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God I fucking hate this punk. Jonathan was better.
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>>100288489
>not liking Joseph
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>>100288550
Watching his antics is exhausting. I feel like I'm babysitting just trying to slog through an episode of his nonsense. He lacks couth.

Joseph a shit.
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>>100288673
Don't worry, he gets better
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Jonathan was pretty boring imo
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>>100288489
So you are basically the opposite to everyone, good.
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Joseph is the Jojo with the most characterization of them all.

Johnny is the Jojo with the best character development.
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>>100289661
I guess I could agree with this.
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>>100289661
>Joseph is the Jojo with the most characterization of them all.

That's mostly because he's the kinda character that steals the spotlight and Part 2 doesn't have too big of a supporting cast, unlike most other parts.
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>>100290016

Sure, but it's also because Araki has taken a lot of time to flesh him out and tell us about his personality and preferences. How he likes the beatles, how
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>>100288489
Glad I'm not the only one who things that way. Jonathan was a real gentleman, an MC to admire and respect. Joseph was a fucking clown. Even though his setting was much better, part 2 still ended up much worse than part 1. And I've heard it only goes downhill from there, at least art-wise. It is around the end of part 3 where Araki crosses the border between "fabolous" and "faggotry", right?
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>>100290263
Whenever I see old Joseph, I can't help but voice him in my head as the JJBATAS version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu37vvDzQjc#t=3m+50s
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>tfw love the stands in part 5 but it's the worst one
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>>100290538
it has some of the best fights, aswell
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>>100290462
Part of the reason is because when Jojo was being serialized in 1987, Araki was just pandering to Hokuto no Ken fans. He didn't have that much control over his work, because he had to draw muscle men and grimdark chapters to get Shonen Jump's approval. Araki imparted his magic onto part 1 by making it somewhat of an acknowledged parody of Hokuto no Ken and bara culture, and adding in music references to add to the parody feel. It ended up being an unintentionally over-the-top manga that handwaved manga that came before it.

It wasn't until part 4 that Araki was allowed to do whatever he wanted, and the series turned fabulous. And from part 2 onward, it's mostly intentionally over the top. I didn't word this post perfectly, just the best I can.
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The overly-huge and exaggerated muscle men was Araki venting his displeasure over what fans wanted. He said fuck it and made them huge without regards for anatomy.
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>>100290462
Nope. Part 3 is the most manly part ever. Jotaro kicks ass.
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>>100290462
Jonathan is the ideal Jojo that his successors should shrive to be. I personally think Part 2 goes downhill after Caesar dies. I still enjoy the part, but there were plenty of things that could've been improved.

And I think Caesar should've been the one to kill ACDC to show off more of his abilities and personality instead of Joseph. He wasn't around for very long which is a damn shame.
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Too bad he is also one of the best JoJos
Josuke is the best, though
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>>100290677
>It wasn't until part 4 that Araki was allowed to do whatever he wanted, and the series turned fabulous.
>part 4
>series turned fabulous
Did we read the same manga? It was already fabulous by Part 2
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>>100290677
So you're saying Araki always wanted to draw gay-looking men, it's just that he wasn't allowed to? It's a shame. His latter chapters look absolutely homo.

>>100290803
The majority of it, yes, but I'm pretty sure that around the end of it, art changes begin to take effect. It might've been the beginning of part 4, though.

>>100290836
True that.
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>>100290934
nope

what you're referring to is late-Part 4
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>>100290869
I fucked up that wording. It went from bodybuilding fabulous to non-bodybuilding fabulous in part 4.

>>100290934
Yeah, part 4 was when Araki did what he wanted to do all along. Before that, he fought for Shonen Jump approval.
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>>100290972
> Dio >notfabulous >>100290934
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>>100290934
>His latter chapters look absolutely homo.

whatever you say, buddy
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>>100290972
Why did Toki get a haircut?
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>>100291079
Why is a cowboy in chainmail straddling a native american?
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>>100290934
>His latter chapters look absolutely homo

>nude women
>Daiya/Dia/whatever incest rape scene
>I know you, you're that model from that porno mag I read
>Just give the money to the big tittied girl with the tattooed left leg
>W-w-wait a minute, you're not Josuke

>homo
I'll say it again: Are we even reading the same manga?
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>>100291138
To kill the president of the united states, duh
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>>100291138
dude what
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>>100288673

Personally I found his ruses entertaining.
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>>100290538
>tfw i like part 5 better than 6 1 3 and have it even with 4
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>>100291138
Because his friend IS DEAD
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>>100291144
> Daiya/Dia/whatever incest rape scene
How the fuck is it incest? Their most recent common ancestor was 4-5 generations ago, and it's not even counting Josuke's condition.
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Yeah, he's too genki.
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>>100290263
That's pretty funny if this is an accurate translation. Never thought I'd hear the name Al Yankovic in manga.
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>>100293476
Well, he is American
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>>100293591
But Jotaro isn't.
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>>100293626
Joseph isn't either.
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>>100293789
Explain.
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>>100294068

Hes from england
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>>100294111
He had lived most of his life in USA, and that's what >>100293591 probably meant.
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>>100290462
>implying Araki's art doesn't improve immensely after part two
>wah why isn't every JoJo a kenshiro clone like Jplonathan
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>>100290934
>I'm pretty sure that
Maybe you should actually read it instead of basing everything you know on things you read on the internet.
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Jotaro>Giorno>Joseph>Josuke>Jonathan

only on part 5
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>>100290836
> Jonathan is the ideal Jojo that his successors should shrive to be.
Despite none of them knowing Jonathan in person. At least Joseph heard Erina's and Speedwagon's stories. Jotaro probably knew just that his ancestor had his body taken by Dio, and Josuke, Giorno and Jolyne may have never heard of Jonathan at all.

By the way, does it work for Joestars in the SBR universe as well? Joseph is a saint compared to them.
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>>100290846
Joseph and Josuke are really similar, Josuke just has a nicer personality.
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>>100295678
and less slut
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Is there any chance that we'll see part 4 get animated? Maybe if SC does really well?
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>>100295819
Most likely, I mean why would they just stop?
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>>100290263
I can't fucking wait for this scene to get animated
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Even Araki had said in an interview that Jonathan was too much of a nice guy and that if her were making Phantom Blood now he'd put much greater emphasis in Jonathan's character flaws.
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>>100296384
Source?
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>>100296459
Man, Kira's life was great until those stupid moralfag kids decided to ruin it for a second time.
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>>100296459
I wonder if Kira started having feelings for Shinobu or it was just one sided affection from her.
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>>100296665
Kira was retarded.
>I want to just live a normal life
>Better keep murdering women
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>>100296459
>>100296665
>>100296755
Kira was the protagonist of Part 4.
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>>100296799
That's pretty peaceful, I'd say.
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>>100296755
>Kira
>feelings
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>>100295819
> if SC does really well
It probably will, unless Davids seriously fuck something up. SC is pretty popular and is the most well-known part.
Of the first 5 ones Part 1 had the lowest chance of success, but look how surprisingly good it did.
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>>100296821
That's not Rohan
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>>100294695
Best art: late part 2 to part 4, plus Steel Ball Run.
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>>100296459
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnzt4x_araki-hirohiko-interview-english-sub_creation
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>>100288489

Joseph actually has character.
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>>100296835
But anon, he does feel like a picnic!
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>>100296799
He couldn't resist his nature! He was just a human being with human weaknesses after all.
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>>100288489
Joseph's great. I'd buy a house from him.
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>Commie
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I started reading part 8.

What the fuck is going on?
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>>100297335
He didn't get rich by not betraying his customers.
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>>100297335
Then he'd fuck your wife
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The way Cars lost was such bullshit. How the hell could a volcano launch him into fucking space?
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>>100297409
Keep reading, it gradually gets more awesome
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>>100297554
That's the only thing that bothers you about Cars? Really? Fucking really?
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>>100297554
Araki made him way to strong so he had to pull bullshit to make Joseph win, as simple as that.
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>>100297554
It was such bullshit I couldn't help but love it. It was all part of Joseph's plan obviously.

Also the volcano was charged with a super stronk ripple.
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>>100297554
Ripple magic amplified by the Aja.
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>>100297615
Oh, there's more. How the hell was Joseph able to reach the plane and takeoff with it before Cars caught up? How the hell did he know how to fly it? When the hell did Von Stroheim get into the plane?
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>>100296799
Do you think people make conscious decisions to become serial killers? No, that's because they have mental defects that drive them to murder women and follow certain patterns and rituals.
It's also one of the reasons why death penalty should exist in every developed country..
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>>100297769
Joseph flies the plane through all the nazis and Speedwagon and co., at which point loads f dust is thrown up as he takes off again. After that Stroheim is missing from the group. So I guess he just hopped on at that point.
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>>100297769
Cars is a fucking God made by 10 different animals that's more powerful than every being on Earth and became a rock on space.

Don't you think that it already became bullshit way beforehand?
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>>100296384
> Jonathan was too much of a nice guy and that if her were making Phantom Blood now he'd put much greater emphasis in Jonathan's character flaws.
Is that how he created Johnny?
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>>100297769
Ripple magic.
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>>100290377
He took a page from Bugs Bunny.
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>>100297409
What's not to understand here?
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None of JJBA makes any sense. It simply is.
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>>100297769
>How the hell did he know how to fly it?
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>>100297776
Does he think people can stop their nails from growing?
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>>100298332
I don't remember the exact numbers, but his nails are growing at an insane speed. That's definitely not normal.
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>>100298332
abaj
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>>100291098
This is Souther.
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>>100298332
Found it.
31.5/12 = 2.62cm a month. I would've been
> In humans, nails grow at an average rate of 3 mm (0.12 in) a month.
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>>100298332
Found it.
31.5/12 = 2.62cm a month.
> In humans, nails grow at an average rate of 3 mm (0.12 in) a month.
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>>100299270
Even on his "off" years they're still double the average, christ
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>>100299173
original character DO NOT STEAL copyright Hirohiko Araki



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