Which is the best SHAFT show this season?
But only one of them is done by SHAFT....
Sakura Trick is Hidamari.
Nourin is Soredemo.
Nisekoi is Bakemonogatari/Sasami
And yet that's the least Shafty show out of the three.
You mean, only one of them is made by Shinbo. SHAFT does not make its own anime anyway, outsorcing everything.
Sakura Trick is Hidamari staff
Nourin is Bakemonogatari director and Silverlink by now has more SHAFT people than Shaft itself
No-Rine is the best. Sakura Trick is decent.
Nisekoi so far is garbage. Overused style reminds Sasami and Vampire Bund.
Shinbo isn't even the real director for Nisekoi.
Shinbo and Inu Cury - the last two who did not got shafted and still work in SHAFT..
Imho, the best SHAFT show in recent years was Dusk Maiden of Amnesia. DC III second.
It's Shinbo, everything what made shaft being is Shinbo, not anyone else.
That said, none of those works has anything of the shaft style, they work under style of other studio as outsourcing people, that's it.
who is Shin Oonuma?
>That said, none of those works has anything of the shaft style, they work under style of other studio as outsourcing people, that's it.
Thats even more retarded statement, as its not "shaft" style, its THEIR style which they developed and used while working at SHAFT. now elsewhere.
Shinbo has own style, most evident by Soul Taker, and last SHAFT show in Shinbo`s style was Vampire Bund. Bakemonogatari is Oonuma`s child.
>Bakemonogatari is Oonuma`s chil
meant Oushi, Oonume is Hidamari/Poni Poni Dash
I`d say most prominent Oonuma SHAFT show is EF, and its still among the best SHAFT did. Pani Poni Dash and Natsu no Arashi also good show of his style.
> last SHAFT show in Shinbo`s style was Vampire Bund.
Madoka counts, also Inu Cury actually made it what it is
Sakura trick wins hands down.
No Rin is fanservice trash.
Nisekoi is so fucking generic that I couldn't finish first episode.
Sakura Trick suffers from shitty budget.
They are all pretty bad.
Sakura Trick is promising because it uses SHAFT certified cost-cutting methods that don't actually look like utter shit. It gives me hope for the future of low budget anime.
No-rin looks better, but it's not as interesting because it probably had a decent budget, even if it was a bit rough around the edges still. I liked it a lot, even though the best girl will inevitably lose.
Nisekoi is very very pretty at times but overal even if you don't take the abominable source material into account, it doesn't really come together into a complete SHAFT experience. It reminds me a bit of Vamipre Bund or maybe Sasami in that regard.
Oh, and I don't like this Shaft gimmick.
> Nourin is Soredemo
Is it actually that good, should I really be watching that?
It sounded hella-stupid.
I found it very fun, but it's a completely different show and not even in the same leauge as SoreMachi.
is that da capo 2?
III, also known as Pornogatari
SHAFT are doing more than Nisekoi this season?
Picked those other two shows the fuck up
>as its not "shaft" style, its THEIR style
Where? no one immited their gimmicks and stylystic decisions.
Studio is worked under the main director, which is main influence of everything, not otherwise.
You claims has no real proof, it's all just a speculah bullshit, or even worse, someone's else claim that you took as fact.
The guy is joking.
Sakura Trick is DEEN, Nourin is Silver Link.
It's worth pointing out that one of DEEN's directors is ex-Shaft and Silver Link output is mostly directed by an ex-Shaft director (the guy who did ef)
But, well, I like how they drop constantly shout-outs to previous Shaft shows. Did anybody notice the Hidamari clock in CLICK? Of course /a/ did, what am I even asking...
Nourin. I really like that Oonuma is going for the same exact style he used in Baka Test.
>being this retarded
Its beyound the point arguing with an idiot, if he cant on first glance recognize styles and production similarities.
Where do all the ignorant post-gatari/madoka Shaft fanboys come from?
The same place all the newfags do. Some hellhole called Earth, in other words.
Which reminds me, I should rewatch Pani Poni Dash damn you ANE
Second Season is definitely not Shinbo, but what about Bake? I've always thought it matches Shinbo's style more than Oushi's.
>can't make argument
>lol u retarrd
If you felt so right, you could provide decent proof.
Here's one:"Shinbo is director for most of the series, he is in charge, and because of that, all works have more or less same stylistic decisions, not otherwise since they don't have total control on production."
>Shinbo is director
except he is not
Newfag, please crawl back in whatever hole you climbed out. /a/ has enougth shitposting without you
B-B-But MuhAnimeList says he's the director for all those shows! Who would know more, MAL, or /a/??
>except he is not
Except he is, he is labeled as director, and a lot of works as it is said have similar direction.
You may think that because he is not working on episodes directly he is no longer involved in production, but that's wrong.
Otherwise any of recent series would have a different director.
For oldfag you sure missin a point.
Because /a/ is well known expert of everything, sure.
>Because /a/ is well known expert of everything
But it is.
>d-do i fit in?
oh, so its MAL invasion? no wonder.
Really? Because in all of the threads discussing animation almost no one knows what they're talking about.
you can add text yourself
MAL info about shows are wrong and all this time well known series being directed by other people and no one else but /a/ knows this shocking truth.
Maybe there's no such person as Shinbo, and well being tricked!
Kindly get out.
Because people posting in those threads aren't true Scotsmen. Actual /a/ knows everything there is to know about any subject.
Well, they sure seem to know a lot about maths, physics, programming, science, history and a lot of other more esoteric things.
We found a new village idiot
Did I strike a nerve?
Maybe you can actually giving a proof that Shinbo is not involved in direction instead of actin smartass.
>Otherwise any of recent series would have a different director.
They do have different directors. He hasn't directed a single anime since the Negima movie.
And who did? and where's the proof?
Why don't you just read the credits? You know, that text which shows up while the ED plays? It tells you the names and jobs of the people who worked on the show.
Or are you one of those people who ignores it, other than funny Korean names like Long Dong?
Shinbo has been credited as chief director for every Shaft project for quite a while, but there's always a director under him to do the heavy lifting. Tatsuwa Naoyuki is Nisekoi's 'real' director. He was assistant director on all the SZS seasons and directed Katte ni Kaizou.
So Shinbo's name never was mentioned anywhere in endings/openings?
And so he's never actually work on any of the series we know, because of that, right?
And this is the proof?
Shinbou still has input on most of the shows with him labeled as director or under series composition, certainly, but nowadays, his name is more of a brand, a marketing tool, than anything else. All these other directors apprenticed under him in Shaft, and they all have distinctive styles that characterize the shows they work on, more than Shinbou himself often. If you look closely at the ANN credits, they're usually credited as a co-director, or "series director" or "episode director" or what not. But really, they're the ones with the mot artistic input. For example, there was a big jump between Bake and Nise because Oishi left the project. Bake had an extremely strict color palette, confined visual spaces, lots of foreground/background action, frontal, angular shot angles, and blocky lighting. Nise has almost none of that, and employs a lot more wide-angle and fish-eye lenses, something Shinbou himself likes to use a ton, from Moon Phase to Madoka.
To say that he has no influence is preposterous, but really, he's not the only guy, or even the most important guy, in charge of these shows, though he definitely supervises the work.
What if this was his plan all along? To create an army of Mini-Shinbous who'll slowly SHAFTify the industry over the next decade?
Onuma was Ef. PPD was most definitely Shinbo.
Hidamari has jumped between multiple directors, Tatsuya Oishi did x365 I think.
You obviously dont know how animation production works, neither anything about SHAFT or people involved. Its like aruing with Creationist.
The last anime SHINBO directed was Madoka, and Madoka was still mainly Aniplex producer/Inu Cury child and this season Nisekoi. A lot of other shaft titles were directed by different people with him acting at best as supervisor (sometimes of multiple shows in season).
Shinbo is NOT the one who animates, NOT the one who draws storyboard or writes script - his is minisculely responsible for what you call "Shaft style". He is not even episode director.
Bakemonogatari was Tatsuya Oishi and Fuyashi Tou
Hidamari Ryouki Kamitsubo Nahoko Hasegawa
Soredemo Katsuhiko Takayama and Ooshima
EF, Pony Puni Dash - Shin Oonuma
Arakawa - Yukihiro Miyamoto
Maria Holic - Yukihiro MIYAMOTO
Vampire Bund - Masahiro Sonoda, also it counts as Shinbo show since he`s havily involved
Sasami - Katsuhiko Takayama
The only real "shinbo" shows that actually were utilizing his still and his involvent was relevant were Moonphase, SZS, Vampire Bund, Madoka (though Shinbo did shit anything to do with actual production - visuals were Inu Curry, series director Yukihiro Miyamoto etc.)
You are idiot if you think anime production depends on one person. If anything, the person influencing end result the most is episode director: and Shinbo did not direct anything for years.
>What if this was his plan all along? To create an army of Mini-Shinbous who'll slowly SHAFTify the industry over the next decade?
I hope this was his mission.
Also Oishi is the director for Kizu, right? I really want him to do S3.
>is minisculely responsible for what you call "Shaft style"
Now this is just bullshit. No, I mean, you are mostly right in your post, but... that "Shaft style" certainly has a lot to do with Shinbo supervising every production ever. It's not that Shinbo has a lot of input for that Shaft style, it's just that I doubt it would have been a thing if not for Shinbo's supervision.
>he's not the only guy,
Of course he's not, what I was saying however is that he is the main influence over the many shows.
Are we done with the new "DEEN is SHAFT" epic maymay?
A few guys up the top and suddenly lesbian trick by DEEN is shaftshit? What about hundred of slave animators who has been spitting out your usual DEEN quality since forever?
Most likely not.
It's sad. He was a big reason I loved Bake. His visuals were much more interesting than Shinbou's erratic shit.
Can you imagine what being mentored by him would be like?
>How does this cut look, Shinbou-sensei?
>Not enough ass
>But the main character's mother just died in this scene
>NOT. ENOUGH. ASS.
>Now get me some whiskey.
He hasn't worked on anything Shaft since Bake. He's either left the studio, left the industry, or Kizu is gonna be Redline quality when it comes out.
>What about hundred of slave animators
Shaft is lucky if it has 4 overworked monkeys, 1 of the is talented but gets 1 hour sleep a day.
It just outsorces everything - look at the list of subcontractor studios and freelancers.
Sorry, all I can think when reading your post is Karen's ass. It's your own fault.
"main" is quite the stretch.
I'd pop a few champagnes if it's the last option.
Retarded SHAFTfags, everyone.
I imagine Shinbou just sits in the studio in his track suit drinking whiskey while everyone else is working super hard, and when they finally finish their work, they present it to Shinbou, who either gives a thumbs up or thumbs down. If thumbs down, they have to redo everything from scratch.
Damn. Some anon said he would be directing it. I wish it was true.
>shit adapted from shit
>more shit adapted from shit
>agricultural shit for peasants
It's over, SHAFT is finished.
>The last anime SHINBO directed was Madoka
The names are jumping quite a lot as I see.
Of course series are mostly done by other stuff, but you are denying the very fact that those shows are still under Shinbou's influence, his direction is quite obvious since soul taker, which is still very quite strong till these days.
>You are idiot if you think anime production depends on one person
Director is the one who is pretty much under influence of the production, because of that, even when series have a different studio but certain director, it would have being more or less the same shit as if it was done by certain studio.
Look at the trigger and Gainax, what is Gainax without it's directors? that's right, nothing.
>Look at the trigger and Gainax, what is Gainax without it's directors? that's right, nothing.
But Gainax's latest works have been mostly better than their old shit.
>Look at the trigger and Gainax, what is Gainax without it's directors? that's right, nothing.
Look at Shaft without Oonuma and Oushi? thats right, nothing to see - Shinbo garbage
You seems to have a grudge against Shinbo, is that why you found yourself a new favorite director and passionately hate him?
Umetsu blogged about a chat he had with Oishi who said something about Kizu. (which was the first thing we heard of the kizu anime)
Kizu second pv has quite similar color pallete and animation from ep 15, so I guess it's more or less was his work.
Maybe he still work on it, maybe not, that would explain why movie being delayed so much anyway.