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Why didn't Natalia land the plane on the ocean, break the window and jump out?
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Did you try listening to the show?
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>>100208967
I did, there was no reason for her to at least no attemp a water landing. Kerry could destroy the plane after that.
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>>100208810
Bees, man. All those fucking bees.
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>>100209172
to at least attempt*
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>>100208810
>>100209172
Because it's pretty hard for someone like her with so little experience on it and the risks were so high.

Also, Natalia would put her survival first as that is her motto, and Kiritsugu knew that. She probably would never agree on it.
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>>100208810
>Kiritsugu summons Emiya
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>>100209249
I'm sure she would agree if she knew what plan Kerry had in mind...

Again, he could always destroy the plane regardless of the result of the water landing.
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>>100208810
Because that wouldn't be edgy enough.
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>>100209172
A single bee can easily slip through any opening, whether it was when the plane crashed or slipping through the door when Natalia escape.
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>>100208810
because her body was not made of swords
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>>100209471
Bees can also easily slip through an opening when the plane is blown up. It's not like they'll fall to death.
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>>100209438
Natalia always tries to survive no matter how, and her best way is to land the plane on the ground. That's her personality.
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It was a contrived scene designed to show that Kiritsugu would kill his friends and family. Uruboku is not a very good writer.
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>>100209519
"Natalia try to land on the ocean or i'll destroy the plane"

Seems like and easy choice for her.
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>>100209506
You can't slip through an explosion anon, these bees isn't fast enough.
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>>100209648
That would mean to take a risk and that's against how Kiritsugu thinks.

Yes, maybe there was other ways, but what he did was the way with the most chances to succeed. Personal feelings are irrelevant to Kiritsugu's way. He would cry later, and that's what he did.
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>>100209471
Do you think a few bees in the middle of the ocean are going to cause some kind of ghoul apocalypse?
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>>100209737
an rpg fired from the shoulder doesn't make that big of a boom to cover all of the plane to kill all the possible bees too
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>>100209737
It's an RPG, not a nuke.
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>>100209893
Why not, they were pretty near to New York.
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>>100209737

You think a Stinger would destroy a whole 747? Are you retarded? It would hit the engines, and the plane would split into pieces but it wouldn't magically evaporate
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>>100209737
>Thinking a MANPADS can destroy an entire airliner
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>>100209903
>>100209909
>>100209953
Fuel in the wings nigga.
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Why didn't Gilgamesh propose to Saber like a normal person instead of throwing swords at her?
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>>100209953
Actually, he fired to the gas tank.

>The missile hit squarely on the gas tank beneath the wings; Kiritsugu watched the plane tilt and fall downwards.
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Why didn't Natalia just summon Cthulu to save the plane?
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>>100210084
>>100210119

That's not how fucking Stingers work though
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>>100210152
To be fair, the novel never says it was a Stinger, that was ufotable.
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>>100210084
How would that ignite from a FIM-92's warhead, though?

>>100210119
MANPADS are IR guided, you can't pick out a singular part of something, only a heat signature. Hell, Stingers have trouble picking out different kinds of aircraft, let alone different parts of one.
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>>100210084
>>100210119
I guess Kerry had access to the rare fuel-seeking missiles.
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>>100208810
>Why didn't Angry Manjew just calm down?
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>>100210260

So what was it then? A magical fucking missile?

Point is it would have hit one of the engines, and the plane would have broken into pieces mid-air. Letting the bees out.
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>>100210099
Because sabre likes swords more than jewelry.
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Serious talk. How was Zouken able to get Sakura's adoption approved? Do Japanese family courts work differently, so anyone who wants to get rid of a kid can just get a random non-relative to adopt her no matter how unnecessary?
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>>100210281
>rare fuel-seeking missiles.
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>>100210275
>MANPADS are IR guided

Or maybe he calculated the flight path and the rocket projection. Which, maybe explained why he took a boat and fire the stinger at the open are.

>>100210386
Do you even know where the fuel is stored in 747? Its all in its wings span.
Hitting any part of the wing is enough to ignite it, and let the pressured cabin take care of the rest.
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>>100210434
The adoption was illegal, Kariya should have sued Zouken and Tokiomi.
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>Land plane in middle of nowhere
>Natalia breaks window in cockpit and escapes plane
>put c4 all around the outside of it
>blow it all up from a distance

I'm a genius
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>>100210588
All you need to do is graze the wing with a bullet and it'll burst into an inferno. A 747's wings are 100% fuel.
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>>100210514
>Or maybe he calculated the flight path and the rocket projection
Which is essentially impossible. Seriously, the maximum range of, say, an RPG-7 is 500-ish meters. That plane was easily 2,000 meters away, way out of the range of anything.

And Stongers have to be IR guided, there is no unguided mode to fire it in.

>Which, maybe explained why he took a boat and fire the stinger at the open are
What is backblast?
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>>100210553
Then why didn't Kariya just sue Zouken and Tokiomi instead of getting worms inside him?
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>>100210588
There's is a reason why people call the Hudson landing as 'Miracle'.
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>>100210796
Because calling it a miracle makes for an exciting headline. There's a reason why people throw around words like miracle when a pro sports team wins a match.
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>>100210698
Did you even read what I said?
Stinger have its own sets of path before it hits the target, if anything they are the easiest one to project compared to any conventional rpg.
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>>100210514

You are not hitting the fucking wing you are hitting the engine with a fragmentation warhead that meant to shred not blow up. These things are designed that if they suffer damage then don't take the whole plane with them.

>>100210652

You're a fucking idiot, shooting a fuel-tank does fucking nothing if you aren't using tracer rounds
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>>100210796
She doesn't need to land in the fucking water, just turn around and land and the ground
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>>100208810
why didn't they steer the plane into the water so that the bees would drown?
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>>100211024
the bees would get the fish before they die
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>>100210919
>Stinger have its own sets of path before it hits the target,
>A missile guided from the heat output by the engines that has a fragmentation warhead can set a path to the target that would ignite fuel
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>>100211173
Why didn't she burn the plane before she land the plane into the water? The fire will kill the bees first.
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> Why didn't Kirei just rape Kiritsugu?
Because it's not funny if he really discovers yuetsu.
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>>100211118
>DA HOLY GRAIL WAR MUST BE KEPT SECRET FROM DA MUGGLES
>Kiritsugu proceeds to Alahu-Ackbar a whole building in the middle of the city

Still the most retarded part of the show
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>>100211205
>>100210927
>fragmentation warhead

Kindly explain to me how this won't ignite a tank full of fuel?
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>>100209893
>Do you think a few bees in the middle of the ocean are going to cause some kind of ghoul apocalypse?

Bees have a maximum foraging range of 7-10 miles, and that isn't continuous flight (they make frequent stops along the way). The actual range of a bee over open water is insignificant.

So it didn't matter if the plane didn't explode, simply crashing and letting the bees escape out over the ocean would kill them all very quickly.
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Why did kiritsugu abandon his daughter and never saw her again for the rest of his life?
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>>100211173
the bees would be trapped in the plane, also
>zombie fish
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Forced drama and darkness, as expect of hackubuchi
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>>100211493
it's like gyo all over again
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>>100211447
It's not like anyone knows why the building blew up.
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>>100211447
>Implying anyone gives a fuck about the rules of the Holy Grail war.
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>>100211454
Easy: Red-hot shrapnel propelled by an explosive blast that takes place about a meter from the plane is not going to ignite fuel. It's only going to tear the engine to shreds, like it's supposed to.
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>>100211487
He was too weak to cross the barrier, the Einzbern basically banished him
Did you even last episode nigga
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>>100211454
self sealing fuel tanks that are inert because >nitrogen filled
also >>100211602
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>>100211602
And these hot shrapnel and the shredding won't cause a spark?
If its hot enough to go through metal plates, pretty sure its hot enough to ignite a fuel tanks.
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>>100211698
A spark is going to cause an explosion in a self-sealed fuel tank that's prepared in case this happens, from a warhead that isn't aiming for the fuel tanks?

>If its hot enough to go through metal plates
The heat doesn't send it through the engine, the momentum does. The idea is to cut up the turbines and fuck everything inside the engine up, not literally tear it to shreds.
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>>100210514
>>100210386

The fuel tanks on a 747 are in the wings anyway and would probably be compromised by a near-direct hit from a MANPADS, it's probably just a shitty translation.

Mind you, the bees would still be able to escape; it's not like airplanes just go up in a cinematic fireball because you happened to hit the fuel tank.
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>>100211915

Of course it would compromise them, but as you yourself state the plane wouldn't jut evaporate on the spot, the tail-section would defiantly still be intact with bees in it
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>>100211828
>>100211915
>self-sealed fuel tank that's prepared in case this happens

Isn't the same thing should happens with 9/11? Where the fuel cause the explosion and melts the building integrity.
So why can't it work with a stinger?

>it's not like airplanes just go up in a cinematic fireball because you happened to hit the fuel tank.

I've read somewhere about a plane incidents, where a fire pretty much burn everybody in the cabin due to the pressured air inside it.
Could the same thing possible happened here?
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Why didn't Kariya just use Berserker to kill Zouken?

What was Rider's last speech about? It made no sense and he did nothing the entire show except kill Assassin in an anti-climactic fashion.
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it for more feel
remember when the Episode airing ?
it's on Mothers days for nipland
just like the episode of Rider a day before Alexander the great dead
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>>100212136
Because zouken is literally all of the goddamn worms. You'd need to kill every last one to kill Zouken.
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>Natalia opens door in mid air
>all the bees leave
>they all die because they have no parachute
>land plane and not be dead

It was so easy Kerry
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>>100212076
>So why can't it work with a stinger?

Because it's in mid fucking air and the missile is aiming at the engine, the fuel won't have time to burn before the plane breaks into pieces

And again the warhead is designed to propel shrapnel into the engine and shred it, not detonate and set something on fire
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>>100212227
That reminds me. Can bees actually survive in a plane? I thought insects can't live in such a high place.
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>>100212076
9/11 planes had the whole plane crash into the buildings, fuel tanks included so they wouldn't be able to self-seal you nignog
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>>100208810
Bad writing by Urobutcher
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>>100212076

No, that's bullshit; planes are 'pressurized' in the sense that they have a higher atmospheric pressure than their surroundings, but that amounts to having an atmosphere equivalent to being at 6-8k feet altitude inside when you're cruising at FL410.
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It's like I'm really back in 2012.
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>>100212344
>>100212471
>not detonate and set something on fire

Stinger still retain the same principality that the old rpg have. A hot melting shrapnel.
Rather than a singular spot, it spray those shit in large enough patterns that would more than enough to hit the fuel tanks near the engines and cause an explosion.

These fuel explosion generate enough heatwaves to evaporate any bugs in the immediate vicinity.
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>>100212213
And the last piece of his soul is in Sakura's heart
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>>100212673
>Stinger still retain the same principality that the old rpg have. A hot melting shrapnel.
>RPG's
>Not firing HEAT warheads
>1961+53
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>>100212213
>What is a flamethrower
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>>100212673
modern fuel tanks are still made inert by carbon dioxide or nitrogen gas, you wouldn't be able to get a large explosions if at all with those tiny sprays of molten shrapnel

in 9/11 the fuel burned because it already left the tanks and were exposed to air so it burned
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>>100212408

Probably not; at altitude, you could solve the problem by shooting out a window and waiting.
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>>100213049
Ah yes, the "Snakes on a Plane" technique
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>>100212885
Were talking about 7 pound of hot melting metal rain here.
Surely it would be more than enough to cause a huge explosion
747 isn't exactly flawless, google Flight 800.



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