Is there a place for romance in One Piece?
As we all know, Oda has been extremely clear in stating that there will never been any love stories in OP. The decision makes perfect sense, of course, given that the series is primarily geared towards school aged males and Oda doesn't want larger plot interests playing second fiddle to the whims of fans' romantic fantasies.
That said, were there not such a strict barring of any romantic elements in the story, do you feel that OP could work -- perhaps even be better served -- with some unspecified degree of romance? After all, it's a fundamental element of the vast majority of fictional narratives and of life. People like each other and it can make for some very compelling storytelling.
Or do you think One Piece fundamentally could not be the series it is if it allowed for the inclusion of romance?
romance is gay and fuck you OP
Yes. Luffy's personality, as well as almost everything else that makes him him would not be as it is today if there was romance in his life. It would be a dead weight that would prevent him from reaching his full potential.
Not to say that he shouldn't be a compassionless person, but you don't fight for your friends the same way you fight for someone you love.
It could be just fine. Just would need to be treated light-heartedly which we know Oda can do.
Naruto has the thing with him and Hinata and it serves it purpose without being in any way imposing or detrimental to the rest of what's going on.
Being Pirate King is about freedom. Anyone in a serious relationship will tell you there's no abundance of freedom in it.
but Rogers was the pirate king and he had a girl...
If you're arguing for the restrictiveness of emotional attachments, how is his loyalty to his crew any better?
I'm curious now. How would Oda write a romance?
It was a pump and dump. He ain't love dem hos. Just like Jin Freaks or Yasopp.
There's a weird mentality between your lover and your friend that somehow gives you the impression that your lover is more helpless and therefore needs the most protection, while you just assume your friend is capable of looking after himself.
franky x brook otp
Luffy/Nami could be cute. I think it actually happening could detract from the story, but having it hinted in the epilogue would be nice. Their interactions are fun (flirting with sweet at times), they have good chemistry, and compensate for one another's shortcomings. Like I said, I think it could screw with the dynamics, energy and direction of the series, but I wouldn't be mad if it happened at the end (or more hilariously, offscreen).
There may be a place for romance in OP, but not until the end and not within the crew with exception of FrankyxRobin. If you think there's any even remote possibility for LuffyxNami you are a massive retard.
>Naruto has the thing with him and Hinata and it serves it purpose without being in any way imposing or detrimental to the rest of what's going on.
Wait, are they a couple now?
This is OTOKO NO ROMAN. It has no place for girly lovely-dovely shit.
I like romance and all, but not in one piece. The extent they have it now, IE one-sided infatuation, is good until the end where they can leave it relatively open with hints or something. Thats as far as I would go with One Piece.
They did held hands...
And then it was instantly forgotten and Naruto once again wanted Sakura's pussy.
I'm only fine with Camie/Hacchan happening on-panel. That was cute
You know the reaction girls have to Franky shogun? That's the face guys would make if they saw romance in One piece. And guys certainly make bigger audience of it.
I don't want any of that romance bullshit in my one piece.
It's already full of romance- man's romance. There's wide see and clear blue sky, adventures, dreams, robots, ships, swords and fights to the last breath. All of that is romance to a man.
I could see Nami and Luffy hooking up in an epilogue style.
The previous pirate king had a woman and they had a kid afterall... I just wonder if it would end in Luffy dying early too since he's been through so many things that have sapped his lifespan...
Whats with all this fucking sexism?
Doesn't Oda know that-
Romans? Greeks? Is this about men having sex and romance with each other instead of women?
The samurai were big on that too as I recall.
What about Usopp/Kaya?
Having a girl waiting for you back home is a classic.
It's like you want One Piece to be shit.
Show me ANY piece of fiction that was improved by shoehorning in romance.
If it was my will, I would remove all beautiful girls from One Piece. Ugly ones (Big Mom, Jora, etc.) can stay. It would be much better.
Are you a faggot, or do you just wish deep inside that you could be the pretty girl and they make you jealous.
If Luffy and Nami stayed as they are now but started randomly holding hands they would basically be in a romantic relationship.
Franky & Robin is best couple though
I often find it that is the case with bitches hating on beautiful women. I frankly never see/read men complaining about the standards of a manly male being to high. Most cases, men will do what it takes to attract some poon.
There will never be romance in these types of shounen. Even in DBZ, although Goku and Vegeta were married with kids, there was no onscreen romantic interactions with their respective wives.
>Girl maybe kinda sorta likes Luffy.
>Screenshot of a wedding at the end of OP with luffy scratching his head looking like he dont know how the fuck he got there....
That's the best you gonna get if DBZ is any indication. Any indication of actual romance and it ceases to be shounen entirely.
This guy has it right. Real life people with the kind of grandiose ambition seen in OP never give a fuck about bitches and if you ate a storyteller in particular its just a distraction. Romance is either the main point of a story or its gotta take a back seat way fucking far in the back to not have your protag be chasing 2 different and unrelated ambitions.
Do Luffy and Nami ever even interact anymore?
Counterpoint: Yu Yu Hakushou.
>Is there a place for romance in One Piece?
>As we all know, Oda has been extremely clear in stating that there will never been any love stories in OP
Well, looks like OP's question has been answered by OP.
You can delete the thread now.
and Jesus fucking Christ, what the hell is going on with these captchas? Is moot trying to bully me into that gold account?
Nah Luffy is a pirate, he wouldn't have a marriage ceremony, he would just have his girl and maybe their kid with him, common-law style.
Plus even as much of a rubber-idiot as he is Luffy STILL isn't much of an ignorant country-retard as Goku was.
He explicitly knows what shit like 'marriage' is, and that it isn't a food, and that while he will gladly take your food he isn't going to marry you.
>Luffy STILL isn't much of an ignorant country-retard as Goku was.
Luffy is exactly the ignorant country-retard as Goku was, he can only be smart in battle.
Except you are wrong, even when Luffy likes to take things easy he still understands basic concepts of society like marriage and shit. Thats not the same as not understanding SCIENCE or navigation or etc etc.
Goku wasn't a retard to that extend either.
Its the whole reason he ended up getting married to Chichi, people saying Luffy will end up the same way are idiots.
Hancock tried that shit but she's meant to be a complete joke, so he totally dodged that sort of romantic hook.
Nami and Luffy are an absolute guilty pleasure of mine, but the only one that makes any realistic sense seems to be Robin and Franky.
Its a little hypocritical to say Robin x Franky can happen as an exception.
They are pretty awesome together though.
There's so many deadbeat dads in the series, what was Oda's relation with his father?
Well there's obviously a love subplot with Makino, except if she's the mother of the Messiah.
There will be room when we get closer to One piece itself OP, and all the women the strawhats left swooning will catch up.
Everyone on the crew will have a lover by the endpoint of the series except for Sanji, forever alone
Yeah what is up with the baby she had on the coverpage after the timeskip? Who IS the father, Shanks maybe? He could have always swung by I guess.
Franky and Robin are hypothetical parents of the crew with the rest being siblings. That's the only indication of possibly pairing even though they don't proceed to a full relationship.
Thats a really half-assed justification for your ship over others.
She never mentioned marrying him before the time-skip, can we assume they fucked at least once or two during those two years so she wants him to "take responsability"?
How old is Hancock again? 30+?
Are you fucking retarded... or basically are you the standard sort of shipper is what I'm asking?
For one thing Luffy didn't see her again during the timeskip since he was on the orther island training with Silvers to master his Haki.
I thought luffy was confirmed for asexual since the Amazon Island
>>Implying Asexuality is a real thing
Implying it wouldn't be easy as fuck to just go where Luffy is and take his dick anytime during those two years
Roger did it and left some girl pregnant not giving any fuck, Luffy could be the same
It's at least some justification and made by Oda at that, the rest doesn't have any justification whatsoever. If you think Arlong arc is in any way indication of romantic relationship then Luffy has romantic relationship with pretty much everyone on the crew.
it is completely against his character and is against the spirit and theme of one piece
you guys are stupid
serena and satoshi are not going to hook up either
D: The thing that concerns me is the cover of chapter 614. You see how Makino-san is holding a baby? Does that mean that baby is Makino-san's child?! And does that mean the father is me?! P.N. Dandelion
O: NOT YOU!!! (Shock)
...ah... Sorry. Well--. Seems Makino-san became a mother. She looks very happy. The father is maybe that person-. Yeah, probably that person.
He seems to eat out of her hands a bunch of times after the 'Skip. And the only one who gets bothered by it is Sanji? I can't remember if she's still screaming his name whenever something big is going down which used to happen alot.
This part was hilarious though.
>He seems to eat out of her hands a bunch of times after the 'Skip.
Kill yourself faggot.
He isn't going to hook up with Hancock no matter how much you want him to. She's a crazy old bitch that serves as one big joke to the shipper types.
Its both. All the ladies want to give up their goodies to the rubber-man.
It is not like I want to, it just seems logical to me. There's not gonna be any romantic bullshit in One Piece of course, but that doesn't mean Luffy could just get a kid or two by fucking someone on his way just like Roger.
Nami didn't feed him, unless you count that scene during Punk hazard feast with terrible animation, because that wasn't in manga.
Roger seemed to give enough of a fuck to ask Garp to protect the child.
And no she couldn't have, Silvers forbid any interruption in Luffy's training, not to mention Luffy has never shown any attraction to her even when he came across her butt-naked.
Save it for your fanfiction.
I remember her holding out her tea for him in Fishman Island, which was in the manga.
Hey, I'm a shipper faggot and I really want Oda to pander to my tasteless hobby so me and my fellow shippers can show the world what cancerous fanbase truly means.
Your logic is flawed.
You have no evidence for what you are saying, you are pulling it out of thin air to support your baseless theory.
Oh god, that fucking telescopic hand, Toei at its finest.
It is just an assumption man, just for shit and giggles
You might as well say in the epilogue Luffy is going to have knocked up both Robin and Nami while on their travels. If anything its more likely since at least the two would be around him for it to happen. Or zoro/sanji/usopp eats the zoan-type seahorse fruit and he gets them mpreg.
Why do they put such little effort into the anime when One Piece is such a big thing in Japan?
>Naruto has the thing with him and Hinata
Way to point out one of the worst examples of romance in a shounen. If it's going to be that bad, it might as well not be there at all. I agree with Oda's line of thinking.
Exactly because it's such a big thing. They know no matter how much they fuck up people will still watch it because everyone loves it.
Probably because they can get away with it
how much time do they have for one episode ?
>>a girl waiting for you
since when did luffys powers work like that
Wasn't that just fanmade?
Usopp is already confirmed to die alone on a deserted island
Pfft, if anything Hinata is too good for Naruto.
Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke are some of the worst characters in the series. Too bad they are so major, it was just another part of the reason the series got so terrible.
Luffy has a lot of Death flags. I'd be really surprised if Luffy survives at the end of One Piece
Romance belongs at the dawn.
I don't care about the show having no lovey-dovey stuff, but, ultimately, the characters need to get married and have sex. This is saying it as plainly as can be:
It is not okay to be a virgin.
It is not okay to be a virgin.
It is not okay to be a virgin.
IT IS NOT OKAY TO BE A VIRGIN.
100% of all heroes throughout fiction have been non-virgins. If you don't pass on your seed, you're a failure at life. It doesn't matter what else you've accomplished. This is the bare minimum you have to achieve to be respected. It doesn't have to happen today or tomorrow, but Zoro, Sanji, Franky, Usopp, Chopper, Nami, Robin, and, yes, even Luffy have to have someone. Brooke gets a pass, since it's almost impossible that he's still a virgin.
I would love for Oda to make that joke though
bonus points for Sanji kyaaing like a girl instead of staring
Post Luffy explaining to Franky why he was wearing the armor in Thriller Bark
What annoys me is Oda's arrogance in believing that romance doesn't belong in a shounen. He's basically saying that every shounen author who writes romance into their adventure story is doing it wrong.
r u a virgin
What would romance add to the series?
Well I sure as hell haven't see a shonen with love done right.
Satisfaction for shipperfags.
Luffy x Crocodile OTP
You're posting one of the worst examples. Notice how Kuririn and 18 became immediately irrelevant after they got married? Also Kuririn not killing 18 and letting Cell absorb her just pissed me off
Toriyama was a pretty shitty writer when it came to romance, self-admitted.
Hell, by the time of Z it was pretty shitty written series in general. It was basically around the level of Naruto or bleach but we have nostalgia for it so we give the old series a pass.
yes please, i wish for nothing more
Doctor Strangelove is the OTP.
I had two issues with him during a long time, first he didn't kill people outside of flashbacks, second he was careful into avoiding any romantic connections (meaning there never even was a child with TWO parents, just how the fuck are people born in OP world?). Then he killed WB and Ace, bring out romantic feelings with Hancock (only reason he did it was because it was mostly a joke and helped the story progress) and Ace's parents. I have no more complains on those point now.
>no vegitation on island
>is reduced to having to eat his own nose
>Satisfaction for shipperfags
Oda knows better than going there. Based him. Mashima a faggot.
>otice how Kuririn and 18 became immediately irrelevant after they got married?
That happened to every character who wasn't a Saiyan.
>Also Kuririn not killing 18 and letting Cell absorb her just pissed me off
Seriously? THAT pissed you off? After they purposely let Dr. Gero create his Androids and unleash them on the world, despite having advance warning and the power of the Dragon Balls at their disposal?
I would bet Oda came from a single-parent household, and that it was his father that abandoned them.
>Without his nose he loses his long range sight and his aim suffers.
>we have nostalgia for it so we give the old series a pass
How many people have nostalgia for DBZ? Plus most people agreed it turned to shit after Namek.
>Hell, by the time of Z it was pretty shitty written series in general. It was basically around the level of Naruto or bleach but we have nostalgia for it so we give the old series a pass.
You have shit taste and should probably kill yourself. The Buu Saga was as hilarious as anything One Piece has done.
Not impossible I guess.
>but how does he smell?
I had to, it was wide open
Those of us who weren't middle school shits watching it on Cartoon Network continued to watch past Namek and experienced the glory that was the last arc.
Will we ever see romance between Ichigo and best girl Tatsuki?
>The Buu Saga
It was schizophrenic, you could tell Toriyama was fed up with it so he tried to please himself at least while keeping the crap serious battle shonen elements from the previous arcs.
>Law x Chopper
Is it OK that I like this idea?
>there are people that think Luffy won't be executed in the end
Right. He went back to his Dragon Ball roots. And it worked.
Vegeta being a retard is nothing new. Kuririn throwing away the last thing that could redeem him as a character just ruins him
Also he was always the exception to the "hurr if you're not a Saiyan you're irrelevant". He also had his major role on Namek and could've done his job stopping Cell, but nooo, he puts the possibility to fuck 18 over the sake of the world
Ichigo is a fucking putz though, Awful main character.
You only had one job Kubo.
The word you meant to use was "kawaii", I forgive you though.
>Usopp comes back
>tells her about his adventures on the grandline
> she doesn't believe him and thinks he's just using his old lies
Rukia has already penetrated him twice,
his strawberry ass clearly belongs to her.
Hated how toonami would replay the entire season while waiting for another goddamned episode.
But it was fun
>turned into gumball
>use his own fist to bash himself
>"why you hitting yourself? why you hitting yourself? lel"
Rukia is a slut who likes getting dp'd by Byakyua and Renji. Tatsuki is a pure maiden who often risks her life for others and therefore best girl.
>Not believing Usopp
It's gonna be their children who'll think daddy's beddtime stories are crazy bullshit full of animal-people and zombies.
Liking tomboys is gayer than traps. Just super sayan.
Is there a point in picking up OP anime again? I've dropped it around Fishmen Island when I felt that quality started going downhill. Does it get better afterwards?
I will not stand for you slandering Rukia's good name, you cur.
Tatsuki is the Soul King and the true big bad and a whore, now fight me irl.
>Implying Kubo even remembers who Tatsuki is
>Vegeta being a retard is nothing new.
It wasn't just Vegeta. Trunks told all of them about the Androids, and nearly all of them agreed to let it happen. That's Goku, Piccolo, Vegeta, and I think Tenshinhan and Yamucha.
>Kuririn throwing away the last thing that could redeem him as a character just ruins him
He didn't need redemption. He needed resolution. His character's goal was never to be the strongest or even useful. He wanted to get married. He'd said that. And saving #18 allowed him to fulfill his goal.
Compare Krillin's story to Tenshinhan and Yamucha's. They're both losers without any clear goal. Tenshinhan wanted to be strong, but is forced to walk the planet, training endlessly, still knowing that he's nothing but a flea compared to the greats out there. Yamucha wanted a girlfriend, but had his girl marry someone else. He spends his life dicking around, buying cars and suits to try to hide his crushing loneliness.
The way to watch the OP anime is to read the manga and watch certain scenes you thought might be cool only to rage at how Toei screwed up
>Liking tomboys and traps
Pick exactly one.
They didn't agree to let it happen. They had no way to prevent it. The only chance they had was when Gero was fleeing and Vegeta let him activate the other Cyborgs
Fight me IRL, I dare ya.
Ichigo is an example of an author avoiding romance purely for marketing purposes. There's no in-world reason why every male character in the series would avoid dating. Romance is teased just to hook you, so you can see who ends up with who at the end.
At least with One Piece, they're pirates on the run from the government, each with a goal in mind that would be complicated by having a girlfriend somewhere.
Tatsuki a shit.
Bleach has never been subtle with it's way of storytelling for marketing purposes
>They didn't agree to let it happen. They had no way to prevent it.
Yes, they did. They could have killed Dr. Gero or at least smashed up his lab when Trunks first warned them. They even said they could ask Shenlon to locate Gero. But all of the idiots agreed to do nothing, because they wanted to train and test themselves against the Androids, even though Trunks told them about his apocalyptic world.
Ichigo has protecting the entire fucking universe on his mind. And when he isn't doing that, he is sitting around moping and thinking about protecting the universe.
He doesn't have time for bitches.
>>BAWWW THIS ISN'T HOW I WANTED TO WIN
Ichigo is just a pussy who freaks out at the sight of a naked woman.
If he tried to have sex he would cum before he even got it in.
Doesn't have time to be a believable character either.
>THIS ISN'T HOW I WANTED TO WIN
I already forgot, who was that about? Grimmjaw?
He is actually a very realistic teenage boy.
And Ishida? Chad? There's no excuse for either of them. Ichigo could have at least comforted himself with Inoue when he had lost his powers. She practically throws herself at him all the time.
The only character who you see dating anyone is the player kid, who targets Christmas Cakes.
The Ichigo of the beginning of the series was pretty good. He didn't even want to be a Shinigami and actually had personal interests.
Now he's just the almighty Mary Sue to save the day.
>Looks at catalogue
>sees One Piece Romance Thread
Ishida is a fucking dork and Chad is a dirty gaijin.
After taking these facts into consideration I agree that best girl deserves someone better. Rukia can get stuck with Ichishit. Tatsuki deserves to win the Orihime.
I dropped out of the series after they went to the soul society and suddenly everyone became mexican. what's I miss?
What a shit behaviour for a Rukiafag.
I thought he had no memory of that fight because he was in KUROSAKI-KUN mode.
Threads drift mang, its natural.
I can post something one piece and romance related if it would make you feel better.
Ichigo defeats Aizen
Series still continues cause money
The Arrancar Arc actually had a pretty solid ending. If Bleach had ended there, it would have been remembered as a good series.
As long as it's Crocodile or Hancock.
Thats what made him whine and ask Ulquoirra to cut his arm and leg off to make it fair... as if it was some sort of tournament bout instead of a combat rescue mission...
He concluded that he did it and wanted to cut off his arm too
>wanting characters to have natural human desires
>you must be a shipper faggot
Sorry, but asexuality is not realistic or even a fun fantasy.
Well then no, you have terrible taste, fuck you.
ah. execution was stopped I take it.
And still no signs of the kickass outfits from the OP?
lost my shit
Robin? Please don't say you don't like any of the best girls.
You didn't mention Robin, you mentioned Crocodile and Hancock
>natural human desires
>Implying there aren't enough IRL great men who never gave a fuck about romance and created things that will still be remembered in the far future
Ishida had his romance in the Bount arc.
Unless Oda brings in some character I can only see Luffy settling in with Hancock with marginal level of interest, no other female I see as possible wife for him at this point, if only because he's so much above normal people in terms of natural leadership, it has to be someone he'd see as equal meaning the person should at least have Haoshoku which possibly bring Zoro into this argument for the joy of /y/
They are all the same character though, have you seen Oda's designs?
>>Implying there aren't enough IRL great men who never gave a fuck about romance and created things that will still be remembered in the far future
The bount arc was absolutely terrible anime filler
>Ishida had his romance in something that doesn't exist
I'll name one base desire chasing monkey that wants to do nothing but fuck whores, his name is 'you'.
Your shipping is shit, not even counting your faggotry.
Hancock is an old-ass bitch he has no attraction towards.
Meh, the Pirate King will end up with the Pirate Empress.
I can't see the series ending without at least some of the characters procreating.
There are people with that desire. Like Sanji for example.
Still romance doesn't need to be a major element of the story as it's only distracting since One Piece is a man's romance
Fuck you, Hancock is a cake among cakes and any man would be lucky to have her.
Do you really think the Pirate King won't hook up with the Pirate "Queen"?
>>wanting characters to have natural human desires
What is Sanji?
>you must be a shipper faggot
It's not shipping, I don't care if he'll have a wife or not, it's matter of logic, I don't think he could have a wife that doesn't have the same level of willpower.
Luffy has already said he's not going to get with her.
Go to bed, Mantis. You're dead.
Sanji is more of a joke and old trusty shonen trope of the horny guy.
>implying the current arc isn't amazing.
If Bleach ended at the end of the Aizen fight it would have been a horrible ending and left nearly everything unanswered.
Luffy says lots of things, and someone will bring that up when they announce their relationship, and he will say something like "I changed my mind".
She's not the queen. And she's already been knocked-back by him.
Your logic is complete bullshit, there's also no implication he's going to have a wife.
Did you seriously post that and think it was a legitimate comment? We're obviously not going to have a honey moon arc, but the series will probably have a time skip end, where we see several of the characters with kids. Luffy will be one of them, and Hancock will most likely be the mother.
>NO NO NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND LUFFY SAID HE WOULDN'T SO IT WON'T HAPPEN
What the fuck is wrong with you? Did you get dropped on your head? Are you 12?
She's an explicit joke, about people like you. Cry sum moar shipperfags.
>there's also no implication he's going to have a wife.
You're a fucking retard. Every character had parents who were just like them, yet they eventually got married or fucked someone. Unless they die, the characters are going to eventually do the same thing.
You're getting pretty upset, you hold your pairing pretty close to your heart right? Go write a fanfic about it.
This 31 year old woman isn't going to hook up with Luffy.
It's alright if he won't have a wife, I'd prefer that outcome, but if he does end up having a wife since he's Roger 2.0 it has to be someone who'd treated him as equal, Luffy has natural talent for being a King, he inspires people and makes them follow him, that's not the attitude possible for a relationship.
This is exactly the kind of shit I see little kids getting excited over
>Kubo revealing Bankais that he should've shown years ago and only brings up now to bring readers back as sales drop
>not absolute cheap and bullshit writing
Wow, you're a shitposter. 4chan doesn't allow underage posting.
>B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-BUT IT WON'T HAPPEN CUZ ODA HATES ROMANCE
This isn't even romance. It's just something that will happen at the very end.
Ishigo has always been a sue.
You remember you said that in 10-15 years when it ends and they are shown as one of the many married couples, like Zoro and that girl that fell down the stairs.
You think Tashigi and Kuina are the same person, do you even read the series?
Dragon isn't exactly like Luffy at all, who in turn isn't actually very similar to Garp
Wow you really are crying about the thought of your pairing not being canon.
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, but sometimes the truth hurts.
You think they aren't?
Until the end of the SS arc he really wasn't.
You're so upset.
Do you think Roger was Luffy's father or something?
Dragon hasn't been much like Luffy at all.
Also if Luffy is going to have a kid for no other reason but timeskip epilogue purposes it seems more likely he would knock up the girl on his crew while they are travelling, its not like he's going to settle down somewhere.
SS arc is where he turns into Sue
>Able to control that energy ball thingie by sheer willpower
>Manages to train shunpo and Bankai in super-short time
>Beats Kenpachi and Byakuya despite them supposedly being top-tier fighters
After that he just continued to grow his Sue powers to absolutely ridiculous extend.
We haven't seen much of Dragon, I can see him getting more page time and turning out to be just as goofy as Luffy.
>look at this picture that proves nothing!
>wow you can see me? no human's can see me!
>wow no one's ever gotten out of my spell!
>wow that's the biggest sword i've ever seen!
and this is just the first episode
Apart from young Tashigi being absolutely nothing like Kuina?
Keep telling yourself that.
The point isn't that he's goofy like Luffy, as much as he's a strong, driven guy on the run from the government, who still find time to put his dick in a woman. So did Garp. So did Roger. So did Usopp's dad. So did everyone else's dad, else they wouldn't exist.
Usopp and Sanji definitely will end up having a kid, because they both want to. Zoro would otherwise be the one character you can say may not have a kid, but the fact that Tashigi even got written in says otherwise. Luffy will eventually have a kid too, just like previous Pirate King.
Kuina didn't have glasses.
What, did you think her dad FAKED her death and then sold her to the marines with her memory erased?
Apart from that it's obviously the same person.
Did Kuina look like that?
I think she fell down the stairs and damaged her brain and lost her memories and eyes, or she just thinks she needs glasses.
But then why did her dad 'stage' her funeral? And give kiddy-Zoro her fancy katana?
I'm not the guy you're talking to and I don't even think that they're the same person, but you both sound retarded and need to shut the fuck up. You're the reason that the One Piece fanbase on /a/ is so shitty. You're loud, obnoxious, shitposting faggots who probably migrated here from Gaia and can't do anything but say nonsensical things.
>BUT THEY ACT DIFFERENTLY
Holy fuck they act differently! Just like every human being who grows up does.
>BUT THEIR HAIR IS CUT DIFFERENTLY
Not even responding to this one.
>BUT CLARK KENT HAS GLASSES. SUPERMAN DOESN'T. THEY CAN'T BE THE SAME PERSON
Slit your wrists.
>not liking 10 trillion skeletons
Do you hate fun? If fail to see your logic you complain when he doesn't reveal bankai's and then you complain when he does. Seriously, fuck off.
>that's the biggest sword i've ever seen!
Many female love interests say that to their man
Because her mom that is(or was) a high ranking marine at the time forced him to and took her daughter away.
/a/ has changed
You're an idiot, none of your claims have a basis, all you are doing is trying to shout people down because you have nothing to prop your own argument with.
Why did she have a funeral if she wasn't dead, and why would she secretly have been handed over to the marines?
>Holy fuck they act differently! Just like every human being who grows up does.
Look at Tashigi happily sitting there reading about swords that she likes so much. Now refer to Kuina constantly brooding about being as strong as males, both look to be the same age, meaning it has to be within at least 2 years of alleged death.
You are writing fanfiction now, that has no basis in the actual show.
Judging by some of the writing styles in this thread, I'm actually starting to believe there are grills on /a/.
She doesn't just think she needs glasses, she actually needs glasses. She often tries to run around without glasses and then can't see things correctly. Heck she can't even find her glasses when they're on the ground and mistakes some other marine for her superior.
Also Smoker always wore glasses while he was in her body because she obviously needs them
Kuina and Tashigi are different people because Oda said in one of the SBSs that they're different.
Ignoring that, the theory that they're the same would have been extremely plausible and anyone denying it should be shot and killed, so they can't pass their faulty genes on to the next generation.
>BUT I DON'T GET KUINA DIED AT THE BEGINNING. THEREFORE, SHE CAN'T BE TASHIGI. HOW COULD SHE BE TASHIGI IF SHE'S DEAD.
Holy fuck, is this really what /a/'s come to?
Why would Sabo have a funeral if he wasn't dead?
What, not quite enough waifu-faggotry for you?
You suck at interpreting writing styles. This thread is made up of middle school boys, and it shows.
>the series is primarily geared towards school aged males
This is what is getting annoying. It has been so long that One Piece started, that all the school boys from ten years ago have become adults. One Piece should have started becoming more adult like years ago, since most of the guys watching it are adults now.
That could be a result of her brain problems, she just tricks herself into thinking she can't see well.
He always wore glasses because they weren't prescription glasses so I doubt he even noticed.
I'm a grade school girl, thank you very much.
The only real reason that would bother me is that Tashigi is massively behind zoro strength wise.
If she was Kuina I would expect her to be closer.
He didn't have one, because they never found his body. Like the Kuina's one that we saw having a full burial ceremony.
inb4 it was actually her copy made by Hogback for Enel but stolen by Saul and gifted to Dragon who gave it to Kuina's father to stage the funeral
He revealed them at the wrong point. At this point nobody who respects himself as a reader should even give a fuck anymore.
>Oh I'm completely overpowered by this demigod
>he also has something to absorb all my flames
>this would be the perfect opportunity to reveal my ultimate technique and save the day!
>oh wait I'll rather suicide attack and save my supertechnique for when sales are low so stupid as fuck kids will start buying this manga again
>>Expecting women to be able to fight like men
HAH! gbk2/tumblr faggot
Just because you identify as one doesn't actually make you a girl no matter what tumblr told you.
We never saw her body, why would you have a closed casket for someone that just fell down some stairs?
It's the opposite. Zoro being stronger than Tashigi was the whole point of Kuina's dilemma.
Kuina's father didn't want her to succeed him, because women are weaker than men after puberty. When Zoro beat Tashigi, one of his advantages was pure strength. Tashigi is living through the crisis that Kuina feared she would have.
We saw it being carried covered with blanket, you'd think if it was a dummy someone attending the funeral would notice that.
We saw her body, are you going to claim because its face was covered it was actually a fake placed there to deceive everyone?
This is 9/11 levels of conspiracy
You can't deny the possibility.
No it was the fear that one day may become stronger than her because he's a man, if she's now Tashigi and zoro is that stronger than her Oda basically proved all their rivalry to be pointless and that woman no matter what can beat man.
Aside from Kuina and Tashigi being a pun on birds who look the same but are completely different species we actually also saw Kuina's corpse you moron. Also we saw Kuina's grave and Tashigi as a child.
Also there's no plausible explanation why they should be the same person.
The SBS is just the cherry on top
HOLY FUCK SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY
KUINA ISN'T TASHIGI BECAUSE ODA SAID IN AN INTERVIEW THAT SHE ISN'T
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON
>BUT SHE DEAD
YOU MIDDLE SCHOOL FAGGOT
WRITERS CAN WRITE IN ANYTHING TO RETCON WHATEVER THEY WANT.
THEY CAN EVEN PRETEND THEY PLANNED IT
KUINA'S DEATH COULD HAVE BEEN AN ELABORATE FAKE OR SHE COULD HAVE BEEN REVIVED IN ANY NUMBER OF WAYS
IT HAPPENS ALL THE FUCKING TIME EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY OF EVERY WEEK OF EVERY MONTH OF EVERY YEAR
AS WE ARE WRITING RIGHT NOW, TEN AUTHORS WHO MAKE SIX FIGURES A YEAR HAVE REVIVED A CHARACTER WHO WE ALL THOUGHT WAS DEAD
STOP IT. YOU STOP IT RIGHT NOW. STOP IT.
I can and I will, Oda loves his plot twists but he's too attentive to his older chapters to make one that would actualyl become a plothole.
You're a very close minded person.
He is, but retards like >>100163254 refuse to believe a guy could possibly not care about shoving his dick in other people.
The most romance One Piece will ever have is a last minute hookup at the end of the series, DBZ style. Luffy will always remain celibate though.
>>Capslock is cruise control for cool lol
Now that's what I call upset.
If that were the case, why does she try to wear her glasses as few times as possible? Tashigi is pretty vain, even if she doesn't want to admit it
You're thinking in terms of power levels. You think because, as kids, Kuina had a power level of 60 and Zoro had a power level of 50, that as adults, she'd have a power level of 520 and he'd have a power level of 510.
The whole point of the flashback and the Tashigi fight was that women naturally have a disadvantage. If Kuina had lived, she'd be weaker than Zoro now, even though she'd beaten him as kids.
He wasn't confirmed to be mentally ill at all, he just said he was busy doing shit and didn't have time for bitches.
Do you even read?
Kuina was stronger than Zoro and trained every day. Tashigi is weaker because she is just a geek who reads about swords all day
But he's ture. Guys saying they do not care about shoving the dick into a girl are just guys who gave up. They didn't decide to not fuck, they just can't find a way to get a grill. So the just say they are asexual.
Except Zoro said that was bullshit
This isn't trolling. I know trolls when I see them. You people actually believe what you're saying.
We saw her body
You are contradicting yourself. Seriously just stop.
>>this would be the perfect opportunity to reveal my ultimate technique and save the day!
>oh wait I'll rather suicide attack and save my supertechnique for when sales are low so stupid as fuck kids will start buying this manga again
He couldn't use his Zanpaktou like you just said here.
>>he also has something to absorb all my flames
Aizen said Yamamoto is stronger than him that is why he created Wonderweiss so he can stop his Zanpaktou from working. Also even if Wonderweiss wasn't there if Yamamoto used his bankai he would have destroyed the pillars just like how he almost destroyed SS. Like I said just fuck off.
I was fairly proud of >>100165917
No, he didn't, and no, it isn't, both in real life and in the One Piece universe. The whole Tashigi fight theme just sailed past your head.
WHAT IS YYH FOR 200
I don't care if he found love, Kuwabara got fucked over hard in that series.
That's exactly the opposite of everything Zoro's relationship with Kuina standed for.
His supertechnique is something that concentrates his flames into his blade you little fuck. This is why it would be the perfect counter to the flame absorber.
And clearly he didn't give a fuck about collateral damage as he was literally shooting first pillars out of the ground and nuked himself.
Stop being such a retarded Kubo cocksucker
Yes, okay, I fucked up the time form, my point still stands.
Your point is still wrong.
No it doesn't
No, it isn't. She had more talent than him, but she knew that when they grew up, biology would allow him to overcome that gap in talent. The themes of the manga have always been that there are real impossibilities and limitations that people have. Sometimes people die. Sometimes people lose. Sometimes people get fucked over, just because they were born a certain way or in a certain place.
What the fuck, asexuality isn't a mental illness, it's a sexual orientation. Oda confirmed in SBS Luffy had no interest in naked chicks and sex as whole. That basically means he is asexual.
There aren't asexual, they're lonely people who gave up. Have you seen that asexual chick with the rainbow hair ? She was hot.
>asexuality isn't a mental illness
Neither is homosexuality, right? Get out, degenerate.
Real life asexuality is a mental illness and it's never something that should be presented in a positive way. Anyway, Oda didn't say that Luffy has no interest in women; he just retconned Luffy's exaggerated reactions as him "copying Usopp". Don't lie, anon.
Did you completely forget the part where Zoro told her that it doesn't matter that she's a girl and shouldn't worry about stupid thing like that and that both will try to become the best swordsman no matter what?
Because that was the resolution of that conflict
again, it's the fucking opposite, she was afraid that it may happen but it wasn't true, that's the meaning of Zoro saying "is this what you'll say if I defeat you one day?" And then Zoro's entire powerlevel progression is fighting the nature, he pushes his limit to prove that you can become extraordinary through willpower no matter how fragile humans are to begin with.
Uh, Zoro saying that doesn't change the reality of the world.
No you get out you moronic mutton-head. Dismissing homosexuality as a mental illness is so 1980. Get with the times already.
You're either a complete retard or trolling at this point
Again, it's the fucking opposite. The Tashigi fight was the reality of Kuina's fears. A man will have a natural advantage over a woman, due to strength. This doesn't mean that there's no such thing as skill, but it does mean that with two fighters of similar skill level, natural biological differences will give one an advantage.
It's the same thing with the Fishmen. An individual human can become stronger than an individual Fishman, but humans are still naturally weaker than Fishmen, and no amount of speeches are going to change that.
Stop posting if you're just going to shitpost.
How the fuck can Yamamoto counter an ability that he doesn't even know exists? You're retarded.
>His supertechnique is something that concentrates his flames into his blade you little fuck. This is why it would be the perfect counter to the flame absorber.
That makes no sense. Wonderweiss was created to suppress Yamamoto's Zanpaktou there is no way to counter it reread the last few pages of 393.
I don't see why romance in OP wouldn't work. I would have trusted Oda if he aspired to have it.
OP can live without romance, but Oda could just write it in the end of the story (assuming everyone lives that is).
Honestly if i wanted to see some OP romance i'd go on Rule 34, which i do =)
Sure there is mostly porn there, but it's also a shipping haven.
>it's never something that should be presented in a positive way
It's neither negative nor positive, it's just the way some people are. You talk as if asexuals are unhappy, but the reason people call it a valid sexual orientation is because this is the way these people find happiness. Someone who doesn't have sex and is unhappy about it isn't asexual.
All this negative/positive bullshit are just religious morals leftovers (As for you, be fertile and multiply. Populate the earth and multiply in it) speaking through your mouth.
Asexuals are unhappy and generally commit suicide at a greater rate. This makes sense, because their minds don't function the way they are suppose to and they can't find pleasure in the company of the opposite sex the way they were meant to.
Why is the complete lack of any sexual desire classified as sexual orientation?
It suppresses his ability because it absorbs flames. It can't absorb ten trillion skeletons. But enjoy the Kubo dick. What should I actually care for if little kids enjoy pure cashgrab stories. Just don't tell me how "epic" they are.
If that's what you want to believe the message of that flashback was then there's no helping you. But good point in bringing up the Fishmen, since they're naturally stronger than humans, but because they're all ambitionless niggers they're all weak as shit
>Asexuals are unhappy and generally commit suicide at a greater rate.
You have a study to verify that, right?
None of that internet survey nonsense
a real one
printed with ink on paper
evaluated by multiple experts on the field
>It suppresses his ability because it absorbs flames.
No it suppresses Yamamoto's Zanpaktou not just his flames. I'm done arguing with you you're retarded.
Nigga,please.Horimiya and Yamada and the 7 witches are running right now and are glorious.
I guess you meant battle but even then there is stuff like Alive! TFE. best girl didn't win but it is so well written that I can even bitch about that.
> wanting to ruin an adventure show with muh shipping
too bad nothing that proves your point pops up
>all he does is absorb flames
>doesn't stop Yamamoto from shooting flames out of his swords
>still can use his suicide technique that almost killed Aizen
Bleachtard intelligence at it's finest. But don't worry, it's gonna be so so super epic when Urahara and Ichogo's dad and Yoruichi finally reveal their Bankais that they could've used on multiple occasions. Along with everyone else who hasn't used their final form for absolutely no reason, I can't wait!
Another counterpoint: Rave Master. I thought the romance in that was handled pretty well, and it was actually pretty important.
No idea. Why do we express the absence of any quantity with a zero ?
>Akane is introduced as 'Ranma's fiancée' from the first episode
Luffy/Nami is my guilty pleasure
Why is 1+2+3+4+5+6+...=-1/12?
I remember this. I chose to ignore it. It fucks with my head too much.
Yes the name of Wonderweiss's resurrection.
>all he does is absorb flames
He suppresses Yamamoto's Zanpaktou.
>doesn't stop Yamamoto from shooting flames out of his swords
But it did because shooting flames was part of Yamamoto's Zanpaktou.
>still can use his suicide technique that almost killed Aizen
That is Kido which is unrelated to his Zanpaktou. I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say you sound like a retard trying to talk about a series you know nothing about.
The pacing would hit a crawl harder than it is now. Over the course of the entire series (or at least numerous arcs/timeskips) I could see growing infatuation work. But to do a romance well you need the time and build up, OP as it is, focuses on bursts of 3-5 day periods of shit hitting fans before moving on. This isn't a good format for dropping in a steady romance, at least one that requires development and screen time.
If it was to be done, it needed to have been long ago. Side characters who get no screen time could work but the core cast has known each other for at best 6 months (the blue 5) to 2 (brook) and then a whole two years of no contact, romance it utterly off the table.
I'd have loved the series to mature (have the characters take the politics and their consequences seriously, discussing possible outcomes and all that shit before acting), bringing the darker shit that's there but not normally talked about to the fore front etc. But as Oda said, it's always going to aimed at 10 year olds, not the older crowd.
The transition to taking things more seriously needed to happen long ago, it's too late now. I'd still have loved a darker and edgier version, but it just doesn't fit the current character personalities. Novels detailing all the Roger era old gits when? Every factions formations, beliefs, goals and major events that shaped them.
>wanting an edgier version of One Piece
Yea, luffy and hancock. No matter how mad you faggots will get
>One Piece will just end with Luffy asking Smoker to take care of his child without ever mentioning who the mother is
Arrancar was terrible shit. What we've got right now, if fucking great, pay offs for all the hint drops from years ago. I just fucking hated the bloated long winded fights of that arc that just went fucking nowhere with characters drawing battles out instead of one shotting as often as possible. Kubo pace didn't help either, can't deny there wasn't a degree of plot dropped on us, but as a whole it was a terrible fucking mess.
Are there really this many hancock shippers on /a/ or are we just getting a couple of blatant samefags
There are so many tears in this thread
It's either a little group of really dedicated shippers or there actually are that many
>If Bleach had ended there, it would have been remembered as a good series
Hell no. Ending it at Soul Society would have do the trick.
Ending at Soul Society would've been stupid, because it just introduced the main villain.
I do agree though that the series is downhill after that
What is this forced FrankyxRobin faggotry you cock smoking shit eaters try to propagate here, where the hell does that even stemfrom you fanfiction fapping tumblrcunts? Stop it!
>What is this forced FrankyxRobin faggotry
Seriously they were pretty shipping friendly before the timeskip.
Daily fucking reminder
It comes from them being the two oldest members of the crew and from the Enies Lobby arc. They were captives together and were rescued -- both literally and figuratively -- by the Strawhats together. It's like the bond between people who survive a POW camp. That and their personalities compliment one another.
Also when she grabbed his balls.
she touched his dick once
that's seriously it
And they're both keeping the ancient weapons sort of secret, assuming Franky memorized Pluton's blueprints.
It comes from Oda labeling crew as family members, he put Robin as mother and Franky as father.
what's up with that anyways everyone knows chicks dig giant robots
Would be less creepy if Chopper had a more teenage looking main form now
Wasn't that mommy issues
Wan Piss is over
>asking readers to stick with him until the end
shit, if real life were a manga this would be a deathflag
Its basically inevitable with a world with so many pirates.
D: Here's my question: on p. 80 of Volume 42, Sanji says "I was raised to never kick a woman." Would that have been a lesson from Zeff the Chef? Would that mean Zeff is very soft on women, as well? Tell me. from Ariga-san
O: Oops, this one's from the same person as the last one. This is a good question though, so I'll answer it. When I drew Sanji vs Kalifa (Chapter 403), some people lauded Sanji's stance, and some people felt sorry for him. The truth is, I didn't really want to write those lines. Sanji doesn't have a "policy" of not kicking women; the truth is that he actually CAN'T kick them. He is a very proud man. I think he was really frustrated at that. think Nami recognized that, and chose to praise him for once. It's a scene that I hope will resonate with male readers, but everyone's free to take it as they wish. Also, Zeff is just a man among men.
How do you feel about this, /a/?
So it's psychological?
So that he could put to rest her dream once and for all since a woman can NEVER become the greatest swordsman, EVER and it's IMPOSSIBLE because she's a woman so it was a good thing that she suffered severe brain damage so and had amnesia.
She could finally move on with her life and do something more fitting for a woman.
Then she went and fucked it up by falling in love with swords all over again.
Wow, this thread is filled with one or two samefags who keep shitposting
>hurr u mad shippers
These shitposting kids are the reason everyone on /a/ hates the One Piece fanbase and use to spam its threads. This is almost Gaia level.
>op thinks oda doesnt want romance because its too deep for the kids
no you fucking retard shipperfag from gaia
it's because romance is gayer than actual gay stuff
romance is gayer tha just straight up two man fucking
An ongoing romance in a series that has run as One Piece has would be terrible. The main characters are stuck together on a ship. So they pretty much have to see an interact with each other everyday. To keep an ongoing romance, Oda would have to stretch it out some way. He could force the relationship to progress at a agonizingly slow pace. Or have the relationship progress then force everything back to status quo over and over again like in Inuyasha. Or have have the relationship develop a little and stay stagnant for long periods of time. Oda has a good sense of identity, in that he knows what the series is and what he is trying to do with it. He is more concerned with those areas than trying to shoehorn in every possible genre to please every audiance.. And he knows that romance does not fit well in the series and instead, focuses on other areas: adventure, world building, comedy, etc.
You and little kiddy shit like you needs to fuck off back to Gaia.
>But I'm the mature one because I hate romance! That makes me mature and the other side is little kids, lol XD!
Get the fuck back to Gaia. You are everything we fought to keep out of /a/.
Zoro also told her that she would grow up.
Dragon Ball was good up to the end of Namek
Android Saga was good at first then turned stupid when Cell showed up
We saw her grave during the timeskip
That was a joke, not a real romance.
Sex exists in One Piece but not romantic love
Nami will be pregnant with Luffys child at the end of the series/last chapter its prbly one of the last pages of the final chapter.
Nigga, age is just a number.
>girl actually falls for Sanji
Can you get a more obvious deathflag?
There is no romance in One Piece because all women do is steer meen away from their goals.
No, it's real romance. Both Violet and Sanji like each other.