>Shitting Trick confirmed for biggest flop of 2014
When will people learn that yurishit will never sell?
How many points?
>inb4 500 posts
>worst sale than C3-Bu
Well at least they didn't spend too much on this show.
>1 ep airs
>What is comparison to other airing shows this season?
But is it worse than Nobunagun?
I really never seen such a harmless animu generate this level of hate in this board.
Its pretty telling i guess.
The fanbase is toxic
Because it's the epitome of pandering. In the most literal sense of the word.
*Nobunaga the fool
No it's not you fucking retard.
You clearly have zero knowledge of marketing.
This season is pretty shit, the only two shows I am watching is KLK and Space Dandy.
And both are bad.
What are you even talking about? It has been on Amazon for like 2 hours.
I don't go on /u/. I don't go on tumblr. But I still love the shit out of Sakura Trick. And most of the threads I've seen have been fine. Some /u/fags, but nothing horrible. No tumblr in sight, either. If you want a toxic fanbase, look at Kill la Kill.
>Not wanting to be pandered
Why do you people even lurk anime boards?
Nips have shit taste.
Look what happened to Sora no Woto.
They are too shy to enjoy something as pure as Sakura Trick.
Son, it's been out for a couple of hours.
>Not understanding what the word pander means.
Why do they allow people like you to pass the second grade?
past tense: pandered; past participle: pandered
gratify or indulge (an immoral or distasteful desire, need, or habit or a person with such a desire, etc.).
Pretty much what I meant. Why do they let people resort to this sort of shitty sidetracking of a discussion when they have no proper arguments?
IRC trying to start some shit.
are they lesbians or something
And now let us use a real definition, and not the first thing google says.
>pan·der - intransitive verb - \ˈpan-dər\
>: to do or provide what someone wants or demands even though it is not proper, GOOD, or reasonable.
It is not side tracking a single thing, and it is an entirely valid point in an argument. People have just deluded the word to point where it has no meaning on this board. But, it can in fact still be used correctly. As is the case here.
Sakura trick panders low quality material to it's fanbase, that's there is to it.
They are just good friends, it's normal between girls to have such skinship.
Well to be honest
It is not very good
Once more. Welcome to /a/, where we all knowingly consume a medium we know is of low quality and are more than satisfied with it. If that bothers you, you can always go somewhere else. The internet is full of pretentious places to discuss anime.
>Sakura trick panders low quality material to it's fanbase
The problem is what exactly?
Lesbians don't sell, yurishi does
Yeah... A counter to that point is not "everything is low quality", because it's not the point. The point is that it purposely lowers it self and relies on a single gimmick.
The fact you don't see it as a problem proves one of two things.
a)The fanbase is just that retard.
b)You don't know what pander means even though the definition is right there.
I have a feeling it's both.
I think you should just stick to western media, anon.
You got any stalker numbers?
Not that you had a valid argument in the first place. But now you're not even trying.
The medium being discussed is irrelevant in context to whether it panders or not.
Pandering does not mean on mean low quality. Which is what I'm sure you're missing.
>The point is that it purposely lowers it self and relies on a single gimmick.
When the hell did that point come up? You're pulling a strawman on me now? You're like crappy arguing 101.
The point was that we know it's a low quality product, we know we are being pandered to and were happy with it. I am at least, I'd rather not judge the whole fanbase by one person.
Also, I know everything is not low quality, but if you want to seriously complain about people liking low quality products you might as well leave /a/.
I'm not even part of this "argument", I just don't see why you could continue to stay in this thread and fling shit just to make yourself feel better.
The same points have been done to death. Nobody cares.
Nice faulty syllogism, you think just because you call it that makes it true? That's not a logical falsity.
And if you're not arguing it's good then what was the point of responding when the argument was whether it panders or not.
Yes, you were backing the opposing argument.
I said it does pander from the start. That was never a point of disagreement.
You implied it was not pandering by saying it was not a real point in an argument to take. When in fact it's the most accurate word to use.
People who watch and enjoy humourou-yuri where the yuri is used both as a sub-device to carry characters forward as well as a source of jokes are not the same people who advocate this cis/trans 'check your privilege' crap crowd.
Get out of here you goober.
I can barely understand your English anymore and from the start my point is that I'm very happy being pandered so I don't know what you mean.
I will be honest, no matter what you say, i don't see any difference between this and yaoi, in fact both pander fujoshits. Yes, both.
>i don't see any difference between this and yaoi
I'll explain it then. You see, one has cute girls kissing and the other has cute boys kissing. Got it?
Mmm, the English was fine.
But as long as you know you have shit taste and low standards I guess there's nothing more to be said.
I'm glad we came to an agreement. Like I said, welcome to /a/ and anime in general.
What is a "high standard and non-pandering" Anime for you? Could you please name any?
Please don't pander to him any further.
This way we can keep him away from the real ST thread.
It's shit, what did yurifags expect?
There is good yuri. Just this is not it. By a long shot.
Sakura Trick, less than 1k
Holy shit you bunch of autists, it barely became available.
Anyone making sales threads so early in the season is completely fucking retarded.
Free! and Dog Days didn't teach you anything?
>Anime that you like
Commericialized filth that panders to its degenerate fanbase for quick cash
>Anime that I like
Masterpieces that challenge and succede against the convention of its respective genre
What are you guys talking about?
Sakura trick went on sale a few hours ago. Since the points it gets is based off of its position over time it has very few points at the moment. So people are making fun of it since it has no points and therefor no sales.
They're taking what they can when they can.
Retarded trolls being retarded.
Leave them alone. They are probably poor autistic kids posting from a hospital.
Maybe I'm blind but where are those points in this picture?
/a/ is just acting retarded, like usual
Points are only added daily.
Thats not autism, its down syndrome.
Right. Which means it has 0 points and is on sale at the moment.
Just like every other BD after it had just went on sale.
Thank you god. I can't stand these uneducated faggots that think one thing makes a show good or the best show of the season.
The only thing this show does is get your dick hard, the faggots that think this has anymore merit to needs to get their dicks out of their minds.
It takes a good story, good characters(which this doesn't have because they're dumb bitches with the same tropes we see all the time) good animation, and ost to be AoTS. This uninspiring shit deserves to fail so we can get some actually worth while original shows going instead of all these shitty rehashes .
You obviously don't.
A lot of anime take a while to sell.
Arpeggio, the second selling anime of 2013 winter, was so far behind in points, yet shot up to 9k sales.
third highest* forgot about Non Non Biyori.
Which is why Non Non Biyori is AOTS, and a best seller, and IS is once again higher than 12k.
You obviously have no idea how anime sells in Japan.
If it panders correctly, it sells pretty well.
Having a good story, great animation, great characters, and a good OST is irrelevant. If people don't enjoy it, no one is going to buy it.
Arpeggio v1 will be third after KnB and IS. Its currently at 12k+ BD/DVD's.
NNB v1 is at 9.3k BD/DVD's.
I can't read that gook speak, what am I supposed to look at?
>if it panders correctly
Which is why we need the Japanese government to do what they said they were going to try and start doing. Which is backing up studios to make high budget worthwhile shit to attract other people into anime. Studios now are to scared to break out of their confirm zone, so they're forced to pander.
I understand where you are coming from. I just hope you don't think pandering is a great wonderful thing everyone should inspire to do. The industry should be more free to do what they want to do.
Take Space Dandy for instance, yeah it's going to fail but the production and everything is super solid in it. You can tell they put hours and hours into this and they had fun making it. They were never weighed down by the faggots telling them they had to make something just for money. We need more shows taking actual risks each season.
Yuri is the exact opposite of yaoi.
There are homosexual males though who hate yuri exactly because of that, and you are probably one of them.
>thinking Space Dandy is better than anything, whereas shows that "pander" are the worst thing ever
Hey you, faggot, I think you belong to /co/ and not anime. You clearly are looking for something which anime isn't.
pandering to people who are not you != bad.
It's like you completely ignored everything he said just because he brought up a show you don't like.
Fucking Christ, this is of level immaturity the industry is dealing with.
Reminder to stop enjoying things that don't stimulate your mind.
This is what I hate about the anime community the most. Their acceptance of rehashes
So I can still enjoy tasers?
>Not enjoying fun things
To be fair, it's only a minority of very vocal psychos.
>first week of /a/
It's like you guys think /a/ is going to agree with you faggots, when most of your ideas are shitty.
Space dandy is shit, and panders to perverts who are underaged.
More studios taking risks = less anime productions and budgetary cuts for ALL STUDIOS
>B-buh no p-pandering please ;_;
Everything that is sold, whether it be media, entertainment, products, what have you, panders.
>b-buh y-yuri shit...
If it's fun, it's fun. Get over it, and drop it if you don't like it.
>seriously complaining about "uninspiring" media
You're all fucking retarded.
ST was made cause fans wanted it, and it does what it does. It entertains the fans, which is what entertainment should be doing.
You want something deep and complex, do math.
Don't complain about "y-yuri shit" when it's doing what it's supposed to do. Entertain.
You want to do something about media in Japan? Buy manga, donate to studios, write your own shit, get a job as a writer and do your own screenplay, and push for it to be animated.
The reason why anime like Sakura Trick gets animated, is due to the supporters in NippleLand.
They're doing what they can to support studios, you on the other hand, are bitching and doing nothing but bitch.
Has this faggot ever literally told anyone to stop enjoying it?
>to make something just for money.
Great idea! Lets just invest over a million dollars into something that will fail, I'm sure everybody will think that's a great idea.
Anon just slapped the shit out of this entire thread and whoever joins it next just to bitch.
Erotic flattery is beaten uncomfortable kissing a simplistic to lily bulls and beaten with Gachirezu Gross The pig Moe Straight
It is quite painful position
Stop using that word
Nice. Now ban /u/ from /a/.
Inari KonKon is better yuri show this season anyway
He used it correctly, retard.
You can speak in English if you want.
I'm not big on yuri, or romance of any type i prefer big robots hitting eachother, but i really want this anime to sell.
Because its obvious that if this were to sell incredibly well theres a good chance that the usual shitposters would kill themselves in a fit of butthurt.
Seriously, this is getting retarded as fuck.
May your prayers be heard.
I meant in exact words.
It would blow his cover as an obnoxious no fun allowed faggot who thinks it alone knows what's best for the industry.
When in reality it's just a pretentious cunt.
I want this to sell so that better work in this genre have a chance to be animated.
I'm enjoying shit like >>100304615 this uberfaggot getting assblasted.
He got told by ANN of all places, lel.
>Space dandy is shit, and panders to perverts
Haha, oh the irony. I'm neither one of the 2 anons you are replying to but this is just gold.
Honestly though, to me it sounds like you have your opinions and righteousness stuck to far up your ass. And the way you try to speak your culture influence and knowledge of how this board and anime in general runs is is just pure comedy anon.
We got ourselves the grand sage of /a/ right here. Oh how accomplished you must feel.
That's MAL. unless he's on ANN as well.
Theres nothing wrong with having a healing anime like this or D-Frag, after season of getting fucked by Edgyfaggotry or retarded Harems.
As opposed to harmful animu?
He actually did too, i was on the thread he got told.
He ran like a little bitch to ANN for raise a normalfag army to invade /a/...he got banned from ANN forum.
It was glorious.
>being a delusional faggot who is oblivious to all the PLOT and fanservice
>"B-buh my sex jokes"
It's shit, it panders to perverts, it's not the next Bebop, and you should get YOUR HEAD out of your ass.
>grand sage of /a/
How is that a bad thing?
Was that supposed to be an insult?
God damn it. That would explain all the faggots in this thread.
Valvrabe made me lose three week on a coma.
So yes, there are harmful animus.
>He ran like a little bitch to ANN for raise a normalfag army to invade /a/
I'd love to see the threads, they sound hilarious.
Thats nothing, he has a entry on that TV Tropes parody YT channel.
Dude is fucking whack.
Some did a jpg of the posts like >>100304615, i didn't saved it thou.
>making any yurishit but Yuru Yuri Season 3
Anime I am disappoint
>it panders to perverts
You mean it panders to horny normalfags. True perverts want more than boobs and ass shoved in their faces, don't group us with normal scum.
It literally went up for preorder a few hours ago.
You aren't going to get any kind of reasonable numbers for a day or two, considering its, you know, the middle of the night in Japan.
That's nothing. True Tears made me commit suicide. Twice.
So it is Chargen (or something like that)? The guy who hates yuri like it killed his family?
But Space Dandy is pandering, just to toonami watchers.
It has nothing to with just sex jokes anon. The show is extremely polished, has a unique OP and ED and just looks good. It's definitely not the best in terms of writing but it's nowhere near terrible.
If you sit here and tell me it's pure shit, 1/10 materiel your fucking biased garbage and your opinion can't be taken serious.
This idea that you are the vain of anime and if the show doesn't have what you have come to expect as "true" merit in anime needs to stop.
Where to check it?
So you're even shallower than "yuri-fags".
That's a riot.
>ok OP and ED
>"JUST LOOKS GOOD"
that's fucking hilarious.
This nigga: >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWwZlXWu2uU
Bonus, animu related:
>Which is why we need the Japanese government to do what they said they were going to try and start doing. Which is backing up studios to make high budget worthwhile shit to attract other people into anime.
Too bad it will only sell if it appeals to otakus or shonenfags and fail to expand the audience in any way. This is the same country where stuff like Paranoia Agent and Kaiba bombed in sales. Being creative in this field is financial suicide.
Sakura Trick is hardly yuri.
I'm a pretty sensitive faggot who's afraid of leaving their comfort zone when it comes to entertainment, I can basically only read or watch something like Yuri when it's guaranteed a happy ending while anything that isn't mutilating little girls or fat fluffy beady-eyed things barely fazes me.
I just want forced drama bullshit to stop.
Space Dandy is the very definition of pandering.
Even more than ST would ever be.
That said, i'm enjoying both shows.
>It's definitely not the best in terms of writing
Please just be honest, its shit.
>just looks good
That's a fairly accurate description of Space Dandy. I'll give you the OP and ED are good too.
Why is pandering bad anyway? Isn't making something what fans like exactly what everybody in the world is doing? TV, Books, music etc. Everything is made in a way somebody enjoys it.
I think the same about KLK, but guess what?
I don't go into KLK to say that.
Refer to >>100305104
It's just faggots in this thread don't know how entertainment works.
Why do you people actually follow people like this?
I want this to sell well because 1) I'm into this kind of thing and 2) Seeing other people get bothered over my enjoyment of nearly everything is rather enjoyable.
Wug topped charts immidiately as it went up and still does dominate.
And its fucking Yamakan. There is no excuses loosing to him.
Is not, it could be in the long run, but the way the pandering argument is used on 4chan it mostly sounds like 'Don't pander to THEM! pander to ME!'
I read this. I just hope i get an anwser from the faggots.
>Why is pandering bad anyway?
You can say "pandering" when you want to have a negative spin on the word "appealing".
John appealed to the voters by promising lower taxes.
John pandered to the voters by promising lower taxes.
Why should i care?
>And its fucking Yamakan. There is no excuses loosing to him.
Don't worry. It is just because the movie is cheap and has a lot of extras. Volume 1 will sell like shit.
Also, something worse is even stronger
***,**9位/***,**9位 ★ (**2,402 pt) [*,**0予約] 2014/03/19 アニメオリジナルfigmaすーぱーそに子 水着Ver.付(初回限定版) そにアニ(1) [Blu-ray]
Does this faggot flat out hate Yuri itself, not even just the genre?
>delusional IM@S fag mad IM@S movie looses to WUG
He hates Yuri.
I don't, i found the channel after someone posted Chengen vid on another thread.
The 'You are not Alone' made me lol.
And made remember when i thought that Eva was Deep.
>***,**9位/***,**9位 ★ (**2,402 pt) [*,**0予約] 2014/03/19 アニメオリジナルfigmaすーぱーそに子 水着Ver.付(初回限定版) そにアニ(1) [Blu-ray]
How did that shit sell so much? first episode was horrendous, even for jap tastes.
I think that guy followed K-ON just to tell people each week that they were wrong in liking it.
I've also seen people on MAL telling him off because neither sales numbers nor the site's userbase support his generalizations about "mindless Kyoani fanboys".
There you have your reason why.
figma. It already drops since edition with figma sold out
Well, people that don't like ST or SD hit their threads pretty hard, heck just look around this thread.
Including Super Sonico merchandise in the BDs is guaranteed sales.
Wrong retard, pandering means to have a specific outcome in mind, and make something.
Appealing means making/thinking of something that people liked afterwards.
'my looks were appealing to him'
As apposed to
'I wore a short skirt to make him notice'
Damn, them japs and their premiun goods.
Literally the only reason why anyone is buying this piece of shit anime.
Well this is more or less sakura trick thread or containment thread.
So fuck space dandy.
WUG is going to be sabotaged by Im@s fans.
SakuTrick is dead.
Kancolle is fucking retarded but it's like some mixed Touhou and PuzraDragon together.
Haven't seen such explosion in a while.
You are too stupid to realize the point of the post.
>'my looks were appealing to him'
You're using appealing as an adjective, not a verb here. Also, you're generaly making no sense. Also, your definition of pandering is completely wrong in every single possible imaginable account.
What a fag.
He wears a fucking skirt for a guy.
FUCK YOU IRC!!
Friendly reminder that there's always a good thread and a containment thread for Sakura Trick.
I think we're the only two people on this board who think that. Good on you.
Late as fuck, but if you literally think girls can't love girls even in 2D you're a complete faggot with absolute terminal shit taste.
Honestly, I think any thread that starts with "shittiest anime of the season" or "hurr flop you _xfags sure got told" or anything to those effects should be instantly reported. It's obvious they're just trying to start shit, so shitposters should be treated accordingly.
I agree, threads that start out like that aren't really conducive to constructive or enjoyable discussion.
I agree, except on the part about the discussion not being enjoyable.
Any fanbase is toxic when there are people like you (and the respondents) who instigate and propagate fights. I do not see and what I feel as, legitimate obsessive 'cis'/tumblr shit, as I don't even know what constitutes that demographic or their 'unwanted posting style'. The real issue is a few people choosing easy to react targets and throwing out the stock phrases to set things in motion. The fact of the matter is that the people you are trying instigate as being present, are not because the whole fucking site/board should be abhorrent to them, thus they do not stay.
Even my own actions are just extending to the finger pointing game, please everyone stop it and just enjoy the cute lesbians kissing, we expected this not to sell spectacularly.
Late as fuck, but if you seriously ever think girls can't love girls even in 2D just because it isn't pandering to your repugnant obsession with anorexic sparkling gorillas fucking each other in the ass all day you're an absolute shit taste faggot and you deserve death by plasma chainsaw sodomy.
I think ST is pandering to the yuri/subtext market, because of late there's been a shitload of subtext series that sold decent, but no gay MCs in a few years. So this was more another testing of waters. So this time instead of DORAMA (sp) or action adventure lesbians (simoun), Marmite (sclass, that seems t have sold enough), Deen went with what had been popular of late (cute girls doing cute things full blown plotless SoL) hoping to bank on that fandom. It's still early days, but that jump from subtext and gay jokes to actual gay might turn people off, it wasn't exactly a huge manga to begin with. But things like Sasameki and Aoi Hana never sold terribly well either. When yuri crosses that line from joke to foremost aspect of the series, it just stops selling because only pure yurifags will buy it, and that crowd seems small as shit (even though there's a shitload of yuri porn and what I thought was a large following of such).
But nothing in ST is subtext of any kind.
These bitches want to fuck eachother silly.
How might a full blown ecchi with actual Yuri rather than subtext possibly fare?
It draws in the crowd you need with the PLOT.
This almost there. I'd love some kind of SonoHana given the YnS treatment, 24 episodes, sex every episode, going through all the games, not the greatest plot, but enough lewd and gay for everyone. Rather light as well.
But still there's something we are missing. /a/ likes the gay, very few of us will pay for anything ever and I don't know how the mind of purchasers work anyway. I just think it's so damn niche it's near futile to even try. It's kind of what's happening here and in the other examples.
Like lesbian subtext is not what makes all those series with that subtext sell, it's the whole package.
It will be a great day when yurifags and fujoshi die out.
No more yaoi and yurishit, a new age of prosperity.
>Its pretty telling i guess.
You mean we're all closet lesbians?
This shitty gay rights rhetoric doesn't fly in this case.
>this level of hate
seems fairly normal
Tumblr truly does sound like a monstrosity now.
Not even gonna lurk.