I don't get it /a/
For the longest time I have been trying to figure it out, but no matter how I wrap my head around it, it still doesn't make sense.
Why is it that whenever there is a perfectly good imouto that cares about her onii more than anyone else he almost invariably chooses worst girl over her.
Yes there are exceptions, Oreimo comes to mind, but even then he choose worst girl first and than gave her up, when he never should have taken his eyes off the real prize.
Is this what normalfags who don't have imoutos actually think? That somehow other girls are better than your perfect little sister?
go away alabama
Yes. Normal people are too caught up in their own twisted morality to see that love is what really matters, and that no one will ever love you like your little sister.
Shouldn't that be Rhode Island?
Imoutos are shit.
Karen breaks that because she's more of a nee-san,
Because it's low hanging fruit in terms of relationships
Enjoy your retards children
Yes because over coming the most prejudice out of any type of relationship is easy.
Shit even race traitors are excepted now days.
Enjoy recycling lies your have been told that bothering to think for yourself.
Woman over 30 are more likely to have birth defects than first generation incest.
there's no morality, if you have to see your sister every single day until she's 20 then you simply won't be sexually attracted to her. it's a fact. that's how it works.
>Yes there are exceptions, Oreimo comes to mind
But I have an imouto, and I have lived with ehr for the entirety of her 17 years and am madly in love with her.
So it isn't a fact, and you are just using your bullshit example as a universal truth because you are a faggot.
Bait thread, everyone bored feel free to reply
Oriemo was open end btw, the brother and sister figured out that their life would be shit if things kept going on. Hey, maybe that's something normalfags also agree on.
You are the exception that makes the rule, anon.
>and you are just using your bullshit example
It's no example. You can go and research it yourself. You, on the other hand, are posting your stupid anecdotes on the Internet, as if people couldn't lie on it.
>chose worse girl first
He never chose Manami, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
But it wasn't open end. Did you not read the LN? They ended up in a relationship and had sex. The anime is a failure of an adaptation because the production committee thrust their own sense of right and wrong into it and screwed up the greatest love story ever told.
Pic unrelated right?
Karen's great and all but let's get real for a moment. Shinobu is best girl and Kaiki is an even better OTP for Karen than Bararagi.
That's some doujin you've read anon, sorry.
Discrimination pure and simple.
There is not one legitmet reason why first generation incest between siblings should be illegal or carry the social stigma that it does, but because people carry the pejudices that they have been taught with them their entire lives they blindly parrot what they have been told.
These arbitrary rules have created a world wide social climate that takes something as pure and natural as an older brothers love for his younger sister and convinces them while they are still children and too young to think for themselves that what they are feeling is wrong and they are evil to think of it. The psychological damage should not be underestimated. These children grow distant and in some cases to hate each other because everyone around them is telling them they are evil for what their hearts are telling them.
It's 2014 faggots can marry, and race traitors can fuck animals, yet true equality, the kind that strengthens and preserves the white race, is shunned and punished.
That's actually what happened. The anime staff fucked up the ending and an interview proved there was disagreements between the author and director ie. the kiss was supposed to be on the lips to better convey that their relationship wasn't over.
You don't know what you're talking about, sorry.
To be honest i consider the love between sibling to be the purest form of love. There is no one that will ever know your heart more deeply than your imouto, nor care for you as much.
Because there are some stuff accepted in society that is worse it doesn't mean we should just discard reality, that's a fallacy. The probabilty to get retarded children for incest is big and that's a reality scientifically proven, faggot.
>The probabilty to get retarded children for incest is big
It really isn't.
>perfectly good imouto that cares about her onii more than anyone else
>perfectly good imouto
The probability for first generation sibling incest to produce birth defects is lower than that of women over thirty having children. Are you suggesting we pass laws outlawing women over thirty from gaving children? Because if you aren't it seems to me you are just letting your own morality govern other peoples lives.
The probably of defects due to incest is smaller than the probability of defects due to the mother being over the age of 25 or so.
I guess we should just make it illegal for all older women to have children too.
While we are at it let's outlaw black people reproducing since they will pass sickle cell onto their children.
Even better let's sterilize everyone with myopia since their children would be more likely to inherate it.
The most retarded thing about the incest/birth defects argument is that it's purely subjective, and dependent on the DNA of the siblings. Incest does not magically cause the number of recessive genes to multiply, there is no scientific nor logical reason why incest, even within multiple generations, would be more dangerous than procreating than someone who may potentially share recessive genes. Cheetahs are a good example of this, being extremely genetically similar, yet you don't see them producing large numbers of deformed cubs like the moral party would claim multiple generations of incest would.
The more genetic close two people are, the bigger the chances are. Maybe two first generation siblings having sex have low chances, but what do we do with their children if they also want to have sex? And the children of their childen? The more we let that happen the more chances you get to have potato children, just like noble families in medieval eras.
And no, I'm not talking about law, morality or anything like that, just common sense. I don't fucking care if laws let something happen or not, the same way there are pregnant woman smoking and doing some other shit that is even lethal for the children but laws can do shit about it. But using what is allowed to justify something is NOT a reasoning, is bullshit. It is a fact there are bigger chances to get retarded children due to incest, saying the contrary is denial. Now, what you do with your live is up to you, if you wanna fuck your sister it's ok for me, but don't come crying if your son want to fuck her sister too and then your grandchild comes potato.
What if their genes are such that their children would be genetically superior super babies? Would you really deny the world of such beings?
your just mad that your imouto denied you
Why would you settle for your imouto when there are several other non relative girls wanting your dick? only an idiot would chose their sister and I'm looking at you incestfags.
But it's the only argument that moral flags have so they keep falling back on it to explain why their prejudice is justified. Even when presented with statistics, even when the science of genetics is explained to them, even when logic and reason are simplified so that their ignorant diseased minds can understand it they still ignore all reason and keep parroting MUH BIRTH DEFECTS rather than actually think for themselves.
I honestly can't understand it. Why is other peoples sexual relationships so important that they will literally flip their shit over it. Normally I would blame religion, but the bible is so filled with incest it isn't even funny.
Because your imouto will always live you. When other girls get tired of their game and decide to leave with all your shit your imouto won't
Imouto are 2.5
If I had impregnated my imouto she would be alive today.
People aren't taught to think for themselves, they're taught to think what they're told. This is something easily observable in everything from school systems to typical parenting techniques.
If science comes tomorrow and show everyone that fucking your children during 5 generation would let humanity to a new era of super intelligent people then I would fuck my sister if I want. But until then the reality and facts we have in our hands says completly the opposite, so making something like that would take some risks, and because there are risks we don't know, the most intelligent route to follow is to do not take those risk until we found out everything.
Just because "hey, we don't know everything about genetics so maybe there are some chances of getting a superman son if you fuck your sister" is not an argument. Because I don't know what those chances are, but I know that incest is usually more dangerous that fucking someone else, therefore I decide to not fuck my sister.
>Just because "hey, we don't know everything about genetics so maybe there are some chances of getting a superman son if you fuck your sister" is not an argument.
It's as much a non-argument as "What if their kids fuck, and their kids fuck?" dumbass. That was the point.
>But until then the reality and facts we have in our hands says completly the opposite
This is incredibly ironic coming from someone who so obviously does not know a single thing about genetics, or even basic biology.
>but I know that incest is usually more dangerous that fucking someone else
You don't "know" a goddamn thing. All you know is what society told you to think.
>if your son want to fuck her sister
Your son is a trap/reverse trap?
>all these people trying to defend incest
any kind of breeding that reduces the genetic diversity of a population hurts the population.
> I would fuck my sister if I want
What if she doesn't want?
You know there's such a thing as outbreeding depression right?
And the zionists appear.
Keep trying to foist that multicultural bullshit chaim. It seems to be working.
What's that drivel? Some fanfic? Not gonna read it, that's for sure.
Just like you didn't read the LNs, right?
That's a summary of what's going on in the subtext for those who haven't read the LNs to see it or those who missed it entirely.
Oh, so like reading someone's opinion on what was going on rather than the actual source? Yeah, have fun with that.
Right, because you won't read the source, so your opinion is completely uninformed.
Yet you still think you can shoot down a collection of several people's opinions brought forth from probably weeks of discussion. You must think very highly about yourself.
Coming from someone with a sweet little 15yo imouto, there's a great deal of love that can be shared without entering any kind of sexual play unless you're stuck in puberty still wanting to shove your dick into anything that moves.
Having a pure imouto that you don't feel inclined to sex up is more rewarding than you could imagine. I get a warm hug every time she sees me, she can comfortably confide in me about things she's normally awkward about, and she'll even sit on my lap in front of a laptop to laugh at stupid youtube videos together without it ever getting weird. I love her as someone I've always known and will always accept, and it's mutual to boot. It's something I wouldn't give up for the world.
Incest happens, nothing will stop it completely anytime soon and other people's mutual interactions are their own. We can't prove if incest is bad outside of moralities. But we can agree that siblings have a relationship not found anywhere else. If you and your imouto think that that would be the best kind of relationship to base a sexual one off of, well, that's your business. But I know that if I start screwing mine, I'll gain a partner but lose a sister.
What this guy is saying actually makes sense, I don't know why you guys are so butthurt about it. I'm not saying it entirely against incest, but it's definitely not a good idea to do it, with a good reason, and science backs it up, and it's not just an arbitrary moral bullshit imposed on us for generations.
Honestly your beliefs comes off incredibly childish and shows immaturity. If you can't maintain a deep affectionate relationship with your imouto while simultaneously satisfying your mutual sexual needs it is because of your own hang ups.
And in my opinion you are threatening the relationship you have with your imouto currently by considering other girls as being worth you attention. Eventually if you get into a relationship with another girl your imouto is going to feel betrayed and full of self doubt as to why she wasn't good enough for you. If you really loved your imouto you would do anything you could to protect her smile, and that includes ignoring other girls. If you are too immature to enter into a sexual relationship with her the least you can do as an onii is ignore all other girls and give your entire heart to her in a purely platonic sense.
> I love her as
I read that as "I love her ass".
I don't really like my imouto in the same way you do but I definitely wouldn't fuck her, even though I had a wet dream once or twice with her in it.
Back in my day trolling meant more than "state obvious falsehood and call it fact."
/a/, why are you so obsessed with fucking your sister?
But it isn't good science. It is an opinion based on morals that has little to nothing to do with genetics. A standard has already been established that people who are at a much higher risk of producing birth defects are allowed to reproduce, but you keep ignoring that fact and repeating you opinion as if that lends weight to what you claim is a scientific argument against incest.
That is the entirety if your argument. You personally don't like the idea of incest and since other people agree with you you believe you are right. Fifty years ago people like you said that race mixing was wrong because other people agreed with you. People like you kept saying that it would produce weak genetically unfit children, despite what science had to say. People like you kept arguing as opinion slowly shifted, and is it became more and more prevelant the data and evidence kept stacking against morals and towards truth untill public opinion shifted.
That shift never would have happened if people weren't brave enough to stand against public opinion and question why what was a given was wrong. If we keep blindly accepting traditional values without trying to understand the truth we will be stuck in the dark ages still believing the sun circles the earth.
I don't have an imouto anymore, but if all that is standing between people that truly live each other is hate and ignorance than I am going to stand on the side of love and truth and try and convince as many people as possible to try and think instead of react.
Bet that incestfags doesn't even have imoutos.
I have one and thinking of her sexually makes me puke.
Because she is the most beautiful, kind, gentle, and loving person in the world and even though nothing can ever happen between us because she believes the incest lies like everyone else that doesn't mean I can't do everything in my power to try and spread the truth and enlighten other so that in the future it is socially acceptable and others can be spared the heart break I am going through.
You seem to forget that Arararararararagi's little sister is a horrible monster that is actually just impersonating a young girl. The beast needs to be destroyed before it can take the life of another innocent child.
Because anime influence. We have, what? A fourth fuck-your-sister anime since the start of last year?
Desiring to fuck your sister is a pretty common fantasy. It's just really obvious here because it's also a common anime trope.
>Is this what normalfags who don't have imoutos actually think?
No, this is what normalfags who have imoutos actually think.
>Because anime influence
Weebs are taking it to a new level.
That his littler little sister, his bigger little sister is normal.
Fakes can be as good as the real thing anyway
I have an imouto, am normal and this isn't what I think.
Well, around Eva everyone was mopey and suicidal. Anime influence.
>The probabilty to get retarded children for incest is big
It's close to zero when you use a condom.
That's because you are a normalfag. I'd fug my imouto if she was down for it.
No, you are not.
If she lives with you and sees your true self with all the awful things you try to hide from public and still doesn't hate you, might aswell stick your dick in, since you probably won't find anyone better.
Probably because your imouto is the only female you'll ever get close to beside your mother.
Because loving someone who is pretty, fun, interesting and I can talk with is not normal?
Why would I want to get close with most 3DPDs anyway? They're love can't compare to imouto love.
Sure, it's completely healthy to love your sister, but it is not considered normal to lust over family members.
>using a condom
You are a slave of the feminists. She's just using you as a living dildo because she's too lazy to move her arm.
btw it's like a 3-5% chance of defects for full sibling incest aka identical dna. It's around 6%+ for women over 30.
Just throwing that out there
I'm not saying that an incestual relationship can't be deeply affectionate by any means, it's simply going to be a qualitatively different affection that just isn't suitable for every caring onii-imouto pair. She clearly sees me as her brother, no more and no less.
Protecting her smile is all I want to do, and making a move on her would be the quickest way to wipe it off her face.
>would be the quickest way to wipe it off her face
Until the ahegao. Then you could just protect that.
>and making a move on her would be the quickest way to wipe it off her face.
Having a tiny dick must be suffering.
Most girls out there don't shiver in anticipation for the day when their big brother finally crawls out of his room, unzips his pants and gives them the dick.
You must put your belief in the power of the D.
Your tool will never be mighty if your spirit is so easily broken.
Yeah, tell that to the cops.
>tfw my imouto sleeps in my bed every time she visits
>tfw i often wake up with her lying on top of me with her cheek pressed against my chest and her hands gripping my chest hair
>tfw throughout the 23 years i was her brother i never felt sexually attracted to her in any way
and i'm as straight as you can get. she's my sister, no matter how cute she is she'll always do nothing for my dick.
Well at least the moralfags finally stopped hiding behind pop science horseshit and admit it's just "muh feelings".
Reading that, she's doing something to my dick
i know i know, it sounds incredibly erotic but at least in my case it's not an arousing experience. it's pleasant, but it's more like d'aww than MUH COCK.
If that happened to me, I probably wouldn't be able to stop thinking about all the dicks that have been inside her and would distance myself to get away from the unpure.
Why have you made me like this /a/.
Most men don't want to fuck their sisters.
There is a biological reason for it. You literally cannot find them sexual attractive no matter how objectively hot they are.
I can say with undue certainty that I would pork my sis
unpure or not doesn't matter if you love your sister.
That's false. You can change your sexual preferences. I used to find incest disgusting and after a dozen faps, I don't.
Evolutionary reason doesn't mean shit. The brain is so malleable, you can make yourself attracted to women who you wouldn't think to be sexually attractive.
>Is this what normalfags who don't have imoutos actually think? That somehow other girls are better than your perfect little sister?
Funny, because you're probably the faggot with only child syndrome that doesn't have an imouto. Newsflash: I have an imouto and I despise little sister incest. Notice that I said "little sister incest" as I am quite an incestfag for almost everything (dad x daughter, mother x son, little brother x older sister, aunt x nephew, uncle x niece, cousin x cousin, etc.). You may ask, "why do you hate little sister incest so much?" see >>100120183
>in charge of scientific facts
Newsflash: the first generation children may not have birth defects, but if the incest continues on with each generation then there is a HUGE probability of birth defects appearing in future generations. And just like with faggots, kids think "hey, if mommy and daddy are brothers and sisters (hey, if daddy and daddy are men married to each other in the case of children adopted by faggots), then why don't I marry and have children my sister"?
Reminder that the majority of /pol/ is opposed to incest so stop using the "K-kike!" excuse.
>"B-but you said you like incest!"
You see, unlike you faggots, I know how to separate fantasies from reality so I don't come off as an obnoxious sperglord obsessed with every imouto character in animu/mango/VNs/etc. now matter how shitty the actual imouto character is; the only reason why you like the imouto character is because she's an imouto. This is why shit like Oreimo is so successful. Remove Kirino and the show becomes irrelevant.
I don't mind if you enjoy some stuff. I enjoy some stuff too, and that's okay. BUT TO FORCE YOUR SHITTY FETISH DOWN MY FUCKING THROAT? TO MAKE EVERY SINGLE JAPANESE MEDIUM THAT HAS AN IMOUTO CONTAIN AN INCEST TWIST, JUST SO IT CAN CATER TO YOU?
Jesus christ just fuck off already and stop ruining animu.
*with my sister
That is unacceptable. We are supposed to be the purest of the pure. We are not to consort with the unredeemable.
does it really matter? she's still the same sister i've always had.