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Does anyone else miss Saki?
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>>100097045
Her old idol producer?
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>200 years of having to deal with Shoko being a shit

truly being Saki is suffering
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>>100097118
>while remembering that Haruto didn't want to tap that even if she was throwing herself on him
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I miss Iori, she always knew the answer to everything.
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>>100097045
Not really....
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>>100097247
nice taste
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I do ;_;
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>>100097190
But Haruto did tap that?
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>>100097247
This show officially ended at episode 12 of season 1. Nothing after that exists. It was mediocre but the girls were top-tier.

Shoko will forever be bestgirl.
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>>100097281
>S1, under alien influence
S2 when he needed to feed she almost undressed and he ignored her.
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>>100097191
>>100097191

Iori a QT
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>>100097484
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>>100097045
Why no doujins at all?
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>>100097947
VVV has doujins... mostly of the homo variety.
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>>100097045
>Does anybody miss used goods?
FTFY
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>>100098004
Who the fuck loves yaoishit?
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>no doujins of faceless soldier stripping Saki down and impaling her from behind
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>>100097281
tap != rape
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>>100098225
Rape is one way of tapping that.
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>>100098199
what a shitty shoop
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>>100097045
I do ;_;
I miss her smile, I miss her perfect body and I miss her personality. Give me her back, Sunrise!

>>100097392
It was good until episode 17.
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She got fuck all in the ending, Sunrise just forgot about her.
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>>100098579
Read her manga.
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>>100098632
Already doing, but not enough.
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I'd penetrate her from behind if you know what I mean
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>>100097045
Shota Saki was delicious.
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Saki is one character that surprised me a lot. I started off hating her at the beginning, and basically wanted her gone so that Shoko could win.
By the end, I absolutely loved her, and am still pissed that I didn't get to see more of her kicking ass in the future.
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>>100098804
Saki is one character that didn't surprise me at all. I started off loving her at the beginning, and basically wanted her to stay so that Shoko could lose.
By the end, I absolutely loved her, and am still pissed that I didn't get to see more of her kicking ass in the future.
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>>100098998
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>>100098165
Me.
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>>100098998
What are you implying, anon?
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>>100097045
If you're so fucking lonely without her, pick up a pen and make your own goddamn ending fucking neckbeard hikkikimori. Saki was invented by a mouthbreather just like you, so who better to finish her tail?
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Shoko is VVV's Ohgi

Haruto is VVV's Suzaku

L-elf is VVV's Lelouch

Saki is VVV's goddess
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I don't care about Saki but I miss Audrey.
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>>100099199
at least ohgi got to be with his love interest.
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Why are sakifags so reminiscent of kirinofags?
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>>100098199
Hmmmm dat body :3
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>>100099572
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>>100099602
Good job.

Reported
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>>100099602
Oh, come on, Shoko's a dumb bitch, but she's certainly not a slut.
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>>100097045
It's okay.
Her manga is not finished yet and there is always fanfiction.
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>>100099796
She stripped in order for people to listen to her though.
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>>100099924
>in order for people to listen to her
This is the main point here. It's not because she wanted someone's cock.
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>>100099965
That is because she usually does it.
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Not really. She wasn't very interesting.
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>>100100047
In a show where everybody was a fucking retard?
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>>100100010
You mean Shoko strips in order to convince people to listen to her? Which means that what she said in this pic was...
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>>100100143
>L-Elf
>fucking retard
nope
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>>100100193
>autistic love warrior

He was the worst.
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>>100100189
Yep, he turned her down because he wanted a complete service.
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>>100100193
Only because the creators loved him so much.
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>>100100284

They loved him so much they had to kill him.
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>>100100489
He did not die during the main plot.
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>>100099199
>Haruto is VVV's Suzaku
>L-elf is VVV's Lelouch
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>>100100193
He was the king of all retards in this tripefest
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>>100099602
>tfw I'm actually fapping to this right now...

Plis forgive me Saki chan.

>>100101037

Drilltits is VVV's Milly

Marie is VVV's Anya

Akira is VVV's c.c
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>>100102106
>>tfw I'm actually fapping to this right now...
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>Plis forgive me Saki chan.
Same here ;_;
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>>100102106
>>100102550
Pathetic. You really do fap to everything, Saki has such shit fans.
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>>100102638
But that is false.
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Reminder that Shoko saved christmassu
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>>100097105
Alice looks nice and kinda resembles Shoko. Hope she show up again.
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I miss pre-rape Saki.
And S1 Shoko.
And episode 12 Haruto.
And One Man Army L-Elf.

S2 did a great job making their main characters shit.
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>>100099199
Shoko can''t be Ohgi. She actually showed remorse for her actions.
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Choose one
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>>100106055
Nao.
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>>100106055
Bottom left.
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>>100106055

Disgusting.
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>>100099199

Saki is CC with a better ending. Saki has fellow immortal friends (and a mech). CC is still roaming the Earth alone.
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>>100106055
What am I looking at?
What am I choosing for?
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>>100106675
>alone

0/10
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>>100097045
Does anyone miss Akira?
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>>100097045
please no bakemonos. remove bakemonos
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>>100107114
I'm sure everyone is missed by at least one person. Except Jefferey and Thunder.
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>>100107480

And Iori
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>>100107480
>not missing Jeffrey
>the saviour of humanity
What?
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>>100106055
>Bottom Left
Is that Nao from Undertaker or proto-Saki?
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>>100107747
Actually, Shoko
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>>100107747
One of Shoko's early designs which was later used for Nao. I don't even remember seeing any early designs for Saki.
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Have you pre-ordered your manga yet? ;_;

>Tankobon of Valvrave the Reaction Faces
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4088800176/
>Volume 2 of the Hitler Boys
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/404866347X/

>>100107829
So, a couple of her early designs turned into other girls like Nao (bottom left) and Midori (bottom right), huh.
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>>100107622
I liked Iori. I don't like that she was just happily laughing with the others in the ending like nothing happened. But they skipped over even Shoko's reparations, so that can't be helped.
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>>100107631
This. Everybody misses space-Clinton.

>>100107829
>I don't even remember seeing any early designs for Saki.
She is more or less the same. She was among the normal students in the booklet.
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>>100107988
I am waiting for Saki manga to be available on CDJapan.
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>>100108093
Maybe the Saki manga won't end and has like two more chapters which is why it hasn't been listed yet. We do know that the last chapter of the Audrey manga will be on this month while the VVV manga has already ended.
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>>100107988
Those designs are in the Sakimori students section, not Shoko's.
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W-Who is he?
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>let the general thread die and bump the Saki thread instead

As expected of bakemono followers.
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>>100108648
Saki >> VVV

And remove non-bakemono lovers!
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>>100108747

But you bumped it with not Saki stuff.
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I miss Shokoshoko.
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bump
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>>100111366
For what reason?
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>>100112620
Love.
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>>100112815
Someone please kill them.
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>>100113021
Would you kill such a lovely mon- ehm creature?
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>>100108966
That traitor bitch deserved the worse.
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I miss moses.
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I miss Eru-Erufu. He was the real heroine of Valvrave. Shoko and Saki were just love interest fodder.
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Why do people like L-Elf?

He falls in love with someone he knew for less than 4 hours.

He's basically a manchild at heart.
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>>100113702

He's only 17, he is still a child.
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>>100108966
>I miss shit
Just go to the bathroom, sit, and wait a bit.
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>>100113702
>He's basically a manchild at heart.
That's the point. He's so solid and dependable, but so soft and innocent on the inside.
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>>100097392
Wrong, it ended at episode 7 of season 1. The 214 year timeskip set off a Molotov cocktail on the Valvrave plane. After that, the only remaining question was whether the passengers were going to burn to death or die on impact.
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>>100113606
I'm straight but I would have gay sex with L-Elf
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>>100113606

>lost his waifu and homodachi in a matter of days

He still has A-Drei at least, in the end A-Drei ended up with the best ending.
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>>100113271
>still calling Shoko the traitor

She did the only thing she could have done to protect the students. Haruto and the others are to blame for betraying her trust and their country.
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>>100113980

I really think the show would have been better without those flash forwards, took a lot of the suspense out of it.
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>>100114138
>The only thing she could have done
Selling Haruto and L Elf to the enemy and end up being betrayed.
Traitor and dumb bitch.
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If you ship any male couple that's not Haruto x L-Elf you need to fuck off permamently
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>>100114438
At that point Haruto had already proven himself and the other pilots to be enemies to their country. She may be dumb, but she wasn't the traitor here.
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>>100114731
Literally the worst pairing. Even Haruto x Shoko is better.
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>>100114815
Too bad it's a canon pairing.
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>>100114760
Sure, they proved that fighting the Dorssian army to the exhaustion only to protect JIOR.
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>>100114891
He also proved they were secretly sucking the brains out of unsuspecting victims. The only reason they were 'protecting' them was to keep their food source alive.
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>>100115101
And it is not like he goes into the rocket because they asked for help-
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>>100115101

Strange that none of the kids wound up missing or dead during those 2 months on the moon. This was mob mentality at its finest, none of them actually used their brains.
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I've been missing Saki since the end of S1. She spent most of S2 in the background or MIA. Fuck you, Sunrise.
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>>100115222
That's the problem. Nobody was using their brain. Not Shoko, not Iori, not Haruto, not Kibukawa, not Jewbro, not L-Elf (he has the excuse of his brain being broken though), no one. The only person who did anything that resembled thinking was Satomi and he conveniently got written out of the story so no one would be able to listen to him.
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>>100115508
>he has the excuse of his brain being broken though
AHAHAHAH
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>>100115508
>The only person who did anything that resembled thinking was Satomi

Also Yohei.

RIP ;_;
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>>100097045
Why would I when it's currently airing?
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>>100115778
Yohei literally used his brain.
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>>100115508

>he has the excuse of his brain being broken

More like he didn't give a fuck.
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How does one forget his waifu?
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>>100119462
There wasn't even any drama with Haruto not remembering Shoko as she's desperately crying and apologizing to him. They wasted so much potential with this memory loss bullshit.
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Damn, missed the general.

I want to touch A-drei's braid.
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I miss my OT3.
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>>100120972
Meh. I am glad we never got this triangle.
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>>100121188
Yeah, instead we got a shitty love triangle.
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>>100120972
S2 was not very kind to the idea of friendship.
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Will Kriemhild ever find love?
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>>100121368
No, H-Neun and Cain are dead.
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>>100121436
But she still has Audrey.
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>>100121499
Audrey is gay and has his eye on L-elf.
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>>100121560
L-Elf abandoned him to travel the galaxy with some retarded high schoolers. He needs to move on.
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>>100121499
>>100121560
Maybe she'll offer a deal to help him win over L-elf in exchange for the benefits of his royal sperm.
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>>100000000
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>>100121650
Well he was called a yanhomo for a reason.
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>>100121650
I doubt they had the ability and resources to go on galaxy adventures until much later. They would have to depend on Dorssia's assistance before they could actually get on their feet.
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>>100122077
They likely left within the year since it was the start of the galactic empire.
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>>100122205
It's not confirmed.
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>>100115222
Did you even watch the series? They thought they had gone to Earth to gather humans to eat.
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>>100122471
Marie coming back a brainless husk like the people in the Phantom probably didn't help calm anyone down either.
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>>100122359
Though in ep1 the narrator said the current year later went down in history as the beginning of the 3rd Galactic Empire. Although that's quite possibly just in hindsight; as in that was when the new nation was founded which eventually became known as the 3rd Galactic Empire.
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>>100122586
There was probably a lot of tension among the males too, owing to the fact that the village whore had been left behind on Earth, to be penetrated (as usual) by the enemy.
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How does the Empire work? Is the kid the emperor-to-be? Does the Founder (Shoko) work with the government? If so, what's the difference between her and the Emperor?
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>>100122869
L-elf was most likely the Founder, since the new nation was his and Haruto's idea. Would also explain why L-elf's evident descendant is the prince.
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>>100122869
I assume they found a way for L-Elf to become immortal and he's the eternal emperor. Making some random human their leader just because of bloodlines is a ridiculous idea since it runs the risk of someone eventually turning on the kamitsuki for being monsters or out of spite for their immortality and destroying everything they worked for.
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>>100123185
It's a monarchy which means that bloodlines have to be relevant.

>it runs the risk of someone eventually turning on the kamitsuki

You mean this guy?
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>>100123041
Except he isn't, I don't remember which episode, but Saki says that the founder lost a lot of classmates during the fight on the way to the moon. L-Elf doesn't have any classmates.
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Honestly though, wasn't there supposed to be a season 3?

The entire last half of S2 felt rushed as fuck. They never really tied up Shoko and Haruto's relationship in a good way.
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>>100123619
>wasn't there supposed to be a season 3?
No, the show was always supposed to be 2 cour.
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>>100120972

There really isn't an OT3. It's the Haruto on L-Elf half hour show

And even at the end, what mattered the most was that L-Elf was Haruto's friend. He got that final moment. Not Shoko. Not Saki.

But if there was to be an OT3, I'd say it should have been Haruto L-Elf Saki.

Shoko is well.. an outsider? It seem even the OST covers agree
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>>100122471

Why would they rescue a bunch of scientists, let them reunite with their children, and then kill all of them the next day? If they were using their brains they'd realize they never would have let them run around and interact with others if they planned to kill them all like that. They would have kept them locked up and never would have told anybody they brought them back with them in the first place.
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>>100123497
No, I mean like one asshole emperor down the line labeling the kamitsuki as evil and resulting in a repeat of episode 21. They'd need to be the ones in power to prevent something like that from happening.
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>>100123581

Didn't she say "nakama"?
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>>100123619

It wasn't about Shoko and Haruto's relationship. It was about L-Elf and Haruto's relationship

Shoko wasn't even the main heroine, originally.
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>>100123935
>Shoko wasn't even the main heroine, originally.

Post it enough times and it'll become true. I promise.
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>>100123581
>>100123926
Maybe.
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>>100123581
>classmates
"Comrades" was the word actually. Episode 12.

And if L-elf wasn't the founder, it would be Haruto (or the two of them were co-founders). As they said on the Moon, it wouldn't be another JIOR, they were going to create a new country of their own. This one wasn't Shoko's idea.
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>>100123837
>It seem even the OST covers agree
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>>100123185
>>100123870
Saki and Akira were personally teaching the prince, which they likely did with each descendant.
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>>100124048

Co-founders is probably right, in the end though Haruto helped to build the foundation but L-Elf and the others were the one that had to make it all work out.
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>>100123870
That's why the kamitsukis are involved in the education of the Prince.
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>>100123841
In the middle of a bulletstorm there's not much time to think. Besides even so, how what were they supposed to think? A bakemono-fest taht bites people for sustenance is a huge surprise, they wouldn't know what to think.
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>>100123926
>>100124047
Don't know... Even so, they weren't his nakama at the time.
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>>100124279
The Time-skip kamitsukis were in a 24/7 lesbian orgy, weren't they?
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>>100123926
Yes.
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>>100124048
I guess it depends on the subs, there are some who ascertain she said nakama, so it's rather vague. There's also the fact that Haruto didn't found shit, because he was dead.
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>>100124385
They took breaks occasionally in order to teach Mini-elf the importance of coexistence.
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>>100124360
It makes sense that people like Saki would call it two centuries later his nakama.
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>>100124467
>I guess it depends on the subs
I was specifically referring to the actual audio.
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>>100124385
Most likely. They need to harvest those runes somehow and it's better for everyone than attacking people.
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>>100124556
Nope, doesn't make much sense.
>>100124590
The actual audio is nakama, it can be translated as friend, comrade, etc.
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>>100124015

You weren't here when we translated the BD extras

Original heroine was Akira
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>>100124556
No, it doesn't. Saying "he lost many friends" makes no sense in regards to L-Elf considering he didn't care about any of them and even at the end only cared for Haruto.
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>>100123837
>But if there was to be an OT3, I'd say it should have been Haruto L-Elf Saki
I never saw this as an OT3 at all considering she barely interacted with L-Elf and just because she appeared to save them doesn't mean anything. It's just a big OT4 anyway since they are the four main characters.
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>>100124641
Hence why I said "comrade". She didn't say classmate.
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>>100124641

To Saki I'd say she'd consider L-Elf a comrade, so would everybody else that went on the Earth mission. At the end he considered them his comrades too.
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>>100124715
Akira was originally A heroine, not the main heroine.
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>>100124715
And you are taking it out of context to suit your delusions. Akira was said to originally have been A heroine. Nothing about her being THE main heroine and nothing about Shoko at all.
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>>100124753
Only Haruto and L-Elf were main characters.
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>>100124741

She didn't say friends though.
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>>100124772
I think nakama can be translated as clasmate in that context, it'snot like every language has a 1:1 word-ratio with another language.
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>>100124896
Main characters plus main girls.
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>>100124863
>>100124886

wrong, they said that "the heroine was Akira, not Shoko"
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>>100124846
Yeah but she was talking about the "friends" who died during that attack, people which L-Elf probably barely knew, and most definitely didn't consider nakama, seeing as how at the time he didn't have that kind of relationship with the others.
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>>100124965
You're making this more complicated than it needs to be. I specified the difference because in the context of this discussion, translating nakama as "classmate" implies that L-elf is excluded from the possibilities, an exclusion that was not implied in the actual dialogue in the show.
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>>100125056
She told that two centuries later to a child.
You are expecting too much unnecessary accuracy.
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>>100125304
Except the exclusion WAS implied, the people who died on that battle WEREN'T his nakama, in ANY sense of the word, the people who died then were meaningless to him.
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NEVER FORGET

YOU COULD HAVE CHOSEN LORD SATOMI, BUT YOU CHOOSE SHOKO

FUCK YOU ALL Shokofags, I seriously hope you stub your toe tomorrow.
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>>100125313
It may be unnecessary accuracy, but the way she phrased it, in a rather specific way, suggests accuracy. She could just have said "Many people died then."
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>>100125665

The ones she's talking about dying were probably the pilots, she said in the battle for Module 77. The random kids weren't really what one would call comrades, they were just regular citizens.
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>>100125685
Satomi would throw those bakemono under the bus too, just like he did to Akira when they were younger. What a faggot.
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>>100125685

It's questionable how Satomi would have dealt with things, if he didn't go to Earth he wouldn't have known about the Phantom either and wouldn't have been given all of the development he got.
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>>100125836
Nope, she referred specifically to the battle just before they got to the moon, if you want you can re-watch that episode.
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>>100124385
The show would have been so much better if Saki was chasing after Shoko instead of Haruto.
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>>100125665
Rewatch the scene. She didn't specify that it referred to the events of episode 12, it was just in general. And the Founder could very well be Haruto instead, not L-elf. But the point is that there's a big difference between "classmate" and "comrade". And the dialogue did not explicitly state classmate.
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>>100126027
I miss the
>Lesbian attention whore
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>>100124886

https://soundcloud.com/eushully_anon/vvv_bd1_t2

minute 1:15

I think the context is clear

They talk about how the heroine changed from Shoko to Akira and how things would be different

They think that Haruto was supposed to discover Akira, not Shoko
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>>100126084
I did, just now actually, she reffered to that specific battle.
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>>100126084
There's also the fact that Haruto isn't the founder, conceptualizing and founding are two very different things. Nakama implies an attachment, something L-Elf did not have with any of those who died then,
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>>100126320

Maybe when Saki said Founder she meant it in the plural sense?
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>>100126230
Anon, you've already expressed your reliance on subs.
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>>100126443
I think it's Haruto
her pendant had a glint when she mentioned "founder"
and I think the biggest hint is Saki mentioning that the founder was their progenitor. In Kamitsuki terms that can only mean Haruto or Marie
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>>100126473
Then prove otherwise, oh you wapanese speaking anon.
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>>100126719
>progenitor

Now that's a bit tricky since that person should either be Pino or Dr. Tokishima if she's talking about the Kamitsuki, now progenitor could also be referring to the royal line since she's talking about the Empire's founding.
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>>100126159
This just makes it sound like they couldn't decide between Shoko or Akira as the heroine and ultimately went with Shoko. Not that Akira originally had the role.
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>>100126910

I'd say it's Haruto or L-Elf since Saki was talking about the Galactic Empire and not NewJior
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Did Nanami have any purpose besides coming up with the bright idea that Shoko should have had herself?
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>>100126719
When did she say the founder was their progenitor? Not challenging you, genuine question.
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>>100127277
She was responsible for the election in episode 10.
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>>100126719
Maybe when she mentioned "the first of us" she was referring to the first Kamitsuki that saw it as a blessing.
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>>100127401
She was responsible for my erection in every episode she appears
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>>100127348

"shiso" is a word with several contexts
see

>>100127276
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>>100127513
But did anybody actually sub it as the founder being their progenitor? I don't remember either Crunchyroll or gg doing so.
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>>100127445
That means she did not mean Haruto "MUH CURSE" Tokishima.
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始祖 【しそ】 Shiso
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>>100127621

look at >>100127276 (this is an image)

and>>100127733
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>>100127277
The best part is that's the first thing Shoko tried and it failed completely because Haruto refused to be honest with her even at the end.
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>>100127796
I know, again, did anybody actually sub it as the founder being their progenitor? I ask because if no one did then that means the context wasn't implying progenitor.
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>>100126719
>>100127445
'The first of us' line should be taken with a grain of salt. The dialogue mentioned shiso, which can be translated in various ways including as 'founder', and it was then followed by the English loanword 'founder'. The English subs were working around that repetition.
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>>100127445
She did not say "the first of us" she said "at first, we saw it as a curse"
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>>100128003
That anon was referring to this scene. But >>100127985
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>>100128003
Or very probably I don't know what specific line you're talking about.
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>>100128146
Oh ok. Sometimes I think we're arguing over pointless stuff, pointless due to the fact that the writing is shit is many parts.
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>>100128146

It's the "first of us" that's confusing, she basically says "our shiso/founder". They both mean basically the same thing but it was tricky for them to sub it. She's talking about the founder of the Empire, it doesn't seem to be related to the Kamitsuki at all.
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>>100126159
So that's might be why shoko characterization was so thin and she got virually no development at all in S2. She was conceptualized to be a fodder character no need of further development given to Saki and Akira.
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>>100128755
At least with Saki and Akira they still had decent development and stuck to it. What they did with Shoko made no sense and went against everything they established about her in S1. It really feels like they just didn't think this far ahead and the whole bakemono betrayal was a last minute change with no time to develop properly.
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>>100128755
>>100130111
Except the level of development with saki and shoko is pretty much the same, shoko's path was the path of becoming a leader and having to face the consequences, saki was just from being a selfish bitch to being a not so selfish bitch who fell in love with the man who mindlessly raped her.
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>>100132291
In any case saki's entire development revolved around haruto, shoko's scarcely seen development (in season 2 for the most part) was a gradual thing that was nurtured by L-Elf. Arguably the character with most character development is either Akira or A-Drei.
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>>100125685
>Shokofags, I seriously hope you stub your toe tomorrow.

That was uncalled for. I have enough to deal with just trying to cope with the disappointment of the last 4 episodes.
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>>100132435
What development did A-Drei get?

>My friend shot me in the eye! The only explanation I can come to with the information I have is he's a traitor!
>Finds out that bodystealing Space Vampires exist
>My friend didn't shoot me in the eye! He was possessed with the bakemonos!
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>>100133807
That coupled with his revolutionary tendencies was still more development than either of those 2.
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>>100133807
You forgot about the things A-drei did while with Saki!K-zwolf. That he's not just an ERUERUFU-ing yan-homo but also a professional soldier. Granted, it is shared with L-elf's development though.
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I just marathoned this and I feel like Saki is one of the few idol heroines done right.
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>>100135053
Why? I felt the one thing that truly stood out about her as an idol was that manager thin, and that only lasted one episode, they promptly forgot about it afterwards. She could have not been an idol and it wouldn't make a difference.
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>>100135312
>manager thing
>lasted one episode

Did they even talk about her manager in the anime?
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>>100135312
She has her goal to regain her fame, which lead her to doing heroic things in spite of her selfishness. Her dancing background which was compatible with her robot's air-stepping. Unlike many mech idols who shrink away in combat Saki is not only at the forefront but doing useful things there. She made decent use of her social skills and not just for backstabbing. She doesn't randomly sing in the middle of a warzone, but she uses her songs to garner aid and support. Just a few little things here and there.
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>>100136337
That whole fame thing lasted like 1-3 episodes. She used like 1-2 songs. Her social skills are pretty much negligible and/or barely relevant for 90% of the show, In fact in season 2 she barely interacts with anyone in a meaningful way, 95% of the time she was talking to either Haruto or herself. The Idol thing could have been dropped entirely and it would not have made much of a difference, save for the dancing Carmilla, and even that could have been asspulled without the whole idol thing.
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>>100136026
Only her contract termination and bullying by the other stars was shown. The shadowy woman who has scissors and the fatass man who slapped her is only shown, implying to be her parents if you go by Saki's statements earlier.

Only her side story manga explicitly described the events of her idol past.
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>>100136963
The way you worded that argument reminds me of the rumor that Akira was supposed to be the heroine and Haruto being the one who was supposed to find her.
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>>100115101
>He also proved they were secretly sucking the brains out of unsuspecting victims
Only if you watched a different show.
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>>100136963
She might have outgrown her idol fame but her fameseeking stayed central to her attitude.
>Her social skills are pretty much negligible and/or barely relevant for 90%
She stayed in cover behind enemy forces, largely unnoticed by one of their top espionage agents. She was socially adept enough to stand close to the highest ruling powers for over two centuries. Compared to most "Listen to my song!" types I thought she was done right irregardless of your apparent anti-waifu baggage.
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>>100122869
>Does the Founder (Shoko)
Stopped reading right there.
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>>100123497
>It's a monarchy
[citation needed]
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>>100138829
Not that guy, but there's: an Empire and a prince.
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>>100123581
>during the fight on the way to the moon
No, it was inside the module. Which means she could be talking about the gas attack in s1.
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>>100138757
That was thanks to her shutting the fuck up most of the time, not her "social skills". Hell, anybody bar Akira could have done that. And A-drei did not know at the time bodyjacking was a thing, so your argument is pretty hollow. And she stood close to "the highest ruling powers" (hue) because she was one of the original social circle of the kamitsukis. You are so hilariously wrong on that last point that even Akira was closer to "the highest ruling powers", and her social skills are basically nonexistent. It's not antiwaifu-ing, it's the fact that you're up-playing something so irrelevant to the character (at least on the anime) that it basically isn't there save for like 3 episodes.
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>>100138757
And yet again, that fame seeking thing lasted like 2 episodes, re-watch the series (you clearly need to) most of the time she fought, she fought to protect her comrades or herself, she was a serious fighter most of the time, she wasn't seeking attention or thrills anymore, she was fighting to defend her country and its citizens.
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>>100138894
Which happened not ON the moon, but ON THEIR WAY to the moon, seriously it was the last battle before they got there.
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>>100125992
>she referred specifically to the battle just before they got to the moon
No she didn't but feel free to post the exact phrase she used if you're so sure about that.
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>>100126320
She could be talking about people like Jew and Thunder which L-elf worked with. They were his nakama in the context of battle.
I think the founder is Haruto though.
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>>100139177
>Hell, anybody bar Akira could have done that.
"Where did you see the intruders K-zwolf?"
"CALL ME THUNDAH-GA!"

and with that I leave you to your rage, anon.
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>>100139534
kek that argument is pointless, but sure I'll entertain you.
>anybody bar Akira and/or Thundah
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>>100127985
Throwing my two cents in here, I think she says "our ancestor, the founder" which is hinting at Haruto as he's the first of them to become a kamitsuki.
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>>100139676
Please no bully.
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>>100139676
Which leaves Haruto and his spaghetti and whatsisface who was too valuable as the tank.
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>>100139534
the bait isn't even hooked
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>>100139825
More than capable.
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>>100139534
>>100139676
>>100139825
If we go by the Drama CD,
"Where did you see the intruders K-zwolf?"
"You have to pay me first."

Haruto, well, he hasn't shown to be doing well under pressure. At least, Saki called him when she can't find Haruto back in Episode 13.
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>>100136337
Don't forget when L-elf chose her to do the undercover job most likely because she had been an actress.
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>>100139943
I think L-elf concluded that she was capable of being a guy without arousing suspicion when she first jacked Haruto rather than her being an actress background.
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>>100139775
Could be, however, I disagree, the I see it, when they talk about the originator, founder etc. they're referring to the Empire, not the Kamitsukis, and then when they mention the Founder, it is more of a title as opposed to being redundant.
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>>100139775
See >>100128146

I think the anon was saying how both "the first of us" and "the founder" is basically the same thing (and could be used interchangeably).
So the founder most likely refers to the founder of the Empire.
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>>100139775
Haruto isn't anyone's ancestor. Unless Saki really was pregnant.
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>>100138883
Empire does not equal to monarchy.
And the words used in prince don't imply he's a monarchic prince.
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>>100140040
She was never pregnant, anon, let it go.
If she was they would have at least shown a little kid during the wedding.
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>>100139939
The drama CD was comedic and it's dumb to assume they would act the same way in a serious situation. Same goes for Thunder.

Haruto would definitely fuck it up though, yeah.
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>>100139939
Going by the drama CD then, the whole of new JIOR are even more retarded. In any case, as was shown, being in that position was more about no talking at all or stating the obvious, than having any social skills.
"Oh k-zwolf, quite the charmer as always. I see you're as sociable as ever."
Anyways the other guy is just trolling at this point, seeing as how he has failed to even attempt to refute any of my previous statements.
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>>100108497
Cain.
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>>100140164
>Haruto would definitely fuck it up though, yeah.
Perhaps, perhaps not. That consisted solely of body jacking someone (not necessarily a boy, that was chance), and then going "lookie! Over there!"
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>>100140357
Considering the first thing Haruto did in L-elf's body was to assure he had no place to go back to, I'd say it's pretty much confirmed he'd fuck up the entire thing.
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>>100140188
The only other point you made was that she was part of the inner circle only because she was immortal, and yet she already does a better PR job than the Magius who had been at it for millennia. It's implied that the other students have been turned immortal and Saki has still kept her status.
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>>100140357
Haruto is worse than Satomi under pressure and has worse social skills than Akira. You can bet he'd find a way to screw it up.
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>>100140624
>You can bet he'd find a way to screw it up.
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>>100140624
>Haruto is worse than Satomi under pressure and has worse social skills than Akira.
While he is shit at both, that's stretching it, especially the second part.
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>>100140581
>It's implied that the other students have been turned immortal and Saki has still kept her status.
I'm going to need some evidence for these implications.
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>>100140581
>Saki
>PR

When?
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>>100140682
I wouldn't have it any other way. It would be boring if Haruto followed everything to the letter.
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>>100140842
I wonder what L-elf smelled like when he was in that suit.
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>>100140581
What the fuck are you talking about? You're comparing her job as PR to the one... the... Magius... did? Huh? Saki... status?
Also I made points on:
>the lack of necessity of social skills as k-zwolf
>her "fooling A-Drei through her "espionage skills" (HARHAR)
>her being close to the prince due to her social skills
You have bothered to address any of those arguments, even when you did reply to this post here -> >>100139177
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>>100140993
Bags of milky coins
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>>100139943

Think he picked her because her VVV wasn't going to be much help in taking down the Blumes, Akira's role was explained.
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>>100141021
>You haven't bothered to address any of those arguments
FTFY
drop it anon, the other guy is pretty much just shitposting at this point
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>>100140993
Haruto's deodorant and 100 year old Dorssian fug.
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>>100139943
Did he explicitly say that?
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>>100141222
>L-elf chose her to do the undercover job most likely because she had been an actress
>most likely
It's an assumption.
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>>100140993

Since those were 100 year old space suits, very stale.
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>>100140768
It was the whole point of finding a place for Kamitsuki to coexist. Nobody is going to make a country just for the two remaining Kamitsuki. Then there is Shoko and the blonde dude who obviously became immortal. Since Saki still her memories left they obviously kept a large rotation of pilots and turned anyone else who was willing to turn.

>>100140798
Module 77 is left as a monument and not as a crater against monster schoolchildren. Compare that to the Council who lost everything as soon as they were outed.
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>>100141222
I think Saki has the most flexibility when jacking. If L-elf found the only bodies for the Kamitsuki to possess would be girls, then any of the boys would have trouble pretending to be one. Saki has shown that she can pass of as a guy when she jacked Haruto.

I guess it's just L-elf covering all possible scenarios.
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>>100140993
Like a 100-year-old can of filth, failure, and bitter tears. A-drei probably made him shower before putting on the uniform. For professional reasons of course.
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>>100140842
Boring is still better than straight shit. There is nothing fun about watching Haruto's incompetence constantly fuck everything up.
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>>100140581
wait, wait... so the magius had been attempting to be a part of the nonexistent (yet) empire for centuries??? and they were outplayed by saki??? so the way they constantly tried to destroy everyone who had to do anything with the future empire was just a PR stunt to get on their good side???? :0000
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>>100140581
>and yet she already does a better PR job than the Magius
wut.
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>>100141367
>Module 77 is left as a monument and not as a crater against monster schoolchildren. Compare that to the Council who lost everything as soon as they were outed.

This is neither PR nor is there any reason at all to believe it was Saki's idea. Are you seriously retarded?
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>>100141403
I think it's very entertaining watching him screw L-elf's perfect, simple and infallible plans so spectacularly.
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>>100141367
Those Kamitsuki will live after so many generations while their human friends live out their lives. The fact that they live together peacefully is enough to show their coexistence.

Since you mentioned the other students were implied to turn into Kamitsuki, how come we didn't see them or have them mentioned?
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>>100141367
Oh god, are you for real?
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>>100141371

He also knew they were going to be jacking children, having girls jack them is probably smarter.
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>>100141426
Wow.
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>>100141578
Not really children per se. I mean, X-eins and H-neun aren't that much of a kid when they joined the Karlstein agency.
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>>100141383

He probably borrowed one of A-Drei's uniforms since they're about the same size, he still got its sleeve covered in blood.
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>>100141367
Ok, I think you didn't understand what >>100140768 asked, he was just wondering what the hell you meant by saki's status.
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>>100141578
Why?
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>>100141403
>Hating fun.
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>>100141651

A-Drei, L-Elf, X-Eins, and H-Neun all joined when they were 7. The latter two joined 12 years prior and were 19 during the current time.
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>>100141777

Imagine Thunder in K-zwolf's body and dealing with A-Drei (CPR included).
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>>100141578
>>100141371
>I think Saki has the most flexibility when jacking.

Man this whole jacking thing is slowly turning hilarious.
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L-Elf x Shoko confirmed.
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>>100141021
>>the lack of necessity of social skills as k-zwolf
>>her "fooling A-Drei through her "espionage skills" (HARHAR)
She got A-Drei to like her. She got a hardened assassin to care about some random disposable maggot going through boot camp. Even though he had suspicions about her intel she played it just enough for him to get tangled up in part of the trap. The prince thing has been addressed.
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>>100141371
Could be, but it's pure speculah considering L-Elf never knew about that incident.
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>>100141924

A-Drei is a naive softy.
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>>100141924
>care about some random disposable maggot going through boot camp.
A-drei is a gentleman, of course he's going to care about kids going through the same experiences that he was. He most likely wants them to all live as long as they can.
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>>100141924
He already knew k-zwolf, he probably like him already.>>100141924
>The prince thing has been addressed.
rather stupidly and incoherently I might add.
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>>100141944

He knew, he was watching her the entire time.
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>>100141924
Again, Akira is as close or closer and she has NO social skills.
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>>100141876
The whole jacking thing is totally underused (or even under utilized) in the series. You should've listened to Drama CD on how chaotic it could be.
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>>100142067
>L-elf: Rukino Saki pls
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>>100141865
I don't see why it makes a difference if it's a girl. And it's not like L-elf chose her because he knew she would need CPR from the enemy.
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Oh yeah I totally forgot, I stand corrected.
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>>100141865
I know VVV characters are shit (Thunder especially), but you're acting like they're completely one dimensional.
He dealt with jacking the guard in episode 14 with a degree of competency Just because he goofs around when he's with friends doesn't mean he can't be professional when the situation calls for it.
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>>100141924
We're talking about A-drei here. You know, the guy who forgives L-elf after shooting his eye and sleeping with the enemy.
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>>100142067
Do you think he has cameras installed in all the pilots' rooms?
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>>100142241
Try clothes and all their accessories.
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>>100142036
>rather stupidly and incoherently I might add.
Ignoring your kneejerk nitpicking I don't see anything wrong with it.
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>>100142166
I thought it was Jewbro who did the talking and Thunder was just standing there.

But, yeah, he has shown to be professional when the situation call for it like adapting to the lack of Haruto not getting into the robot and abandoning the hacking plan when Cain made a move against the shuttle.

>>100142241
Probably. He might've also blackmailed Akira or can access stuff as shown when he lowered Haruto and Saki in Hito to the pits of the other VVV.
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>>100142241

If he didn't he probably had them in front of their doors. He's just as bad as Akira when it comes to spying on people through the security cameras, in this case though he was viewing Saki as his lab rat so of course he'd watch everything she'd do.
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>>100142182
Only after uncovering that his commander is a monster and after half his group has been killed off.
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>>100142307
LOL puhlease, if anything you've got more than half the people lurking to respond to you asking what the fuck you're rambling about. Also, you still have failed to address the fact that Akira has no social skills and is as close or closer to the prince.
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>>100142446
So you didn't watch the show? Okay.
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>can't report and ignore
As expected of a Sakifag thread.
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>>100142307
Here, your proudest moment: >The only other point you made was that she was part of the inner circle only because she was immortal, and yet she already does a better PR job than the Magius who had been at it for millennia. It's implied that the other students have been turned immortal and Saki has still kept her status.
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>>100142446

He was prepared to forgive L-Elf back in episode 7 and probably would have if Haruto didn't pop up.
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>>100141924
>She got a hardened assassin to care about some random disposable maggot going through boot camp.
That had less to do with her capabilities and more to do with the personality of the specific soldier she was with.
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>>100142601
>can't even greentext properly
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>100142468
Akira's immortal brother is obviously still taking care of her and someone who could control the computer systems of an entire country is worth keeping in your pocket.
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>>100142601
>and yet she already does a better PR job than the Magius who had been at it for millennia. It's implied that the other students have been turned immortal and Saki has still kept her status.
did we watch the same show?
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>>100142699
Here, your proudest moment:
>The only other point you made was that she was part of the inner circle only because she was immortal, and yet she already does a better PR job than the Magius who had been at it for millennia. It's implied that the other students have been turned immortal and Saki has still kept her status.
There, that wasn't hard. Are you really this autistic? Are you ever gonna man up and stop shitposting and address every single hurdle everybody has thrown at your flawed and incoherent logic?
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So this is a bait general? Time to work on that backlog.
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>>100142468
>Akira has no social skills and is as close or closer to the prince.

It's 200 years in the future. People change and even before the timeskip she'd already started to open up more and be more social.
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>>100142713
face it, the kamitsukis are a tightly knit group. there's no merit why any of them are close to each other.
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>>100142857
I wasn't the one you were replying to, I was just addressing how new you are and why you should stop posting.
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>>100142910
I think there's a strong case for her still being antisocial, that kind of stuff hardly changes, and you're only SPECULATING otherwise because it fits like a glove, but all the evidence points otherwise.
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>>100142960
>how new you are and why you should stop posting.
Just because I forgot to press enter? Something I corrected within minutes? Go back to
>>>/b/
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>>100143110
>thinks the only way you can greentext is on a new line
Like I said, you're only embarrassing yourself.
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>>100142601
I said that Saki was still an important political figure after two centuries.
You countered that it was only because she was immortal.
I returned that other students became immortal too and Saki is still prominent.
If you can't understand something as simple as that then you've got problems.
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>>100143199
Do it within the same line then, I used to be able to but the way I do it no longer works. But seriously, are you only here to point out how to/not to greentext? Reported.
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>>100097045
I miss first season Saki.
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I just noticed this frame after so many months. It looks cool.
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>>100143220
Except it's she's not a political figure, a nanny is not a political figure.
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>>100143387
Nanny's don't fight border incursions.
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>>100143290
No, I'm trying to help you. Apparently you don't know the rules either. >Replying to a thread stating that you've reported or saged it, or another post, is also disallowed—please do not announce your reports or sages.
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>>100143318
Which one? I like jumping-from-the-helicopter-just-because Saki the best.
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>>100143482

Maybe being a nanny is her day job?
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>>100143520
Well that went well, it does look like they changed the code again.
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>>100143040
She opened up to Shoko. Made friends with Marie. Was fine with putting herself in danger to help others. She even waved to the nerds when she passed them by. She gradually made progress as the series went on and by the end she was even able to attend the wedding without hiding her face.

There's no sense in thinking she still has no social skills in the future and only proves you missed all of her character development.
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>>100143482
Political figures don't, as well, unless you're a poster boy. Besides, she does it purely owing to the fact that she's a kamitsuki, ot everyone can do that, and she certainly wouldn't let anyone else touch carmilla, not out of selfishness, but out of loyalty (?).
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>>100098275
>>100098225
>Calling it rape
Stop.
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>>100143520
>>100143600
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh god you really are something.
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>>100142857
I missed this post but damn you are this mad.
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SHOKO A BEST
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>>100143607
But one way ot the other, it's still speculation, besides she's not the type to sweet-talk into things, she wouldn't be fit for a political figure.
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>>100143723
It was, the fact that she enjoyed it halfway-through does not change that. You have to think what kind of person would enjoy being raped.
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>>100143745
At first, now it's more of amusement at the fact that you gave up long ago and are merely baiting.
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>>100143748
Well of course she is.
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>>100143682
>Political figures don't
In Monarchies yes they do.
She has too much of her memories for pilots not to have been rotated out and it would be militarily impractical to leave one of your three remaining combat assets aside for sentimentalism. L-Elf wouldn't have stood for that nonsense.
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>>100144143
Memory loss is only a problem for retards like Haruto who don't replenish their runes when necessary and end up breaking their limiter. It's also something only Hito does making it irrelevant to Saki.
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>>100144143
>Monarchies
Except it isn't a monarchy, it's an empire. And in most monarchies royalty rarely ventured to the frontlines. A King doesn't just fight, what if he gets killed? It isn't a simple matter, he must stay alive to continue ruling, battle won or not, a King's life is not something you just nonchalantly endangered. lrn2history.
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>>100144143
>it would be militarily impractical to leave one of your three remaining combat assets aside for sentimentalism.
Agreed there. So you see she probably doesn't have any political relevance, and anything show so far does not suggest otherwise.
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>>100144521
>A King doesn't just fight
Lelouch begs to differ.
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>>100144143
>In Monarchies yes they do.
this is so wrong, it happened VERY rarely.
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>>100144143
>She has too much of her memories
Saki doesn't pilot Hito, the Rave unit that drains runes to fuel all of the VVVs. Whether they found a way around memory loss or not, Saki wouldn't be a victim of it unless she starts piloting Hito.
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>>100144521

Kings went out to battle in the old days, there's many who died in battle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Monarchs_killed_in_action
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>>100144638
>Using animu to debate RL
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>>100144521
Kings that actually founded something and were cherished by their people died in the frontlines.
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>>100144770
>using RL to debate animu
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>>100144770
>using RL to debate animu
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>>100144827
>>100144836
In this particular instance, we're debating monarchies, so yeah.
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>>100143531
Jumping from Helicopter Saki is good. Aloof, cold, "I hate adults" saki is good too. Self centered, fun loving attention whore who hates humans and wants power is also good, though sadly only lasts one episode.
>I want Haruto to notice me
Saki isn't as good.
>I was glad you were forgetting Shoko
Saki was just painful.
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>>100144772
Name 5 examples, and I shall name 50 cherished monarchs who never went to the frontlines in times of war.
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>>100144946
All I read is implications of L-elf and Saki sitting on their asses because their history books said so, so yeah, it's not a debate but misconceptions of RL monarchies. We might as well discuss anime ones instead.
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>>100144953
My nigga.
I thought I was the only one who felt that way about her.
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>>100144999

See >>100144769, 132 in total there.
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>>100144999
See >>100144769
Your turn.
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>>100144416
Haruto lost memories even when his limiter was working. It wasn't shown or implied that feeding on someone else would protect your memories.

>>100144521
>Except it isn't a monarchy, it's an empire.
You're quibbling here and most title holders had to defend their lands, that was why they were given political titles in the first place.

>>100144611
>Knights and feudal lords aren't politically relevant
Come on now.
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>>100145114
That's 132 against thousands, unfortunately there isn't a single place where I an find a list of all killed in "inaction" but I will start compiling a list right now.
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>>100144752
I don't remember this in the show. Source?
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>>100145297
Episode 13. Haruto ran out of runes so all the other raves stopped functioning.
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>>100145205
Still most kings didn't dare venture to a battlefield, about 132 so far, it seems.
>Knights and feudal lords aren't politically relevant
You're really pushing it if you think there are feudal lords and knights (in the archaic sense of the word, not the honorary stuff that they give out these days) in a modern empire, much less an intergalactic empire.
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>>100145219

Even in current time the British prince Harry went off to war, Royals on the battlefield is quite common.
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>>100144999
Nice handicap. Try naming 50 cherished monarchs who were in power for more than 7 years and never went to the frontlines up to the 13th century.
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>>100145095
You aren't alone. And in general second season wasn't kind to Saki's character. Granted second season wasn't kind to anyone's character. Except Satomi and Akira.
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>>100145205
>Knights and feudal lords aren't politically relevant
I don't think that applies to VVV's Empire. Besides, the only relevance they hold in today's society is in the house of Lords, something which is egregiously unnecessary, and in whic only 92 of them have any place due to theur heritage.
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>>100145205
>Haruto lost memories even when his limiter was working.

He didn't. It was specifically mentioned in the Marie arc that she was losing memories because her limiter broke. The same would of course hold true for Haruto.
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>>100145442
And the resulting surprise was huge, precisely my point, it's atypical.
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>>100145378
In the last episode the other units were functioning even after Haruto was sucked dry so I don't think it's quite that simple. In fiction it's rare for vampiric things to be picky about which one gets to eat.
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>>100145544
>And in general second season wasn't kind to Saki's character.
At least she grew a little from all those shit experiences.

I was kind of sad that as soon as she was near Haruto again she went MUH HARUTO again. With the exception of when she went against the Kirschbaum's.
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>>100145673

They were probably still functioning since Haruto had jacked L-Elf, what Cain did seemed to affect Haruto's runes specifically.
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>>100145493
I will try, but you have to consider 2 things:
1) off the top of my head (or anyone's) it's hard,
2) does vvv take place before the 13th century or after? can't say, what with all the authoritarian and democratic governments and space travel, plus capital and socialist economies
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>>100145219
You're changing goal posts now. Your point has been invalidated since your initial claim was that most royals don't fight in the front lines by default because it's dangerous for the king. Lrn2history before making those statements or at least don't tell others to do it if you're lacking that knowledge yourself.
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>>100145778
>does vvv take place before the 13th century or after?
C'mon man, they get reception in space.
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>>100145608
He lost his memory of Shoko in the cave before his limiter started to leak.
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So after 200 years, Shoko had to have found out about the rape, right?
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>>100145673
They functioned PRECISELY because he was dried up.
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>>100145778
Nice try but you don't get to exclude the 13th century rule. We were talking about RL monarchies which covers all of them, not only modern ones.
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>>100145493
And I have to look up if they meet your standards, I'm sorry I can't just google that and find it in 2 clicks, I'm sure waiting a bit is more than understandable.
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>>100145297
Episode 13. And the diagram on this page is about how runes via Haruto are distributed by VVVI to the Mirror engine units.
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>>100145883
That's the point when it broke. Or it may have even broken earlier (like in episode 13 when he nearly ran himself to death due to lack of runes) and this is when he finally started to lose prominent memories. What Cain did only sped up the process.
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>Saki gets captured for a lengthy period of the series
>Kallen gets captured for a lengthy period of the series
Why do they do this?
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>>100145827
I said I will make an effort to counter. So don't say shit until I admit defeat or fail to respond, or someone magically conjures up a list with all kings who meet the criteria.
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>>100145918
I'm sure she was able to put two and two together once she started raping Akira on a regulr basis.
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>>100146146
Sunrise loves this shit for some reason.
Also, Saki wasn't captured for most of the time, she was just seperated from the group
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>>100145993
You've got a point there, my bad, but you have to agree, VVV probably isn't anything like those.
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>>100146179
Don't be mad at me, you brought it upon yourself.
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>>100146132
Pino said it broke during the last fight and that's when the green stuff started to leak, so he was burning through memories with or without the limiter, he just burned through them faster without it.
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>>100146184

>L-Elf stuck with an all female team and Shoko trying to rape everybody

Probably didn't take him long to start convincing the remaining students to become Kamitsuki to help alleviate his headaches.
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>>100146312
Yes I did, rather stupidly too, but you can't expect me to google "Kings from before the 13th century more than 7 year-long reign never went to battlefield" or something.
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>>100146209
True, but it's pretty much the same thing. Female lead action girl taken away from the group for a lengthy period of time where they do fuck all.
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>>100141917
Confirmed for only in your delusions.
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>>100146244
Actually I disagree, we have no information on how they live politically. This might be set in the future but they could follow the traditional monarchy system. A-drei for example, is someone I see venturing to dangerous battles after assuring a heir to the throne in case he dies in battle.
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>>100146601

A-Drei seemed like he was way too far down the line of succession to ever be King.
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>>100146538
Delusions are the only things we have to fill in the gaps.
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>>100097265
Alright
I need this picture of Saki in a wedding dress, right now
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>>100146601
Except a traditional monarchy system would collapse pretty quickly in today's world, what with having an economy that allows them the luxury of military prowess (I don't think Kamitsukis are enough at this point), that allows them to compete against their enemies, that allows them socioeconomic growth, trading and commerce options, etc. A feudal system wouldn't work today, most probably wouldn't work in VVV's world, where territories are significantly bigger (InterGALACTIC empire). You're right, we have no info, but I think it's very safe to assume they have a way more modern approach.
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>>100146697
Yes I know. I meant if he was the king in the VVV universe I imagine he'd be that kind of king, so it's hard to say if their empire is anything like the modern or traditional monarchies.
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>>100146757
L-Elf would be the last person to have feelings for Shoko. If anything Akira would be the first one to try.
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>>100146938

The only way I could see it for any girl is if he was drunk or if Shoko went into rape mode while he was sick.
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>>100147124
He'd probably fall for a girl who would save his life, just like Lieselotte.
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>>100146938
All I wanted was to see them reconcile on screen. Building up such a beautiful friendship only to tear it down so fantastically was like stomping on my heart.
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>>100146826
Thanks!
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>>100146530
Yeah, that's why I said "Sunrise loves this shit"
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>>100147229

>slips on a banana peel and a girl catches him before he hits his head
>love at first sight
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>>100145722
>I was kind of sad that as soon as she was near Haruto again she went MUH HARUTO again
Me too.

>With the exception of when she went against the Kirschbaum's.
I wish we had seen that. She was up against like 8 of them when we saw her, and next we saw her she was fighting like two of them and a bunch of Waffes.
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>>100147391
You have to include Shoko in there.
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>>100145918
Most likely. She probably wouldn't blame him though.
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>>100147385
It's a plus if she's a few hundred years old in a young body.
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>>100147396

She ran away and then after L-Elf's reveal Kriemhild called them all back.
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>>100147471
Of L-elf, Saki, and A-drei? I agree anon. Fantastic taste.
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Where my Shoko bros at
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>>100146146

I wish I knew.

>>100146444
And we thought he had his hands full before.
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>>100147539
They betrayed her and stopped being Shoko bros. Kinda fitting don't you think?
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>>100147439
And Satomi. There's tons of potential to be had with their galaxy conquering days.
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>>100147391
can someone translate this?
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>>100147539
I'm here
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>>100147612
I'll be a Shokofag until the day I die.
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>>100147524
Pls no bully. Those + pic related + Satomi + H-neun are my favorite valvraves.
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>>100147762
If only Shoko was as dedicated as you. She was a bad Haruto bro.
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>>100147471
>>100147699
お・・・おろ・・・おろ・・・・し・・・あっう
P-Please... l-let... m-me... down...
あああああああ
Aaaaaaaah
時間ない。
We don't have much time.
ねぇ(いろいろと)大丈夫?
Say, you alright (among other things)?
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>>100147839
I'm sorry, but they're dead. At least Satomi and Akira can join that OVA.
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I really don't give a damn if you guys think that i'm a stupid asshole or a delusional faggot.

I shipped them since season 1 and i'm gonna ship them until my heart stops pumping.

I'll die with my ship, and i'm sorry that some of you guys cannot be faithful to your believes, ideologies and creeds.

Forever.
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>>100147967
Don't worry mate.
They get married after the time skip.
Shoko becomes the Founder and L-Elf the Emperor.
L-Elf chooses to die of age as a human, and Shoko continues him and Haruto's legacy.

The Prince is Shoko and L-Elf's kid.
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>>100147391
>D... Dow... dow.. aaaaaaaaaa
>Hey, are you alright (in more ways than one)?
>No problem.

>>100147919
You misread it. It's 問題, not 時間.
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>>100147919
It's 問題ない. Sort of like
Saki: You're okay with this?
L-elf: No problem.
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I really don't give a damn if you guys think that i'm a stupid asshole or a delusional faggot.

I shipped them since episode 1 and I'm gonna ship them until my heart stops pumping.

I'll die with my ship, and i'm sorry that some of you guys cannot be faithful to your believes, ideologies and creeds.

Forever.
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>>100146938

>Shoko
>Last person

Not that I care about them, but didnt Okubuchi confirm in a interview that it would be pretty easy for L-Elf to fall for Shoko.

Or some dumb shit like that I dont feel like checking the archives
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>>100148905
No.
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>>100148355
How do you deal with the fact L-elf and Haruto were in love with women
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>>100106055
>>100108497
>>10010803


Is there more?
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>>100149028
They're in love with each other. They just don't know it until one of them died.
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>>100148905
Something about her unpredictability and if L-elf were to fall in love she would be a possible candidate or some shit.
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>>100149217
And it turns out L-Elf was already in love with someone else.
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>>100148072
>>100148104
>>100147919
Thats hilarious
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Never forget the 6 million students that perished on Module 77 thanks to Shoko being worst girl.
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>>100149088
>>>10010803 (Dead)

I bet that guy feels pretty silly now.
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>>100146444
>>100146184
Suddenly this image seems relevent
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=35532148
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>>100149028
>How do you deal with the fact L-elf and Haruto were in love with women
Well. I'm not a big fan of Haruto-Shoko interactions but I don't mind that pairing. Haruto and Saki as a couple bothers me a bit but I wouldn't be mad if it happened. I was curious if Haruto and Takahi would go anywhere during S1. I ship L-elf with Lieselotte. I wouldn't mind if L-elf ended up falling for Shoko at first but that changed during S2.
Tl;dr even though my OTP is Haruto and L-elf I wouldn't be frustrated if Haruto ended with Shoko or Saki and L-elf with Lieselotte.
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>>100150635
But Lieselotte is dead and so are your ship.
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They should have just made everyone gay. Have a Haruto/L-Elf/Audrey triangle and a Shoko/Akira/Saki triangle. Then in the end everybody wins and they have one big orgy.
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>Light Novel (DHM)
Ch1-4/Vol1 raw >>92523715
Ch1 Summary >>93077966 >>88985424
Ch3 Summary >>91538197
Ch4(?) Summary >>92797216 >>92069169

>Undertaker (DHM)
Intro Raw + Summary >>92688372 >>92691433
Ch1 Raw + Summary >>94180388 >>94157498 >>94167297 ; TL (incomplete) >>98250793
Ch2 Raw + Summary >>95736908 >>95753419

>Drama CD (BD + DVD extra)
CD1 Rip >>88125138 >>88125615
CD1 Summary - Dorssia student play >>88130132 >>88130507 >>92051791
CD1 Summary - Cooking time + Thunder and Inuzuka >>88132169
CD1 TL - Haruto's monologue about Shoko >>88133238
CD1 TL - Shower scene >>88812388
CD1 TL - A-drei and L-elf >>88739113
CD2 Rip >>92047692
CD2 Summary >>92051147
CD3 Rip >>95793193
CD3 Summary - Satomi, Inuzuka and L-elf >>95793482 >>95801208
CD3 Summary - L-elf and Nanami >>95793751
CD3 Summary - Satomi tidbits >>95794790
CD4 Rip >>99108053
CD4 Summary - >>99113045 + >>99113090 ; >>99115808 + >>99115888 + >>99115985 + >>99116168

>Fanbook
Raw >>94391429

>Anthology
Photo raw >>94431841
Ch4 Photo Raw+TL >>94432988
Ch5 Raw+TL >>95628966 >>95629796
Ch6 Raw+TL
>>95518991
Ch7 Raw+TL >>95523247
Ch9 >>95469216
Ch11 Raw+TL >>95572340
Ch12 Raw+TL >>95575474
Ch13 Raw+TL >>95865068
Ch14 Raw+TL >>95865472
Ch15 Photo Raw+TL >>94435111
Ch16 Raw+TL >>95625456 >>95629685

>BD + DVD booklet TLs
― Interviews ―
Vol1 - Osaka Ryota >>96177852 - Matsuo Kou >>95271634
Vol2 - Kimura Ryohei >>93935645 - Ookouchi Ichirou >>94422840
Vol3 - Tomatsu Haruka >>94465510 - Takayama Kiyohiko >>95267931
Vol4 - Ono Yuki >>96178748 - Suzuki Tatsuya >>96218959
Vol5 - raw >>96981105
― Other ―
Vol2 - Hoshino sketches >>93936667 >>93936950

>BD + DVD audio commentary
Vol1-5 >>95858188

>Special Edition Edited (Recap - raw)
I >>93838368
II >>93777363
III >>93823201
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>Manga
Ch1 (Haruto) Raw >>86696065
Ch2 (Thunder) >>98667653
Ch3 (Akira) >>95541205
Ch4 (Jewbro) >>99564640

>Dorssia manga
Ch1 Scanlation >>88493131
Ch2 Scanlation >>97454207
Ch3 Scanlation >>93300734
Ch4 Scanlation >>95997327
Ch5 Scanlation >>97297574
Ch6 Scanlation >>97679418
Vol. 1 Omake Raw >>95692932

>Saki manga
Ch1 Scanlation >>98234249
Ch2 Scanlation >>97990872
Ch3 Scanlation >>97844170
Ch4 Scanlation >>97332721
Ch5 Scanlation >>99200932
Ch6 Scanlation >>98478406
Ch7 Raw+TL >>99703482
MF folder with everything >>96350615

>4koma
Ch0(?) >>96357990
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>>100150901
10/10
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>>100150777
All the three of them will reunite in death eventually, I doubt L-elf would want to become immortal if given the chance. The way Haruto died and Lieselotte's episodes fueled my ships quite a bit so I can't complain.
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>>100150830

Haruto, L-Elf, and A-Drei were pretty much a triangle, at least from A-Drei's perspective.
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>>100151035
The only love triangle that matters. At least, to Okuchi.
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>>100150997
Can vampires breathe in space?
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>>100151369
I think you should ask Jewbro about that.
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>>100151369
Maybe.
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>>100151408
Unfortunately I have no shekels to give him.
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>>100140065
Yes, an empire has to be a monarchy and prince is a monarchic title.
Please give us counterexamples if you disagree.
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>>100151351
For it to be a triangle wouldn't Haruto have to be in love with Audrey?
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>>100152927
Love triangle is more like a chevron: two people running after a single target whom may or may not love back one of them.
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>>100152905
Roman Empire isn't considered a true monarchy.
You're talking about the english word. In japanese they call him by 皇子 which is literally son of the emperor.
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I miss AFURERU NAMIDA
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I miss OH HOHOHOHOHOHO HO
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I miss MIJIKAI YUME WO KASANETE
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>BOKU JANAI isn't the first to be missed
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oh god
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Any word from the novel translator?
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I want to cum all over L-elf's ahoge.
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I want to cum all over L-elf's right hand.
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>>100160633
So, on Haruto?
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>>100160716
That works too.
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>>100145918

She won't remember much if she loses memories so it doesn't matter.
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>>100097045
I want a spinoff 200 years later with her as MC.
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>>100149088

If you mean the drawings then yeah. I don't have them but they were posted before.
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Buddy Complex is actually pretty decent so far, nothing near a VVV wild ride but worth checking out while waiting for translations here. MC is not Haruto by any means for those who were frustrated by Haruto's character.
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>>100162069
I couldn't stop thinking about VVV when Aoba started piloting, the whole magically getting controls and information sequence eye thing. Dio sounds like shit but I'm enjoying it. Too bad the stream thread was deader than Thunda.
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>>100162202
>Dio sounds like shit

Why? What's wrong with Dio?
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>>100162270
It's the seiyuu. He sounds good when he's piloting but when he gets out and talks more casually, his tone really pisses me off. He sounds like his nose is stuffed or something.
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>>100153633
The Roman Empire of the first Roman emperors was a glorified military dictatorship, but for most of its history it was a (true) monarchy.

>In japanese they call him by 皇子 which is literally son of the emperor

And he is one of the highest raking members of their society, ergo a prince.
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>>100162394
Is he new? I didn't recognize his name or voice sound from anywhere. Dio seems a little too serious and stick up the arse at this point, but we'll see. Definitely no ham eggs coming out of his mouth. Missed the live thread, maybe as things pick up it will get livelier, but probably nothing like VVV live threads just because no twists really. Nice Russian version of "Blitzendegen" salute and less homo than VVV despite the "nice coupling."
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>>100162202
Yes, I was expecting rune injections and Pino to pop out at that scene, it looked just like VVV's things coming out of the pilot's chair.
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>>100162796
I think he's new, I don't recognize his voice either. Live thread didn't even get 200 replies so you didn't miss much but I hope it gets a bit livelier in there as new episodes air. I thought the coupling scene was homo as fuck, there was a proposal and everything man. Sasuga Sunrise
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>there's nothing to discuss so we talk about BC instead
I'm not against it.
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>>100147740
>>100147762
>>100147967
>>100148070
Thank you Shokobros. You have inspired me by your dedication.True tomodachi never abandon Shokoshoko even though the whole world is against her
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New thread when?
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>>100163028
>>100162796
How couldn't you?

He is Ichika from IS, Soul Eater, Kagura from Aqualion, and Banagher from Unicorn
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We should make a OC VVV thread so that everyone would be too busy trying to draw, scan, translate and whatever instead of killing each other over nitpicking.
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>>100162141

Just terrible.

Made me check the /m/ threads. Why do those look more active than the ones we had here all week?
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>>100164491
Because /a/ is more busy with new stuff.
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>>100164534

Maybe we should move our generals there.
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>>100164566
Isn't that what basically happened?
We don't need a daily VVV general thread on /a/.
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>>100164491
>>100164534
>>100164566
/m/ is starting to shit on VVV again. The usual bickering.
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>>100164628

I don't visit /m/ so I wouldn't know. The only thing I keep reading how they always derail into rape debates, I didn't know everyone just moved there.
Now I'm wondering if I missed any translation or something important.
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>>100164628
>We don't need a daily VVV general thread on /a/
I wonder about that. This is the second thread that goes past the bump limit in the last 2 or 3 days.
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>>100164743
Nothing important was missed. Many /m/ are cross-boarding and they prefer to talk to us instead of their shitposters.
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>>100164743
Nothing important happened.
Otherwise, there would be more VVV threads on /a/.

/m/ has moved on from the rape debates to VVV quality debates.
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>>100164807
This is the previous one: http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/100011051
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>>100164863

And /a/ was left with nothing. If all we have left is bump threads with pixiv dumps and bait then we should take everything to /m/, like the master post stuff. It will get more discussion in there.



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