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COUNTERACTION RISING
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>>100169492
no you fucking dont!
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the CG in the latest episode looked horrible.
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>>100169630
>not liking fish butts
Get out with your shit taste.
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Filthy dumb, lander scum.
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SOMEBODY THAT I USED TO KNOW
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WHEN I WAS
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RULES OF NATURE
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SHAKE IT LIKE A POLOROID PICTURE
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>>100170125
AND THEY RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES UP
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>>100170328

WITH THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE
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>>100170066
A YOUNG BOY
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>>100170394

MY OTOOSAN
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>>100170362
ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE for a while
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>>100170448
NO CHOICE!
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>>100170521
GOT TO FOLLOW THE LAWS OF LIFE
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AND IT WILL FLOW, LIKE A FLOOD OF RAIN
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>>100169492
YEAH WE ARE READY FOR THE PUNCHLINE
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AND THE CATS IN THE CRADLE AND THE SILVER SPOOON
LITTLE BOY BLUE AND THE MAN ON THE MOON
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SHINING FINGAAAH
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>>100169977
I don't understand why no one has tried to add him as a friend till now.
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>>100169977
The landers have been the most fun and likeable characters thus far: see Rudy and NEET princess.
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>>100169977
This filthy lander scum will be giving miss cutie freckles the d.
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ASS ASS TITTIES TITTIES ASS N TITTIES
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ARE YOU READY FOR THE TAKE DOWN?
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>>100170893
BIG BOOTY BITCHES THAT NEED TO WASH UP
DON'T BE MAD WHEN I DON'T WANNA FUCK
YOU NEED SOAP AND WATER SOAP AND WATER SOAP AND WATER SOAP AND WATER
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>>100170800

he doesn't really have the best personality. I'm sure most people view him as a elitist ass who's still low level
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I'M BLUE DABADEE DABADIE
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Is it true that he receives a lot less experience than adventurers?
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>animeme
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>>100171042
A quarter
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>>100170966
Can the other 4 people in the group see his stats (esp. HP and MP) when he's not a friend?
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>>100171151
Yes, have you never been in a party with an NPC before?
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Why is this anime discriminating against monks and summoners? Nobody relevant is a monk or summoner.
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>>100171201
I don't play MMO... I have no self-control. If I start, I'd spend 20 hours a day doing it.
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Login you damned one
Crush the won't you compromise
The noise comes and we are ready to bow
We got the antidote for the jammed and hypnotized
Rend the lie that covers
Who's the real sucka now?
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god damn i had a dream last night where serrarrar's dog (rudy) chomped on my ankle and whilst i was bleeding to death Nyanta was chasing me trying to kill me and when i found Marielle she said she was too busy with work to phone an ambulance

what the fuck man
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>>100171086
So it makes sense that he "acts" all experienced and shit?
He actually has fought a lot more than the other newbies.
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I still don't understand where they get some of the WOW WOW in some of the OP. Hell, some of it sounds more like a whoa-oh in some of it. Are nips really this bad at english and my ears that poor?
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>>100171318
He was level 20 right?
If he only recieves a quarter EXP he would be level 40 as and adventurer if the exp requirements go exponential like most MMO's.
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>>100171222
Do summons have sentience like other npcs now?
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RED SUN
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How come they don't get a new OP and ED?
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>>100171222
>discriminating class types that often require skill and gear to even be competitive and never will be top tier
Such is a life of a hybrid or a gimmick class.
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>wanting to change the OP
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>>100171419
This is one of the reasons why I want to see summoners. At least some of the summons should have sentience, unless the summoner decides to go full necromancer or something.

Same for monks. Monks supposedly use specific weapons, and they seem to be based off of warrior monks. However nothing about this has bene revealed.
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>>100171415
24
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>>100170757
KURISTINAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>100171438
No, thanks.
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>>100171438

Yes. Not only that, but he also feels pain as well. Adventurers treat a mortal wound like a stubbed toe. Not Rudy.

Reminder that this guy took an arrow to the head and didn't give a shit (he doesn't catch that arrow in the novel).

Rudy is hard as fuck.
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>>100171438
NHK never do that.
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>>100171691
Why is Miss Minori, a healer, the last in retreating?
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>>100171775

Probably for the same reason they had a sorcerer out in front.

Scrubs.

The novel at least gives a good reason for why she doesn't speak up during the strategy session. She's level 21, everyone else way outlevels her so she feels like the least experienced. Then when they fuck up, she's afraid that saying what they did wrong would sound like she was making excuses for her low level.
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>>100171775

Heals require cast time, so she's probably spamming flash heals to keep everyone else barely alive. This isn't a WoW dungeon where you can just hop to the next room to reset aggro.
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>>100171870

...Are WoW dungeons really like that now?

Back in my day, the mobs didn't quit until you were dead.
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>>100171265
>Nyanta was chasing me trying to kill me

Why?
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>>100171775
Because the others are faster.
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>>100171852
People need to stop posting that Minori set before I have a moral crisis
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>>100172296
Wait, there are more?
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>>100172296
There's a set?
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>morals
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>>100171907
There were reset points in the old instances as well. Just extremely few. Same could be said about most instances until Cataclysm. Maybe they really did fuck it up that bad in Pandas.
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>>100172506
>>100172463
Its like a full sketch of five and a serrara one as well
but that is beside the point for once this wasn't reverse psychology
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>>100172502
Come on...
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>>100171852
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>>100172563
Oh my...
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>>100169977
Too fabulous for you, he is great and hilarious.
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I want to impregnate Minori in front of Tohya.
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>>100172675
I never understood that side ponytail thing

is she one of those wolf people in game and that's her ear or it is really just a random tiny side ponytail?
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>>100171438
They couldn't top them because they were so good, no need to change them.
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>>100172763
>not chubby serararar

fucking DDDropped
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>>100172790
>not liking side ponytails
>needing an explanation
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>>100172790
Random side ponytail.
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>>100172815
At least she has massive hips
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>>100172790
Its popular between girls in japan
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I dropped this on episode four. Is it still Thorn Bind: The Game: The Animation?
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>>100172802
Well... are there more? Isuzu's would be cool too.
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>>100173137

The whole "Rescue Serara" arc is just an intro to the world and the setting

Shit doesn't get real until they get back

Just watch until episode 8, if you don't like it after they found the Round Table you aren't gonna like it at all
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>>100173153
Not yet.
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>>100171318

I dont think Grinding more means more experience, he has played for longer but that doesnt mean hes better, also he has the advantage that he has always fought in game, while most adventurers had to relearn the game.
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>>100173137
You dropped it because a high level support character spams his best combat support spell?

Man, you have never played an MMO, have you?
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>>100173137
It's Politics, n00bs and Shiroe the hacker the anime at the moment.
Fun as fuck.
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>>100173250
It's not a game anymore though. He wasn't playing, he's actually been fighting life and death battles
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>>100171419
>>100171546

We saw the black sword summoners when LH moved to their HQ, they had cosplays.
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I like the show but I wish the pacing would be slightly (or much) faster.
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Fattest of butts.
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>>100173319
The suffering she caused miss minori was just too painful to read
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>>100171546
Demikas was a monk. Shiroe's old waifu is one too.
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>>100173137

Hoo, thorn bind hostage on your eyes~

captcha: ngerofin catastrophe
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How much HP does a girl lose if you break her hymen?
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>>100173297
Thats what i mean by advantage, he doesnt have the problem most guys getting into MMOs have, he knows how to fight from the beggining, and plays it safe.
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>>100173360
poor minori
At least Serrara will never have a shot either. Right?
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>>100172779
I want to impregnate Minori in front of you.
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>>100173492
100 hp, with a bleed effect of 100 hp over 30 mins
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>>100173571
I want to impregnate you in front of the anon you're ntr'ing.
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>>100173653
forgot the paralysis debuff
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>>100173714
I want to impregnate Shiroe in front of Akatsuki
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>>100173492

None. Otherwise, you couldn't rape someone in town without the Guard coming to destroy your anus.
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>>100173815
you mean you can do it outside of the town area?
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>>100173815
Will the Guard even come down if we are having a romantic intercourse while holding hands in missionary position, but I happen to do a few HP damage to her when taking her purity?
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>>100172763
STOP
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>>100173735
But that would be gay
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>>100173985
Not if I pretend Shiroe is a girl
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>>100173985
Only if the balls touch
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>>100173881

You can't do HP damage with normal sex. Maybe if you broke out the whips, paddles, and hot candle wax, but otherwise, the Guard would be teleporting into people's bedrooms all the time and hauling naked dudes off to jail.
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>>100170814
But she's not into bestiality.
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>>100174077
We all know that's not how it works
As long as you don't kiss him you're fine
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>>100174248
source.
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>>100172675
>>100172763
Have they started ovulating yet?
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>>100174128
Oh god, you just made me realize, since pain is numbed for adventurers, imagine the masochists who got caught in the Catastrophe
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>>100174309
Minori is 14, Serara is 19 and Akatsuki is 20
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>>100172815
this guy gets it
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>>100171852
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>>100172672

Where is the Tetra set.

I demand a Tetra set.
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>>100174569
Minori acts 20, Serara acts 14 and Akatsuki acts 19.
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>>100174569
>Serara is 19
I thought she was high school.
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>>100174669
19 is High School
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>>100173352

Minori brought it upon herself. She is certain Imouto-zoned.
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>>100174654
>Tetra set
My dick wouldnt survive.
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>>100174705
Where... I graduated at 17
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>>100174705
For shortbussers like you, maybe. I was 17 when i matriculated to university.
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>>100174705
only you're heldback a year
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>>100174569
>Minori is 14
What is the age of consent in Eastal?
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>>100174849
Level 14 and up
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>>100171852
Sooooo it all comes down to MUH SENPAI RESPECT.

Nippon no strong.
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>>100174705
Only if you're stupid.
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>>100174705
this holds true for east coast Amerifats, no idea about other countries or areas
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>>100174705
I am a snownigger and I can confirm this.
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>>100172802
Too old.
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>>100175059
>>100175058
>>100174827
>>100174765
>>100174759
Well then either Serara got held back or Japan has Highschool till 19.
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>>100175248
Why are you so sure Serara is in highschool? Do you have sauce?
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>>100175248
>Serrara got held back
Colour me surprised
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>>100175344
It's said so in the damn novels, Serara and Isuzu are high school girls.
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>>100175344

Not that guy, but since I was just reading it:

>Nyanta sat on a chair by the dining table and commented casually. His words made Serara's temperature rise.

>Nyanta referred to himself as an old man.

>From the feeling of his voice, Nyanta was much older than Serara. Serara, who was in her 2nd year of high school, would not have been surprised if Nyanta was twice her age.
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>>100175433
You would have thought serarraar would be the youngest with the way she acts
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>>100175473
>2nd year highschool
>19
Why
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>>100175473
Second year of high school in Japan is eleventh grade in the states; that would make Serara somewhere between 15 and 17.
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>>100175473
Pretty sure last time I checked 2nd year of highschool was 17 in Nipland

Source; I read a lot of school manga
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>>100174920
>30s
too old unless 'mentoring' system
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>>100175525
The anon who said she was 19 was posting lies on the internet.
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>>100175393
>Colour
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>>100175573

Goddammit, I said I'm not that guy! Let's all be mad at him together!
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all this serarar talk and still no image dumps.
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>>100175542
>here between 15 and 17.
>>100175573
>2nd year of highschool was 17
This seems right

>>100175637
>Doesn't know how to spell because neither does his country
Colour me surprised faggot
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>>100175726
>>here between 15 and 17.

Not sure what you're implying here. I was a high school junior at 15 - nearly a decade ago.
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>>100175486

It's possible she's only 15. That would be just a year older than Minori.
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>>100175726
I'm sorry, my country isn't the one with with cockney.
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>>100175809
I was talking about her age?
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>>100175810
Would you feed Serara?

Don't lewd
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Post Serarump.
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>>100175781
I don't know, but she seems awfully familiar. Maybe it's the hair.
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>>100175889
Ah; misinterpreted the greentext. Carry on.
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>>100175841
Neither is mine m8
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>>100175781
>>100175919
The puffy hair?
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>>100175525
Legal issues.
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>>100175941
Ill glass ya, ya cunt
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>>100176183
What legal issues? You realize the AoC in Japan is like 13 right?
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>>100175892
Why does the fish reads watashi?
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>>100176569
Yes but the Age of Fat is 17
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>>100175919
It's Serara from Log Horizon.
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>>100176625

You might as well ask why it's saying "Thank you" over and over.
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>>100175919
>being this new
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>>100176954
holy fucking shit, I wouldn't have guessed?
stay krusty, /a/
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>>100169977
Every time I see his obnoxious fucking face, I want pic related to happen.
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>>100175573
What manga isn't highschool setting nowadays.
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>>100172763
>>100172802
I hope there will be an Isuzu set
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best woman
best girl
best horizon
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>>100177648

My brother of understanding and taste
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>>100177648
>Liking guuurl gamurz

She would be insufferable in real life and you know it
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>>100177797

worst elf
worst guild leader
worst level 90
wouldn't ever
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>>100177784
This shit is beyond lewd.
Any Isuzu?
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>>100177906
not yet
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>>100177872

>Bringing 3D into it

Stay pleb

>>100177873

>That fucking image

I don't even know where to start with you, m8
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>>100177935
Are these from pixiv?
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>>100177797
>>100177648
>Liking disgusting cowtits on a rotten slut
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minori likes shiori's cock and meanwhile akatsuki can only watch his cock sucked by minori

poor akatsuki
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>>100177470
log horizon
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>>100178109

I will fight you loli-lovers until the day I die

I swear it
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>>100178276
Does it even have a manga adaption yet?
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>>100178241
>Sadly the exact opposite of how things will go
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>>100178359

It has four
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>>100177797
that thumbnail make it look like she has something sticking out of her ass
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>>100177784
>Hey, Anon-kun, I put on this swimsuit for you but it's embarrassing after all... What do you think?
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>>100178451
Noatsugu's creampie
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Summoners kinda bring up interesting speculation
Like, are summons simply teleported under the control of the summoner from a place X that has a n infinite amount of the buggers?
Or do they work kinda like mobs/adventurers?
Do their psyche/soul go back to the summoner once their body is defeated?
Or maybe the summoner uses mana to link the summon's psyche to a conjured physical body? If this is true, can a summoner overskill into linking the summoner's psyche with another summoner's body?
Can a summoner overskill into enslaving monsters that wouldn't normally be summonable, maybe with some complicated mana hijinx akin to what Shiroe does later on and maybe also with the help of a scribe-made contract?
This is also probably why there's so many summoners doing summoner stuff who are relevant in the main plot: it's fucking complicated.
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>>100181715
they are contracted beings
I guess they work like summons in Naruto when they have their own dimension and are summoned/unsummoned to there.
>Cast Animate Dead
>contract skeletalves
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>>100182140
As in every summoner has his summonable being that gets teleported/linked to a copypasted body from his realm or there's only 1 for each kind that simply gives every summoner with which it has a contract to a copypasted version of himself when the summoner summons it?
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So this anime is like SAO right?
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>>100181715
I think the summoner in The Best Party Ever has a contract with a raid boss dragon, yeah.
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> tfw Misa has diabetes irl
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>>100183978
Better question, why does Log Horizon have some many miracles of the universe?
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>>100184118
it is an unanswerable question
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>>100184118
>Better question, why does Log Horizon have some many miracles of the universe?

It's an unreal universe INSIDE another unreal universe.

We have to go deeper.
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>>100185065
how about a scribe that starts to make fictional universe based on his original universe while being in the unreal universe?
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>>100185576
Shiroe makes a new crafting subclass "Game Designer".

Gets all the Landers addicted to boardgames then wargames then table-top RPGs then finally MMORPGs.
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>>100185065
Does the miracle rate stack additively or multiplicatively?
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>>100185738

This is a good question and should be investigated.
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>>100170752
FUCK YOU! I have had this stuck in my head for weeks now! WHAT THE FUCK!? Why is this even here?!!
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>>100185666
Maybe "Game Designer" actually makes the Elder Tale TRPG as an educational game to teach the Landers on how the Adventures see things...
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>>100185764
Wait.... this isn't the crescent moon spin off, or is it?
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>>100186039
Anon, pls
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>>100178340
Are you the same guy from the other LH thread who doesn't like lolis? That guy was a moralfag.
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W-will we get some Tetra this season?
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>>100186493
No.
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>>100186222
>>100186294
>>100186505
>>100186573
>>100186615

Alto, I ...
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>>100186493
We'll be like if we manage to get some fluffy
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>>100186638
Dibs
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>>100174705
True, high school is 5 years
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So is Rudy an NPC?
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>>100186771
Are slowpokes worth any XP?
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>>100186807
Depends on what your level is
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>>100186493

No.

Life is fucking bitter.
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>>100174248
source
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>>100186493
>>100186910

>Hasn't read the manga or novels
>Don't know what I'm missing
Feels good being lazy right now
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Come to think of it, what is the word for a dude trapped in a ladies' body? It's not technically a trap...Japan must have a term for it though.
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>>100187217

I shall inform you as to what you are missing out on.

A character named Tetra who was a guy in the normal world but logged in on his female human Cleric when the Apocalypse happened. This means that for all intents and purposes, he is now a female in a completely female body. When Shiroe and co meet her, its been quite a few months since the Apocalypse and the transition between a guy being trapped in a female body and that person becomming more used to and happy being female has happened.

Tetra is now a cute as fuck teasing tomboy who wants the Naotsugu dick.
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>>100186836
Is this a quest?
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>>100187392
Do you people actually like this? That's just gay.
Not even trolling.
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>>100187392
>Panic.png
I dunno about THAT one buddy
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>>100187459
>Do people actually like this
First day on /a/?

Also, it isnt gay in the slightest. Tetra is completely female and considers herself a straight female.
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>>100187217
>reading manga
>ever
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>>100187459
Fag.
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>>100187549
Usually I totally would if there was more to it than what's being adapted. LH being a prime example of such a thing but I'm reading other stuff right now and I can't be bothered.

>>100187534
Not that guy but... there are a lot of people who aren't straight females that would like to tell you otherwise here too you know.
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>>100187534
No I've been here for at least 4 months. I see this shit all the time. It does not mean I will accept this idiocy. (no offense) But to me, that's the same as fucking a tranny.
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>>100187845
>(no offense)
So new it hurts.

Just accept that there are people who don't share your particular fetish and have fetishes that you don't share.
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>>100187845
>at least 4 months

Ooooooh, sorry Mr "Oldfag".

And it is in no way the same, please try to grow up.
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>>100187845
Welcome to /a/, where everybody would fuck a tranny except you
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>>100187906
>Just accept that there are people who don't share your particular fetish and have fetishes that you don't share.

No shit, Captain. I can't understand that one though. Seriously I label it as gay.
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ya know

I wonder what crusty did as soon as the apocalypse hit

do a raid?
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>>100187994
>Seriously I label it as gay.
And this is different from any other fetish which you don't share because ... ?
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>>100187935
Please try and stick your dick in an actual female. Or explain. This is exactly what I'm talking about. You tranny lovers will just say "Oh yah it's not gay m8" but won't elaborate.
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>>100187994

But it isnt gay.

Its entirely female biologically from the day it entered existance. It cant be gay.
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>>100187845

I'm not gay but I'd suck a few dicks. Or maybe a lot.
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Sexuality is a lie
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>>100187845
>4 months.

Oh my fucking god, lurk more you stupid shit.

>>100188082

nobody cares
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>>100188082
>not being gay
You haven't been here long enough.
Don't worry, though, you'll turn gay if you stay for a while.
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>>100186910
We better be getting that season 2. ;_;
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>>100188163
nou
>nobody cares

Thanks Double Standard man.
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Thanks for inviting these stuck up newfags Mamare-san
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>>100188179
Okay this.
This is pretty much what I've gotten from being here. I'm done. Fuck you fags, enjoy your transexual fetishes.
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>>100188157
>Sexuality is a lie

A sexy lie.
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>>100188082
Tetra IS an actual female, Normalfag-kun.
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>>100188290
>Fuck you fags, enjoy your transexual fetishes.

Thanks, we will.
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>>100188290
Sure you don't want a blowjob before you leave?
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>>100188082
She's biologically female therefore she is a female unlike transexuals.
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>>100188290

Good riddance.
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>>100188306
Didn't that guy say Tetra is male IRL, who got trapped in his female character? So wouldn't Tetra still be a dude?
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>>100188474
IRL is gone forever.
Tetra is whatever Tetra is.
Welcome to trans-humanism.
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>Visit a board where lolicons is a norm
>turned off by faggots
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>>100188290
>transexual

I'm inordinately amused, I must say, by the fact that you accidentally hit on the alternate spelling for that word favored by LGBT activists who don't want to imply that being "trans" involves being between two "more natural" states.

Seriously, the PC term now is "transexual" instead of "transsexual," with the made-up root "tran," to get away from the "trans" etymology.
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>>100188474
Its a female body with a bisexual psyche.
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>>100188474
Only psychologically, and so far as we know their personalities start to adapt to their new bodies in Elder Tales. So Tetra is female by the point they meet her in the books. Not at all a tranny.
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>>100188474

How?

Anyone who logged in as a character of the opposite sex gradually over the couse of the months undergoes mental changes that help them fit into their new sex.

So, Tetra is biologically 100% female and now is entirely comfortable and happy with it, picking up feminine traits and personality quirks as the months have gone by.
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>>100188546

What's even more amusing is that, depending on the nature of Elder Tale's "game" world, Tetra isn't even transexual.

S/he is tronsexual.
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>>100188600
Okay. This makes the most sense.

Still wouldn't do.
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>>100188648

What are you, some kind of faggot?
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>>100188648
>Still wouldn't do.
Look at this faggot.
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>>100188546
I'm very certain absolutely nobody fucking cares. And Wikipedia says nothing about it, so I can't imagine it being widespread.

>>100188474
The new world IS "real life".

Let's change the subject now and stop feeding this literal newfaggot moron.
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>>100188648

You are such a fucking queer that it is unreal.
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>Ask about Tetra
>Return to Trans/homo v trans humanism debate
well okay
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>>100188783
>trans humanism debate

More of this please.

What spell would you ask Shiroe to craft for you to change your nature in the ET world?
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>>100188767
I only know about it because I wound up doing anthro research on gender identity. It's a really, really, deep rabbit hole.
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>>100177648
>Those legs.
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I thought Tetra previously being male was just a rumour. Is the novel volume translated?
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>>100188921

Oh fuck man, I hadn't noticed before you pointed it out.
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Can anyone become a tracker?

I'm just imagining a Guardian in full plate sneaking around.

It's Tauren Rogues all over again.
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>>100188921
Haha good spot
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>>100189092
I think shiroe himself has thought about romancing either of them
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>>100189040

SERARA NO
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>>100188474

Tetra is just his//her own category as long as we dont humour those crazy people who claim to be transracial or that they're a garbage truck or etc.
Going by how people are describing tetra I think Tetra seems far too ok with a complete forced shift in gender identity or was kind of a homo already like most of 4chan.
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>>100189092
Stupid Shiroe, I'd break his glasses
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>>100189342
He was playing a girl character, I'm sure he was pretty homo.
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>>100170718
THERE'S NO USE FOR ALL YOUR GIMMICKS!
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>>100189342

Tetra isnt in any separate category.

She is a female in that reality. She has been from the exact minute it became reality for them.
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>>100189489
>Playing a girl
>Homo
Can't speak for MMOs but if you aren't playing a good variation of character in an rpg you're doing it very wrong.
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>>100189660
That's just your inner hetero and homo speaking. Your homo side wans to bang a dude and your hetero side wants to bang tetra so they teamed up to make you like tetra twice as much.
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>>100189660
>She is a female in that reality. She has been from the exact minute it became reality for them.

That would mean Akatsuki is transexual, since "he" started out male in the ET universe but used a potion to transform.

I love Akatsuki, and therefore I must reject your premise.
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>>100189766

Akatsuki was 100% male when Elder Tales became reality.

She then used that potion and became 100% female.

It really isnt that hard to understand.
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>>100189869
>Gender is body
>In a show where the mind is a literally separate entity.
If shiroe had one and took it next episode would he suddenly be a gril or Shiroe with a grils body?
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So, any word about that googledoc thing?
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>>100191070
Which gdoc?
If you meant the locs, then 6/10
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>>100190166
I demand more doujins exploring this topic.
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>>100189092
Who else would pick glasses for their mmo avatar?
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>>100193179
I think I would have to. I tried to switch to contacts. Every ten minutes I push my nonexistent glasses up the bridge of my nose.
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>>100172802

I can't even look at pictures of Akatsuki without hearing "my lord."
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Damn, vol6 ch.4 is pretty good so far. Can't wait to read the rest of it
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>>100172763
>Not making her a bit chubby.

Could be better.
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>>100189738
meh I usually try all races and classes but am always male. Nothing like raiding with voice chat and the deep voice booms from the cute little blood elf warlock "yes this is princessed"
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>>100193179
I just wish they glared like that irl
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>>100197061
I know

Where can I pick up these ridiculously reflective lenses? How do they even see out of them?
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>>100172502
>>100172563
>>100172672
>>100172675
Sweet mother of Jesus.
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>>100177826
>>100177714
Is there a uncensored version of this on rohitsuka's' pixiv? I can't find them.
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>>100189444
>every player from /a/
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>>100199881
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=40678000
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=40809513
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=40929039
Or just follow the posts that each image quotes.
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>>100178340
I'd have her and Henrietta if noone wants them.
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lets just say that Tetra is a Hideyoshi
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>>100201834
Hideyoshi is male. Tetra isnt.
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>>100202230
More like Tetra is a male mindraped by the DATABASE.
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>>100202548
>mindraped
No, she is 100% woman.
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>>100202934
That's the mindrape talking.
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>>100203025

Mindrape has nothing to do with biology.

Isnt there a Hunter x Hunter thread with a Pitou argument going on that you can go to and sperg out in?
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All this tranoshii discussion about the tronsexual little girl.
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>>100203170
I dont read hunter X hunter and Tetra's mind being forcibly changed from it's previous state without the permission of tetra is still mindrape. The only new thing here is that the body is the mindraping device instead of drugs like in your hentai.
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Can't rape the willing
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All the girls are best girl

Except Minori

Because she's the bestest girl
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What are the chances of a second season? I mean NHK usually adapts as much source material as they can don't they?
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>>100205830

Assuming there's enough material, I'd say it's fairly likely.
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>>100190166
>Gender is body
>In a show where the mind is a literally separate entity.

No, its a dualism of mind/body that are no longer separate from each other now that the body is not a video game avatar. Tranny logic does not apply as a Tranny cannot put their mind in a new body.
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>>100206612
I look at it this way. Irl to change ones gender requires surgery and hormone therapy. What has happened in LH is that the collective experience and memories of certain people have been put into a body of the opposing sex. This does not make them trans anything. They are not forcing their bodies through a change. Now they are simply make or female and become adjusted to their new experience.

Personally I think everyone would look the same down there though. It ain't in the games coding so the new reality probably didn't give anyone anything special.
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>>100206884
>Personally I think everyone would look the same down there though. It ain't in the games coding so the new reality probably didn't give anyone anything special.

Episode 1, motherfucker: Akatasuki didn't like her "down there", that's why she contacted Shiroe in the first place.
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>>100207190
I'm saying one dick looks the same as another and every pussy is the same shape, anon.
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>>100207534
Not if you level up in the Prostitute subclass.
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>>100207635
Well that one guys potions let you change up to two things. It never says how far it lets you customize.
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>>100207724

Good point.

Maybe there are lower-level potions which can customize just one part, like making your hair a different color or your penis bend left instead of right.
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>>100175059
West Coast Canadian here. Depending on your birthday, you graduate at age 18/19.
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>>100207793
Sure would be a useful potion though...for real life
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>>100207793
What's the word...I can't remember. I wonder how many people used the option to alter body hair in all the unsightly places. Do the males ever have to shave their faces?
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>>100171852
>>100172502
She's fucken beautiful, If NEET Marielle and NEET princess didn't exist she would be my favorite
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>>100175059
>>100207894

USA highschool ends at 18 or 19, depending on what time of the year you were born. College usually starts 19 or 20, ends 23 or 24.
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So I've just recently been catching up on this.

After 13, Crusty is my favorite character. So suave, so devious, so kind.
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>>100169492
still waiting for the punch line
when does this show get good and not just explain everything that's not happening, like its foreshadowing something that never comes
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>>100208376
>NEET Marielle
Marielle seems more like a normalfag socialite than a NEET.
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>>100209463
she basically wants to be a neet, to be lazy and not have to do anything

that's the entire point of her character
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>>100209579
No, she wants to be active & outdoorsy and go to the beach and have parties and play with her guild-friends.

She's a social butterfly, not a recluse at all.
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>>100209763
man, I must be tired, I thought we were talking about the princess for some reason

Sorry anon, you're right. Time to go to bed.
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>>100209396
>when does this show get good

From the first bar of the OP.

IMHO the pacing is a bit slow, but shit is actually going down right from the beginning.
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>>100209188
Ray, pls. Get back to making thank you notes
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>>100211782
>notes
Only Bards make notes.
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>>100187201
If ninjas aren't supposed to be seen then why is she so cute?
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>>100213473
Fallback disguise.

If she's discovered, she can pose as a hide-and-seek genius.
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>>100213473
To better serve her master, of course.
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Why did he call his guild Log Horizon anyway?
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>>100215852
Because they take logs of new horizons, I guess.
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>>100215852
Ask Crusty. He's the naming specialist.
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>>100215852
I'd log her horizons
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>>100215852
Maybe because their Guild Base is a Tree in the distance?

Literally making it a Log in the Horizon.
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>>100215852
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>>100217589

The horizon part makes sense, I just don't get the "log" part.

I honestly thought it was a computing/CAD term at first, but google didn't turn up anything.
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>>100218121
It's "log" as in "log in"
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>>100218121
IMO it's because he wants to push the exploration and understanding of the game world (they're LOGged in) to the biggest extent possible (to the HORIZON).
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So deep~
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>>100170436
TOOK ME INTO THE MAIDCAFE
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>>100218121
"Log" like record, maybe?

He's making a "log" of all the horizons he's exploring?

He's mapping new horizons or something like that?

Fuckin' Scribes, man.
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What does Akatsuki's butt smell like?
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>>100220322

Smoke bombs and sword oil.
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Is Sphaela here? I got him a present. Managed to properly connect the two map portions from volume 6.
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>>100220322
Shiroe's dick.
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>>100169492
i hereby doom this thread to the oblivion realm of the bottom of the Catalog
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>>100221485
How about no?
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>>100222781
how about yes?
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>>100207793
Didn't Roderick's firm invent several weaker variants of the body change potion which did pretty much this?
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>>100187392
Why doesn't he change like Akatsuki?
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>>100223673
Because one potion per person, and it was an obscure event long ago.
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>>100174705
A guy back in my high school graduating class was 20 his senior year, she could've been born premature maybe, and started preschool two years later than everyone else.
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>>100224542
>his senior year
>she could've
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>>100188211
Season 2 when we make it to volume 10 in the novels. Unless they adapt Kanami's side story but I have no idea how much content is in there.
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>>100224669
His parsing was poor, but it's clear that anon shifted his subject from the guy in high school to talking about Akatsuki.
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SHIROE IS A JEW SHIROE IS A JEW
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>>100226607
Shiroe is a visionary.
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>>100209763
She's an unemployed bum irl tho.
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>>100215852
It sounds cool.
That's how most clan names are chosen.
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>>100220475
That's not Tetra, that's the jew blacksmith Akatsuki wanted to buy a sword from but coldn't because she's a poorfag.

http://log-horizon.wikia.com/wiki/Tatara
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How many novels have the anime covered so far?
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>>100229303
Next week starts vol4, more or less
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>>100230067
So after these 2 cours, there might be enough material for one more?
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>>100205830
>>100206046
Not enough material for a second season. Only 7 novels out right now with 5 of them being covered by the anime. The second season would either be littered with filler or have its pacing drastically slowed down and be completely different in tone.
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>>100233260
Best Dog Horizon
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Why is the OP so good
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>>100173137
Man I don't even blame you, that THORN BIND SOLVES EVERYTHING shit got old real fast. I don't think he's used it since episode 5-6 ish at latest though, it's been all other people fighting and LOTS of talking since then.
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>>100234568
Shiroe won't fight again until season 2.
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>>100173137
>>100234568
I think he uses thorn bind hostage thrice in 5 volumesvs pk scrubs, vs low level boss, vs delicious), he's not even going to partecipate much in the next few fights, he's just going to keikaku them, keikaku them HARD.
Krusty, on the other hand, will personally lead his army to war and slaughter some goblins while the princess gets wet by watching him.
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I just want to see Isaac fighting. He's such an awesome character but gets criminally low screen time. Krusty is good too though.
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>>100234977
>I just want to see Isaac fighting
You won't
The OP is such a tease
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>>100233260
Rundel Haus Code got Dog-zoned
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>>100235072
They might cram him in the goblin war alongside Krusty.
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Now that the dust has settled, i think we can all agree that NEET princess second best girill ? first is side ponytail
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>>100235250
>Now that the dust has settled
Don't fucking dare to bring that here, /a/ is bad enough already.
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Database? More like DataBASED.
I hope they never change the OP.
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>>100228366
Always confuse Tetra and Tatara.
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>>100236324
Generic RPG is generic.
>that Nyanta
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ACE OF BASE ACE OF BASE
JUST LISTENING TO THE ACE OF BASE
WOW WOW
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>>100169492
I hate these Faggot Ops that cant put the Name of the Show in their Post... FUCK YOU because of this shit too many Threads created based on the same show
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>>100236417
>>100236324
Please tell me that's pixivshit.
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>>100231005
I wish they put all 7, or at least 6 in the anime. The pacing is really slow at times.
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>>100236503
Early drafts
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>>100231005
>The second season would either be littered with filler or have its pacing drastically slowed down and be completely different in tone.

What if the filler is based on Kanami's sidestory.
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>>100236749
Fuck off /mlp/
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>>100236749
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
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>>100231005

People keep saying this, but eh. He'll probably have a new volume out sometime this year, so that's three volumes to adapt. Plus they could adapt some of the West Wind Brigade/Crescent Moon shit.
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>>100236749

Wait a minute, what happened?
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>>100236749
i think your image was lost IN THE DATABASE WOW WOW
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>>100236894
>filename
>resolution
It's an obvious imageswap.
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>>100236749
>>100236929
moot confirmed shit database, bwaka bwaaaaka
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>>100236894

THE DATA'S ALL GONE

>>100236968

Way to bury that layup, newfriend.
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Fucking aye. Switch to my game for one second and that happens.
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>>100237019
>>100237019
>>100237019
>>100237019
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>Minori nodded to acknowledge Nyanta's soft voice.

>"We can't eat outside with the rain like that, so breakfast will be sandwiches with creamy crab soup, please eat inside your own tents nya..."

Mamare confirmed for never going camping. You never eat inside the tents. Unless you want to get raped by a bear, or worse, have all your shit stolen by raccoons.

Funny that they changed that for the anime...same with the guys and the girls not sharing a tent. Is that too lewd for the children to see?
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>>100236749
>>100236929
>>100237019
Nice nines, can I have some?
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>>100234849
>Krusty, on the other hand, will personally lead his army to war and slaughter some goblins while the princess gets wet by watching him.
This sounds amazing. I can't wait until I get to this in the novels, or until it's animated.

>>100206884
>Personally I think everyone would look the same down there though. It ain't in the games coding so the new reality probably didn't give anyone anything special.
Like much of the people in log horizon, you're stuck into the mindset of this being a game.
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JUST SAY WOW WOW WOW WOW
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>>100236894
The data's wrong! Come on!
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>>100237035
Is the layout of Akiba based on Akihabara?
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>>100237156
Yeah, adventurers really have to worry about that. Are you fucking retarded perhaps?
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>>100237451
>Half-Gaia Project
Hard not to make it similar. In the novel they sometimes refer to buildings as their real-life place counterparts
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>>100237585
Mamare is/was a shut-in/NEET so he has probably never gone camping, though.
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>>100218931
TO SEE A MAID
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Can you marry another character in Elder Tale?
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>>100237717
why not?
Landers do it somehow.
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>>100237585

>Implying a bear isn't a dangerous enemy in 99% of RPGs, especially for lowbies

You must not have played many MMOs

or, any

Plus raccoons stealing your shit is omnipresent IRL
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>>100237717
There aren't any laws, so there isn't anything stopping you.

To make it binding you'd probably have to have a scribe draft up a contract.
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>>100237835
>Actually dying in a lowbie zone
How much of a scrub are you?
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>>100237999
>He's never accidentally blundered into an elite encounter and been rekt before he can do much of anything
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>>100237835
>just bears
>in a game
>animal protection fanatics gain 'rage' until end of turn
Most common hybrid are owls.
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>>100237835
>Stealing your shit
>You can put everything in your bag of holdings
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>>100170810
>Rudy
>lander

HAHAHAahahahaha!
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>>100239558
>quest reward around 40 level
>lowbies
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>>100239558
>Bag of holding 20 lvls above the scrubs
At least they should have some base inventory space
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>>100239558
>Racoons can now steal your bag of holding.
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>>100239762
slowpoke, much?
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>>100239836
They have normal bags. Minori mentions both Serara and herself arranging potions in their bags for the next dungeon attempt.

All the level 40 bag of holding does is reduce the item weight to nil.
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>>100173392
Is Akatsuki just imagining a giant dick?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVRoG48Y8kg

this database is fucking WOW WOW WOW
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>>100240006
Tentacles and other Japanese hentai stuff. Did you think that anyone could live in a country of such perversion and know nothing?
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>>100237999
> he only plays casual mmorpgs where low levels are easy mode
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>>100219481
The japanese name uses the kanji for "record", making it "Horizon of Record" or something like that (yeah it's kind of the wrong way around).

So yeah, fuckin' scribes.
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>>100239894
he is not a lander
yes he is not human but he is maybe a bug but not a lander
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>>100240882
He's a lander.
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>>100240882
He's a lander sorcerer.
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>>100240814
>Horizon of Record
>Record of Horizon Wars
>Shiroe's guild name is a reference to Record of Lodoss War
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>>100240882
He seems to be a special naming case then, maybe since he trained and got to some level so he changed his displayed class.
Maybe like how Ronald Regan is an archmage or something like that.
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I'd expect there to be a lot of "scamming" going on for all those magic items that can no longer be created such as Bags of Holding.
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>>100241592
>I'd expect there to be a lot of "scamming" going on for all those magic items that can no longer be created such as Bags of Holding.

It's not that they can't be created, it's that adventurers aren't doing quests for Landers anymore (since they have more important priorities) and Landers aren't offering quests anymore (since they're still not sure about how to treat the Adventurers).
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>>100241592
why not?
There are mass-produced appearance potion manufacture if what >>100207724 says is true, so something like enchanting bags with levitation sigils is at least a quick ersatz. Remember, catastrophe made all minmaxing /tg/ can think about possible.
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>>100241813
>There are mass-produced appearance potion manufacture if what >>100207724 says is true,

Mass produced is a strong word. They're still a specialty item that takes rare ingredients to make.

>Remember, catastrophe made all minmaxing /tg/ can think about possible.
>/tg/

Goddamit /tg/, either get out or leave your bullshit at the door.
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>>100241813
Reminder that there is no breaking of rules, only bending it in your favor.
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>>100240882
His name is RunDLL House Code.
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>>100242202
But.. min/maxing is what we do.
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>>100243313
Why don't you properly min/max yourselves to productive members of society.
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>>100189654
SO CHECK THIS OUT
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>>100244089
>replying to a poast 22 hours old

I like it
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>>100244412
I guess he just woke up and didn't get to LOG IN YOU DAMNED ONES
CRUSH THE WON'T YOU COMPROMISE
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>>100218121
this brings up a decent point. If Shiroe was a CAD designer why didn't he become a blacksmith or something related to his major in game?
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>>100245867

What's the point?
Do you do everything in games exactly as you do in real life?
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>>100245867
Role-Playing
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>>100245979
...maybe
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>>100246104
Even if he was like that, no form of mmo crafting works like CAD
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>>100245867
>blacksmith
What does that have to do with CAD.
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>>100245867
Honestly I feel like scribe is probably closer to CAD than blacksmith. After doing enough circuits with computer aided design software I feel rather comfortable doing a lot of them on paper.
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>>100245867

I play games specifically to do different things than what I do in real life.
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>>100240882
He's probably an Ancient maybe? I mean wasn't there a ruckus about The izumo knights disappearing and such? Which probably means they either died off, or got reset to low levels maybe?
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>>100252305
$20 says the Izumo Knights are in the real world wrecking shit.
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>>100252382
>$20 says the Izumo Knights are in the real world wrecking shit.

Hand over those $20. The Izumo Knights are being killed by new "Genius" monsters that have popped up around the world. Kanami and her group ran into one in their sidestory.
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>>100210055

>a bit slow
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>>100252641

Goddamn it, I fucking love this world.
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This thread surely lasted a long time.
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>>100252929
yeah im surprised it wasnt deleted, we need an ew one to freshen things up though

4 MORE DAYS
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>>100252641

>looks it up

It's fucking amazing how much content this series has. I've been waiting with both hands on my dick for <Her> to show up in the main story, and it turns out she has her own spinoff?

...Are those side-stories translated? I don't see them anywhere.
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>>100252641
>you'll never be a member of the greatest party ever
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What the hell is this random hair doing on the right in the opening?
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>>100253966
>What the hell is this random hair doing on the right in the opening?

That's a major spoiler. Fair warning.

It's a symbol of the lost memory suffered by dead Adventurers. The hair is being cut while they're on the Moon, and you can see the Earth visible from the pan-out shot, so the hair drifting is happening on the surface of the moon.

Shiroe will get a haircut in a later book.
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>>100254067
Oh damn, that's awesome. All those hints spread in the opening. Based Satelight.
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>>100254339
The OP is awesome in so many ways.
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>>100253966

What the hell is that player you are using?
Also
>1080p
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>>100254508
Looks like mpv
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>>100254508
It's VLC.
>1080p
I'm a size queen, I cannot be sated until my HDD is full of upscaled shit.
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>>100254631
>my HDD is full of upscaled shit

As long as you're making an informed decision, nobody has the right to complain.
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>>100254631
>watching 1080p
>using shity player
I getting complicated signals here.
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>>100241592
the wizard guy told him the recipe to make those bags. so if u have a recipe i think u can craft it without making the quest. but i dont think unique or raid items have a recipe (like those griffin whistle)
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>>100254631
>>100254681
>>100254508
Honest question, what's better:

My screen/MPC/whateveritis upscaling a 720p video to my 1200p screen
or
using a 1080p upscaled encode from the start?

Is the encode better at doing it, or is it better to let the program do it? Bandwidth is a non-issue for me, I have unlimited and DL at 5mb/s.
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>>100254067
>Dead Adventurers
I thought no one could die?

>tfw I need to read the LN and manga
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>>100254955

It's better to let your computer do the upscaling, as long as your player is properly configured.
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>>100255007
>I thought no one could die?

They get better, except for the memory loss.
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>>100177873

>film original strong woman elf

I swer on me cousins tomb m8, I'll rek ye.
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>>100185828
>>100185764
>>100185716
>>100185669
>>100185432
>>100184772
>>100184715
>>100184398

Oh u dun it naow, a nun coon.
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>>100254918
They will have the possibilities to craft unique or raid item if their technology level is far higher than creating a steam ship. For example, if they have required technology to research sound frequency of griffin whisle and have right items to craft it, they have possibility to mass produce griffin whistles.

Also, this is not game anymore
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>>100255018
I probably don't have it configured close to properly.

I use SVP to get 60 fps anime, which produces plenty of visual artifacts on its own, even if it generally does a good job and gets rid of the horrific effects of anime-panning.
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I want to get spoilered.

How to permakill the adventurers?
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>>100255249
>this is not game anymore

Did Elder tales and the real life just fucking colide or something?

WHATS GOING ON HERE ANON
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>>100255375
Don't know. Shiroe and Nureha know but it hasn't been detailed. Nureha thinks it send the adventurers back to our reality. Shiroe says that since that can't be proven as they simply stop existing in their reality it can only be called death.
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>>100255503
Possibly a localized World fraction?
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>>100255451
They were controlling their avatars' bodies in another world through an MMO through magic

>>100255375
You snipe them on the moon
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>>100255451
>>100255249
"this is not a game anymore" is not an excuse to throw everything out the goddamn window. The world obviously still operates under specific rules.
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>>100255375
that a tricky question lander
players = monsters
they all respanw
if u find a way to perma kill the monster then u can aply that to the players and turn this into SAO
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>>100255569
So all that time they were dancing naked in front of Landers, all those ERP sessions....oh dear
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>>100255662
>Always do suggestive and lewd emotes on landers
>Apocalypse happens
>Landers run away from you because they don't want to get raped
Alv landers get "trapped" and quietly accept it.
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>>100255569
>They were controlling their avatars' bodies in another world through an MMO
>through magic

God dammit, Is this translated yet? I might as well go read it for myself to get a full grasp on what in the fuck is happening
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>>100256056
last ep annon
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>>100256123
I picked this up an hour or two ago, I'm on EP10 or whichever episode Tohya and Minori join Log Horizon
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>>100256056
Watch the anime again.

>>100255978
Who is Alv?
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>>100256279
They talked about this in the show already?

Guess I'll rewatch the first 10 eps before continuing I guess
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>>100256279

>Who is Alv?

The race of beings who were raped out of existence. Half-Alvs are the product of that.
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>>100256279
a race that created the first apocalipce thr all desapeared
Shiro`s race is half-alv
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>>100256404
The reveal is beyond ep.10
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>>100256504
Time to download EP11
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>>100256056
It's a ruse
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>>100173137
Boy oh boy, if you watched me play Ragnarok you'd get bored of me spamming Arrow Storm/Double Strafe over and over again.
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>>100257107
It's no wonder all he ever does is thornbind, that spell seems hilariously OP. It has a cooldown+casting time short enough that it can be recast by the time the original expires. On a bind!
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>>100257264
TBH does not bind, that is an Astral Bind spell combo
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>>100257264
TBH is not OP at all. A Sorcerer would be able to do a lot more damage.
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>>100257264
>It's no wonder all he ever does is thornbind, that spell seems hilariously OP.

Spells aren't like current WoW where you can buy everything from a trainer. Shiroe's version of TBH is maxed out on damage because he went through the effort of getting scrolls to upgrade it to the highest possible level.

Also, Thorn Bind Hostage is not innately a grounding/binding spell.
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Thorn Bind Hostage's only effect is adding extra damage to the next few attacks made against the target. It's not a debuff in any form.
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>>100257355
>>100257664
Oh, I see - that makes it a lot less scary I guess. So he didn't rebind the monk then.

>>100257575
It wasn't the damage I thought was dangerous.
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Reminder that it is possible to use assassinate with a ballista.
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>>100257264
You must be pretty new to MMORPG to consider that OP.
How about Stone Curse in RO, which is an actual hard CC, that also enhances damage dealt to the target.
It has no CD, pretty much no cast time and near 100% success chance in the hands of a competent caster, if only you don't itemize against it. And mostly you don't.
And there are a lot of those skills.
I still keep getting all of that Professor vibes from Shiroe's enchanter.



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