>implying the anime won't be the new shingeki no kyojin
Who are you quoting?
Why are you trying to stir shit up?
>girl gets her legs broken, others eyes gouged out and bitch gets raped by a dog
christ this shit was edgy as fuck
This is supposed to be a TV anime? How are they gonna get away with that without censoring everything?
Epic maymay bro
More like the new Deadman Wonderland or Mirai Nikki
SnK is at least wildly popular
Please tell me they are not going to make it into an anime. ALL IS LOST!!!
inb4 muh sekret clab!
Well folks, it was fun while it lasted. SnK levels of faggotry here we come!
nice buzzword faggot
I hope they actually give the characters colors instead of bleeding different highlighters onto the page.
it became popular because the anime
>How are they gonna get away with that without censoring everything?
They're not. Enjoy waiting for the BD rips.
I hope they blunt some of the edge. The manga is good and all, but sometimes I just have to roll my eyes at how childishly sadistic it is.
It's kind of like reading Jojo, by how over the top it is.
I like the over the top action. Just some of the stupid shit the author puts in to show how cool and edgy he is is grating. If you discount Dog's amazing characterization, that bonus chapter added absolutely nothing to the series at all.
Probably why it was called a "bonus chapter" then
What is it and what is it about?
Most of the time "bonus" chapters still offer entertainment. You know. Its kinda why they exist.
I thought it was not a anime , im confused
I'm sorry the author didn't consult you on what you define as "entertaining" before writing the chapter. He probably regrets it every day.
I doubt it. SnK is an intelligent and interesting series. This is just edgy shounen shit.
irc pls go
>implying people have shit taste to like this
>look it up on manga fox
>first chapter is called "kill the darkness"
Fucking hell, is nothing sacred here? I wanna become a shitposter too, I'll show this series to /v/.
Shingeki was popular before the anime. Much more so than akame is now.
>going to /v/
hoihoi welcome to the club
But whose studio doing it? My bet is on Trigger.
fuck you I like them all
the contrast between the bright and cheery setting and characters and the dark shit that happens is super neat
>implying the anime won't be the new shingeki no kyojin
That's Terra Formars, OP.
>implying it won't be just another forgettable adaptation
The manga isn't very edge. Especially the characters. Except wave.
Whatever you say
Dogakobo is the most likely studio. Based on history with toho and they are open in spring and beyond.
Do we have a studio yet? Please don't be the same studio that did Majikoi, the SoL parts were OK but the action was fucking awful.
I think you meant the opposite.
Mature content for mature readers like me!
I made this image a while ago as a joke.
its just a shounen anime where no character has plot armor.
No not really.
Tatsumi is a dork
Rabac is a perv
Leone is happy to lucky
Mein is a hardcore tsundere in dere mode
Boss is chill as fuck even though she just lost her teigu
None of them are edgy. At all. Even esdeath isn't edgy.
>IRC going all out
I wish we had Janitors who could see the obvious signs and delete shit like this.
But how the fuck is wave edgy
Remember when Deadman Wonderland appeared in manga 3x3s?
This series is gory as fuck sure, but the cast itself is hardly edgy, most are happy bright youngsters.
Akame is the best
I don't get it. Yes you can save and post pages from the manga. Are you trying to prove a point? Do you realistically expect to accomplish anything?
He wants revenge on night raid and was in kill all mode when he saw them. Normally he's about as dorky as tatsumi.
Blue is mai waifu.
More like he's trying to help out Kurome cause she's menstruating.
I know what AgK is, I was asking if they are going to make it an anime.
>From the studio that you Yuruyuri, GJ-bu and Mikakunin de Shinkoukei
that's exactly what makes it edgy
Its just his pre-prepared set of images to create some kind of stupid shitstorm.
Nobody is buying it. Even when he went to the trouble of making an image like this >>100265514
>Literally every thread since the announcement is manga readers trying to pretend like this series isn't the fucking definition of edgy, and anyone reading the basic description for the series laughing it off
Actually this is going to be the next SAO
Whether it becomes popular or not is up in the air, but every single thread will just be a back and forth of buzzwords and shitposting and anyone who might have been a vocal fan of it will probably be singing a tune of a different color after the first month or so after it airs
Can people just report this thread?
I mean, its such blatent shitposting.
Run out of pages already?
>Actually this is going to be the next SAO
Nice shitposting, man.
Everyone can shitpost all they want, I'll just be laughing it up while ordering all the Esdese and JUSTICE figures that'll be made.
I did not know this was getting an anime. Neato.
>every thread on /a/
What exactly makes this series 'edgy' besides the first and 25.5 chapters? If the series was edgy you'd have tatsumi be an emo guy who wants to murder esdeath with every fiber of his being and that's the exact opposite of his character.
>oh yeah finaly ITS HERE!!
>dog scene is skipped
fuck,after all the guro they cant put doggy style!?
Why are you replying to him? He is just spamming a meaningless buzzword to get a rise from you.
He doesnt give a shit what it is.
While I'm usually against any changes being made to source material, I hope whatever studio makes this puts their foot down and demands to redo the character color schemes. I've honestly seen childrens coloring books done better.
Fuck you, the colour schemes are fine. The latest chapters have struck the balance perfectly.
All the anime need do is take the latest designs from the manga and use them.
Raba and Mein still bug me.
if akame ga kiru is edgy then what does that make berserk?
That's an omake, punk. It was supposed to show the back alley trades of the empire.
It isn't edgy to be edgy like SnK. This shit, and shit worse than it actually happens on our planet, cunt.
Berserk had just as much gore and smut as this and I love the shit out of it.
You fellas crying "Edgy!" need to think a bit more for yourselves.
Not very popular (at least compared to something like SnK or SAO), meaning we're allowed to like it. Because liking things that a bunch of other "normal" people like makes you lame.
Berserk is just edgy 2deep4me garbage. I dropped it around chapter 10 cause I couldn't take anymore of its bullshit.
Berserk isn't very popular?
You realize there's barely any "edgy" shit in it right? Aside from excessive violence at times, it's quite the opposite of edgy, and the main cast is fucking cheerful as fuck.
AgKshitters everyone, point and filter from now on.
>(at least compared to something like SnK or SAO)
I'll never understand these people who just stop reading a post at any random point they feel like and then proceed to get confused or angry about it.
Shitposter-kun, not to interupt you whilst you are spreging but surely "AkGshitters" would love Berserk, by your fucktarded logic.
Come on son, you at least have to maintain some kind of consistency to your shitposting.
How about we just stop using edgy
it's word for simple idiots who can't explain their tastes
The problem with AgK is that it isn't written in a mature manner like Berserk is. Berserk is written to feel gritty and have realistic violence. AgK feels like a teen who has to take a break every once in awhile to show suffering for shock value.
I don't mind when the main characters suffer. But taking time to show random people die in horribly elaborate ways is just too much.
But he gets blasted off again every time he appears like team rocket. Tetsuya even draws the twinkle when he disappears into the sky.
>It isn't edgy to be edgy like SnK
Say what you want about SnK, but the edge in that is far more justified.
Shitters mean the ones shitposting a series, you moron.
If is in this thread, Berserk is edgy as fuck.
Why don't you faggots report shit?
I know you are just here to shitpost but AkG actually handles its death and character reactions well. How the cast (on both side) deal with their lifestyle and how close they all are as comrades but not letting that get in the way of their missions and dealing with grief in a constructive way are all nice touches.
Ultimately, this series never glamorises what they are doing. The characters are all distinctly aware of what they are and what they are trying to achieve. They just keep calm and carry on.
>Shitters mean the ones shitposting a series, you moron.
Since fucking when?
Sounds dark. 2dark5me
Here's a happy gif to cheer this thread up.
I'm pretty sure they're on the same level. It's all entry level.
Welp, now I have to make a note about never clicking on an Akame thread ever again.
In Japan, in /a/ or between normalfags?
Are you joking? I love AkG, and I like how it handles actual character death. I just hate all the edgy crap on the sidelines. I literally can not stand the fact that the author goes out of his way to devise horrible deaths for female extras. Its obvious that he's just funneling a fetish he has for suffering and gore.
Don't listen to the trolls. AgK is a cute, cheerful series.
I know a person's opinion doesn't matter if they use the word edgy
Shingeki threads were lucky to get 40 posts back in the day, I see much more activity in AgK threads.
Usually depends on the OP.
The actual discussion usually happens when someone doesn't make a OP just for shitposting purposes.
So is there any actual story or is it just this bunch of fags fighting against the edgy darkness royalty in the capital?
>already not good
>going to be censored on top of it
Also people saying >edgy are morons.
Why don't you read it and find out?
It's not all random killings and suffering, there's actual story. Don't let the shitposters deceive you.
The torture and shit feels pretty shoehorned in. His friends just got tortured to death and a few minutes later it's back to light-hearted shenanigans with the assassin crew?
There's a plot to it. Not very strong but its there. Most of the people here just hate the "Grim Durp" crap that the author throws in to try and look cool.
I mean, we get it, you have a torture fetish. It comes off juvenile and immature every time he kills a female extra for the sake of showing an innocent girl die in a brutal way.
And it keeps happening.
Actually, I don't think there is any other manga that can handle all this death and shit without being edgy.
AgK manages to balance it with cute SoL, comedy and romance, and the characters are anything but edgy, both in the main group and in the enemy one.
But yeah, the moment the anime starts airing, the fanbase will be flooded with retards.
Besides his friends, I hope they cut out the torture scenes. They add nothing.
>Actually, I don't think there is any other manga that can handle all this death and shit without being edgy.
Yeah, can't you at least wait until it airs to shit things up?
It doesn't feel balanced, it feels totally out of place with the art style and overall tone of the work.
It feels perfectly balanced with the art style, are you blind?
Actually, I really like this image in >>100265514
Because while he may be trying to show that the series is EDGY by putting together a compilation, it actually shows the exact opposite.
That image is the extent of ALL the EDGE in the manga out of 44 fucking chapters.
44 chapters and all you have is a small image like that, half of which is made up from the bonus chapter and first chapter which serve as the groundwork for the setting? That's pretty pathetic to call it edgy and Elfen Lied tier, or even close to deadman tier.
>the moment the anime starts airing, the fanbase will be flooded with retards.
That's always true.
>the next SnK
But SnK actually has mystery and a good hook to pull you into the story. I just read the first chapter of this and there's nothing here that makes me want to keep reading.
On the contrary. It was the development into a battle shounen after the well received initial chapter that engendered the big initial negativity regarding the series.
There were of course cries of grim derp after chapter one, but the backlash I described was much louder.
AgK is Elfen Lied tier, with cute parts and the sudden edgy gory scenes, it will be loved by teens but I'm not sure about most normalfags.
>/a/ suddenly hate Akame ga kill
AgK has great action. And characters actually die.
Well, people who were expecting anything but an action shonen after reading chapter one are retarded. And chapter one isn't even what I'm referring too.
it got an anime
>Fun enjoyable shounen manga
>/a/ trolling, shitstorming, over-analyzing, turning it into shit
I still like it.
Remember when /a/ liked Deadman Wonderland?
>But SnK actually has mystery and a good hook to pull you into the story
It's not a good mystery. There's no hook to find out what's going on. No reason to care for the characters. No reason to care for their world. The "mystery" is simply an incomplete setting that allows the author freedom for future developments.
It's a good move on the author's part.
There's nothing in chapter one to suggest it would go full retard except for the the sentai reveal. That is a suggestion not a hard fast, battle shonen here we come no breaks. There's an equal amount of evidence it's going to be harem in the first chapter.
Characters dying doesn't mean so much when the characters are all one dimensional shounen characters.
Hopefully the anime won't be that popular and all these people will just go away.
It became popular and attracted the trolls. When it started getting daily threads that was the sign the future threads weren't going to be pretty.
yeah, when it didn't have an anime.
Some of them are women or old men though.
I don't mind the killings or brutality of the manga, after all it is a revolution that's going on here, so of course you can expect killings.
about the brutality, well you seem to forget that people in the past were pretty brutal as well, just remember the inquisition or the medieval times where people invested ways to kill other people will extreme pain such as
people were fucked up even more back then, since this shit was actually a legal way to punish people and show authority
Its better than the one dimensional shonen characters surviving to fade into obscurity after several hundred chapters of being sidelined.
This might have been entertaining when I was fifteen. Someone tell me how this is any better than Naruto?
>just remember the inquisition or the medieval times where people invested ways to kill other people will extreme pain such as
Brazen Bull is ancient times anon.
Yeah that's not going to happen. The first episode is going to be AOTY for all the kids on /a/ since it's going to have all of Tatsumi's friends being murdered and hung in the storage house. Then it'll spiral out of control from there.
Is it being compared to SnK or SAO due to the hype or does it also have shit tier writing?
>Fun enjoyable shounen manga
No, it would be fun if they don't kill my favorites characters, I'm still mad.
I hope it's SnK-tier of popularity in Nippland so I get a lot of figures made. I'll just filter all the cancerous threads that'll come and enjoy my series.
so its basically naruto but with edgy character deaths
its just an example of humans having fun killing other humans in extreme ways and using methods such as these to oppress people or instilling fear in them so they don't rebel
If it's popular we can console ourselves with doujins.
Got to look on the bright side.
Read it and form your own opinion.
The manga have one of the worst fanbases. it has a potential to climb to SnK levels.
The problem is that the author so far only presented questions and only now it seems he will start giving answers, so we sill inevitably get lot of frodo questions.
Oops, meant for >>100268344
Go to bed, shitposter-kun
no one's buying it
Is anyone else bored of Beta faggot meet generic swordgirl ?
Shit is as overdone as zombies.
> Just recently /v/ermins get into shitposting with le edgy meme in Akame ga Kill threads.
Why this never happened before? is like we are going to get raided in every thread about any series with some guro and dead.
Also the new SnK should be Terraformars if it ever gets an adaptation.
irc pls go
Tatsumi's anything but beta faggot.
I'm so sorry anon
Terra Formars is any day now, it's like the best selling action seinen in Japan right now. Hopefully David picks it up after Jojo.
Oh great, more faggots will be drawn to this awful, repetitive series now.
Well the thread was originally a bait,so I don't understand why people is so upset
That was the time when the /v/ wasn´t being leaked here as much as today.
It's shit. You can tell from the first chapter the author has no idea how to write a decent story. It's just a gorefest battle manga and the killing blow: the fight scenes aren't even remotely interesting.
Isn't excessive violence like the core of edginess
Doesn't get much more generic than AgK.
Edgy would be excessive violence without any remorse or just not caring about your actions. Like if the MC just killed a guy cause he felt like it or for no reason. It's an attitude thing.
>I don't understand why people is so upset
Because it will keep happening, even in legit threads the shitposting will increase so hard no one will be safe, it happens every time anew series get a release and get popular.
I wish shitposting was baneable, but that would make 4chan more close to a heavy moderated forum.
Nobody has a clear concept of what "edgy" is supposed to be.
Humanity is fucking fucked because of impossible beings that kill people in horrifying ways just 'cause. Despite this, some still have hope and all is not lost. There is corruption but it isn't widespread.
Everyone is evil except the poor and oppressed and also these freedom fighters (any who don't fit these categories dies gruesomely), also everyone who isn't good is a sadistic monster because I don't know and, oh my, look at just how EVIL these EVIL people are. Goodness, they are so, so evil. Except these two guys. They aren't evil but they fight for the side of evil for dumb reasons.
Isn't that like every villian of the series
One of these two good bad guys die btw, but his killer gets guro'd so it's okay.
I can't really think of anything like AgK, in that it tries so hard and relies so heavy on character deaths to keep people reading.
Yes. In this and every context on /a/, edgy is roughly understood to be something that tries to get itself taken seriously by trying to be "mature", usually with unnecessary violence, sex, and a conspicuous lack of basic morality. All of these elements are completely fine used correctly, but something that is edgy goes so far in trying to be serious that it just comes off as ridiculous and off-putting.
So every villain and/or noble of the evil empire, then.
That'd be better. At least there would be actual discussion.
If the definition of edgy that 4chan holds was actualy true, every single show ever created with dead and blood would be edgy and shit.
The core of edgyness relies in a character atitude rather than the show itself, Ex: Sasuke Uchiha
villains being edgy is a given, that's just how they're written (when they're written generically). Calling a series edgy though would have to refer to the main characters though, since those guys being psychopathic killers is not standard. That being said, AGK isn't edgy because the characters play out exactly like normal shounen characters who don't like killing people. They just happen to have to kill people instead of beating them into friendship.
Ironically, the telegraphed character deaths were a big part of why I stopped reading. Why should I care about these characters when they just keep dying? I stopped before the chick with the headphones (or whatever they were) died and groaned since people threw SUCH a shitstorm when she finally did.
SAO is genuine shit you amoeba
>characters with DARKNESS
>actually has a plot you can try to pick holes in and is not just SoL
It meets all the requirements.
>mfw seeing this thread
>mfw thinking about the future when Akame ga kill anime airing
>characters with DARKNESS
>actually has a plot you can try to pick holes in and is not just SoL
So does fucking Indiana Jones.
That's completely wrong. Did you keep reading them manga past chapter five?
Were you asleep during the part of history classes where they teach you about the glorification of violence by nobility throughout the ages? The Roman Empire, for example.
Or perhaps you're simply 2cool4school.
The fact that the mangaka savors the villains frequent horrifying acts really makes the word "edgy" pop up in my head. Sure, they (mostly) end up being killed but a lot of times they DON'T. They just get away with being evil for another day. Notoriously there was that police bitch with the dog who tenaciously survived and last I read (admittedly a long time ago) was being portrayed in a sympathetic light. Well, that has nothing to do with edge, that's just me bitching about a particularly horrible character. Yeah, I'm supposed to sympathize with this bitch who grins maniacally as she murders and dismembers the opposition.
Seems like Akame ga kill is the type of show that will piss me off because of the edginess and despair.
It's edgy (as fuck) because of the way the villains and nobles are portrayed. They're ludicrously and uncomfortably evil and cruel. It's the juxtaposition of incredibly simplistic bad guys with tons of excessive violence, torture, and rape which comes off as childish and creepy. Shock value is what gives the series its "edge."
You could probably take out all of the dog rape and face-flaying and get the exact same story. It doesn't need to be nearly as explicit as it is because it's so simple.
Of course, there are places where you can actualy have a decent discution about whatever the forum is about for a long time, but just becasue such places are heavily moderated and normaly no fun alowed.
Besides, most forums are full of cancer. and underages. i have never heard about an anime/manga forum without cancer and actual mature people not being massive cunts almost all the time.
So the day has come, where it'll be impossible to discuss AgK normally on /a/.
I missed the old times.
Time to commit sudoku.
So the bad guys just torture people for fun? Wow, that's the lowest tier of villain.
We didn't even need for the anime to start airing. Just look at this thread.
Don't go to MAL or Animesuki.
This fucking post.
the writing isn't the strong point of this manga. But the villain girls are really cute.
I don't get what's wrong with accepting that the manga's edgy and enjoy it for what it is.
>baww why don't people like my edgy pointless shonen shit?
Yep, all but two: one who is a carbon copy of the main character who SOMEHOW misses the atrocities all around him, and another who totally understands how horrible shit is but keeps going because he has a family and he just kinda has to- actually pretty cool, but he dies anyway and he could have totally run off with his wife and kid rather than cry about how miserable his work was and how he was such a bad person.
Not all the "bad" guys do that. The ones who do are lunatic assholes who happen to be in a position of privilege that allows then to do that and go unpunished. The antagonist team -who work for said bad guys, thus being "bad" guys themselves- have their own reasons to be there and are not so simple.
Yeah, the quality of AgK threads has lowered since the threads started to actually not 404 when there were still atleast 100 posts till the bump limit. Pretty much started with Chelsea getting the Vlad treatment that Christmas.
>all these fags saying SnK and SAO
You mean Elfen Lied, Mirai Nikki and Deadman Wonderland.
It´s ok Anon, no matter ho much /v/irgins and shitposter tries to derail threads, the show will be enjoyable for you and me.
Unless the studio in charge fucks up in something.
Literally all but Wave and Bors just have backstories to explain their sadism, but that doesn't stop them from being retarded sadists.
Except Esdese. She is a cool sadist.
But Mirai Nikki is nowhere near the level of edge and lack of a real story as this.
AGK threads are essentially just waifu jerk generals now. Just waves of why is JUSTICE the best girl or fuck ESEDEE or I WANT TO FUCK ESEDEE etc. Not that I can blame them really, the story moves like molasses.
>for female extras
Because it's not like Suu and Braht weren't the broest of bros.
Also, 23.5 was the backstory for one of the first missions Tatsumi ever took. The one he did with leone. If you go back and read it, you'll realize the girl describes the exact situation that happened in 23.5.
There were some great threads recently. Most of them when there's a new chapter out. The rest of the time it's as >>100270160 says
>Everyone is evil
But that's wrong. They never even use the word evil.
But that's also wrong and they openly admit to being horrible people. You have no idea what you're saying.
Braht died in like two chapters for the purposes of giving the MC an actual weapon, does he even count as a character?
You realize most people who read AgK also read Berserk, right?
Who isn't even objectively evil and terrible people outside of notMC and deadguy
What would you call him then?
Oh shut up. If you're going to use the manga's flimsy definitions like "Oh, murder is always wrong so we are BAD because we are murdering these fucked up monsters in the shape of men" then there's no point in arguing with you, because you are an idiot. They may not use the word evil, but they are most certainly evil. Also, I am not going to get into an ethical/morality discussion over what "evil" means in a societal context because no.
No, it isn't. It's isayama's sperg bullying angst.
Nice job parroting.
But people like it, what are you talking about.
Don't care. Would still watch the anime for Akame.
It´s pointless, this kind of shitposting isn´t against the rules.
It's being compared because of shitposters.
So I guess accurate and justified criticism of a mediocre work is shitposting now.
are there titans in the walls facing inside?
>They are most certainly evil
You just proved his point.
>implying a character's actions and misadventures can't be a turning point in a story
Try and think for a moment before making your arguments please.
Shitposting on /a/ 101:
>Compare it to SAO, SnK or Naruto
>Call it Shounenshit
>Call it Edgy
>Watch as everyone gets mad
This señor get it.
Because every single person waited for the anime to be announced before voicing their criticisms.
>excessive violence at times
Do you not read? That's why I said barely, because there's excessive violence AT TIMES. And the cast is the antithesis to edgy.
well that certainly is not what's going on in this thread.
It's excessively violent like 75% of the time. The core parts of the plot are relegated around violence and the other parts are just random unnecessary acts of violence.
The cast themselves get killed, sacrifice themselves, morn over the dead/too cool to moan, hate siblings, have dead family/friends that they fight for, and do 'edgy' shit like that too, had their arm ripped off, so you can't really say that they're an antithesis.
Indeed. Also, I like how people ignore just how fucked up the series is because the omake and first chapter are, I suppose, *particularly* fucked up. For instance, there was that one shota villain who collected the faces of his victims. Not edgy at all! Wish I could find the page.
>You just proved his point.
Really? Goodness, you got me! I thought he was just an idiot, but you proved me wrong in one fell swoop!
Also, a character can totally be a plot device. He was hardly developed aside from him being strong, gay, and another ex-military dude. He was made to die, like 90% of the characters in this series. He was made for progress. He was made for plot. He was a plot device.
What chapter? This is rude.
well, going into a AGK thread and voicing criticism about it would be suicide. This thread is fairground for everyone.
> Using /v/ memes
> accurate and justified
Pfff Mis lados!!
Well, looks like I can no longer enjoy talking about Akame ga Kill here anymore.
Can't wait for All you need is kill to get it's inevitable anime adaption so everyone can shit on that too.
You forgot to include something about fanbases in there.
Rabac isn't a plot device. He's also the only character I enjoy.
More like a total reversal, especially in the moths to come where saying you like the series will be suicide like what happened with SnK.
Whats even sadder is that it is going to get worse.
Whatever, I'll just wait till the anime ends and hope that the AgK chapter threads don't devolve to SnK tier.
>o-only 3 chapters are e-edgy you b-baka troll-tachi!
>series literally about a band of rebellious teenager assassins who kill "corrupt" members of society, all of which are rapist baby eaters or something similarly over-the-edge, most of the main cast also die horrible, graphic deaths as well
Like, I don't dislike Akame, it's not a particularly bad manga
But it is literally edgy as fuck and no amount of neon colors makes up for that
The difference is that a plot device has one intention: to move the plot forward and that is all. They serve no other purpose. Braht gave Tatsumi motivation, offered up his weapon, and died before he could be an actual character.
Filter and report. if it´s too much, just give up in active posting, like me.
hahaha wow look at all these faggots defending their mature manga for mature people like themselves. It's one of the few cases where using "Edgy" is correct
>I also never read the manga
>Replying to obvious bait.
I'd be surprised if there was someone on /a/ who hasn't read this pile of shit at some point
>I don't dislike Akame
>it's not a particularly bad manga
/a/ is a bunch of hipsters
explains it perfectly
One which seems to carry substance. One which seems actually alive. One that isn't disposable.
>The characters are there to make the story advance
You say it like it is a bad thing.
>posting images you didn't even read
Yeah, this was completely not a result of the author's need to masturbate over misery and cruelty. Note: the face he's holding is of a character who was introduced just a few pages prior within the same damn chapter. Awesome!
rich and powerful = murderous psychopath that eats babies and rapes virgins with dogs
poor country bumpkin = heroic noble virtuous paladin
Like? All the characters so far are disposable.
I think that was his point.
You're missing the point. Actual characters do more than just move the story along. It's the difference between an innkeeper introduced when the cast needs to rest and a villain who hounds the protagonists, for example.
Well, I mean what is the definition of Edgy? Buzzword notwithstanding
Not really, read up.
take this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSuNtbTyQV0
and just add rebels trying to fight off the evil empire/king etc.
basically plenty empires during history use cruel methods of killing people to frighten the populace so they are obedient and don't question the king etc
At least the series is getting some doujin.
I'd closely tie it with "dark" and explain it as anything that needlessly indulges in miserable subject matter, dwelling on it and relishing it. Also, trying to make such things seem cool, like suffering is awesome.
adjective: describing someone in a tense state of mind; nervous; apprehensive.
"Applied to books, music, or even haircuts which tend to challenge societal norms and reveal the dark side. Cutting edge."
Did I miss the announcement? Where is this image from?
>panty & stocking
>more than 15 episodes
If they lasted for more than ten chapters AND were given proper time dedication/development I wouldn't call them a plot device. Braht lasted a fairly long time but it wasn't until he was about to die that he was given any significant attention.
Esdese is so cute, though
I'm pretty sure you could've absorbed the entire manga through just thread pictures since there really isn't much to this manga besides character death and really crazy bitches.
>savors the villains frequent horrifying acts
>edgy because of villains
Name me some of the villains that commit frequent, violent and horrifying acts which are glorified because aside from the faceless empire creature who we never see except in 23.5, your posts hold no water. The ludicrously evil empire is no different from history.
The lesser criminals that get one panel are pimps, loan sharks, etc.
The actual foils to the main cast aren't edgy villainous.
Prime minister is cunt because of greed. We haven't actually seen him participate in shit other than manipulating the emperor for his greed.
Bors has killed only on orders of the empire. Knows what he's doing is wrong, and only does it because he doesn't want anything to happen to his wife and daughter and wants to provide for them
Ran no one knows
Esdese, sadistic sure. Is praised for her ability in war, like every fucking military general in the history of fucking man. In reality, she cares for her subordinates and protects the citizenry and is absolutely putty when it comes to romance.
-A bit edgy
Akame: a bland, lifeless doll
-How can an inanimate object be edgy
Tatsumi is just trying to make a better place for less privileged to live happily. Had delusions of being a freedom fighter which were quickly crushed by the rest of night raid, and he now understands he shouldn't be glamorizing what he does, but doesn't question the necessity of it either. He keeps a cheerful personality.
Wave does what he does because he's repaying his master. Realizes shit's a bit off.
-About as edgy as team rocket
-A fucking psycho. contributes to some edge when she's executing justice. is cute grills doing cute things when she's not.
I could keep going and keep proving you wrong, but you're shitposting and I only made this so other anons could have a convenient repost to this shitty argument of yours.
No formal announcement yet, but akame.tv was registered before an upcoming announcement.
Would it have pleased you that the author had given that murdered girl some chapters of backstory?
Are you offended by his way of showing that shota's cruelty?
I can't see other way for you to be so entangled on posting the violent parts of the story. Sure it is violent as fuck and whatever you want to call it; however, appreciating only that side of it and disregarding every other makes your opinion pretty much negligible
anons are going full hypocrite by saying this isn't edgy.
If you guys were actualy able to not respond to bait, upcoming AgK thread would be nice.
You know every post using le edgy meme are nothing but hard trolling. just look at this thread.
>inb4 but m-muh accurate opinion is fact.
Also Raildex general keep doing this and so far their threads aren´t as bad as SnK/Kill la Kill early threads ( though raildex threads are just pure waifu circlejerking and praising based js06 by now)
Well if people learned what edgy meant, then maybe these threads would be somewhat civil.
You say "every other" as if this manga offers so much more. It does not. Aside from incredibly out of place Slice of Life (given just how dark the series is) there isn't much else to this manga aside from villains being disgusting and then, maybe, heroes ending their lives. Don't pretend like this is some incredible, mufti-faceted work.
Will we get a OVA of the three girls being raped?
As it relates to media, I'd say "edgy" content relies exceedingly on shock value (typically gore, violence, rape) to generate audience interest.
I don't care about the edginess or whatever. The fact is this just isn't an engaging or original/creative story in any way.
Coming from somebody who reads and very much enjoys this manga, it's pretty edgy. The fact that pretty much all the villains are baby-eating torture enthusiasts it's kinda hard to say that the nasty shit they do isn't a little bit gratuitous.
But, I don't pretend that the manga is anything else. It's just a pretty fun battle manga with some cute girls and the bonus of no plot armor.
What's your point? It's overdone in Western media, not so much anime and manga.
no official anime announcement yet, but they're setting up anime announcement flags like AgK death flags
>huge announcement coming up
>new website domain opened
Do you really think you can win? Do you really think anyone can win?
It's all already over. Trying to argue against the manga being edgy just makes it easier to pull the "hugbox/can't take criticism" card in every single fucking thread. The larger in volume your argument is, the more power you give them.
It's all over. Been a good run you guys.
Acording to /a/, now this buzzword has efect in every fiction work involving gore and dead.
Think about it.
It's actually average violence that you'd find in most action.
>ignoring all the arc-villains to focus on the decidedly more developed main antagonists
Smart, although most of the main antagonists are cruel sadists anyway. I don't recognize most of those names since I dropped this long ago but I distinctly recall
as horrible people. That is 4/6 characters. There is also the prime minister who, as you say, is "only greedy" but he constantly endorses horrible things for his own jollies, which is what I'd call edgy.
I actually like the manga, but my God is the existing fanbase horrible (And quite active for something that didn't have an anime). The threads are going to be very, very bad.
Every chapter has some type of excessive gore scene.
SnK blew the fuck up after the first trailer came out
I remember when js06 first appeared after it was pointed out that he was doing the translations. He's great but I just feel all the cocksucking is really unneeded.
Thing is edgy has been used so often as bait that people just hate the word being used as a (rather poor) criticism. Its like if I went to your favorite anime's discussion thread and called the current conflict forced drama.
Is AgK edgy? Semi, because it uses provocative themes such as gore and murder more than what is needed to get a point across. The problem is that when we on this board think of edgy we get a mental image of Sasuke crawling in his skin, of hot topic wearing weebs filled with darkness and hating sunshine and shit while loving death, which is something that no one on this board likes to attribute to something they may enjoy.
at least we can still talk about Justice
Yeah. The shota was an edgy cunt. And even his coworkers think he's an edgy cunt. You're acting like they're trying to play it off like the straightest thing ever when even characters in-universe are disgusted by him.
It also has rape and torture freaks aplenty
You have the right idea, and I'd like to think most fans of this series are like you. I kind of hate this series since I picked it up prior to it becoming crazy popular and felt that the /a/non who recommended it to me was a piece of shit since it screamed of tryhard garbage with a few shining glimpses of things that were good. If you can revel in what it offers, though, more power to you. It's a very predictable, very formulaic series so it's not like you're not getting what you want if you know what it is.
>tfw liked agk before it was kool
>tfw these threads will never be the same
It was good while it lasted my friends. I can't stop the bitch tears. ;_;7
Is /a/ full of 12 year olds now? Can't take a little gore and violence and torture? How about a little maturity? Do you think this kind of thing doesn't happen in the real world? Grow up.
Then why the fuck does he exist? Why is everyone just like, "yeah okay this clearly highly mentally unstable fuck is fucked up, but we'll keep him on because" ...? Because what? WHY? Because he's not even the only character who's so fucked up. Sure, he cuts off faces but many other minor characters torture, rape, and dehumanize others for their own sick pleasure. It's EVERYWHERE in the series. It's the whole reason the main protagonists' group EXISTS. Why in the world are you ignoring the series' very setting?
I don't really mind AgK, but that doesn't stop the series from being edgy or means that the series use those themes well.
Except akame ga edge wont be as successful and popular. But still will be trolled to death thanks to the obnoxious fanbase.
Blood and gore is not mature. Hell, I thought that was obvious. Most kids love that shit. I'm okay with it, but indulging in it is actually childish, not mature at all.
Unless you appreciate it in the sense that it's goofy you just come off as immature.
I don't even know what is that.
Even in your cherry picking you're wrong. You can't recognize the names because you never bothered actually reading it. Justice only hurt who she believes to be villains and is an absolutely wonderful person to the citizens would give up her own life for them. She's never so much as thought menacingly about an innocent. She was an example of brainwashing. Granted she's overzealous when it comes to the law.
Esdese again always protects the citizenry. She only tortures prisoners. This is no fucking different than anything that's happened in history.
Akame's sister I already said was a horrible person.
So, no. Not 4/6. It's way more fucking grey than you want to admit.
>Esdese isn't edgy
Did you even read chapter 10?
I'm just calling him out of his fault at appreciating anything else but the non-violent parts, which should be acknowledged in order to make a valid opinion. You don't have to place it as a masterpiece (which I don't) to appreciate other things it offers. Of course he is entitled to his opinion anyways, I'm just pointing facts out.
>Waaaa! why does the author write things that I don't like in his own manga waaaaa!
This is an authentic sample of a non shitposting opinion.
because he is shitposting thats why he ignores it.
I mean, sure it has gore, but its not something thats unheard off for this kind of setting.
But that's wrong. Someone losing an arm isn't excessive gore.
Hahahaha, I like gore and violence, but let's not kid ourselves here.
This is a bad thread.
>Only that one trait makes her whole character
Did you even read past chapter 10?
So how the fuck does nobody know what is going on? How do the nobility hide the fact that they are torturing millions of people to death? Why is this MC from the country so clueless when he lives in such a terrible world, did he somehow not get exposed to it even once despite apparently being a highly capable fighter?
It's generally being cut into pieces with visible organs and stuff like that.
from the last chapter
Bad thread for a bad series and even worse fanbase.
You realize the guy you responded to is the shitposting one right?
He exists because they're trying to show the empire will do anything to keep themselves in power and assert dominance because the PM's a cold cunt. It's a fucking backdrop. This was still at the beginning of the manga, they were still establishing how terrible a place it was.
The volume of cruelty has dropped significantly since the start of the series.
That's the basis of her character. Without it she isn't Esdese.
>ignoring AGAIN the several arc-villains
And the doctor, for that matter.
I'm not "cherry picking", douchenozzle, I'm picking from what you yourself fucking posted. There are countless villains who are disgusting, and I even fucking acknowledged that the main antagonists are more developed and not simply sadists. Can you even fucking read?
Justice's reasoning was, let us say, "flawed" and also, let us say, "retarded". It barely made sense. It was one of those character motivations you just had to go with because they said, eh, it has to make sense I guess. That or you have to think that she's insane, since no rational human being would so adamantly believe what she believed.
I have said in the past that Esdese is a better character, if not the best character in the series, but AGAIN, it's not like that whole "cuhrazy sadist" thing disappears in the face of everything else about her. For some reason, the author felt it would be interesting to make her super cruel but also weirdly nice to certain people? What the fuck's up with that? All said, I still like her.
And that makes 4/6, since you've acknowledged whatsherface and are blatantly ignoring the doctor faggot, leaving Bors and Wave.
>How about a little maturity?
I bet you think something rated M means it can't be immature lowbrow trash. "Muh mature games for mature people like myself"
The thing is, Edgy: the buzzword should never be used as a criticism for show that is not doing a bad job implementing dead, and gore.
Pic related is how you use such concepts wrong and the results are ovbious. Only in cases similar to Ecstasy_aka_darks.jpg, and pic related, Egdy is an acurrate term. Sasuke, Donte and Shadow the hedgehog are other good examples.
>generic cut in half
Shit like that happens in berserk and terraformars all the time.
you misunderstand anon. most people are afraid so they don't complain.
people from small towns are only being taxed to death thus they seek going to the capital to find work, and they get preyed upon by nobles, thieves etc, such as what happened to Tatsumi.
also Nobles, picked up people from the street, people who had no homes and probably wouldn't be missed.
remember that it was the people themselves that also hired the assassins to do justice for them without exposing themselves to the empire.
He comes from a small town in the middle of nowhere outside of the capital. Did you not read?
>he loves his sword more than anything else, and always makes blood rain
man I forgot how silly these minor villains are
Nobody says those series don't have a sense of edginess though. (Having edgy isn't 100% bad.)
People know what is going on.That's why there's a rebellion in course. It's just that some people are helpless against the empire and have to deal with it peacefully suffering.
I am not even shitposting. What part of what I'm saying is shitposting? My disagreement with you, who won't even acknowledge what other fans of the series will acknowledge?
Furthermore, that's the point, you said it. He exists to show the depravity of the empire. The empire is depraved, it pervades every facet of the fucking nation. It makes the series edgy as fuck, I do not know how you are not getting this.
I'll take your word that it gets less cruel but from where I left off it was still stupidly fucked up (note: when the living weapon guy and headphones chick appeared) and it, along with the constant predictable deaths and indulgence in said death made me drop it. SORRY
The real question is, who will voice Najenda?
To be fair, the biggest death flag (gun girl) hasn't died yet and her death flag has been going on for awhile. So I don't who will die next among the night raid
ITT: Every inventing new meanings for Edgy
Did you just arrive in this threads? There was no shit flinging like this before.
I could sweard that AgK project was VN release.
there was a true meaning in the first place?
until now i thought it was a /v/ meme originated with the arrival of Donte.
edgy has been around in Shadow the Hedgehog came out
It´s a shame you weren´t in previous AgK threads.
>Waaaa! why does the author write things that I don't like in his own manga waaaaa!
Dude, are you fucking serious?
The "darkness" of the series is the subject matter at hand in this specific discussion, why in the Hell would I bring up everything ELSE that I hate about this series? Do you want me to? For fuck's sake, don't try to belittle my opinion just because you're only seeing one part of it in a discussion about that one fucking part.
I also hate the shallow characters (3 characters aside: Tatsumi, Bors, and Esdese), I hate that characters die before they matter, I dislike the action- it's kind of uninteresting, I don't like how predictable it is, the story is not all that engaging.
Bwuh, opinions! I also hate how needlessly dark it is. Give me a fucking break.
>Akame Ga Kill threads ruined forever because of the anime
It really is like SnK
I'm ignoring the doctor because athough I'm positive he used only prisoners for his experiments, he still did fairly edgy human experiments on them. I'm not debating him.
>several arc villains
What arc villains. There were the 3 beasts and jaegars. Like I said, the lesser villains were pimps and loan sharks, etc. Shit that still happens TODAY.
And Esdese isn't weird in that respect. A guard would treat a prisoner like shit, but would respond amiably to a fellow guard. It's the same shit. She only tortures prisoners, and she makes sure the citizens are protected.
Notice how the populace are always in awe of her rather than running away from her. When it was announced she would be guarding the capital everyone exclaimed it'd be peaceful again.
So again, you can't count Esdese or Justice, because as much as I hate Justice, she's a product of her environment and loves the citizens and as I said would be willing to die protecting them. Fucked in the head yes, but also a product of her environment.
He is probably the one shitting up the thread anyways..
Yes, but using that as a basis for saying AgK is the edgiest shit on the planet on par with Elfen Lied is straight retarded, hypocritical, and a glowing reminder of shitposting, IRC, and the likes.
Sasuke got along with his allies too
No he didn't, now you're bullshitting.
It's closer than most other series, doesn't help that it isn't well written either.
No more tears brother, only dreams
Remember Anon, you can always ignore shitposters. But of course you will grab the bait like you always do don´t you?
It's edgier than Elfen Lied. Elfen Lied was just gory.
There was chapter one, the omake, there was that superior of justice, and I'm pretty sure one other group and I VAGUELY recall someone/a monster murdering a pregnant lady and thinking "gosh, that was unnecessary". So, add that stuff to your acknowledged stuff.
I still hate Justice because she is not the only product of her environment. If it can create people like Akame, who was notorious in the past for her efficacy, then why am I supposed to think Justice was hunky dory?
As for Esdese I also recall her totally murdering entire villages because war, or whatever, which actually is really fucked up and, to put it lightly, frowned upon in human history. I may, of course, be misremembering that but I recall it being a main reason behind why the leader chick with the metal arm decided to join the resistance.
>Akame Stabs Tatsumi
>"WTF Protag Dies on Episode 1, Dropped!!" threads
>"Scher is 10/10 waifu" Scher dies :^)
It's nice meeting you /a/
All of Sasuke's allies love him. He genuinely got along with Naruto and left him because he needed to get stronger. Even his new crew still goes out of their way to support him.
It´s always one dude or 2. if people where actualy able to ignore bait, /a/ would be a better place.
I dunno, wasn't the whole point of Elfen Lied about how humans will always hate what's different from them, and hate cruelly? Also that humans are, in general, really fucked up?
I wouldn't know I just know from clips and pages I've seen/read and get that impression.
this. Somebody answer this man so I can go to another thread
This shit is irrelevant, but pre-time skip Sasuke got along very well with others after losing some of his edge. Post time-skip last I had read he was a massive shit to his comrades. I have not read the series in a long time, but apparently he is a good guy again now so who even cares.
Yeah that was sort of the plot of the manga.
The anime however was just an extremely mediocre adaptation that relied on its gore shockfactor. Akame ga kill will meet the same fate.
Making it edgy would be reveling in it which it isn't. As I said, even his coworkers find him disgusting. It's a reminder of the trash you can find there. It doesn't mean those in power would necessarily agree with those methods. It's just that those in power turn a blind eye to whatever methods the people who keep them in power decide to use.
I can almost guarantee the prime minister doesn't care for 99% of the shit that happens and most of it probably isn't his cup of tea, but he pretends as if they don't exist because those are the people helping to make sure he stays in power.
Again, this is no different than what currently happens in real life, and what has historically happened. It's like you forgot the extent to which blind eyes were turned during the inquisition, crusades, etc because monarchs wanted the support of whoever they could get.
This isn't any edgier than history.
AgK portrays select few characters as depraved minds, but presents the greater evil which allows those lesser evils to occur as the simple, relatable, historically accurate, and currently significant permissibility licentious acts so long as a party maintains power.
it's still not announced but people think its an anime. It could be a VN, a LN spinoff, a fucking video game for fall we know. But registering a domain called akame.tv is more or less an anime. It could be both!
I understand it as something that relies too much on shock value and "darkness" as appeal. It certainly applies to AgK.
Well then you are out of luck. The thing you call darkness is something the author happened to want to put in his story along other things. The same about the shallow characters and whatever else you find flawed in this series. Authors can't always cater to all your preferences, sorry. If you truly don't like so many things about it why don't you just stop reading it and get out of here? you know, like normal people do when they find something unpleasant. You are certainly just shitting a thread of a series that in previous times was nice and fun and I won't give you another reply.
the shitposters will outnumber us 10:1. Even legit posters will be caught in the aura of shitposting and every thread will go down in flames. then, we shall rise from the ashes after the anime ends
Oh fuck, it has already begun. The shitposter floodgates have opened, the threads are dead. It was nice knowing you all, Akame bros. It was fun while it lasted. At least we can hopefully enjoy the anime together, even if we can't enjoy the threads.
>This isn't any edgier than history.
Generally speaking throughout history inhumanity is met with vehement resistance. I'm not talking small bands, I am talking upheavals of government and toppling of nations, which hasn't happened in the AkG verse despite it being common knowledge that anyone who isn't poor is utterly fucking terrible (okay not everyone, but nearly everyone). Often still, cruelties of humanity tend to get regulated to the battlefield and the aftermath of war, not the state itself. Certainly, horrors within the nation itself by the nation itself do happen but how widespread and horrible it is in AkG is exactly what separates AkG as fiction from reality.
Also, while it may present only a few particularly horrible people, the idea is that many, many people like them exist and that is why other people are fighting. Of course I can't cite anything directly but I recall them all but saying that that was just how the empire was: cruel to the downtrodden.
We know. It's like a force of nature.
>Authors can't always cater to all your preferences
When I read/watch/play anything I hold it to some kind of standard and if that standard is not met I will either scorn it or ironically enjoy it. I don't see what's wrong with hating something, if it's perfectly alright to like something as well. It's naive to think that anyone who hates something is just being a whiner, rather than being someone who takes the series for what it is and evaluates it just the same as anyone else. Furthermore, I don't see the problem with opposing opinions on a site as prone to opposing opinions as 4chan.
But you won't give me another reply. Of course. I'm merely "shitposting", and you're merely full of shit.
We need an anti shitposters pasta like the log horizon threads did to avoid SAO enablers. It certianly worked for them.
>Generally speaking throughout history inhumanity is met with vehement resistance. I'm not talking small bands, I am talking upheavals of government and toppling of nations
It didn't happen over night in history and it isn't happening over night in AkG.
And the resistance is you know, the fucking huge revolution army that's gathering in the south? Like you know the entire fucking plot of this manga?
So you mean the chapter that painted the setting.
Granted but still an omake.
He was nothing more than a notorious petty criminal. He did normal criminal things. He was just absolutely notorious for them.
And justice was disillusioned and never taught other wise. It was too late for her. She never saw anything that happened behind the scenes. She never even knew about her own master.
Esdese buried an insurgency under the empire's orders. It was an assertion of power to prevent future cases. This has historically happened several times with super powers making examples of one or two groups to lessen the likelihood and ferocity of other resistance. It was perfectly normal then, and you can't judge her actions through a retrospective lens. You have to realize she's living in a war period. What the US did in the middle east is only slightly different from what she did.
I don't understand why one anon who reads the series is even arguing with someone that hasn't even read half of it.
>defending this steaming turd by bringing up history.
It's how you knpw they're desperate
To survive we need to focus on spoiler, release chapter and maybe zero threads then ignore the rest until the anime ends
make stealth threads using characters that wont ever show up in the anime as the OP post.
>Thread already goes to shit even before they officially announced the animu.
Last I read it was small and relatively weak, sticking to assassinations. Also, I was under the impression that the empire had long been corrupt, so it's even more bizarre that it's taken this long for anyone to try and thwart them.
>So you mean the chapter that painted the setting.
Something wrong with that? Isn't the setting kind of important? Isn't the whole series about the cruel, cruel world and the few who dare to challenge it? And oh, how cruel it is.
If Justice is actively participating WITHIN the scenes, how is she so ignorant? How is she so high level, and yet she happens to miss so much? How did she not even perceive the cruelty of her superiors and the doctor who modified her? Furthermore, how does fucking WAVE live with all this? Bors is right there spreading the word that it's awful work and yet no one *gets* it? It's incredibly hard to believe so, like I said, it ends up being something you just have to believe.
Perhaps you're right on Esdese, as I honestly can't remember events clear enough to argue against that. For what it's worth, I liked her character enough that I don't find THAT hard to believe.
They probably came together. A shitposting pair.
From what I've read it is pretty much.
>This series is bad because it does things that I don't like and doing things I don't like are not within my standards
>The series is just doing things you don't like, that doesn't make it bad and those same things are justifiable within the story's setting and due to the characters.
It's a stupid argument to begin with really.
Maybe something like >>100274108 proposers would be better. I can't come up with something useful though.
>upheavals of government which isn't happening in AgK
>the entire premise is the uprising
What are you even saying. Do you think the empire is openly inhumane? Night Raid isn't the revolutionary army. They aren't even an assassination squad, they're a reconnaissance squad, who happen to be mercenaries and take side jobs as hired hands to support themselves and as a cover.
The actual revolutionary army hasn't stormed in because they're waiting for a prime opening to take out the minister, because like real life one competent general can make even the most regimented revolutionary army seem like shit.
Remember Napoleon? It'd be an utter fucking waste to charge in while the prime minister can leave undetected and the army gets half decimated for no reason.
Not only that but did you miss the part where regions all over the empire are rebelling? The very first seen we see Esdese in was when she was returning from silencing a rebellion.
We don't see the rebellion happening because our point of view isn't from the generic army view, it's from the silent view of the dishonorable work that goes into making a revolution possible.
Well, it turns out you can't read. I suggest you go back to school, or perhaps clear the cloud of bias from your head, since apparently your comprehension is fucked.
You know that you can shit up threads by making incredibly long and drawn out arguments with yourself?
I've done it once. That was a long time ago, though. I feel pretty bad about it now.
That pasta saved the Log threads a lot of suffering.
edgy is what is cool in anime that and tits evrerywhere so yeah this anime will be the new shingeki
that only works for LH because it actually has good writing and character depth. You're not getting that out of AgK.
How do you anti shitpost?
Do you make a mass of incredibly low quality bait threads so that all of them get reported en masse?
>Do you think the empire is openly inhumane?
How is it that everyone who isn't a newcomer seems to know that everyone rich/influential is inhumane if the empire is not "openly inhumane". It is possibly the worst kept secret I've ever encountered in fiction.
Anyway, I have to say you're right about everything else. I honestly forgot the significance of Night Raid and the existence of a greater revolutionary force. As I recalled, they were the force. I was wrong, sorry.
Ah this makes sense, one anon already worked hard on his arguments so all he is doing now is copy and pasting. What dedication, honestly.
Yeah, I was a huge asshole back then during the Infinite Stratos vs Korean Zombie shitflinging war. I'm pretty sure you remember how that ended up.
You're so paranoid it hurts. You're so afraid of any discussion even vaguely negative that you wear blinders to it, not even acknowledging that the one opposing you is willing to consent on points. At least there are not many like yourself, else I'd lose faith in the world.
Why do you morons even reply?
Sure is edgy
Anyone arguing for the sake of being a cunt is just fucking pathetic and the people taking their oh so masterfully woven bait are almost as bad.
We're talking about a damn ching chong comic book here people, not the fucking literary works of Plato or some shit.
inb4 bait level 10,000,000
I just ignored those threats once shit flinging started.
When did edgy become anything with any sort of dark atmosphere, generally fucked up shit, death and gore and not just a character trying too hard to be an asshole and scorn the entire world, have no friends and be a loner?
Haven't seen an "edgy" character in Akame Ga Kill, really. Nor would I say the series as a whole is "edgy" either.
the problem is that the manga has shit for world building, which is why you forget the significance of Night Raid. We know jackshit about them since we haven't even seen the real organization yet.
Wave is a horrible character though. He has an idea of what's going on but he drones on and on about how he has an obligation to his master who wanted him to serve the empire.
There's a reason he's been relegated to jobber status. He doesn't last 3 seconds before he's thrown miles from the ring.
As I said, justice is disillusioned. She's been conditioned to think that she's doing the right thing. She'd have to personally verify the claims put against the people she's eliminating. i.e. Watching an officer kill an innocent, and then have the blame be pinned on a person she knows was innocent from the beginning. Only then would she start questioning and she might even think it was a fluke and he was just a shitty officer. And she has no right to do that. She'd probably be eliminated if she ever did ask questions. Remember, she was fucking 22, note the "was", she's dead now. After 22 years of your life believing one thing it's hard to doubt it. She was only promoted recently after she became the only person to control Koro. She hasn't been involved in the behind the scenes long enough to even have the questions to ask. Bors has though, so he knows. Ran's motivations are sketchy and it's been recently shown that he may be against the empire. Wave was also never in the capital so he is still new to the corruption, and probably change his mind after he repays his debt.
Fuck, so the anime is really happening? Well RIP in peace AGK threads.
No one knows yet.
Yep, it's edgy shit for teenagers.
>wave is a horrible character
No, Wave is a joke character, he's not supposed to be serious. He even blasts off Team Rocket style.
I can't understand why people think this manga has a dark atmosphere when people are making jokes half of the time, sometimes even in combat. Even Esdese makes lighthearted comments.
what's project one?
Truly the KLK of anime.
Honestly it just read like a poorly written character to me. I understood her "why", I got her motivations for following the empire, I just think they're bullshit in the face of what we know and see. Really, to me the only way to actually explain it in a way that makes sense is to ignore the whole conditioning thing and chalk it up to her being insane, and she sure displays many moments of insanity (though, to counter that she also has very lucid and caring moments when those she cares about die, which is dumb). It's just like, you mentioned her age, but people older than her and more in the shit completely broke free. So it's like, fuck this. It feels like a contrivance for the sake of creating a character who's ludicrously cruel. I mean Hell, whenever she smiled in battle it was so retardedly over the top evil-looking. I don't know what else to think but that the author created her for dark purposes and fucked up in trying to make her sympathetic.
Well I hope that it doesn't. It has all the ingredients to suffer what SnK went through and more. I also don't want to see all the shitty landwhale cosplays that would come out.
Oh, I guess Sengoku Rance is now edgy shit for teenagers according to you.
No it's totally mature man. It's not little kids stuff so they're totally adults for enjoying such mature content
>It has all the ingredients to suffer what SnK went through and more.
I doubt that, but we will see.
The manga itself all but states that it has a dark atmosphere. It just has lighthearted moments so that they're not too overbearing, like a poorly written Berserk.
>inb4 but Berserk is poorly written
>read some of this shit
>less edgy than full metal alchemist
you faggots must come from a mormon compound
Romeo Tanaka VN with Minatosoft
AgK must be really bad if you have to compare it to masturbation material.
>babies pretending their edgy grimdark shonen deserves good threads on /a/
I-its deep and mature undernearth all the gore fetishism guys, i swear!
It really doesn't. SnK blew up because it lacked what most anime had and yet was still entertaining. It won people who didn't like anime and people who did like anime alike. AkG has too many typical tropes (mainly, fanservice) to blow up in the same way. Plus it's TOO dark. Kinda like Elfen Lied, actually.
>How is it that everyone who isn't a newcomer seems to know that everyone rich/influential is inhumane if the empire is not "openly inhumane"
This is admittedly one of the faults with the writing. You could argue that it's because all the characters we see are characters that would be exposed to it because of the nature of their line of work, but that'd be a shitty shitty argument because its clear the capital folk live in poverty as well.
My best guess would be that it's a situation of they don't know how bad they have it, and if they do, they just shut up about it because they don't have the power to change it. Country bumpkins like Tatsumi, Wave, Esdese, half of night raid, etc who grew up away from the empire weren't subject to it's cruelty every day. They were more removed and while life wasn't extravagant, they had a sense of self governance etc because of how far away they were. Coming to the capital made a difference because they had someplace to compare it too. People raised right in the belly of the empire though, like Akame, Serieux, Boss Najenda, Kurome, etc thought that was simply life, and can't possibly see it as meriting a revolution because while it might be unfair, they never saw an example of humane treatment anyway. It also appears that it's this PM that truly made it horrible because he's been in power for countless years because the true emperor is a shota.
It's a pretty long winded explanation but eh. I think it's just a gap in the writing.
> Both had "Kill" in the title
> People will ask: "Is AgK related to KlK?"
>just masturbation material
It's basically Naruto for edgemasters
except Elfen Lied is popular as fuck
>Viewing it as anything else
I bet you enjoyed tsukihime
Here's my VA wishlist. Any improvements?
Your explanation is probably the author's intent. You could get really philosophical about that, offering the point that humans may inherently abhor cruelty to other humans by other humans, but that gets into human nature and morality and that is always a silly argument. For what it's worth, that explanation fits, even if it makes the manga seem pretty damn stupid.
Everything. Shit looks bad.
To non-anime fans?
I honestly don't know, I am honestly asking that question.
Like I said. If you dislike Sengoku Rance, you have utterly shit taste.
Come back in another thread once the shit posters leave.
I can't feel the weight when you like AgK
Looks great except for Yuki Kaiji as Tatsumi. That guy needs to go.
True. But if it still receives enough publicity and funding to becoming the main shonen series of the season, it'll still blow up. With episode one probably being Schere chopping up that girl to pieces, I'd say chances are likely that it'll attract a large audience.
Kaji is perfectly fine. Like anyone said before, when he yells Incursio, it's bone-chilling.
The shitposters will never leave again, I fear
Yuki Kaiji is a necessary evil for sales
The Justice-fags' return
They will, they always do depends if they get bored or not.
Things you don't like that others like.
Am I being rused here?
Every time a chapter comes out we have a nice thread discussing what happened or what may come to pass.
But now that an anime was announced this is now a "babies first grimdark, edgemaster flex" title?
I'm agreeing with you though.
Oh no, I definitely agree. I feel that the author probably just wanted some extreme justice character that he could go nuts with and the justification for her character came after. That being said, while she isn't much on her own, she certainly did add a touch of something infuriating to the manga, and a completely over the top character. I mean she's made of weapons. Her womb is probably guns, and the artist certainly enjoyed himself drawing her.
Try not to look too deep into it, it's obviously not exactly trying to win a pulitzer prize.
Manga threads were scarce so no one gives a fuck.
If an anime is coming out people will have more motivation to tell you what they think of it. it's shit for edgy teens
Nigga, when you play rance, you don't play it for the H-Scenes. You fast forward through the H-Scenes.
My only regret in life is not participating in more AgK threads up until now. I'll never know what I missed, because they'll invariably be full of shitposting from now on.
Well duh, the title is Akame ga Kill!, not Tatsumi ga Kill!
>inb4 the anime studio swapped their roles & made Akame the main character instead.
Ignore this threat. I guess someone got bored.
I'm sorry for you. You should've been there when Chelsea got her head chopped. Shit was great.
It's something I've come to describe as the "anime-only effect".
I have come to find that most of the shitposters are anime only faggots and haven't even read the source material.
They're just spouting bullshit to fit in.
>the artist certainly enjoyed himself drawing her
Which returns to what I consider his indulgence of villainy, but I'm dropping that. Honestly, he succeeded too well in making her unlikable, and when he tried to make the reader care about her I distinctly remember raging. God, she was such a cunt. People loving her didn't help.
When I look back on it, I actually did enjoy this series for a while and ended up dropping it due to my inability to handle all of what I considered bullshit. I kind of wish the author would have just reigned stuff in, and maybe been less damn predictable. Also, it would have been nice if the title character were actually relevant.
Or when Mein cut down Justice the threads were like a party
There's too many evildoers in this thread.
We need JUSTICE!
I for one will appreciate all the gif I get out of this
It's a shit series that sells on shock factor. I'd be surprised if it sold more than 2 crime edges
Great taste, I lover her and Esdese.
Let's not pretend that the threads have at the very least been over-half dominated by waifu-faggotry and WHO'S GONNA DIE NEXT? And that is not recently, that is like a year or two back when the series was gaining popularity. It has only gotten worse, though I'm sure any semblance of worthy discussion will be down the gutter once the anime airs. Pity, or whatever.
That day was true justice
As much as I hate Justice, even she doesn't deserve the landwhale cosplays that would inevitably come with an anime.
I would much rather this than comparisons to SnK because of the Jaegars.
What does "justice" mean to the Japanese, exactly? I get the feeling there's some cultural dissonance, since this girl used the word like it meant "anything I do is justice. ANYTHING.", whereas I'd typically consider justice something like "well reasoned punishment".
I know I fucking love this chapter
Mein has really nice legs.
I'm pretty sure he meant the girl having the sword, black+red in her hair etc in OP pic.
Very shit. Mamoru Miyano or Bust.
>even if it makes the manga seem pretty damn stupid
So you know, most of us who read it don't think it's manga with literary elements of biblical proportions. We read it because it's fun, the characters are fun, and it's great seeing some of the interactions. Most of us have been a little on "edge" recently because of all the shitposting but in all honesty I don't think have of us really even care that much for the gore. It's not the second coming of christ, it's just fun, and we like it cause it's fun and the fact that you can't shit on justicefags anywhere else.
This manga needs more Mein fanservice.
Don't worry guys next week it's confession time
Fun's subjective, I don't think the cyclical nature of character introduction/death in AgK was fun, that's all. Well, that and I just plain didn't care for the majority of characters. I grew tired of it. Maybe it got better but whatevs.
I'll admit I am pretty mad at people who like this series since I invested more time than usual into it before descending into rage and calling out whoever it was that gave me its name, so I'm not blameless, but I'm not trolling whenever I speak ill of it. I do enjoy talking about it and trying to get what it is about this series that people like, and also calling bullshit on people who seem to think the series isn't what it is, or is what it isn't. I'd like it if people wouldn't get fed up and ignore any other kind of opinion, though, since I find that close mindedness unfit for this board.
>it's dying time
You really should be able to tell if a thread is a shitpost general from the OP.
An anon has been making decent AgK threads for the countdown. Not shitpost garbage like this.
it didn't work, for them, the problem is they avoid any reasoning about their show having flaws and things that their pastah doesn't cover they say, it's irrelevant or still a mistery.
I know cause even though I like both SAO and LH, they just ignore things they can't explain
Suck my dick, man. That's what you single out in the entire post? How about you fuck off, Christ.
>Plot twist: the bear is still alive & proceed to eat Mein before she confess.
It's a shonen manga, it isn't meant to be deep or anything just entretaining
How about you fuck off.
>Last I read it was small and relatively weak, sticking to assassinations. Also, I was under the impression that the empire had long been corrupt, so it's even more bizarre that it's taken this long for anyone to try and thwart them.
what is Mexico. Cuba and many many other countries in the world, people would love a revolution,but don't have the means or firepower to carry out one.
as we speak, the Mexican goverment as sent the military to Michoacan to eliminate the threat of armed civs that have taken justice into their hand and thwarted druglords living in their cities.
you gotta live in the real world anon, life aint rose colored, there is bad shit happening everywhere all the time and real justice is usually a fairy tale.
>trying to get what it is about this series that people like
Man this excuse is getting old if you don't like it, just leave find something better to do. Why now? This could have been done much earlier but it's strange that just after the anime speculation you decided to pop in huh.
Now that's horse shit, shonen is an incredibly wide demographic that holds within it a multitude of subject matter, it's not impossible to be shonen and also deep. Hell, Aku no Hana is. Just one example, don't jump on me.
It's not impossible to be more than just entertaining, plus to think it's just that and also defend it as though it's more is weird. Also, I hate to bring it up again, but I really have to wonder what's so entertaining about dwelling on excessive gore and depravity. I can see the appeal of a lot else, grudgingly, though that in particular is really tiresome. I'm told in this very thread that it gets less so, though.
I hope mein gets one shot immedietly after
The artist and the author are not the same person. I say the artist enjoyed drawing her because she's easily the most batshit character and he got to draw all her extremely insane faces and insane shit like gun tongues, bazooka arms, rocket launcher shoulders, and all manners of ludicrous nonsense. I'd have fun drawing all that too. Especially the faces. Fucking hell the faces. The author's(not the artist) favorite character is mein, the pink tsundere girl.
>if the title character were actually relevant
It's a deconstruction of the titular character genre.
It's also certainly gotten less predictable now, but also more over the top, in a fun way I think. The deaths are nowhere near as telegraphed now, and the shounen training party has stopped.
As an example, mein has been carrying massive deathflags for the past 10 chapters and she keeps adding to them and getting away with it. Instead a cbaracter who wasn't supposed to get the axe did, BUT, it was much more justifiable than a majority of the past deaths and actually made sense, and was rather necessary. The shock was probably that only one died from the encounter.
Also, just to show how the series isn't "mature mangos for mature patricians such as myself" and rather for people who like fun, Esdese learned how to freeze time, and her justification for learning such a completely OP skill was that "it was made to make sure Tatsumi could never run away again" which was said in what was supposed to be a completely serious fight. When the antagonist love interest learns to stop time for the beloved, it's time people stop thinking the fans are arguing it's tolstoy.
I've been posting in threads about AgK since I dropped it two years ago. Eat a dick.
I ask in the off chance that someone can convince me that I didn't waste my time, and maybe get me to pick it up again, that's the honest truth. Also, it entertains me when I get people who give genuine responses and not half-assed shit like you. I like proper debate.
and here you are wasting more time
Heh, I really hope no one convinces you. I sure won't try.
>The artist and the author are not the same person
Huh, wasn't aware of that. Kind of makes a lot of things make sense.
It's kinda nice to know that the series went more into the territory of absurd rather than debauched fluff. I guess I should have seen that coming after that doctor turned into a flesh colossus. Maybe that kind of juxtaposed silliness with seriousness really would have done the manga better. It felt a bit far up its own ass, frankly, so getting more genuinely lighthearted and not awkwardly lighthearted should only do good. Still hesitate to pick it up again, though. I just don't want to bother reading through Whatsherface McNot-Headphones' arc and watching her die and getting her head stuck on some thing.
It's 2 am, and we're on 4chan. We're all wasting time, one way or another.
Holy fuck this thread is terrible. Well, we had fun while it lasted. Good luck dealing with the retards because I'm not going to bother. I hope the anime is at least decent.
Again, everybody's on edge now. Everybody assumes shitposting with reason. I like to think not everybody's a shitposter, but, it's essentially what >>100276830 said.
The series became a lot less cyclical after Chelsea's death, the writing's become more coherent but more over the top, the arts gotten better, it's less predictable, and we're starting to see some effect of what Night Raid's been doing in the real world. Not only that but the world's expanded with the invasion of a western empire, the introduction of a new faction that isn't necessarily sided with either of the current factions and may force cooperation between NR and Jaegars, and just general improvement. And one character who was thought dead was never shown dead and was reintroduced much much later, further distancing itself from the somewhat repetitive format it was using before. I'm saying all this under the assumption you aren't rusing me, anon. Please don't let me down and make me look like a fool.
>It's 2 am, and we're on 4chan. We're all wasting time, one way or another.
sure we are, but I'm not asking people to tell me if I'm wasting time or wasted time reading something.
Akame ga kill?
is this sequel of kill la kill?
can't wait to see justice kill that slut schere
>I really have to wonder what's so entertaining about dwelling on excessive gore and depravity
Well that's just the thing. To me, I just don't think it dwells on that too much. I like moments like this, and it's not like they are uncommon.
I feel stupid for looking at this manga through the shiunen lens constantly because all I can think f is "Who's got an even higher powerlevel than Esdese?"
Or maybe Esdese will join up with the protag because she's too yandere for him.
Don't worry, Anonymous, you have much worse to worry about from actual fans of this series rather than people who hate it and don't ever resort to petty, easy, troll posts.
Keep thinking I, alone, herald the ruination of these threads.
Nor am I. I never mentioned my intentions until you provoked me, and even then I never outright asked anyone to convince me.
PSYCHE I WAS TOTALLY SHITPOSTING THE WHOOOOLE TIME
For real though, I'm surprised to hear that anyone would actually say the series showed improvement, since that means you're acknowledging that it had faults and, honestly, when a manga goes to shit it's not like the readers will hesitate in letting that be known. If you say it's gotten better, and for those reasons, then I'll believe it.
I bet you that they change the asian dude that gets kicked in the face by Esdese into an American
Dude is Asian?
That would be funny.
It's got its fair share of those moments, so that's reasonable. Question, though: does Mein ever become MORE than a tsundere? I've gotten the impression that she's been given much more focus lately, but last I read there was nothing to her character aside from typical tsundere whatever, which was a problem I had with a bunch of characters- just walking archetypes.
not right now, but you admmited to posting in plenty threads about that.
>I ask in the off chance that someone can convince me that I didn't waste my time,
I meant that I ask why they like it, not that I ask for them to convince me. Most of the time I don't even directly ask at all, I just post why I dislike it, which usually results in a minor shitstorm similar to hitting a beehive.
It's a prequel about Ryuuko's Mom Akame.
this is why I don't want an AgK anime: I don't want shitty tumblr fanbase.
Mein is starting to get more focus now, we have to wait to see where it goes.
I mean sure she's tsun though showing much more dere in later chapters but that isn't her whole character. That would be ignoring how she came to be the arrogant girl she is through living with discrimination from a young age.
It's also in the little things. Like Mein wearing chelsea's hairband after she died, and tiny things like that. I don't think anybody can honestly say it didn't have faults. I mean the author is the author of majikoi, it's his first venture into dark fantasy, of course he'll make mistakes. I just think we like to avoid discussing them in threads like these so that we don't encourage shitposters and give them more fuel.
That being said, yeah. The manga started seriously distancing itself from it's previous versions after Chelsea's death. I don't know if it was supposed to signify a change in how night raid decided to operate or what not, but it's become decidedly less gory and death centered, and focused more on it's tension building and character building. Immediately after chelsea's death is when they introduce the character that supposedly dies but doesn't actually.
>does mein ever become more than a tsundere
She's dropped the Tsun.
She's also about to confess next chapter..
Tatsumi also got a few character improvements.
oh shit, she's gonna die. FUCK
Well we all thought she was going to get killed by Justice and she managed to avoid that, you never know
Rabac has somehow miraculously managed to avoid death despite all of the trouble he's gotten himself into as well
oh my she's so cute :3
she is a slut
he has deathflag immunity due to him being the deathflag character. Unless he bumps into a sewing teigu or somebody steals the giant scissors again
You make it sound interesting, frankly. Hrm, if it's only this one arc that I'd need to get past to see a change of pace it could be worth it.
As for Mein, that's good to hear. I was worried this was going to be that sort of manga where no one's really given much of anything to give them more substance. I mean yeah, quite a few characters had backstory but it nearly always felt shallow. Plus, when the character's a tsundere you're starting on a bad foot I think.
but the series is called Akame ga Kill not Mein ga Kill, that means that Mein is just in the way for Akame, thus she needs to disappear.
also, sudden focus on a character is also a typical deathflag.... well anyway... damn, hope theres a shitstorm if she goes under
Akame has zero love interest relations with Tatsumi at all. If anything Esdese is the main love interest.
>implying Akame won't die by her own sword
Honestly the characters are interesting and entertaining, but they're not very complex. Then again I like the manga because of the simple likable cast, cool fights (which get better and better in latest chapters), and the nice art. Also it looks like we're getting closer and closer to meeting the Revolution Army since agents have appeared in the latest chapters.
Kurome is pure maiden.
I hope there's some high quality waifu in the Revolution Army.
Raba also gets some time to shine at the end of the chelsea arc, and it's proven once again that tatsumi has a ways to go before he gets to everyone else level.
Well, if you do decide to pick it back up, you have Suu's cooking waiting for you.
I'd be disappointed if there weren't. Also this image I see with game listed, am I seeing things or is there an Akame ga Kiru: Highschool Edition VN in the works?
Spoilers the Western Kingdom are alchemists that modify their own bodies as opposed to using teigus.
We suppose this is why Mein is pink, and we speculate that the Western Kingdom's people are all pink as well.
The only thing I wisn didn't happen in the story was killing off Justice. Her power was way too interesting to be killed off in the half assed way the author did it. And fuck, the dog was practically the Villain's mascot.
I wonder if that anon really is going to pick it back up.
He seemed like a cool guy.
>And fuck, the dog was practically the Villain's mascot.
He's the artist's mascot now.
>The leader of the Revolutionary Army is a rich bitch ojou-sama
I would love that so much, instant waifu.
I hope so as well, things have been really picking up in the story since the Religion arc began.
>the leader of the revolutionary is mein's mother
But why would you want them competing over the same guy? The milf would always win.
You can use batoto.net, you irrelevant fried shrimp.
I just hope the writer doesn't end up pairing Tatsumi with Akame in the end. Him and Mein have pretty dan good chemistry with one another, same with Leone (even though I know that'll never happen). I'll have mad respect to the duo though if it's Esdese end.
I know you mean this guy >>100278869
I'll settle this once and for all.
"Edgy" according to /a/: dark, gorish action filled with characters that spout cool lines during fights, which clearly attracts individuals of ages ranging between 11 and 19.
Nah I prefer my manga original and free from shitty scanlations. Step it up, senpai.
I did. Sorry for calling you a fatty, high cholesterol, fried crustacean.
It's okay, we cool.
I reread the manga today, and I've noticed that story really takes a lighter turn when Aniki is fighting the 3 beasts. The excessive gore is really only shown in the early first 10 chapters for set up to allow the reader to know just how fucked up the world of AgK really is. It slackens though after and doesn't beat it into ya past that point since the reader already knows what's going on. So when the anime comes the "edgy" should only be an issue for the first 5 or so eps, until Tatsumi gets Incursio.
I thought the fanbase was full of shity edgy 13 year olds cursing each other out.
This is what /a/ told me. Why are you two getting along and apologizing to each other like civilized members of society.
As long as a studio that doesn't feed off GRIMDARK does it, we're safe
I'm looking dead at you I.G.
That's where you went wrong
I never believe what /a/ tells me, last time I did I ended up watching Gyo because everyone here told me it was a great adaption of one of my favorite stories from Junji. Boy was I wronged.
But /a/ would never lie to me.
Also after reading it again, gat dayum Najenda is moe. I can't believe it completely shot past me in my initial read through of the series.
We won't lie to you anon-kun, but that's because we're your only friends here. The rest are wolves anon-kun.
She also tight as fuck. Bitch, got a rockin' bod.
Nice, her, Esdese, andL Leone pack some heat. The artist also makes the more slender girls look delicious as hell as well. I can't wait for all the fanart that'll come.
This is how these things start. I've seen enough japanese incest hentai animays to see where this is heading.
So will FATALPULSE get on top of Akame ga Kill?
Another anon said, "I welcome it."
>Delicious Night Rape doujins of Akame, Leone, and Najenda with ahegaos
Ohhh man, I hope for this so badly.
Don't you want to believe in your Onii-chan, anon-kun?
>implying i was him
I'd never accept /a/'s lies as readily as he did.
I'll readily accept the both of you, and all of your stress. Trust your Onee-chan.
Weren't you a man just a while ago?
This sounds like a trap.