Tohka a shit.
Off to a bad start I see.
Is this the sluts thread?
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☑Origami a shit
☑Tohka a cute
☑Yoshinon is cool
☑Reine best girl
☑Kurumi best girl
☑Kotori best girl
☑Yoshino best girl
☑Tohka best girl
☑Rinne best girl
☑Origami a traitor
First for Kurumi
Tohka a best
Origami a shit!
Hurray for shitposting.
I want to share my icecream with her
No summary of Yamai lunchtime yet?
I think there is a summary in the archive.
Check the archive. It was done yesterday. Hasn't been added yet though
They made a Yoshino to highschool summary 2 threads ago. Why are those not added?
Great. I move away for a couple of days and this happens.
Searching the archive then. Hopefully someone will add them to the pastebin.
Since this is a Yoshino thread, someone should organise this summary of Yoshino Highschool.
Here is the thread: http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/100099696/#q100106208
Get to work. I need to sleep.
A lot of people missed it. The thread died around 100
Really? I was busy that day.
I like Natsumi.
Oh damn, that's kawaii as fuck.
Natsumi pls go.
This fanbase is sinking.
Seeing as Yoshino has a summary. Did the Yamai had a summary as well lurking in the archives?
Just ignore that. You're welcome to like anyone you choose.
This guy is sinking
You lost it. Just stop before you embarrass yourself further.
Read Rinne's explanation again, damn it it's sad.
no he was making a point of how pathetic you used the word meme.
though it seemed it flew right over you.
Miku has already filled that hole for me. I will just forget her.
Nope. Not gonna get me. She fucking ruined my Tohka route.
Uh, huh. Sure thing. Using an accurate and acceptably legit word in this context to describe what you were trying to do is pathetic.
You shitpost first, and I called what you were doing. It'll make this thread a lot better if you stop being so butthurt about people's opinion that you just have to force a meme to attack them.
You ready for the same thing with another new girl?
As a Tohkafag myself that was disappointing but it still doesn't take away what she did for Shidou (at least in my opinion).
I hope not since the game might end up being too similar but I imagine it could happen.
I lost you. I like Natsumi's lolibutt, and I'm not the one you started this with.
I have a bad feeling the DAL fanbase isn't going to survive S2.
Will it come down to the point where 70% of any given DAL thread will be full of *fag pls go, * a shit, and infighting will only be matter of when will it start. This seems inevitable.
The new girl is actually part of A fighting game. No Miku route for you faggots!
Nope.jpg I like her m/ style design already.
Just like any other harem fanbase.
There were plenty of shitstorms back in season 1. Don't worry. True fans will be around. Just ignore the low quality posts. People will get bored eventually
Why not say something like 'all girls are best girls'
Android loli by DEM?
Man, I wonder if I'm going to like the Kurumi route
Holy shit Yoshino looks even cuter in a school uniform. How is this even possible?
>>Natsumi Change Novel Illustrations Page
>>They are still using the old pic of Page 127
>you now realize we are almost halfway through January already. Time is moving fast! I can't wait. Don't let shitposting ruin the experience. I'm really excited for this season.
Why in gods name is this greentext. Damn it.
/a/ does have some harem fanbases that are more civil than not. Some also know how to have fun by indulging in their own jokes/trolling without being too militant.
It's never pleasant to weather out shitstorms. I think if most fans do something as simple as making decent posts more often, then it should be possible to control the flow of a thread in a positive direction.
Why don't we indeed. That's one way to avoid fanbase wars, and it's something you'd often see in some of the more civil harem fanbases.
>tfw I have been trying to say all girls are good from the start.
>tfw everyone ignores it or resorts to tohka bullying
All girls are best girls, only favorites. I'm sure that there's something appealing that the girls have.
Kotori is my favorite, but I don't dislike any of the other girls who all have their own nice things about them.
>all girls are good
Nope. One is a retard.
Showing Yoshino some love?
If only we could get everyone to agree to this
Man the opening on the pv is so catchy.
Kurumi > Tohka >= Kotori >= Yoshino >= everyone else
The rest I don't seem to have as much of an attachment as I do compared to Kurumi. They're all great girls, by the way.
DAL threads are still going to have shitposters. So something like that is unavoidable. It'd be great if everyone in the thread can agree to it.
Origami will never crawl up under your sheets and gently kiss you, before cuddling up to you and falling asleep.
>almost halfway through January
What the fuck. It was just Christmas. And volume 9 just came out. When in April do you guys think this will start?
Those eyes are still beautiful.
Thank you for not instigating the Houkifag.
Help make DAL threads better!
10th. Nah probably the 5th or something
Yoshino a cutest.
We can all agree this is date a slut though
you're a slut
You're mom a slut.
Does anyone actually like mana more than kotori?
Mana and that's about it.
I think she would be a better imouto with enough time.
Look at this cute slut.
Why is the loli always the lewdest?
Posting a Tohka pic while you said that is not a good idea.
Mana is best imouto.
Kotori is best fake imouto
Why is that
This is not a bad idea by itself as is either a Fighting Game or an RPG that lend well to DaL.
The only problem with that is that we don't have a complete list of the Spirits so a game released now would be missing a part of the puzzle.
This was not a problem for a Dating Sim but a Fighter kind of needs a well balanced roster to work at peak performance.
Rinne an the ARS Girl as secret characters
For people, is a subtle way to say Tohka is the best girl.
She is my favorite. That doesn't mean I don't like the others.
But the people will think you're trying to start a fight.
this thread just got good
sounds good to me.
What a slut! it's even more slut than Yoshino
Sorry but Kurumi looks cuter.
>more slut than Yoshino
Yoshino is a miracle of life and is therefore pure.
Can't find the Yamai one. Halp?
I like her body but Kotori's personality and voice is nicer
yamai lunchtime?? Not sure that one has been done.
>Kotori's personality and voice is nicer
Kotori is basically a non-blood related Kirino and she is not very nice.
There is a summary, some anon posted it a long time ago.
Not when Shidou is around.
How come any character that Tsunako illustrates automatically becomes best girl in my heart?
Why people keep comparing them?
>imouto and fake imouto
I like Mana, but I like Kotori more.
God damn some of the fighting used to be bad..
Imoutos are my weakness,even more if they are blood related.
>tfw I was in that thread
>Origami bait thread
Found your problem, good thing I ignored that thread.
Really? They said it was only a few threads ago. Was that for Yoshino Highschool?
Might as well give myself a heat attack before sleeping.
"All girls are best girls" is a lot more likely to appear if all the girls are willing to share the MC. Unfortunately that's highly unlikely, I only know of one such instance ever.
What is this supposed to mean?
Were the fixes done for this vecto?
More DaL walls please.
>Is your character a rabbit
>Does your character have blue hair
>Is your character small
>Is your character mostly silent
No way are Kotori's breasts that large.
DaL is no longer that obscure.
I see your bitches and raise you perfection.
I did it a long time ago. Very short one though.
You were not with us for the WR threads then.
Yoshino a worst.
You're the plebest.
Pretty sure Mio received quite a bit of trash talk.
Did not hang around them much though.
There were hardly any girl I did not like from that show though.
Thread still alive? Great.
Origami is best girl.
Is it wrong that I like them all?
Yeah, you are not supposed to like Origami.
Origami wasn't in that picture though.
I like Origami. 10/10. Would let her save me from monsters and carry me off in to the sunset.
If you talk about liking everyone then that includes Origami.
Oh right, I meant in that picture. I don't like Origami.
Too bad she can't protect anyone.
I guess ill just have to step up and Protect her. Now, where did I leave my white horse...
Origami is a big breasted beauty.
She is flat chested actually.
>thinking the anime breasts are real
Yoshino a slut
Nightmare a slut
Youmu wannabe a slut
Tohka a shit
Red hair bitch a shit
She is working for an evil organization now.
>スリーサイズ : B75 W55 H79
That's not cowtits.
yes it is stupid
Ill save her body and soul.
>white knighting a filthy traitor
>Picking country over your girl.
You disgust me.
She chose that path for herslef and betrayed everyone for power to accomplish her revenge.
Revenge turns me on. I am loving her more and more by the minute.
She will die in the next volume.
I dont think so, god is on her side.
Why is Origami so bad?
She is with the bad guys now, God is against her.
Good and evil are a matter of perspective.
I made a few changes, but even the latest version on dA has some dumb errors. The .svg file is on my other pc, when I turn it on I'll post a fixed version. Origami strong.
She in an organization that doesn't care about the normal people, does experiments on them and brainwash people, they are evil no matter how you see them.
I have no idea why someone would draw them together.
Same season. Maybe someone liked both of them.
Anyway, Kurumi looks damn hot in that outfit.
Kurumi looks ugly.
Tohka = NepNep
Kotori = Nowa
Who is the Origami of Neptunia?
Who else but White?
Well, that was a pretty short summary.
NepNep = NepNep
Tohka = Retard
Origami = worst girl.
Thats funny, because I dont care about normal people either.
Best loli, glad to see this thread is still alive.
Actually I'd say Kotori is more or a Blanc, they're both pretty unlikable cunts.
Those pure whites. Origami really is the best girl.
More like Date A Child, am I right?
Tohka is the real child in this series even Yoshino is more mature.
Disgusting, I need to fap to spirits now.
Stop being so cute. You are 2D and I am 3D, you will only break my heart.
No Origami pls.
>more Origami pls
You think Origami is cute in a world where Yoshino and Tohko exist?
Well the key word there is "and". Shes just more cute.
Go away, these threads need less Origami.
There's a surprising lack of Kurumi in this thread.
I thought this was the neptunia thread at first.
That girl looks like Plutia.
But Yoshino has blue hair.
Only DAL girls please.
Same face, similar hair style in swimsuit.
Are you going to kill Shidou again?
I wouldnt have to if that pussy died the first time.
>best AST soldier
The world is doomed.
Better luck next time then.
Ha, Origami is so useless as always.
She shouldn't try to be useful.
She should stop this revenge/ast/dem faggotry at all, and just be a classmate who love Shidou and trolls Tohka.
Too bad she is doing exactly the opposite in the novels.
Just give up, you're not a match for a spirit.
Kotori best imouto
Kotori best girl
God I love her proportions. Perfect body.
>Kotori best fake imouto
>not even the best imouto
Too small, Tohka is taller and has a better body.
I'm not even Kotori, but Mana a shit.
Fuck. Now I can't unsee that Yoshino's visible hand behind the green tube is on backwards. She has a left hand on her right arm. Any anon care to fix this?
>implying mana is any better
She got fucked up without actually helping in any way
>I'm not even Kotori
Much the easier to whisk her away.
>Implying this story is good enough to read.
>implying she wouldn't still be literally the worst
>Implying it isn't
Origami has militar training though but Tohko is easy to rape.
Ellen, Jessica and Origami are way worse.
I wouldn't even know where to get the novels
I didnt say I wanted chloroform her and stuff her in the back of my cargo van You need to learn a thing or two about whisking away a maiden.
DEM girls, they are a bunch of bitches.
Mana can't even marry Shido.
You know Shidou will spend time with Mana in her last moments.
>marry everyone except Origami
Sounds canon to me.
Shidou would probably heal her through some weird method.
I hope you're ready for a Mana route in the new game.
I hope Mana dies. Mana a shit.
>inb4 kotori pls
>some weird method
and that would be?
She willd die but that also means her victory.
Sending her back to DEM.
answering her final wish by giving her the D, sperm somehow infused with a small amount of kotori's power which will cause mana to come back from death?
Sending her corpse back to DEM?
Unless that Shidou can seal the magic inside her, I can't see a way to save Mana.
He has some healing powers, wouldn't be surprised if somehow he gains the ability to treat others later.
Mana wants Westcott dead, sending her back to DEM is not an option.
You've just lost it, don't you?
>From whence you came you shall remain
Mana will become Shidou's mana.
>not wanting to see a pure brother-sister relationship
I want to fuck Kotori in the shower.
What if she turns into a spirit, just like Kotori?
This is not "My little blood related sister can't be this Wizard".
Not really, you know how Shidou is, he will never leave Mana alone knowing she has a time limit.
Real sister spirit > Fake sister spirit
Mana is working for Ratatoskr now.
No. 2 or 6 are avaible.
Not flat enough.
2 for her
6 can be....Ai.
>no white Kotori
How can Mana becomes Shidou's mana if every step she takes she loses 1 HP?
It's like she is poisoned or stuff.
Please. Mana would kill herself.
Not that would change her lifespan so much.
That was too long for a pun Carlos.
I know. But it doesn't change the fact that she was literally worse than Hitler.
Why does Mana hate spirits again?
>Mana would kill herself
How so? she is not Origami.
She doesn't hate spirits, DEM just brainwashed her to think they are bad.
That's true, my bad.
She could get a date and a kiss from her belove nii-sama. What's not to like?
>Mana getting a deito
Kotori pls, dating spirits is your fucking idea, take responsibility.
>inb4 Shidou's sealing powers work with the magic surgery
>literally worse than Hitler
>just kills a couple of clones because she was brainwashed
Why not? it's a normal thing to do with your sister.
>talking like killing clones are the same of killing cockroaches
Jews asses on fire now.
>normal thing to do with a murderer
Kurumi can resurrect the clones.
Kotori killed a bunch of clones in her batlle with Kurumi.
He wants to save Kurumi though.
It was needed in order to protect Shido. Not because of some cock fight between girls.
Mana killed clones because she thought it was the right thing to do, blame DEM.
I want to sandwich my dick between Yoshino's smooth butt cheeks.
>not saving Kurumi
Spirits are jews though, especially Tohko.
But she is still too young for that.
Only clones deserve salvation.
My nigger. Yoshino has an amazing ass.
Well we were having a pretty calm and decent thread late last night. Nice to see you guys have reverted to shitposting again already...
It's mainly Mana and Origamifags now.
>two worst girls
Ohh Origami, why you so soft?
Isn't someone translating it, though? If nobody is doing, then maybe I'll write a long summary when I'm no longer lazy
She looks pretty flat in that pic, more than usual.
Pick one, we had luck with Spirit King Game and Shidou hunters.
She is flat. Anime gave breasts to her.
Guess they feed them good stuff at AST, see:
That's nothing, Yoshino is the softest.
Looking at her normally in the anime, shes seams accurate. But every now and then you get the one dumb asshole that cant into perspective, as demonstrated above.
She does have the best breasts.
I know but that bust looks like Kotori's size.
Yeah, thats the one. Its like im looking at a completely different character.
>that which as been seen, can not be unseen.
No, Kotori is even flatter.
Sitting in the back of lecture hall is great
DAL II soon.
I thought someone was doing Encore. Oh well. If I'm not lazy, then.
Maybe I should do Rinne Bathtime and Date A Quest as well.
Yeah, if you are a faggot.
No one can be so flat.
Youmu feels your pain Origami.
But it's cute for her. It fits her figure.
Pay attention and study more.
>implying you aren't in highschool
Only for white Kotori.
>implying people are allowed to use a laptop in high school
>you big dummy!
>impying the most famous tsunderes are not flat
>0 results found.
>implying mobile phones doesn't exist
I have all day.
I mean flat chest in white Kotori is cute but black Kotori would hit you if you look at her breasts.
So, do you want to stare at Kotori's breasts so bad?
>the most famous Tsunderes are abusive bitches
What is wrong with Japan?
Their population is declining.
Using a cell phone is high school was impossible. I always got caught.. College is a different story.
>having had cellphones when you were in highschool
What are you, 20? Fucking kids.
and that is the reason they like abusive Tsunderes?
>not having a cellphone
what a fag
>I always got caught
Why would you need a cellphone if nobody will call you anyway?
The theory is. Tsundere is popular because it reminds them of the girls they met in real life.
>Girls: GET LOST YOU FUCKING DIRTY CREEP!
>Otaku perspective: She must like me, shes being so Tsundere.
No, All Kurumis deserve salvation. You can't have one without the other.
I thought the point of 2D was the opposite but Japan is pretty weird.
Scary how you got my age spot on. I am indeed 20. Time to pay attention now. I await DAL II in April eagerly.
No, clones are good girls but the original is a tyrant but in order to save the clones the original must be saved sadly.
They pay 50 dollars for a dvd with 2 episodes. Yes they are weird.
Not him but Tohkofags are pretty young. Kurumifags are underage
No, fag. 3DPD means something. It means they are irredeemable.
If you've noticed, popular anime girls are all good at their cores. Don't even try equating them with 3DPD or honor 3DPD with attention.
W-What are you talking about? It's obvious that she likes me. Even better, she must love me. Yeah, that's right...Ha ha.
I've been staring at this little butt all morning.
Sorry, You dont seam to understand my post at all. I suggest you go back to school.
Why are you still posting? pay attention to the class retard.
>Tohkofags are pretty young
I feel old.
They even explain this in anime.
The gap between their tsun side and dere side is moe.
You must have the mentality of a 15yo.
Actually, you're the one that fails to understand anything that reminds people of 3DPD is disgusting by association. Go do your feminist patronizing somewhere else. Your idea makes me vomit.
Yeah, you are a retard. Im not even going to explain it to you.
That isn't bad at all. Seems around what I would assume the average /a/ age is. Excluding underage fags
I'm 24 and I love Kurumi for vastly different reasons than most Kurumifags do.
You have nothing to explain because you've made a completely stupid observation about people you don't know.
No its a pretty good generalization.
She has such a cute little butt, I wonder if she will be alright when finally gets the D.
Sounds like it hit a little to close to home for you.
Please don't project your inadequacy onto strangers. This is not NEET heaven /jp/.
Can you guys not act like you know what Japanese are like?
That tsundere theory is completely wrong anyway.
Im not that one being insecure on the internet.
Please stop fighting onii-chans.
Sure sure you aren't.
Natsumi never called Shidou onii-chan.
Why would she. They are not related.
I mean she would never say onii-chan, it's too embarrassing.
Go back to stalk Shidou.
Spirits go and stay go.
This is a spirit thread though.
No, you go.
What does it say?
What is the appeal of Origami? I don't get it.
Why does she make a better Rei then Rei?
The pleasure of being Origami inside.
>Not liking origami
Her head is off, her body looks like that of a blow up doll. Somehow her calves and ankles look near perfect. I can see someone has a fetish.
Yoshino = Kurumi > Tohka = Kotori > Reine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mana > Origami
It must feel horrible.
Who is dumber. Ichika or Shidou?
>Girls closest to shit.
Thanks for the reminder.
Shido isn't dumb, so the winner is Ichika.
Ichika no contest, Shidou is not dense at all.
Is this even a question? Ichika.
That face is disgusting, would fuck the body.
Ichika. Easily. Ask ISfans and they will agree as well.
Yoshino = Kurumi > Reine > Tohka = Kotori = Mana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Origami
I know right?
She looks like she put on weight. She needs to stop eating so many people, disgusting.
Yes, would kill innocents in dark alleyways with.
She is fatter than Tohka but Reine is the fattest.
I wonder about how many of the people Kurumi killed were actually innocents.
I find this thread's lack of Kurumi disturbing
Then she kills you.
But then we have to know what innocent is first.
>posting the original
At least post a good Kurumi.
She almost killed all the students in Shidou's school so I would say a lot.
I remember that. We thought it was good fap material, but then this happened.
I like tsunderes because they can't be honest with themselves.
No woman can resist the power of the D. She would be helpless.
How is that a good point?
She is not interested in normal humans.
Because he can self-insert.
She does indeed have an amazing butt, but I'd just like to point out that the hand is backwards.
Episode 9 I think, when she tried to use a spacequake to destroy the entire school to change Shidou's mind.
Hard shell soft core is always attractive.
Not if the girl is a violent cunt.
Hard and crunchy on the outside, soft and chewy on the inside?
Bipolarism is not attractive at all.
I think we should open her up and find out what she feels like on the inside.
Pathological liars are attractive to you?
I think we can all agree that Kotori a shit and the only spirit worse is Natsumi.
But Kurumi only kills rapists and assholes. Kurumi still a best
I like Tsunderes like Kurisu but despise the ones like Kirino and Houki.
fuck off mana
>only kills rapists and assholes
>almost destroy an entire school with innocent students
Kotori is not so bad but I do agree Natsumi is the worst.
She's only bluffing.
All spirits need to die. They do not belong in this world and only break sadness and death.
Would you marry a clock?
>shoot cat with toy guns.
>Getting turned inside out is a reasonable punishment.
I don't care, I'll marry them all
Origami pls go.
>almost destroy an entire school with innocent students
Just rewatched that scene at it was a time/energy drain aura made only to force Shidou into obedience (unsuccessfully). She wasn't really planning on killing everyone.
There is a difference between a psycho and a maniac killer.
People who enjoy such activities are just a drain of oxigen anyway.
Does this look like the face of death and sadness to you?
Well she believes in retributive justice. She probably changed some of her ways after getting her ass handed to her by Kotori.
She has inverted hands. I can not trust any creature with inverted hands. She cant even give you an honest handshake.
u wot m8?
Ohh she changed her ways. Im sure its fine now. I bet the parents of those kids feel relieved.
Her reasons to kill remind me of Hannibal Lecter.
>He is deeply offended by rudeness, and frequently kills people who have bad manners
not that anon, but look at the picture in >>100234492 -- behind the inner tube her right hand's thumb is at the top with her palm facing the tube. that's a left hand, but it's on her right arm.
Look at her hands.
Go away, you're dead.
Shes not as classy as Hannibal and frankly comparing her to him offends me.
Why does she have stars over her?
Body paint and she likes stars
This is even worse than yoshino legs...
I wonder if the fig is the same.
Like Linus Torvalds already said: people who get offended should be offended.
If he seals her, it doesn't matter what happens. She's still going to get a happy ending.
I admit that'd be kinda hilarious. At the same time, as a Yoshinofag that'd be horrifying.
>implying Kurumi will get a happy ending
>implying that Tachibana won't give his waifu a happy ending
Yoshinofags exist? What? How?
>implying Shiori is not Tachibana's waifu
Has Chapter 7 been translated yet
Murderous sluts are not welcome in DAL threads. Get out.
How about he turns her into a human?
-no longer a threat
-has blood type
-can have children
>implying Shiori isn't everyone's waifu
Are you new? Yoshinofags have been growing for a while.
Just once I'd like a show where the "bad girl" redeems herself and wins.
But not even human-spirits have nipples.
The theory is that Kurumi probably used to be human. There isn't enough information on her backstory.
What I said that turn her into a normal human. Without spirit powers.
Normal humans should have nipples.
But nobody has nipples in this series.
The clone had used her power on the entire school. It probably lowered their lifespans several.
The original had used a space-quake while taunting/laughing. It would've killed everyone if Kotori didn't step in and used her own space-quake. That was no bluff, she intended to kill those students just to prove a point. Don't forget she is still going around and harming other people, just because we don't see it doesn't she isn't killing innocents.
Well we have Origami as the bad girl but she will never win.
That's because Origami started out as being comic relief and she was never intended to win from the start.
Best girl never wins though... Unless its True Tears.
But she got two spinoffs and relevance in volume 10.
But they're NPCs. Who cares about NPCs?
Are you implying Origami is the best girl?
Kurumi is only a pawn in Phantom's game. Who cares about pawns?
Animals are NPCs too but Kurumi cares about them.
Well, as for being the best girl, theres not a lot of competition. Theres Origami and Mana and Mana is batshit crazy.
I agree Mana is best imouto but Origami is average at best.
I want to pinch that little butt.
/po/ is best girl.
Origami pls go.
Miku is best girl.
I think we should have a Tohka edition next.
Miku is an android. Please dont insinuate that shes some common, "girl". Pleb.
Go fuck yourself.
She is more real than your 2D waifu faggot.
>wanting a bullying thread
Why is loli Miku so perfect?
We had a fucking Natsumi thread yesterday. This is a Yoshino thread. Origami and Kurumi threads are always shit, that leaves only Tohka and Kotori.
Kotori a shit so I think we should make it a Tohka thread.
But Natsumi is not hated, she's the worst spirit but still too new to hate.
I don't remember Natsumi bullying in that thread.
That's because Kurumi threads are always shitposted.
Origami a shit.
Already made a new one. Origami.
Guess I'm done for the day then.
>making a dead thread
DOA threads are dead bro.
Dead or Alive?
What about a twins thread or a pure love thread?
Either of those would work. Some faggot has made an Origami thread now, so wait until that dies.
>>Twins as I still need Yamai Lunchtime
Just Do It
The link for the summary is already posted in the thread.
It's pretty short though.
Loli master race, Yoshino the cutest!
What do you think about Natsumi?
Loli Miku was the best lolified spirit.
and the lewdest.
Dead on arrival due to it being paper thread.
That explain why it has not uploaded to the pastebin.
Better than nothing at least.
>people posting in the Origami thread
Indeed. At least it tell you what is the story about and how Origami always makes herself relevant. Speaking of her..