Should I play Amagami, or can I just watch SS and get the same experience?
General rule of thumb:
VNs always have more content than their anime adaptations.
Rihoko and Sae best ends were not adapted so you should definitely play at least those.
ss is not nearly as thorough, or good in general.
I haven't played the game, but the anime is one of the weakest romance anime out there. Unless the game is total shit, then you can't do any worse playing the game instead.
I've only played Ayatsuji's route, and as far as I can tell the anime managed to show most of her important events, however, in comparison it feels a little rushed. For example you spend a lot more time with her before you learn about her true personality, which results in a stronger impact. In general, there is more casual interaction with the girls, which can get a little repetitive though. Overall, the anime is a good adaptation, I'd definitely recommend watching it. And if you find yourself drawn to one of the girls that you'd like to see more of her, simply play the game.
Also, the second season of the anime is anime original, so you'll probably want to watch it anyway.
By weakest you actually mean best, right? Amagami did everything right. It's one of the best adaptations out there and the omnibus format was a godsend.
>By weakest you actually mean best, right?
Uh, no I mean one of the worst, like I said. If I meant best I would have said best.
>Amagami did everything right.
Your welcome to your opinion, but I don't share it.
>It's one of the best adaptations out there
Again, I didn't play the game, but if that's the case, then I doubt the game is very good either as the story and characters are horribly shallow.
>and the omnibus format was a godsend.
The omnibus format is the major problem. Each arc of the story only gets 4 episodes. This alone is not enough time to develop an entire fleshed out love story. But each 'arc' wastes 2 of those episodes on pointless fan service and self insert nonsense. Then usually on the third episode, finally gets around to developing the 'plot', which usually devolves into the girl having some outside incident that she expresses to the MC about. Then in episode 4, the girl magically falls in love with the MC for listening to her problem in episode 3.
How is this a well developed love story? Its the worst example of self insert pandering out there. Even worse than fucking Twilight.
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There's also SS + which gives each girl 2 more episodes each.
Laughing at the post doesn't invalidate it.
Also, less animation.
>story and characters are horribly shallow.
I don't know what you are expecting. Amagami is a dating sim. Also, I don't see how the characters are any more shallow than in most other shows. Care to exemplify when it comes to non-shallow romance?
>The omnibus format is the major problem. Each arc of the story only gets 4 episodes. This alone is not enough time to develop an entire fleshed out love story.
This is utter nonsense. In most romance anime, which usually is harem/romance, most time is spent on the common route, then drama kicks in, the mood is ruined, girls are dropped from the plot left and right, and in the final few episodes they try to hamfist a romantic conclusion into it.
Amagami gives each girl four episodes, however, these four episodes are for the girl alone. There are no harem elements. In overall screen time, it's probably just as much, if not more, than the main heroine in your average harem/romance gets.
Not to mention that the omnibus format also keeps the threads civil and the viewers happy, because everyone gets to see the girl they like win. (inb4 mad Rihofags - I'm sorry that you didn't find the ending conclusive enough, personally I still liked it - and they even rectified it with the second season).
>How is this a well developed love story? Its the worst example of self insert pandering out there.
Again: it's a dating sim. Dating sims are very often about normalcy and idealism opposed to pointless drama.
Lastly, what is a good love story supposed to be? Your criticism of "self-insert" and "pandering" sounds suspiciously like normalfaggotry to me.
>this whole post
Except you skipped over my entire point where there's no character 'development'. All the episode time is wasted on pointless fanservice and self insert pandering. Which you seem to think 'character development' and 'plot' equates to 'drama' and 'normalfagottry'.
The fact is that the only 'development' in this show equates to fanservice such as kissing the girls knees or fondling a girls stomach. Followed by (usually in the third episode) the girl venting all her problems on the MC and then magically falling for him. If you're willing to excuse this as enough character development simply because its a dating sim, then that's fine. But I'm not.
>there's no character 'development'.
There is no character development? Have you watched Ayatsuji's route? In pretty much all routes there is a certain amount of character development.
Lastly, one should consider the mundane setting, there are no big hurdles to overcome, so the character development can only be proportional to that.
>All the episode time is wasted on pointless fanservice and self insert pandering.
You call it "wasted" yet that is exactly what the show set out to do. Provide wish-fulfilment, which is the primary purpose of a dating sim. If you consider yourself above or not in need of this you should reconsider what you are doing in here, because what you're saying is pretty much the essence of normalfaggotry.
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Adding to >>100274600
While you were talking about "ignoring points".
>Care to exemplify when it comes to non-shallow romance?
I was serious here.
Second, the criticism of the omnibus format. I suppose my given argument was convincing enough that you dropped the argument? Or did you not have anything to say in reply?
>Still no imouto route
>There is no character development? Have you watched Ayatsuji's route? In pretty much all routes there is a certain amount of character development.
A couple of routes are better than the others. But still, not by huge leaps. And as you're now starting to point out, the scripts themselves don't exactly lend themselves to any real hurtles to overcome.
One of the key parts of writing is suppose to be 'conflict'. If every girl just magically falls for the MC because he's in the right place at the right time, then where is that conflict? Conflict doesn't have to be about people beating each other up or shooting each other with guns. But it gets pretty boring watching 6 different repeating 'omnibus' stories where you see the same repeating scenario of the girl magically falling for the guy because he is simply there.
>Lastly, one should consider the mundane setting, there are no big hurdles to overcome, so the character development can only be proportional to that.
Again, like I said above, that just kind of points out that the show has no conflict. As I've been saying all along. The girls have various problems. But the MC just sits there and listens to the girls problems...and is rewarded with them magically falling for him. Its as if the only conflict in the show is the girls all being depressed, hopeless girls who need a guy to cling to. And the MC magically is the guy who appears at the right time to fill their void.
Again, if that's enough for you to consider it a good show, then so be it. But making a claim like 'best show ever'...I'm going to voice my opinion against that.
I'm not answering your 'provide examples' junk because that always just leads to someone derailing the argument by claiming the other persons examples are shit. I've answered all your other challenges.
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I imagine this board would be a much easier place to reside in if everyone were able to discuss opposing viewpoints like those two anons. Also,
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Not every show needs conflict. Conflict is not relaxing to watch - and certainly no representation of the "ideal" school romance a dating sim promises to the player. You clearly don't understand what the show sets out to do.
>it gets pretty boring watching 6 different repeating 'omnibus' stories where you see the same repeating scenario of the girl magically falling for the guy because he is simply there.
No, it does not. I was well entertained, and so were many others on /a/. On futaba they have Amagami threads pretty much on a daily basis. So clearly the anime, as well as the VN, managed to resonate with lots of people out there. If you can't see the appeal of a (mostly) drama-free, saccharine, high school romance show, then I fear I can't help you.
>The girls have various problems. But the MC just sits there and listens to the girls problems...and is rewarded with them magically falling for him.
I wouldn't say the girls have "problems". When it comes to Ayatsuji that may be the case, but even then, I've seen shows do a much more formulaic job where you could literally tell when a flag was set. In Amagami, the MC merely hangs out with the girls and a relationship develops. While it happens a bit faster than in the VN, it still does a reasonably good job. Especially when it comes to harem/romance anime. But since you're unwilling to give a few examples of shows which do a significantly better job we don't really have a frame of reference here.
>Again, if that's enough for you to consider it a good show, then so be it. But making a claim like 'best show ever'...I'm going to voice my opinion against that.
I wasn't the one who started with superlatives here.
What about the argument regarding the omnibus format?