WHAT THE FUCK?
FUCK YOU, SHAFT. FUCK YOU.
she is alive later
You know what, I'm going to write down your post number, this exact time, and a year from now I'm going to post just how slow you are to this shit.
My anon can't be this new.
Charlotte did nothing wrong.
Holy shit, a time traveler from three years ago.
I can't tell if you're this slowpoke or if you're beito
Welp. At least the new ED is badass.
You better deliver anon.
I can't wait for this.
I can't find the lyrics or the title anywhere.
I got hooked on this shit as early as the first episode.
How does /a/ track down OST?
>Madoka Magica is three years old
Sage and report.
You must be special breed of retard
Should have seen this coming.
she dies again in episode 10 lol
For what? Anyone who watches an old show for the first time is trolling? You people are truly retarded sometimes.
How do monkeys have refrigerators?
Yes, especially retards who can't even track the ED of some show.
Where else are they supposed to put their bananas and coconuts?
God forbid anyone watch an old show.
THE PLANET OF THE APES IS EARTH
DARTH VADER IS LUKE'S FATHER
NAGITA IS HARIME NUI IN DISGUISE
By the way? Not him >>100148722
I won't lie, I still can't properly wrap my head around it. It's almost 4 years since K-On ended.
What are you even saying? Can't track the ED of some show? What does that have to do with someone seeing Mami's death for the first time?
Don't worry anon you are not alone in your slowpoking I just finished Madoka yesterday I'm about to go through the first two movies and the drama cds before I go to the third movie.
I tried the mangas but they are shit
Quoted the wrong post.
You went full baka.
deliver or your a fag. make a mami headedslowpoke
>not even fixing it
Are you brain damaged?
>make a mami headedslowpoke
Will do anon, I've got a whole fucking year for this motherfucker.
We are square in the middle of this decade. Shows from the late 00's aren't "new" anymore, and changes in anime trends and art styles between then and now can be easily noticed.
I can't stop laughing, is this your first time on 4chan?
Whore I will capture whatever the fuck I damn well please.
He must be if he still hasn't fixed it.
what the fuck is going on
Got the rest?
Now you have to post that screencap in every thread, so Anon would be ashamed.
Nononono, make a Slowpoke with Mami's head on its tail.
Because Slowpoke tails are delicious.
what are you under the influence of?
No, but for some reason I'm being completely stupid tonight and both the internet and the captcha are being 13 angry niggers.
I meant I was the idiot who doesn't know how to track down OST, not the guy complaining about getting blasted for watching an old show for the first time. >>100148619 and >>100148892
IS THIS FIXED YET
This thread is falling apart fast.
Jesus Christ this thread... You're all a bunch of tryhard teenagers who've been on 4chan for less than 2 years calling someone else a newfag. Go to bed; you've got school in the morning.
You're not going to deliver and it wasn't even funny the first time.
i just finished madoka like a few days ago
havent watched the movies yet tho
I'm pretty surprised that someone can be on /a/ and not already know about Mami.
OP, you're the best OP ever.
your 1-year /a/non status is showing
Bullshit, I'll >deliver
This fucking guy.
I saw the mami scene and that's what made me watch Madoka.
Why was her soul gem on her head? Why!? That's a place enemies are generally going to be aiming! Damn it, Mami... ;_;
I honestly hope you do so I can laugh at you for being a faggot and stealing someone else's shitty joke
Already finished it, Kyouko was best, Kyubey is based etc;
Internet is being a shit.
16 is when I'll consider this decade in full motion. 06 is when the last decade really took off. But seriously, things from 2009 were new practically yesterday.
>coobie is based
no you piece of shit, a murderer of civilizations is not 'based' in any way
>not agreeing with his chicken analogy
yes, i equate sentient beings with cattle all the time
You're only livestock if you let yourself be livestock anon
When was the last time you saw an original joke on 4chan? Never
Assblasted moralfag social worker detected.
Kyouko was best girl, but Kyubey was best meduka meguca
QB is just a salesman, he isn't responsible for what the customers do with her merchandise, faggot.
I think you misspelled 9shit and reddshit
Nope. We've just gotten old enough that time seems shorter than it used to.
Kyubey is genderless.
Does it ever slow down? Things have sped up so much that I can't even properly experience life anymore.
>Kyouko was best girl
I like you.
Everyday from your birth is a progressively smaller fraction of your age
Can we contemplate our mortality later?
Keep thinking that way
I cant wait for 2023.
Your post can undoubtedly be classified as babby's first fucking stereotyped mainstream sell-out garbage autismal mediocre low-budget casual low-powerlevel ADHD hardsubs streamfag hyped spoon-fed otaku-pandering objectively bad aspie haremshit overrated DEEP deconstruction NTR cliche trope-filled generic ANGST mary sue underage escapist self-insert PLOT armor beta MC shonen edgy teenager gratuitous shock-value gore broken-powerlevels moeshit corporate product placement weeaboo kawaii uguu~ fetishist suspension of disbelief random asspulls garbage slutty waifu sakurafish SHAFT bouncing fanservice NEET-pandering downs syndrome filler arcs beach onsen vapid 4kids dubbed censored episodes WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS cutout sameface 1-dimensional yuri fujoshitbait characters shipperfag yuri tsundere fanwank braindead insulting and poorly written rushed and atrocious inconsistent convoluted vocaloid pedoshit last-place-on-sale-charts nolstagia googles grimDERP nico-nico 2ch otaku-pandering suffering porn ahegao face consumerist kiddy casual pretentious failed experimental anti-USA nanking-rape denying trainwreck watered-down plothole-ridden homoshit Evangelion wannabe hollywood rip-off unoriginal yandere RAPE RAPE RAPE lol so randum/b/ xD uninteresting anticlimactic DROPPED shallow haircut character development cancerous butchered DEEN QUALITY 8 frames per second mouthflapping powerpoint slideshow outsourced korean putrid soulless CG animation photoshop-filter backgrounds poorly done adaptation hipster entry-level timeskip forced drama cop-out power of friendship deus ex machina predictable tearjerker TWEEST BONES original shit ending with circlejerking delusional and easily trollable flavor of the month general threads imagedumps tripfaggotry sadpanda.jpg vlcsnap shitkaku 4:3 14 inches CRT Mac monitor arrogant retarded Guy Fawkes mask facebook protests cosplayer dubs-obsessed niwaka fanbase that's killing the industry.
>tfw i screencap all these posts so I can deliver glory on a monthly basis
So dick goes where?
In a mystical land where nobody uses buzzwords.
Putting our own mortality is nothing more than running away from reality. Stare your own fragility and insignificance right in the eyes. Don't fear it. You won't find happiness by turning a blind eye to it until your deathbed.
but DEEN is saving anime
Hell all of them except homu do.
Ironically she is one that deserves to die.
Add to your wisdom with age, but don't ever lose sight of the ambition of your youth.
In other news: CC has been watching Lelouch from the very beginning!
Better yet, have Mami's head on the tail and head.
Well, you type " madoka magica ed" into youtube then you feel like a gigantic retard as the pieces fall into place. Also type "full" if your looking for the full version.
It's not even really an applicable situation for the slowpoke, he didn't realize or bring up something late he just watched the episode late.
I meant without having to use Google's retarded mindbroken ass slave for video upload.
I had a feeling you might just be trolling along with this but now it's certain. You had me going for a bit there though.
no reason to lose your head OP it's just a show
I get it, I was being an idiot.
Can we just talk about Mami?
I'm still head over heels for these puns.
I don't like where this thread is headed
SUZAKU KILLS LELOUCH
Why did she just stood there and let her head get eaten?
I can't get my head around it to be honest.
I'm on page 8 in Foolz after putting in a search.
I don't think this is pasta.
She couldn't get her head around the situation.
It is pasta, I have it in my pasta folder.
But he's three years late, anon. I'll do it then.
Mark my words, OP. You will see on January 12, 2017 at 10:57:46 PM
You phrased that completely wrong.
Moral of the story: always keep a clear head in a stressful situation
QB greatest animu character of all time
he did nothing wrong
Ahh the first time watching Madoka. How I miss those days.
>he did nothing wrong
except for having absolutely no morals
Having no morals means it's impossible for you to be wrong.
Is that a bad thing?
No not really.
You posted here the second the other one died.
>tfw /a/ spoiled Mami dying
>Still felt shaken up seeing her body go limp
The other Madoka thread pruned about 10 seconds prior to your post. Could be a coincidence though. But it's kind of funny.
Cattle are sentient too. Most mammals are, in fact.
Try not to lose your head over it.
Funny when I first watched the tv series I would have just enjoyed this pic as a joke. Now after Rebellion I know that it's all too real. Poor Mami at least she'll have her loli daughteru.
She's destined to be forever alone, even more than Bowmura in the new universe.
Do any Homura waifufags feel guilty for loving her?
Not one bit.
Nah, I feel heart broken like those guys that experience a break up with a girl but can't get over them.
I feel kind of guilty because I know I'm not even worthy of being with her in my fantasies.
I don't understand anon. Give me a blog and elaborate.
I really wish they wouldn't have never given her that stupid loli, they are going to force so fucking hard that relationship in the second season and I will never get my team traffic lights.
why is her dress so hazukashii
madoka's was bad enough
>team traffic lights.
red yellow and green? who's green?
Before Rebellion I was pretty staunch on the side that Homura had always had a Platonic/friendship based relationship with Madoka and that any claims otherwise were just /u/ faggots. I liked how the tv series concluded with Madoka stating she's been her best friend and having her sent back down essentially as Madokami's apostle.
After Rebellion I fought for a little bit like the first few weeks after viewing but caved in to the fact that Homura is a lesbian with an obsession with Madoka.
So now I feel it's pointless to waifu over Homura, in the tv series you get the sense that Homura could have something else in her life outside of Madoka, now all she has left is protecting Madoka and maybe receiving her romantic love back.
It's okay, Homu doesn't think she's worth Madoka's love either.
miss forbidden love
I love her devil dress but I won't watch the movie because I'm worried it will ruin my love for her.
It's perfect for seducing Madokas.
Green lights are blue in Japan. Or they call them blue. Whatever.
Is a pun in jap, anon.
It made me love her even more, but that's just my opinion.
You'll either become a beta slave who thinks he can gain her attention by letting her walk on you like a carpet or feel like you broke up and lose the ability to fantasies at all.
For the second one, you can always just waifu Moemura and got to her before Madoka turned her into a dyke.
Nagisa a cute, but damn if I'm not buttblasted over MamiKyou getting totally ignored in favor of KyouSaya. I knew it was going to happen, but Mami getting a loli as a consolation prize just feels like a kick while I'm down.
Wow I had no idea. Thanks
You're looking at waifufaggotry all wrong. Her sexuality doesn't matter. It's all just fantasy. It's all in your head. There doesn't need to be a chance that she would ever love you if she were real. That's not the point. Homura can still be your waifu even if she's a lesbian.
Homura's dress has to be a bit tight around the chest for her.
Or you'll want to be Homura and lewd Madoka
I'd like to add that it's not like idols in Japan. They have to pretend to not be dating and be pure and all that shit to create the illusion to all the beta faggots that there some nominal chance that they can get with them. Waifufaggotry isn't like that at all because there's inherently no chance because shes 2d and you're 3d.
You could theorize that Homura might have autistically latched on to you if you were the first one to be nice to her in timeline 1.
>I liked how the tv series concluded with Madoka stating she's been her best friend
"Best friend" is the term they have to use exactly for people like you, faggot.
Originally, the word for 'blue' was the same as 'green.' Nowadays for 'green' they often use みどりor even グリン, but the word あおい still can cover both. I'm pretty sure this is how it goes, at least. It's been a while.
I like you anon
>being 2D and the devil isn't a dealbreaker, but being a lesbian is
Never change /a/
That's pretty much all I have left to cling too. It's not too horrible a fantasy.
Ahhh.. Those were the days.
It is complete bullshit thanks to rebellion nowadays. It pisses me off someone would tarnish name of such masterpiece like Madoka with shit like Rebellion.
Good thing I neglected the movies, that bad?
Well that's neat. If I ever go to Japan I can be confident about my eye color, even though no one is ever sure if it's blue or green.
They'll keep pandering to me too. Because I'm a larger market share than you yurifags.
>madoka and homura will never kiss
I liked Rebellion.
In what universe was Rebellion not totally yuri-pandering?
They are bad if you liked original for story and character development.
The movies go full cashgrab fan-pandering with lolplottwist for the sake of plottwist.
People like shit like SAO too.
I don't think the Japanese 青 can be green anymore except in certain phrases and for traffic lights.
Visually and musically the movie is beautiful. It just strengthens yurism in the show with Sayaka and Kyoko holding hands as Sayaka says she regretted not becoming friends before she died and Homura being a canon lesbian.
Whose plot exactly? There is a lot of character development.
Ours. Homura's outfit is pandering to people who sexualize megucas for example. Also there's more Homura leg shots than I can count with one hand, and lets not even talk about the Mami scenes. There seems to be this misconcption that Rebellion only panders to yurifags.
>There is a lot of character development.
There is tons of it in tv series.
Then they can easily pander to both, I don't see the problem here.
There are people who don't sexualize megucas?
It's fine if you don't like the movie, but the pandering moments took up far less time than the cool moments that weren't.
The plot twist could have been built up to more steadily, but at least it's not drastically out of character. The ending I thought was great, and doesn't even need a sequel (though to be fair that sentiment could be echoed regarding the series).
The original story actually left me happy as I finished it. It successfully spread it's message of hope, the final screen with the written out dialogue really was inspiring.
Rebellion left me bitter, made me feel Madoka's been shown to be worthless by Homura again (which is a doubly painful issue because I sympathize with Madoka feeling she's worthless and can't help anyone) and frustrated that I have to wait a long ass time before I find out if there is anything wrong with Homura's world and what happened to Madokami.
Unless that cool moment has strong basis in plot and character development, then said moment too is pandering.
Yeah. So no ones plot changes then?
>Rebellion left me bitter
I think that was the intention.
>but Mami getting a loli as a consolation prize just feels like a kick while I'm down.
That's exactly right, Nagisa just feels incredibly cheese, I wouldn't have bothered me so much if she had been relevant or a good character but she fucking suck, what makes it worse is that the movie could have work without her and Mami being the bond that unites Kyouko and Sayaka would have been much more interesting (as it happens in every fucking extra materials)
The end of the series left me feeling hurt and alone like Homura. She'd failed at everything and her power to go back and try again was gone.
Rebellion felt more like nervous optimism mixed with "oh god what has she done".
No, not really. Because to give the ultimate pandering to Yurifags, there needs to be a definitive declaration that Homura and Madoka want to fuck. I know you guys aren't satisfied with just ai yo. I fucking know it. You want them to go all out and stop teasing the yuri. And you know just as well as I do they will. And out with it out of fear of isolating the other portion of the fanbase.
They never will I mean. They will never go all out with yuri pandering because they will offend me.
>than the cool moments that weren't.
The fight between Mami and Homura was cool but it doesn't make it less pandering, that fight could haver been made in 1 minute or 10 minutes and wouldn't have changed the story.
Hmm. Thinking that way, I suppose the gun-kata fight could be called pandering, since there are several other ways Homura's confrontation of Bebe could have turned out. On the other hand, I'm not sure where the line should be drawn as far as what counts for "strong ties." What is your opinion on things like the Cake Song and the other Nightmare parts? Do you think they were important to establish that Homura's world was a surreal, happy-fun-times land, for example?
I still love the movie, but it's interesting to think about it from your perspective.
It's funny, my brother and I are on opposite ends on this issue too. He's completely in support of Homura's actions, even going as far to say if Akuma Homura decided to kill Madokami to protect Madoka he'd be ok with it.
Right now I can't offer too many defenses for my side since Homura's world is seemingly better off than how Madoka left it. I just stay suspicious much like Sayaka does that she's done something terrible in her obsession and mistrust.
>She'd failed at everything
But the point is that she seemed content. There was no need for a fucking sequel in which she feels lonely and causes the Madopocalypse because it conflicts with her feelings at the end of the series.
This could have all been resolved if they just somehow said "her wish wasn't granted, she is compelled to act to make it reality".
I'm sure most Homufags would defend anything she does. I know I would at least.
It's funny how concerned Mami was when Homura looked like she was going to shoot herself in the head, she was just minutes ago aiming a gun right in the center of Homura's face.
Imagine if she just let Homura shoot herself.
That would require explaining exactly how Bowmura's timeline / universe worked. As it is, it's unclear at what point her memories returned and if she made a different wish or whatever. It could work, but they'd have to make sure it didn't cause a plothole.
No, god no please making Homura do it out of lack of free will is an awful idea. It also goes against what the show has given us. Kyoko went against her wish, but she wasn't forced to follow it she just was punished by losing her illusion magic.
They also could have realized it was a possible explanation, but avoided it because it creates a situation where Madoka and Homura are in eternal conflict due to their wishes.
The only way it could be solved is if one of them never made a wish in the first place, but both of them are like the BYDO who came from a future timeline that has been erased, so their origins are unreachable.
It's a "mouthful" to "swallow", right?
I got "fed up" with the anime for days after being served such a horryfying "dish".
You're really reaching here.
>Do you think they were important to establish that Homura's world was a surreal, happy-fun-times land, for example?
Yes, see, this is the difference, these scenes have a point, these scenes are there to give a message, you can say that the scene in the field of flowers is fanservice for the hug and everything else but that scene is there to give a message, you can't say the same about Mami and Homura fight that is only there to look cool.
I'm a Homura supporter too, and I think her really terrible things are yet to come. She's going to hurt the other girls, but she's going to hurt herself the most. Madoka will probably get the worst of it, but it will really tear up Homura inside. Sayaka will get it too, but Homura won't feel a thing doing it.
It seems to me like Homura is headed towards spending the rest of eternity alone and cut off from Madokami by her own stubbornness.
I wouldn't say content. More like knowing there was nothing she could do about it, and soullessly doing her duty to kill wraiths while she slowly went insane over being the only one who remembered Madoka.
Homura and Madoka are completely different from Kyouko.
Anime is a visual medium. One that can only look as good as the talent behind it. If you're not putting in scenes to show off your animators talent or to look pretty, you may was well do manga or a LN. I don't understand how a medium doing what it's supposed to do is pandering.
In that sense then, I find myself agreeing with you. A good number of things were indeed there because fans would find them awesome, and did not necessarily add a great deal to the meat of the story.
Incidentally, I'm curious about your opinions on the last fifteen minutes. Are you the guy I first quoted, who mentioned "lolplotwist for the sake of it?"
>I wouldn't say content
I would. The viewer is not given any indication that she's feeling sad. Episode 12 is, for all intents and purposes, a happy ending. I'm just fucking glad Rebellion is supposed to be separate from the TV series.
What are you talking about, they literally are the same person.
>"Don't forget. Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you. --As long as you remember her, you are not alone."
From just the tv series this idea that Homura was powerless to change anything certainly is valid. However I feel the tv series made it more clear that Homura was like the Apostles after Jesus' death. Their Messiah was dead, persecution from both Romans and Jews, but they continued to spread the message in full belief that God/Jesus/Holy Spirit was with them and waiting for them at death.
>continued to spread the message
Yeah, I definitely agree with this.
Well with the resurrection, it's more like "not present physically on earth anymore."
Can we expect to see Homu's real smile someday?
I suppose that sounds about right.
That leaves the question, just what happened between the end of episode 12 and the beginning of Rebellion?
I dunno anon, at this point I honestly don't know...
I'm not him, but I also think that, Homura motivations make sense but AI YO was completely unnecessary and more when you consider that in the scene where Madoka reach to Homura through the window you can interpret at first view as Homura accepting her mistakes and the salvation of Madokami and go with Yuri Valhalla end without problem.
If we get a happy ending, sure. I don't think that Homura will become irredeemably evil.
>implying the last ten minutes of rebellion aren't full of homusmiles
I don't think she could do anything that's irredeemable in Madoka's eyes, just in her own.
Homura can't seem to let go of her role as the protector.
>I don't think she could do anything that's irredeemable in Madoka's eyes, just in her own.
It's not her opinion that matters.
>but AI YO was completely unnecessary
The power Homura got from AI YO was unprecedented, yeah. Fanwank can come up with all kinds of things to explain this, but it's a little odd after the part in the series where Kyouko and Madoka try to use the POWER OF LOVE to no effect. It's not the same kind of circumstance and Homura is arguably still a kind of witch, but there could have been more explanation.
>Homura accepting her mistakes and the salvation of Madokami and go with Yuri Valhalla end without problem.
Her actions in splitting Madoka and wrecking the incubators are explained in a variety of ways. I'm not sure how much I buy into the theory of "But the QBs would have just tried to trap Madokami again" since only Homura had direct memories of her, but with their ridiculously advanced technology, and Mami and Kyouko having seen her personally, I won't write it off completely.
I think her real motivations come from her arrogance. She's taken an aloof, condescending approach to dealing with the other girls for a long time now, and she only trusts herself at this point. From her point of view, Madoka's in a shitty position, stuck outside the universe devoted to mercy-killing all those girls. In reality, Madoka probably really is content to help them all and stay together in yuri valhalla, but good luck convincing Homu of that. So Homura, probably influenced by Madoka's past desires ("don't let me get tricked" etc), decided to put the human part she loved in a gilded cage. She also has that serious self-loathing going on. She probably doesn't feel deserving of eternal bliss, so rather than go up to heaven, she drags the mortal part to the real world with her. I think part of that is symbolized by the higanbana, right?
Sorry, I've gone on a lot here, and you've probably heard this all before. I just think that Homura's actions
Stop posting your stupid del/u/sion and go back >/u/
But they're "fuck this world and all who inhabit it" smiles. Not happyhomu smiles.
>Sorry, I've gone on a lot here, and you've probably heard this all before. I just think that Homura's actions
...Are pretty understandable, all things considered.
B..but I didn't ask for this kind of smile.
I really hope they fix that scene in the Blu-ray, that looks so goofy and forced, the smile in the manga is much better.
Having morals is a weakness.
QB remains best character
Either I'm Homura and didn't even realize it or pic related
>Madoka's love is unconditional and everlasting
True, but much like the Judeo-Christian God we're not required to love him back or accept salvation. Homura can easily force herself to go to Hell where Madoka can never see her unworthy face.
To me, not only is she extremely smug, but her eyebrows make me think she's holding back tears.
Those are heavily autistic.
That ending is almost too good to be true.
She probably has had nightmares about timeline 3 every night of her life since it happened.
Happyhomu smiles probably won't happen until she's in her chair next to Madoka again.
Well, it's Homura we're talking about.
it's cool, OP
Here go, found her.
Everyone but Homura has a zillion chairs
Obviously chairs are the key to a fulfilling life
>Homura can easily force herself to go to Hell where Madoka can never see her unworthy face.
Homura already gave up on that in Rebellion. She decided that she'd be okay with becoming anything so long as Madoka is with her. If Homura tries to shut herself away again, Madoka will break through to her.
See there she just looks like she's on drugs, I'll stick with the movie version.
Why the fuck does she have so many chairs?
Becoming the devil isn't normal, but on meth it is.
>bought all the Rebellion signboards I was missing for 136 dollars
There's no way I'll ever regret this!
Isn't that the point? She's thrilled because she finally won.
>in the scene where Madoka reach to Homura through the window you can interpret at first view as Homura accepting her mistakes and the salvation of Madokami and go with Yuri Valhalla end without problem.
How so? If anything that scene was foreshadowing the ending. She said that it didn't matter what form she took on, it'll be fine as long as Madoka's there. She decided that just letting herself die as a witch was taking the coward's way out, and instead, she should seize her wish with both hands.
except when you realize they cost 25 cents to produce, and will lose a majority of its value in a years time
I remember that meguca's house was weird that having ridiculously many number of certain object. Mami was normal though
Clocks, Mirrors, Chairs... etc
In the pseudofuturistic society of Mitakihara, your socioecomonic status is represented by the number and variety of chairs you own.
Thrilled is fine, she looks fucking high.
Homura moved in to some kind of a weird-ass clock tower or something, didn't she?
It's an apartment that she changed into a Tardis to make it bigger on the inside.
When she says that didn't matter what form she took, she is referring to the Homulilly form and when she says she was being a coward she refers to the fact of wanting to die and betray her desire to be with Madoka again.
That scene was made intentional to be interpreted in two ways, anon.
Those are some fucking ugly chairs.
Chairs represent the number of people dear to that person, note that the barrier of Gretchen is full of chairs.
And Madoka is no longer with her, there was a lot of symbolism on that, anon.
The one thing that really bothered me about that epilogue where the fucking Witch Barrier wings Homu grew.
Rebellion explain that at least.
Interpreting it as her thinking about what she's about to do makes more sense. Why would she be talking about being Homulily when she was about to break out of the barrier anyway? Narratively speaking, it would be pointless.
>Rebellion explain that at least.
No it didn't? They don't explain shit.
She is and she isn't. Homura doesn't have Madoka by her side but she does have Madoka in the palm of her hand.
She had glowy pink wings at right before the ending part when she jumped off the building to kill some wraiths. I guess them turning witchy was foreshadowing to Rebellion.
You even read my original post? I'm talking about if the end with AI YO didn't exist.
>I guess them turning witchy was foreshadowing to Rebellion.
No, not really, the wings weren't in the original script.
Well, it did exist, so I think it's pretty clear how they wanted it to be interpreted. You can think that she just was talking about wanting to be with Madoka beforehand, but you'd clearly be wrong.
So they were just there to look pretty?
when they break her out of the prison-thing they are in the same exact wasteland the epilogue ended on.
It's up to speculation why they were included. Maybe just a vague sequel hook.
>Mami being the bond that unites Kyouko and Sayaka
Yes, it was something added by the animators
What do you mean, no? I said it's up to speculation.
And it's a stupid speculation because that wasn't the intention of the wing.
The wings based on just the tv series were not a negative thing, when they sprout Homura hears Madokami's voice to "do her best" and smiles as she goes in to attack the wraiths. This fight is also immediately after the quote of "Don't forget, always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you- as long as you remember her you are not alone.
So why did they add it?
You don't know what the intention was either, unless your dad is an animator for Shaft.
I don't think you can say for sure they weren't supposed to be a negative thing, they certainly look witchy.
It might have come down to the pink wings not looking as good against the desert background.
Even if they are witchy, that fits Madokami. Even in the tv series she showed that she basically took in at least the familiars of witches and Rebellion confirmed that witches were made subservient to the Magical Girls who ascended to Madoka's heaven.
It might make sense after Rebellion, but after the series we had no reason to believe that people associated with Madoka would get witch powers. Witches were portrayed exclusively as bad things.
>yfw no best girls time line
True but like I said, Madoka was seen positively interacting with an Anthony. It's strange, Madoka specifically said she wished she could destroy witches before they're born, yet as a goddess she spares them and gives them new purpose as servants to their Magical girl and to her.
Kyouko and Sayaka always have differences and is Mami the who forcing them to sit down and discuss their differences, anon.
Mami still won't have anybody close to her, you want her to be a third wheel?
>Sayaka still kills herself, leaving Kyouko alone again
>Homu has no madoka anymore, leaves the group afterward likely.
>Mami forever alone once again. Doubtful that Kyouko would stick around once Wraith activity went down.
There is a KyouSaya timeline.
So what's going on here in those moon runes?
Better to be in a threesome that to be associated with a shitty character like Nagisa.
Mami is being chuuni. Thinks black wings are super cool.
It makes sense to think that she would bring witches with her to heaven, but we had no reason to think she'd do anything with them other than that. It's quite a stretch to go from petting an Anthony on the head to giving magical girls witch powers. Most of the speculation after the series was that that scene was Homura going nuts and/or turning into a witch.
Nagisa isn't that bad. She might be useless, but she's just a loli.
mami a pedo
Fuck off. MamiNagi best OTP.
I believe its' called the center wheel. She helps bring the OTPs together with her senpai-ness.
Plus she has Nagisa now, so she'll have her hands full.
she's just desperate for affection
>having this much shit taste
It's true that Madoka and Homura would likely never have met and hit it off in the first place without Mami.
I'd really like to see extended cuts of those early timelines. It'd help to get a look at exactly how Homura became so obsessed with Madoka.
She died before Kyouko even showed up.
Of course, it's only right to be jealous of Homura's wings.
What are you talking about? Kyouko is her sister, that's much closer that "Bebe, the pet."
You're just jealous you don't have a pet loli.
I'd rather have a homuhomu.
One year? Fucking lame.
I will cut you.
Dude that's the best kind. Who else can understand Homura?
She used flood lights to make the room white. The moving monitor wall is futuristic but technically not impossible. And the circular benches can probably be found at ikea.
>"No stop! You'll split me in two!"
Madoka, if only Homura would give her a chance.
Homura wants Madoka, not herself. Or a piece of her, at least.
Nothing wrong with selfcest
>no melon slices on top
The pendulum is really weird, the room would have to be unrealistically big to allow that.
>not cutting in half
You had one job
>OP stealing EVA faggotry
>this guy stealing Geass faggotry
Create your own content Madokafags
Why is there 2 Kyonko?
older buildings have like 3m ceiling height
Pretty sure that's before the movie, probably Madoka birthday.
something something omake something kyonko's from different timelines. one is genderswapped the other was always female iirc.
>those bruises on Madoka's arms
>that abusive relationship
I would spoil everything for you, but I`m too lazy to remember what happens in the end
Madoka becomes God or some shit like that
seems to be mutual, considering homu's shackles
We pretty much covered that, thanks.
But that was her witch form, or symbolic to what Kyubey did.
I want to beat up Homura
Kinda funny how adding eyelashes to Homura changes her so much in appearance.
She got those bruises from Walpurgis, anon.
Sure, sure, she fell down the stairs and ran into a witch. We've all heard that one before.
Fuck you, man.
homu a cute
I think I need to go cry after seeing that.
No time for crying, it's time for the next loop. Get out of the hospital bed and go murder Oriko in her sleep.
Moemura would make the cutest sounds every time you hit her. Hell you don't even have to hit her that hard and she'd make a yelp. You could beat her up in public and pass it off as teasing. Pulling her braids might be fun too. Just avoid the glasses because breaking those would be just plain rude.
Homura would just try to bear it, but it just make the occasional grunts and gasps she does let out all the more satisfying. If she grits her teeth it just gives an opportunity to smack her jaw. If its post-madokami it might be fun to steal her ribbon and threaten to cut it up.
Akuma Homura would just revel in it. Immediate Ahaego after the 3rd punch. Disgusting and vile. would not touch.
She didn't get enough character development for me to care about her death.
You guys always overreact
Best scene of the franchise
>murder Oriko in her sleep.
I'm conflicted about if this is morally acceptable, considering when she becomes a Magical girl she basically becomes a sociopath that murders other Magi to create a diversion.
It wasn't just the death itself. It was madoka crying afterwards. And then the fucking cut to Magia, revealing the ED. You have to remember that Ep1 & 2 didn't have any ED.
That did hit me like a truck.
Gotta get that attention, right?
What's better way to do that than to kill a character.
ah, i haven't read the spin-off manga, does homura really have to do that every timeline? That would be a pretty grim duty
No, Oriko appearing and meddling was a fluke. Homura commented that it was a very divergent timeline.
That's good to hear.
Gen never alludes to this, so I think it's safe to say it's outside her control + irregular time line to never happen again.
As shown with Sayaka, the meguca universe has strong karmic consequences to murder, which she was implied to have done in the train.
>even then Madoka is wiping away Homura's tears
You're mean, anon.
What happened to fancut-kun? Shouldn't Director's Cut Episode 2 be out today?
Yeah, yeah, it was unexpected, but plot and characters isn't even that good to make this show so popular, still wondering why madoka has so many fans.
It was good in my opinion. It created a lot of discussion. You should watch it yourself and form your own opinion.
>The power Homura got from AI YO was unprecedented,
Speaking of fanwank:
People we love have the power to hurt us, in part because we lower our defenses around them.
Homura was someone who Madoka loved and trusted, which I think is what gave her the "special access" needed to divide Madoka and steal part of her power. "Ai yo" may have even helped to make Madoka more vulnerable in that critical moment.
It was a terrible betrayal of trust, done for ulruistic reasons. I still love Homura as a character and just wish she had run her idea past Madoka and worked something out instead.
That wouldn't have been nearly as much fun though.
I kinda hope Madoka gets mad at Homura for once or actually hurt about this blatant betrayal of trust.
>betrayal of trust
she said she can see everything, all the timelines. she should have seen that coming
>just wish she had run her idea past Madoka and worked something out instead.
She can't exactly just go to her and say, "hey, Madoka, I'm gonna undo everything you dedicated your existence for, because I think you deserve to be happy."
The point was that Madoka would say no, no two ways about it.
>still wondering why
cause you're an autist, simple as that
This is the closest you going to get, Madoka is a saint.
Please don't pay any attention to the plotholes.
what an original joke
Everything up to that point, perhaps?
That's more 'serious' character development than Homu went through
Wasn't it told through QB's exposition that Madoka couldn't interfere with what they did to Homura until they allowed her to?
That doesn't change the fact that Madokami should have seen AI YO.
if you can see the future then you should be able to see that part of the future too
There's only one thing you can do anon as long we hold that screencap of you!
Become a trap and satisfy us by sucking our cocks!
the only thing he did wrong for me was that he claimed to be this unemotional being and yet he clearly had emotions
But that actually sounds enjoyable
I thought it was that souls could enter the field, but not leave? Kyuubey set it up so that they'd be able to observe Madokami and find a way to control her. So Madokami came down with her friends and entered the field, but gave her memories/power to Sayaka, so that the incubators wouldn't get any data from her.
Madokami's presence only is where Magical Girls exist. She can see into the past as far back as the first magical girl and as far into the future as the last magical girl to exist.
Homura at that point was neither a magical girl or a witch, she was in some limbo position of a sentient witch.
That would be the "work something out" part of that statement.
The fact is that Madoka is heavily restricted by the conditions of her wish, and Homura is able to help her work around those restrictions. More flexibility can only be a good thing.
kyouko and mami were nearby, therefore magical girls were around to be observed by madoka
I can see duality being the happy end that can occur for Homura and Madoka. Still I hope Madoka gives Homura one of those hurt scowls instead of completely forgiving her for slicing her soul in half.
>into the future
Can you give a source on that?
Homura doesn't want Madoka to be a deity responsible for the lives of everyone. She thinks it's a burden too great to bear, and desperately wants to free Madoka. The two girls want completely different things. Any compromise would be too great for Homura.
Well, making time travel work in a story ever is almost always ridiculous, but maybe think about it this way: Yoda couldn't see into Anakin's future in the same way Madoka probably couldn't since she was also clueless about Homura's situation, Madoka even mentioned that when she came to bring Homura salvation after Homura's witch was defeated. Those aren't my final thoughts or anything, but it's a start.
Just a theory I accept thinking about the extent of Madoka's power. Sorry probably should have been clear on that.
Fuck yeah! Science!
That kind of makes me like Kyubey a bit more. They just need an education in ethics.
YEAH HOE COME HERE BITCH!
I guess it was the will of the karmatic system.
She still is a magical girl at that point, is after she stealing the powers of Madokami that she changed, and even if Madoka can't see what happen it should be a big flag to be extra careful.
I won't argue with that, but I think Homura will eventually be forced to accept a compromise as the lesser of the available evils.
>without any method of testing it we've created a barrier that is capable of keeping god out!
That is not who you direct your rage at in this show.
>Can you give a source on that?
And she doesn't have her powers limited to magical girls because she can still see her family.
Remember when we thought Tatsuya remembering Madoka would be important?
>and the universe that might be one day
Welp I guess the only answer is >>100163751
I guess Miyazaki can have all the animated Oscars this year...
Didn't QB make it clear that she was already past the point of being a Magical Girl at that point in time?
This makes sense to me >>100163961
Homura was a witch, but still in a soul gem. A chicken, but still in the egg. If Madoka's wish involved magical girls exclusively, I don't think Homura could be considered one at that point, despite still having a soul gem.
Makes a good point, but again, Madoka was completely blind to what was happening due to the Incubators, and whether or not she knew what they were planning, she probably couldn't have intervened directly; which in turn would make the incubators space, the one that completely excludes the cycle, i.e Madoka, a completely blank space in Madoka's mind. Something she mentioned when she came to save Homura, something along the lines of "I almost forgot".
Homuhomu is already grown up. She's spent 10 years repeating the timeline. Or maybe more traumatized than grown up.
No one thought that, except maybe the Tatsuya fanfic spammers.
So was the point of him remembering just to make that Meta comment about Madoka just being some anime character?
>Didn't QB make it clear that she was already past the point of being a Magical Girl at that point in time?
No, that was after the fact.
Homura wasn't a witch because witches don't exist, she was a magical girl at that moment.
AI YO happens out of the field of QB, she should see without problem.
pretty accurate depiction of me and the two dudes I sat next to during the movie.
Could she really if that was the very moment she would be stripped of her powers?
She said she can see everything.
a tug at your heartstrings
Maybe she thought she could, she could see everything but we know she doesn't quite know everything. One blank timeline in the midst of an infinite number of others.
Even that one timeline where she kept Madoka locked in her basement all month and raped her!?
It's probably her favorite time line.
such a great ending, shame on shinbo and gen for fucking it up with rebellion
I haven't watched anything except the TV series.
Where is this? I need to see it.
no, the first 2 movies are just a recap, and rebellion shits on everything the TV series stood for.
Madokami is just the law of cycles. She is doing what she has to do.(that the whole point why Homura doesn't consider her as real Madoka) Even if she saw that coming, she couldn't resist Homura.
>rebellion shits on everything the TV series stood for
still harping on shit you don't understand I see
>she couldn't resist Homura.
I always thought she was content. Or at least her determination to fight in Madoka's steed, to uphold her will, was much stronger than the loneliness she might feel of not having Madoka physically with her. Gen did call her a Madoka evangelist, and she literally had angel wings.
So I just assume the black wings, eventual witch-out is her inevitable fate(huge demon fight?), or QB interference, or at least not entirely because she's just lonely.
>Or at least her determination to fight in Madoka's steed, to uphold her will, was much stronger than the loneliness
Initially, yes. But the sands of time did wear her down.
Don't know what you mean, but I just laughed >>100162530 that someone can't accept Rebellion.
Are you saying that Madokami has no conscience? Because that's wrong.
I remember when I first watched the 3rd episode with a buddy. I thought she would come back to life /a/ but she didn't shit was not sunshine and magic.
All because of the power of friendship
And when she came back for 10 seconds in episode 10 everything went down the drain.
>shit was not sunshine and magic.
Mami is the sunshine in my sketch.
She'd just ruin things.
She has, but her actions is limited by her wish anyway. Also she looks braindamaged comparing to normal Madoka probably because of her omniscience.
I guess so. Just throwing the idea out there. She went through like 100 time lines or something absurd, fighting alone, yet she witches out seemingly almost immediately in the new world?
Might be some other factors here, or maybe it really was just separation. If that's the case, I like to subscribe to the theory of Homura baiting QB to see if Madoka is untouchable. If she isn't, great, time to go meet her again, but if she is... well, you know. Time to enslave the incubators and achieve true happy ending with everyone together again.
If any character is smart enough to pull something like that off, it'd be Homura. By experience alone she's a decade ahead of the other megucas.
JESUS CHRIST BECOMES GOD
We actually don't know how long after Episode 12 did Rebellion took place. Madoka has always been intentionally vague about its timings.
>The plot twist could have been built up to more steadily,
The movie is almost three hours long and its pretty fucking long for an anime movie.
What more could you want? A Rebellion Part 1 and Rebellion part 2?
Never gets old.
The human characters weren't noticeably older.
we don't know how much time passed between white wing homura and homura on her death altar
If you remove the fanservice I'm sure you can get a half hour or an hour.
But the "fanservice" has the dialogue and the foreshadowing?
There wasn't much of it besides what happened with Sayaka and Kyouko(which certain people are still upset with)
Don't get aHEAD of yourself OP, at least wait for ep 10 to really lose your HEAD, when you see where all this has been HEADing. It's a HEADful, gotta tell you, I HEAD to take a break.
10/10 post man
do not steal
That was actually my first interpretation of what happened. Mostly becasue of the:
>I've been waiting for this moment.
>I've finally caught you.
It could be just a translation issue, but those sentences gave me the feeling that Homu was trying to capture Madoka for some time.
Then why did she insist on dying within her barrier and the isolation field?
It doesn't have to be total super keikaku planning, but experimentation, risk taking, statistics, experience might give her the motive to do something kinda crazy like that.
I doubt she knew specifically how everything would play out.
Right, but Mami and Kyouko are still fine, seemingly not aged. Or maybe megucas really can stop aging, or at least stop the physical body from growing old. It's actually 20 years into the future.
What? I wanted to be optimistic, and if you want to consider the TV end a good end, I would think you have to assume Homura lives quite a long time fighting for Madoka's world. To simply give up that fight so quickly seems strange to me, maybe there are other things to consider.
Maybe it was intentionally left this vague to generate this kind of speculah.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Homu needs her flatchest.
>Not wanting Mumi to be a pedo
What's wrong with you?
Even if the MGs can do this, all the human characters weren't much older either.
Her plan seemed permanently out of reach. Plus, I don't think that she had decided to go through with it before.
Because everyone's memories, including hers, were screwed inside the barrier. Think something like the Death Note arc where Light makes himself forget everything. But as I said it was my first interpretation and now i agree with the interpretation that she changed her mind during the flower field scene and the scene when they destroy the isolation field.
She's a fucking pedo, just look where her hand is heading
it's ok, nagisa probably has more experience than her age would allow. you know, timeless yuri valhalla shenanigans.
I just posted devil Homu. And I like Rebellion ending much more.
Didn't she witch almost immediately when she became a meguca?
Madoka and Homura are so fucking pure, everyone else has their hands all over each other.
Homura is the dirtiest girl of them all.
yes, once she realized that she wasted a wish that could have saved her mother on cake.
I'm only disappointed there are no good homucifer porn doujinshi was scanned.
>original joke do not steal
That's just depressingly stupid. I mean people say Sayaka is dumb all the time, but Nagisa really takes the cake.
we redid it in the Eva threads successfully.
That's because there is no character with that name, silly.
If I want to watch Madoka, should I watch the 12 episodes first or can I just watch the movies?
Go with the episodes first. Some people might say they have more filler, but they give you more to love about the characters. I'd go episodes, movie 1 & 2, then Rebellion.
Preordering via Amazon Japan now up:
Watch the 12 episodes, skip movies 1 and 2 (exact same thing but on fast-forward), watch movie 3.
But, most of the time those chairs are empty.
>Nagisa really takes the cake
Do not think I'm not aware of what you did there
The new OST alone makes the movies worth watching.
Just get a copy of the ost if you love it that much. It's not that interesting to rewatch and certainly not worth it if you just watched the tv series.
>It's not that interesting to rewatch
Are we talking about the same series here?
You'll pick up on small details that you missed the first time around.
Is there a proper rip of rebellion yet?
Yes. And if you want to rewatch, just rewatch the episodes which have all the content.
I'm trying to save the guy from watching Madoka's Greatest Hits 1 & 2 since it's really boring. I know because I thought 1 & 2 would have new content and wasted a lot of time waiting for it to appear.
There's a decent camrip out. It's not perfect, but it's watchable.
BD on April 2nd.
>Using suffering of 14 year old girls to power Inter-Galactic Space Battle-Cruiser #2362143232
>Doing nothing wrong.
You guys don't actually believe QB was saving up the harvested energy to make the universe a better place right?
are you sure you want to
I watched the 720p homusubs rip btw
First movie is basically a short version of the series right?
So is there anything new in the movies or can i just go straight to Rebellion when the BD comes out?
The first two are the exact same as the series with some content cut out and a new ost. Skip.
They said it's the same rip in the comments.
Nope the first 2 movies are the same length as the tv series, 4 hours
She's a fucking therapist?
Is this scene suppose to be shocking or something? I watched the first two episodes and it was quite clear the show had a pretty dark tone from the outset.
holy shit that was fantastic
Does this have subs?
Or should I wait for Aniplex USA?
or you become a narcist and start identifying with her.
Is that really so bad?
I identified with Homu since episode 1.
Yes. It is bad and you should feel bad.
I don't feel bad at all.
If Mami was my therapist things would be different around here...
>Not wanting to save Homura and just make her happy
Do you even waifu?
Sounds like the term a coward would use, someone who doesn't believe in saving Madoka.
Everyone loves mami
There's a difference between salvation and rape you know.
Episode 2 and episode 1v2 should be out soon. He made a thread yesterday.
Homura is not narcissistic. Though it would be funny if in the next installment she takes a 180 and starts obsessing over herself instead of Madoka.
Exactly what someone who didn't believe in saving Madoka would say.