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Left or Right?
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Or maybe
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>>100218581
Left Saber.
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Trick question, Red Saber is better than both.
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Maybe
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Your choices are weak OP.
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>>100218617
I didn't hear about such character, is she from a fan-fiction game or something?
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Ichoose La Pucelle
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What if?
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>>100218581
why_not_both.jpg
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But Caren is delicious.
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And Rider is a cute big sister.
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And Sion-chan needs some love too.
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I'll take the secret Kotomine route, please.
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Maybe a sister end?
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Or a certain Finnish ojou-sama with dynamite body?
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So hard to pick.
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So many choices.
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Clearly the best one.
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>definition of perfection or girl pretending to be a man
gee i dunno both sound pretty good
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>>100219113
Yeah, Saber is better
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How can you folks keep choosing such unworthy ladies? You know which girl is the right one.
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Srongest choice.
Strongest tits.
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>>100218740
I'll go with that one
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>>100218770
One of these days, I'll finally get to meet this character
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>>100219185
If she is so worthy, why didn't she get a route?
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Original flavor Seiba best Seiba
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>>100219378
It's funny because Mahoyo was translated faster than FHA. (translation finished, they just need to edit it and release).
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The answer is clear

Ciel is the only other viable option, you fucks
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>>100219439
Isn't Mayo also much shorter?
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>>100219384
Because her love for Shiki would have overshadowed the other girls love for him. Before her they would all look like shallow whores, so she had to take one for the team.
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>>100218912
Why couldn't the imouto get a good ending?
Why is she the only one who can only know suffering?
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>>100219504
Yes, it is. Mahoyo has like 10 hours of gameplay.
But still.
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>>100219502
You are a man of unique taste. Enjoy your curry sir.
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>>100219586

Is it really only 10 hours? And no choices?
Nasu needs to step it up.
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If it's a selection between Arc and just original Saber, then Arc wins. If it's anyone from everything, then Akiha wins.
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>>100218770
>>100218875
Why are the sidelined girls always the best?
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>>100219470
>not shiki-groping-arcueid-36DD.jpg
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LEFT

Because more to grab
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>>100219849
Because you are free to make them actually good after selling generic shit well.
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>>100219949
>>100219981
Whoa... are you psychic?
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Caren is so fucking arousing. She might be slutty, I don't care. I like her even more because of that.
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>>100220017
More like that's a common filename for that picture. Mine has that same name too.
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Finally translated: http://exhentai.org/g/664548/5712618812/
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>>100220056
How's it feel that she's probably slept with otherwoldly creatures and random men for fun?
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>>100220125
Being insecure with non-virgin girls?
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Well she is kotomine daughter, so she has to be at least 110% crazy.
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>>100220216
Kirei didn't raise her.
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>>100220288
Well she has his genes.
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>>100219949
Why would he want 36DD when he could fondle these?
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>>100220288
It's hereditary. Kotomine has crazy genes
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Big Arc Tits
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>>100220333
>fondling nothing
How?
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>>100220344
Wasn't Risei a good dude?
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How can you even live with something like that under the same roof without getting a hard-on every fucking single minute? It's a torture for men.
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>>100220467
Wait, what? It's supposed to be this picture.

MOOT FIX THIS SHIT.
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>>100218581

Left.
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Rider plz.
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>>100219586
>sweater puppies
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Judging by OP's picture, I'm going to go with right.
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>>100220508
Damn it, why aren't the Chinese releasing the raws for Complex X 8!?
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The problem with the Nasuverse is that ALL of the girls are so good. Even the ones you don't like are still pretty good, and someone else loves them in your stead.
Well, except for Medea.
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>>100220975
Why aren't the Chinese releasing Japanese raws AT ALL? That is my question. They do understand that most people can't buy this shit in the first place, right?
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LEEEEEEEEEEFT

Tsurui just made porn of Arcueid, Akiha, and Ciel, and damn, shit's hot, bro.
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>>100221084
I heard about some big thing where Chinese raw providers suddenly grew consciences or something so we lost a lot of our sources. It was some big deal for Madoka doujins, anyway.
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>>100220975
>>100221084
From what I (vaguely) know, they do release raws. Just not to us gaijins. It's often released in Chinese forums and BBS that require you to sign up and shit to get access to.

If you're lucky they might upload to baidu or sad panda.
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>>100221082
>Well, except for Medea.
She don't need no love from you anyway.
She's got Souichirou-sama
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>>100220975
Wait, 7 got translated? I've completely forgotten all about it till now. Last time I read it was what, volume 5-ish, I think.
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they're probably doing it in protest. china isn't sharing the chinese porn comics because territory dispute over some rocks in the middle of the ocean. BELIEVE IT.
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>>100221388
You don't even know what we're talking about, do you?
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>>100221125
Is it on sadpanda?
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>>100218639
are there pictures of Alcrueid and Shiki shipping? You know, the murderous Shiki?
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>>100221480
Nah, it's on pixiv. Dude's thinking of making a doujin about Tsukihime.
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>>100219028
As if someone ever picked sakura
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>>100221187
>grew consciences
How? They do know that most gaijin can't order this shit without getting into trouble, right?
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>>100221187
>grew consciences
You mean cautious right?
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>>100221125
>>100221480
>>100221565
Thank you based Tsurui
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>>100221598
Well that's not really their problem, now, is it?
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>>100218704
>>100219050
>>100219116
>>100219185
>>100219425
Good taste.
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Arcueid. Always Arc.
Never anything but Arc but Aoko is fine too.
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>>100221667
Man, there really needs to be a dedicated gaijin scanning team or something. But the last time we had that, they put so many fucking watermarks on what they scanned, people probably just stopped donating to those guys.
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http://exhentai.org/g/664812/7ed82f60e8/
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>>100221125
Too bad Shiki didn't stick it up Ciel's butt.
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Shiki
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Left

A Sion is fine too.
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>>100222084
Stick what up her butt? His fruit knife?
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Old ladies are fine too.
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>>100222262
His armdick
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Left
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>>100222645
bare legs barelegsBARELEGSBARELEGSBARELEGSBARELEGSBARELEGSBARELEGSBARELEGSBARELEGSBARELEGSBARELEGSBARELEGSBARELEGSBARELEGS
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>>100218581
Right. Left is too old.
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>>100222846
>left is too old
>right lived before 1000 ad, close to 600 ad
>left is closer to 800 years old
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>>100222484
>Arc will never have a full-length dress drawn by Takeuchi after he learned how to draw.
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>>100223213
But left has been alive for all of those years consecutively.
Right was alive way back then but then lol time-warped, so she's not really that old
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>>100219425
>that cup

hhhnnnggg
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>>100223278
No, she really is that old, you hypocrite.
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>>100223560
No she's not?
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>>100223560
You're defining age as the length of time a thing has existed, but in her case, she's existed for longer than she's actually been alive.
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I want Arc to fuck me.
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>>100223676
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>>100223715

>Pillow Talk
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I choose the imouto-nee
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The greatest.
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>not picking punk biker mordred
Pleb tastes, all yous
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>>100218581
Right
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>>100218679

why is she so delicious?
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I-I like Roastbeef.
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>>100225376
This niggah get's it.
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>>100225376
>still no apocrypha new chapters
;_;
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Left because of love
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>>100221082
>hating Medea
Get cursed.
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The one with 36DD boobs.
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>>100229582
Who?
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>>100218709
Hoi
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>>100222369
Are there more of these tarot cards?
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>>100218709
La Tits
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>>100218709
You can never go wrong with Jeanne
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>>100229582
Which one, I think there's several now
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>>100218581
RIn
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>>100233696
Type Cowtats
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>>100218581
Right.

Titty Airhead trope does nothing for me.
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I wonder if screwing a sentient blob of liquid mercury would be pleasant or painful.
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>>100234094
Sieg should probably handle romance, Jeanne is terrible at it.
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>>100234094
Cute.
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>>100234213
Ask Fast Wheels.
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>>100218704
FUCKING TAKEUCHI I WANT YOU TO STOP BUT NOT REALLY.
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>>100234235
She totally wants his kids.
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>>100219502
> we are the sexiest
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Void Best Girl.
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>>100220979
>that eye on saber
every time
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>>100218581
Right
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>>100222645
>>100222610
Ciel just doesn't get gap rule

You can't be falunting around glasses all the time and still expect to hit glasses moe, or else you'll make them too used to the concept that this person is glasses. If a character who never wear glasses suddenly puts on glasses then they'll suddenly hit a new target zone, meanwhile if a person who is always glasses takes off their glasses they also hit a new zone all of a sudden

Whatever goes against the standard ideal here will hit a new zone, and the rarer you show that side the stronger it will hit in some ways.
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>>100234213
Mercury is very dense, it's as comfortable as drilling a hole on the ground with your dick
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>>100226741
Separated at birth?
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>>100226070
She's taken.
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>>100232324
Any Jeanne Alter images?
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>>100237937
If Roastbeef is Sion's, would that she's also Shiki's by extension?
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I pick Aoko.
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>>100238080
A few, not a whole lot made now, probably because the idea of the Holy Grail corrupting Jeanne is more or less certain not to happen now
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>>100238175
>Holy Grail corrupting Jeanne is more or less certain not to happen now

Why? Is there grail not corrupted?
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>>100238236
Apparently not, the fact the Rulers exist might've done something to ensure that the Einzbern's absolutely genius plan of using Avenger didn't happen (or they just plain opted for a different, less incredibly stupid plan, who knows)
I'm sure everyone would've wanted to see a cruel, twisted parody of Jeanne, but I guess it just wasn't in the cards this time.
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>>100238434
So this grail will actually grant wishes, oh my.
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i pick vv because she not a slut
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>>100238533
There's so far nothing that suggests the Grail is corrupted I believe, it actually working is a possibility.
I can't say with absolute certainty though, because translations stopped and shit.
>>100238661
Jeanne's pretty nonslutty.
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>>100238794
>because translations stopped and shit.

That sucks.
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>>100238898
Tell me about it.
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>>100238942
Dear Diary. That ass was phat
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>>100238942
Why did they stop though?
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>>100238942
Slutty and Sexualized are two different things.
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>>100238976
I don't know, CanonRap just stopped, one of the threads suggested Final Fantasy 14 is to blame or something
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Does anyone know how much of F/HA is verified? It says 99.4% but thats not final, is it?
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>>100239042
>Final Fantasy 14
I see then he will come back.
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What game are you talking about that translations have stopped? This is what I found for F/HA

Jan. 4, '14
99.1% translated, script 73.9% validated, third partial patch out
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>>100238993
She can't help it, it just happens
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So why does it take 5 years to translate a VN?
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>>100239314
Not a game, a Light Novel series.
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>>100239373
Completely forgot about Apocrypho
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>>100239589
Still on-going, the third volume got released not too long ago, leaving only one left now.
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How do I go about downloading the partial patch for F/HA?
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>>100219367
I thought assassins didn't have faces.
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>>100239340
What are her three sizes?
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So there's Apocrypha prologue out? Is that the only one? Because I can't find any other translations
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>>100239936
B85/W59/H86
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>>100234213
It'd leave you brain damaged eventually.
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>>100240104
>W59
Fat.
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>>100240420
Gay.
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>>100240053
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>>100240516
Yes but is that the only way to read it? Is there no download?
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>>100240420
You mean perfect, anon.
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>>100241080
Also that doc has prologue and chapters 1-3 which means the first volume isn't finished. I thought volume 1 and 2 were released?
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>>100241195
Have you not been reading this thread or something? The translation stopped.
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>>100240461
>>100241106
I usually see W be 56-57 in anime, not like it matters since they all are the same when they draw them.
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>>100241497
In this thread someone said volume 1 and 2 was released. Maybe he meant volume 2 untranslated?
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>>100241586
>>100238794
>I can't say with absolute certainty though, because translations stopped and shit.
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>>100226915
Well the thrid volumes out

Reika kills homu by shooting him in thee heart with a thompson contender of all things
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>>100234213
Apparently one of wavers students trys to ask it on a date ( Same guy that summoned Berserker in fate/fake)
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>>100219425
i commend you taste anon.
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>>100238434
basically in the third war, the einzberns had a choice of summoning Avenger or Ruler, they went with Shiro for the command spells and apparently it worked quite well as they got to the end , shiro touched the grail and was incarnated and then the grail got swiped whilst they weren't looking.
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>>100241868
>thompson contender
for real?
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>>100242038
So in other words, one of the major reasons F/A diverged from F/ proper, is because the Einzberns made a less retarded choice?
There's something oddly amusing about this, I don't know what, but there is.
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There's a disturbing lack of Best Saber in this thread.
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>>100242128
I want to call bullshit but quite frankly F/A is rather unpredictable at times.
Fatso alone continues to annoy and impress me on how he keeps surviving despite looking like he would be the first to die.
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>>100242422
>Best Saber
Heh
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>>100242582
He's tripping some flags alright, he made up with Homu and convinced him to join the black team.

He also willingly freed all the homunculi he made
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>>100242880
Yes that is what she is.
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>>100219439
Why isn't there a torrent on Nyaa or fuwan so I don't have to download the whole thing when the engrish patch is out?
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All TM girls are best girls.
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>>100243550
dumping til I get bored
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>>100243550
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>>100243550
h
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>>100242422
>Intakes
>good
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Hours in microsoft paint and still not perfect.
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>>100243550
s
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>>100243797
You trying to start something, punk?
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All TM girls are wonderful. This one will always be my favorite, though
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>>100243550
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>>100243981
T-that's not the one I meant to post.
I'm not a pedophile, swear.
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>>100243981
>>100244024

Rin is lovely, regardless of her age.
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>>100243952
No just stating a universal truth.
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>>100244024
>not a pedo
>on /a/
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>>100243990
I can't read captcha for shit I must be part robot.
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>>100243821
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This thread needs more Ciel.
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>>100244537
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>>100244382
Oh hey it's Jeanne's husbando.
Sort of.
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>>100244812
She has a very handsome Husbando.
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>>100244382
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>>100244072
Post more Rin.
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>>100245457
Alstolfo is a two parter
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>>100245299
Sieg's a tiny bit less manly looking though
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>>100245998
Gender: Le Secret
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>>100246157
Damn it, Jeanne literally has the best of both worlds.
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>>100245696
For you.
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>>100245998
part 2
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>>100246309
Thanks, more Rin is always good.
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>>100246337
Why did Astolfo vandalize his own stat page?
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>>100218581
Will left give me immortality?
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>>100246337
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>>100218659
Right. That post looks sexy as fuck.
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>>100246739
No but right will, with Avalon.
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>>100246337
Something unrevealed about the Hippogriff?
Neato.
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>>100246850
Right it is then.
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>>100246803
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>>100247037
And last but not least Frankenmoe
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>>100218675

Why does anyone want to fuck this thing? In universe or out?
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>>100248036
Are you gay or something, son?
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Is Astolfo eligible for best girl?
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>>100238121
Probably not. Only peeping when Shiki and Sion are fucking like rabbits.
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>>100248342

Better taste.
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>anyone but original Shirou
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>>100245998
>>100246337
Why is Astolfo two parter?
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>>100248919
I wonder if Prototype will ever get anything ever
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>>100249025
It won't.
But I still think that it would've been much better than what we got in the end.
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I haven't played any of the games, so you bear with me. Why is there more than one Saber?
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>>100248938
He's someone's favorite on the staff, like how Jack is the author's favorite.
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>>100249148
Because Saber is a class and for some inexplicable reason all female sabers look exactly the same.
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>>100249097
Nah. FeMC and Male Saber is a destined flop.
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Saber Lilly worst Saber.

>>100249148
Original Saber is King Arthur
Extra Saber is Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus and is said to be one of the people the legend of Arthur was based off of. Something about stealing the looks because of this
Apocrypha Saber is Arthur's daughter/clone
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>>100248476
>girl
Best trap though 10/10 would cuddle.
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>>100249148
Saber's a class, not a name, fit within a certain criteria and a person can be summoned as a Saber. A number of them look similar to them (Saber Arturia has her default look, Alter, and Lily, Nero looks similar but acts differently and is not her, Jeanne looks somewhat similar but still different enough, Mordred's is Arturia's daughter, so yeah, they look similar
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Rin
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>>100249796
Jeanne looks completely different.
The only thing that makes them similar is that they're both blonde.
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>>100243821
Photoshop is Photoshop

Part of the beauty there is that you can fudge it a bit. Delete the area in between and fill it in appropriately after, and use clone stamp to recreate the part at the bottom.
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>>100249934
B-but muh word of god:
Q: What's the difference between Jeanne and Saber (Arturia)?

A: Sex appeal.
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>>100249665
Astolfo is so damn girly though he might as well be one.
He even has his three sizes listed!
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Is Saber pure in the VN?

In the anime she seemed pure since she was pretending to be a boy the whole time.
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>>100248938
Weaker physically typically means more NPs to make up for it, although he does have Monstrous Strength as an ability.

Guy has like three to five NPs and most abilities listed there. Although one of his skills calls for him to forget him NPs name, but he'll react on instinct as a bonus.
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Saber is best.
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>>100250167
As pure as you, anon :)
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>>100250080
Akiha's bust size is 73...
Astolfo is passable though, definitely wouldn't mind the penis.
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>>100249097
It really wouldnt have been. F/P was a really shitty story and Shirou is far more interesting that Ayaka.

Ayaka is quite literally the main character from Twilight.
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>>100250252
>:)
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>>100243681
Is that Rider's sword from Fate/Zero?
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>>100250283
Congrats, Akiha is only slightly more well endowed in the chest than a man.
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>>100250367
Why are you so angry and green?
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>>100250240

a cunt
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>>100250844

Her cunt is also the best, yes.
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>>100250538
The sword of Cypriots is a bit different. Mainly the handle and the crossguard.
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>>100250550
Delicious.
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right
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>>100250844

Her cunt is also the best, yes.
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>>100251251
Why is Shiki such a shit Onii-chan? He should've ended up with her in the last route, and let Ol' Rapey go live by herself with those sunflowers
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The best choice.
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>>100251597
I dont know if you caught on whilst playing Tsukihime but Shinki isnt exactly a very nice person.
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>>100251597
You're heartless, man.
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All of 4chan's boards are now servants.

Which do you choose?
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>>100251800
/a/ as Caster. Because, you know, wizards.
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>>100251020

I wonder what would happen if Gil and her fucked? Would the kid be like a god? One things for sure, it would be whhhiiiiiiittttteeee.
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>>100251867
/jp/ is also Caster

Seems we're playing by Mooncell rules
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>>100218581
ill take the tapestry in the backgroun
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>>100251800
This is silly. /tg/ fits into all categories perfectly.
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>>100251185
Goddamn it, i always get a boner when looking at the design of these weapons.
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TAIGA ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT
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>>100251950
/b/ is obviously Berserker. I kind of pity whoever their master is.
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>>100251800
I actually made a .txt with /a/ as a caster complete with stats and personal skills.
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>>100252043
So do Hercules and Lu Bu
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>>100252174
Lu Bu is a trap unless you have him tied as Berserker or else...
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How powerful is Siegfried?
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>>100218704
>saber acting out of character
hnnng
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>>100252245
We've seen Nasu Lu Bu, and he's pretty far from a trap Berserker or otherwise.
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>>100252246
Probably about equal with Arthur, but generally with better defenses, yet a weaker NP.
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>>100252390
I didn't meant trap as you think i meant:
Likes: Betrayal, His Wife, Chen Gong
Dislikes:Betrayal, Siege
Talents:Betrayal, All kinds of martial arts
If you are looking to have a loyal Servant he doesn't seem the right choice...
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>>100252588
Still the main thing is he's listed to be able to qualify for five out of the seven classes depending on his master. Hercules as well can qualify for every class aside from Caster as well.

Some servants can fit almost every class, but it's either luck or otherwise that tells you which version of them you'll get.
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>>100252531
He could also stand toe-to-toe with Karna.
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Tohsaka best is best Tohsaka.
>>100250167
Yes. She's a virgin for a while. Then Tohsaka literally pushes Shirou in far enough to deflower her.

Interestingly, Gilgamesh seems to have vagoo-sensing abilities - during one of the later scenes in Fate, he notes how she lost her virginity recently.
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>>100252872
Or... he actually saw the act taking place and probably fapped to it too...
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>>100252976
A true king does not masturbate while looking in from the window...

A true king has sex with the universe while looking in from the window.
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>>100252976

the more likely scenario

I bet he calls it Gate of Babylon too
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>>100252872
>>100252976
Nah, she just smelt of fish
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>>100252872
>girl corrupting/coercing another girl
mythisfetish
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>>100251597
Shiki is a simple man.
If there are pettanko half-demons then they get the onii-chan.
If there are church representatives then they get it up the pooper.
If there are vampire scum then they get the Knife.
If there are maids then they are raped.
Truly a man that we should all aspire to be.
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>>100253442
Before Shirou and Saber do the deed, Rin warms her up.
Rin fingers/fists/eats out Saber while talking dirty to her. Saber doesn't seem to like this, but Tohsaka doesn't care all that much. Later, when she has literally pushed Shirou into Saber's lady bits, Rin licks whatever part of her vagoo that Shirou isn't occupying. Then she gets up so she can sit in the corner and masturbate. Because why not.
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Would you give the French Catholic Saint/Highschool girl the D?
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>>100254980
No. I just couldn't do that.
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>>100255072
Is it the Saint part or the highschooler bit that gets you?
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>>100254980
If she was OK with it.

I'm not into rape.
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>>100254980

I'll give her a piece of my below average dick
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>>100251767

Indeed, he always came accross as a bit of a cunt. That carried on into even Carnival Phantasm.
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>>100252253

Its not out of character actually, if F/HA is anything to go by.

Saber, without the weight of the Grail War and her misplaced guilt about her time as King on her mind, is actually a rather funloving and quirky person.

A bit of that shone through in UBW when Rin, Shirou and Saber chill out for a day.
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>>100254514

...wtf is wrong with these people?
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>>100255190

Well its Jean, its not like she isnt used to rape.
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>>100255458
Several tons of perpetually anger controlled by an psychopathic albino 12 year old, mostly.
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>>100255158
The saint part.
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>>100255458
Nasu is very weird about adding sex scenes to his visual novels. It seems like something added later on because some higher-up believed it would help sales, but...nope Nasu pretty much has complete creative control...and adding sex scenes is a good way to alienate a chunk of the market without getting people interested, in this case.
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>>100255410
>A bit of that shone through in UBW when Rin, Shirou and Saber chill out for a day.

That was really more of a showing of her pure competitiveness; as even a simple game is something she won't allow herself to lose and will keep pushing it no matter what field she's in while disregarded the fun part. Fun was secondary to winning, rather she just hates losing, and so does Rin.
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>>100255695

You have it all wrong.

They were a doujin company in the VN market. The medium demands that there be H-scenes, and its an industry that both Takeuchi and Nasu went into willingly.

And as has been explained to many people in the past, sex for the purposes of magic transfer and establishment of magical contracts is as old as the Occult itself. Its not the first time it has ever been done in a story and it was not even the first time Nasu has put it forward as a theme in his works either (see Len, Kohaku and Ciel's scenes and Kohaku's whole backstory.)
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>>100255695

It's hilarious because sex scenes were added to sell it to the otaku market.

F/SN was released when VNs were still incredibly niche. It wasn't until, like, 2005 that anything but Tokimeki Memorial was any VN near the mainstream. (Except maybe Phoenix Wright, and Sakura Wars if you really stretch the definition of VN)

Oddly F/SN partly helped that motion towards mainstream popularity, hence Realta Nua sexless versions. (Clannad had way more to do with it though.)
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>>100255695
>and adding sex scenes is a good way to alienate a chunk of the market without getting people interested, in this case.
also kind of required for eroge (porn games) doesn't help that translation is bad too.
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>>100255644
Just remember she's possessing a French Boarding schoolgirl, focus on those B85s full of HOPE and FAITH, and you'll be fine.
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>>100255920
>'s hilarious because sex scenes were added to sell it to the otaku market.

Well fucking done Sherlock. You just identified the eroge market.

And VNs were a popular medium even before F/SN. And nearly all of them had H-scenes.
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>>100255920
I wonder exactly when that Fate blew up and 'put TM on the map' probably about when it got an anime, even though tsukihime anime failed hard. About after the anime they were able to merchandise the ip so much.
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>>100256160

... uh, yeah, the point being that F/SN could have not been an eroge at all. VN does not equal eroge.

Non-eroge VNs do exist, but at the time were not popular among otaku. No VNs (bar Tokimeki Memorial) were popular among mainstream. Hence, the go-ahead to make Fate an eroge.
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>>100256193

The Tsukihime anime didnt fail hard though. It was absolutey shit, yes but it sold pretty well.

It was likely a case of the vauge premise pulling people in who had not played the VN. They then played the VN afterwards and realised what a shit job the anime was.

>>100256318

Type Moon began life as an eroge and doujin company, bro. Thats what they knew and got good at. They wernt forced to do it. They did it because they wanted to.
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>>100255571

But I thought this is /a/, not /b/?

>>100255695

Oh...anon, you just had to say money.
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>>100256462

Type-Moon was fully commercial by the release of Fate/Stay Night. It was their first official release.
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>>100256517
But I didn't say money...

And I am now imagining that Illya and Berserker frequent /b/. It is a silly thought.
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>>100256318
yea but then they might not even be were they were today because of it; it's easier to discard their 'otaku' crowd fans but it's kind of their origin and how they got popular
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>>100256644

No...but you should have.
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>>100256573

That still did not change them as a company. Not then at any rate.

And you can sneer with your "hurr otakufans" baitline but that is where the majority of TMs fanbase came from. Its why they became wildly successful for a doujin company makin eroge. Its why they had a 10th Aniversarry celebration with a bespoke anime made for it (Carnival Phantasm) and its why a Tsukihime remake is in the works.

Both Nasu and Takeuchi know that abandoning their old, core crowd would be creative suicide. Especially after the lukewarm reception of Mahoyo.
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>>100256462
>Thats what they knew and got good at.
It's been said in Nasu interviews that he didn't want to write the porn and that Takeuchi made him do it so that Tsukihime would sell.

Mahoyo has no H for a reason, and it's very likely the Tsukihime remake won't have them as well. (rip)
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>>100256697
>>100256822

Never said it would have been a good idea to. They did indeed need the otaku market at the time.
I'm not going to lie, if the Tsukihime remake is non-ero, I'm going to be upset.
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>>100256897

No, Nasu never said that he didnt want to write it, but that he didnt think he was very good at it and was very self concious.

It was Takeuchi's motivation that got his confidence up enough to make it.
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>>100256897
>>100256933
>Tsukihime remake
question is if it will stand the test of time, or modernized/remade so that it draws new fans.. or just pandering to nostalgia even though things like ero is removed.
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So how about those French titties?
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Right. Green eyes are hnnnnngh.
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>>100257045
Depends on the writing.
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>>100257018

Nasu didn't want to do it, not out of any dislike for ero content, but because of his self-esteem about writing it.

Nasu has a lot of confidence issues, he's pretty much nonoperational without Takeuchi to begin with.
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>>100218581
>2014
>Not picking Arcade Bumstead
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>>100257077

...indeed
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>>100257045
With the Mahoyo flop, TM knows what its fans demand.

If it is not true to the original Tsukihime in the remake, the fans will flip their shit. Not including H-scenes or the sexual undertones of each route would alienate and fuck everybody off.

They shouldnt approach it with the aim of "drawing in new fans". They should make it with the aim "this needs to be exactly what the current fanbase wants and more" and then a side effect of that would be new fans being drawn in from the warm reception.
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>>100257274
Copycat.
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>>100257523

Mahoyo wasn't truly a flop, but it was a stumble.
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>>100257563

It was a flop because of how badly it was hyped and how long it was expected.

All those relese date pushbacks, all that grandstanding. And then people played it and just thought "what the fuck is this dull shit?"
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>>100257563
It's likely going to be entirely rewritten to fit current-day nasuverse.

It'll be a very different experience from the original, I think.

Mahoyo had chunks from the original 1998 novel here mixed with rewritten things which made the writing really stand out, especially compared to the high-budget, quasi-cinematographic CG. It didn't bomb, it just didn't have the backing of "yet another addendum to fate"
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>>100257523
That's right. Tsuki fans are a bunch of wankers who would throw a tantrum and won't buy anything without precious fap-fodder.
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>>100257764

Now you are catching on.

And why accept anything less? It had H-scenes originally which everyone loved. The remake not having them would be a slap in the face to anyone who has ever supported TM.

The minute Nasu thinks that he is too good to make an eroge is the minute that TM crashes and burns.
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>>100248476
>Astolfo crossdressing.
>Jeanne in that skimpy outfit.
>Homu with twintails.
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>>100257851
I wonder if takeuchi has a hidden porn stash of non-saber tm characters, I've been wondering how some scenes would look redrawn for the remake.
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>>100257851
well atleast we're getting our Fate route remake..
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>>100257528

>>100257274 is better girl.
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>>100257764

You say that like fans wanting to be free of normalfag cancer is somehow a negative thing.
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>>100258106

They'd probably be completely redrawn. Some of the positions and angles that the girls were fucked in looked a bit impossible. Thats fine in the original since that had a shoestring budget and Takeuchi was still learning his craft but now they'd need to look better.
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>>100249025
>>100249097

But there's a LN with the Zero version of Prototype.
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>>100258170
>rin and blonde rin
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As long as this is still the OP music.

I get shivers everytime I listen to it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLwhkGubSxA
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>>100258018
Jeanne's outfit isn't that skimpy actually, the artist is just taking certainly liberties with it in that shot..
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>>100258262

Have the original version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS8XVOG-sNI

I remember learning how to play this on piano since it haunted me for so long after I first played the game
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>>100258262
>The Remake PV was in 2012
It was a really great time to enjoy T-M.
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>>100258245
>rin and gorilla
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>>100258363

Fuck. Those tracks hit me right in my Nostalgia organ.

I cant believe its been over 6.5 years since I first played both F/SN and Tsukihime
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uuuuh....uuuuh, I PICK Ciel
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>>100221524
This is the only one I found.
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>>100222369
>Not queen of cups
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>>100258681
Inferior Frenchwoman.
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I've been dying to start this series. Where should I start?
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>>100259616

1. Fate/Stay Night VN.
2. Fate/Zero Light novel or anime, either is acceptable.
3. Tsukihime VN.
4. Kagetsu Tohya VN.
5. Melty Blood 1 (and Re-ACT if you want).
6. Kara no Kyoukai anime movies.
7. Carnival Phantasm anime.
8. Anything else you like. Mahoutsukai no Yoru and Fate/Hollow Ataraxia if you can into moonspeak or are willing to wait a few months.


Do not:
watch the F/SN anime
watch the Tsukihime anime
read the Kara no Kyoukai light novels
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>>100259819
Is the anime really that bad?
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>>100259837

Been on /a/ for 5 minutes I see.
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>>100258107
Yes. Shiki will nail Seibah much better than Shirou ever could.
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>>100259819
What if I want to read Apocrypha?
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>>100259934
No, I've ignored these threads. Never thought about FS until recently.
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>>100259837
F/SN anime begins as a slideshow of redrawn CGs from the VN with DEEN transitions and turns into a clusterfuck mixing parts of each route.

Watch it for laughs after the VN. Or maybe not, it can fuck up some of your nasuverse knowledge
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>>100259616
Fate/Stay Night
Fate/Zero
*
Other materials in the Nasuverse that aren't part of the Fate series
*
Everything else in whatever order you feel is best

Fate/Extra can take the place of either asterisk.

Not sure about Fate/hollow ataraxia, as that one is almost finished being translated in full. I haven't read it, as I feel uneasy reading/downloading something that isn't completely translated yet. Just a neurosis of mine.
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>>100259975

Apocrypha and Extra can come any time after F/SN and Zero.
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The presence of two concurrent Fate threads is too important to me.

So how about them servants?
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>>100260933
Caster Medea is best original servant, closely followed by Rider Medusa
Ruler d'Arc best extended universe servant, followed by Assassin Semmy
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>>100260933
There are some fun ones to be found
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>>100259819
>read the Kara no Kyoukai light novels
Why, because cokesakto translation being like 30% made up?

Even so, Chapter 6 bu cokesakto is better than movie chapter 6 for example.
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>>100262049

Sure, it's.. readable, but it's practically fanfiction.
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>>100249297
So we got, Astolfo is someone favorite, Jack is Higashide favorite and Karna is Nasu favorite?
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>>100262086
Doesn't sound like Karna is getting a lot of love in the novels compared to CCC, where the guy was ecstatic as fuck about getting such a good master. Sure she was a Fujoshi NEET, but at the same time they had some brother sister thing going on where they could just rip back and forth.
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>>100261123
Siegfried a best
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>>100262336
I think Astolfo is Ototsugu Konoe's, the artist's, favorite.
You just can't seem to work on Fate/ without developing an attachment to at least one character it seem
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>>100262615

Did he mana transfer that ass?
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>>100262615
Well, in Apocrypha when he appears you have the narration always jizzing about how awesome he is both in v1 and v2.
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>>100262827
Not really, he was like a doting father to Jinako. Makes sense, he had a lot of sons (and almost all of them died).
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>>100262615
The last scene with Jinako and Karna was fucking emotive.
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>>100263090

I thought it was more like a big brother/little sister sort-of-goofy relationship.

Not romantic but maybe a casual bang
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>>100263417
She says he's like a father, and he corrects that he's much more like a brother, and a younger brother at that.

It's a fun exchange between them
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>>100263021
In the narration's defense, wouldn't you?
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>>100263737
I don't mind, I just find it funny.

Well, the Mahabharata is the same so maybe that's thhe point.
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Such a shame the various Nasu comments on each character will remain untranslated. Sounds he made a lot of in-jokes during them, like some "My Knight can't be this much of a failure" on Gawain's.
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Since this is a Fate/Typemoon thread, it's best to ask here.

Does anyone know what Kotomine's illness is called? Where he is basically a machine that cannot feel happiness except the pleasure he gets from the happiness from others and mapo tofu?

Also goes for Shirou. What would his "I can't feel happiness unless I see other people smiling" disorder be?
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>>100263864

It is.

Arjuna only won because he had two gods on his side. Karna would have killed him in about three hits.
His chariot EXPLODED when Krishna's protection ended.
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Best original Tsukihime: Arc
Best Melty Blood: Sion
Best Fate/Stay: Taiga
Best in all of Type-Moon: Shiki
But all Type-Moon girls are great except Ciel fuck Ciel
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>>100264076
How do you make a chariot explode, exactly?
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>>100264063
I'm pretty sure Shirou's is called Shonen Hero syndrome.
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>>100265055

Apparently Karna's blows were just that devastating.
Even when Krishna was defending it (by anchoring it to the ENTIRE UNIVERSE), Karna's strikes would make the vessel rock and shake.
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>>100264183
>Best Melty Blood: Sion
Mah nigga
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Lets get serious here for a minute

We all know that the best girl is Waver
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>>100265120

I just realize both Gil and Karna both fight on rather weaker state.
Karna can't use both of his armor and spear, while Gil is during rehability.
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>>100265214
I disagree.
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>>100265542
It is your right to do that but you are wrong.
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I think both of them are absolutely wonderful, but if I had to choose, I would probably pick Saber-chan.
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>>100264183
>Except Ciel
How bout fuck you.
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>>100265931
Not even best Frenchie anymore
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>>100262827
>she's not kneeling
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>>100265525
Isn't Apoc Karna technically better than CCC Karna ?
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>>100266720

Define "better". CCC has superior stats due to Jinako's amazing compatibility with him soul-wise, but her skill as a magus is low and her ability to supply prana is poor so he cannot utilize his weapons properly. Circumstances in the Moon Cell also lead to his complete removal of his invincibility armor.
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>>100266720
Better in stats

CCC Karna gave up his armor before fighting you so his master could live, and his prana reserve seems smaller as he can only manifest his lance in short bursts while just going hand to hand the rest of the time. In terms of feeling lucky though he's got it in CCC, and sometimes having better 'compatibility' with your master may get good results.

Here's some kind of chart.
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>>100266924
Oh right, aside from him lying a bit on his luck stat he does have generally better stats in CCC due to compatibility.
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>>100266934
Whos the Archer underneath Sakura Saber?
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>>100266934

>Prototype Rider
>Noble Phantasm: ABCDE

fucking Perseus how is that even fair
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>>100267150
Another Japanese figure Takeuchi recently made a genderbend of
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>>100267316
>>100267150
Oda Nobunaga
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Wondering who this servant is
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>>100266934
>>100267316
>>100267384
>Oda Nobunaga is a woman.
>Sakura Saber is Okita Sōji.
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>>100266934
>garcher's stats
damn, Isn't he supposed to be pretty powerful?
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>>100268250

Unlimited Blade Works gives him access to a lot of bullshit, plus allows him to ignore his actual Strength stat.
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>>100268202
>Oda Nobunaga is a woman.
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>>100268250
Emiya?

The mark of a servant is their NP at times, even with lousy stats they can turn everything around with the NP. Here's another such guy like that.
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>>100268250
Archer is the Batman of servants; he may be lacking in raw power, but he's got the skills and gadgets to pay the bills.
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>>100268366
Astolfo is also a good example, plenty of NPs
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>>100245457
How is fast wheels girls going?
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>>100268913
She can go Doc Ock using her wheel chair, or did you already know that?
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>>100218581
One choice and only one choice. L
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>>100269159
yeah. I want to actually read it though
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>>100268202

>Inb4 Foxtail new servant is Genbent Abe no Seimei
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>>100218675
From fate/extra.
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>>100218740
Yes pls
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>>100269508
It seems like a guy so far though

>>100269750
He's calling Extra fan-fiction, since that kind of thing is a bit prevalent to say recently.
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>>100218740
>>100269813
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>>100257077
Scans never. ;_;
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>>100270183
Maybe one day we'll get a F/A anime for more delicious Jeanne
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>>100270476
So much delicious Jeanne
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Rin is perfect.
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Posting the only tiers that matters to me.

Elder God Tier: Ryougi, Akiha, Alice
God Tier: Ilya, Sion, White Len, Rin, Lancer (STG)
High Tier: Kanata, Saber of Red
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>>100271114
Rin is perfect.

She is also prefect.
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>>100271664
Data Book confirms Gawain is a lolicon
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>>100271953
>Data Book confirms Gawain
I would like link to your source for...research purposes, anon.
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>>100258907
That's Lio, not Arc.
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>>100272186
Under his hates he wrote "Old wife", he makes it very clear in the game that he likes younger women as a fetish although the meaning of that is not entirely clear at the time, and in the data book his worst opponent is listed as "Alice"

He also sticks his foot in his mouth at one point if you give the wrong answer when the group is discussing Passionlips ability.
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>>100272380
>Likes: King Arthur
>Dislikes: Older wife
>Talents: Effective hit confirmation with the Holy sword
>Natural enemy: Alice
>Image Color: Silver

He's the butt of at least a few jokes this time around, but they really did wonders for his personality in CCC.
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>>100272380
Ooh, I see.

Note taken.
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>>100272758
Doesn't help that King Arthur is an eternally fifteen year old girl of course, in terms of his preference.
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>>100218581

Left. Pretty easily. Right is a moralfag.
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>>100272824
Eh, shouldn't that be eternally fourteen?
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>>100274052
Still a pedo either way.
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>>100271925
If Rin has one flaw, it's that she's too perfect.
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>>100274625
The proper label would be The Hero and Lolicon.

I'd hail him.
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>>100274963
She's hot
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>>100275798
She's hot
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>>100275841
She's hot
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>>100274052
Saber is like eternally fifteen or sixteen.



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