That was amazing. What a fantastic ending.
More people need to talk about this.
From what I've heard, the ending was very lackluster.
I'll talk about it when Hox starts posting it.
He won't. Have you checked his blog? The reasoning is since there's already a translation out there and he doesn't want a live typesetting thread that would be constantly ruined with spoilers.
The ending is kind of anti-climatic.
But I don't dislike it.
Also, is it translated yet? My japanese isn't that good yet so I didn't fully understand what was going on.
Damn those faggots. I want my usual Hox nights.
Meh. I've read better endings.
I mean, I loved everything else about it. OPP's probably one of my favorite manga now, but..eh, the ending just felt like time just ran its course.
Also, it kinda bugged me how Pun Pun didn't experience much, if any repercussions for his actions.
You have this massive karmic backlash building up from the moment he kills Aiko's mom and nothing happens. I mean, I guess I'm happy that Pun Pun got a happy ending, but he hates himself too much to really enjoy it and also there's no release for the dramatic tension.
Still waiting for Hox to scanlate the last volume
I'm still waiting for Despera, but that doesn't make my wishes come true.
I am still waiting for Dream Machine. Someone has to summon Kon's ghost.
Hum. Last I checked votes were like 20 for "yes" and 200-ish for "no". Now it's closer to 250 and 280, with 3 days left of voting. So make it happen, /a/. Just don't expect not to be spoilered before or during the thread, if you're one of the rare few who don't know about the ending yet.
I think it's possible. It'll take away a lot of the fun but I just won't read any suspicious posts by people that aren't Hox or maybe any of them. Spoiler pages are usually too small as thumbnails to recognize very much.
>Also, is it translated yet? My japanese isn't that good yet so I didn't fully understand what was going on.
I disagree. Punpun ends up accepting his life and enjoying it without pretense. Also, stuff does happen.
He almost killed himself out of guilt, and ended up on probation
Also, that scene where Sachi finds him, thank god, I though he was really going to die.
>Also, it kinda bugged me how Pun Pun didn't experience much, if any repercussions for his actions.
Did he ever? That faggot lived his whole life only caring about himself and never about the consequences of his actions, but he always got a free pass because the poor guy was "depressed."
why do people say Punpun got a happy ending?
what the hell?
did you not get that the whole manga's premise is hope and how the older you get the more you lose hope!?
did you guys just skim through it? how did you find the ending happy?
He lives. He has a family that loves him. He has friends. And he is comfortable in terms of his life.
Compare that to the shit he deals with in the manga, in particular volumes 11 to 13.
what's wrong with the ending the final chapter with the guy from his school was fucking perfect
true that but that still doesnt make it happy! people never seem to make much of the fact that he killed his inner self.
I got the impression that he is happu from the chapter where he talks to Aiko.
I loved the ending, the big problem I had with it was Punpun's whole character doing a 180 from an obssesive self absorbed depressed man into accepting everything after stabbing the dark spot away. Like it was waaaay to sudden. Also the dialogue for other characters such as Sachi and ect. felt too similar. Like the way she spoke about her own self defeating thoughts and Punpun's were just a little out of character and felt more like it was the author talking using the characters as mediums. Also Shimuzu losing his memory and not rememberng Seki was just bullshit. it also felt forced as hell. There is no reason for him to lose his memory other than to try and provoke an emotion, it has no purpose to the sidestory he has with Seki Other than that, loved the final volume
I don't think Punpun was or ever will be happy.
>Also Shimuzu losing his memory and not rememberng Seki was just bullshit. it also felt forced as hell. There is no reason for him to lose his memory other than to try and provoke an emotion, it has no purpose to the sidestory he has with Seki
Yes, I agree. That was kinda dumb.
>I don't think Punpun was or ever will be happy
Well, one of the points in the manga is how perfect happiness doesn't exist, and searching for such scenario only makes you suffer.
>Well, one of the points in the manga is how perfect happiness doesn't exist, and searching for such scenario only makes you suffer.
Yeah, perfect happiness doesn't exist. That is why I don't think the manga has a happy ending. I mean, some things turned out alright in the end but there is a lingering sense of bitterness about it I get every time I read it.
What you're mentioning are thing that only ALMOST happened. He ALMOST experienced retribution, but he didn't. That's what bugged me.
I don't think he really enjoys his life, though. He still keeps people at a distance (I don't like myself, so how could anyone else like me?) so he his condition hasn't really improved any.
I think that was part of it. He never really experienced the repercussions of his actions so he just kept fucking up throughout life without being to learn from it. It was almost like he was deprived of it.
>never really experienced the repercussions of his actions so he just kept fucking up throughout life without being to learn from it.
Different anon but could you give some examples? I have trouble remembering what youre referring to.
Well, the we have different opinions on what constitutes a 'happy' ending. I think his life and the lives of people close to me has been massively improved. He is finally living in comfort with himself. Yeah, there is sadness to it, but that is enough for me.
>He still keeps people at a distance (I don't like myself, so how could anyone else like me?) so he his condition hasn't really improved any.
Is that phrase in the ending? He does seem adjusted to living with Sachi and company. And it looks to me like was hung up on something during the duration of the manga, but now in the end he isn't anymore, though I cannot clearly put my finger on the concept.
>What you're mentioning are thing that only ALMOST happened. He ALMOST experienced retribution, but he didn't. That's what bugged me.
Hardly anyone experienced the consequences, take his uncle's wife, she raped him and told her husband a few years later and that was that, hell he even got a little stranged with his niece Pun pun, Sachi tried to manipulate Pun Pun and that led into nothing, he is with her at the end and probably helping raise her kid.
What I didn't like about the ending was that Asano let his irll problems work their way in the manga, he is even going to start a new manga with this bullshit as theme.
>she raped him
He implicitly gave consent, whether he regretted what happened afterwards is irrelevant.
By consent you mean when she mounted on top of him and started unzippping him in a single action? By all accounts that was rape, forcing oneself and not letting the other person say no is just that, she even felt bad s fuck after it was done
Well yeah, if a woman who's shorter and lighter and weaker than you mounts you and you just lay there with a rock hard erection, it's not rape.
all of asano's stuff is at least a little autobiographical
it was statutory rape iirc
It was a rape that broke my heart Midori was my favorite character before that chapter
Oh I know, its just that this mang ashowed how muh of a faggot Asano has become, in it the characters just acept how shitty their lives are and say that is how the world is, when most of the shit that happens to them is their goddamn fault
So, which one /a/?
which chapter does that happen again? I kind of don't remember it
Aiko is still my favorite
Aiko >>>> Midori > Sachi
The part they don't show in the manga is 2 years later Pun Pun finally kills himself. That's the true end.
I love it when people go "but Aiko is bad for Punpun" then lists reasons why Sachi is better and will save him. Aiko is made for Punpun since they are both miserable and Sachi can't save a man who refuses to change. By the last volume, Punpun's the one that decided to move on himself, hell it's what the volume does right. Sure Sachi gave him another life but the one who got over Aiko and decided to live a less absorbed life was Punpun himself. I think the events with Aiko and dealing with her death helped him realize that.. And Aiko is prettier
Daily reminder that punpun is transsexual propaganda.
>And Aiko is prettier
I agree with everything except for this. Female Asano looks best.
No, Asanos next manga will be transsexual propaganda
Natural beauty will always be better than an artificial one. Also somehow the bruises make her look even cuter, broken goods kind of cute.
Daily reminder your mom is transsexual propaganda.
Female Asano cheated with plastic surgery. Aiko represents natural beauty, a flower that bloomed in barren soil.
I agree with you, the ending was super satisfying. It was exactly how it should have ended.
Was it actually supposed to be that he didn't actually remember Seki? I just thought that he finally had given up on the relationship and was pretending not to remember
Nope, he doesn't remember Seki at all. You the the ship with Pegasus and everyone from the cult leaving to space representing that Shimuzu's memories have left him along with the lives of the other cult members. If I have to split hairs I would say that it's karma for Seki leaving behind the last person important to him (Shimuzu) to allowing things to get this far and in the end having an accident like memory loss.Still forced but at least Shimuzu didn't die
>More people need to talk about this.
You really need to lurk more.
We only have one thread every week.
> the ship with Pegasus and everyone from the cult leaving to space representing that Shimuzu's memories have left him along with the lives of the other cult members.
damn, why did I not realize the symbolism until now
Having no luck finding volume 13 on Google. Link would be really appreciated. Please help a brother out.
Come on, man...
Maybe it can be read as a way of grow up.
At the end, Seki and Shimizu's relationship was not healthy at all. And Seki, most of the time, liked to rely on the "handicapped" Shimizu.
It was similar to the relationship between Aiko and Punpun, sometimes irritating, sometimes the only thing they had to hold on because that relationship was the only condescending thing in their lives.
The strange thing about Shimizu's memory loss, was that he look like he was fine, aside the part about Seki (and maybe that wasn't a bad thing).
The ending was offensive and the biggest fuck you to the readers after Anno's work.
Very professional, Asano.
What a fucking queer faggot
Thank you based anon
>That faggot lived his whole life only caring about himself
That's not true at all. Even his father said that Punpun was unhappy because he wasn't selfish.
You know, recently I came in contact with this very interesting subject called "Positive Disintegration", where people go through depression and other hard times emotionally because they have the capacity to "go up" to a better of level of development. The whole theory has you going from the first level (using selfish desires/what society wants as motivation, most people are in this level and stay on it for the rest of their lives), second level (you are torn between what you want and what your family/peers want from you),third level (you start having problems because you're torn between what you think is right and what your family/peers/baser needs say that is right), fourth level (you are now thinking about what is right, are more stable emotionally), and fifth, which is when you are living your life according to values which you have chosen as "right".
I thought that maybe this could somehow be applied to Punpun, or the characters in the series. What do you guys think?