Do you think IS anime needs a complete reboot with a competent studio and a director who follows the source material faithfully?
Rebuild of Infinite Statos
Now with more Houki
No. I want IS to die off already. It just gets worse and worse as time goes on and season 2 has it on life support.
No, it needs to be Milky Holmes'd.
IS pls go
>It just gets worse and worse as time goes on and season 2 has it on life support.
Why do you think OP suggested a reboot in the first place?
Remove Ichika or make him female.
I think IS needs to stop being a thing in general.
It's so shitty I don't even want a reboot is the point I'm trying to make.
Just wait for the next worthless harem anime based on a LN.
Ichika originally was suppose to be a cross-dressing boy and the author scrapped that idea.
Making bank on life support
>Why is PC games art direction so dull and terrible?
Better, but still doesn't cut it.
Mahouka, Nourin, ImoCho and if you are willing to waive the "LN" part, Nisekoi.
Better yet, make him an XX male and actually explore what this means in terms of his health. Plus XX males generally have low sex drives, so you have an excuse for the harem where nothing ever happens.
Yeah, only for the first volume. Prepare for nosedive.
S2 was just so bad.
You should be waiving the LN part on ImoCho too. Nourin is apparently more of a BakaTest than a harem, if you can believe anons.
Because they need to be toned down to appeal to the Cawadoody aud-
Hey, I get the reference. LNs could be great but since faggot readers NEED the retard self-insert all they can be is generic haremshit.
Imagine the lore on the mechs and the specs and the battles the author would like to write about, but instead he MUST write about the worst character ever written being lusted at by a bunch of girls.
He has no mouth, and he must scream.
IS anime needs this
I've just started watching S2. Is it really that bad? I quite enjoyed S1, even if MC was a fucking retard in the truest sense of the word.
Laura, Cecilia and Charlotte best girls
And what is makes LN not such piece of shit like anime?
Every fucking time I see that pic as the IS girls wearing Super Sentai/Power Rangers belts.
Best girl - best house
God forbid we get a third season, I'd rather not they shove "BUY THE BD" spiel again with the terrible pacing and general garbage that was S2.
I still remember that last episode, and you do too. I know you do.
I know we will get another season when the author gets off his ass and writes another two or three volumes, but that's at least a good year and a half to two years from now.
Also nice to know that he finally decided to go SoL because he can't write to save his life and got really fucking lucky.
And BakaTest wasn't a harem?
Still, according to those poor souls that actually think (or pretend) this shit is good to read, it is a romantic triangle, with another girl falling for the generic male MC later on. It's a harem.
But is Nourin funny?
No, because IS is itself shit. It takes a great premise (a gender-based technology rift) and throws it away for harem antics and shounen shit.
If IS was about military/politics, it would've been a lot better. Also, throwing in an old pasta as a bonus.
>So, um, guys.
>>Women claiming 'War between men and women wouldn't last three days'.
>They're right, except it's backwards. Men would win this war.
>Consider the following:
>Shinonono Tabane is the only person who knows technology behind IS cores and can create them. There is only a very limited amount of IS cores currently distributed around the world (namely, 500+ , which were made in TEN FUCKING YEARS). With a discreet assassination of Shinonono Tabane, the only thing that would've been needed is quick destruction of IS cores, so nobody can reverse-engineer technology behind them. Only a few dozens of people at key positions in companies/universities/facilities that are researching IS and, let's say, a medium-sized nuclear bomb hidden on the premises of IS Academy is required to completely annihilate IS technology. Any average terrorist organization can pull this off, given enough preparation.
>What are your thoughts?
Too late, damage is done.
I liked S1 but S2 was a heap of shit, I only watched it because of Laura.
Nothing, the LN is shite as well, but it is many degrees better than the anime will ever be, that is certain.
A lot of good stuff was cut that was in the LN and Ichika is mysteriously less dense in it too(but only a fraction of a percent).
would that be just be mai-otome the manga ver
>any average terrorist organization can assassinate the world's most heavily guarded person and has access to nuclear weaponry
Of course not. IS has been nothing but garbage to begin with
I could not even finish season 1. Even tought I somewhat like Harems, this shit was too much. I felt that I was denigrating my self by watching this show.
Not so bad.
Also, in the military, there is no perfect weapon. Everything needs a counter.
The military should've developed weapons specifically designed to destroy IS, and do so safely: the IS should not be able to counterattack.
>It takes a great premise (a gender-based technology rift)
That's a pretty shitty premise though. The only people who would like it are crazy man hating feminists or retarded MRAs depending on which gender is depicted with the superiority. Sure, appealing to a crazy fringe can be profitable, just look at American military SciFi targeted at right wing reactionaries, but it's not going to have broad appeal nor will it generally be very good.
I have Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance anime and DAL S2 coming.
Could give less of a shit about IS anime.
I was thinking why hasnt the terrorist group invent some emp type weapon to drain the shield of the IS. Considering that they already have weapon that does that, MC's sword. Heck invent something that would disconnect the core from the unit
You're generalizing. No one cares which gender is depicted superior, as no one cares that it's gender-based. Replace different gender with different races/humanity and aliens/whatever, and it still remains to be all the same shit. Basically, what happens is that one side of the conflict is powerhouse, while other side of the conflict is subversive. It's a standard formula of balance in RTS/tactics/whatever.
Here is a link: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FactionCalculus
I think IS need more best girl. Pic related.
Can't wait for the BEST
>a bunch of shit that's completely irrelevant
The trouble is technology that only works for one gender is an inherently dumb concept. As such the only people who would watch it are those with a personal world view that supports an ideology of one gender over the other.
The source material is horrible to begin with.
Budget more for the fighting, give Ichika personality and remove the ability of the IS to fly and wham bam you have a decent series
Ever read "Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus"? There are plenty of (completely fictional and far-fetched, like all softcore sci-fi is) reasons for technology working only for one gender. And, as I said, it's all the same shit - if women were replaced with aliens, and men woud've been replaced with humanity, nobody would bat an eye.
Also, why don't you like TVTropes? It's like babby's first wiki that's actually easy to comprehend for anyone.
You do realize its a harem series, right?
I do not like tv tropes because it's a completely worthless place where autists worse than even here try to force their favorite shit into as many tropes as possible resulting in any actual understanding of them you might get to be drowned out in a wave of stupidity.
That they're targeting it at people who fit that description doesn't mean the premise isn't inherently shitty.
OK? Its just an excuse to put a boy in a school with only girls
>Hanne Davion and Melissa Steiner have united the two Great Houses of the Inner Sphere in a Friendship that suddenly upsets the balance of power among the stars. Though some hope this may bring an end to centuries of war, Maxine Liao of the Capellan Confederation has enlisted the aid of two highly placed Davion traitors to destroy Hanne Davion and the Federated Suns from both within and without. But in the distant star chambers of the Capellan March and Draconis Combine, the Warlords of Maxine Liao are honoring a different and more deadly vow: to wage an unholy war that threatens to rip asunder the vulnerable worlds of the Federated Suns.'
As Davion IS commander Andrea Redburn and her mercenaries streak into battle, an explosive clash of metal and women signals the return of a formidable foe. Interstellar legend Yorinaga Kurita has returned to stake her claim as the most bloodthirsty warrior of all. For both women it is do-or-die combat that could ensure the triumph of a glorious new alliance—or result in its total annihilation...
The MC needs to be removed. Srew the mecha shit. Let it be about Char and Laura being cute and doing cute things together
IS re-made by Xebec.
Could your dick handle it?
I still laugh at how S2 utterly gutted all enthusiasm for IS. In the period between S1 and S2 there were IS threads constantly, and now I barely ever see them and the ones I do see are complaining about how shit it is.
>Implying lesbian stuff has anywhere near more merchandise drawing power compared to hetero
>blaming the studio for IS being shit
Sorry to burst your bubbles, but IS itself is shit, no one can improve it.
Sunrise Studio 8 should do IS anime.
While we're at it how would people react to a Rosario + Vampire reboot only this time they actually stick to the source material.
Speaking of, was there more yuri fanservice after episode one in the second season?
It sells because of the girls. If they can adopt Choco style at least 80% I would be delighted though.
>mfw people want to reboot IS with more action
I don't think that's what the series was made for in the first place. If you want to move away from what it was originally intended for you'd have to change so much it wouldn't be IS anymore
>Because they need to be toned down to appeal to the Cawadoody aud-
>Hey, I get the reference. LNs could be great but since faggot readers NEED the retard self-insert all they can be is generic haremshit.
>Imagine the lore on the mechs and the specs and the battles the author would like to write about, but instead he MUST write about the worst character ever written being lusted at by a bunch of girls.
>He has no mouth, and he must scream.
Hahaha, you wish. He's gone on record stating that he hates writing the mecha parts of the series and would rather just write cute girls doing cute things all the time.
Seriously would you expect anything else from this fat fuck.
People need to realize that IS is just is what it is.
Think about it, if you strip out the story then you just have these mechs that make one gender above the other. No wars, no organizations like phantom task, none of that. IS can't just be a harem with harem antics and keep the IS. So you take away the IS, then what brings girls from all around the world? Why would Ichika, a guy, attend an all girl school? It wouldn't work.
So you need the story with the action and fighting. But if you go too deep with that, then you lose the harem aspect which it feels most of /a/ doesn't want. But you can't get rid of the harem aspect because that is IS' biggest selling point. People buy IS for the girls, they buy it for the lewd artwork and figures and all that. That only exists if there is harem antics and stupidity.
IS needs balance, which is very hard to achieve and it doesn't help the writer is bad. Look at MMOs that try to tackle PvP and PvE, constant changes to classes that fuck up one or the other. Which is why many MMOs focus on one. Balance is very hard to do and people just need to understand that.
It doesn't help though that Season 2 gutted most of the original content for filler and rushed through it. That was stupid and the biggest mistake for the anime team. That's what I would change, stay faithful and true to the original source.
You can't kill Tabane, she's OP.
Regardless given their performance in the series you can bet 500+ IS won't do shit if a theoretical war between genders actually broke out. Things are fucking useless.
>and remove the ability of the IS to fly and wham bam you have a decent series
>series is named Infinite STRATOS
>entire premise is flying mechs
>HURR NO LET'S MAKE THEM LAND MECHS INSTEAD
Why even fucking bother then? Just field a tank and be done with it.
Madoka proves you wrong.
The exception that proves the rule.
>That's what I would change, stay faithful and true to the original source.
But the original source material is fucking horrid as well.
The better alternative would be to get a good director and writer to rewrite it instead of the crap 8-bit shit out.
>But the original source material is fucking horrid as well.
Did you even read it?
I admit that it's pretty bad at the start but if you stick through with it, it gets better.
IS needs to die.
In the military, there are no insane child prodigy geniuses like Tabane who can invent technology light years ahead of its time and decide not to tell anyone how it works.
Half the premise of the IS is that it's ridiculously advanced and nobody can reverse engineer it. There's no "counter" because it's conveniently designed to be so much better than everything else at everything it does.
... or so the story claims. Given that Charlotte dispatched Houki's (admittedly generic shit) IS with a single burst of machine gun fire you have to wonder if these things really live up to the hype. The most they have going for them is ridiculously high mobility, really.
Maybe you need to die, ever thought of that?
Did YOU read Electronic Brain World?
>Given that Charlotte dispatched Houki's
That was a training IS. They're naturally weaker then real units.
They also restrict the cores for tournaments and sports. IS' are WMDs, there's a reason they're banned from warfare.
>Heck invent something that would disconnect the core from the unit
It's called "shoot the goddamned thing".
They even did it in the anime. Did you pay attention?
My bad, IS and its fanbase need to die.
Volume 8 was a hiccup and aside from that part, pretty normal. I'll reserve my judgement on IS after volume 9.
Do the novels actually have a story at this point?
And a beautiful sundering it shall be. The time is nigh for reclaiming what is rightfully ours from those FedSuns. St. Ives, Tikonov, and maybe even as bold as Chesterton.
>IS' are WMDs
I honestly don't see how you're going to cause "mass destruction" with mechas with .61 caliber SMG's as standard equipment.
The novels were on a 2 year hiatus and just recently came back with only 1 new volume out. The anime basically caught up with it with Tabane showing she doesn't need an IS to wreck and now working with Phantom Task.
Because you haven't seen what IS is fully capable of. You've only seen IS that are made and used for sport tournaments and focuses on one field, ie long range like Blue Tears.
Look at Silver Gospel and how much it wrecked the heavily 5 trained girls. The amount of damage it did with beam spamming and destruction it caused.
What IS needed was to not fucking remove all the harem antics.
No one ever watches IS for the action.
What IS is is a harem show. If you remove the harem antics, what do you have? Fucking nothing.
Volume 8 was just shit on top of more shit.
The MC is just as retarded in the novels, only everyone is even more aware of it and makes dumb jokes about his "denseness" yet somehow still get angry when he acts like a retard
The girls still attack him for "kyaa Ichika no ecchi!" or "you lecherous man!" reasons.
Madoka is dark and edgy personified.
The story doesn't go anywhere.
The instructors at the fucking most important military academy in the world are so fucking incompetent there are terrorist raids on the school every other week
What do you expect from a fucking harem show? If you don't like it go read something else. No one fucking makes you do anything. You're here because you want to be here, to troll, to make people made, to do whatever. Whatever happens is your own fault and doing. Pisses me off that /a/ is so fucking retarded that they just think that everything should curb to their one taste. The sun doesn't' revolve around you,.
Not that guy, but EBW wouldn't have even made it into S2 if the source material was properly adapted from remainder of Vol 4 to Vol 7.
I think Overlap/Anime Staff wanted to roll out Kanzashi merch faster which is why they rushed her introduction 3-4 episodes ahead of where she should have been around the Episode 8-9 mark. And give Charlotte and Cecilia episodes to themselves though here comes Charfag defense force when I say her episode was by far the worst episode of the season. Cecilia's episode actually had a few funny moments and it was one of those episodes where the actual "harem girls interacting with each other" worked out nicely.
We're getting EBW as an OVA anyways.
>haremshit and more haremshit to cover even MORE haremshit
And the industry burns.
I'm okay with this, I'm okay with just accepting that IS are a thing and that they're at a school. They should just have normal tournaments where nothing goes wrong. The girls should be friends yet rivals and be cute and do cute things. Get rid of Phantom Task, get rid of the military, get rid of all that Illuminati espionage shit and just be a harem.
A group of kids that pilots some superman robot and uses it for tournaments. The story follows the character relationship between them.
Nice try anon.
>You've only seen IS that are made and used for sport tournaments and focuses on one field, ie long range like Blue Tears.
Schwarzer Regen, Akatsubaki, and Rafael Revive are all combat-ready IS and they're not such hot shit either.
Silver Gospel was the only IS to even remotely live up to the reputation they supposedly held. And even then several anti-aircraft missiles probably would've done it in.
Symphogear ALSO proves you wrong.
Instead of total shit it would be just shit?
>it's harem, therefore nobody is allowed to criticize it!
So you're indirectly admitting the show is shit.
>asks for reasons why Volume 8 sucks
>"What did you expect when you read this, it's all your fault!"
Not even that guy, but Jesus fucking Christ.
>would rather just write cute girls doing cute things all the time.
He DOES know a male MC is NOT how you do CGDCT, right?
That was generally what season 1 was and it was uber popular. The weakest part of IS was the last serious episodes for example.
It'd be like a peacetime military academy sitcom.
>And even then several anti-aircraft missiles probably would've done it in.
Did you see how fast it moved? Did you see it's defenses and weapons?
Go back and re-watch that fight and you'll see.
>who can invent technology light years ahead of its time and decide not to tell anyone how it works.
Tesla would like a word.
Tesla was a pacifist. And also sane.
Schwarzer Regan has a rail gun that can be swapped for other long range artillery. You should really look into this stuff more before making claims.
They don't show it in the anime, so it doesn't count.
>They don't show it in the anime, so it doesn't count.
No, but it shows in the original source so it counts even more. The argument is how to fix IS as a series not as an anime.
>just make it a harem
Not a bad idea. Remove Ichika and have "Charles" be the MC.
Oh, for sure, if IS could be mass-produced they would blow modern military hardware out of the water. Every military would want their hands on one assuming the cost wasn't prohibitive.
They're just not WMD's and definitely wouldn't render nukes obsolete in any way whatsoever. The power to reduce a city to ashes isn't to be taken so lightly. And in any case even if IS is faster than any modern jet, more heavily armored than any tank, etc. etc. it's still not beyond the realm of conventional warfare. Sufficient strategy and superior numbers would still be able to counter any IS.
Just get a really big microwave weapon and cook the fucker piloting it. Or poison the air.
Man, that gif is lewd.
Did you even read the LN or just shitting on the anime? The LN actually tells you that you're wrong.
>Just get a really big microwave weapon and cook the fucker piloting it
>Old Snake BGM starts playing
S2 did have a few good lewd moments.
It's Schwarzer Regen, you dipshit
You were saying that SAM sites would take down an IS, that's implying it would even hit the IS, the IS would destroy the missiles, the site itself, or just dodge them. We saw that with Houki.
The IS wouldn't destroy a city in a blink of an eye like a nuke but it would destroy it severely like any weapon. An IS is a one man army in the right hands and would lay waste to military.
Do they explain in the LN why they haven't extracted Ichika's DNA (preferably all of it; can't be too sure!) to know why is he compatible with the IS?
Was Ichika really necessary?
Typo, but no one gives a shit about Laura to begin with so I don't feel bad.
Yes because he's Chifuyu's brother. and Chufuyu's DNA was used in the first IS thus making Ichika and women the only pilots.
>Vol 1 of S2 sold about 21,000k units
>Vol 2 of S2 looks like it'll only hit 15000-16000 at most
Welp, those are still really good numbers for a sequel season.
>muh generic self-insert
But yeah, continue defending the reason IS is shit as if there was any point to him.
>So you need the story with the action and fighting. But if you go too deep with that, then you lose the harem aspect which it feels most of /a/ doesn't want.
I don't know about the rest of /a/ but Negima slowly put its harem aspect to the side and became a shounen fighting manga as time went on and it went fairly well last I checked. Of course it never got rid of the harem stuff entirely which is a good thing as well. So,
>IS needs balance, which is very hard to achieve and it doesn't help the writer is bad.
couldn't be more true.
People shit on Ichika too much, he's far from the worst harem MC.
He's a nice guy, he's handsome, he steps and defends the girls when they need it, even getting himself hurt in the process. He cooks, he cleans, he's a virtual house husband. He's not a bad guy.
considering ever country and make IS unit I think reverse teching to make anti-IS should be of some interest
The truth, but maybe you should stop worshiping a corpse, eh?
>Madoka is dark and edgy personified
Let's put a smile on this face.
Mate, you see, if we compare IS with military (in a contrived and technically wrong way, but the comparison is generally correct), IS (and by proxy, its pilot) is a knight - like during the times of medieval, a knight which take time, money and resources to produce, teach and fund. Military, however, are a bunch of peasants who were given crossbows, and, oh boy, can they slaughter those knights.
IS is pretty much the low point of harem standards.
Get the fuck out Ichika, we all know you're the worst.
Hayate, what do you think about OP's question?
plus I remember something about how you could easily by-pass their super-shield and kill the pilot with poison and heat
Maybe it wouldn't have fallen that low if the studio weren't assfucks that deleted entire chapters.
>those are still really good numbers for a sequel season
All the more true considering the production values.
Le Bistrot d'a Cote
>compare IS with military (in a contrived and technically wrong way, but the comparison is generally correct), IS (and by proxy, its pilot) is a knight
Holy shit. You really are stupid.
IS = Superman
Superman > Military
>he's far from the worst harem MC
Who is then?
One old IS was capable of stopping like half of the world's nuclear arsenal.
500 of these things would murder the entire military on the planet in one day.
Tabane has access to the latest and most broken IS tech and is protected by a permanently active unit that can probably easily tank nuclear attacks.
>Any average terrorist organization can pull this off, given enough preparation
Any average terrorist organization can destroy a place 10 times better protected than Pentagon?
I'd rather not see Sunrise further shit up their name by being associated with stupid haremshit meant for the lowest fucking common denominator.
>implying it's invincible
10/10 joke, would laugh at again and again.
>One old IS was capable of stopping like half of the world's nuclear arsenal
Who wrote that shit?
Except it is. The only thing that can beat an IS is another IS.
It's a great setting with great potential.
The problem is Yumizuru is a fucking retard that accidentally struck gold. He's been murdering the series for years now.
The best thing that could happen to IS would be a spin-off series with a new writer.
Given the trouble of hitting the damn things alone, the cost to take one out using conventional warfare would be way too much. Having your own IS and making sure it and its pilot can take out the enemy IS is really the more cost efficient strategy. That and nukes would render the desolated area uninhabitable. A nuke can certainly end a conflict the second its dropped but if an IS can raze the area without causing any radiation at the cost of taking more time and possible requiring more sorties, refueling and maintenance for that single IS, that's also better in the long term. At least it's still possible to rebuild your newly conquered area to set up new bases, factories, or even for food production.
These suits pretty much turn pilots into a Superman. Just with guns and missiles.
Some faggot that ruined a great concept by making it an excuse to have a male MC go to an all-girls establishment.
We call that "Iron Man". And he's not invincible.
You would need nukes to break the shield. IS shields are pretty much like AT fields in EVA.
>The LN actually tells you that you're wrong.
How so? Mind you I'm taking beef with how the actual performance of IS we see in action don't live up to their legendary prowess as demonstrated by White Knight a decade prior to the series. Even if the majority of IS in the series are supposedly "sports models", there still are quite a few clearly not meant for those purposes and they don't live up to the hype either.
The entire premise of IS lies with how overpowered the titular mechas are, yet while pretty fucking great, they really aren't that revolutionary as to be able to cause every nation in the world to hastily sign off on a treaty banning their usage (we haven't even done that with nuclear weapons) and shift millions of years of ancient patriarchy into a sudden women-dominated world, and shift the entire world's focus on military technology into focusing solely on IS.
Iron Man don't have an unbreakable energy shield. Or that kind of speed and firepower.
The source material is ass. Compared to that turd of a light novel series the anime is actually extremely well done. I have never seen a light novel that had worse writing.
They let air in, don't they?
Poison the air.
It's honestly amazing considering how shitty the production values AND writing was for S2.
And that's wrong again. Consider the following. Pssive Inertia Control can absorb only kinetic attacks. What can the Active Inertia Canceller, the most broken piece of defenseever conceived for IS, stop? The answer is: NOT SUPERCHARGED PARTICLES.
"Microwave gun/nukes + IS = kill" - here's all the math you need.
Furthermore, no one is going to engage IS in straight-up combat. It's stupid. How about, I dunno, making suicide nuke bomber remote-piloted drones? gg wp nore, here you go.
>and shift millions of years of ancient patriarchy
You mean 2000 years.
And it's not like men in IS are slaves or anything.
>Iron Man don't have an unbreakable energy shield
And, honestly, neither do the IS. Ichika spends more time worrying about his shield than actually fighting.
They don't. IS are capable of space flight.
>Iron Man don't have an unbreakable energy shield.
Even going by movie canon alone Iron Man has been through a lot of fucking punishment and Stark has come out in one piece through all of it. A lot MORE punishment than most of the IS in the series have taken before croaking and dying.
>Or that kind of speed and firepower.
Again, going by movie canon alone (because comics Iron Man has reached truly bullshit levels of powerlevels like every other Marvel superhero) an Iron Man suit could cause a lot more death and destruction than an IS could.
And it still gets shit on all the time nonetheless.
Great. Now you've killed everybody in the area and everywhere else that the wind takes the poison. Also, gas masks. Silver Gospel was fully armored and attaching oxygen tanks to the suits would be piss easy.
Because his weapon drains his shield.
And IS can damage other IS because they have the shields. It's just like the whole AT field deal.
>You mean 2000 years.
You can't honestly be this dumb.
aren't they open?
>assuming you can catch it
But that's wrong. Iron Man got wrecked by a big fan.
IS are invulnerable to everything that's not using IS cores.
Also, Iron Man's strongest attack in movies is that wrist laser. That's nothing compared to IS weapons.
>And IS can damage other IS because they have the shields. It's just like the whole AT field deal.
In case you haven't noticed, most IS are equipped with standard weapons that, yes, DO damage other IS. Sure, the EVAs carried giant assault rifles as well, but 99% of the time they were ABSOLUTELY FUCKING USELESS.
I thought the shields didn't stop radiation?
Not every poison is permanent, not every IS pilot uses gasmasks.
How to fix IS?
Add five more guys to the school, if that faggot Ichika can be a speshul snowflake so can five other faggots.
>"M-muh harem antics"
Fine, make them not give a single fuck, Make them all into Hotblooded angry idiots that yell about courage. Then, have them completely wreck everyone's shit, because that's what Mecha MCs should be doing
>"M-muh IS is a harem not a mecha show"
It has fucking mechs, therefore it's a little bit mecha, and fuck you, variety is the spice of life.
>assuming I'm going to engage it in straight-up combat
Nigga, pls. Even if I won't just attach a nuke to it while pretending I'm a mechanic during its maintenance (or even better, fuck up the core), I certainly will employ nuclear mines, wide-spectrum high-energy microwave barrage, EMPs, and carpet nuclear bombing.
>They don't. IS are capable of space flight.
>"Ah, but it's better not to forcefully try to change the trajectory. The air resistance or pressure will cause additional burden on the machine, and in the worst case scenario, may even cause fractures."
They're capable of space flight, yet are affected by air resistance?
Air resistance that jet planes brush off like nothing? How exactly do these things survive flying again?
It really started with the Greeks in these parts of the world.
Read about Persepolis Administrative Archives. Women had equal pay, pretty much equal rights, maternal leaves, right to command guilds, right to own property, right to divorce and other shit in ancient empires like Persia or Egypt.
>Iron Man got wrecked by a big fan.
the inconsistent kind
>IS are invulnerable to everything that's not using IS cores.
No, no they aren't.
ITT: Anime fags VS Light Novel fags + Iron Man
Shields, I guess?
There is no air in space.
IS have no troubles flying at supersonic speeds. Pulling sharp maneuvers at these speeds is a different case.
Look at the kind of maneuvers they do in flight. Normal plane would get ripped apart.
Except IS are only maintained through specialized people. Which means heavy security and clearances.
Yeah, okay. Nice try.
It's just like TYPE-MOON powerlevel threads all over again.
>Add five more guys to the school
You just completely murdered the show. Congratulations.
Ichika can only pilot IS because he's the closest biological relative of the original pilot.
oh, you mean like the non existent security at the academy?
>Look at the kind of maneuvers they do in flight. Normal plane would get ripped apart.
A normal plane can't do those tricks because it doesn't have the bullshit maneuverability required to pull those off and the pilot would pass out from the G's, NOT because it's not structurally sturdy enough to take the punishment.
"Wind resistance" isn't even a fucking factor here, inertia is.
>what is social engineering
>what is undercover
>what is preparation
Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
Also, >forgetting nonexistent security at the academy
the seeking missiles can follow them with no problem
Silver Gospel was specifically designed for war. Any intelligent military would experiment with the effectiveness of the barrier and make sure that their non-sports use IS would protect the pilot so that it fucks things up longer because clearly, some weapons can still get through like the time Laura choked Cecilia and Rin. The only way they managed to shut down the Silver Gospel was by stabbing it with a sword specifically designed to bypass IS barriers.
And the very second poison gets used in combat, every military in the world will ensure that their IS pilots won't have to worry about the stuff. Because they only need to do so with the IS that they have instead of having to supply thousands of soldiers with the equipment.
Which still applies in space.
That's like saying that an average terrorist can just get into Area 51 and attach a nuke to the latest top secret US plane.
Which is why I'm saying that IS is probably going to be as good as it's gonna get.
>Silver Gospel was specifically designed for war. Any intelligent military would experiment with the effectiveness of the barrier and make sure that their non-sports use IS would protect the pilot so that it fucks things up longer because clearly, some weapons can still get through like the time Laura choked Cecilia and Rin. The only way they managed to shut down the Silver Gospel was by stabbing it with a sword specifically designed to bypass IS barriers.
Shields are Tabunny's designs. Nobody knows how to fuck with shields. Nobody can make them stronger except Tabunny. You can't "strengthen it" or "experiment with it" because nobody knows how.
put another male cast
Except they don't do a full and proper maintenance in the school.
Try again, anon-kun
Yet apparently your average terrorist can just waltz into IS Academy and start shooting up shit no problem.
Explains how Generic Haremshit MC N° [REDACTED] got close enough to one of these superweapons to touch it.
>NOT because it's not structurally sturdy enough to take the punishment
But they really aren't sturdy enough.
F-16 can pull off G9 maneuvers. Beyond that it would fall apart.
This would only work if they were side characters with occasional screentime
a girl pretended to be a guy and enrolled in the academy with no real checks and got away with it
the academy perimeter was breached every other episode in season 2
>Which still applies in space.
Thus strengthening my point. These things can't even survive well in the atmosphere, let alone space.
IS can hold up better than a F-16. Have you seen how an IS moves in the show?
Yeah, being a terrorist is so easy.
Look at all these US towns that got nuked by muslims.
And IS academy needs no security on the inside. Nobody unauthorized would even get on that island.
If they can bullshit up a reason for him, they can bullshit up a reason for others
>stay faithful and true to original source.
Other studios are also like this.
like KyoAni ruined Chuu2 and KnK .
and JC Staff turned Kuroko into lesbian and created the slut brigade.
but the students have the capability of building their own IS at the school
also, there was that military base that got completely wrecked by one IS
What I want to know is how pilots are supposed to breathe in fucking space since the IS apparently doesn't provide oxygen.
And apparently wouldn't protect against searing radiation either.
Bitches with their own IS are not average terrorists.
turn IS into war like Freezing. fight between nations instead of aliens
You don't need to do any extensive research with the shields to experiment with their effectiveness. Just keep hitting it with shit and see what happens. Once you know the upper limits of the shield or knowing what it allows through, again through trial and error, you can start planning counter measures against such things. I'll admit, I may not have been obvious with what I was trying to say.
>Nobody unauthorized would even get on that island.
And yet it happens. Time and again.
That was what I'm saying. Also the fact that the pilot would get cooked by the radiation.
>killing a harem show by taking away the harem
Most people hated the "serious" mecha parts of season 1. But the harem propelled it to 33k sales. Season 2 was horrible because they cut out so many harem hijinks, it just wasn't the same anymore.
Season 1 had equal time for the heroines. Season 2 didn't.
>Nobody unauthorized would even get on that island.
Yet, apparently, it happens, again and again.
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
How to fix IS
>terrorists aim to destroy the school
>they only have access to early IS technology
>final boss terrorists has tentacles
>turns out to be alien
>alien invasion time niggers
>pew pew pew
>alien is kill
Chicks from a super secret organization with their own IS are not your average towelheads.
How would a male terrorist even get on the academy island?
>Just keep hitting it with shit and see what happens
Judging by the number of times people get seriously injured in the show, the shield really isn't that fucking great in the first place.
This is why I prefer to read the LN or manga instead of watching an anime adaptation.
a fucking unmanned IS landed in the middle of the stadium in the first season with no alerts going off
They get injured by weapons powered by IS cores. Not conventional weapons.
>give Squall tentacles and turn her into an alien
>hating a mecha show because it has mechas
So I watched Strike Witches and hated every scene a girl flied.
Only an IS can hurt an IS, are you not paying attention in class?
No the premise is generic fucking shit. If you think this trainwreck had potential you are retarded, kill yourself.
That was Tabane's drone with tech 50 years ahead of the rest of the planet. Using IS core too.
>They get injured by weapons powered by IS cores. Not conventional weapons.
They're conventional weapons. Charlotte fires regular metal rounds from her mostly regular guns. Nowhere has it ever been implied that being fired from an IS gives it some magical IS-damaging properties.
The only one with a magical IS-damaging weapon is Ichika.
>Oh, hello, I'm here to visit [NAME]
"Sure, come in"
Just make the Other men into side characters that don't show up very often. Ichika still gets to act like a dense cunt while all the girls beg for his dick while otaku faggots lap it all up.
Those are IS weapons powered by IS cores. They are even pulled out of pocket space created by IS.
Just like rounds fired by Evangelions carry a bit of AT field so they can damage angels.
That solves exactly nothing.
Nothing like that ever happened.
A non-student wouldn't even be allowed on the train to the island.
>Actually liking IS
You guys always complain when anime does the most cliche of cliches, yet you gobble up shit like this.
I'm dissapointed in you.
>from her mostly regular guns
It doesn't say it's a 'regular gun' either. It could be some fucking super gun that shoots bullets made of kryptonite.
And during the fight between Chifuyuu and the other IS in Vol8, she wasn't able to damage the IS one bit.
your point, I mean nothing not even a bit. heck visually you should be able to see a flying rock coming toward you
considering how easy it is to get Char in as a boy. All you need is some government backing to get in
>That was Tabane's drone with tech 50 years ahead of the rest of the planet. Using IS core too.
and yet they were able to track the other unmanned IS with no problem whatsoever
Nobody even cares about Ichika and the harem crap.
IS got popular because of the girls and mecha. Adding more males is the most retarded idea ever.
Making an all-girls spin-off would be a much better idea.
But It won't make a fucking bit of difference whether something is "solved" or not. All people care about are muh sexy grills anyway. So they have no reason to fucking complain as long as you show off the flat uninteresting cardboard cutout girls equally. Adding more men would draw (trick) in the type of people who like hotblooded mecha, so you get more viewers.
Nobody likes IS, what the hell. We're trying to fix that bullshit.
The best solution is still "remove Ichika from premises"
Fuck of shittard. The best parts of IS were the girls being cute with Ichika.
No, the best solution is "turn Ichika into a girl".
Because Tabane is playing with them?
These drones obviously have some kind of stealth technology.
aka "plot convenience"
>visually you should be able to see a flying rock coming toward you
Unless that rock is flying at mach6 and you can't see it on radars.
Why do you retards go into harem threads?
I don't go into Sakura Trick threads and advocate for the addition of men in the show, or that they be impregnated by Mexicans. What is it with you retards that make you go into every other genre's thread and spew your shittardation?
if it is flying at mach 6 you can hear it though
And that, right there, is the problem. Without him, you'd get cute girls being cute. Full stop.
>I don't go into Sakura Trick threads and advocate for the addition of men in the show
Shitloads of haremfags do though.
Well first off, it stops bullets and cannon fire with minimal difficulty. That's a huge plus compared to most of what we have now. The next logical step is seeing how much force it can withstand by hitting it with bombs, then EMPs, then seeing how it handles biological weapons, etc.
I read somewhere that the sports IS are limited in their energy which is why the shields are so easily broken. Could easily be false of course but then again, why would you want to reveal your ace to the world? I'm sure that Silver Gospel wouldn't be sent to any IS tournament. It and all major information surrounding it (like those wing things shown in >>100228332) be kept under lock and key and data gained from the IS tournaments would be used to strengthen it so that in the event of war, you're more prepared than your enemies may think or at the very least, have a trump card. Experimental technology like Blue Tears can still be flaunted as a show of power and technological prowess as long as its actual capabilities aren't on full display either.
And again, Laura choking Cecilia and Rin would never happen to anybody wearing an IS as armored as Silver Gospel is. A simple counter measure for when the shield doesn't work and developing not so simple counter measures is obvious. The Inertia Canceller Laura has for example is a great counter measure to Ichika's anti barrier shield.
You can hear something flying 6 times faster than sound while being in front of it.
American education everyone.
>no male MC instantly makes a series yuri
Is this cock starved faggot serious?
>Ichika's anti barrier shield
Sword. I meant sword dammit.
Nobody fucking cares about Ichika. He's the worst thing about IS.
No, they don't. Because whenever I see it on page 0, there's no fucking shouting match in them. Unlike the one you're causing here, you bitch.
This is a harem show. You want a cute girls show, go somewhere else.
The girls care for him. And they become cute because of it.
Ichika is shit though. He is the second worst character after China. If the author were to rewrite the story from the beginning the biggest improvement he could make would be to change Ichika so he isn't a retard.
>military class establishment
>only one line of security
>I read somewhere that the sports IS are limited in their energy which is why the shields are so easily broken
Which is fucking dumb because in a setting where you are piloting deadly mecha in a show of sport you should be taking even MORE precautions that nobody gets hurt.
>And again, Laura choking Cecilia and Rin would never happen to anybody wearing an IS as armored as Silver Gospel is
This is dumb too. I know it's a shallow excuse for fanservice (there's an energy shield so the pilots can wear skimpy swimsuits instead of armor!) but with the number of times the energy shields have been penetrated during battle you'd figure one of the girls would throw her hands up and say, "I DON'T CARE IF YOU ENGINEERS ONLY THINK WITH YOUR DICKS, GIVE ME SOME FUCKING ARMOR PLATING ON THIS THING ALREADY."
the worst part of IS is everything
All I see shouting here is you, nigga.
>You want a cute girls show
Let me quote other of your posts:
>The best parts of IS were the girls being cute with Ichika.
Take out the "with Ichika" part and you'd get what you want, minus a retarded generic male harem MC. How is that NOT an improvement?
I bet a show about them would be 10 times better than the bullshit we get with Ichika.
>the worst part of IS is Peashy
Laura is great though you fucking nerd. Char is okay too.
The Japs need to use accents as well
You mean they become retarded violent bitches because of him.
Or so that he isn't.
At least IS is still better than
>Swordians, the race of Swords
In no way did I say that leaving the sports IS unarmored was smart either so we are at least in agreement on this point.
Well I'm shouting here because you're a piece of shit deliberately walking into a harem show thread and then saying it should stop being a harem.
You fucktard. You honestly think no one's going to get angry for that? That's like if I was retarded and went to /u/ and said all women should suck cocks, or went into yuri threads and said they should have male main characters fucking their women.
This is wrong though because yuri is the purest form of love and is thus superior to all other genres.
See, there you go.
Some people enjoy girls when they're in love/fawning over someone. Otherwise, they're just kind of there.
I don't mean this to sound as misogynistic as it does and I apologize but I'm too tired to figure out how to reword this.
I love how Yumizuru thinks "Tabane did it" is a good explanation for every bullshit that happens in the series.
Is there even a date for the next volume? Or is the lazy fat faggot still butthurt because everybody hated the last one?
>series can only be harem or yuri
Also, you could still have an interesting MECHA series.
IS would do much better if it was not a harem.
It's an era of all-girls series now.
How about no? The highest selling anime still have men with prominent roles in them.
>Hello everyone, this is Izuru. How long has it been since the last time I'm able to talk with everyone in Cafe like that? Haha.
<If you bite an apple, your teeth will drop out, because it's gorilla glass.
>Anyway, this is the 8th volume of IS. Haa--kept you waiting.
>After all sorts of hardships, this book finally gets published thanks to Overlap-san picking up this series. Thank goodness.
>Also, it’s really an honor to have that CHOCO-san be the illustrator of this series. Yes, I still remember the time when I started buy his ‘Iguna Cross Zero Station’ when I was in my second Year of High School.
>After that, the pretty girl leaps up from the computer, fights the demon king in the other world, and repeats her death matches against the space monsters breaking the laws of cause and effect—I managed to obtain illustrations after doing this. This is certainly the coincidence. Right, how wonderful~
>I have nothing to say about volume 8 at all! Nothing at all! That’s all!
>For the 9th volume, I plan to write a slapstick romcom. I want to write something free and easy, something soft. I had enough of battles! It’s really tiring. See you then!
>Ah, so there’s a second page. Erm, erm…
>“The mangakas certainly have it tough, to be forced to draw manga in the editorial department.”
>This is what I thought, and I, who’s writing my original script in the editorial branch, appears!
>Speaking of which, I finished my script in the editorial branch…and the same thing goes for this…
>To put it, I’m really sorry.
>I’ll try my best to finish the 9th volume script early. (※I always say this)
Why is he such a faggot?
Or a balanced cast, with a equal number of males and females, both equally relevant.
>Is there even a date for the next volume?
September 2013 was supposedly its release date. But, it got delayed again. Yumizuru Izuru now has a reason of "I've been helping out with other stuff like the PS3/Vita game and what not", I guess.
I think it's funny that crazy cunt is basically a supervillain that just does whatever the fuck she likes without a fuck given
We need the goddamn Batman to stop her
Ichika is actually a girl
>Parents found out baby is girl
>gender change w/ circumsized penis
Then you get EVOL.
Do you really want that?
Least it isn't IS.
>they wont use a.i controlled IS to fight them
evol was fine as a concept and only when to shit after the 2nd half due the writer and director's lack of interest
Yeah, like Madoka right?
Yes, let's put superweapons under an AI. What could go wrong?
So the best girl voiced by Kana Hanazawa gets shit on in favor of YAMATO DAMASHII and a shit-tier Japanese heroine that never endears herself to the audience but gets shoved down everyone's throats anyways because she's the writer's waifu?
I'm okay with supervillains like that.
I hope they rape us all before destroying the world though.
Except for the Kana Hanazawa part, you just described IS.
They tried to put A.I. into Silver Gospel. Sure worked great.
Yeah, like Evangelion right?
Yeah, like Gundam Unicorn right?
Yeah, like Bakemonogatari right?
Every IS has an AI. Tabane just made SG's go berserk and ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL.
No, I think IS needs to be wiped off the face of the fucking Earth
EVA was 15 years ago.
Unicorn is an OVA to a 40 year old franchise.
Bake is 5 years old and last two Monogatari seasons struggled to sell half as good as Madoka.
>15 years ago
It just aired a movie recently and sold freaking well.
>40 year old franchise
Gundam AGE sold like shit. Unicorn is still selling way better than that.
The first Bake series sold more than Madoka, but the last two seasons weren't as magical as the first one and still sold a lot.
Fucking To Love Ru omake OVAs sell for 70,000 copies.
What are the chances of season 3?
It still had a terrible MC and a terrible lead girl in the first half.
Everything suggested here completely changes what IS is. You either strip out the harem or the action and what you're left with doesn't work. I like IS because of the mecha musume.
The thing wrong with IS is that it's a great idea on paper but very hard to execute properly. Someone like Yumizuru can't seem to do. It just needs balance. The fault isn't in the series but in the creator and the people who work on it and the anime. You can see this in things like the manga, spin off, and work safe doujins where almost anyone can do it better. The problem isn't in the show but the creator.
It's to the point where either you accept IS for what it is or you move onto something else. IS is what it is and that ain't changing anytime soon.
Insulting to almost every Mecha MC. Fuck off Ichika, you will never be close to their level
Imagine if the author held an impromptu Q/A session like LH's one did. Like if the fatfuck himself just dropped in this thread right now and was absorbing our suggestions and criticisms.
The only thing he's absorbing is more food.
He's well aware of the criticism that IS has given, it was one of the reasons he fell into bad health, lost sleep, became depressed, and started taking pills. It's one of the reasons IS was dropped from MF because he would start flame wars against trolls on twitter.
He thinks he's doing the best he can do and that everyone else is just hating on him. He thinks his work is good enough and now he has sales to back him up. Some of his old tweets were really bad like saying he had no friends and that he envied his staff because they would all go out after work to bars and shit and not invite him.
The guy use to work for AliceSoft, all he knows how to do is make ecchi harem but the guy thinks he can write plot. He's basically sitting in a corner with his fingers in his ears.
Right before the first season aired.
Was the author of IS a girl or a male?
If he was a male I cannot understand how someone write this shit level of harem
Could Yamakan save IS?
Fortunately this happens several times every season because IS isn't original or creative in the fucking slightest and it in itself was just another in a long long line of these garbage shows.
Guys stop reminding me that I'm supposed to feel bad for him
>robot suit idols
That lazy fatass.
He wasn't always fat, he was thin during season 1.
He grew fat on mixed berry crepes in the downtime, no doubt.
I think it would still suck even if it was faithful to the original. Also S2 fucked up big time.
So why IS PC games' art direction so dull and terrible?