Just reinstalled windows, and I'm wondering which is better for regular quality anime and general video viewing.
MPC + madVR + XySubfilter.
Tried both, CCCP>KCP
Use KCP only if you have a so shit of a toaster.
MPC-HC has LAV filters embedded now, you don't need codec packs anymore, just install madVR and XYSubfilter like >>100111730 said
Either is fine, KCP is slightly better because it includes MadVR.
>Just reinstalled windows
There's your first mistake.
What am I supposed to never reinstall it? It got slow and buggy.
Can't be bothered, I just want a small pack that works.
>Can't be bothered
Then why don't you use VLC like the rest of IT JUST WERKS idiots.
Get VLC then you pleb.
Then don't watch videos on your computer. Or get VLC faget
You should install an operating system that respects your freedom, such as GNU/Linux.
KCP for the best quality in just a few clics.
Cause VLC doesn't werk.
Fuck off, /g/.
VLC works, faggot.
What the fuck am I going to do with it? Watch anime all day long and get paid?
Not OP, but what is the real difference between manually setting up the components vs using a codec?
Does manually tweaking it make any real difference, or are we talking FLAC vs WAV?
Lags, artifacts, huge resource hog.
>not knowing about opensource alternatives
>not knowing dual boot exists.
Okay, you have no idea what you're talking about.
>What the fuck am I going to do with it? Watch anime all day long and get paid?
You got the first part right
MPC-HC + XySubFilter + madVR.
Sounds like your computer is shit.
Might as well just went Windows in the first place.
Not really, Windows is a pain for a lot of things. Linux is a pain for a lot of things. OS X is a pain in general. BSD belongs on my server. Multiboot/VMs is the way to go.
So I should learn a set of entirely different software just cause you say so, instead of taking 1 hour to reinstall every 6 months or so?
Interface lags, its unresponsive, seeking as well as opening files and shit, whats that if not lag.
>installing an os to watch videos in
If your computer is so shitty no amount of codec packs is gonna help.
That's pretty much what KCP is, MPC+madVR+XyS
Whats the point of manually doing it.
VLC has its downsides, but I have only seen it lag on 2004 Semprons and the like.
Or I can just install MPC and have no problems whatsoever.
Keeping components up to date instead of waiting for the pack devs to get off their asses and update their shit.
>Installing an OS
Look at this nerd
Like I'm going to update any of this shit.
All this is going to be the same until I reinstall windows again, I would never reinstall MPC if it worked in portable mode.
Kawaii Codec Pack
>Being this retarded
Create a Windows image with your software already installed. When reformatting it can save you a good deal of time.
>it should just werk
you're the guy VLC was made for then
Would be cool if it actually did.
Every single piece of software I have save for a video player works fine after I reinstall.
Op, why ask this on /a/?
Right, I am going to ask about anime codec packs one of which is has the word "Kawaii" in it on /g/, that's gonna end well.
>knowing about video players/codes
If you don't give a shit about quality and are too stupid to keep your shit updated just install MPC-HC
/g/ loves anime.
Holy shit really? Well that's interesting.
And xySubfilter, because typesetting will make your shit computer drop frames like there is no tomorrow with MPC's internal sub filter
It has every single fucking time I've seen some idiot do it.
The thread goes something like this:
>go with KCP
>fuck you weaboo faggots, go with CCCP
And then they argue about it for a while.
In the end, I'd say you should just go with KCP.
They have desktop threads which are pretty much all about posting your new anime vector with a minimalist WM.
The board's being infected by /v/ recently, though, so there are people who hate anime browsing it.
Kawaii codec pack installs everything you need
Alright then, gonna grab the new version of KCP.
Thanks to whoever wasn't a dick.
If his toaster "lags" with VLC id doubt it will be able to handle madVR
Worked alright on higher quality profiles in KCP by the way.
People are still using codec packs? What is this, 2001?
No, it's 2014.
No, it's Sunday noon.
Sup, fellow /EST/bro?
I hope not, no good anime would exist yet
Because the answer will be
>hurr use gnu/Linux
/g/ wasn't helpful even once if the problem is Windows related.
It has been for me.
It is GNU/Linux
GNU is an acronym for GNU's Not Unix!
However FSF has lost their way and Debian GNU/Linux is real freedom.
How about you technologically inept faggots stay out of /g/?
/a/ isn't for recommendations. /g/ isn't tech support
That's because windows is the problem. If you saw someone asking for the best VLC settings you would tell them to get a better player right?
call me when you can work\play games on linux.
CCCP is the best set-up.
At least that's what Daiz says.
No, I wouldn't enter the thread.
And why do posts after someone mentions GNU/Linux start suggesting to dualboot or use WINE? If it was any better than Windows, you wouldn't suggest people to go back to Windows every time they have to work or play games.
Windows is a clusterfuck of problems, but at least it gets the job done unlike your precious GNU/Linux.
I don't know your phone number, if I did I would be calling you right now.
I do, although maybe you don't.
I don't game so I wouldn't know.
>And why do posts after someone mentions GNU/Linux start suggesting to dualboot or use WINE? If it was any better than Windows, you wouldn't suggest people to go back to Windows every time they have to work or play games.
Maybe you should stop being retarded and install gentoo.
You can do this pretty easily.
In fact, most would say it's easier on GNU/Linux.
You can do this, there definitely aren't as many games as on Windows. There are ports for almost every Valve game, and various others work on GNU/Linux. But yes, Windows has more games.
The problem is too many people use windows, and thus more software is built for it.
>all of /g/
Even fucking iOS is more useful than Debian, Gentoo and the other shit.
I can play the ones I want to play for the most part
Does anyone use Universal Media Server to stream to a PS3?
If so, how do you get ordered chapters to work? I've installed the latest version of CCCP on my computer and the latest version of UMS, and it just skips the opening when I watch a file.
>In fact, most would say it's easier on GNU/Linux.
none of the software i use is on linux, what now?
Have you tried any of those distros?
I found Debian much more useful than Windows and OSX.
>Even fucking iOS is more useful than Debian
>What are servers?
>having credible opinions
>not using Linux
>not using mpv
Sure is anime and manga in here.
Don't you faggots have a desktop to rice?
What software do you use?
That is actually pretty impressive.
Using only closed source software is far harder than using only FOSS. Most everything has some open source components.
I see you are one of them.
>not using SMplayer
mpv is objectively better
inb4 he suggests GIMP
What software are you using to post now? Internet Explorer?
>using server OS
>using shitty player
You don't know what SMplayer is.
What the fuck is Internet Explorer?
GIMP works pretty well, I definitely prefer it to Photoshop. If nothing else, you can run it in a VM or Wine, but it would probably be better for you to just stick with wangblows if you really need it.
Not sure about this, I'm pretty sure there's a FOSS program that does what it does, though.
What's wrong with GIMP?
mplayer with QT
I do. It’s not compatible with the improved forks of MPlayer and it’s a shitty GUI.
mpv is a better player than vanilla MPlayer.
Is xySubfilter as fast as xyvsfilter? I want to use it on my laptop but it can't handle mpc internal without stuttering, vsfilter works great, will I be able to use xysubfilter?
The CG to that game is brilliant.
Which elf is your favourite?
Well first, GIMP does not have the functionality of Photoshop. No software besides Photoshop has the raster graphics editing capabilities that Photoshop has.
And why would I switch OS, and have to learn new software from scratch, if the only inconvenience is taking 1-2 hours every 4-6 months to automatically reinstall windows?
>What's wrong with GIMP?
What's wrong with VLC?
XySubFilter has the same performance as xy-vsfilter +- what's needed to display at your desktop resolution.
It's probably a bit slower, but it's much faster than internal renderer. There's no reason not to try it out.
Okay, I'm gonna check it out then.
>What's wrong with GIMP?
It's not _just_ 1-2 hours, you still have to install all the software you previously used, which is more difficult than on GNU/Linux since it lacks a package manager, and is also less safe (you have to uncheck this box if you don't want spyware!)
But you can keep using Windows if you really want to, I don't give a shit. I'm just offering alternatives, if you're a lazy fuck, then you can stay with your proprietary software.
Scribus. It's on par with InDesign and you don't have to deal with shitty licensing (assuming you're actually a professional and pay for these things)
I use GIMP almost exclusively these days. There's a learning curve, but it has almost all of the tools Photoshop has. The only downside is it's easier to create actions in Photoshop and Photoshop has better 3rd party plugin support (if you actually use those). GIMP is also clunkier in some ways, but surprisingly, Photoshop is clunkier in other ways. Overall, Photoshop is still better, but GIMP is a good enough alternative for most people.
Lightworks is on Linux now. I can't comment on it too much because I haven't actually used it, though. It's probably worth checking out.
You mean, no AAA games. Like 80% (a number I pulled directly out of my ass) of new indie titles are cross-platform these days. And lots of AAA titles run in wine (or PlayOnLinux if you're lazy). It's still highly dependent upon your video card though, since some Radeon cards run like shit (like my 7870) with both the proprietary and open source drivers. From what I've heard, the Nvidia drivers are much better.
Also, mpv kicks fucking ass and I actually prefer it to MPC-HC. Libass very rarely has issues these days, and mpv has all the fancy scalers that madVR gives you. It doesn't have Jinc, but you can't tell the difference (seriously, there's no discernible difference when overlaid) between 8-tap Jinc and spline36.
All of my software except MPC works fine after reinstall, I keep it all configured and safe on a separate partition.
KCP looks the best for me, probably because of madVR.
Why in the fuck would you ever have to reinstall Windows?
I've been using the same install of Windows 7 since 2009 and it works just as well as when I installed it.
>you still have to install all the software you previously used
Just install software on a different parition for your system and keep all your important files away from C:/. Just reinstall Windows and pretty much everything besides Adobe software will run without any problems.
For Adob software it will just install the needed files on C:/ and leave the files from the other drive alone.
Lightworks is dogshit, compared to vegas sadly.
Let me just compliment you on your good taste if you like both Linux and Ranma.
Fucked around a lot with it, tested shit.
I don't even trust Windows anymore. Fucking Windows 8.1 tries its damndest to get you to link your offline profile to an online Microsoft account, such that they hide the option to not do that during install. It's ridiculous. At least with Linux I know they're not hashing my images directory in the background and sending the hashtable to the NSA for analysis.
If that's the case, trolling aside, I think you'd enjoy Linux.
It's a little something called ease of use, a concept totally foreign to a lot of people who use Linux. Having used both, I find photoshop a lot easier to use than gimp. I pull up photoshop, I plug in my tablet, I'm good to go. Whereas on Linux I've got to install drivers, restart, and then I'm met with a bare and unhelpful menu that isn't even fun to scribble with.
I tried Windows 8 out and didn't even realize there was a way to not do thta.
>fucked around with it
>doesn't have backups
You really don't know how to computer do you?
Well I did use xubuntu and mint for some time, but I stopped cause I was dual booting into windows more than I was in linux, so its pointless.
>I've got to install drivers
Funny, it's the opposite for me. I had to spend like an hour finding ethernet drivers for my Windows computer at a local library, then had to find drivers for my tablet, then find drivers for my GPU (though this isn't extremely related to photoshop/gimp). On GNU/Linux, it just werked.
Backups of what, windows? Doubt it's easier than popping in a usb drive and pressing install.
That's because, like I said, they buried it. During the install it'll ask you to make an account, and have some small text below it ("I already have an account" or something, I forget). If you click that, then it'll give you an option to not link your account.
Also, you don't actually have to have an account. They just hid the option because they don't want people to know that you don't need to make one. Either way, I don't trust an operating system that tries to force me to do shit like that.
What's wrong with default MPC-HC?
I tried CCCP once but the subs were blurry as fuck, so I went back to default, what am I missing?
how do I get mpv to use spline36 scalars?
Open ~/.mpv/config in a text editor and add the line
If you have an Nvidia card (and want to use VDPAU) then I think it has some sort of builtin scaler that is slightly different. Read the docs in that case, since I don't use VDPAU and have no idea.
Is there a difference between mpv and mpc+madvr+xysubfilter?
I'm planning to switch to linux, you see.
Isn't cscale pointless?
Linux is gay.
The MPC setup is better.
You'll notice that mpv is far lighter and resources.
The quality is about the same.
I guess Linux is also homosexual, as >>100115761 pointed out, so if you like cocks you should love it.
Probably, but I don't see any slowdown from it, so I just leave it because why not. Worst case, things might possibly look better.
why would cscale be pointless?
It's actually probably more important because of how small chroma frames always are
Homosexuality is best sexuality.
>not being Lolisexual
Well in the manual it says:
"As lscale, but for chroma (2x slower with little visible effect). Note that with some scaling filters, upscaling is always done in RGB. If chroma is not subsampled, this option is ignored, and the luma scaler is used instead. Setting this option is often useless."
But I guess it won't hurt.
Is there a reason why i need all of these things
why is the default windows player not good enough for you guys
>liking notits nohips noass cause your dick is too small for an adult sized vagina
MPC-HC default is fine and way better.
>not being homololisexual
>implying my lolis don't have nice ass and enough tits
Yoshino is miracle of life.
Since there is no .ass specification and vsfilter was the first implementation, it's the reference. If you want subtitles to always display correctly, there's no way past it.
thanks. i just want to learn bash commands but if the player is somehow just the same then i don't mind.
Captcha: dialric kamina
mpv or SMPlayer? I've been using SMP only because it was stupid simple to install.
Because people that enjoy a medium generally like to see it in the best quality possible. It's like asking an audiophile why they don't just listen to their music on the radio. Yeah, it might be acceptable, but if you really want to enjoy it there are better methods.
>(2x slower with little visible effect)
probably refering to the fact that there are two chroma channels
>Note that with some scaling filters, upscaling is always done in RGB. If chroma is not subsampled, this option is ignored, and the luma scaler is used instead.
so it renders to RGB and then scales?
that's probably a bad thing
As a camp councillor I can confirm that lolis do indeed have asses.
Kirino level assery from some campers
VLC worked like a charm on my old Win7 installation, but when I reinstalled everything, it started to shake and wobble for no reason at all. No setting fixed it.
Now I'm using MPC + CCCP and cannot complain.
>Not using mplayer2
Do you even stability and signed packages?
try playing 10 bit .mkv anime on WMP.
I wonder if I fucked up somewhere that made my subs all blurry or what.
>so it renders to RGB and then scales?
On scaling filters though, not all of them. I dunno which ones do that.
Enjoy using unmaintained software.
mpv is objectively better, it's just slightly more involved to install. If by some chance you use Fedora, there's a binary in rpmfusion, so you just need to enable that repo and then do "sudo yum install mpv"
enjoy your outdated libass and bloat. I'm sure you'll play 20 year old crusty video files some day
check your filters for xysubfilter
check both xysubfilter and mpc's built in subtitle options to make sure that you're rendering to desktop resolution
uninstall everything. and when i mean everything, delete also the registry files.
I uninstalled my current stuff and installed these three. The playback is a lot smoother than with CCCP, but subtitles aren't displaying. I unchecked "Autoload subtitles" in MPC-HC, but xySubfilter isn't displaying.
CCCP uses xy-vsfilter which renders at video resolution while MPC's internal renderer renders at desktop resolution. Switch xy-vsfilter to XySubFilter if you want desktop resolution (MPC's internal renderer is slower and buggier).
mpv is in a lot of repos now. Arch, Gentoo even Debian has it. Not sure about Ubuntu though.
Considering you fetch mpv straight from github and compile it yourself, that's probably better than a signed package.
I've never had mpv crash, so I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If you're referring to API stability, then I don't give a fuck, because my config hasn't changed in the half a year that I've had it set up and I don't use frontends. Mplayer seriously needed an API overhaul anyway.
I like my subs crisp.
I pretty much expect Arch and Gentoo to have everything in their repos, since both of them are highly community maintained. Even if there isn't something in the base Gentoo overlay, then someone has probably made something for you to add with layman. Debian having it is surprising though.
do mpv has a number of scaling algorithms?
an anon said that it was lighter, does that mean a low end video card can play a video in highest quality?
>Support for playing URLs of popular streaming sites
Is it so hard to do mplayer $(youtube-dl -g -f22 something)?
What do these things improve? Why is mpc default not enough?
It's not in Debian Wheezy's repos, but to be fair, not much is.
Blur isn't being scaled so far so typesets are a bit off at desktop resolution but otherwise it's nice, yeah. I don't see any difference when watching on my TV, though.
>do mpv has a number of scaling algorithms?
I'll let you judge that:
[user@localhost mpv-build]$ mpv --vo=opengl-hq:lscale=help
>an anon said that it was lighter, does that mean a low end video card can play a video in highest quality?
Yep. Back when my motherboard died I spun up a Pentium II and watched 480p h.264 with mplayer, which is something MPC-HC would never dream of being able to do.
>do mpv has a number of scaling algorithms?
It has a fuckton actually. I forget how to pull up the list for it though.
>Support for playing URLs of popular streaming sites
>using Debian stable for desktop
I hope nobody does this.
I did when I first started using GNU/Linux.
It took me about a week to realize my mistake.
so which is better, spline36, sinc6, lanczos4, or some other one?
Not him, but it wasn't stable when i installed, and it's still more updated than ubuntu LTS
There's nothing wrong with it as long as you know what you're doing and know your software requirements. Personally, it would suffice for me, but I'd rather stay on a RHEL based distro in order to keep muh enterprise skills sharp.
Debian does make for a stable desktop, however for most situations I would not recommend it.
I wish somebody could explain to me what the difference between all those scalers are. What the hell does blackman do?
Anyways, I use spline36 myself.
is this same with this?
mpv has no smooth motion, and its lanczos/spline are worse than madVR's thanks to no anti-ringing.
In short, it's shit.
>mpv has no smooth motion
>using subpar hardware
>lanczos/spline are worse than madVR's thanks to no anti-ringing
I've never noticed a difference myself. Jinc is the only real thing mpv is missing at this point.
Different sharpness/ringing/aliasing ratios. Just try them out. Blackman is a modified lanczos with less ringing.
Spline36 is a good pick.
The more common ones (all that I listed) can be compared if you search it up.
Dunno about blackman
if you mean the tiers, yes.
>mpv has no smooth motion
proprietary software enhancement
>and its lanczos/spline are worse than madVR's thanks to no anti-ringing.
>In short, it's shit.
in short madshi is shit
spline36 > blackman4 > lanczos4 > *
Spline36 is the slowest of them and those three are fairly difficult to distinguish between each other. That's pretty much all you need to know. All the scalers have different situations where they might be useful, but you'll probably never encounter them. If you're still curious about a more indepth explanation, see the first StackOverflow response here:
When watching 1080p on 1920x1080 screen this stuff doesn't matter right? And I don't care that much about TV versions/
What about tweaking vdpau?
Linux has no game.
Correct. You're not scaling anything at that point. Setting a correct vo will still matter though, of which the two proper choices for mpv are either opengl-hq or vdpau (If you have an Nvidia video card)
What do you achieve with all of this?
Do things look sharper or better colored or smoother or what?
chroma channels are generally 1/4 the size of luma channel (which is full resolution) so you need to upscale the chroma channel using whatever algorithm you like
>Correct. You're not scaling anything at that point.
but that's wrong
Correct video outputs ensure you have the right colors and better filters result in better upscaling.
>but that's wrong
Yeah, you're right. I forgot about the chroma scaling.
Is that why some stuff looks kinda blurry on my 1440x900 screen?
What would you say Yoshino is?
mpc-hc with madvr and xysubfilter, reclock optional be sure to enable smooth motion it really improves a lot with panning
Possibly. 1440x900 is also 16:10, and shit could look messed up if your video card is automatically stretching the image to fit, which some do by default. If you're not seeing black borders on fullscreen anime then it's stretching it and fucking up the aspect ration, which will look like shit.
>blurry on my 1440x900 screen?
Well, I doubt that screen looks good to begin with.
aspect ratio, even.
Nah it looks fine and it does display the video on fullscreen at 16:9, I was talking about the upscaling.
Then yeah, it might be an output driver issue. Either set up your shit correctly as this thread has recommended. If it still looks messed up, then your video card drivers might be postprocessing it (Which I'm pretty sure Catalyst does by default on Windows) so go into Catalyst Control Panel (or whatever the Nvidia equivalent is) and make sure there isn't anything enabled that effects video output.
>Ran VLC in Windows
>Ran KPC+MPC in Windows
>Ran Manually Configured MPC in Windows
>Ran Manually Configured MPV in #! & Arch Linux
>Ran Manually Configured SMPlayer in #! Linux
The hands down best experience in anime viewing right now is
Anyone who tells you different hasn't tried that combination.
Transmission-Qt is shit under Windows, and rtorrent is better regardless.
Everything I've tried is either laggy or doesn't load subs. I'm sure I'm just not doing it right, but I can't figure out what it is, so I'll just stick with CCCP.
Balmer pls go.