul.
Demonbane draws it's power from Al Azif.
He gives no fuck about Yog-kun. It exists beyond the system. It's a weapon specifically created to kill an omnipotent being.
Maybe you should had koto from kyousugiga, shes pretty powerful
Not that guy but you clearly didn't read Tsukihime or any of the follow ups.
Nanaya Shiki can see the death in all things. Ryougi can only see the death in "living" things.
Did you ever see Ryougi Shiki cut down a bridge or part of a building?
FUCK, SECOND FUCKING TIME.
I swear to fucking god this shit is pissing me off.
Anyways, added Akira and changed Yuusha.
Need to pick up the pace and add Geogaigar.
Does anyone have a good image?
The Void Shiki in the chart isn't even an MEoDP user. She's just a reality warper that works in all types of combat. She shouldn't actually be in Special tier. Tohno Shiki makes more sense in Special tier because he actually is works in special cases. Which is what that tier is for when it first showed up.
Seriously like the redo of the chart. Good job, you faggot.
Anyone want to explain why Dio Brando is higher than Sakyua and Reimu?
Dio can only stop time for 5 sec, at the very best, dies in sunlight, and loses to conventional weaponry/fists.
Sakuya's time-stopping ability is never specified, but given that in the Grimore of Marissa, she's depicted as placing all the knives herself, it clearly lasts much longer, and she isn't utterly destroyed by sunlight.
Reimu, on the other hand, is just pure condensed bullshit. She abuses her power to float to the point that she literally flies away from reality, becoming effectively untouchable.
In fact, why is Dio so high up in the first place? The other two vampires placed underneath him clearly outclass him in terms of ability, with Kisshot able to jump continents and basically end the world in a couple of days, and Arc being an even bigger load of bullshit.
You forgot the most broken ass character in existence bro
Nothing ever ends, anon.
That's not Akira, you know.
You still need to replace unit 1 with s2 engine to unit 1 pseudo evolved. S2 Engine isn't as powerful as it still has a limited AT field.
I was thinking as a Vampire he shouldn't be higher than Alucard.
"Living" is solely reliant on her perception of whatever it is she's going to kill.
But then where would she place in the actual combat tiers?
No it isn't at all. Do you even Demonbane?
Yog is just the keeper of the gate. Azthoth is all probability. They call Azthoth chaos because it is everything simultaneously with no structure or purpose. The Elder Gods took probability and imprisoned it within the shinning trapozehedron, than shaped probability into reality. Reality is called Azthoth's dream. The Elder Gods exist outside of probability, and we're thus able to manipulate it. You can't effect the Elder Gods because they don't exist within the functions of probability.
Why is Saitama in special tier?
His magic is the power of retardation
Jesus fuck stop putting sailor moon above arceus, what the fuck is wrong with you.
Below Arcueid of course.
He blew up a solar system, that's not galactic.
Below Arcueid Brunestud
Nothing like that is ever stated.
Demonbane runs on Al Azif's mana.
She was a grimoire with infinite mana and knowledge of all spell in existence already making him powerful as fuck. Then she becomes an Elder God making her mana divine. That powered up Demonbane to god status.
I read Tsukihime. Nanaya's eyes can see the death in all things because he sees the concept of their potential for death in the root and materializes it when he cuts it. Ryougi's eyes see the conceptualization of the object itself in the root, and destroys the object's life when she cuts that conceptualization, hence I guess why she only works with things she can acknowledge as being "alive" insofar as the object interacts with its surroundings.
If you have the time I'd suggest spacing out from the middle to the bottom. Everything is so cluttered. Just give them some room to breathe and it'd make the chart much easier to read.
That's the running Joke anon.
I'm pretty sure Myuugi is stronger than Tenchi, if only because in the whole series she's the strongest, which is counting all universes in the series.
Added a few mecha anime stuff. I so wanted to add Gallia from Xabungle at the bottom, but no good pic came up.
So Tohno Shiki in Special Tier while Ryougi Shiki is right below Arcueid? How low exactly?
Is this the troll chart?
Sakura is still too low. By the end of the series she would literally have no problem beating STTGL. She should be up there next to all the other realty-warpers.
quoting for emphasis
>unit 0-1 literally survives third impact and kills lilith
>lilith (third impact) is ranked higher
Is there like 2-3 people posting charts at any given time?
She's in a completely different league.
But try to explain that to Tenchifags.
If you use your brain for a min bro, you'd realize Lillith is shit tier
Ryougi should be below Arc enough that it is noticeable.
It's not a matter of who is stronger but more destructive capacity.
Sounds like the strongest power of all.
Emperor Zule needs the Esper color in his bar. Other than that everything checks out.
Maybe a level below?
I agree, besides dio would get wrecked in a fight with alucard
EoE is not about power levels.
Did you watch the movie? Rei allowed herself to die because of Shinji's decision.
Does nobody else actually know how Demonbane works? Demonbane is powered by the Cor Linex which is the power of an infinite amount of suns. All Al does is shape soul power into magic power under Dajuji's will.
Seriously I spent six hours the other week ago explaining the details of Demonbane and it's universe to anon, and one anon was kind enough to make a pic that broke down my tl;dr in to a simple easy to read graphic. Did anyone save it?
Put her next to Izzard.
Void Shiki doesn't even fight; she belongs in special tier because her powers are beyond the ability of her physical body and mind to be useful in a fight.
Anon, that's not Akira (pic related)
Why is Shichika so high up?
I mean, yeah, he's a top tier martial artist, and kind of bullshit within his own universe, but he's still only human, and would get wrecked by some of the people below him, particularly time stoppers (Esdese and Homura) or magic users (Yuusha, Sakura) .
>in his bar as well
Should have been more specific.
As someone who never watch Sailor Moon, what exactly did Sailor Moon d that places her so high up in the tiers as a reality warper that she outstrips shit like the Anti-Spiral
Next to Izzard sounds about right.
Makes sense. I guess that's what I get for avoiding these threads.
Now I wonder how often you guys get other anons doing the same thing.
The thing about her is that she's a literal destroyer and conqueror of universes with minions who are much weaker, but who can just as easily destroy worlds and universes. She's strong enough that even in a coma, none of her minions can kill her. It's a huge power difference.
Dio should be around the same level as kisshot.
Even with all his hax and faster than light reflexes he can't get past characters with island level durability.
Void Shiki's powers are reality warping, which is basically the same powers that a lot of everyone else has in the regular combat chart. Tohno Shiki should be the one on the special chart because he really is the one who has the "special" roll of the dice ability that can work on some opponents while not on others.
Ryougi's reality warping works on anything which makes it stupid for Ryougi to even be on Special Tier, when she's just the same as the other reality warpers in the chart..
We've all seen the pasta.
Fuck. I'm an idiot, give me a second.
Nice, thank you.
Once I have enough time, I'll add your additions.
Good idea, I'll do that next.
The issue was that if I make it bigger, the image becomes smaller when you open it from a thumbnail.
It is, Bittenfeld is so retarded he's unstoppable
He's the unstoppable force, that's retarded and runs into the immovable object
She should be lower.
Sailor Saturn should be in her place. She can destroy the universe with one swing of her glaive.
Enrico Pucci is also a stand user so should be soul powers too.
Looking good so far.
Sailor moon becomes a god and goes to the future to fight evil gods and shit.
I get the feeling that Koro-sensei is stronger than Dio too, namely because Koro can literally one shot planets. I don't think Dio can do that. Not only that, but he's resistant to pretty much everything except for a special material that he gave to the government.
While I agree with your points, do the chartmakers even have a picture of Tohno Shiki?
>I just want to hold your hand one more time
The details of Void's reality warping powers are different from those of the other reality warpers. She is the origin of existence given self-awareness, which means she supersedes all reality warping that affects existence by interacting with existence, rather than the origin of existence.
>Once I have enough time, I'll add your additions.
Thank you good sir.
Still waiting on that Shichika edit. Either take him out or put him below Homura.
or by ANYONE ON THAT LIST. They guy is lower than shit tier according to ANY of this list and shouldnt even register.
When are you gonna put Power Man at the top of the list so that we have less people throwing shit about WHO IS DA STRONGEST OMNIPOTENT
I would say koto is either half divine half soul power or straight full divine
Would you consider buddha a divinity?
>Highest person is Tenchi Miaaki, above Demonbane, Featherine, LoN, etc
I admit I haven't watched his series but he's basically God? What puts him above the other literal-God Tier characters?
Is being so retarded people underestimate you a legitimate power?
I think Arceus needs to be higher. It is literally the god of the universe, and it can't die, only faint. It's only weakness would probably that it can be put into a Pokeball, but that's pretty much it.
No, because then someone will post that edit with Shiki killing him, and we'll be right back to where we started.
>We've all seen the pasta.
I haven't. Could someone post it?
In our hearts. ;-;7
>Demonbane is powered by the Cor Linex which is the power of an infinite amount of suns
Wasn't that before encountering the Elder Sign?
...That sounds disturbingly similar to Azathoth.
Still not that funny.
It is the god of pokemon, and of just 1 universe, and it can be restrained.
It is just fine where it is.
>only level 80
She is still a reality warper. The same as every other reality warper in the chart. Also, lower than Arcueid. That makes it stupid for her to be in the special tier, when she's the same as everyone else and even ranked lower than another Nasuverse reality warper in Arcueid. Tohno Shiki is the one who actually works for the Special Tier because he can easily kill DAA but not function as well against Servants with no corporeal bodies. An actual MEoDP user.
Anyone else think Dio is a little too high?
Add Ilias to the list. She is the primordial embodiment of holy energy and co-creator of the material world (divine being). Not holy energy itself, so I'd put her somewhere above Arcuied.
I just explained to you why she ISN'T the same as every reality warper. And I've already explained why placing her below Arcueid instead of in special tier doesn't make sense in the context of this chart: the Nasu quote was about fighting capability, not raw power.
Arceus wasn't even all that impressive in his own movie. He shouldn't be that high in the first place.
>that far down
It's like you've never read Psyren.
His power is to home in and completely destroy any special power and anything in its way with a black formless mass.
He's a full body Imagine Breaker without all the world altering BS and with actual offensive capabilities.
Melchsee shits on a lot of the guys in the higher tiers.
Read the thread.
At least ctrl+f.
Where is shaggy
He should be mid - tier
>but he's basically God?
>What puts him above the other literal-God Tier characters?
Fanwank. Going by the feats he's nothing compared to Demonbane, Aurora or Myuugi.
spoiler]N-nippon Banzai ;_;[/spoiler:lit]
There's some edit of the powerman comic that adds an extra line at the end with Shiki cutting him into pieces made by some assmad TMfag.
Not in coma. She's just sleeping.
And she woke up in the latest Seinarukana extra.
I'd call being put in a pokeball being restrained.
Arceus's main limitation power wise is that it can, so far as we've, only create things, whereas other characters above it can do things like radically alter the nature of reality in addition to creating.
I thought as much, from what I found reading about him he's on par with the Lord of Nightmares at best
Non-canon fanfiction, of course.
Powerman's power is, canonically, to be more powerful than anything else, thus, ending all nerd arguments about who is the strongest character ever.
That's exactly what i said?
What doesn't make sense? She could beat the shit out of Izzard in terms of combat and she would still be below Arcueid, a superior reality warper with better fighting capability.
Of course, but people don't get that, and
Fuck it, put Void Shiki at the top of the chart outside of special tier. If this is a power chart and not a "who would win a fight chart" she should be at the top.
Not exactly an intimidating list, is it.
No she isn't, read the thread ffs
>Dio got higher
>Tenchi still highest
Do you mean no she shouldn't? I've been in the thread the entire time and just reached that conclusion.
It was a pretty long ass sleep. I'd say it's pretty close to a coma. Is Xuse ever planning on making a third game or are they just twiddling their thumb?
She is weaker than Arcueid even as a reality warper.
Shit, I read "can't". My eyes are goin on me.
Please, if you think she can beat the likes of Demonbane, Seinarukana, or Yamibou you are delusional.
She is below Arcueid. According to Word of God. she can't be at the top. even with her bullshit Reality warping
Not even close. Marble Phantasm gives Arcueid the ability to manipulate natural law: Void Shiki is everything, including laws natural and unnatural, given consciousness and agency.
>Power is to kill anything by cutting them
So she has a worse version of the Shinigami's ability, and unlike them can die?
There are multiple characters at the top that are functionally Deathless in any case
She's below Arcueid in a fight, not in abilities. Word of god doesn't specify which, but it only makes sense to assume the latter given the stated abilities of both characters.
Arceuid would kill her faster than she could react. and this isn't even taking into account Type-earth abilities.
Company split in two and they were arguing over the rights to the franchise.
But since they made new Seinarukana material and released a special edition recently 3rd game is quite possible.
She is a reality warper, yes, but so is Arcueid, and Nasu ranks her below Arcueid. So if you place her outside Special Tier, she should be below Arcueid. Replace her position with Tohno Shiki in Special Tier, place her next to Izzard.
She is in the special tier or she is below Arc. Pick one.
Arc needs to be higher. Nasu stated a de-powered form of her (supported by a dying Gaia) is on the same level as the likes of CCC top tiers, who are FTL and casual planet busters.
If powerscaling Arc's speed and physical stats to Servants is accepted due to Word of God, you cannot ignore this.
Requesting the addition of Geperuniti from Macross 7, in the series his crew was able to wipe out most of the universe's life forms, individually can take on planet busting star fleets, and Gep himself is capable of destroying a galaxy. Somewhere between Arceus and Ideon would be accurate.
How come Arceus is above guys like STTGL and Ideon?
It's just a damn pokemon.
Also brb adding SSJ4 goku and Gunbuster
Nasu has said that Ryougi embellished her own powers (because of kek poetry), and that is why she is lower than Arcueid, but higher than Primal Demons.
Lots of characters could kill her; none are more powerful. So if this chart is purely about the breadth of abilities (power) a character has she should be at the top. Otherwise she should stay in special.
>to be more powerful than anything else
Becasue no one has ever thought about that before.
It wasn't in a fight. It was a rank of the three most powerful beings in Nasuverse, barring Servants and Types.
Okay this chart is pure power, so why is Tenchi higher than Demonbane? Demonbane's second weakest form, Mars Demonbane destroyed the universe on accident because it wasn't paying attention. It's highest form imprisioned the source of everything, made the universe, uses the imprisioned essence of literally every possibily as a stick to hit shit with, broke causality, exists outside of everything and so is not bound by any rules other than what it chooses to use at any given moment, exists everywhere always simultaneously, and is basically the will of a dude fucking a loli forever.
>We've all seen the pasta.
No idea what you're talking about. She IS a reality warper. Have you not seen or read the series?
I take this argument back: Void Shiki is still limited by her body and mind, which I guess is why she should stay in special. Her powers are too hypothetical.
I'll add her too.
Placed him lower.
I'm touching Tenchi for shit.
She's in special tier, I'm not touching her and she's always been there.
Hense the +-~++
Shit never get finalized.
I feel like Izayoi should be a bit higher up. His power is literally the destruction of other powers. I would argue that he could stand par with at least Ryner Lute.
Now I want to see those two fight. The man who destroys powers and the man who copies powers.
Well then word of god directly contradicts the stated abilities of Void and Arc in their respective universes.
Ignoring the fact that you're doing it on purpose why is he on the same level as Tetsuo, Akira had all of the same power plus leagues more.
>limited by body and mind
Motherfucking Izzard is outside Special Tier
Put Izzard in Special Tier then.
Momoyo ought to be way higher. She is a planet buster.
I swear there most be two of you doing these. Both Dio Brando AND Enrico Pucci use soul powers.
Where's Tohno Shiki? You know, the ACTUAL MEoDP user.
Limited in the sense that wielding them isn't practical, but possible.
Power Rankings for TM
He can be weakened from mental interference remember.
I fixed your shitty list OP
>she's always been there.
Just because she's always been there doesn't mean it's right.
>Bringing TM into this shit
Holy fuck please no.
Powerman could still beat that.
TM has been here the entire time, have you not been readin the thread?
Tohno's eyes aren't nearly as powerful as Ryougi's. Tohno sees the potentiality for death, Ryougi sees the object's conceptual origin.
10/10 best chart so far.
You forgot john cena.
This is where Sakura belongs. Below Sailor Moon, yes, but still more powerful than ost of the people on that chart.
I feel like you're deliberately messing with this chart, but Dio Brando is way too fucking high.
He can stop time for like five seconds, has super strength, and nearly created an army of zombies. Awesome. He's higher than Akira, Rei Ayanami, and Reimu Hakurei.
Jesus Yamato > Kirito
>He can be weakened from mental interference remember.
And? Touma Kamijou can be weakened by a lot of things and he's in Special.
That doesn't even make rational sense.
The logic you guys have in placing Ryougi in Special while Izzard is in normal tier makes no sense.
Not this is my kinda list!
Honestly Tenchi and the Lord of Nightmares should basically be in their own tier, along with all the other omnipotent, all knowing Azthoth-types that you can't really compare due to them being omnipotent and all knowing.
Put Levi at the very top.
Because it's funny to place them on the same level. I know he should go higher but they should be screaming at each other equally.
I also don't know how high to put either of them.
Shit, it got lost when I added the one from the mecha, give me a sec.
hahaha you fucking kidding me with that "Akira" picture...fuck you OP
go be a fagget elsewhere with Kenshiro being so high regardless of his EXPLODING...oh shit im dead...carry on
And her color bar should be the same as Sailor Moons. Obviously the person who made these knows nothing about CCS. Some of her reality warping abilities include stopping time and erasing things from existence.
What the fuck, is there something I'm missing from the novels? Why is she placed so high.
I can dig it
Izzard's reality warping is completely effected by his mental state, did you understand what Touma did to beat him right?
Tohno Shiki's MEoDP does not have an age limit. Ryougi's MEoDP has an age limitation that prevents her from immediately seeing the lines of something that is merely 300 years old. Tohno can see the lines of a planet that is billions of years old.
Tohno Shiki's MEoDP does not have a physical object limitation.
Ryougi's MEoDP is limited that she can be sealed inside a cement cage.
Ryougi's is better with concepts, but you can trap her in a physical jail.
That, and by canon, Tohno Shiki is physically stronger than Ryougi. His own dad almost killed someone as strong as Servants. And Ryougi isn't even Servant-class.
>A New Challenger Appears
Did I See Two Ideon there ?
And Touma's ability to fight can be affected by his mental state as well, he lost his fucking memories by a scale landing on his head.
What about Eucliwood?
Reality Warper / Magic User. Also a weapon user, but not as predominant as the first 2.
Can someone post the "Lightweight" version of the list?
AM I the only one who thinks that Father should be higher up on the list?
He should be a substantial amount stronger than Anderson.
>Notable OBD Losses:
>- Ryougi Shiki (Kara no Kyoukai)
Tohno's eyes do not see death. What it sees is the fated destruction of everything. Cutting the line doesn't kill something, cutting the line activates the fated destruction to occur now instead of in the future.
Why don't people read Tsukihime before you talk about it?
But we aren't talking about Touma. we are talking about Izzard. he doesn't belong in special.
Why is Winfield so high? It's true that his boxing skills are god tier, but there's no way he would be a match for people like Akira or even Saber.
Incorrent Ryogi have far better eyes than Nanaya, and she doesn't have Nanaya draw back of have to understand the death of things.
Does Aji Tae belong on this list? He can do all kinds of crazy shit but has the huge drawback of being unable to stick around if his human body is destroyed.
But the very same reason why you put Ryougi in special (limitations of the body and mind) is the very reason Izzard should also be in special. Either Izzard goes in Special, or Ryougi leaves Special.
Not to mention that some of her power's haven't even developed yet by the end of the manga. One of them being knowing everything.
She's stronger than Clow Reed, who is probably the strongest character in CLAMP.
Can we add Doraemon to the tier?
Can stop time, time travel, switch to another universe with his what if telephone box, change the rule of the world, created more than one civilization, etc.
Sakura's too low. She should be above STTGL at least. She could
You can trap Ryougi in a solid cage
Ryougi takes time before she can kill old things
Tohno has no such weaknesses. Even then, this Ryougi is more Void than an MEoDP user.
Yes. Powerman's Power is beating Characters. His power is beyond any sort of wall or multiverse or concept. The English language does not contain words to describe powerman's power level; like 'multiversal' or 'omnipotent', because his power is beyond the ability to accurately describe beyond saying that he is more powerful than a given reference point (which would be any given reference point, since, by his very nature, he cannot be less powerful than anything).
Added Lord Geperuniti
Added SSj4 Gogeta and Vegito
Moved Arceuid higher, Arceus lower
brb adding Gunbuster,
Still didn't fix Sakura
No. and nothing you say will change the positioning. also I'm not the OP
Can't Doraemon just do whatever the fuck it wants?
Also, Bills is much stronger than either of them.
If you were to add those two, they'd be just barely higher than Goku.
Then that just proves this chart is complete bullshit. If you don't use the same logic in placing characters, then what's the use?
Where does she rank on the list? Gotta be at least above Tetsuo.
I just noticed the disturbing lack of Real God Inferno Cop in this tier list.
Imagine breaker should probably be Special/Divine
I loved Katanagatari, but Shichika isn't THAT strong.
What's the deal?
I started fixing the top of the list for you
Where would he be?
God fucking damn it, I'm doing shitty today for some fucking reason.
Placed him a bit higher than Ideon.
I know but people bitched about her being too high and shit but fuck it, I'll put her back where she was.
It's pointless to add SSJ4 since you have Saiyan God + Bill on there.
Oh, good addition.
I'll add her.
Where would she be placed?
OP go be a faggot elsewhere
I'm convinced you're fucking with me by constantly switching Dio and Pucci having soul powers instead of both of them having soul powers.
Stop being dumb.
I'd say just below Duradigdu. She's planet-destroying powerful, and that's about how high the tier list goes without going into universe and multiverse-destroying threats.
what's the difference between made in heaven and gold experience requiem? since they're both stands and all that
Did you even read my post? You just reworded what I said. "Potentiality for death".
SSJ4 gogeta and vegito.
Also fixed a couple of things, Sakura and Demonbane and Getter Emperor
I rather think it's just because they're afraid of having Tohno in the chart. He's too powerful.
Please leave. Having one dumbfuck do this shit is enough. Having a second one that's twice as stupid is terrible.
Abilities and Equipments
Reality Warping: Eucliwood's primary ability is the power to tamper the string of fate and alter reality. It has been shown that whatever that she says can become reality, with no certain limits to her powers except for Eucliwood's resistance to the side effects of using her powers. Applications of her reality warping powers are as follows:
Resurrection: Although not directly seen, she has shown powers of resurrection, as she was able to revive Ayumu and the King of the Night from the dead. It is unknown if there are any restrictions or limits to this ability.
Death Affliction: By saying the word "die", Eucliwood is able to kill a person in an instant. In Kyoko's case, she was able to exhaust the lives acquired by the rogue Masou-Shoujo, whose ability steals the life of others in order to gain a measure of immortality. However, using this power puts an immense strain in Eucliwood's part, causing her to experiences intense pain in her head.
Healing: It has been shown that she has the ability to heal the wounds of others, but at as a side-effect she suffers pain equal to the amount of the damage she healed from that person. In a sense, the wound or damage is transfered to her.
Masou-Shoujo Transformation: During her battle against Kyoko (season 1) and the alternative Ayumu (season 2), she uses Mystletainn to transform into a Masou-Shoujo. Whether this proves that she has the necessary magic to be called a Masou-Shoujo is unknown.
Scythe: During a brief battle with the King of the Night, she wields a large scythe. It is usually the same pen she uses to 'speak.'
Armor and Gauntlets: Eu's armor and gauntlets are used to suppress her powers. There are instances (although these are few and far in between) where she has taken off the armor. It is unknown what amount of damage she could deal if she fought without them on.
Why are there two guys doing this?
Then just put him on the special tier or something.
Also, can we just enlarge the chart area? this chart has become too crowded
MachoMan Randy Savage and The Iron Sheik > John Shit Show Cena
Not everything dies. Everything will inevitably be destroyed. There's the difference. Both of their eyes are connected to the Origin, just in different ways. And they both have their pros and cons.
Why? He also has weaknesses.
Reading this is fucking impossible, there's way too many characters involved
There should at least be visible "tiers" dividing it
I don't understand how people hold the belief that Tohno's eyes are more powerful than Ryougi's. Ryougi's eyes are a channel into Akasha itself, Tohno's only see the concept of inherent death within the root when he sees a line on an object.
Ryougi destroys concepts, Tohno physically manifests latent conceptual death.
So far Eucliwood only has two known weaknesses
Fruit Rinds: Eucliwood was peeling oranges/tangerines and ate some, however she starts feeling very sick so Ayumu calls Shimomura who happens to be a fellow underworlder Shimomura being the person he is begins making Ayumu look stupid at first but only to see how far he would go for her. Shimomura then explains that fruit rinds happen to be highly posinous to underworlders such as Eucliwood and Shimomura
Her own power:The reason Eucliwood's power is her own weakness is because if she were to write die while using her reality bending powers, it'd give her a massive headache, even if she is to talk it causes immense pain to her self. Also around the first season she is able to heal Ayumu but as a result she feels the pain he did.
You don't understand bro.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for Cena to lose in a wwe ring. It defies all logic and reason and universal truths.
Base on Destructive powa, serry bra
There was one but it was shit and made it complicated some how.
Keep it simple stupid.
Right, I shouldn't have used death. The point is that Tohno sees the latent destruction of an object and manifests that concept when he cuts a line.
>people bitched about her being too high
They were probably just mad that a cute little girl is canonically more powerful than their favorite badass mo-fo.
Because they are. Both of their eyes are connected to Akasha. To the Origin. Ryougi just connected to it differently. And that still doesn't change the fact that her eyes have its own limitations.
What about Cena vs Undertaker in Wrestlemania?
>There are people who actually think Tenchi is stronger than Demonbane when Demonbane eats 'multiversal creators' and 'embodied concepts' for breakfast before and after and during beating them with his multi-dimensional stick of 'fuck you' which he then absorbs them into
Because people want their input and done shit their way which is fucking annoying.
I'll do that once this thread dies because it'll take forever to make it bigger and then move everyone respectively.
>caring about the top level tier
Just put Shiki in the damn chart to shut this shit up. Fucking shitcunts.
>still arguing "my god character is stronger than your god character"
Ageha needs to go higher.
Fucker runs around wielding a warping and adaptable black hole on top of his decent physical abilities.
Ryougi is connected to it in that she's carrying it around within herself, which gives her the ability to manipulate it on a fundamental level. Tohno only sees a specific aspect of it: the latent destruction of objects.
Okay who is this Myuugi and why is she apparently the strongest character Japan has ever shitted out?
Akira literally initiated World War III, he doesn't deserve to be under the blond, androgynous vampire who can stop time for a few seconds.
That's cool and all but how much damage can she do?
Cena wins by little kids screaming
Has some kind of ring that allows her to rape EVERYTHING.
>mfw Superman dwarfs everyone on this list
Seems to be missing Daitarn 3 from >>100322546 but otherwise everything checks out.
And that comes back to the point that Ryougi is a reality warper on the same level as Izzard, and she's also limited just like Izzard by her body and mind. Tohno is the actual Special Tier, because he's the real MEoDP user.
>tfw The Mask
Well, Winfield can fight in equal terms with sorcerers imbued with the power of the lovecraftian lore with only his fists, however, his fists are his only weapon and he doesn't have any special magic to back it up. So he's definitely under Kenshiro who can also use Chi aside from his also marvelous hand-to-hand combat. If it were me and I had to be more precise, I would put him just a little under Saber, but your call.
>Not the Flash.
Read the Achieves
Can kill anything by telling it to die. uhh we don't see her use her power because she doesn't like using it.
We don't know what levels of destuction she can do, i don't know why the other suggested it to begin with.
OP I think you should remove mecha and mecha scale (GNR, Walpurgis) from the chart. Seems funky to be comparing planet-smashing, planet-size mecha alonside planet-smashing, human-sized humanoids.
WOAH SHIT HE BLEW UP A CITY
WE GOT A REAL TOUGH GUY HERE
What do you even mean by "actual meodp user"? Ryougi's eyes have far deeper power than his. If Void Shiki was capable of manifesting at will and was inclined to use the full extent of her powers, they would supersede everything in existence by their definition.
>The Flash and Superman
Batman with or without preptime always wins
>And that comes back to the point that Ryougi is a reality warper on the same level as Izzard,
No they are on completely different levels anon. you are really overestimating Izzard's Reaility warping
Ryougi can be trapped in a solid cage
Older things take longer to kill for her
Tohno can kill living things, older things, solid things no problem. Concepts are a problem, but most enemies fall under living, older or solid outside of concepts.
And Ryougi's basically more of a reality warper.
Ryougi is lower on the most powerful beings chart than Arcueid. So then place Ryougi just between the two.
Not him, but it's shown to be a kindof mid tier reality warping. MC takes on her powers for a short time in order to let her speak instead of write, and express emotion without manifesting her powers. He accidentally says something and pretty much alters a very large area by his words, wishing all girls wore more arousing outfits.
She kills an immortal by telling him to die.
The whole masou shoujo thing is a mid dragonball level. Kicks from orbit, ect.
im not worthy
Are we sticking with this style of chart instead of the light/middle/heavyweight charts? Or is this just a general one?
Should we add CC from Code Geass to the Special Tier since she's immortal and stuff?
Dio Brando did fucking nothing compared to Akira. Nothing. And he's on the same level as Rei Ayanami/Lilith who nearly wiped out/merged the human race.
Why Not give Her a Seat in Special Tier Then ?
She doesn't suit the type of chart this is
I would be interested in seeing the middle/heavyweight charts being created, but I think it's also good to have a more condensed general one.
I'm pretty sure a physical cage would do absolutely nothing against Void, since she could theoretically rewrite the physical laws of whatever material she's being caged in.
Ryougi's meodp are just as useful and limited as Tohno's. At least she can turn hers on and off and doesn't risk killing herself by using them.
>Eyes that let you erase anything that had been created from existence by cutting it
It's a Special-tier ability like the Death Note, it's an autowin thing that has special circumstances for success/usage. The Special Tier was created specifically for shit like this, stop arguing about it you sperglords
It's not autowin; it's limited by Tohno's ability to actually cut his target.
You're just as bad as Homurafags.
Alright, moved higher.
Pretty much this.
She's an elder god and leader of gods who just eats other gods and universes for breakfast.
Alright, thanks. I didn't notice him.
Batman's power is the anti power + preptime autowin.
You can't wain against batman unless he planned to lose.
She doesn't fight, so no.
>Shinigami finally in special tier
Woo. I haven't looked at this thing in months but I while ago I argued they deserved a spot.
Ryougi's eyes are ALWAYS on. The movie visuals is not the same thing as the actual source material. The reason she's not dead is because she had one year under coma to get used to it instead of scratching her eyes out.
Shiki is three years away from reaching her level of eyes so it's not even that much of a big deal.
Wanting to shut the faggots arguing in this thread is bad? Are you a moron? Just put the faggot in the chart and be done with it.
Whys Yuusha there twice
Tohno's eyes won't "mature" into Ryougi's abilities; they're fundamentally different. Ryougi may have been on the verge of killing herself at the psychological horror of her eyes, but her eyes don't physically damage her like Tohno's do to his brain.
Damn was Sailor Moon really that strong? I never watched the wholeshow
Do you think Gii (with endgame Porshion) from Sekien no Inganock would make the cut to enter?
I mean, his ability to turn things back how they were in the past, perfectly analyze its enemy's weakness and how to destroy it, tied together with the power to execute it. Not to mention his almost-invulnerability when using Porshion and that he has a bit of regenerative powers himself.
Do you think it would be enough tomake him enter in the chart?
Nasu said they would in MBAA
Regardless, this isn't some Battle Royale type shit where everyone's fighting each other, it's a measure of power. The Death Note is limited by its various rules of usage and the fact that the user has to actually write the target's name in the Death Note, it's Special Tier. Saitama can defeat anything with One Punch, but he still has to punch them, he's Special Tier. Haruhi is God, but she can't conciously use her powers, she's Special Tier.
Because I'm cross-eyed and I fucked up my editing.
Read the thread and look at the current chart in the thread before you make a comment, idiot.s
do you have a quote because the wording would be pretty important
C...can you add Doraemon please? ;_;
Powerman is stronger than Shiki, though.
No he isn't.
Ryougi says that Tohno's eyes will take three more years to be like hers.
No. I'm not gonna read 400 posts just to avoid making repeat discussions for some stupid cross-universe anime character power level graph, and you can't make me.
>weaker than anything
Well that's super vague out of context and could mean any number of things. Ryougi is carrying the root around inside of her so i doubt she meant that Tohno is suddenly going adopt Akasha.
>no demonbane bane
Also, since a lot of people asked for it.
Should Dio be placed lower?
I don't remember him fighting and where would he even be?
Doesn't matter, I fucked up and removed the second Yuusha.
>all these revises
>Dio still too fucking high
Being gay for a character doesn't mean you should put him in a higher position.
When will TMfags realize that MEoDP isn't all that special of an ability? You can erase beings form existence and kill their origins? So can everybody at the top of the chart.
>She doesn't fight, so no.
Haven't watched Code Geass in years, so correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't she use some ability to make whoever she touched essentially have a mental breakdown or some shit. I'm not sure if that counts as fighting, but it was used for combative purposes.
I'm a fan of saint seiya but why is Gemini Saga so high there? Galaxian explosion can barely destroy a building and Another Dimension just opens a rift in space and time nothing else. He should be below accelarator.
What do you mean super vague out of context? She says it straight to his face after she sees that he has MEoDP as well.
Void Shiki doesn't use meodp which seems to be a pretty common misconception.
Alright, alright, placed lower.
He really was fucking low and everyone kept bitching at me that he should be placed higher.
Guess it was too high, hopefully it's fine now.
It's the reason I left some open room below him.
Is this low enough?
Yes. In fact, he should be the lowest or shouldn't even be on this list.
Vague in that the way in which Tohno's will become like her's is unclear.
That would put her on the same level as STTGL and the Anti-Spiral. She can destroy a planet, but those two could destroy way more than that. She's definitely not on their level.
>still no Tohno Shiki
Did he fuck you in the ass or something?
Shouldn't Madoka and Homura be Divine and Demon beings, respectively?
Obito Should also be outright replaced by Madara, the new chapter had Madara bragging about how much better he is, with proof I might add.
Her eyes don't mess with her head and can kill concepts. Void Ryougi's Akashic abilities aren't even a part of her MEoDP. It's basically just her accessing Akasha directly.
It's a question of how to rate his power. Because he has more power than he's capable of manifesting: he can only kill what he can cut, and it's not like he can cut someone who can stop time (bottom of the list).
What happens with Dio is that even though he has relatively shorter time-stop power than other time-stoppers (9 secs.) he also has really fast regenerative powers due to being a vampire and a Stand (A manifestation of the soul untouchable except for other stands) which is extremely good at close quarters. That and the fact that he can use all of his powers at the same time.
I'd say he's strong, but not to be that high.
If I add him, it'll cause too much bullshit of him being able to beat X and going higher and whatnot.
Yeah, except he can cut apart a lot of the people in the middle of the list. He actually kills one right smack dab in the middle of the chart.
Would Kamui (and Fuuma) from X qualify at the bottom of the chart?
They're not reality warpers, but they can throw buildings and energy blasts, jump really, really high and break through spells.
While we're fixing Jojos, I'm pretty sure D4C Love Train would be a good addition.
Add Griffith faggot, he can warp space and time at will, he's a God who exists everywhere.
Whether Magic or Divine for Madoka, Homura should at least be consistent with Madoka. It makes no sense for Homura to be half-Divine when Madoka is pure magic
Then just place him in Special Tier. At least that prevents the regurgitated bullshit we get in these threads.
He killed arc by surprise though, surprise attacks can't really be used to rate power, cause characters could kill characters much higher than them if it was by surprise.
>Would Kamui (and Fuuma) from X qualify at the bottom of the chart?
I think they would.
His power is as >>100324893
As for fighting, he have fought alien invaders, God of the sea, armies of dogs, and other small scale shit, but his potential firepower is much more higher. He even has a sword that cannot be beaten while you wield it.
It's not a fucking Who-Beats-Who chart for the hundreth fucking time, it's about their actual Power both in terms of what their Abilities are and how much "Power" they have behind it
He'd be Special Tier
He killed Nero who ramrodded Arcueid. And he killed Nero effortlessly in a fair and square fight. No surprise attacks, just a pure speed battle.
Oh, yeah, need to add Madara on that list.
We don't know his full powers yet.
Fine, I'll do that.
Special power/weapon user?
Alright, I'll place Doraemon in the top-mid tier.
Why would he be in special? His power is limited to the abilities of his human body.
says is true then he should be placed below Sakuya Izayoi since she can stop time indefinitely.
So I showed this list to /m/ and /co/. They didn't like it.
But if this is an actual power in terms of abilities chart, THEN Ryougi should be below Arcueid in the actual chart.
Because in terms of actual power, she is at that position and being in special makes no sense for her. It only confuses people if you don't place her in the normal chart.
Arc was at like 5% power when that happened.
Nobody cares about /co/.
I showed it to your mom and she liked it.
/m/ and /co/ don't even have a chart.
That means it's good
Special power. He can use his fingers to kill.
Out of curiosity op, do you save the file as .jpg and edit it?
Kumagawa should be removed from special tier and put at the bottom.
He's the weakest.
Void is in special because her actual abilities are more powerful than Arc but she's not capable of manifesting them because she's a latent personality and because word of god contradicts what void herself says so the actual applicability of her powers is up in the air.
/m/ was amused.
Anyway, requesting Violence Jack somewhere near the bottom since the guy is a damn tank.
The same is true of other people already in Special
See these two posts:
Arcueid was wary of Nero even if she was her usual self.
>Delusional Shiki fags
Hah! You can actually tell which ones are being debated and which aren't by the artifacts.
Anyone with easily definable limits on their power should probably not be in the special tier imo.
Are there any templates to making the character pics or >9000 minutes in Paint?
I've been browsing through those threads occasionally and the quality is dropping rapidly.
No she wasn't, not at night. She was designed to kill Dead Apostles, and the marble phantasm nearly destroys Nero even when Arc is severely weakened.
>but she's not capable of manifesting them
BUT THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT
This is not a who-beats-who chart. It's just about their actual power.
What is her actual power? Reality bending.
And no, Void is not more powerful than Arc. Nasu already said he's not more powerful than Arc and that he embellished his own powers at the end of the novel.
I just copy and paste a a slot with a character that has a bar I am looking for and stretch white over the text and mugshot.
That wasn't Nero who got BTFO by MP. It was a much weaker DAA
Void is more powerful than Arc going by what she said, not if you go by what Nasu said. It's a blatant contradiction between the author and the work, so it's a matter of personal decision which you want to believe. Especially since Nasu also said that KNK and everything else are separate universes, and that he didn't specify the extent to which Void embellished her powers. If we take her exactly at what she said, she belongs in special. If we take Nasu's word into account, it becomes totally ambiguous.
The author has more authority than the character itself. Why you would use the words of someone embellishing their own capabilities is a bit illogical.
>Typemoonfag shitting a powerlevel thread
Why am I not surprised?
As said by >>100325214 and >>100325553 , Eucliwood's own body limits her. The extent of her full power is unknown, but we do know that she can kill with just one word.
Lower-middle tier would probably be ideal. If not, special tier it is.
If we take what Nasu said into account, she's weaker than Arc, another reality warper.
If you watched Rebellion you would know that the time stop is pretty weak. She can't even beat Mami and people here are saying she would beat Goku?
Not when the author constantly contradicts his own work, there's no evidence that she's embellishing in the original work, and the author doesn't specify the extent to which we can or can't believe the dialogue he wrote.
I think chartfag left. I don't blame him.
If you add Madara you'll need to add Naruto since he'll beat him in about 25 chapters
The author "corrects" himself in later versions. The later versions are therefore considered canon. Author said it was an embellishment, and later rankings have her lower than another reality warper.
I'm still here, fixing up about 4-5 new aditions.
Photoshop always fucking with me and crashing.
He didn't explain the extent to which it was an embellishment so it would be impossible to place her if we go by his word.
they still haven't realized Kanata solos everyone in the tm universe.
Unit 01 should be Special-tier.
Also, Tetsuo initiated a fucking Big Bang
We know that Void is weaker than Arcueid via Nasu ranking. So there we know that her powers are lower than Arc's.
Dude, use a trip. Things like this is the only reason trips should be used
Any particular font or just calibri?
And that's it. So we don't know where to put her except below arc. Except we don't know that she's more powerful than other people below arc. So if she's going to be on this chart at all, it will have to be within her actually consistent and specific description of her powers.
What about Wiseman or Chirico Cuvie?
Chirico is a superhuman with reaction and thought speed fast enough to burn out a custom computer specifically designed to outspeed cyborg superhumans, a slow regenerative ability, and a passive uncontrollable reality warping ability that warps probability in his favor. Something will always by coincidence, save him or accomplish his task if he cannot. Everything around him gets fucked up because he cannot die. He's accidentally destroyed a city, 2 planets, and countless smaller value objects and persons. Taken on 2 armies with about 8 escorts and won, 1v250, 2v~500, took on another army with one guy and won, destroys countless hordes of enemy platoon and company level regiments regularly. Has been shot through the heart, burned alive 4 times, frozen twice(once cryostasis which is implied to be unstable and dangerous, once in -250C weather), fallen from orbit on a satellite(which caused him to suffer major burns, a shattered pelvis, damaged spine, and other minor injuries),and walked out of the hospital days later,and suffered numerous other injuries and large caliber bullet wounds. Has a couple tanks worth of hardware, with the probability of everything around him just going wrong and fucking up.
Wiseman is basically what Chirico could've been if he'd decided to become the next god of the galaxy. Telekenesis, omnipresence, what appears to be a slightly higher degree of reality bending, seeing as He'd kept the entire galaxy and trillions of lives in fierce war for 3000 years without stop by manipulating humans. His idea of defensive show is to erase thousands of ships at once if he feels something important is threatened. They don't explode or anything, just flat out disappear. He can also instantly teleport matter at will and has no physical form, having become an electronic consciousness
She's a reality warper. That's why placing her just below Arcueid is good enough.
This. Homura is really weak when compared to these other guys.
He hasn't even hit 20% power.
not anime, fuck off.
Stop shoving everything in Special, half of the people in it shouldn't even be there.
If anything, only toonforce (The Mask, Loony Tunes) characters like Saitama or Bobobo deserve to be special.
Reality warper doesn't mean anything without a description of her actual powers. The point is if we go by Nasu's word we can't compare her powers to anything except Arc and the TM characters below her.
Alright, give me a few minute, finished shiki and euclidwood, just need to add doeramon and I'm done.
It's a fucking reality warper. You've got mere time stoppers below her. Just put her next to Izzard then.
Without knowing how she warps reality there's no reason to assume she's superior or inferior to anyone. In fact Nasu's claim means we can't even assert that she is a reality warper. If all we know was that she embellished her powers, than who knows what her unembellished powers actually are.
>implying Blazblue wasn't originally Arksys wanting to make an anime but not knowing how so they made a fighting game instead.
Is Cobra strong enough to make the list?
Is there a particular reason Vash is as high as he is? I don't recall Angel Arm being all that impressive, especially considering using it too much kills him. I wouldn't think he'd be more than a hair above the bottom.
She's stronger than primordial demons. And since Arcueid can warp timespace itself, it makes sense that Ryougi has some of that too, making timestoppers weaker than she is. She can make injuries disappear as well.
This Superman maybe
Except other TM characters, like I already said. Arc being able to do something doesn't mean anything about what Void can do.
Fuuma should be slightly higher than Kamui.
He also has the ability to look like someone the opponent really doesn't want to fight and guess the 'wishes' people have, which probably doesn't affect his ranking though.
Fuuma and Kamui are around servant-tier. They would be stronger in a vanilla fight, but lack the kind of 'special abilities' that would give Servants an edge. On the other hand, they've been shown to have the ability to dispel magic so who knows.
Holy shit, Ryougi wankers are worse than Tohno's.
/co/ please, fanfiction doesn't count.
She is powerful enough to make shit appear and disappear. That is more than beyond a lot of anyone below Izzard's level.
She should just stay in special tier because her powers are ambiguous.
Lined some stuff up that was looking inaccurate and messy.
Still Below Arc. >>100324295
We don't know that because we can't trust anything that Void said if we take Nasu's word into account. Her powers are literally unexplained with Nasu's assertion that she was embellishing.
Her powers aren't ambiguous. She is lower than Arcueid, but she can make things appear and disappear, which would put her right smack dab on Izzard's tier.
This list is missing something...(pic related)
Only the trip can post charts
use png or something.
all those artifacts make it look ugly as sin
Yes they are, because Nasu's powerlevel assertion makes them ambiguous.
Alright, added Eucliwood, placed Shiki and Doraemon in the special tier.
Anything that needs changing?
What said? She fixed Kokutou up.
You couldnt do this with png. Would make it way to big.
Add these two:
I thought you were going to add five characters?
I'm pretty sure Mikiya is limping away in that scene.
>Demombane being that low
Nigga, he's literally EVERYTHING.
So, how good is Seinarukana?
Where the fuck is shu ouma?
> As if even Tenchi Masaki could take down a whole endlave.
>white and black with tiny images
Yeah nah it'd be fine.
Or have some website or something that can be rendered and rewritten nicely
Actually wait don't I messed up the colours.
get out of here you big fat phony
No, the facts are that he is not omnipotent. There are to many holes.
though I haven't read them, and if she did fix him, the mechanism of how is still totally unknown. For all we know it only works with Mikiya, or with injuries, or once every year.
>Tenchi and LoN a full row above the other God-tier characters
>Demonbane still not One-Above-All Tier
I fucked up, was going to add Curico and photoshop died on me.
Just give me a minute and I need to add
pnp version is at 3.85mb, it's too big.
Could you add based president Valentine?
>Anything that needs changing?
That image was fake anyways, but I still think you need to read this.
An omnipotent entity would not "fight". The basic concept of Demonbane disproves its own power.
>That smiling Doraemon face
I love you chartfag. But can you make him just weapon user? Doraemon straight out laughed when Nobita said he wants to be a magician. All of Doraemon's tools are scientific.
Oh yeah, he's another one I needed to add, give me a few minutes.
I'll get a new picture since yours sucks.
This never ends.
So is Phisical a meme or something
Why isn't Myuugi top of everything?
Not divine, no, Chirico just has special genetics. Special power would be better.
His existence disproves the power of others.
Does anyone have an older version without all the artifacts? Chartfag will have to move everything around again, but it really is starting to look pretty bad. No more jpg, chartfag.
Nobody's talking about fighting, this is a Power chart not a tournament roster
If you mean in-universe, have you considered that autowinning is boring and fighting is fun?
Who is this man, and why should I care about him?
I support this.
Medaka and Iihiko need to be moved out of Special and placed somewhere around Aiwass with Medaka being slightly above Iihiko, they are both well defined and their abilities are understood by the community and work well around that area.
and for a bit of creative wanking off, Medaka really should be right up the top, her power to copy and perfect anything that makes someone better than the average person outpowers any fighter type and has been proven to copy reality benders powers after becoming a Minus thanks to Book Maker(She was confirmed to be able to use All Fiction during the start of the Iihiko arc)
I fucked up. I thought I was using reality warper.
Agreed though. Probability alteration does seem to be categorized better as a special power.
I never said they were. I said Demonbane fights. Its a fact that the fiction that Demonbane is is front is a mecha fighting story. That disproves Demonbanes own power as it would be utterly pointless for an Omnipotent to fight. If it needs to fight, then its not Omnipotent.
maybe demonbane does it for fun?
We're not talking about fighting, we're merely deciding who has the highest level of power and Demombane in all regards takes the cake then makes infinity cakes.
Tried it with png, makes it over 4mgs.
He doesn't need to fight, it's a choice.
Add Rahxephon on par with Raideen and i'll give this a Nicejob/10 !
Have you considered that it WANTS to fight?
Have you also considered getting some meds for that autism?
So the good guy just accidentally destroyed the whole universes while fighting evil?
did you try it as png, but with decent compression
There is no compression with png. Thats why there is no artifacts with png.
and somehow I'm the dipshit.
This list is pretty shitty.
Yes, apparently you are.
but that's wrong you fucking retard
Yeah, it is. The original was the best. Before it became the current convoluted mess.
But Arc and Magic god are placed incorrectly to start with.
Alright, will do.
The reason she is in the special tier is to shut up everyone who can't seem to place her.
More of an inside joke.
I'll add him too.
Added Chirico but I don't know where the other two would go.
>Lord of Nightmares higher than Demonbane
get that shit out of here
That might be alot less convoluted but it still has errors. and quite alot of them as well
>I don't know where the other two would go.
Near the bottom somewhat.
>Old and Busted one
Fuck, THIRD FUCKING TIME.
God fucking damn everything.
Perhaps I misspoke. You cant change the compression on a png because it uses the minimal amount of compression to preserve the data.
>Yes, apparently you are.
Pretty out of context if you were trying to reply to the post I referenced you to.
The dumbest thing about any of these lists is placing multidimensional supergod characters above one another.
The right list had demonbane, tenchi, and lord of nightmares all on the same level. It's stupid to even argue which god character is better.
B-but muh god made multiple universes in another universes dimension, so he's the best!
>Onipotent and absolute entity in its fiction vs a Mecha made by men thats proven to not be absolute.
Geegosh, I wonder who would win!
Arc lower than Reimu
>Omnipotent and absolute entity in its fiction vs a Mecha made by men that is designed to kill Absolutes
>Added Chirico but I don't know where the other two would go.
Just put them in the corner. If you have to pick one of them, pick Kamui even if he's slightly weaker.
There is no killing an absolute. If it is killed, then it wasnt.
Because there is no such thing as a Absolute.
But Medaka can be placed, her power is tangible and defined and measurable unlike certain others who are at the top, her power makes her unbeatable in a 1 V 1 fight, is proven to work against reality warpers and can only be beaten in a non-show of power fight and all of these matchups are power fights putting her at the top row at least
Thats why you dont make a story about omnipotents, because it would be pretty boring and if its not boring, then you just lowered the power levels of your own characters.
Hence why LON and Tenchi remain on top. They dont fight, they let their avatars do the fighting.
gtfo we only care about OP's chart
Well, that's part of the reason I made the new divisions chart, it's a lot less convoluted to just have seperate charts of different power level groups.
no, i care about that anon's more.
Sakura doesn't belong on this chart.
I was going to be mean to you, but those trips...
Why is Edward Elric lower than Mr Satan?
I think I got everything before the thread 404.
Because Mr Satan is awesome and won lots of tournaments.
Whoops, that's one of the older ones.
Anyway, I might just start the thread for middleweight in a bit, once this thread is done.
I swear to fucking god.
Added Rahxephon, moved Arc above Reimu and fixed a few details.
Hopefully everything is alright.
Where's kumagawa? He should be at the bottom.
Also, you need to put a description of what leightweight means. I assume could destroy a continent or something? Cause a lot of these you can't really classify as world destroyers.
He's still completely outclassed by someone who can do all sorts of magic shit just by clapping.
Hell, he's outclassed by Krillin.
For fuck's sake, moot.
For the time being, Lightweight is street to planet level.
Middleweight will be planet to universe level.
Oh, and Medaka Box characters are going to be put on hold for a while, due to the drama they cause.
Now there is literally almost no room left for anything.
Alright, well hopefully everything is nice and good.
I was thinking of maybe adding lower tier from >>100331462 but Homura being on the bottom was always the joke so I guess you can take care of the lightweight.
Fucking gods and their shenanigans that refuse to be correctly placed.
Great thread guys.
People are stupid. Kumagawa is weak as fuck, ashin'n can't be classified. Medaka is about tengen toppa gurren lagann level, and the fresh prince would be up with the gods.
Thanks, Trip anon.
Re Kamui and Fuuma again (for finetuning in case you add them), they can level a good few km without trying. A city would take a while, but is doable. They probably can't sink continents.
No problem, this was a good thread, despite the random trolling here and there.
Should I make another thread to continue or let it die for another time?
Let it rest for some days-weeks, then we'll see what we can do.
It seems pointless to continue.
Let it rest so I can stop refreshing and go to bed.
let it rest for a while. Keep the trip.
Holy man. That's JPEG'd all to hell.
Alright, thanks for the thread and have a good night.
Then be a kind man and convert it to pnp.
The other version went to 4.5 mb.
It's pretty useless.
>Gurren lagann level
When can Medaka break universes?
>Force changing the compression levels of a png
Thats fucking disgusting. Just use jpeg. Also you apparently dont understand how compression works. If you increase compression, YOU LOSE DATA, YOU WILL HAVE ARTIFACTS.
Its just a simple matter of the facts. Compression is not magic.
Not super tengen toppa gurren lagann. Just gurren lagann.
Technically, medaka has infinite power, but we never see her use it.
Too bad she loses it and thanks for clarifying.
Since her ability works on reality warpers making her a potential on above Demonbane, imagine what you would add to a perfected Demobane
Why not just save the source as fucking png and only post the jpg edits. You don't have to post the png, it's just a matter of not editing the jpg.
I am not the original creator of this list and I doubt that the op is either. If the original was used and saved as PNG its possible that it could still fit on this board but with all the artifacts from resaving this thing its not impossible. It is also true that what you say would work out very well but as I say, the damage is already done.
I have posted the original list in this thread but It would need to be updated with non-artifacted characters and I dont have the time to do it my self. Im only interested in preserving the accuracy of the top characters as It irritates my autism seeing byproduct gods and non-omnipotents sharing the same space as true omnipotents. It goes beyond looking at the text, "hurr my guy can do anything!" when the evidence suggests the opposite and just a minute of critical thinks would let you discover the truth of it.