Would there be any interest in a website like Batoto but without the censorship and a better reader, or is everyone going to hate me if I spend my time making this?
Boku no Pico
No, stop trying to make your epeen bigger.
Not right now man.
I'd be interest in a website like Batoto that also hosts raws.
No to the former, yes to the latter.
Batoto sucks, but most other sites have either horrible layout and slow loading speed or are Mangafox.
What does Batoto reject, again? H stuff, right?
Also what is wrong with the reader?
What I mean by "like Batoto" is an aggregator that supports the scanlation groups instead of trying to make money off their work. Simply so that they will want to use it.
>What does Batoto reject, again?
anything its advertisers don't like. like gantz.
Call it Ototab and upload only things they restrict.
Now that would be fun.
Might be bretty gud
We have mangatraders...
Thing is, Batoto has no clear guidelines and will delete a manga one day and allow it to be re-uploaded the other.
I keep forgetting they actually have a reader now.
But some manga I get from them have been noticeably downscaled, what's up with that?
I'm going to hate you either way.
Why do they restrict things anyway?
Advertisers don't want to be displayed next to lewd things
It's fucking hilarious to see them delete fucking Drifting Classroom of all things.
You're a bit late, anon.
I rarely use online readers, is it possible to change the background color on batoto? The white blinds me, I'm too used to honeyview.
This one? Never heard of it before but I'll check it out.
Why the fuck do people keep making online readers? Make something that allows you to download archived manga for fucks sake. And before you mention Mangatraders, they also restrict certain uploads. Use bittorrent if you have to. Ideally, the server could act as an initial seed on anything that dies out.
Maybe then there'd be a place to upload all the out of print licensed shit that never got more than a half-shit translation, since most manga websites frown upon anything that isn't "scanlated," which means you can't distribute scans of official translations.
Because it's illegal and thus an easy target.
How about just downloading your manga. Or are you fags still using 20GB hard drives?
Online readers are illegal period you fucking idiot.
I think people should just use nyaa more when it comes to manga.
But when it's unlicensed it's not really a problem since the creators don't sell to English audiences anyway. Once you're talking licensed stuff it becomes a problem.
because Google gives the online reader publishers advertiserbux for all those hits they rake up, and it's easy so easy to set them up they can literally be replaced at the drop of a hat if they get DMC'd and have to delete all their Naruto/Bleach/One Piece
So what you're saying is you'd rather make the umpteenth shitty online reader instead of making something useful, got it.
There is a reason why Batoto, Mangatraders, et al remove manga. It's because they get requests to take it down. If you're planning on making an online reader that hosts everything that they don't, then guess what, you're already facing potential legal action because those are the assets that are being protected.
I see your point, but the fact is that Batoto doesn't only remove licensed stuff, it also removes manga that its advertisers asks it to remove.
That's far fewer series than what get requested to be taken down. Nobody is going to want to use your shitty online reader that has 5 more series than Batoto. If you're already hosting things that advertisers and IP holders don't want you hosting, you may as well go full out with it. Otherwise you're just remaking Batoto.
Thing is, the best way to to download it is through reader sites.
Not really. Online readers very often has outdated translations because they just grab the first speed scanlation available and leave that up.
I believe Daiz at one point was thinking about making manga release more prominent on Nyaa.
I don't know how their reader works but they did have some kind of file size limits for the archives.
I really try to use it as little as possible though, their download speeds are absolutely horrible.
Streaming is not illegal, at least in Germany. I wonder how that would translate to online readers.
VIEWING steams is not illegal. That goes for anything. You're not going to get in legal trouble for simply downloading protected content. It's distributing it that gets people fucked. That includes the people operating the stream, which is very illegal.
And yet To Love Ru Darkness will never be removed.
>If they don't catch you it's not illegal
Distributing ALWAYS carries harsher penalties than simply consuming. The reason why bittorrent users occasionally face legal action is because bittorrent clients automatically distribute the content. That allows IP holders to stand in court and make up ridiculous amounts of lost damages that they pin on the person distributing. If you simply downloaded something, they couldn't do that. The most damage you could have done is the price of one copy of whatever you downloaded. Obviously they're not going to take you to court over $20.
Batoto's advertisers only request "unpopular" manga to be removed, even their advertisers aren't stupid enough to have something like To Love Ru removed because you can kiss your hits goodbye.
hypothetically, if one wanted to host licensed manga, where would be the best place to do it from? china or something?
There are several countries that are not part of any form of International Copyright Treaty. Those would probably be your best bet. The problem with those types of countries is that they're generally very corrupt, and your website and information might be sold to whatever agency is trying to nail you regardless. So, hypothetically, someone should keep their information very secret and only use non-traceable funding methods (like prepaid credit cards not linked to your identity), fake information, and never connect to the server directly with a home internet connection. In addition to this, it would probably be wise to not store any identifying information about contributors to the site, especially any that have remotely any tie to yourself. If you are particularly paranoid, you could set the site up as an i2p eepSite, which is similar to a Tor Hidden Node, except on i2p, which unlike Tor is a network that is designed to handle the stresses of content delivery.
And then close down the server in 4 months because you run out of money?
>50-50% chance that they fuck up the release order, miss one or two page, or just upload wrong series
>using online manga readers
Why is this allowed? It's in the same category as streaming shit.
What's the advantage in downloading when it's the same fucking image you're watching?
To Love Ru doesn't have sex
A better reader, no load time and you can read it offline. Not the same anon though, I don't share his retarded opinion that it's as bad as streaming.
The image is fullscreen. It's fullscreen with a good resampling algorithm used. You don't have to wait for pages to load. You can view it offline on any device. Like an actual manga volume, you're not tied to the internet if you want to read it. You can view it on an e-ink reader, like you SHOULD BE DOING. You have it immediately available for speculation threads, for reference in threads about an older series you've already read, on to check on something pertaining the series during a thread. You can easily post pages that aren't watermarked, downscaled, and ridden with JPEG artifacts in threads related to it. You don't have to deal with whatever clunky reader they're trying to shove in your face (MComix is better than any online reader ever made).
Also, unlike anime, archiving manga is not big deal. It's relatively tiny, and you can store hundreds of series on a 1TB HDD. So "I don't have the space!" isn't an excuse.
yeah, no thanks.
And your reason for that is?
what for? i generally don't re-read a manga that i've completed. if i do it's years after the first time.
Because discussing the manga in threads is a hell of a lot easier if you actually have it around. Especially for ongoing series.
I work in a scanlation group and I read my manga online. I dont usually read things again and you can preload pages seamlessly on your browser anyway. But if you like hoarding stuff, then by all means go and download it. Been thinking of uploading releases to nyaa so that those people would be able to use the rss feed.
If there's a new mango reading site with a non- monopolised HV-like game, count me in.
true, that makes sense.
>non- monopolised HV-like game
What exactly do you mean by this?
Batoto's reader is fine, but if you want to do something like that for the manga they refuse to upload then go ahead.
>with a non- monopolised HV-like game, count me in.
Wait, are you saying you actually WANT a silly HV game?
I'd also be interested in this, since raws are kind of a pain to find.
>What's the advantage in downloading when it's the same fucking image you're watching?
Because you need to download it anyways in order to view it.
> google mana name + senmanga
> google manga name + a certain coffee shop
> google manga name + baka , find manga name in chinese, google manga name in chinese
Hentai-Verse from Sad Panda
I think this needs a bump.
I've heard from Daiz himself how downloading manga compared to anime is complete bullshit.
>I've heard from Daiz himself
I lol'd. But it's true, it's a piss poor comparison. I download my manga for several reasons, usually in volume batches if available, but I often use online readers if I'm just checking something out. Would never do that with streaming.
>VIEWING steams is not illegal.
You are a fucking retard.
>downloading manga compared to anime is complete bullshit.
If you're talking about how downloading manga is generally a worse experience than downloading anime then that's absolutely right.
>it's in the same category as streaming
Are you fucking serious?
That was exactly what I meant.
When I was desperate to save a doujin I'd literally just save the fucking full size.